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20100429 03:02:46-!- Topic for #wesnoth-umc-dev: Repository branching still in progress! (trunk <-> branches/1.8) | Wesnoth-UMC-Dev Project discussion and support channel | http://wesnoth-umc-dev.ai0867.net | Staff: AI0867, Espreon, shadowmaster | Project interface: http://tinyurl.com/umcdev | Forum thread: http://tinyurl.com/umcdev-thread | IRC logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org, http://irclogs.ai0867.net
20100429 03:02:46-!- Topic set by umcreg [] [Fri Apr 16 05:47:05 2010]
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20100429 03:02:46[@ChanServ  ] [ AI0867   ] [ Espreon] [ happygrue   ] 
20100429 03:02:46[+shikadibot] [ AnMaster ] [ esr    ] [ lobby       ] 
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20100429 03:02:46[ Aethaeryn ] [ CIA-9    ] [ Gambit ] [ shadowmaster] 
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20100429 03:03:03-!- Channel #wesnoth-umc-dev created Mon Mar 31 16:51:24 2008
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20100429 04:36:33< CIA-9> wesnoth-umc-dev: faabumc * r7042 /trunk/Nightmares_of_Meloen/units/aberrations/ (3 files): NoM I18N: make the damage type of the Watcher's line ranged attack translatable.
20100429 04:46:29< Espreon> FAAB: Are you sure you wanna keep teh underscore in those translatable strings?
20100429 04:46:50< FAAB> no
20100429 04:47:14< Espreon> Then kill it.
20100429 04:47:27< FAAB> we are thinking on another name without space
20100429 04:47:32< Espreon> Ah, I see.
20100429 04:48:06< FAAB> for now we can't put a string with space for the name of a damage type
20100429 04:48:32< Espreon> Oh, yeah...
20100429 04:50:21< FAAB> Espreon: BTW, have you ever build in a macro a translatable string containing one of the parameters ?
20100429 04:50:44< Espreon> Uh, would you please rephrase that?
20100429 04:52:02< FAAB> you know #define MACRO_NAME MACRO_PAR    text = _ "come this way, little {MACRO_PAR}   #enddef
20100429 04:52:34< Espreon> Uh, I wouldn't do that.
20100429 04:52:44< FAAB> should I pass by a variable ?
20100429 04:52:51< Espreon> Yeah.
20100429 04:53:09< Espreon> No, wait.
20100429 04:53:22< Espreon> It's just a bad idea.
20100429 04:53:37< FAAB> how should I do then ?
20100429 04:54:13< FAAB> my macro being a macro defining an ability if that matters
20100429 04:54:14< Espreon> Make it so that the strings don't use anything variable.
20100429 04:55:18< Espreon> So, make separate strings for every possibility, if possible.
20100429 04:55:43< FAAB> how does it make better than the variable ?
20100429 04:57:13< Espreon> FAAB: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflected_language
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20100429 05:00:57< Espreon> FAAB: So.... don't bother.
20100429 05:02:20< FAAB> what do you mean ?
20100429 05:03:57< Espreon> Some languages make extensive use of declension; these languages typically have almost everything marked based on things such as function, gender, and number.
20100429 05:04:37< Espreon> So, if the subbing of the var/argument results in the insertion of a feminine noun, and the rest of the string is expecting something else... yeahz.
20100429 05:05:10< Espreon> The point is that some languages won't be able to naturally translate things if a variable is used.
20100429 05:05:28< Espreon> *won't be able to naturally express things
20100429 05:05:29< FAAB> ok, so I should copy the strings
20100429 05:05:48< Espreon> Yeah, just make strings covering every possibility.
20100429 05:05:58< FAAB> will do, thanks !
20100429 05:06:06< Espreon> You are welcome.
20100429 05:18:15< CIA-9> wesnoth-umc-dev: faabumc * r7043 /trunk/Nightmares_of_Meloen/ (units/insects/in_cr_00_creepers.cfg utils/band.cfg): NoM I18N: Following Espreon's advice, remove use of variable to build translatable strings in banding ability.
20100429 05:18:18< FAAB> ;)
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20100429 05:27:03< Espreon> :)
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20100429 11:50:40< zookeeper> esr, you have any interest in working on the textual side of that orcish campaign i sketched up at some point?
20100429 11:51:54< esr> zookeeper: Yes, I'd work on it.
20100429 11:52:39< esr> Rather enthusiatically, actually, actually.  There was good story in the idea we were kickig around.
20100429 11:53:12< zookeeper> oh, all right. have time in the near future or are you busy with other stuff?
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20100429 12:01:03< esr> Will have time next week.  Expect to be busy until Monday.
20100429 12:02:22< zookeeper> ok, great. i just started to draw maps and write the very basic WML for the first couple of scenarios, so no hurry really.
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20100429 20:16:43< evilshadowmaster> window decorations are like girls. I can't ever find one I really like
20100429 20:27:10< Gambit> I thought you were going to say something about being unnecessary.
20100429 20:27:58< evilshadowmaster> you are unnecessary.
20100429 20:28:03< evilshadowmaster> resistance is futile.
20100429 20:30:31 * Gambit makes himself useful.
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20100429 20:38:40< Gambit> shadowmaster: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=29748 :)
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20100429 20:39:05< Gambit> or more specifically: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=425188#p425188
20100429 20:40:33< shadowmaster> Espreon: I think terminator beats Konsole so far
20100429 20:40:52< shadowmaster> at least current versions which are easier to configure without getting your hands dirty with complicated config files
20100429 20:41:19< shadowmaster> Gambit: you want [who?] instead, I think
20100429 20:41:34< shadowmaster> that links to the "avoid weasel words!" page IIRC
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20100429 23:03:44< Espreon> shadowmaster: I see...
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