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20100413 01:14:33<+CIA-9> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r6923 /trunk/The_Silver_Lands/ (scenarios/00_RPG_Utils_Test.cfg utils/rpg-utils.cfg): TSL: added [time_area] support to the multifloor system.
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20100413 02:14:30< Espreon> Meh, it looks like I'll need to use unique names in order to have [replace_schedule] support.
20100413 02:16:02 * Espreon hæts having to use unique variable names for these things...
20100413 02:16:31< Espreon> Yup, better make that variable destruction framework.
20100413 02:16:37< Espreon> ... 'cause I'm lazy!
20100413 02:16:40< shadowmaster> you'd prefer to have hashed variable names?
20100413 02:17:00< shadowmaster> e.g. $d0a9Dd0e723fc19b938710 or such
20100413 02:17:13< Espreon> I meant things such as "floor1_tod" rather than just having "mf_tod"
20100413 02:17:27< Espreon> ... I have to have the former.
20100413 02:17:29< Espreon> ... :(
20100413 02:17:59< shadowmaster> "Location: shadowmaster's location"... what the
20100413 02:18:04< shadowmaster> ...
20100413 02:18:11< Espreon> That guy's creepy...
20100413 02:18:41< shadowmaster> "I was waiting for someone to post that... I agree with someone"
20100413 02:19:05< shadowmaster> I swear to the gods that some day I'll implement my own forum software...and it'll not allow registering nicknames that can be found in an English dictionary
20100413 02:19:29< shadowmaster> or variations thereof (lolspeak, leetspeak, rot13, etc.)
20100413 02:20:37< Espreon> http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/7iNcDb3u ... What I want to have... excuse the indentation.
20100413 02:20:57< Espreon> Meh, forgot some quotes, but, this is an example.
20100413 02:21:06< Espreon> ... that will be forgotten...
20100413 02:21:12< Espreon> ... soon...
20100413 02:23:14< Espreon> shadowmaster: Is there any way for me to get something like what I want?
20100413 02:24:28< Espreon> ... exactly...
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20100413 02:59:21<+CIA-9> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r6924 /trunk/The_Silver_Lands/utils/rpg-utils.cfg: TSL: added fade effects to CHANGE_FLOOR.
20100413 03:00:36< Espreon> AI0867: Would you please look at CHANGE_FLOOR's fade effects and tell me what you think?
20100413 03:01:10< Espreon> Also, would you please review the code in rpg-utils.cfg and tell me if some of the things I am doing can be done in better ways?
20100413 03:01:39 * Espreon has a feeling that some things... yeahz...
20100413 03:12:30< Espreon> AI0867: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/saGmCn5q ... Do you know of a way that I can essentially do something like this without resorting to eccentric use of [set_variables]' [split]?
20100413 03:13:11< Espreon> ... like I do with the lore reviewer...
20100413 03:16:18< Espreon> ... well, maybe that's not eccentric, but still...
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20100413 04:02:43< Espreon> Heh, IFtU has over nine thousand downloads from teh 1.8 server.
20100413 04:19:31< Espreon> AI0867: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=421220#p421220 ... Really?
20100413 04:19:38 * Espreon points to teh runes.
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20100413 05:38:16<+CIA-9> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r6925 /trunk/The_Silver_Lands/images/attacks/ (claws-fire-elemental.png fire-blast.png): TSL: backported the fire blast icon and the fire elemental claws icon from trunk.
20100413 05:38:27<+CIA-9> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r6926 /trunk/The_Silver_Lands/scenarios/00_RPG_Utils_Test.cfg: TSL: ran wmlindent.
20100413 05:38:38<+CIA-9> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r6927 /trunk/The_Silver_Lands/images/units/elementals/ (brazier-creation-2.png brazier-creation-3.png): TSL: removed the Brazier Creation's standing animation frames as they result in a jumpy animation and are unable to be fixed without having them redrawn.
20100413 05:38:53<+CIA-9> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r6928 /trunk/The_Silver_Lands/images/units/elementals/ (windherder-attack.png windherder.png zephyr.png): TSL: imported TC'd Windherder and Zephyr sprites from PoS.
20100413 05:39:10<+CIA-9> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r6929 /trunk/The_Silver_Lands/units/elementals/ (Wind_Herder.cfg Zephyr.cfg): TSL: enabled TC for the Wind Herder and the Zephyr.
20100413 05:39:21<+CIA-9> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r6930 /trunk/The_Silver_Lands/units/elementals/ (Brazier_Creation.cfg Vine_Beast.cfg Wind_Herder.cfg): TSL: wired in some unwired elemental animations; the Wind Herder's ranged animation remains unused... for now...
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20100413 05:39:32<+CIA-9> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r6931 /trunk/The_Silver_Lands/units/elementals/ (Fire_Ghost.cfg Fire_Wisp.cfg Living_Volcano.cfg): TSL: made use of the recently-backported icons.
20100413 05:40:06< un214> I keep considering writing a new tutorial, changing my mind, and chainging my mind again
20100413 05:43:10< un214> maybe every time I consider it I should do a little work and see if something comes of it (probably not but still ...)
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20100413 06:16:06<+CIA-9> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r6932 /trunk/The_Silver_Lands/units/elementals/Vine_Tiger.cfg: TSL: fixed broken characters.
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20100413 07:24:13< FAAB> shikadibot: help
20100413 07:24:13<+shikadibot> I'm the IRC Shikadibot 0314. You can ask me about acronyms, log/revision(s), dir, file, or just information about me.
20100413 07:24:35< FAAB> shikadibot: help acronyms
20100413 07:24:35<+shikadibot> I have a built-in acronyms dictionary. You just have to ask me about an acronym, i.e. 'shikadibot: NP?'
20100413 07:24:42< FAAB> shikadibot: idk
20100413 07:24:52< FAAB> shikadibot: IDK
20100413 07:24:52 * shikadibot is offended
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20100413 08:28:09< StandYourGround> Noy… there is a spammer called anthonylau in the Wesnoth forums right now
20100413 08:28:16< StandYourGround> he's spamming everywhere by the minute
20100413 08:28:20< StandYourGround> I'm reporting them all
20100413 08:28:59< noy> thank you
20100413 08:30:28< StandYourGround> banhammer the spammer!  woot!  :)
20100413 08:30:43< noy> I can't actually, I'm not a forum admin 
20100413 08:30:54< StandYourGround> oh
20100413 08:31:11< StandYourGround> well, I'm still reporting them as they come
20100413 08:31:16< noy> thats fine
20100413 08:31:25< noy> he'll probably get banned and all his posts removed
20100413 08:31:39< StandYourGround> good.  He's doing some crazy thread necromancy
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20100413 09:29:14<+CIA-9> wesnoth-umc-dev: faabumc * r6933 /trunk/Nightmares_of_Meloen/ai/ais/formula_ai_curse.cfg: NoM AI: only retreat cursed units at neutral ToD if HP is lower than half max HP.
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20100413 10:46:01< FAAB> deekay: I have seen somewhere you were working on the formula AI with crab, is it so ?
20100413 10:47:03< deekay> I was working on it even before crab came here, but yes, it is right. :)
20100413 10:48:40< FAAB> ok :)
20100413 10:49:41< FAAB> I have introduced a feature request (https://gna.org/bugs/?15850), would you have time to look at it ?
20100413 11:07:49< deekay> FAAB: Did you try to do move() to current location?
20100413 11:07:58< deekay> It resets movement points IIRC
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20100413 11:08:57< FAAB> yes, move() does not generate an error IIRC but the problem is that with no movement left the unit is not considered during the fallback stage
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20100413 11:10:11< FAAB> is there any command I can use in the action phase of a candidate_action that would just skip the current unit ?
20100413 11:10:39< deekay> Did you try to "end" it?
20100413 11:11:06< deekay> It's been a wile sinc I looked at FAI, I'm mostly inactive lately (no time, real life etc, etc..)
20100413 11:11:06< FAAB> no
20100413 11:11:44< FAAB> the fact is that I am in a else clause of an if
20100413 11:12:15< FAAB> can I do "if(...   , move(...), end)" ?
20100413 11:12:36< deekay> You can try :)
20100413 11:13:00< deekay> Tho I don't know current implementation, I recall Crab messing with it some time ago..
20100413 11:13:10< FAAB> ok :) I will
20100413 11:13:31< FAAB> otherwise I will wait to catch crab on that
20100413 11:13:40< FAAB> thanks for your help
20100413 11:14:50< FAAB> I am off
20100413 11:14:59< deekay> no problem, cya!
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20100413 14:13:13< shadowmaster> ...DAMMIT
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20100413 14:20:36< fabi> shadowmaster: What is wrong?
20100413 14:23:06< fabi> shadowmaster: I have talked to YogiHH. We have decided that the subforum should be named "Experimenting Corner". It's enough to make YogiHH and my humble one the moderators for the beginning. The description shall be "A place where unusual ideas find their home."
20100413 14:24:14< AI0867> espreon: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/HJVcQLBu
20100413 14:24:30< AI0867> [set_variables] [value] allows subtags
20100413 14:25:20< AI0867> [literal] is a bit faster, but then you can't use [insert_tag] or "stuff $like $this"
20100413 14:26:15< AI0867> FAAB: V
20100413 14:26:18< AI0867> shikadibot: IDK?
20100413 14:26:18<+shikadibot> IDK: I don't know
20100413 14:26:30< AI0867> as opposed to
20100413 14:26:34< AI0867> shikadibot: ASDFASDF
20100413 14:26:34 * shikadibot is offended
20100413 14:27:14< FAAB> AI0867: ok, what was I doing wrong ?
20100413 14:27:20< AI0867> no questionmark
20100413 14:27:33< AI0867> shikadibot: IDK
20100413 14:27:33 * shikadibot is offended
20100413 14:27:33< FAAB> I see thanks
20100413 14:28:02< FAAB> the dir command does not require a question mark, does it ?
20100413 14:28:08< AI0867> no
20100413 14:28:14< FAAB> that is the one I am used to
20100413 14:28:17< AI0867> because that's not an acronym you're looking up
20100413 14:28:31< AI0867> shikadibot: dir?
20100413 14:28:31<+shikadibot> dir: dir (1)              - list directory contents
20100413 14:28:39< AI0867> shikadibot: gcc?
20100413 14:28:39<+shikadibot> GCC: GNU Compiler Collection/GNU C Compiler
20100413 14:28:48< FAAB> shikadibot: ASDFASDF ?
20100413 14:28:48<+shikadibot> Sorry, I don't know what 'ASDFASDF' means...
20100413 14:28:59< AI0867> shikadibot: man?
20100413 14:28:59<+shikadibot> man: man (1)              - an interface to the on-line reference manuals
20100413 14:29:02<+shikadibot> man: man (7)              - macros to format man pages
20100413 14:29:10< AI0867> shikadibot: ?
20100413 14:29:12< FAAB> mm, the offended message is difficult to grasp :/
20100413 14:29:15< AI0867> shikadibot: foo?
20100413 14:29:15<+shikadibot> Sorry, I don't know what 'foo' means...
20100413 14:29:28< AI0867> shikadibot: JKL:
20100413 14:29:28 * shikadibot is offended
20100413 14:29:32< shadowmaster> fabi: nah, I was screaming like that after my classmate's hopeless incompetence :x
20100413 14:29:47< fabi> :-)
20100413 14:30:13< FAAB> so does it know all unix commands ?
20100413 14:30:33< shadowmaster> FAAB: it knows as much as the mandb on the system where it runs knows
20100413 14:30:57< FAAB> shikadibot: uname ?
20100413 14:30:58<+shikadibot> uname: uname (1)            - print system information
20100413 14:31:10< shadowmaster> shikadibot: panic?
20100413 14:31:10<+shikadibot> Sorry, I don't know what 'panic' means...
20100413 14:31:19< shadowmaster> shikadibot: syscalls?
20100413 14:31:19<+shikadibot> Sorry, I don't know what 'syscalls' means...
20100413 14:31:38< shadowmaster> well, we don't have a compiler environment set up there so that's kind of expected.
20100413 14:31:54< fabi> shadowmaster: Have you seen the movie that was made by loonycyborg out of the svn history with a git-svn tool? It could be a nice addition to your Wesnoth history lesson.
20100413 14:32:16< shadowmaster> fabi: I have seen the link and I've never archived it.
20100413 14:32:26< shadowmaster> since it's been posted at times I cannot download huge files...well
20100413 14:32:29< loonycyborg> fabi: I'm not the one who did it.
20100413 14:32:36< fabi> loonycyborg: Sorry
20100413 14:32:53< fabi> shadowmaster: I have stored it on disk somewhere. Do you want me to upload it?
20100413 14:33:14< shadowmaster> assuming you have a server where you can upload that, well sure :P
20100413 14:33:46< fabi> shadowmaster: No, I haven't. Too bad. Maybe it can be uploaded to youtube and linked to?
20100413 14:34:11< shadowmaster> no idea, I've never used YouTube for anything other than laughing like an idiot
20100413 14:34:22< fabi> lol
20100413 14:34:33< shadowmaster> er, I mean, laughing at really interesting high-tech culture stuff
20100413 14:34:42< fabi> sure ;-)
20100413 14:36:19<+CIA-9> wesnoth-umc-dev: faabumc * r6934 /trunk/Nightmares_of_Meloen/ai/formula/cursed_move.fai: NoM AI: heal the curse to the furthest reachable village.
20100413 14:36:37< shadowmaster> fabi: regarding the forum, what's the first thing you'll do with it?
20100413 14:36:59< shadowmaster> I'd open it for you two (and the Shady Test People) only for now until you have a clear idea of what you want from the users
20100413 14:37:09< shadowmaster> (or at least a clear post indicating what your idea is, for the users!)
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20100413 15:09:35< fabi> shadowmaster: Can you open it for me and yogihh, so we can fill in some sticky posts before it is opened to the public? 
20100413 15:10:28< shadowmaster> fabi: sure
20100413 15:12:03< fabi> shadowmaster: Cool, we will meet to talk about it in ~4 hours.
20100413 15:12:23 * shadowmaster checks his schedule
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20100413 15:19:18< shadowmaster> bleh, I'd really like to get rid of autopruning on OT, rename the section and forum to something less ambiguous and have actual moderators AGAIN.
20100413 15:19:53< shadowmaster> but none of the former mods are really around anymore
20100413 15:20:05< fabi> Recruit new ones.
20100413 15:20:10< fabi> What about gambit?
20100413 15:21:12< shadowmaster> NO
20100413 15:21:22 * shadowmaster stabs his Gambit voodoo doll
20100413 15:21:29< fabi> lol
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20100413 15:26:34< shadowmaster> fabi: can you see the forum already?
20100413 15:26:48< shadowmaster> between BfW - Development (restricted) and Miscellaneous at the bottom
20100413 15:27:23< shadowmaster> okay, try now
20100413 15:28:05< fabi> shadowmaster: Yes, I can see it.
20100413 15:58:56< shadowmaster> um, s/Off-Topic/Social/ might be it.
20100413 15:59:09 * shadowmaster admits that he's horrible at names and is just following Aeth's old suggestion
20100413 16:07:38<+CIA-9> wesnoth-umc-dev: faabumc * r6935 /trunk/Nightmares_of_Meloen/ai/formula/ (cursed_eval.fai cursed_move.fai): NoM AI: move the check on existence of a reachable village to heal the curse to the evaluation code.
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20100413 17:20:13< shadowmaster> esr: pling
20100413 17:20:37< esr> What's up?
20100413 17:20:48< shadowmaster> any news from beetlenaut?
20100413 17:20:56< shadowmaster> regarding whether he wants or not to maintain DW in  mainline
20100413 18:27:22< shadowmaster> *crickets*
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20100413 20:46:59< shadowmaster> loonybot << int((char)'2')
20100413 20:47:05<+loonybot> 50
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20100413 20:50:37< shadowmaster> fendrin: around?
20100413 20:50:45< fendrin> shadowmaster: yes
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20100413 23:46:03< Espreon> AI0867: That doesn't work. Now, just providing [insert_tag] with "mf_tod[$i]" would work, but then the "floor" thing would be... yeahz... Wouldn't this be considered "ugly"?
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