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20100406 01:02:50< Gambit> I don't want to brag or anything
20100406 01:02:53< Gambit> DISCLAIMER: I want to brag
20100406 01:02:59< Gambit> I just caught a wild bird with my bare hands
20100406 01:03:03< Gambit> hand... singular.
20100406 01:03:10< Gambit> Without injuring it.
20100406 01:03:20< VurtualRuler98> nice
20100406 01:03:22< VurtualRuler98> what did you do with it?
20100406 01:03:45< Gambit> My hand.
20100406 01:03:50< Gambit> It has some sort of eye problem
20100406 01:03:55< Gambit> I biked right past it and it didn't fly off :\
20100406 01:03:57< VurtualRuler98> you did your hand with it?
20100406 01:04:04< VurtualRuler98> No what are you doing with the bird you caught
20100406 01:04:06< VurtualRuler98> did you just let it go
20100406 01:04:08< Gambit> Oh what did I do with the bird XD
20100406 01:04:11< Gambit> It's on the porch
20100406 01:04:13< VurtualRuler98> Or did you put it in a cage?
20100406 01:04:18< Gambit> it was a sitting duck in the driveway
20100406 01:04:18< VurtualRuler98> Cage it and take it to a vet
20100406 01:04:21< Gambit> sooooo many cats
20100406 01:04:34< VurtualRuler98> Seriously take it to a vet, get it de-diseased if needed, helped
20100406 01:04:39< VurtualRuler98> And now you have a sweet new pet bird
20100406 01:04:51< Gambit> Well it just finally opened it's left eye.
20100406 01:04:54< Gambit> Still no flying.
20100406 01:05:24< Gambit> VurtualRuler98: You can't keep wild birds as pets :\
20100406 01:05:42< VurtualRuler98> why not?
20100406 01:05:45< VurtualRuler98> It wants you to keep it
20100406 01:05:53< Gambit> Because every species of wild bird in PA is protected.
20100406 01:06:02< VurtualRuler98> escape here
20100406 01:06:30 * Gambit is setting up equipment to film it until it starts flapping again
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20100406 02:07:56< Gambit> VurtualRuler98: It's a Brown Thrasher.
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20100406 02:52:33< sirscott> downloaded and compiled 1.8 from source on a 2.6.32 kernel.  when running windowed, it doesn't register any mouse button presses.  full screen works out -- but on a dual monitor (nvidia) system, how can I make "full screen" just be one monitor?
20100406 02:53:38< Gambit> sirscott: bug :(
20100406 02:55:00< sirscott> Gambit: shucks :-/ and no way to make it full screen on just one of the two monitors right?
20100406 02:55:21< Gambit> It's been brought up before.
20100406 02:55:37< Gambit> I'm not sure if it's just impossible, or if it's just a matter of nobody filling out the proper paperwork.
20100406 02:55:56< sirscott> haha ok
20100406 02:55:57< Gambit> Search through bugs.wesnoth.org to see if it's reported there. If not then file a Feature Request.
20100406 02:56:04< sirscott> will do
20100406 02:56:07< sirscott> thanks for the headsup
20100406 02:56:24< sirscott> in the meantime i'll just play on my laptop :)
20100406 02:56:33< Gambit> well windowed works okay.
20100406 02:56:54< Gambit> The MP lobby is a bit buggy[er than usual] in windowed. Other than that there aren't any performance issues.
20100406 02:57:43< Gambit> going afk
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20100406 03:33:28< Gambit> Don't blink. Don't look away or you're dead. :o
20100406 03:37:36< SpoOkyMagician> (pokes Gambit)
20100406 03:38:47< Gambit> Don't turn your back.
20100406 03:39:48< SpoOkyMagician> i wonder what happened to myth... he said he was just gonna restart his computer... that was... lets see... 7:06pm and its 9:40pm now... lol
20100406 03:40:33< SpoOkyMagician> if you computer takes almost 3 hours to restart... xD
20100406 03:42:49< Gambit> SpoOkyMagician: He blinked :(
20100406 03:43:15< SpoOkyMagician> he wasnt even in irc XD
20100406 03:43:47< SpoOkyMagician> but yea w/e. i was just gonna ask him something but no matter. it can wait til later.
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20100406 03:44:42< Gambit> Luckily for you I have a timey wimey detector. It blinks when there's stuff.
20100406 03:45:47< SpoOkyMagician> hey Solition you busy atm?
20100406 03:45:55< SpoOkyMagician> (or afk)
20100406 03:47:01< SpoOkyMagician> :l
20100406 03:47:06< SpoOkyMagician> oh well
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20100406 04:01:53< Gambit> Raise your hand if you want to make death panels an internet meme.
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20100406 04:02:44< noy> Gambit: its just ridiculous
20100406 04:03:16< Gambit> Not any more so than long cat, or OVER 9000!.
20100406 04:03:21< noy> currently you have death panels, the only difference is that its by how much you pay.
20100406 04:03:40< VurtualRuler98> death panels?
20100406 04:04:17< VurtualRuler98> Sweet I can put my chaos-breakers in it to power my deathtraps
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20100406 04:13:59< Blarumyrran> What does the "panel" there mean?
20100406 04:14:24< VurtualRuler98> electrical panel/circuit breaker box
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20100406 10:46:15< ghyr-easeus> hi
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20100406 11:14:24< Ivanovic> moin
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20100406 12:35:47< hoftel> hi
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20100406 12:37:51< hoftel> if a rpm package for wesnoth 1.8 finished and published pls tell me my skype name is hoftel92 thx
20100406 12:50:19< Tiy> ..
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20100406 13:54:03< Rigor> hi all
20100406 13:54:42< Rigor> id need a wesnoth developer, if possible somebody who is doing the interface in the lobby, commands and such
20100406 13:59:13< Unnheulu> Try asking in #wesnoth-dev
20100406 13:59:25< Rigor> thx
20100406 13:59:50< Unnheulu> np ;)
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20100406 14:53:22< Unnheulu> IftU is too hard for me :(
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20100406 15:20:32< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: hi
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20100406 15:23:32< shadowmaster> can you poke me when you are around, please?
20100406 15:23:53 * Rhonda pokes shadowmaster
20100406 15:24:09< shadowmaster> that was for Unnheulu only <.<
20100406 15:24:24< Rhonda> Why didn't you say so?
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20100406 15:29:19< Unnheulu> hi
20100406 15:29:28 * Unnheulu pokes shadowmaster
20100406 15:30:14< shadowmaster> 21:41 <shadowmaster> Unnheulu: you know that your wesnoth-tc frontend doesn't work if the current working dir isn't the one that has the glade file?
20100406 15:30:17< shadowmaster> 21:42 <shadowmaster> also, I'd like to have just a script, not a script+.glade file pair. Do you know anything about this or am I on my own?
20100406 15:30:35< Unnheulu> humm
20100406 15:31:11< shadowmaster> the first line describes what I'd consider a "release-critical" issue
20100406 15:31:17< Unnheulu> yeh
20100406 15:31:36< Unnheulu> That should be an easy fix (hopefully)
20100406 15:31:58< shadowmaster> yes, hopefully, because I'm an experienced C++ and Perl coder and couldn't figure a good solution in Python.
20100406 15:32:02< Unnheulu> And for the second, the only way I can think of is kinda messy (compressing it into the main file)
20100406 15:32:34< Unnheulu> Hang on
20100406 15:32:36< shadowmaster> that could be done by a script, but isn't there any way to convert the .glade thing into actual code?
20100406 15:32:55< Blarumyrran> (what's a .glade file?)
20100406 15:32:56< shadowmaster> s/isn't/is/
20100406 15:33:13< Unnheulu> You can, but, it would significantly increase the cod size, and be a lot harder to debug
20100406 15:33:16< Unnheulu> *code
20100406 15:33:23< shadowmaster> Blarumyrran: http://glade.gnome.org/
20100406 15:33:44< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: nothing that could be automated?
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20100406 15:33:52< Unnheulu> I'm not sure, possibly
20100406 15:34:28< shadowmaster> otherwise, I could probably make it adhere to the pkgdatadir convention
20100406 15:35:04< shadowmaster> somehow, not sure. I've never mixed Python and autotools rules
20100406 15:35:12< Unnheulu> Wouldn't the working directory only be different if the gladefile is in a different folder?
20100406 15:35:12< shadowmaster> *Python targets
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20100406 15:35:37< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: the problem is that your code assumes that the glade file *is* in the working directory
20100406 15:35:42< Unnheulu> Oh ok
20100406 15:36:05< shadowmaster> for all I care I could invoke /home/shadowm/bin/wesnoth-tc-gui with working dir /home/shadowm/bfw_artwork/elynia
20100406 15:36:06< Unnheulu> so I just need to add in an os.path.join, and a line somewhere saying *where* the gladefile is
20100406 15:36:29< Unnheulu> Oh I see your problem
20100406 15:37:15< shadowmaster> in fact, the C++ target has to choose between a few possible valid locations
20100406 15:37:25< Unnheulu> My point is knowing where the gladefile is saved
20100406 15:37:42< Unnheulu> If I know that its an easy fix
20100406 15:39:00< Unnheulu> brb
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20100406 15:39:16< exDM69> hi guys
20100406 15:39:36< exDM69> I came here because I'm interested in GSoCing in wesnoth
20100406 15:39:43< exDM69> are there any GSoc mentors here?
20100406 15:39:50< shadowmaster> exDM69: you should go to #wesnoth-dev
20100406 15:39:57< exDM69> going ->
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20100406 15:41:19< Unnheulu|Laptop> ok, back
20100406 15:41:24< shadowmaster> argh, I've just noticed that wesnoth-tc doesn't really honor the pkgdatadir convention at source level, only at install level. It'll most likely break if I configure it with --datadir=/usr/banana
20100406 15:41:33< shadowmaster> s/most likely/definitely/
20100406 15:41:59< shadowmaster> that'll be easy to fix anyway.
20100406 15:42:33< King_Elendil> hello :)
20100406 15:42:38< shadowmaster> Unnheulu|Laptop: the logic used by wesnoth-tc for locating its datadir (which has the .def file, and which should probably have the .glade file if it isn't embeded into the script) is at http://gitorious.org/wesnoth-tc/wesnoth-tc/blobs/master/src/wesnoth-tc.cpp#line112
20100406 15:43:07< Unnheulu|Laptop> ok
20100406 15:43:09< Unnheulu|Laptop> thanks
20100406 15:43:13< shadowmaster> it uses the method in http://gitorious.org/wesnoth-tc/wesnoth-tc/blobs/master/src/fs.cpp#line139, but assume  that lines 130 and 132 read something to the effect of pkgdatadir instead of /share
20100406 15:43:45< shadowmaster> (in fact, since I could actually set pkgdatadir to /apple/banana while bindir is /usr/bin, I need to revise that)
20100406 15:43:47< King_Elendil> wow, your still talking about team-color?
20100406 15:43:54< Unnheulu|Laptop> :-P
20100406 15:43:59< shadowmaster> King_Elendil: is there any problem with that?
20100406 15:44:32< shadowmaster> I could just open ##shadowm, y'know.
20100406 15:44:49< King_Elendil> no, That's just the last thing you were talking about last time I joined
20100406 15:44:50< Unnheulu|Laptop> But, if I can compress the gladefile into the code, then I don't need to search for the gladefile
20100406 15:45:34< shadowmaster> Unnheulu|Laptop: so far it sounds like "the maintainer" (me?) would be better not having to worry about embedding that data into the script
20100406 15:46:22< King_Elendil> shadowmaster, are you having a good day?
20100406 15:46:23< Unnheulu|Laptop> But, if I integrate it straight into the code, you wouldn't have to worry about that file at all
20100406 15:46:46< shadowmaster> King_Elendil: yes, a pretty nice one
20100406 15:46:49< shadowmaster> do gst
20100406 15:46:55< King_Elendil> that's good :)
20100406 15:46:55< shadowmaster> s/do gst/so far/
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20100406 15:47:47< shadowmaster> Unnheulu|Laptop: or you can just figure out a way to integrate it into the code and I figure out a way to do it in a Makefile target
20100406 15:48:09< shadowmaster> e.g. inserting the .glade file into wesnoth-tc-gui.py.in to produce wesnoth-tc-gui
20100406 15:48:36< shadowmaster> that sounds much easier for me ^^
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20100406 15:48:44< Unnheulu|Laptop> ;)
20100406 15:49:10< Gambit> (:
20100406 15:49:16< Unnheulu|Laptop> Ok, so I'll just compress it into the code/blatantly copy it as a huge string
20100406 15:49:53< Unnheulu|Laptop> 'cos a gladefile is just a big xml file
20100406 15:50:02< King_Elendil> Gambit: was that a :( typo or a :) typo? or was it on purpose?
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20100406 15:53:45< Gambit> King_Elendil: Backwards smileys are all the rage in china.
20100406 15:54:32< King_Elendil> oh. but IIRC, your not in china d:
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20100406 15:55:32< Gambit> King_Elendil: Do you like sauerkraut?
20100406 15:55:44< King_Elendil> no. why?
20100406 15:55:52< Gambit> Pizza?
20100406 15:56:02< Unnheulu|Laptop> shadowmaster, Ok, I can compress it, but, it would have the extra requirement of zlib, (but, afaik that comes with python)
20100406 15:56:15< shadowmaster> Unnheulu|Laptop: it cannot be left in the script uncompressed?
20100406 15:56:26< shadowmaster> s/left in/inserted into/
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20100406 15:56:51< Gambit> King_Elendil: Odds are you like [insert international food] and yet IIRC you're not in [insert country of origin].
20100406 15:56:59< Unnheulu|Laptop> shadowmaster, sure, it'll just be 180 lines longer :)
20100406 15:57:29< Gambit> And actually I haven't a clue of backwards smiley's popularity in China, but they read right to left. Just a little joke. :\
20100406 15:57:35< shadowmaster> Unnheulu|Laptop: that shouldn't be a big problem
20100406 15:57:42< King_Elendil> yes, I like pizza. but IIRC it originated in new york
20100406 15:57:44< shadowmaster> I mean, wmllint is thousands of lines long IIRC
20100406 15:57:51< Gambit> King_Elendil: Pizza is italian.
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20100406 15:58:13< Unnheulu|Laptop> oh, that's ok then :P
20100406 15:58:13< zookeeper> wtf :D
20100406 15:58:25< zookeeper> pizza originated in new york? :D
20100406 15:58:31< zookeeper> asdf
20100406 15:58:35< zookeeper> sorry, carry on.
20100406 15:58:41< King_Elendil> right, but I think it was first made in new york by an italian immigrant.
20100406 15:58:56< Unnheulu|Laptop> 'cos python is pretty high level, then it usually has unnecessarily long files
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20100406 16:01:05< Gambit> Hardly.
20100406 16:03:27< Gambit> King_Elendil: wikipedia.
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20100406 16:03:42 * Unnheulu|Laptop sighs, turns out python is having trouble with multi line strings
20100406 16:03:49< King_Elendil> wait, I made a mistake. the first american pizzeria was in new york, but it was already known throughout europe by this time. I do like kalua-pig, which originated in hawaii, where I spent the first 11 years of my life
20100406 16:03:51< Gambit> Shadowmaster damnit! Now I'm hungry for pizza.
20100406 16:03:57< Unnheulu|Laptop> lawl
20100406 16:04:46< King_Elendil> I was already looking at wikipedia (the source of all truth... LOL)
20100406 16:05:27< Gambit> I wonder... if I put pepperoni and cheese on these waffles...
20100406 16:06:01< Unnheulu|Laptop> :/
20100406 16:06:05< Telaron> Nice breakfast
20100406 16:07:12< Telaron> hey, my brother poured chocolate milk in his oatmeal this morning... can't be that different.\
20100406 16:07:43< Unnheulu|Laptop> (what's chocolate milk and oatmeal? >.>)
20100406 16:07:57< Gambit> Milk and oatmeal is a bad combo no matter what type of milk.
20100406 16:08:00< King_Elendil> you really don't know?
20100406 16:08:02< Gambit> oatmeal is to be sticky.
20100406 16:08:20< Gambit> You pour excess liquid on it and... bleg
20100406 16:08:49< King_Elendil> nah, I like it with a little milk, but not too much
20100406 16:09:14< Gambit> Unnheulu|Laptop: oatmeal is oats, raisens, brown sugar, and hot water.
20100406 16:09:19< Unnheulu|Laptop> ok
20100406 16:09:20< Telaron> I put cumin in once... 
20100406 16:09:20< Gambit> *and nothing else* ;)
20100406 16:09:33< Unnheulu|Laptop> Its not something I see in the shops round here
20100406 16:09:38< Gambit> Chocolate milk is milk with chocolate syrup.
20100406 16:09:50< Telaron> What, oatmeal?
20100406 16:10:05< King_Elendil> I once replaced raisins with chocolate chips...
20100406 16:10:12< Unnheulu|Laptop> Both
20100406 16:10:20< Gambit> Unnheulu|Laptop: You should try it... and tobasco sauce.
20100406 16:10:22< Gambit> Yum.
20100406 16:10:31< Unnheulu|Laptop> Wait, is oatmeal that sticky sweat stuff I might've had in Canada once?
20100406 16:10:44< Gambit> It is almost always a breakfast.
20100406 16:10:46< Telaron> Where do you live?
20100406 16:10:49< Gambit> Did you have it for breakfast?
20100406 16:11:04< Telaron> Yeah, especially at my house...lol!
20100406 16:11:13< Unnheulu|Laptop> Gambit, yeh
20100406 16:11:36< Gambit> like breakfast porridge.
20100406 16:11:52< King_Elendil> cream-of-wheat, or farina hot cereal, is also very good
20100406 16:12:02< Unnheulu|Laptop> oh, so thats what it is
20100406 16:12:03< Gambit> Oatmeal makes excellent cookies too (somehow)
20100406 16:12:05< Unnheulu|Laptop> I think I know
20100406 16:12:40< King_Elendil> xer, what country do you live in?
20100406 16:12:49< Gambit> He doesn't live in a country
20100406 16:12:50< Unnheulu|Laptop> Cymru (UK)
20100406 16:12:53< Gambit> he's inside a Whale :o
20100406 16:12:53< shadowmaster> Unnheulu|Laptop: isn't it """ ?
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20100406 16:12:59< Unnheulu|Laptop> I live in a principality
20100406 16:13:00< shadowmaster> I mean """ starts a raw multiline string
20100406 16:13:06< Unnheulu|Laptop> shadowmaster, that's a comment last I checked
20100406 16:13:17< Unnheulu|Laptop> I've found a way to sort out my problem though
20100406 16:13:26< Telaron> which one?
20100406 16:13:58< Gambit> Inside a whale :@
20100406 16:14:08< Unnheulu|Laptop> Gambit, so do cloud and thespaceinvader
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20100406 16:14:33< Gambit> Are you all in different whales?
20100406 16:14:37< King_Elendil> have you met them in person?
20100406 16:14:38< Gambit> Or is it the same man-eater?
20100406 16:14:46< Gambit> :)
20100406 16:14:50< King_Elendil> lol
20100406 16:15:10< Unnheulu|Laptop> Never met them :P
20100406 16:15:17< Gambit> Dude you should.
20100406 16:15:18< Telaron> So what does it look like in there? Must be damp.
20100406 16:15:31< Gambit> FOSDWM?
20100406 16:15:34< shadowmaster> Unnheulu|Laptop: it is a multiline string
20100406 16:15:35< Unnheulu|Laptop> They're all miles away
20100406 16:15:40< Unnheulu|Laptop> shadowmaster, is it? >.>
20100406 16:15:47< Unnheulu|Laptop> bah, I'll finish the way I'm doing it now
20100406 16:15:47< Telaron> Or in a zoo...
20100406 16:15:53< Gambit> Telaron: Ever played kindgom hearts?
20100406 16:15:56< shadowmaster> Unnheulu|Laptop: try it in the interpreter?
20100406 16:15:58< Gambit> It looks like that. ;)
20100406 16:16:03< Unnheulu|Laptop> shadowmaster, yeh, I guess I will
20100406 16:16:07< Telaron> Nope
20100406 16:16:26< Unnheulu|Laptop> Oh yeh
20100406 16:16:32< Telaron> Though I have just played the old windows hearts...
20100406 16:16:37< Unnheulu|Laptop> *sighs*
20100406 16:16:57< Telaron> Used to be an addict to hearts actually.
20100406 16:17:00< Gambit> Telaron: Well... it's a little bit different.
20100406 16:17:03< Gambit> Just a smidge. :\
20100406 16:17:15< King_Elendil> WML question: I want to move my leader unit using [move_unit_fake], so would I use [store_unit] then [unstore_unit]?
20100406 16:17:20< Gambit> One's a card game and the other is an rpg based in various disney locales...
20100406 16:17:27< Gambit> Not that big of a difference.
20100406 16:17:35< Telaron> lol
20100406 16:18:03< Telaron> Sounds like a card game though.
20100406 16:18:24< Gambit> King_Elendil: yes
20100406 16:18:32< Gambit> move_unit_fake does not affect the unit.
20100406 16:18:35< King_Elendil> and would that be able to trigger a [move_to] event?
20100406 16:18:40< Gambit> It creates an image.
20100406 16:18:48< King_Elendil> right ok
20100406 16:18:49< Gambit> store the unit and kill it
20100406 16:18:53< Gambit> then move_unit_fake
20100406 16:18:58< Telaron> You could set an objective for your leader also
20100406 16:19:03< Gambit> then alter the X and Y
20100406 16:19:05< Gambit> then unstore.
20100406 16:19:10< Gambit> I think there's a macro for it.
20100406 16:19:14< Gambit> If not there really should be.
20100406 16:19:30< Gambit> I wrote one called ghostwalking cause I was too lazy to look. I can pastebin it to you if you want.
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20100406 16:20:22< King_Elendil> yeah, if it's not to much of a hassle on your end
20100406 16:20:23< Gambit> King_Elendil: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/gx19KE1z
20100406 16:20:26< Telaron> I had this one problem with transporting all my leaders away from the enemies to a new keep, and the darned buggers just wouldn't recruit. They'd just charge!
20100406 16:21:06< shadowmaster> King_Elendil: there's a macro that does the [store_unit]+MUF+[unstore_unit] sequence btw
20100406 16:21:23< King_Elendil> ok..
20100406 16:21:31< Gambit> ARG takes something like "ID" or "name"
20100406 16:21:42< Gambit> VAL takes the value of the thing in ARG.
20100406 16:21:57< zookeeper> -.-
20100406 16:22:05< shadowmaster> I meant mainline macro
20100406 16:22:08< zookeeper> just tell him to use MOVE_UNIT like he already does
20100406 16:22:09< Unnheulu|Laptop> shadowmaster, I've found another (theroretical) bug
20100406 16:22:11< Gambit> So if you wanted to store konrad you could use {GHOSTWALK name Konrad 5 5}
20100406 16:22:21< Unnheulu|Laptop> If the user hasn't got write permissions to the working directory it'll crash
20100406 16:22:25< Gambit> shadowmaster: what's the name?
20100406 16:22:36< shadowmaster> MOVE_UNIT
20100406 16:22:36< zookeeper> Gambit, why the heck would anyone want the arguments to work like that?
20100406 16:22:45< Gambit> Flexebility.
20100406 16:22:53< zookeeper> no
20100406 16:23:08< Gambit> Yes.
20100406 16:23:11< zookeeper> prove it
20100406 16:23:12< shadowmaster> King_Elendil: so, use that instead of reinventing the wheel with Gambit's horribly coded macro
20100406 16:23:24< King_Elendil> lol
20100406 16:23:26< Gambit> sometimes you want to use the ID, sometimes I want to use x,y
20100406 16:23:30< shadowmaster> *horribly coded and not indented
20100406 16:23:44< Gambit> Real men don't indent? (I got nothing)
20100406 16:23:52< zookeeper> Gambit, yeah. so when i want to use an id i use id=Konrad and if i want to use x,y i use x,y=1,2
20100406 16:24:24< Gambit> So you just combined them into one.
20100406 16:24:26< Gambit> Yeah that is better.
20100406 16:24:40< zookeeper> i'm glad we agree on that ;)
20100406 16:24:42< Gambit> King_Elendil: Time to go digging through data/core/macros then.
20100406 16:24:56< King_Elendil> just did
20100406 16:25:00< zookeeper> half the core macros featuring any unit filters do it like that anyway, hence the confusingness of your way
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20100406 16:25:23< King_Elendil> zookeeper: hi, have you seen my thread about my cut-scene scenario?
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20100406 16:25:46< zookeeper> King_Elendil, well, i replied in it so i suppose
20100406 16:25:59< King_Elendil> sorry I missed that lol
20100406 16:26:01< Gambit> shadowmaster: it's not indented yes, but how is it horribly coded?
20100406 16:26:12< King_Elendil> the story was just a plac-holder one
20100406 16:26:15< Gambit> Mildly bad maybe...
20100406 16:26:24< King_Elendil> *place-holder
20100406 16:26:25< shadowmaster> firstly, because MOVE_UNIT already exists and takes other things into consideration
20100406 16:26:29< shadowmaster> other things that yours doesn't.
20100406 16:26:45< shadowmaster> secondly, because MOVE_UNIT already exists
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20100406 16:27:24< Gambit> so then... GHOSTWALK is to MOVE_UNIT as chrome is to internet explorer
20100406 16:27:40< shadowmaster> bad analogy
20100406 16:27:46< Gambit> rofl.
20100406 16:28:18< Unnheulu|Laptop> shadowmaster, I'll try doing it the same way as you did it in the C++ code, it might be easier
20100406 16:28:22< shadowmaster> Gambit: I meant yours
20100406 16:28:34< Unnheulu|Laptop> (glade has to load from a file as far as I know)
20100406 16:29:15< Gambit> shadowmaster: Aaaand?
20100406 16:29:21< zookeeper> how is it horribly coded? it doesn't clear the variable, it doesn't handle multiple units, it doesn't change the facing of the unit
20100406 16:29:22< Unnheulu|Laptop> just one or to things left to try first
20100406 16:29:38< zookeeper> ok, looks like MOVE_UNIT doesn't handle multiple units either
20100406 16:29:52< shadowmaster> zookeeper: I believe you wanted to implement that yourself some time ago
20100406 16:30:03< zookeeper> shadowmaster, probably
20100406 16:31:00< Gambit> zookeeper: What if I need the variable later? :o
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20100406 16:31:06 * Unnheulu|Laptop idly wonders if you can move several units at once with WML or if must be one at a time
20100406 16:31:08 * Gambit packrat
20100406 16:31:20< Gambit> Unnheulu|Laptop: An array?
20100406 16:31:24 * Unnheulu|Laptop shrugs
20100406 16:31:36< Gambit> Yeah [store_unit] can store a bunch
20100406 16:31:39< Gambit> then you just loop through them,.
20100406 16:31:50< Unnheulu|Laptop> I was just wondering if you could move a bunch at the same time, rather than one at a time
20100406 16:32:00< zookeeper> no, you can't
20100406 16:32:01< Unnheulu|Laptop> I don't really care how its done, just if it *can* be done ;P
20100406 16:32:02< Unnheulu|Laptop> ok
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20100406 16:32:36< zookeeper> the last time i checked, unstoring a whole array of units with a single [unstore_unit] doesn't work, meaning that you'll have to do it one by one
20100406 16:33:57< Unnheulu|Laptop> shadowmaster, nope, it can't be stored in the code, it would appear, unless I rebuild the whole gui in the code which equals loadsa bugs
20100406 16:34:24< King_Elendil> zookeeper: did you notice anything wrong?
20100406 16:34:35< King_Elendil> other than the story?
20100406 16:34:56< Unnheulu|Laptop> (a gtk.glade.XML object can only be made with a filename, not a string, it attempts to load the string as a filename if you pass that instead)
20100406 16:36:13< zookeeper> King_Elendil, no
20100406 16:36:18< Unnheulu|Laptop> So, I'm gonna have to add some code which'll search for the gladefile 
20100406 16:37:26< King_Elendil> hmm. well if you don't see it the n I'm in trouble :( . oh well, I'll get it eventually
20100406 16:38:35< Unnheulu|Laptop> King_Elendil, just wondering, how long ago were you last on irc? It's been like 5 days since I was super bothering him :P
20100406 16:39:47< King_Elendil> a few days ago. but it wasn't you it was Blarumyrran
20100406 16:39:58< Gambit> King_Elendil: you asked if he saw anything _else_. Did you fix what he already pointed out?
20100406 16:40:24< King_Elendil> what was that?
20100406 16:40:30< Gambit> "bad quoting".
20100406 16:40:32< shadowmaster> Unnheulu|Laptop: :/
20100406 16:40:43< Blarumyrran> What was I again
20100406 16:40:47< Unnheulu|Laptop> http://library.gnome.org/devel/pygtk/stable/class-gladexml.html
20100406 16:40:50< Gambit> He was not referring to the narrative my friend.
20100406 16:40:51< Unnheulu|Laptop> problem with gtk
20100406 16:41:14< Unnheulu|Laptop> if you don't have a problem with the gladefile being stored in the same folder as the code, then adding one line can fix the trouble
20100406 16:41:25< King_Elendil> what does that mean? i did a bad job on the story, or I made an actuall mistake somewhere?
20100406 16:41:33< Gambit> you have: 
20100406 16:41:34< Gambit> ""I think I will visit the Blacksmith, Olmar." said Heorst"
20100406 16:42:16< Unnheulu|Laptop> Gambit, is there anything wrong with that?
20100406 16:42:23< Gambit> So IIUC you have a complete empty string. "", then I think I will visit the Blacksmith, Olmar. which is not part of the message.
20100406 16:42:31< Unnheulu|Laptop> :P
20100406 16:42:32< Gambit> Then " said Heorst".
20100406 16:42:51< King_Elendil> oh, I get it!
20100406 16:43:01< Unnheulu|Laptop> \ is your friend
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20100406 16:43:14< Blarumyrran> King_Elendil, what was I?
20100406 16:43:20< Gambit> Slash isn't how you esscape characters in WML is it?
20100406 16:43:24< Unnheulu|Laptop> unless you have super huge copy+pasted xml strings
20100406 16:43:32< Unnheulu|Laptop> Gambit, isn't it? I dunno
20100406 16:43:42< Gambit> Well to escape dollar signs you use $|
20100406 16:43:43< shadowmaster> Gambit: only in Pango markup contexts
20100406 16:43:58< Gambit> Oh. Which message is? <<shadowmaster
20100406 16:44:00< shadowmaster> that is, in string literals for GUI elements
20100406 16:44:01< King_Elendil> that's not any real issue though, because I am going to change all the story later anyway
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20100406 16:44:13< King_Elendil> team color
20100406 16:44:21< Gambit> King_Elendil: It is if the scenario won't load because of it. -_-
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20100406 16:44:45< King_Elendil> right... let me change it then test.
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20100406 16:44:58< Unnheulu|Laptop> pangocairo is a messy library to use :/
20100406 16:45:22< Unnheulu|Laptop> shadowmaster, will the gladefile be in a different folder to the source?
20100406 16:46:37< shadowmaster> of course...
20100406 16:47:04 * Unnheulu|Laptop always thought a gladefile would consititute source code
20100406 16:47:06< shadowmaster> the idea is that the thing works after using the make install target to install the binary and script to something that is in PATH
20100406 16:47:27< shadowmaster> also, gtk.Builder can use strings
20100406 16:47:42< Unnheulu|Laptop> gtk.Builder != gtk.glade.xml
20100406 16:47:44< shadowmaster> ISTR that there's a way to convert glade stuff to gtkBuilder
20100406 16:47:52< Unnheulu|Laptop> I was always under the impression that a gladefile was kept with the source code
20100406 16:47:53< Unnheulu|Laptop> ok
20100406 16:48:24< shadowmaster> I want people to be able to run this thing from *any* directory
20100406 16:48:47< Unnheulu|Laptop> I know
20100406 16:48:55< Unnheulu|Laptop> I can do that
20100406 16:48:57< Unnheulu|Laptop> one line
20100406 16:49:11< Unnheulu|Laptop> In fact, I'll add in that line to fix that bug now ;P
20100406 16:49:31< Unnheulu|Laptop> It's just finding the gladefile if its not in the same file as the source
20100406 16:50:06< Unnheulu|Laptop> (Eg, the gladefile is in the source folder, but, the working directory is different)
20100406 16:50:13< Unnheulu|Laptop> That's easy to get working
20100406 16:52:04< Unnheulu|Laptop> On line 57 add this: self.gladefile = os.path.join(self.local_path, "gui.glade")
20100406 16:52:13< Unnheulu|Laptop> (new line)
20100406 16:52:33< Unnheulu|Laptop> and on the new line 63 change "gui.glade" to self.gladefile
20100406 16:54:50< Unnheulu|Laptop> But, that will still only work if the gladefile is in the same folder as the code
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20100406 16:56:04< Unnheulu|Laptop> hiah
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20100406 16:56:50< Gambit> Why do you need a spanish glossary for a text book written completely in english?
20100406 17:06:19< Unnheulu|Laptop> shadowmaster, is that fix enough, or do you insist on the gladefile being elsewhere?
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20100406 17:08:37< Unnheulu|WESNOTH> doh
20100406 17:08:49< Unnheulu|WESNOTH> For another channel I tried being Unnheulu|WESNOTHAIGOTME
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20100406 17:12:44< shadowmaster> self.local_path resolves to what?
20100406 17:13:55< Unnheulu|Laptop> the folder that the file's stored in
20100406 17:14:24< Unnheulu|Laptop> (sys.argv gives you in an array what was typed on the command line)
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20100406 17:16:42< shadowmaster> so self.local_path resolves to the script (if any)'s parent dir?
20100406 17:17:03< Unnheulu> humm?
20100406 17:17:21< shadowmaster> I'm asking you.
20100406 17:17:50< Unnheulu> print self.local_path :)
20100406 17:18:06< Unnheulu> (or, it just goes to the folder main.py / w/e is in)
20100406 17:23:04< shadowmaster> so it was just as I said
20100406 17:23:29< Unnheulu> yeh
20100406 17:23:52< Unnheulu> Except I don't use fancy words^^
20100406 17:24:00< shadowmaster> I can't find local_path documented anywhere
20100406 17:24:06< Unnheulu> line 56
20100406 17:24:14< shadowmaster> also, could you produce a patch?
20100406 17:24:30< Unnheulu> I don't have your updated version...
20100406 17:24:57< Unnheulu>  /no git
20100406 17:25:01< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: against your original
20100406 17:25:06< Unnheulu> oh
20100406 17:25:17< shadowmaster> also, you can always clone the repo...
20100406 17:25:17< Unnheulu> I don't have git either ;)
20100406 17:25:24< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: patches are generated using diff
20100406 17:25:31< Unnheulu> oh...:P
20100406 17:25:40< shadowmaster> but I think I'll spend more time teaching you to use it than figuring out the differences myself
20100406 17:25:52< Unnheulu> Yeh, I'm thinking the same
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20100406 17:26:08< Unnheulu> hey elias
20100406 17:26:32< elias> hi Unnheulu 
20100406 17:26:42< Unnheulu> shadowmaster: methinks I get it now
20100406 17:31:03< Unnheulu> shadowmaster: http://pastebin.com/Q3jAC65m
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20100406 17:31:24< King_Elendil> What would this mean: "ERROR DETAILS:Quoted string not terminated at Users/me/Library/Preferences/Wesnoth_1.6/data/campaigns/A_Simple_Campaign/_main.cfg:38"? Does it mean that there is an error on line 38 in the document _main.cfg?
20100406 17:31:38< Unnheulu> It means that's where the error was found
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20100406 17:31:51< King_Elendil> line 38?
20100406 17:31:55< Unnheulu> and it also means you have got an odd number of "'s on one line
20100406 17:33:19< King_Elendil> wait, I think I got it...
20100406 17:35:16< King_Elendil> yeah, I fixed that, but it still gives my an "unknown scenario" error message :(
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20100406 17:36:53 * Unnheulu thinks he is too thick for shadowmans liking :/
20100406 17:38:35< zookeeper> King_Elendil, pretty clear what that means. the game doesn't know of such a scenario.
20100406 17:39:10< King_Elendil> right...
20100406 17:39:54< Unnheulu> King_Elendil: your still working on the _main.cfg?
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20100406 17:43:24< King_Elendil> what happened?
20100406 17:43:34< Unnheulu> netsplit
20100406 17:43:52< King_Elendil> what does that mean?
20100406 17:43:57< King_Elendil> nvm
20100406 17:44:01< King_Elendil> does the fact that the main.cfg specify 3 difficulties, but my scenario doesn't, make a difference?
20100406 17:44:08< Unnheulu> Shouldn't do
20100406 17:44:29< King_Elendil> that's what I thought
20100406 17:44:29< Unnheulu> On #ludumdare on afternet, there was a massive netsplit once (like the whole channel but 4 people left)
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20100406 17:44:47< King_Elendil> that's what just happened here
20100406 17:44:54< Unnheulu> nope
20100406 17:45:01< Unnheulu> 6 people left
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20100406 17:45:08< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: don't forget that netsplits are very relative
20100406 17:45:16< Unnheulu> 6 people left
20100406 17:45:18< Unnheulu> *humm
20100406 17:45:36< shadowmaster> if I'm in one of the splitted servers and connection between my client and the server still works, I'll probably see most people "quitting"
20100406 17:45:48< Unnheulu> yeh
20100406 17:45:52< shadowmaster> also, there were lots of massive, continuous netsplits on freenode last december, you probably missed that
20100406 17:45:57< Unnheulu> Probably
20100406 17:46:03< shadowmaster> (distributed DoS)
20100406 17:46:26< King_Elendil> well mine stayed, i that a good thing?
20100406 17:46:34< Unnheulu> You left
20100406 17:46:51< shadowmaster> King_Elendil: it means that you were in an affected server.
20100406 17:46:52< King_Elendil> no, I didn't
20100406 17:46:58< King_Elendil> oh
20100406 17:47:10< King_Elendil> oh well
20100406 17:47:12 * Unnheulu wonders if the DDoS was in response to freenode blocking the froggy client
20100406 17:47:17< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: no.
20100406 17:47:23< Unnheulu> oh, ok
20100406 17:47:29< shadowmaster> and it wasn't targetting freenode specifically according to the rumors.
20100406 17:47:49< Unnheulu> (targetting a channel on freenode?)
20100406 17:47:51< shadowmaster> it did however affect several of the sponsored servers
20100406 17:47:53< Unnheulu> I'll google it
20100406 17:47:57< shadowmaster> channels cannot be DoSed.
20100406 17:48:07< Unnheulu> But the server can
20100406 17:48:44< shadowmaster> the thing is, staff were not going to disclose further information about the issue
20100406 17:48:49< shadowmaster> so don't waste your time googling it
20100406 17:49:09< shadowmaster> and it did cause a few sponsors to quit the network
20100406 17:49:12< Unnheulu> ok
20100406 17:49:33< shadowmaster> s/cause/prompt/
20100406 17:49:45< Unnheulu> I'll google for rumours^^
20100406 17:50:14< shadowmaster> I wouldn't waste my time with that either
20100406 17:50:22< Unnheulu> ok :P
20100406 17:50:30< King_Elendil> what does that mean: one_thing/another/then_another/ ?
20100406 17:50:50< shadowmaster> I watch and help in the network's official channel and have talked with several staff members before regarding different issues so I have an idea about what things in the network really are like...other websites, not so much
20100406 17:51:05< shadowmaster> there was a fake rumor about staff K-lining each other some time ago, for example. That didn't happen in reality.
20100406 17:51:14< Unnheulu> :D
20100406 17:51:18< Unnheulu> That sounds fun
20100406 17:51:21< shadowmaster> no, it is not
20100406 17:51:22< Blarumyrran> Unnheulu, I wouldn't waste my time on searching that very deeply if I don't want black helicopters with cia squads appearing
20100406 17:51:30< Unnheulu> lawl
20100406 17:51:37< Unnheulu> CIA?
20100406 17:51:42< Unnheulu> Don't you mean MI5?
20100406 17:52:07< Unnheulu> :P
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20100406 17:52:26< Blarumyrran> MI5 doesn't have black helicopters; it had only Bond
20100406 17:52:34< Unnheulu> fair enough :P
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20100406 17:55:49< Unnheulu> yikes
20100406 17:55:54< Unnheulu> they're after me already
20100406 17:56:03< Central_Intellig> Unnheulu: I am an agent from the CIA
20100406 17:56:52 * Central_Intellig starts tracking devices...
20100406 17:57:07< shadowmaster> Central_Intellig: hi King_Elendil 
20100406 17:57:16< Central_Intellig> lol crap!
20100406 17:57:30< Central_Intellig> how?
20100406 17:57:37< Unnheulu> 20100406 15:40:50-!- King_Elendil [~King_Elen@75.143.233.138] has joined #wesnoth
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20100406 17:58:30< shadowmaster> I used /who actually
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20100406 17:58:42< Unnheulu> oh...
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20100406 17:58:48< Unnheulu> :P
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20100406 17:59:32 * Unnheulu forgot rhonda's blog address :(
20100406 17:59:58< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: http://rhonda.deb.at/blog/
20100406 18:00:05< Unnheulu> thanks :P
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20100406 18:01:54< Unnheulu> does the patch work? :P
20100406 18:02:11< shadowmaster> I haven't tested it.
20100406 18:02:14< Unnheulu> ok :P
20100406 18:02:18< shadowmaster> If you watched #wesnoth-umc-dev you'd know I'm busy
20100406 18:02:44< Unnheulu> ok
20100406 18:02:52< Unnheulu> sorry :P
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20100406 18:03:18< Unnheulu> mainlining dead water?
20100406 18:04:01< shadowmaster> exactly, but the mainline SVN repo's host went MIA
20100406 18:04:35< Gambit> King_Elendil: spelling correction
20100406 18:04:46< King_Elendil> what?
20100406 18:04:52< Gambit> s/typo/what he really meant
20100406 18:05:23< King_Elendil> oh, what does the "s" mean though?
20100406 18:05:24< Unnheulu> Are the trolls friendly with the saurians?
20100406 18:05:30< King_Elendil> no
20100406 18:05:30< Gambit> s for spelling.
20100406 18:05:44< King_Elendil> lol just kidding IDK
20100406 18:06:05< shadowmaster> King_Elendil: "substitution"
20100406 18:06:11< King_Elendil> oh
20100406 18:06:17< ancestral> :)
20100406 18:06:20< shadowmaster> it's a sed operation and a perl quote like operator
20100406 18:06:38< shadowmaster> and it takes a regexp as the first argument
20100406 18:06:50< King_Elendil> hello ancestral
20100406 18:07:00< ancestral> Hey
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20100406 18:08:07< ancestral> https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?15803
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20100406 18:10:24< King_Elendil> I haven't done anything since we last talked. IIRC you were going to send me something
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20100406 18:12:06< ancestral> Yes
20100406 18:12:17< ancestral> I was working on something and then
20100406 18:12:19< Unnheulu> same ip King_Elendil
20100406 18:12:25< ancestral> realized it was crap
20100406 18:13:15< Gambit> CIA is a bot no?
20100406 18:13:18< ancestral> So I have absolutely no idea how to get the unit tree and descriptions so they work seemlessly together
20100406 18:13:18< Rhonda> Unnheulu: You also might be interested in http://identi.ca/group/wesnoth  :)
20100406 18:13:27< Rhonda> Gambit: Yes, see cia.vc
20100406 18:13:30< Gambit> terrible name choic.
20100406 18:13:44< King_Elendil> Sorry, Shadowmaster, that was something that was already started. It just took a while to connect
20100406 18:13:49< Rhonda> Gambit: You think so? There is also a KGB bot.
20100406 18:13:50< shadowmaster> Gambit: says you.
20100406 18:14:02< Gambit> no I mean for King_Elendil to have picked it ;)
20100406 18:14:09< Rhonda> Interestingly KGB does mostly do the same that CIA does.
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20100406 18:14:34< King_Elendil> it was an old joke on Unnheulu
20100406 18:15:08< King_Elendil> gtg bye all
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20100406 18:16:50< Gambit> Rhonda: that is lol.
20100406 18:16:55< Gambit> But I bet CIA does it better. :o
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20100406 18:18:02< Rhonda> Can't, KGB is written in perl. :P
20100406 18:18:42< Gambit> Of course a coldfusion bot would be the best...
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20100406 18:26:02< icelus> in a multiplayer game has anyone seen this behaviour:
20100406 18:26:09< icelus> you attack someone's unit
20100406 18:26:18< icelus> uh wait
20100406 18:26:22< icelus> someone attacks your unit
20100406 18:26:30< icelus> your unit kills it in defense
20100406 18:26:45< icelus> and they got to choose how your unit levels?
20100406 18:26:52< icelus> ie what it advances to
20100406 18:27:05< icelus> does that definitely not happen or is it so rare either way no-one knows
20100406 18:27:11< Gambit> Are you sure they got to choose? :\
20100406 18:27:14< [NallyWhacker]> I have not seen that happen, but I'm a newbie
20100406 18:27:18< [NallyWhacker]> relatively
20100406 18:27:24< Gambit> The AI chooses in that situation I believe.
20100406 18:27:39< Gambit> The game picks one.
20100406 18:27:42< icelus> ok cool
20100406 18:27:43< [NallyWhacker]> I have seen that, what Gambit said
20100406 18:29:37< Blarumyrran> not AI, just randomly
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20100406 18:29:48< Blarumyrran> I think.
20100406 18:29:51< icelus> so you've definitely seen a human controlled defender auto change
20100406 18:29:59< icelus> i',m just scanning this code its a bit confusing
20100406 18:30:04< icelus> exactly what outcomes play out
20100406 18:30:14< Unnheulu|Laptop> Wait
20100406 18:30:16< icelus> there's no test for whether the side is networked
20100406 18:30:25< icelus> it just checks if its a human player
20100406 18:30:30< Unnheulu|Laptop> I just realised, I thought the background in wesnoth was kitties pictures?
20100406 18:30:36< icelus> but otoh i can't be certain this is the only code
20100406 18:30:52< Blarumyrran> Unnheulu|Laptop, only for a very brief while, I think
20100406 18:31:07< icelus> oh nvm you're right thanks
20100406 18:31:13< icelus> problem solved
20100406 18:31:20< shadowmaster> Unnheulu|Laptop: yes and it was Dave's fault ;)
20100406 18:32:09< Gambit> kitties?
20100406 18:32:35< shadowmaster> he means "kitty's"
20100406 18:32:36< Unnheulu|Laptop> kitty's :/
20100406 18:32:52< Gambit> oh okay. :\
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20100406 18:50:24< shadowmaster> hoftel keeps trying to contact me at times I'm not around
20100406 18:50:30< shadowmaster> *sigh*
20100406 18:50:47< Unnheulu> He needs to know where you can get a .deb and a .rpm :P
20100406 18:51:02< shadowmaster> I don't know why I'm supposed to know that.
20100406 18:51:59< Gambit> Because you're omniscient. You're shadowmaster.
20100406 18:52:14< Unnheulu> Just so you know why he's contacting you :P
20100406 18:52:15-!- [NallyWhacker] is now known as [AfK]
20100406 18:52:18< Gambit> If you don't know, then who does?
20100406 18:52:36< Unnheulu> the church of shadowmaster
20100406 18:52:39< Gambit> You're omniomni :o
20100406 18:52:46< Gambit> You're all of everything.
20100406 18:52:49< Gambit> rofl.
20100406 18:53:46< Gambit> Unnheulu: that thread would have worked had he not *just* locked one almost just like it.
20100406 18:53:56< Unnheulu> Perhaps^^
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20100406 18:55:03< Unnheulu> >.>
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20100406 18:55:15 * Unnheulu forgot you can't use custom art in the campaign image
20100406 18:55:21< Unnheulu> hiah Darker_Dreams
20100406 18:55:22< Gambit> Yes you can.
20100406 18:55:27< Unnheulu> Can you?
20100406 18:55:30< Darker_Dreams> hello Unnheulu
20100406 18:55:33< Gambit> Not on the addon server.
20100406 18:55:37< Unnheulu> oh >.>
20100406 18:55:38< Gambit> But for the one in the campaign menu.
20100406 18:55:50< Unnheulu> Darker_Dreams: didn't you ever do something on libregamewiki?
20100406 18:55:57< Gambit> So I guess it depends on what exactly what you meant.
20100406 18:55:58< Darker_Dreams> may have.
20100406 18:56:15< Darker_Dreams> Unnheulu: I know I looked at it at one point, don't remember if I did something there. it's very possible.
20100406 18:56:19< Unnheulu> Gambit: But, isn't the one on the add-on server the same?
20100406 18:56:25< Unnheulu> Darker_Dreams: I believe you did
20100406 18:56:26< Gambit> Nooo
20100406 18:56:34< Gambit> The one on the addon server is defined in the pbl.
20100406 18:56:35< Unnheulu> oh >.>
20100406 18:57:04< Unnheulu> Darker_Dreams: I'm looking now^_^
20100406 18:57:07< Darker_Dreams> <.<     >.>             >.<
20100406 18:57:23< Gambit> Don't forget <.>
20100406 18:57:31< Gambit> Sad old man emoticon.
20100406 18:57:41< Gambit> Squinting sad old man.
20100406 18:58:21< Unnheulu> Wow, I'm still the 4th highest contributer to libergamewiki
20100406 18:58:50< Unnheulu> http://libregamewiki.org/User:Darker_Dreams
20100406 18:58:56< Unnheulu> Darker_Dreams: whats peragro?
20100406 18:59:34< Darker_Dreams> http://www.peragro.org/
20100406 19:00:05< Unnheulu> In a nutshelL? :P
20100406 19:00:10< Unnheulu> *nutshell
20100406 19:00:11< Darker_Dreams> Unnheulu: it's a project that's going very slowly ;-)
20100406 19:00:17< Unnheulu> ah, kay
20100406 19:00:43< Darker_Dreams> free, open source persistant MMORPG.
20100406 19:01:01< Unnheulu> ok :P
20100406 19:02:35< Darker_Dreams> right now, however, it's an island floating in a very small stretch of water with nothing on it and a bunch of other subsytems waiting on some core systems to be entirely rewritten.
20100406 19:02:43-!- Unnheulu is now known as Unnheufk
20100406 19:02:55< Unnheufk> ok...
20100406 19:02:57< Unnheufk> sounds cool
20100406 19:02:59-!- Unnheufk is now known as Unnheulu
20100406 19:03:11< Darker_Dreams> hopefully it will be... someday.
20100406 19:03:50< Unnheulu> can you swim?
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20100406 19:07:58< Darker_Dreams> Unnheulu: not currently.
20100406 19:08:06< Unnheulu> Can you walk in water?
20100406 19:08:13< Darker_Dreams> right now it's more like walking, and just happening to be under the water level.
20100406 19:08:23< Darker_Dreams> eventually there will be swimming.
20100406 19:08:30< Unnheulu> So you can walk into the middle of the ocean?
20100406 19:09:08< Darker_Dreams> well, I'm not sure I'd call what we've got in game an "ocean" but, atm, sure.
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20100406 19:59:00< Gambit> All units will now need an "eaten by ghast animation" so it can look like their being swallowed.
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20100406 20:02:43< King_Elendil> The WML noob is back!
20100406 20:03:45< King_Elendil> now I got a complex error message that says "An error due to possibly invalid WML occured
20100406 20:09:27< Unnheulu> don't worry
20100406 20:09:31< Unnheulu> Gambit will answer anything
20100406 20:09:58< shadowmaster> I don't think he'll always give the right answer though, no
20100406 20:11:40< King_Elendil> "The error mesage is: Amap without a header is not supported When reporting this bug please include the following error message: Condition '! (header_offset == std::string::npos || comma_offset <header_offset)' failed at /users/ben/projects/wesnoth/macOSX/../src/map.cpp:162 in function 'read'."
20100406 20:11:53< King_Elendil> *A map
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20100406 20:12:06< Unnheulu> shadowmaster: IftU is too hard for me :(
20100406 20:12:10< Rigor> hi all im back
20100406 20:12:17< Unnheulu> Easy difficulty, first scenario, and I've already lost
20100406 20:12:19< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: and what about that?
20100406 20:12:20< Unnheulu> hiah
20100406 20:12:30< Unnheulu> It's toooo hard :P
20100406 20:12:36< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: funny, because some people complain that it's too easy
20100406 20:12:42< Unnheulu> ...
20100406 20:12:50< Unnheulu> Is easy harder than normal then?
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20100406 20:13:11< shadowmaster> more unbalanced in favor of the player, at least
20100406 20:13:21< Unnheulu> Wow
20100406 20:13:37< Unnheulu> And I'm still struggling, I must be really bad
20100406 20:13:46< shadowmaster> try normal if you think it's the inverse, I'm curious
20100406 20:13:54< Unnheulu> hehe ;)
20100406 20:13:59< shadowmaster> but I'm not going to fix it.
20100406 20:14:01 * Unnheulu runs out of money to early
20100406 20:14:09< Unnheulu> Yeh, I know, you hate it ;P
20100406 20:14:19< shadowmaster> it's not "hate"
20100406 20:14:33< shadowmaster> "hate" is a very strong word
20100406 20:14:46< Unnheulu> That's what you said on your blog ;-P
20100406 20:15:10< shadowmaster> right
20100406 20:15:13< Unnheulu> Is it random whether your "friend" is a hunter or a fighter?
20100406 20:15:28< shadowmaster> yes, and it can also be an archer, and it can be male or female
20100406 20:15:38< Unnheulu> ooh...awesome
20100406 20:15:40< shadowmaster> gods, I give you a free unit and you still can't beat it...
20100406 20:15:48< Unnheulu> ^^
20100406 20:15:55< Unnheulu> He's not loyal though :/
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20100406 20:16:20< shadowmaster> you still saved its recruit cost
20100406 20:16:27< Unnheulu> I guess
20100406 20:16:44< Unnheulu> If I don't beat it this time I'm gonna debug myself some more cash :/
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20100406 20:17:06< Unnheulu> Wow, falcons on unpassable mountains hasn't worked
20100406 20:17:55< Unnheulu> Nooo, I'm out of cash :(
20100406 20:18:06< Unnheulu> I only recruited 16 units :(
20100406 20:18:24< shadowmaster> I have beaten it with much less than 16 units
20100406 20:18:31< Unnheulu> :/
20100406 20:18:40< shadowmaster> well, not less than 8
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20100406 20:19:14< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: in which post did I mention "hate" anyway?
20100406 20:19:21< Unnheulu> I'm not sure
20100406 20:19:28< shadowmaster> never mind ,I can use the searc function myself :/
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20100406 20:19:37< Unnheulu> ;P
20100406 20:19:44< shadowmaster> wow, I say "hate" quite a lot
20100406 20:20:28< shadowmaster> the search function doesn't check for word boundaries though
20100406 20:20:31 * shadowmaster rolls eyes
20100406 20:24:37< Unnheulu> shadowmaster: okok, you don't say hate :P
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20100406 20:24:47< Unnheulu> But, you do say despise ;)
20100406 20:25:06< shadowmaster> only once
20100406 20:25:19< King_Elendil> sorry, i had to eat lunch :p
20100406 20:25:25< Unnheulu> fair enough
20100406 20:25:32< Unnheulu> King_Elendil: I just had dinner...
20100406 20:25:39< King_Elendil> so did anyone have any advise?
20100406 20:26:28< Unnheulu> 10 units left
20100406 20:26:35< Unnheulu> 1gold
20100406 20:26:41 * shadowmaster hasn't had lunch yet
20100406 20:26:50< Unnheulu> at half two?
20100406 20:27:35 * Unnheulu always finds it weird when, with the choice between a leader and a normal unit, the ai will always attack the normal unit
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20100406 20:29:23< King_Elendil> now, your back
20100406 20:29:57< King_Elendil> Gambit: you busy?
20100406 20:31:05< King_Elendil> am I disconnected in some odd way?
20100406 20:31:15< Unnheulu> no
20100406 20:31:20< Rigor> question
20100406 20:31:31< King_Elendil> oh good
20100406 20:31:40< Rigor> when you leave the game, the server says "bal left the game" and there can be no dispute about that right ?
20100406 20:31:41< Unnheulu> 9 units
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20100406 20:32:26< Unnheulu> 8 units
20100406 20:32:55< Rigor> hullo
20100406 20:32:56< Unnheulu> enemy has CTK at my leader
20100406 20:33:02< Rigor> just a short question
20100406 20:33:09< Unnheulu> but it didn't :/
20100406 20:33:15< Unnheulu> I've lost
20100406 20:33:26< Rigor> you leave the game and the server says u left, and if u disconnect the server does never ever say you left the game right ?
20100406 20:33:27< Unnheulu> I'm debugging myself more cash
20100406 20:34:17< Unnheulu> Actually, no, new tactics
20100406 20:35:49< Unnheulu> I'm gonna head to the left, rather than marching through a battlefield
20100406 20:38:31< Unnheulu> 18 troops marching towards the enemy
20100406 20:43:15< Unnheulu> 13 troops where I had 8 last time
20100406 20:44:13< King_Elendil> that's an improvement...
20100406 20:45:09< Gambit> King_Elendil: Still need me?
20100406 20:45:24< King_Elendil> maybe
20100406 20:45:51< King_Elendil> did you see the error message that I posted just a little while ago?
20100406 20:46:15< Gambit> No
20100406 20:46:39< King_Elendil> @ 2:03
20100406 20:47:28< Gambit> 2 things.
20100406 20:47:31< Gambit> One it says to report it.
20100406 20:47:41< King_Elendil> ever seen that before?
20100406 20:47:44< Gambit> And two, shadowmaster I am right more than I'm wrong!
20100406 20:47:50< Gambit> King_Elendil: Not that particular error.
20100406 20:47:58< Gambit> But there are lots of errors that ask to be reported.
20100406 20:48:20< King_Elendil> well, that was in 1.6.5, and with a campaign that I made so...
20100406 20:48:56< Gambit> I would copy/paste terrain bit of the map into another map file.
20100406 20:49:06< King_Elendil> To tell the truth, I've never reported an error before
20100406 20:49:09 * shadowmaster proves Gambit's wrongness using the axiom of Gambit's behavior
20100406 20:49:16< King_Elendil> OK I'll try that
20100406 20:49:27< Gambit> My behaviour has an axiom?
20100406 20:49:32< Gambit> Do tell.
20100406 20:50:09< shadowmaster> Gambit: not right now, I've got to go to class.
20100406 20:50:31< Gambit> You know you'll have to hear about this again right?
20100406 20:50:46< shadowmaster> meanwhile you can admire our awesomeness here: http://shadowm.rewound.net/blog/?p=59
20100406 20:51:31< Rigor> nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnno cool
20100406 20:51:36< Rigor> dead water was ALWAYS FUN
20100406 20:51:45< Gambit> I've seen awesomer.
20100406 20:51:53< Gambit> Congrats to him though.
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20100406 20:52:23< shadowmaster> Gambit: not to him, to us for coping with these ... interesting people.
20100406 20:52:37< shadowmaster> add-on authors are not common people.
20100406 20:52:38 * King_Elendil tries out my scenario again...
20100406 20:52:48< shadowmaster> (therefore, common people are not add-on authors? uh)
20100406 20:53:47< Rigor> uh
20100406 20:53:47< King_Elendil> Gambit: It didn't fix it
20100406 20:53:56< Rigor> how do u find another person through irc
20100406 20:54:00< Rigor> see if hes online or not
20100406 20:54:20< King_Elendil> maybe type his name?
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20100406 20:54:29< Rigor> and then ?
20100406 20:54:34< Rigor> i need the command
20100406 20:54:35< King_Elendil> like this Rigor
20100406 20:54:38< Rigor> pm or omething
20100406 20:54:49< Rigor>  /msg ?
20100406 20:54:52< King_Elendil> do you see a list of people?
20100406 20:55:06< Rigor> im not talking about this room
20100406 20:55:28< King_Elendil> oh, then I have no clue
20100406 20:55:31< Rigor> oh :D
20100406 20:56:08< King_Elendil> How long has everyone been playing wesnoth?
20100406 20:56:25< Rigor> 2-3 yrs
20100406 20:56:34< King_Elendil> about two-and-a-half years for me
20100406 20:56:55< King_Elendil> since 1.4 i think
20100406 20:57:27< King_Elendil> how about you xer?
20100406 20:58:02< King_Elendil> Unnheulu
20100406 20:58:08< Rigor> yes 1.4 was cool, though i started with 1.3.2
20100406 20:59:39< Rigor> im going on a littel dive
20100406 20:59:55< noy_> 6 years
20100406 21:00:09< Rigor> if by any chance tesafilmchen should be trying to message me tell him im playing something so im not constantly watching the chat
20100406 21:00:38< Rigor> however i dont even have audio notification if somebody is chatting with me, have to setup everything first ;)
20100406 21:01:48< King_Elendil> the link on this site (where I first found wesnoth) needs to be updated:http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/games/role_strategy/index3.html , about half-way down...
20100406 21:02:30< King_Elendil> Updated:  http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/games/role_strategy/index3.html
20100406 21:02:41< King_Elendil> sorry about that
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20100406 21:04:36< King_Elendil> I have a question, does anyone know why the newer wesnoth doesn't work on Mac OSX 10.3.9? Is it possible to make it work?
20100406 21:07:30< Gambit> King_Elendil: remake the map?
20100406 21:08:14< Gambit> It needs a little bit of jiggely pokery.
20100406 21:10:14< Gambit> shadowmaster: Does that mean it takes a special sort of person to make an add-on? ;)
20100406 21:11:00< King_Elendil> what?
20100406 21:11:17< Soliton> Rigor: when the server says a player left then he actively/purposely left the game. when it say he disconnected he might not have done it on purpose (i.e. disconnect).
20100406 21:11:26< King_Elendil> "Jiggely pokery"?
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20100406 21:21:26< Rigor> the soliton
20100406 21:21:32< Rigor> thX
20100406 21:22:06< Rigor> i knew that but i needed a proof ;) hehe
20100406 21:22:36< Soliton> no idea what that means.
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20100406 21:23:32< SpoOkyMagician> hello zookeeper
20100406 21:24:34< SpoOkyMagician> oops forgot to say "hi all"
20100406 21:25:20< Rigor> what i actually wanted to say was i needed somebody who would say exactely that
20100406 21:25:32< Rigor> but then i wanted to say it a bit shorter
20100406 21:25:42< Rigor> and ended up talking thrice as much 
20100406 21:25:53< Rigor> hi
20100406 21:25:55< Soliton> alright.
20100406 21:26:31< zookeeper> SpoOkyMagician, hello
20100406 21:26:56< SpoOkyMagician> i was told you/myth came to an agreement?
20100406 21:27:34< Soliton> Rigor: if there are any ladder issues regarding who left a game when and whatnot you can ask me to check the server logs.
20100406 21:27:37< SpoOkyMagician> err well, you know what i mean
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20100406 21:29:22< zookeeper> SpoOkyMagician, well, he seemed happy enough with my proposal to get it committed and seeing in 1.9.0 if there are any remaining issues
20100406 21:29:32< Rigor> i actually looked at the replay because i was curious how they ended up rating each other 4 times with 1-2 conduct
20100406 21:29:44< SpoOkyMagician> myth mentioned about some minor problems?
20100406 21:29:49< zookeeper> that is, after i've looked at it a bit more (in a day or two)...i already spotted iss...yeah
20100406 21:29:54< Rigor> but thanks for the offer, i might use it once :)
20100406 21:30:15< zookeeper> macros in translatable strings and redundant macroification of some things, like the basic scenario definition..
20100406 21:30:31< SpoOkyMagician> yea most of them were not required but meh
20100406 21:31:15< SpoOkyMagician> they can easily be removed and it should work
20100406 21:31:19< Unnheulu> humm
20100406 21:31:20< Unnheulu> oh
20100406 21:31:24< SpoOkyMagician> (except for like 1-2)
20100406 21:31:31< Unnheulu> king_eldenil, (or w/e) 1.2.4
20100406 21:31:37< Unnheulu> *king elendil
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20100406 21:31:55< SpoOkyMagician> so yea, it would be going into 1.9.*?
20100406 21:32:04< zookeeper> yes
20100406 21:32:14< SpoOkyMagician> ok cool. can't wait. XD
20100406 21:32:17< SpoOkyMagician> tyvm
20100406 21:33:49< SpoOkyMagician> anyway, i gotta get back to UGS... ttyl all.
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20100406 22:48:28< PeterPorty> uhh.... hi
20100406 22:48:51< shadowmaster> hi there
20100406 22:49:00< PeterPorty> ShadowMaster!
20100406 22:49:04< PeterPorty> hi :)
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20100406 22:50:13< PetePorty> sooo... how r u guys?
20100406 22:50:56< PetePorty> hey shadowmaster, why did you lock your thread!? I totally wanted to post more!
20100406 22:51:07< shadowmaster> what thread of mine?
20100406 22:51:36< PetePorty> "I Propose a Toast"
20100406 22:52:02< PetePorty> the one gambit did
20100406 22:52:16< shadowmaster> that one's author is Gambit, not shikadibot 
20100406 22:52:20< shadowmaster> er, not shadowmaster 
20100406 22:52:26< PetePorty> -.-
20100406 22:52:30< shadowmaster> so yeah, I didn't lock *my* thread.
20100406 22:52:37< Gambit> He locked a thread about him.
20100406 22:52:40< PetePorty> I'll just ignore that
20100406 22:52:49< PetePorty> yeah, we were praising you
20100406 22:52:56< Gambit> shadowmaster: back from class?
20100406 22:52:57< shadowmaster> you know, the "shadowmaster this" and "shadowmaster that" is totally unjustified
20100406 22:53:08< Gambit> Time to elaborate on my axiom?
20100406 22:53:09< shadowmaster> if there's anyone who's done a lot of work for the forums, that person's Turuk
20100406 22:53:19< Gambit> Indeed.
20100406 22:53:22< PetePorty> OMG today I had this awefuly difficult english test...
20100406 22:53:23< shadowmaster> Gambit: sorry, I was hungry and ate it. I don't remember what it was now :(
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20100406 22:53:59< PetePorty> thats why english sux
20100406 22:54:03< shadowmaster> It took me much research to decide that it was indeed an axiom...and I finished it last night
20100406 22:54:47< Gambit> Well why don't you send over your notes? ;()
20100406 22:55:35< shadowmaster> because they were in the same paper that's in my stomach right now.
20100406 22:55:58< shadowmaster> anyway, I now depart towards the beautiful western horzon.
20100406 22:56:21< shadowmaster> wish me luck in my quest to find my home again amongst the central valley hills
20100406 22:56:33< PetePorty> O.o
20100406 22:56:36 * Gambit grumbles
20100406 22:56:40< PetePorty> good luck
20100406 22:57:01< PetePorty> *cough* plaza italia *cough*
20100406 22:57:06< PetePorty> :)
20100406 22:57:16< shadowmaster> no, not in the capital
20100406 22:57:24< PetePorty> orly
20100406 22:57:33< shadowmaster> anyway, even if you suck at English on school, you can still learn on your own. That's what I did.
20100406 22:57:51< shadowmaster> Look at where I am! Stuck in a stupid IRC channel with an annoying cricket on my ear.
20100406 22:58:02< PetePorty> yeah... I'm pretty good compared to my classmates its just that they SUCK at it...
20100406 22:58:11< PetePorty> yay!
20100406 22:58:24< PetePorty> I'm a Shadowmaster wannabe!
20100406 22:59:12< Gambit> As a semi-interesting side note; my user name is TheCricket in a variety of places.
20100406 22:59:22< PetePorty> O.o!
20100406 22:59:26< shadowmaster> Gambit: I know
20100406 22:59:27< PetePorty> You kiddin right?
20100406 22:59:36< Gambit> shadowmaster: you do not. :\
20100406 22:59:39< shadowmaster> it wasn't a random metaphor
20100406 22:59:42< PetePorty> U are THECricket!?
20100406 23:00:01< Gambit> PetePorty: ?
20100406 23:00:16< PetePorty> Is that really you!?
20100406 23:00:19< PetePorty> OMG!!!!
20100406 23:00:29< Gambit> :\
20100406 23:00:38< Gambit> I don't get it.
20100406 23:00:48< PetePorty> O.o
20100406 23:01:10< PetePorty> u r -THE- TheCricket....
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20100406 23:01:56< PetePorty> this is...
20100406 23:02:00< PetePorty> incredible
20100406 23:02:03< Gambit> No. Because in many many places the name is taken.
20100406 23:02:16< Gambit> So it *****REALLLY****** depends.
20100406 23:02:24< PetePorty> nah, jk never heard of it...
20100406 23:02:29< PetePorty> :D
20100406 23:02:31< Gambit> indeed
20100406 23:02:55 * Gambit goes back to browsing around spriters resource for more things to rip off for a non-wesnoth project.
20100406 23:03:00< PetePorty> I thought shadowmaster lived in santiago :(
20100406 23:03:09< PetePorty> ·.·
20100406 23:05:10< Gambit> He lied.
20100406 23:05:17< PetePorty> orly?
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20100406 23:05:23< Gambit> Do you think he wants us cooks knowing where he lives? ;()
20100406 23:05:36< PetePorty> well, not that hard
20100406 23:06:00< PetePorty> I just need to go into vtr's database and search for his ip...
20100406 23:06:13< PetePorty> never done that, but I guess it's not that hard....
20100406 23:16:43< PetePorty> ok, maybe it is....
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20100406 23:36:36< Gambit> PetePorty: just look him up in the phone book.
20100406 23:36:48< Gambit> Ignacio R. Morelle
20100406 23:36:58< Gambit> Get his address, mail him a letter.
20100406 23:37:16< PetePorty> yeah, I though about it, but the R is.... well, I guess I'll look anyway...
20100406 23:38:05< Blarumyrran> Rodriguez?
20100406 23:38:26< PetePorty> nope, I think thats his second name... but not sure...
20100406 23:38:58< Gambit> "I know where you live." - Pete
20100406 23:39:00< Gambit> lol
20100406 23:39:05< PetePorty> well, maybe I can find some info from the shadowmaster's lair...
20100406 23:39:09< PetePorty> lol
20100406 23:39:19< Gambit> Just send that to every Ignacia Morelle in Santiago.
20100406 23:39:24< Gambit> *Ignacio
20100406 23:39:51< PetePorty> ok...
20100406 23:40:02< PetePorty> but he just said he isn't from santiago
20100406 23:40:47< Gambit> So?
20100406 23:48:32< PetePorty> ok.... didnt work... he's not there, maybe thats not his name...
20100406 23:48:53< Gambit> Or he still lives with his parents.
20100406 23:49:01< Gambit> Or he's unlisted.
20100406 23:49:07< Gambit> Being a celeberty and all.
20100406 23:49:40< PetePorty> hmmm maybe...
20100406 23:50:22< Blarumyrran> Riquelme!
20100406 23:50:59< PetePorty> do you know his fav football team... or his age at least?
20100406 23:51:40< Blarumyrran> Yeah dude, I know what he eats for breakfest
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20100406 23:52:37< PetePorty> ok... that migh help
20100406 23:52:41< Blarumyrran> But as little as I know of spanish names (neve met a spanish-speaking person in my life), Riquelme sounds sort of unusual, it should be a good lead
20100406 23:52:43< PetePorty> hi spooky
20100406 23:52:50< Blarumyrran> What do you need to know it for, anyway?
20100406 23:53:05< PetePorty> uhhh... to find him
20100406 23:53:10< PetePorty> search and destry
20100406 23:53:11< PetePorty> lol
20100406 23:53:16< PetePorty> destroy*
20100406 23:53:18< Gambit> Search and rescue!
20100406 23:53:32< PetePorty> if you say so...
20100406 23:53:37< Blarumyrran> Search and help repairing the house
20100406 23:53:46< SpoOkyMagician> sorry im multi tasking
20100406 23:53:47< PetePorty> gambit, do you know ANYTHING personal about him?
20100406 23:53:49< SpoOkyMagician> hello
20100406 23:54:00< Gambit> PetePorty: He dislikes fanboys.
20100406 23:54:03< Blarumyrran> PetePorty, this is getting sort of weird
20100406 23:54:13< Gambit> his favorite color is not purple
20100406 23:54:13< PetePorty> : (
20100406 23:54:18< PetePorty> ok...
20100406 23:54:25< Gambit> his favorite number is not 6378.
20100406 23:54:33< PetePorty> I need stuff he likes, not dislike...
20100406 23:54:34< Gambit> or 6379
20100406 23:54:42< Gambit> He doesn't really dislike them.
20100406 23:54:45< Gambit> He's indifferent.
20100406 23:54:47< Blarumyrran> His favorite color is probably not yellow
20100406 23:54:55< SpoOkyMagician> who are you talking about?
20100406 23:55:00< Blarumyrran> Since there are quite few people who's favorite color is yellow
20100406 23:55:25< Blarumyrran> whose*
20100406 23:55:41< Gambit> His birthday is not today.
20100406 23:55:43< PetePorty> my sis likes yellow, it's her fav color...ç
20100406 23:55:45< Gambit> Today is his unbirthday.
20100406 23:55:49< PetePorty> GAMBIT!
20100406 23:55:54< PetePorty> come on!
20100406 23:55:56< Gambit> It's also his unwedding anniversery.
20100406 23:55:58< PetePorty> not helping!
20100406 23:56:03< PetePorty> O.o
20100406 23:56:08< PetePorty> he is married?
20100406 23:56:19< Blarumyrran> PetePorty, your chances are getting slimmer now :o
20100406 23:56:41< PetePorty> yeah, but I'm pretty sure gambit's just messing with me..
20100406 23:56:54< Gambit> PetePorty: oh I remembered soemthing serious!
20100406 23:57:00< PetePorty> ok
20100406 23:57:00< Gambit> He has a bookshelf outside his bathroom door!
20100406 23:57:01< PetePorty> go
20100406 23:57:01< SpoOkyMagician> you didnt answer my question... who are you talking about?
20100406 23:57:03< Gambit> Right outside.
20100406 23:57:03< Blarumyrran> That is good, hope is good
20100406 23:57:10< PetePorty> shadowmaster
20100406 23:57:13< Gambit> Because it fell over in front of the door.
20100406 23:57:19< PetePorty> lol
20100406 23:57:20< SpoOkyMagician> oh?
20100406 23:57:21< Gambit> During the earthquake it locked him in the bathroom he said!
20100406 23:57:25< PetePorty> and he couldnt come out?
20100406 23:57:29< PetePorty> lol
20100406 23:57:43< SpoOkyMagician> (hides from shadowmaster)
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20100406 23:57:47< PetePorty> but the earthquake was at 3:30 am...
20100406 23:57:58< PetePorty> wth was he doing there?
20100406 23:58:07< Gambit> Inventing the flux capacitor.
20100406 23:58:08< PetePorty> uhhh...
20100406 23:58:10< Gambit> I dunno. He didn't say.
20100406 23:58:12< PetePorty> oh..
20100406 23:58:16< Gambit> I assumed... going to the bathroom :\
20100406 23:58:26< PetePorty> yeah... don't think so
20100406 23:58:54< Gambit> It might not help you out
20100406 23:58:56< Gambit> but it's a real fact.
20100406 23:58:58< Gambit> :)
20100406 23:58:58< PetePorty> there are some ignacio morelli, but not ignacio merelle
20100406 23:59:07< PetePorty> ok..
20100406 23:59:08< Blarumyrran> PetePorty, you know, some people would've called the police by now
20100406 23:59:13< Gambit> Unless he lied about being locked in the bathroom by a book shelf.
20100406 23:59:16< PetePorty> well, anything hr DOES like?
20100406 23:59:20< Gambit> Blarumyrran: indeed.
20100406 23:59:27< Gambit> How does what he like help you find him? :\
20100406 23:59:31< PetePorty> nah, don't think he'd lie about that..
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