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20100421 00:02:26< Aethaeryn> Espreon: bug?
20100421 00:02:59< AI0867> lack of certain features
20100421 00:03:04< Aethaeryn> ah
20100421 00:03:05< Espreon> https://gna.org/bugs/?15600
20100421 00:03:10< AI0867> that were requested ages ago
20100421 00:03:15< Aethaeryn> kinda like how PK lacks hotkeys...
20100421 00:03:19< Aethaeryn> which makes his gameplay clunky.
20100421 00:04:05 * Espreon wonders when he'll get his gettext plurals and other shit.
20100421 00:04:23< Espreon> Maybe by 1.20.
20100421 00:06:49< Espreon> If the game is not fully ready for za warudo... then... yeahz...
20100421 00:08:11< Aethaeryn> Espreon: well, at least Thunderstone will have gettext plurals by the time it's complete. ;)
20100421 00:08:18< AI0867> heh
20100421 00:08:22< AI0867> maybe 1.10
20100421 00:08:50< AI0867> I agree with silene that the second syntax is better
20100421 00:08:51< Aethaeryn> hrmmmm
20100421 00:08:58< AI0867> this leaves 3 things to do:
20100421 00:09:06< AI0867> 1. patching wmlxgettext (perl, ugh)
20100421 00:09:39< AI0867> 2. patching or adding an equivalent class of t_string (dunno how much work this'll be, I'm not too familiar with t_string)
20100421 00:09:53< AI0867> 3. patching the wml parser(s) to understand the new syntax
20100421 00:09:57< Espreon> 'Twill take esr at least one hundred years to convert wmlxgettext's code to python...
20100421 00:10:06< AI0867> Espreon: an attempt was already made
20100421 00:10:10< Espreon> Oh?
20100421 00:10:21< AI0867> not sure by whom, but the perl version worked better
20100421 00:10:28< esr> Espreon: I already did it.  
20100421 00:10:47< Espreon> ... and?
20100421 00:11:03< AI0867> augh, regex abuse
20100421 00:11:14< esr> The problem wasn't that the Perl version worked "better" -- the Python version had all the features Ivanovic wanted that weren't in the Perl version.
20100421 00:11:24< esr> But it was too slow.
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20100421 00:11:40< Espreon> Oh, of course...
20100421 00:11:41< esr> The new features cost too much.
20100421 00:12:17< Espreon> ... and what were these grand features?
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20100421 00:17:11< PK> I liked the feature that turned your computer into an indoor hottub when you turned on wesnoth.
20100421 00:17:27< PK> though, it wasn't implimented after completion.
20100421 00:18:09< PK> too many test subjects passed out from sitting in the hottub too long
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20100421 00:32:10< norbert_> also sounds quite expensive
20100421 01:00:52< Espreon> Hmmmmm... X 1.8...
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20100421 02:47:11< Espreon> Meh, maybe I'll wait a few weeks...
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20100421 03:36:24< Espreon> Oooh, Wine's gettin' all fancy now...
20100421 03:44:04<+CIA-9> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r6988 /trunk/The_Silver_Lands/utils/schedules.cfg: TSL: fixed some capitalization.
20100421 03:45:33<+CIA-9> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r6989 /trunk/The_Silver_Lands/scenarios/02_The_Crypt.cfg: TSL: made scenario two MF_TOD and MF_TIME_AREA aware...
20100421 03:53:00<+CIA-9> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r6990 /trunk/Nightmares_of_Meloen/ (77 files in 18 dirs): NoM: ran umcpropfix.
20100421 03:58:02<+CIA-9> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r6991 /trunk/Extended_Era/eras/default+extended+eom.cfg: EE: the Aberrations are no longer in the EoM... so... yeahz...
20100421 04:00:38<+CIA-9> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r6992 /trunk/Extended_Era/units/aragwaith/Guard.cfg: EE: fixed a macro call.
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20100421 13:55:06< Espreon> timotei21: It beeth a lie...
20100421 13:55:16< Espreon> (Your quit message)
20100421 13:55:25< timotei21> wha?
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20100421 13:55:36< Espreon> That.
20100421 13:55:44< timotei_away> oh, that was old :P
20100421 13:55:53< timotei_away> I was testing some IRC clients
20100421 13:55:55< timotei_away> since XChat2
20100421 13:55:58< Espreon> Oh, I see...
20100421 13:56:02< timotei_away> on windows is only 30 days free :))
20100421 13:56:04< Espreon> Nowadays, I just use irssi + screen.
20100421 13:56:28< timotei_away> that's nice
20100421 13:57:55< timotei_away> I bet on windows it doesn't work so good
20100421 13:57:57< timotei_away> as on linux
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20100421 13:58:17< timotei> let's say, on, copy-pasting text from the console
20100421 13:59:25< Espreon> Meh, well, my irssi session runs on "the server"... so... I just access it using PuTTY.
20100421 13:59:31< Espreon> ... when on Windows...
20100421 14:00:18< Espreon> SSH is so much fun...
20100421 14:00:29< timotei> :D
20100421 14:00:38 * Espreon thinks that "SSH" should be pronounced as "shhh" by all...
20100421 14:00:58< timotei> ye, that would be cool
20100421 14:01:13< Espreon> According to my favorite website, these guys invented SSH: http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm139/rprprs/shhh.png
20100421 14:01:58< Espreon> Seeing that pic and relating it to SSH makes me laugh a lot...
20100421 14:03:30< timotei> lol
20100421 14:03:31< timotei> :))
20100421 14:04:02< Espreon> I know, huh? 'Tis simply brilliant.
20100421 14:04:26< timotei> ye
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20100421 15:17:43< shadowmaster> Espreon: es-es-aitch, period
20100421 15:23:48< shadowmaster> ...well, crap. I forgot how to forward ports.
20100421 15:23:58< shadowmaster> and my scripts are on the other laptop :/
20100421 15:30:05< shadowmaster> ah, found it in the logs
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20100421 17:33:07< Espreon> shadowmaster: Wait, what?
20100421 17:33:13< shadowmaster> SSH.
20100421 17:33:20< shadowmaster> es-es-aitch.
20100421 17:33:29< timotei> again?
20100421 17:33:30< timotei> :))
20100421 17:33:38< Espreon> It must be pronounced as "shhhh"...
20100421 17:34:04< shadowmaster> Espreon: NO
20100421 17:34:16< shadowmaster> es-es-aitch. Repeat after me: es-es-aitch
20100421 17:34:38< Espreon> Clearly, thou art mistaken.
20100421 17:34:40< Espreon> LOL.
20100421 17:35:31< timotei> sese-aitch
20100421 17:38:36< Espreon> Obviously, it is pronounced as [ʃǁˈǁ].
20100421 17:38:52< shadowmaster> Espreon: D:
20100421 17:39:00< shadowmaster> ;.; I DON'T HAVE A FONT THAT DISPLAYS THAT HERE
20100421 17:39:03< Espreon> I'd rather say it like that then saying it like SM proposes.
20100421 17:39:07< Espreon> GET AN IPA FONT.
20100421 17:39:17< timotei> times new roman?
20100421 17:39:18< timotei> :))
20100421 17:39:18< Espreon> Apparently, the International Phonetic Alphabet is teh shit.
20100421 17:39:35< shadowmaster> Konsole defaults to Monospace (DejaVu Sans Mono)
20100421 17:39:45< shadowmaster> for finding glyphs not in this bitmap font, anyway
20100421 17:40:11< Espreon> "Sh-!-!" is probably a decent transliteration.
20100421 17:40:25< Espreon> ! : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alveolar_lateral_click
20100421 17:40:36< shadowmaster> !?
20100421 17:40:37 * Espreon smiles
20100421 17:40:53< shadowmaster> oh, and I won't bother setting up the compose thing here
20100421 17:41:07< Espreon> Dude, I just copied and pasted them here...
20100421 17:41:08< shadowmaster> I could just smash this laptop to pieces.
20100421 17:41:20< shadowmaster> nah, I was thinking about ainterrobang
20100421 17:41:25< shadowmaster> s/ai/a /
20100421 17:41:33< Espreon> What about the inverted interrobang?
20100421 17:41:39< shadowmaster> s/a /a i/
20100421 17:41:44< Espreon> Nah, we don't need that.
20100421 17:41:55< Espreon> The RAE allows ¿...!
20100421 17:42:20< Espreon> ... and if the RAE says it, then it must be true, no matter what.
20100421 17:43:47< Espreon> AI0867: Wouldst thou install Junicode... if it won't cause something bad to happen?
20100421 17:44:19< Espreon> No, wait...
20100421 17:44:21< Espreon> Hold on...
20100421 17:50:23< Espreon> ... and of course it doesn't work.
20100421 17:50:46< Espreon> Yeah, having Junicode would be wonderful...
20100421 17:57:22 * shadowmaster 's feeling sick
20100421 17:57:52< Espreon> Why?
20100421 17:58:15< shadowmaster> It's probably a cold
20100421 18:03:12< Espreon> Anyway, now to start doing actual work...
20100421 18:03:14< Espreon> Byez...
20100421 18:19:47< shadowmaster> I wonder if Velensk will ever confirm that I reproduced http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=422673#p422673 the correct way
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20100421 23:13:18< Espreon> shadowmaster: OK, now you should be able to see that fun IPA stuff, now that we have Junicode.
20100421 23:13:50< Espreon> ... you should also be able to see yogh, wynn, and all of that fun stuff.
20100421 23:26:27 * loonycyborg doesn't know how to install junicode on gentoo so he could see how brown fox jumps over lazy dog in middle english
20100421 23:26:42< Espreon> ... or in Old English...
20100421 23:29:08< Espreon> I wonder what font this lappy uses...
20100421 23:29:34< Espreon> Yes, Sabayon comes with fonts that support IPA, the runic block, et cætera.
20100421 23:31:48< Espreon> loonycyborg: Protip: get a font that supports the runic block, go here: http://ang.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C4%93afods%C4%ABde/%E1%9A%B1%E1%9A%A2%E1%9A%BE ... and blow thy mind...
20100421 23:34:07< loonycyborg> I do see letters in that article/ Does that mean that I already have it installed?
20100421 23:34:36< Espreon> Do they look anything like these: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/57/Anglosaxonrunes.svg ?
20100421 23:35:30< loonycyborg> Yes.
20100421 23:35:44< Espreon> Then you have it!
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20100421 23:49:34< AI0867> old english wikipedia...
20100421 23:49:49< AI0867> so, are you going to get started on an old english translation for wesnoth?
20100421 23:51:10< Espreon> Uh, maybe...
20100421 23:52:15< Espreon> If I were, I would have two translations at the most.
20100421 23:52:42< Espreon> The fuþorc version would have priority, of course...
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