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20100412 03:31:35< shadowmaster> hm, my test apache2 instance is taking too long to answer reequests
20100412 03:39:21< shadowmaster> oookay, compiz working here
20100412 03:39:37< shadowmaster> it feels smooth
20100412 03:39:50< Espreon> Cool.
20100412 03:40:01< shadowmaster> "Running the configuration tool failed."
20100412 03:40:05< shadowmaster> oh, for the love of-
20100412 03:40:07< Espreon> Awww...
20100412 03:40:39< shadowmaster> it works from the apps menu though
20100412 03:40:55< Espreon> "ccsm"... is awesome...
20100412 03:46:08< shadowmaster> Espreon: and you have any idea how to use multiple virtual desktops with it?
20100412 03:46:26< Espreon> Ctrl + Alt -> or -<
20100412 03:46:27< shadowmaster> because, what the fuck do I want a desktop cube for IF I HAVE NO DESKTOPS TO DISPLAY ON THE SIDES!
20100412 03:46:29< Espreon> *<-
20100412 03:46:46< Espreon> Did that do anything?
20100412 03:46:48< shadowmaster> Espreon: plasma says I've got only 1 desktop
20100412 03:46:54< shadowmaster> and your hotkeys did nothing
20100412 03:47:03< Espreon> Try Super + ->
20100412 03:47:08< shadowmaster> except write "C" and "D" to this terminal for whatever reason
20100412 03:47:11< shadowmaster> who the hell is Super?
20100412 03:47:16< Espreon> Windows key.
20100412 03:47:20< shadowmaster> nothing
20100412 03:47:26< Espreon> Ctrl + Super + ->
20100412 03:47:29< shadowmaster> tell me how to configure virtual desktops :|
20100412 03:47:36< shadowmaster> no that doesn't work either
20100412 03:47:40< Espreon> Plasma and Compiz don't play nicely.
20100412 03:47:54< Espreon> Go into ccsm and make sure Rotate Cube is enabled.
20100412 03:48:06< shadowmaster> okay, now what?
20100412 03:48:16< Espreon> Try those key combos again.
20100412 03:48:21< shadowmaster> they don't work
20100412 03:48:28< Espreon> Then see what they are.
20100412 03:48:36< shadowmaster> um, how?
20100412 03:48:40< Espreon> Go into Rotate Cube... and... yeah...
20100412 03:48:59< shadowmaster> "<control><alt>Button1"
20100412 03:49:05< shadowmaster> whatever that means
20100412 03:49:22< Espreon> That means: "Hold Ctrl and Alt and left-click"
20100412 03:49:32< Espreon> ... then just play around with the cursor.
20100412 03:50:00< shadowmaster> okay, nice
20100412 03:50:08< shadowmaster> the problem is, I don't see a cube. I see a PLANE
20100412 03:50:21< shadowmaster> I'm pretty sure this has to do with having 1 virtual desktop
20100412 03:50:23< Espreon> Lemme think.
20100412 03:50:38< Espreon> Go to the initial view in CCSM.
20100412 03:50:49< Espreon> Look for general configuration.
20100412 03:50:56< Espreon> ... and look for something about virtual desktops in there.
20100412 03:51:10< Espreon> If it is not present, look in the cube plugins' configuration...
20100412 03:51:12< shadowmaster> good, I found it.
20100412 03:51:17< shadowmaster> it's locked at 1 for some reason
20100412 03:51:40< Espreon> Try editing the config files.
20100412 03:51:47< Espreon> Look in ~/.config/something
20100412 03:52:08< shadowmaster> should I try destroying a locked file with a nuke as well?
20100412 03:52:11< Espreon> Sorry, I really can't help, as my Linux lappy is at a repair shop... getting the power jack and the fans fixed.
20100412 03:52:19< shadowmaster> :C
20100412 03:52:57< shadowmaster> anyway, it feels much faster at rendering than Kwin and that is good
20100412 03:53:05< Espreon> :)
20100412 03:53:39< shadowmaster> I might stick to Kwin though since I don't see an easy way to disable compositing on the fly
20100412 03:54:06< Espreon> I am sure that Compiz 0.9 will have that feature.
20100412 03:54:07< shadowmaster> Kwin has this neat keyboard shortcut so I can avoid flickering with frogatto, Google Earth and pretty much any other OpenGL client
20100412 03:54:10< Espreon> ... so... yeahz...
20100412 03:54:12< shadowmaster> 0.8.4 here
20100412 03:54:24 * shadowmaster drops connection
20100412 03:54:37< Espreon> It will take at least one hundred years for 0.9 to come out...
20100412 03:55:41< Espreon> ... just like it will take forever for the PS∞ to come out...
20100412 03:55:49< Espreon> ... but it will be AWESOME...
20100412 03:56:04< shadowmaster> or DNF :/
20100412 03:56:22< shadowmaster> or Blackmore, or codename S2
20100412 03:56:26< Espreon> ...
20100412 03:58:01< shadowmaster> (yes, I actually have a project codenamed S2. With a superscript '2' to be specific)
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20100412 05:35:06<+CIA-9> wesnoth-umc-dev: faabumc * r6920 /trunk/Nightmares_of_Meloen/dist/VERSION: NoM: version 0.25.1
20100412 05:36:46<+CIA-9> wesnoth-umc-dev: faabumc * r6921 /tags/trunk/Nightmares_of_Meloen/0.25.1/: Nom: tag version 0.25.1
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20100412 05:37:46<+CIA-9> wesnoth-umc-dev: faabumc * r6922 /trunk/Nightmares_of_Meloen/dist/VERSION: NoM: version 0.25.1+svn
20100412 05:38:29< FAAB> shikadibot: dir tags
20100412 05:38:30<+shikadibot> Web interface URL to directory tags: http://wesnoth-umc-dev.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/wesnoth-umc-dev/tags
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20100412 06:22:15< un214> of all the stupid crimes
20100412 06:22:27< un214> someone made 13 counterfeit ones to put in a tip jar
20100412 06:23:12< Espreon> Well, that sux.
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20100412 11:15:37< loonycyborg> shadowmaster: I remember that I had trouble making virtual desktops work with kde+compiz.
20100412 11:16:36< loonycyborg> IIRC that was fixed by making KDE run compiz on startup, replacing already running kwin seems to screw them up.
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20100412 14:07:34< shadowmaster> well, I didn't like compiz anyway
20100412 14:08:04< shadowmaster> okay, I did, just a bit. Maybe if I wasn't using KDE and it integrated better with the desktop environment
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20100412 15:35:56< shadowmaster> "The gpsd service daemon can monitor one or more GPS devices connected [...]"
20100412 15:36:06< shadowmaster> libgps19? installed on my laptop? what the-
20100412 15:36:22< shadowmaster> ah, plasma!
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20100412 17:19:04< FAAB> shikadibot: dir /tags/Nightmares_of_Meloen
20100412 17:19:04<+shikadibot> Web interface URL to directory /tags/Nightmares_of_Meloen: http://wesnoth-umc-dev.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/wesnoth-umc-dev/tags/Nightmares_of_Meloen
20100412 17:19:41< FAAB> shikadibot: dir /tags/trunk/Nightmares_of_Meloen
20100412 17:19:41<+shikadibot> Web interface URL to directory /tags/trunk/Nightmares_of_Meloen: http://wesnoth-umc-dev.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/wesnoth-umc-dev/tags/trunk/Nightmares_of_Meloen
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20100412 20:41:32< shadowmaster> esr: around?
20100412 20:42:26< esr> Yes, what's up?
20100412 20:43:04< shadowmaster> esr: if you've never played older (or the oldest) Wesnoth versions, maybe this could be of your interest: http://shadowm.rewound.net/blog/archives/60-Wesnoth-Evolution-0.1.html
20100412 20:43:21< esr> Reading...
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20100412 20:45:14< esr> Wow.  That contrast between the 1.0 and 1.8 HttT maps is worth a thousand words.
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20100412 21:25:34< shadowmaster> esr: that's 0.1, not 1.0
20100412 21:26:14< shadowmaster> and again, pnly one of them survived Wesnoth's development (AFAICT - if someone knows whether map2 and map3 evolved further, well)
20100412 21:26:23< shadowmaster> s/CT/K/
20100412 21:58:35< esr> shadowmaster: Very nice summary.
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20100412 21:59:25< esr> I joined sometime late in 1.3, I think, so a lot of that early history is new to me.
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20100412 23:22:07 * zookeeper is annoyed at the latest insurgence of completely clueless WML newbies on the forums
20100412 23:22:22< zookeeper> somehow they seem to appear in waves
20100412 23:24:32< Espreon> Yeah...
20100412 23:26:21< Espreon> From line 341 of TSL's items.cfg: # TODO: create variable creation/destruction framework thingy so that this code duplication madness can stop ... Should I still do it? Hmmmmm...
20100412 23:27:07< zookeeper> on one hand i try to not waste time explaining stuff to them and let them figure it out themselves or drop it, but then we also have the pretty much clueless regulars too who just give them bad or plain wrong advice
20100412 23:30:16< zookeeper> meh
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20100412 23:34:59< Espreon> OK, now to add [time_area] and [replace_schedule] support to mah multifloor system...
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