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20100409 00:24:41< PetePorty> hey noy, a guy sent a message for you in the mp lobby.... he said you are an *** ****er....
20100409 00:25:07< PetePorty> he said I should tell you his name is renigade
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20100409 00:28:39< King_Elendil> Shadowmaster, do you still have a headache?
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20100409 00:37:26< King_Elendil> This is a really interesting conversation, I can barely keep up with it :p lol
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20100409 00:43:36< Gambit> Sucker is a bad word?
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20100409 00:45:41< PetePorty> uuhhh... in this context... yeah
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20100409 01:03:01< noy_> Gambit: just wait till I post
20100409 01:03:53< Gambit> And now he's going all self righteous
20100409 01:14:14< PetePorty> : )
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20100409 01:15:51< PetePorty> noy_: are you gonna post on it? I'm waiting to see your rtesponse :)
20100409 01:16:00< PetePorty> response*
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20100409 01:20:50< noy_> Gambit PetePorty there you go
20100409 01:20:58< PetePorty> k
20100409 01:21:00< PetePorty> thx
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20100409 01:24:16< Gambit> They always make things worse when they hide what really went down.
20100409 01:24:39< Gambit> He expects sympathy from other users when he was quite literally "asking for it"?
20100409 01:26:30< PetePorty> RAWR, totally cool comment... you rock noy
20100409 01:26:39< PetePorty> i liked it... a lot :)
20100409 01:27:11< PetePorty> anyway.. as he DID ask for it 1 day seems too little...but... well, it's your call...
20100409 01:27:40< Gambit> noy_: Are banned users able to see how long they're banned or do they have to request that info?
20100409 01:27:42< noy_> If he comes back on and causes trouble
20100409 01:27:47< noy_> I'll ban him again
20100409 01:27:56< noy_> I usually write it in the ban notes for them to know
20100409 01:28:01< noy_> but they don't
20100409 01:28:14< PetePorty> hmmm...
20100409 01:28:36< Gambit> Seems like something that should be in the login"You've been banned" type message.
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20100409 01:28:56< PetePorty> I love a good "mod kikkin a troll" incident...
20100409 01:29:06< Gambit> Worth a feature request? Or is that something that you guys aren't interested in ding?
20100409 01:29:10< Gambit> *doing
20100409 01:29:59< Gambit> And now the back seat moderators join the thread :\
20100409 01:30:30< Gambit> well soon they will.
20100409 01:32:37< noy_> it might be
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20100409 01:33:20< PetePorty> I'm bored guys, any good vid you've seen lately?
20100409 01:33:40< Gambit> PetePorty: youtube search Tim Minchin - If I didn't have you
20100409 01:33:51< PetePorty> ok...
20100409 01:34:47< Gambit> or anything by WKUK.
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20100409 01:38:05< PetePorty> :( he speaks/sings so fast.... not being a native speaker makes understanding all of it a little hard...
20100409 01:38:12< PetePorty> but.. yeah, fun
20100409 01:42:38< PetePorty> kinda
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20100409 01:59:16< PetePorty> hey, the renigade is reading the post... so... he'll probably post some other ffunny thing for me! yay!
20100409 02:06:57< PetePorty> bbl, dinnertime... bye
20100409 02:11:46< shadowmaster> lucky you
20100409 02:11:53< shadowmaster> I've not eaten anything today.
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20100409 02:19:58< PetePorty> orly? wanna stop by and eat some?
20100409 02:20:04< PetePorty> it was pretty good
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20100409 02:23:35< shadowmaster> I guess I'll have scrambled eggs with bread and tea.
20100409 02:24:22< PetePorty> uhhh.... come here and get some pork n' potatoes...
20100409 02:25:41< Gambit> shadowmaster: just make sure you check your drink
20100409 02:26:13< PetePorty> 6 piscolas and youre done for the night...
20100409 02:29:38< PetePorty> ok, maybe 8, but no more than that
20100409 02:30:04< PetePorty> wesbot: hug petey boy
20100409 02:30:05 * wesbot hugs petey
20100409 02:30:09< PetePorty> yay!
20100409 02:31:52< PetePorty> brb
20100409 02:37:40< PetePorty> Everyone else has had more sex than me!
20100409 02:37:43< PetePorty> good vid...
20100409 02:37:49< PetePorty> back btw
20100409 02:37:54< shadowmaster> family friendly channel, please
20100409 02:38:18< shadowmaster> s/family friendly/mature/
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20100409 02:38:35< shadowmaster> (I mean mature as in mature and responsible behavior)
20100409 02:38:50< shadowmaster> oh, hi, Mr. Art Contributor.
20100409 02:38:52< PetePorty> but... its an animation....
20100409 02:38:58< Zerovirus> Are we talking about rulebreakers now?
20100409 02:39:01< Zerovirus> :P
20100409 02:39:02< PetePorty> and... its funny
20100409 02:39:06< PetePorty> ZERO!
20100409 02:39:08< shadowmaster> Zerovirus: kind of.
20100409 02:39:11< PetePorty> my fav artist!
20100409 02:39:11 * Zerovirus waves
20100409 02:39:23< PetePorty> not really, but... anyway...
20100409 02:39:37< Zerovirus> What, did you link to a naughty animation? Tsk tsk.
20100409 02:39:49< PetePorty> did you get the sword anim thingy started?
20100409 02:40:01< PetePorty> nope, i said it was a good vid, no link...
20100409 02:40:01< Zerovirus> ...
20100409 02:40:06< PetePorty> nope?
20100409 02:40:09< PetePorty> ok...
20100409 02:40:10< Zerovirus> So you're admitting it was naughty? :P
20100409 02:40:15< PetePorty> nope
20100409 02:40:21< PetePorty> it's a bunny...
20100409 02:40:25< PetePorty> it's rather sad...
20100409 02:40:28< Zerovirus> -envisions playboy bunny-
20100409 02:40:41< PetePorty> ok, I'll link you guys... wait, brb
20100409 02:40:49< PetePorty> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g18HdsJrI8o&feature=related
20100409 02:40:54< PetePorty> done
20100409 02:40:56< PetePorty> no wait
20100409 02:41:00< PetePorty> that wasnt it..
20100409 02:41:17< PetePorty> this one is it...
20100409 02:41:19< PetePorty> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE6jh2lxOIY
20100409 02:41:26 * PetePorty shuts up...
20100409 02:41:49< Zerovirus> Oookay.
20100409 02:42:11< Zerovirus> Both of those were equally weird.
20100409 02:42:24< Gambit> Even your dog.
20100409 02:42:30< PetePorty> well, the real one is a great one
20100409 02:43:17< PetePorty> If you can't apreciate it you'll stop being my second fav artist >: (
20100409 02:43:33< Gambit> Yeah! You'll get bumped up to first if you keep up this attitude.
20100409 02:43:53< PetePorty> nope, you'll become 3rd
20100409 02:43:54< Zerovirus> Who's first? tsi?
20100409 02:44:01< PetePorty> julian beiber
20100409 02:44:07< Gambit> TSI is pretty cool.
20100409 02:44:20< PetePorty> who the hell is tsi?
20100409 02:44:25< Zerovirus> :O
20100409 02:44:27< Zerovirus> What is this
20100409 02:44:30< Zerovirus> Blasphemy against my god?
20100409 02:44:37< Gambit> You blasphemed!
20100409 02:44:39< PetePorty> ok, ill look it up
20100409 02:44:43< PetePorty> geeze
20100409 02:44:55< Zerovirus> :P
20100409 02:45:03< Zerovirus> Aaanyways I'm kinda disappointed with society today.
20100409 02:45:03< shadowmaster> wow.
20100409 02:45:20< Gambit> Shadowmaster just got done playing GEB.
20100409 02:45:25< shadowmaster> I wish this world worked under the terms of the Clap Your Hands If You Believe trope
20100409 02:45:27< PetePorty> nope, didnt find it
20100409 02:45:49< shadowmaster> TSI and I would be smiting people from afar
20100409 02:45:53< Zerovirus> I painted this awesome painting for a propaganda poster contest... And it lost to a penis joke. I suppose this is why 4Chan still thrives in this world.
20100409 02:45:56< PetePorty> you cant say you dont like julian beiber...
20100409 02:46:08< shadowmaster> Zerovirus: pretty much
20100409 02:46:35< shadowmaster> immature humor makes so many people laugh like idiots
20100409 02:46:40< PetePorty> well, penis jokes are funny for stupid people
20100409 02:46:46< PetePorty> stupid = most
20100409 02:47:12< shadowmaster> Gambit: wait, i haven't played GEB
20100409 02:47:27< Gambit> ever? I figured :(
20100409 02:47:35< PetePorty> Gamibt, GEB tut doesnt work well
20100409 02:47:41< Zerovirus> Aanyways Gambit I need ideas for gold shiny spaceships >.>
20100409 02:47:41< Gambit> You should. It'll blow your hippy noodle.
20100409 02:47:43< shadowmaster> Gambit: the problem is that I never play MP
20100409 02:47:51< shadowmaster> well, once every 1.75 years
20100409 02:47:56< Zerovirus> I'm bored and irritated and I need some art to lighten myself up. Any ideas?
20100409 02:48:07< Gambit> shadowmaster: It was just funny narration because you said "wow" with nothing behind it (at that time)
20100409 02:48:22< PetePorty> *cough*sword anim for your sword guy*cough*
20100409 02:48:24< Gambit> You should play sometime shadowmaster. MP that is. Doesn't matter what.
20100409 02:48:31< shadowmaster> I know :(
20100409 02:48:44< Zerovirus> Who dares to defeat the almighty Shadowmaster?
20100409 02:48:51< shadowmaster> the limitation here is my Internet connection. I can get disconnected at any time for any length of time..
20100409 02:48:53< PetePorty> you could play against me
20100409 02:49:01< Zerovirus> Yannow we should start doing Chuck Norris jokes applied to Shadowmaster.
20100409 02:49:05< shadowmaster> it'd not be polite to play MP under such conditions
20100409 02:49:09< Gambit> GEB works well locally *cough*
20100409 02:49:17< PetePorty> O.o
20100409 02:49:19< Zerovirus> Then again I suppose that falls under the crude humor I was so irritated by :P
20100409 02:50:13< Gambit> shadowmaster: try Brotherhood of Light locally.
20100409 02:50:18< Gambit> really fun.
20100409 02:50:51< Gambit> Or play under an alias so you don't get labled a "quitter"
20100409 02:50:52< Gambit> lol
20100409 02:50:58< PetePorty> Shadowmaster can set ants on fire with a magnifying glass...
20100409 02:51:01< PetePorty> AT NIGHT!
20100409 02:51:10< shadowmaster> gods, no
20100409 02:51:11< shadowmaster> poor ants
20100409 02:51:18< Zerovirus> He is the master of shadows after all :P
20100409 02:51:19< Gambit> Underneath shadowmaster's beard there is no chin.
20100409 02:51:24< Gambit> Only... another fist :o
20100409 02:51:30< Zerovirus> Shadowmaster can use Debug in MP. :O
20100409 02:51:33< PetePorty> or play with someone who knows what might happen and you know would save the game to re-play it later..
20100409 02:51:46< shadowmaster> Zerovirus: har har. We all could for a while due to some mistake
20100409 02:51:54< Zerovirus> O rly? When?
20100409 02:51:57< PetePorty> yeah..
20100409 02:51:58< PetePorty> funny
20100409 02:51:59< shadowmaster> somewhere in 1.5.x
20100409 02:52:04< Zerovirus> Rofl
20100409 02:52:06< PetePorty> in dev version too
20100409 02:52:09< PetePorty> 1.7
20100409 02:52:09< Zerovirus> I can see the cult legends coming from that
20100409 02:52:23< shadowmaster> Zerovirus: what you really want is an achievement to the effect of "Mr X. can use Debug in MP...and never cause OOS!"
20100409 02:52:34< shadowmaster> now that would be an achievement of omnipotence.
20100409 02:52:46< Blarumyrram> overwriting the wesnoth.exe of the enemy through wml
20100409 02:52:55< Zerovirus> That'd be you fused with Turuk and Dave. :P
20100409 02:53:00< shadowmaster> s/use Debug/spawn random yetis and destroy units with them/
20100409 02:53:28< Zerovirus> Okay. Shadowmaster has the power to use Debug in MP. Dave has the power to prevent OOS. And, uh... turuk has the power to win every single time.
20100409 02:53:29< Blarumyrram> Sometimes I think yetis were first created because of debug
20100409 02:53:29< PetePorty> Shadowmaster will never have a heart attack. His heart isn't nearly foolish enough to attack him.
20100409 02:53:39< Zerovirus> By your powers together you summon CAPTAIN WESNOTH!
20100409 02:53:47< Zerovirus> (Or Captain Irdya, I'm not feeling particular.)
20100409 02:53:51< Blarumyrram> Because :create yeti is the shortest really-strong-unit-create there is
20100409 02:54:04< shadowmaster> Zerovirus: Irdya's always sounded like a female name to me :(
20100409 02:54:19< shadowmaster> maybe because in spanish it's "La Tierra" for Earth
20100409 02:54:30< Blarumyrram> It sounded like a weird name from the planet Esr
20100409 02:54:44< PetePorty> or maybe cuz there r no spanish male names ended on "a"
20100409 02:54:46< shadowmaster> Blarumyrram: I invented the damn name first
20100409 02:55:03< Blarumyrram> Well it's better than "thunderstone" I admit
20100409 02:55:21< shadowmaster> Thunderstone is esr's :P
20100409 02:55:29< Zerovirus> I'm trying to make a pun involving Thunderstone and Crack(ing) Rocks.
20100409 02:55:30< Blarumyrram> I know!
20100409 02:55:35< PetePorty> Shadowmaster can beat HttT on hard dificultty... WITHOUT CHEATTING!
20100409 02:55:43< shadowmaster> Thunderstones! OOOOOHHHHHHHHH
20100409 02:56:00< Zerovirus> Oh my god Thunderstones are now officially Wesnoth's equivalent to meth crystals :P
20100409 02:56:09< shadowmaster> you missed the reference I guess
20100409 02:56:14< Blarumyrram> Me too
20100409 02:56:20< Zerovirus> A'yup
20100409 02:56:41< Gambit> PetePorty: Nobody can beat HttT on hard without cheating
20100409 02:56:45< Gambit> It's impossible!
20100409 02:56:47< Gambit> ;)
20100409 02:56:50< shadowmaster> http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Thundercats
20100409 02:56:54< Gambit> Damn AI.
20100409 02:56:57< shadowmaster> it's HOOOOOO anyway
20100409 02:57:07< Zerovirus> Oh, Thundercats? I used to watch that show. I was like 9 then.
20100409 02:57:09< PetePorty> But... it's -THE- Shadowmaster!
20100409 02:57:21< Zerovirus> Never really understood the plot that much, just liked watching the animated people fight and talk.
20100409 02:57:26< Blarumyrram> Gambit, yeah, if you make it to the last level without saveloading, Delfador will turn against you right in the beginning
20100409 02:57:38< Blarumyrram> And L'isar
20100409 02:57:48< Zerovirus> What about Kalenz?
20100409 02:57:55< Blarumyrram> Was Kalenz in that scenario
20100409 02:58:01< Zerovirus> Yeah I think so
20100409 02:58:17< Blarumyrram> Kalenz will turn to a Yeti then
20100409 02:58:25< Zerovirus> Funny, I was thinking the same thing.
20100409 02:58:30< Blarumyrram> I know
20100409 02:58:40< Zerovirus> What how >.>
20100409 02:58:52< Blarumyrram> I knew you'd ask that also.
20100409 02:59:14 * Zerovirus puts tinfoil hat on
20100409 02:59:36< Blarumyrram> shadowmaster, you watch furry anime?
20100409 02:59:50< shadowmaster> I don't watch TV since years
20100409 02:59:59< Zerovirus> Good man.
20100409 02:59:59< shadowmaster> that was when I was 6 or something
20100409 03:00:11< shadowmaster> in fact, I exchanged my TV set for this laptop. :/
20100409 03:00:24< Zerovirus> YOU ARE GLORIOUS COMRADE
20100409 03:00:33< PetePorty> dude, you don't eat, you don't play, you don't watch tv, you barely have internet.... WTH  DO YOU DO!?
20100409 03:00:45< shadowmaster> I am the goddamn shadowmaster.
20100409 03:00:49< shadowmaster> And I talk about wesnoth.
20100409 03:00:50< Blarumyrram> He is Efficient.
20100409 03:01:19< Gambit> PetePorty: he talks to me :)
20100409 03:01:30< PetePorty> hmmm...
20100409 03:01:38< shadowmaster> pretty much the only thing I do, talk.
20100409 03:01:41< Zerovirus> Gambit and SM are probably the same person with a severe case of Schizophrenia.
20100409 03:01:45< shadowmaster> I've not had much time for coding
20100409 03:01:51< PetePorty> and im pretty sure he CAn beat HttT on hard without cheatting...
20100409 03:01:53< Zerovirus> *coughspritescough*
20100409 03:02:12< Gambit> Zerovirus: but one watches TV, has decent internet, etc
20100409 03:02:16< shadowmaster> ...I can't beat any campaign without cheating.
20100409 03:02:22< Gambit> Actually I don't watch so much tv anymore...
20100409 03:02:28< PetePorty> see?
20100409 03:02:29< shadowmaster> well, HttT on easy, once.
20100409 03:02:31< PetePorty> I KNEW it!
20100409 03:02:34< Zerovirus> Shadowmaster's like Agent Smith.
20100409 03:02:44< shadowmaster> and, I hate HttT's ending.
20100409 03:02:44< Zerovirus> Lol, you too?
20100409 03:02:53< Zerovirus> The ending is a bit, how do you say it, cliche?
20100409 03:02:56< shadowmaster> that doesn't really motivate me to play the damn thing to the end
20100409 03:03:01< shadowmaster> Zerovirus: cliche and *stupid*
20100409 03:03:13< Zerovirus> Eh, the plot was kinda dumbed down too I guess.
20100409 03:03:13< shadowmaster> why there was nobody to protect that arrogant bitch, why?
20100409 03:03:16< Blarumyrram> Yeah, I too wished bioengineered robots would appear somewhere towards the end
20100409 03:03:22< Zerovirus> Suddenly I marry Li'Sar rofls whoo hot wife
20100409 03:03:31< shadowmaster> I COULD KILL HER WITH ONE SINGLE UNIT AFTER BEATING HER ARMY IN 3 TURNS
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20100409 03:03:47< shadowmaster> that can't be more anticlimatic, probably
20100409 03:03:53< Zerovirus> Eh, at least the "I am your GRANDMA" twist in Dead Water was worse.
20100409 03:04:05< Blarumyrram> I've never played Dead Water
20100409 03:04:05< Gambit> wth?
20100409 03:04:16< Zerovirus> Play it for yourself.
20100409 03:04:23< Zerovirus> Or just read the transcripts or something.
20100409 03:04:25< Blarumyrram> "AN EMPIRE OF GRANDMA AND GRANDSON - WE WILL BE INVINCIBLE!"?
20100409 03:04:28< shadowmaster> who the hell sends their guards to the battlefield and sits on their castle with nobody to guard it?
20100409 03:04:34< Blarumyrram> Meh, I don't really care to
20100409 03:04:35< shadowmaster> *their guards and their army
20100409 03:04:39< Blarumyrram> I don't like mermen as they are
20100409 03:04:46< Zerovirus> Eh, kinda. Except both grandson and grandma were good guys working to kill the evil liches that took over their bay.
20100409 03:04:47< Blarumyrram> I don't think mermaids should have armor.
20100409 03:05:10< Blarumyrram> mermaids/mermen
20100409 03:05:19< Zerovirus> I've always questioned the usage of that mohawk crest thing on the Hoplite's helmet.
20100409 03:05:31< Gambit> Have you seen that one new merman?
20100409 03:05:35< Gambit> The one with the bandana?
20100409 03:05:44< Zerovirus> The, uh, netcaster line?
20100409 03:05:44< Blarumyrram> Hum
20100409 03:05:49< Blarumyrram> That's old though
20100409 03:05:56< Zerovirus> ^ Yup
20100409 03:06:56< shadowmaster> Zerovirus: I like it.
20100409 03:07:02< shadowmaster> ah wait, I'm thinking of a fighter
20100409 03:07:19< shadowmaster> and I'm thinking of the portrait, not the sprite :/
20100409 03:07:36< Zerovirus> It makes no sense underwater. This huge unwieldy nonhydrodynamic thing. The lv3 Hoplite, of course. The lv 1 looks marginally realistic.
20100409 03:07:40< Blarumyrram> Kitty one-uped Avatar though :\
20100409 03:07:44< Zerovirus> Though I'm wondering why the tails aren't really protected though.
20100409 03:07:50< Blarumyrram> Which I haven't seen, but still
20100409 03:08:00< Zerovirus> The one thing I liked about avatar aliens was CHEST NOSTRILS HELL YES
20100409 03:08:04< Gambit> Zerovirus: too bad I cleaned up my inbox the other day :(
20100409 03:08:08< Gambit> I said the same thing to jetrel
20100409 03:08:11< Zerovirus> After seeing it I wanted to cut holes in my sternum :P
20100409 03:08:14< shadowmaster> I'm the goddamn shadowmaster and I do useless commits
20100409 03:08:15< Gambit> he sent back an explanation
20100409 03:08:31< Zerovirus> "The Developers Say No?"
20100409 03:08:38< Gambit> No.
20100409 03:08:41< Gambit> Something about pirates
20100409 03:08:42< Zerovirus> :P
20100409 03:08:45< Zerovirus> What
20100409 03:08:59< Blarumyrram> Pirates have noses in their chest
20100409 03:09:05< Zerovirus> Wait that's exxactly what I need to include in my sprites. Chest nostrils like in Avatar!
20100409 03:09:05< Gambit> Pirates wear bandanas? I dunno... Thats what it's too bad I cleaned out my inbox.
20100409 03:09:08< Gambit> I can't remember it all.
20100409 03:09:37< PetePorty> omg, bye guys, I have this incredible headache, so... yeah, bye.. see ya, sleep well
20100409 03:09:48< Gambit> PetePorty: I told you to check your drink!
20100409 03:09:55< PetePorty> hey!
20100409 03:10:00< PetePorty> I don't drink!
20100409 03:10:09< PetePorty> that's Shadowmaster!
20100409 03:10:23< Zerovirus> So what? Snorted one too many Thunderstones? :P
20100409 03:10:38< PetePorty> ...
20100409 03:10:42< Gambit> PetePorty: Someone might have put something in your apple juice!
20100409 03:10:57< PetePorty> I don't drink juice either
20100409 03:11:01< Gambit> Water?
20100409 03:11:02< Zerovirus> You're now taking 8 poison damage. Go to sleep, when you wake up a turn will have passed and you'll be cured.
20100409 03:11:04< Gambit> You must drink water.
20100409 03:11:09< Gambit> You're a carbon based lifeform.
20100409 03:11:11< PetePorty> no water for little petey
20100409 03:11:11< Zerovirus> (You are sleeping in a house right?)
20100409 03:11:41< PetePorty> nope... wait, is dumspter considered a house?
20100409 03:11:47< PetePorty> it IS my home, so...
20100409 03:11:50< Gambit> In Chile it is.
20100409 03:11:51< Gambit> ZING
20100409 03:11:55< PetePorty> O.o
20100409 03:11:55< Gambit> I'm sorry. :$
20100409 03:12:04< shadowmaster> Gambit: hm.
20100409 03:12:13< PetePorty> omg, u r totally banned from my friend list
20100409 03:12:26< shadowmaster> yeah, not funny
20100409 03:12:38< Gambit> Nationalism just took over there...
20100409 03:12:40< Zerovirus> friend list? Pfft, Shadowmaster's bannign him from the INTERNET.
20100409 03:12:54< Gambit> which internet?
20100409 03:12:54< PetePorty> yeah
20100409 03:12:56< Gambit> All of them!
20100409 03:13:01< PetePorty> you have a gun shadow?
20100409 03:13:20< Zerovirus> Except 4Chan.
20100409 03:13:27< Zerovirus> Gambit will be locked in a prison of  /b/.
20100409 03:13:27< PetePorty> O.o
20100409 03:13:44< PetePorty> arrrr my head!
20100409 03:13:59< shadowmaster> Zerovirus: hm, unfortunately Turuk has the EMP gun and he hasn't returned it to me yet :/
20100409 03:14:03< Zerovirus> That's it. Pete isn't a human, he's a pirate merman!
20100409 03:14:18< Gambit> I hope turuk makes it back okay.
20100409 03:14:24< shadowmaster> me too
20100409 03:14:25< PetePorty> sorry, I need some (insert a disgusting name for masturbation here to creep the guys)
20100409 03:14:28< Zerovirus> Lol, I included Turuk as a cameo NPC in a DnD campaign I ran. He instakilled a PC for trying to steal his huge gun.
20100409 03:14:53< PetePorty> lol
20100409 03:15:38 * shadowmaster notes that wesnoth-umc-dev's weaponry is missing since Turuk's departure :/
20100409 03:16:07< shadowmaster> would be nice if we had more grunt- er, devs and support staff.
20100409 03:16:09< Gambit> I wonder if we'll ever see him again though even if he does make it back.
20100409 03:16:26< Gambit> He had expressed some... discontent with the Wesnoth community before leaving.
20100409 03:16:36< Zerovirus> Really? Why?
20100409 03:16:37< PetePorty> you kiddin
20100409 03:16:39< shadowmaster> Gambit: yeah, and I can see why.
20100409 03:16:47< PetePorty> cuz of people likee me
20100409 03:16:51< Gambit> Zerovirus: Behind the scenes stuff. I don't really understand
20100409 03:16:52< shadowmaster> I'm not really happy about the current state of things, mind you.
20100409 03:16:53< PetePorty> yay!
20100409 03:16:54< Zerovirus> Well as of late the Users' Forum has been disgusting me to no end.
20100409 03:16:54< Gambit> PetePorty: No.
20100409 03:17:16< Zerovirus> disputes over art... the rng... It's like Wesnoth entered a Dark Age of User Discontent.
20100409 03:17:18< PetePorty> yes, mysticx said so
20100409 03:17:26< PetePorty> oh....
20100409 03:17:30< PetePorty> nah, i luv wesnoth
20100409 03:17:46< PetePorty> gambit made me cry when he told me i couldnt play anymore
20100409 03:17:56< Zerovirus> oh, is mysticx in first place on your art list? I can see why :P
20100409 03:18:13< PetePorty> nah, mysticx was my first friend in wesnoth
20100409 03:18:29< shadowmaster> on the other hand, we've had very little spambots
20100409 03:18:30< PetePorty> first and only for a lot of time
20100409 03:18:36< shadowmaster> they probably like happy places
20100409 03:18:41< PetePorty> lol
20100409 03:18:43< Zerovirus> mysticx is so much better than me I envy him. I envy him so much.
20100409 03:18:47< Gambit> shadowmaster: One every other week is "very little"?
20100409 03:19:08< PetePorty> yes
20100409 03:19:12< PetePorty> it is gambit
20100409 03:19:19< Blarumyrram> mysticx has too much of a reactionary strain to want to commit mainline though
20100409 03:19:30< Zerovirus> What?
20100409 03:19:45< Blarumyrram> ?
20100409 03:19:51< shadowmaster> Gambit: compared to what we had when I first assumed
20100409 03:19:59< Gambit> He yelled at me for praising Kalfia :(
20100409 03:20:04< PetePorty> dude, i know nothing about mystic... im starting to doubt he is a he... and even that hes human...
20100409 03:20:17< Blarumyrram> PetePorty, of course he isn't human
20100409 03:20:19< Gambit> I don't even like Kalfia... I was just summarizing things that had been said.
20100409 03:20:24< PetePorty> I knew it!
20100409 03:20:24< Blarumyrram> Heis the Unknown
20100409 03:20:48< PetePorty> I think the halflings are overpowered
20100409 03:20:50< Zerovirus> Mystic's obviously a Drake. Cant' you tell from his avatar?
20100409 03:20:56< PetePorty> ust like the devilings
20100409 03:20:56< Gambit> shadowmaster: now we have spam humans :D
20100409 03:21:07< Blarumyrram> Mystic hates about every change to the art since 1.0
20100409 03:21:10< PetePorty> Gambit: like me!
20100409 03:21:19< PetePorty> yeah...
20100409 03:21:22< shadowmaster> or Gamb-
20100409 03:21:23< shadowmaster> oa
20100409 03:21:30< Zerovirus> Blarumyrram: Why?
20100409 03:21:47< Blarumyrram> He's a fan of retro stuff, that has that certain feel
20100409 03:22:11< PetePorty> Umbangellelo!
20100409 03:22:13< Blarumyrram> And wesnoth is losing that feel
20100409 03:22:24< Blarumyrram> Decadent as we are
20100409 03:22:30< Zerovirus> On the scale of Retro, it's Cave Story > Wesnoth 1.0 > Wesnoth 1.8 > Halo 3.
20100409 03:22:32< PetePorty> yeah, wesnoth is becoming... modern
20100409 03:22:36< Zerovirus> I think we're still doing pretty good.
20100409 03:22:39< shadowmaster> oh gods, Wesnoth's modern! kill kill kill
20100409 03:22:43< Blarumyrram> It is
20100409 03:22:49< Blarumyrram> I mean, his nick is from MoM
20100409 03:22:51< Gambit> I like the new look.
20100409 03:22:54< PetePorty> modern is good
20100409 03:22:56< Gambit> The art is *amazing*
20100409 03:23:01< PetePorty> good is goose
20100409 03:23:02< Blarumyrram> That is pretty retro-looking
20100409 03:23:03< Gambit> And it keeps getting amazinger.
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20100409 03:23:07< Zerovirus> I just like better art. Don't really care about retro or not.
20100409 03:23:18< PetePorty> i LOVE the new drakes
20100409 03:23:20< Blarumyrram> Zerovirus, that doesn't make sense
20100409 03:23:23< Gambit> _music too_
20100409 03:23:41< PetePorty> nowadays i play on mute so... yeah
20100409 03:23:46< Zerovirus> How? I like better art for its intrinsic beauty not for some ideal of retroness based on bittage or whatever.
20100409 03:24:00< PetePorty> headache
20100409 03:24:02< Blarumyrram> "intrinsic beauty"..
20100409 03:24:08< Gambit> I like ugly art
20100409 03:24:11< Gambit> Like that ghast
20100409 03:24:18< Gambit> and the level 2 undead troll
20100409 03:24:24< PetePorty> i like big butts
20100409 03:24:34< PetePorty> and i can't deny
20100409 03:24:49< Zerovirus> Blarumyrram: Am I missing something here?
20100409 03:24:52< PetePorty> and i can't deny?
20100409 03:24:53< Blarumyrram> Zerovirus, yes
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20100409 03:25:03< PetePorty> sure i can
20100409 03:25:19< Blarumyrram> Someone who likes retro, obviously thinks retro has relatively more "intrinsic beauty"
20100409 03:25:50< Zerovirus> Hmm. Well, I can
20100409 03:25:57< Zerovirus> -derp pressed enter early-
20100409 03:25:57< PetePorty> wesbot: hug PetePorty only if you think he's way cooler than Gambit...
20100409 03:25:57 * wesbot hugs PetePorty
20100409 03:26:01< PetePorty> yay!
20100409 03:26:16< PetePorty> Gambit, I OWN you....
20100409 03:26:18< Zerovirus> I can't really say that I consider retro art to look better than modern art.
20100409 03:26:24< Gambit> Only according to wesbot
20100409 03:26:30< PetePorty> but...
20100409 03:26:33< PetePorty> wesbot...
20100409 03:26:53< PetePorty> shikadibot says so too
20100409 03:26:58< Zerovirus> Aloice: hug me only if you think I'm the most awesomest cool super mega person in the world. :P
20100409 03:27:11< PetePorty> ...
20100409 03:27:21< PetePorty> nope
20100409 03:27:40< Zerovirus> ...Gee come on. I thought we were friends.
20100409 03:27:48< Gambit> PetePorty: http://cdn.holytaco.com/www/sites/default/files/images/2009/11/7_1.jpg
20100409 03:28:04< Gambit> bbl student
20100409 03:28:05< Zerovirus> Gambit: That's going in my image macro list.
20100409 03:28:39< Aloice> Zero: Im sort of observing here. Just got over something I didn't think I could get over. Proud of myself right now. But anyway. You get it.
20100409 03:28:43< PetePorty> lol?
20100409 03:28:58< PetePorty> no hug..
20100409 03:29:01< PetePorty> see?
20100409 03:29:07< Zerovirus> ;_;
20100409 03:29:12< Aloice> -observer goes back to corner and reads discussion about art- Hey he gets it.
20100409 03:29:14< PetePorty> thats why bots r better than humans
20100409 03:29:24< shadowmaster> ...why?
20100409 03:29:28< Aloice> lol.
20100409 03:29:30< Zerovirus> Aloice is a robot. Aren't you? :P
20100409 03:29:39< PetePorty> cuz they say im cooler than gambit
20100409 03:29:50< Zerovirus> No wai. You go and try program something like GEB.
20100409 03:29:53< Aloice> -insert innuendo here-
20100409 03:30:08< PetePorty> well, i programmed a pong!
20100409 03:30:08< shadowmaster> well, enough innuendo
20100409 03:30:14< PetePorty> on your face!
20100409 03:30:24< PetePorty> :)
20100409 03:30:34< Aloice> sorry
20100409 03:30:38< shadowmaster> s/on/in/
20100409 03:30:46< Blarumyrram> enough onnuendo?
20100409 03:30:53< Zerovirus> PetePorty: Remember that guy, Renigade, from the forums got banned for saying that to Noy :P
20100409 03:30:57< Blarumyrram> oh.
20100409 03:31:09< PetePorty> no, e said something else
20100409 03:31:13< Zerovirus> Close enough
20100409 03:31:14< PetePorty> that was worse
20100409 03:31:16< Zerovirus> Something about faces
20100409 03:31:36< PetePorty> no, something about... sucking posteriors
20100409 03:31:46< shadowmaster> ah, yes
20100409 03:32:20< shadowmaster> ha: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=420551#p420551
20100409 03:32:26< shadowmaster> I guessed from the name that it was a spambot
20100409 03:32:54< Blarumyrram> "Rehana"? What's peculiar about it
20100409 03:32:56< Zerovirus> How?
20100409 03:33:06< Zerovirus> Composed of random syllables designed to sound like a name?
20100409 03:33:25< Blarumyrram> Like Blarumyrran
20100409 03:33:34-!- Blarumyrram is now known as Blarumyrran
20100409 03:33:52< Blarumyrran> I'm a closet spambot
20100409 03:34:11< Zerovirus> I always thought it was some obscure subphylum of mushrooms for some reason >.>
20100409 03:34:29< shadowmaster> Blarumyrran: is it just me or your nickname isn't always the same?
20100409 03:34:43< PetePorty> good night guys, sleep time... see ya... shadowy, go get something to eat... and gambit u r  a racist, i hate you >: (
20100409 03:34:44< PetePorty> lol
20100409 03:34:45< shadowmaster> I'm pretty sure I've seen it spelt differently here
20100409 03:34:47< PetePorty> bye
20100409 03:34:52< PetePorty> sleep well
20100409 03:34:59< shadowmaster> difficult to sleep :/
20100409 03:35:10< shadowmaster> but I Jut ate!
20100409 03:35:14< PetePorty> ;)
20100409 03:35:14< shadowmaster> *I just ate a spambot!
20100409 03:35:18< Zerovirus> lol
20100409 03:35:19< PetePorty> ok...
20100409 03:35:30< PetePorty> i really need to go...
20100409 03:35:31< Zerovirus> I heard they don't have much substance. You'll be fine in 10 minutes.
20100409 03:35:32< PetePorty> bye
20100409 03:35:42< PetePorty> uhhh...
20100409 03:35:44< PetePorty> omg
20100409 03:35:46< Blarumyrran> Blarumyrram and Blarumyrrar are alternates for it if Blarumyrran hangs
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20100409 03:35:49< Zerovirus> wut happen
20100409 03:36:05< shadowmaster> Blarumyrran: ever heard of /msg nickserv ghost   ?
20100409 03:36:09< shadowmaster> or /msg nickserv help ghost
20100409 03:36:21< Blarumyrran> Yeah, but why
20100409 03:36:28< shadowmaster> so you don't need to use alternates
20100409 03:36:33< Blarumyrran> Why are they bad
20100409 03:36:45< Zerovirus> So again, shadowmaster, why is this account a spambot?
20100409 03:36:48< Blarumyrran> It's not like I wouldn't be Bla<tab> to everyone on irc
20100409 03:36:56< shadowmaster> Zerovirus: the key word here i "was", not "isi"
20100409 03:37:08< shadowmaster> *is, *is
20100409 03:37:25< shadowmaster> dunno, reminded me of a singer.
20100409 03:37:39< Zerovirus> ...Going to register an account Justin_Bieber now.
20100409 03:39:32< Zerovirus> So having an account that sounds like a singer is grounds for being banned now? :P
20100409 03:39:49< shadowmaster> it's grounds for activating the Spamalarm
20100409 03:40:02< Zerovirus> You're tempting me, man.
20100409 03:40:11< Blarumyrran> Hordes_of_sad_somen wouldn't get banned even for colored text though
20100409 03:40:11< shadowmaster> please, let's not play games here.
20100409 03:40:21< shadowmaster> Blarumyrran: uh, who?
20100409 03:40:28< Zerovirus> A joke account.
20100409 03:40:34< Zerovirus> I think it's in an offtopic thread somewhere.
20100409 03:40:39< Zerovirus> Either that or Users Foru,
20100409 03:40:42< Zerovirus> *forum.
20100409 03:40:45< shadowmaster> it doesn't exist
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20100409 03:41:06< Zerovirus> Hordes_of_sad_women? I saw it just a few weeks ago on a bored forum trawl.
20100409 03:41:15< shadowmaster> ah, women..
20100409 03:41:30< shadowmaster> this is their only post so far: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=28084&p=406463#p406463
20100409 03:41:44< shadowmaster> oh. HAHA
20100409 03:41:57< Zerovirus> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=28084&p=406463#p406463
20100409 03:42:03< Zerovirus> Oh darn. Ninjad.
20100409 03:42:12< shadowmaster> double ninja
20100409 03:42:25< shadowmaster> (I also laughed at you first!)
20100409 03:42:30< Zerovirus> Wait we can't eat oranges in a bathtub in texas?
20100409 03:42:37< Zerovirus> I'm going to do just that tonight. Wait and see.
20100409 03:42:46< shadowmaster> I'm pretty sure someone here is laughing at me for falling for that
20100409 03:42:52< Zerovirus> Maybe Morpheus will show up and offer me the blue and red pills.
20100409 03:43:30< Blarumyrran> Yeah, women
20100409 03:43:40< Blarumyrran> somen doesn't really mean anything, does it
20100409 03:43:46< shadowmaster> Blarumyrran: no, for the account's legitimacy
20100409 03:44:30< shadowmaster> ShikadiLord could have been banned, you know.
20100409 03:44:35< Blarumyrran> The funny thing was,
20100409 03:44:56< Zerovirus> to quote Jetrel: How many boards would the mongols horde if the Mongol hordes got bored?
20100409 03:45:51< Blarumyrran> I was accidentally somehow was logged in under my own account and posted that under my own nick - but luckily could delete it in a few seconds before anyone could notice, and post it again with the women
20100409 03:46:07< Blarumyrran> I'm suprised noone noticed
20100409 03:46:11< shadowmaster> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=20663&p=289871#p289871
20100409 03:48:07< Zerovirus> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=406504#p406504
20100409 03:50:18< shadowmaster> I had posted that only because I was frustrated at the amount of useless ideas in the forum back then
20100409 03:50:45< Blarumyrran> So added another one
20100409 03:50:56< shadowmaster> I was searching for nice user ideas that I could implement in mainline for them.
20100409 03:51:04< shadowmaster> I only found crap, crap, and more crap.
20100409 03:51:38< Zerovirus> Is this part of the reason why you're displeased with the mindless sheep of the forums these days?
20100409 03:51:48< Blarumyrran> So instead you implemented a fundamental choice for each player - he may be male, or he may be female
20100409 03:51:55< shadowmaster> Blarumyrran: ...no
20100409 03:52:16< shadowmaster> that was my first patch around Sept. 2007. The psot above is from March 2008
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20100409 03:52:57< shadowmaster> Zerovirus: and, no. I got over the "useless ideas" part. And it's not just at the crowd, but also at the actual powers above me
20100409 03:53:27< shadowmaster> I'm not going to disclose further details though.
20100409 03:54:09 * shadowmaster goes to have tea with bread and scrambled eggs as mentioned above.
20100409 03:54:44< Zerovirus> Gambit: Well, all this time I was bored so I made a lineart for a future Dynamica unit. Wanna see? Not remotely finished though.
20100409 03:55:14< Blarumyrran> "lineart" gets a whole new meaning when you say it
20100409 03:55:31< Zerovirus> ...Eh?
20100409 03:55:39< Zerovirus> ...Oh.
20100409 03:55:42< Blarumyrran> yeah
20100409 03:55:43< Zerovirus> Haha. >.>
20100409 03:56:05< Zerovirus> So what if I don't use pencils? I don't liek pencilz.
20100409 03:56:22< Blarumyrran> I always use larger brushes until almost done
20100409 03:56:55< Zerovirus> yeah, well, um. I'm not as good of an artist >.> [/blatantexcusepleasedonthurtmeohgod]
20100409 03:57:18< Blarumyrran> I don't follow
20100409 03:57:37< Zerovirus> EXACTLY DONT QUESTION MY ERRONEOUS LOGIC
20100409 03:57:42< Blarumyrran> You're not so good of an artist as to use some certain brushes?
20100409 03:57:45< Blarumyrran> kk
20100409 03:57:49< Zerovirus> LIKE I SAID ERRONEOUS LOGIC
20100409 03:57:55< Zerovirus> ITS THERE TO CONFUSE YOU
20100409 03:57:57< Zerovirus> HAHAHA
20100409 03:57:57< Blarumyrran> DECIDEDLY ERRONEOUS
20100409 03:57:58< Zerovirus> haha
20100409 03:58:05< Zerovirus> >.>
20100409 03:58:09< Zerovirus> goingtosleepnow
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20100409 04:42:19< [bjoern]> 1.7.11-1.8beta4 Across the Harsh Sands, after a round Nym runs off to fetch a bottle, after the dialog game_error: unknown unit type ''; is there some simple fix, like patching the save game?
20100409 04:44:01< [bjoern]> Reading http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=28413 ...
20100409 04:44:59< [bjoern]> Anyone got a link to the scenario config file in the version control system?
20100409 04:46:26< [bjoern]> http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth/trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/scenarios/ apparently
20100409 04:49:38< Gambit> Sorry to everyone who highlighted me and left :\
20100409 04:50:21< Gambit> I'm not racist. I'm countryist.
20100409 04:51:48< Blarumyrran> country ~ nation
20100409 04:51:50< Blarumyrran> nationalist
20100409 04:51:51< Blarumyrran> :o
20100409 04:53:35< Gambit> I dunno why you all messaged me though. I said I'd be back later. I had a student. :\
20100409 04:54:03< Gambit> Tutees are now asking for me by name. -_-
20100409 04:54:43< Blarumyrran> We all?
20100409 04:54:48< Blarumyrran> ZeroVirus
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20100409 04:55:16< Gambit> Yes. Yall.
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20100409 05:06:06< Gambit> Goodnight Blar<tab>
20100409 05:06:50< Gambit> Goodnight sha<tab>a<tab>
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20100409 05:43:29< shadowmaster> ah Gambit, thanks for the info. I'd better remember this tomorrow to talk with you about it.
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20100409 06:03:30< un214> here we go installing 1.6 just so I can watch the replay that guy gave me
20100409 06:04:41< shadowmaster> hopefully you have learne enough to not need to hack the Makefile this time :)
20100409 06:05:35< un214> uhh I found a binary
20100409 06:05:47< un214> ubuntu repository is still 1.6
20100409 06:05:51< shadowmaster> ahhh...alright then
20100409 06:06:14< un214> besides I wouldn't waste -Ox on a binary that only gets used once
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20100409 06:08:51< shadowmaster> I figured that since it's the GNU compiler collection its implementation of -Oxen is better than average :3
20100409 06:09:24 * shadowmaster shoots himself in the head for the horrible pun
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20100409 07:36:07< TKerrygan> hi. How can I use the "resources" plug-in?
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20100409 07:37:25< TKerrygan> someone here?
20100409 07:37:43< Blarumyrran> I think they are things not meant to be used inside the game
20100409 07:38:05< TKerrygan> ap
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20100409 09:36:43< ancestral> k
20100409 09:36:52 * ancestral is in bathroom
20100409 09:38:36< ancestral> oops wrong channel…
20100409 09:47:07 * Rhonda wanted to ask wether there is a bathroom tile in wesnoth.
20100409 09:47:22< ancestral> Haha
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20100409 10:28:24< Zarel> Hmm.
20100409 10:28:37< Zarel> i.r.t. http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=420588#p420588
20100409 10:28:51< Zarel> There's randomness in many games.
20100409 10:29:26< Zarel> Even combinatorial games like chess - you don't do the same thing in every game; you make decide... somewhat randomly.
20100409 10:29:43< Zarel> It's rare that the same game of Chess is played twice, precisely because of that.
20100409 10:30:13< Zarel> It's emergent randomness - it doesn't have to be forced - and it arguably shouldn't.
20100409 10:30:53< Zarel> Let's take, for example - rock paper scissors. No RNG, and yet people often bring it up as a purely random game.
20100409 10:31:55< Zarel> 'Course, RPS isn't a combinatorial game - it uses the player not knowing what the other player is playing to enforce the randomness.
20100409 10:32:16< Zarel> But it's the _player_ making the random decision, not an RNG. And that helps players feel "in control".
20100409 10:33:25< Zarel> Take the example of Pokemon for "RPS plus some bells and whistles". In Pokemon, most attacks have an accuracy of 100%. There are things that screw with accuracy, and non-100%, but they can be taken out and Pokemon would still be Pokemon.
20100409 10:34:13< Zarel> In Pokemon, you decide what you do, and the other player does too, and then those two actions are carried out, and if you successfully predicted and countered your opponent's move, you "win" that turn.
20100409 10:34:21< Zarel> Just like RPS.
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20100409 10:38:39< Ivanovic> moin
20100409 10:39:13< Zarel> It's only 3:38 AM CDT!
20100409 10:39:28< Zarel> I usually don't see you until 4:00. ;)
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20100409 10:49:54< Unnheulu> hiah
20100409 10:50:53< Unnheulu> Zarel: They is no such thing as true randomness (other than in the decay of something or other)
20100409 10:51:16< Unnheulu> Zarel: Every decision is based off something; whether it be experience, or wanting to try something new
20100409 10:51:35< Zarel> There's enough randomness to make a game's result unpredictable.
20100409 10:51:47< Unnheulu> Pseudo-randomness ;)
20100409 10:51:49< Zarel> No one cares about true randomness.
20100409 10:51:55< Unnheulu> It seems random; but, really its not
20100409 10:52:11< Zarel> The only people who care about the difference between pseudo-randomness and true randomness are cryptographers.
20100409 10:52:32< Zarel> Now, it just so happens that one of us is a cryptographer, and for some reason I doubt it's you.
20100409 10:52:55< Unnheulu> Not me :D
20100409 10:53:18< Zarel> So there's really no need to worry about pseudorandomness.
20100409 10:54:02< Zarel> There's a time and place for everything, and one of the most annoying things is when people bring things up when they're not relevant, just to sound smart.
20100409 10:54:08< Zarel> "Correlation is not causation" is another one.
20100409 10:54:36 * Unnheulu has a Dad who keeps mentioning that
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20100409 10:54:54< Zarel> Point out that correlation is the first indicator of causation.
20100409 10:54:56< Unnheulu> it's really annoying the stuff he comes out with, and being Risk Manager he comes out with a lot :(
20100409 10:55:39< Unnheulu> Anyways, I'm not disagreeing with you Zarel, I'm just pointing out, that mostly nothing is truly random
20100409 10:56:01< Zarel> Yeah, and my point is that by pointing out that, you make it seem relevant when it isn't. At all.
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20100409 10:56:28 * Unnheulu doesn't want an argument :(
20100409 10:57:06 * Zarel will stop.
20100409 10:57:20< Zarel> I'm just stressed because there's this question I've been trying to do for three hours, and I've gotten nowhere with it.
20100409 10:59:29< Unnheulu> Exams?
20100409 11:01:21< Unnheulu> I love it when the lobby mods (in this case jb and noy) get flamed by users for being banned, and then they just paste exactly what happened ;d
20100409 11:01:23< Unnheulu> :D
20100409 11:08:55< Unnheulu> Yay, new iPod has multi-tasking
20100409 11:09:01< Unnheulu> FINALLY^^
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20100409 11:14:36< Unnheulu> The other day, xmoto had the first ever moan about someone being banned
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20100409 11:27:29< Azad> hi..everyone
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20100409 11:28:35< Azad> can any tell me where to post if an additional document is to post on the site of GSOC sit?
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20100409 14:16:54< Unnheulu> shadowmaster: How does the path finding code work in your program?
20100409 14:17:10< Unnheulu> I don't talk C++ too well, so it doesn't make much sense to me >.>
20100409 14:20:57< ghyr-easeus> hi
20100409 14:22:15< shadowmaster> I'll explain it later
20100409 14:23:33< Unnheulu> ok, no worries
20100409 14:23:50< Unnheulu> hi
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20100409 14:39:31< ghyr-easeus> i found some *VERY* old versions
20100409 14:39:41< ghyr-easeus> just for collection
20100409 14:40:32< ghyr-easeus> 0.3, 0.3.4, 0.4, 0,4,5
20100409 14:40:52< shadowmaster> I have 0.1 and 0.2
20100409 14:42:36< Gambit> I think Dave wins this one.
20100409 14:43:15< shadowmaster> I did get it from one of his posts
20100409 14:43:25< ghyr-easeus> Gambit: link, please?
20100409 14:43:28< Jarkko_> Gambit: Yeah... because he probably has the version -0.1, that exists only in his head. :P
20100409 14:43:41< Gambit> ghyr-easeus: A link to what?
20100409 14:43:52< ghyr-easeus> Gambit: not to you, sorry
20100409 14:43:58< ghyr-easeus> shadowmaster: link, please?
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20100409 14:45:05< shadowmaster> http://shadowm.rewound.net/junk/wesnoth-0.1.tar.gz
20100409 14:45:17< shadowmaster> same path for 0.2
20100409 14:45:20< ghyr-easeus> shadowmaster: it's sources
20100409 14:45:35< ghyr-easeus> sources can be downloaded here: wesnoth.org/files/old/
20100409 14:46:15< shadowmaster> someone will beat me to the search. I've run out of battery charge
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20100409 14:46:31< ghyr-easeus> anyway, how to compile that shit?
20100409 14:46:37< ghyr-easeus> i'm not a programmer
20100409 14:46:46< ghyr-easeus> so i'm looking for binaries
20100409 14:47:04< ghyr-easeus> if you tell me how to compile this i will do
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20100409 14:48:09< Johannes13> usualy "./configure" "make" "make install" :)
20100409 14:48:43< ghyr-easeus> i'm not a programmer
20100409 14:48:51< ghyr-easeus> what utils i have to download?
20100409 14:48:56< ghyr-easeus> for Windows
20100409 14:50:00< Gambit> Linux
20100409 14:50:03< Gambit> lol jk
20100409 14:50:13< fendrin> ghyr-easeus: It's not exactly easy to compile in windows.
20100409 14:50:31< ghyr-easeus> i'll try
20100409 14:50:45< ghyr-easeus> just tell me about those utils
20100409 14:50:55< fendrin> I think Gambit is right. It's easier to install linux and compile there than trying on windows.
20100409 14:51:14< Gambit> Yeah but he'll want to play it on windows. :\
20100409 14:51:25< ghyr-easeus> utils, please?
20100409 14:52:27< fendrin> ghyr-easeus: You need all libraries wesnoth is linked against. The development versions (only those allow compiling.) You may need to compile some of them as well.
20100409 14:53:05< fendrin> ghyr-easeus: I use scons on linux for compiling, no idea if that works in windows.
20100409 14:53:15< Blarumyrran> "only those allow compiling"?
20100409 14:53:21< fendrin> YOu need a c++ compiler, I use gcc.
20100409 14:53:43< ghyr-easeus> gcc + libs?
20100409 14:54:03< ghyr-easeus> 1 questions: what libs uses 0.1 and 0.2?
20100409 14:54:05< fendrin> Blarumyrran: yes.
20100409 14:54:08< ghyr-easeus> *question
20100409 14:54:14< fendrin> Good question.
20100409 14:54:16< Unnheulu> ...
20100409 14:54:20< Unnheulu> wesnoth just randomly crashed
20100409 14:54:30< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: version? OS?
20100409 14:54:30< fendrin> If you execute scons in the sourcetreee the programm will tell you.
20100409 14:54:36< Unnheulu> Blarumyrran: are you syntax error?
20100409 14:54:45< Blarumyrran> Yes
20100409 14:54:50< Unnheulu> ghyr-easeus: I'm still on 1.7.17, so its not surprising^^
20100409 14:55:03< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: OS?
20100409 14:55:07< Unnheulu> Linux
20100409 14:55:23 * Unnheulu makes a mental note to one day compile wesnoth on haiku
20100409 14:55:24< Blarumyrran> fendrin, I can download the source for stable also though?
20100409 14:56:04< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: 1) Update to 1.8
20100409 14:56:14< Unnheulu> ghyr-easeus: I have svn on my laptop :P
20100409 14:56:22< fendrin> Blarumyrran: Sorry, I don't understand your question, can you precise it please?
20100409 14:56:24< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: 2) If there are updates available to your OS, download them.
20100409 14:56:41< Blarumyrran> fendrin, ah nvm, I thought you meant wesnoth development versions and then it didn't make sense
20100409 14:56:45< Unnheulu> updates auto install :P
20100409 14:57:04< Unnheulu> aw crud
20100409 14:57:11< fendrin> Blarumyrran: No, I meant the development packages of the libraries. Only those contain the header files that are needed for linking against them.
20100409 14:57:18< Unnheulu> 'cos of the upkeep from 6 elvish rangers I can't afford anything
20100409 14:57:22< Blarumyrran> yeh.
20100409 14:58:31< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: 3) Your DDR memory might be corrupt.
20100409 14:58:45< Unnheulu> wesnoth is running normally again now...:P
20100409 14:58:53< ghyr-easeus> When my memory module got corrupted, Wesnoth crashed every 10-15 mins
20100409 15:02:21< Unnheulu> W00tness
20100409 15:02:28< Unnheulu> I just won an orcish incursion^^
20100409 15:03:46< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: congratulations
20100409 15:04:43< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: there's no version 1.7.17
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20100409 15:16:44< ghyr-easeus> installed mingw
20100409 15:16:46< ghyr-easeus> how to?
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20100409 15:19:36< Unnheulu> ghyr-easeus: 1.7.15...
20100409 15:19:45< Unnheulu> (1.8rc1)
20100409 15:19:53< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: understood
20100409 15:19:58< Unnheulu> :P
20100409 15:20:11< shadowmaster> compiling Wesnoth on Windows is hard.
20100409 15:20:26< Unnheulu> compiling wesnoth with anything but scons is hard
20100409 15:20:30< Unnheulu> *autotools
20100409 15:20:31< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: filthy lies
20100409 15:20:47< Unnheulu> Okok, cmake is fairly easy to
20100409 15:20:52< shadowmaster> cmake, scons, autotools, they are all easy to use
20100409 15:21:02< ghyr-easeus> shadowmaster: cmake?
20100409 15:21:06< shadowmaster> particularly autotools. I don't care what esr thinks about it at thecode leve
20100409 15:21:08< ghyr-easeus> shadowmaster: edtails, please
20100409 15:21:08< shadowmaster> l
20100409 15:21:21< shadowmaster> ghyr-easeus: what version are you trying to compile?
20100409 15:21:29< Unnheulu> autotools is super easy
20100409 15:21:32< Unnheulu> scons is plain confusing
20100409 15:21:36< ghyr-easeus> the oldest one. for collection. 0.1
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20100409 15:21:42< Unnheulu> and cmake is like a longevrsion of autotools
20100409 15:21:45< shadowmaster> okay, you are on your own on that one
20100409 15:21:46< Unnheulu> (to a code newbie)
20100409 15:21:48< shadowmaster> I mean 0.1
20100409 15:22:09 * Unnheulu is gonna try compiling 0.1
20100409 15:22:24< Unnheulu> If I have all the normal wesnoth libs, should that be ok?
20100409 15:22:30< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: yes
20100409 15:22:34< shadowmaster> I'm trying to adapt its makefile for compiling a Win32 version using the cross compiler anyway
20100409 15:22:34< Unnheulu> kay
20100409 15:22:42< Unnheulu> its autotools, right?
20100409 15:22:45< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: no
20100409 15:22:51< Unnheulu> ah
20100409 15:22:52< shadowmaster> it's a plain old Makefile
20100409 15:23:03< Unnheulu> so hows that done? >.>
20100409 15:23:07< Unnheulu> ./configure make make install?
20100409 15:23:27 * ghyr-easeus cries: OH, F***! and deletes old 0.1 source
20100409 15:23:38< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: guess what, configure is used to produce usable Makefiles
20100409 15:23:46< Unnheulu> oh :/
20100409 15:23:50< shadowmaster> guess which tool is used to build following the Makefile instructions
20100409 15:23:58< Unnheulu> hmm
20100409 15:24:00< Unnheulu> toughy that
20100409 15:24:01< Unnheulu> make?
20100409 15:24:47< Unnheulu> Anyhows, just the normal wesnoth libs doesn't work; I'm getting an error^^
20100409 15:27:40< shadowmaster> /usr/lib/gcc/i586-mingw32msvc/4.2.1-sjlj/../../../../i586-mingw32msvc/lib/libmingw32.a(main.o):(.text+0x85): undefined reference to `_WinMain@16'
20100409 15:27:45< shadowmaster> bleh.
20100409 15:28:07< shadowmaster> um, IIRC I need to link SDLmain.lib, right
20100409 15:29:07< Unnheulu> wow, that's an error and a half :/
20100409 15:32:02< shadowmaster> heh, I cross-compiled it
20100409 15:32:14< shadowmaster> it doesn't run on WINE though
20100409 15:32:31< shadowmaster> um, that must be related to the datadir
20100409 15:33:23< Unnheulu> obviously :P
20100409 15:35:36< shadowmaster> ghyr-easeus: I got a working windows version
20100409 15:36:51< shadowmaster> http://shadowm.rewound.net/junk/wesnoth-0.1-win32.zip
20100409 15:37:20< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: no, not obviously because I'd expect an error to be printed on the terminal
20100409 15:37:32< Unnheulu> shadowmaster: that was sarcasm :P
20100409 15:38:30< shadowmaster> that version works on WINE too
20100409 15:38:45< Unnheulu> Oh, cool
20100409 15:38:51 * Unnheulu tries it
20100409 15:38:53< Unnheulu> Thanks shadowmaster!
20100409 15:39:43< ghyr-easeus> shadowmaster: Thank you, thank you!
20100409 15:39:46< ghyr-easeus> WOOOW
20100409 15:40:01 * shadowmaster thanks himself because he could never run wesnoth-0.1 on amd64 Linux without graphic corruption
20100409 15:40:20< Unnheulu> Why is it I get the feeling that Dave isn't a fan of art66
20100409 15:40:22< Unnheulu> ^^
20100409 15:41:26< Unnheulu> Wow, this is actually surprisingly similar to the version today
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20100409 15:42:09< shadowmaster> the first notable difference to me is the way castles work
20100409 15:42:25< shadowmaster> you can recruit from any castle tile.
20100409 15:42:45< Unnheulu> Oh yeh, thats cool
20100409 15:42:55< shadowmaster> I may or may not publish a more detailed comparison in the following days
20100409 15:43:09< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: Uhm, do you have 0.2
20100409 15:43:10< Unnheulu> Although not so practical if the enemies on your doorstep
20100409 15:43:25< Unnheulu> ghyr-easeus: I just have the one shadowmaster sent us
20100409 15:43:29< ghyr-easeus> i meant shadowmaster
20100409 15:43:55< ghyr-easeus> shadowmaster: Do you have 0.2 and other releases that is older than 0.7.11?
20100409 15:44:06< shadowmaster> only 0.2
20100409 15:44:20 * Unnheulu wants to make a super awesome game now
20100409 15:44:22< ghyr-easeus> shadowmaster: Link, please?
20100409 15:44:50< shadowmaster> ghyr-easeus: let me compile it first :°
20100409 15:44:59< ghyr-easeus> ---
20100409 15:45:05< shadowmaster> it's not trivial this time because of some issues at the source code level
20100409 15:45:17< ghyr-easeus> shadowmaster: wesnoth.org/files/old
20100409 15:45:29< ghyr-easeus> shadowmaster: some old versions
20100409 15:45:44< ghyr-easeus> shadowmaster: if you compile it, that would be good
20100409 15:45:54< Unnheulu> shadowmaster is an admin on the wesnoth website, I'm sure he know :P
20100409 15:45:55< shadowmaster> note that you do have some windows builds of those versions there
20100409 15:46:06< ghyr-easeus> i know
20100409 15:46:11< ghyr-easeus> already downloaded it
20100409 15:46:20< ghyr-easeus> just want to have full collections
20100409 15:46:25< Unnheulu> actually, on that note, shadowmaster can you change my forum nick please? =)
20100409 15:46:31< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: to what nick?
20100409 15:46:36< Unnheulu> to Unnheulu like in irc
20100409 15:46:49< Unnheulu> That way people would be less confused
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20100409 15:47:19< ghyr-easeus> i already have 0.3 - 1.3.18
20100409 15:47:29< ghyr-easeus> also 1.4.7, 1.6.5 and 1.7.13
20100409 15:47:49< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: done
20100409 15:47:53< Unnheulu> shadowmaster: thanks
20100409 15:48:19< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: give me a link to your account to let me see
20100409 15:48:26< Unnheulu> hmm?
20100409 15:49:41 * Unnheulu is sooo glad dave didn't stop working on wesnoth
20100409 15:50:06< shadowmaster> ghyr-easeus: http://shadowm.rewound.net/wesnoth-0.2-win32.zip
20100409 15:50:18< ghyr-easeus> shadowmaster: thank you
20100409 15:50:21< shadowmaster> oops.
20100409 15:50:28< shadowmaster> add /junk/ between shadowm.rewound.net and wesnoth
20100409 15:50:48< Unnheulu> thanks sm^^
20100409 15:52:03< Unnheulu> aww, that one doesn't run in wine
20100409 15:52:14 * ghyr-easeus thinks that Dave stopped Wesnoth support long, long ago and current release - is a work of Ivanovic
20100409 15:52:23< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: oops.
20100409 15:52:26< shadowmaster> my bad
20100409 15:52:30 * Unnheulu thinks Dave still works on wesnoth
20100409 15:53:07< ghyr-easeus> shadowmaster: you hadn't placed SDL.dll
20100409 15:53:33< shadowmaster> yeah,  I noticed. I've just reuploaded with the missing library.
20100409 15:53:40< shadowmaster> (e.g. download again)
20100409 15:54:05< Unnheulu> Thanks again
20100409 15:54:15< shadowmaster> I'm off to class now, later
20100409 15:54:22< Unnheulu> C'ya
20100409 15:55:10< ghyr-easeus> shadowmaster: goodbye
20100409 15:55:34< Unnheulu> This release looks slightly nicer
20100409 15:56:12< Unnheulu> Woah
20100409 15:56:21< Unnheulu> the orcish archers...I recognise them!
20100409 15:56:32< Unnheulu> They hardly changed for ages
20100409 15:56:54< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: want 0.3?
20100409 15:56:59< Unnheulu> ok
20100409 15:57:54< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: wesnoth.org/files/old
20100409 15:57:58< Unnheulu> thanks
20100409 15:58:57< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: also haves 0.3.4, 0.4 and 0.4.5
20100409 15:59:00< ghyr-easeus> and sources
20100409 15:59:01< Unnheulu> cool
20100409 15:59:11< Unnheulu> I'm downloading 0.3.4, 'cos thats the earliest with source
20100409 15:59:39< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: can you compile a windows version?
20100409 15:59:49< Unnheulu> not easily no
20100409 16:00:04< Unnheulu> I've only made an exe once in my life, which was for a python program I made
20100409 16:00:25< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: i'm a beginner in programming
20100409 16:00:37< Unnheulu> Cool, what languages?
20100409 16:00:39< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: just started learning this puny pascal
20100409 16:00:55< Blarumyrran> Cool
20100409 16:01:06< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: so, I'm a Shit, not a programmer
20100409 16:01:09< Blarumyrran> I made my first turn-based strategies in pascal :)
20100409 16:01:19< Unnheulu> pascal...wow ;)
20100409 16:01:20< Blarumyrran> With ASCII
20100409 16:01:49< Unnheulu> ghyr-easeus: Wait...wha?
20100409 16:01:53< Blarumyrran> And stupidly used the 128-255 chars for it, and they got messed up on other computers
20100409 16:01:55< Unnheulu> Pascal, in this day and age? :P
20100409 16:02:07< Unnheulu> ghyr-easeus: Are you learning it in school?
20100409 16:02:15< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: *check*
20100409 16:02:17 * Unnheulu shudders
20100409 16:02:28< Unnheulu> I gotta learn visual basic for school >.>
20100409 16:02:35< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: next life it will be delphi
20100409 16:02:43< ghyr-easeus> *time
20100409 16:03:08< Unnheulu> ghyr-easeus: Outside of school, learn a decent language, like Java, or python, or something
20100409 16:03:40< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: c++
20100409 16:03:46< Unnheulu> You could...
20100409 16:03:46< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: i guess
20100409 16:03:51< Blarumyrran> I never figured out how you can use more than 16 colors with pascal
20100409 16:03:56< Unnheulu> ghyr-easeus: To give you an idea though...
20100409 16:04:02< Jarkko_> I tried to learn Python...
20100409 16:04:11< Jarkko_> I succeeded and coded a small hangman game.
20100409 16:04:16< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: because Wesnoth is c++ program
20100409 16:04:19< Jarkko_> Then - I ran out of things to code :S
20100409 16:04:34< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: and Trojan.Winlock is a c++ program too
20100409 16:04:37< Unnheulu> On my lap, I have a book which teaches you C++, only the command line stuff, 912 pages
20100409 16:04:59< Unnheulu> And I'm still confused on the subject of pointers >.>
20100409 16:05:18< Unnheulu> Whereas, I have a book on Java next to me, its...
20100409 16:05:20< Unnheulu> ah
20100409 16:05:24< Unnheulu> its disappeared
20100409 16:05:27< Unnheulu> brb
20100409 16:05:36< Unnheulu> Found it^^
20100409 16:05:40< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: where do you live? what country?
20100409 16:05:48< Unnheulu> 419 pages
20100409 16:06:00< Unnheulu>  Cymru, principality of England, UK 
20100409 16:06:15< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: Ukraine
20100409 16:06:21< Unnheulu> ...
20100409 16:06:24< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: please, don't ignore me
20100409 16:06:29< Unnheulu> We beat you 2-0 a few years back!!!!!!!!!!
20100409 16:06:32< Unnheulu> PWNED!!!
20100409 16:06:43< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: ********!
20100409 16:07:05< Unnheulu> Wow, nice shields Blarumyrran
20100409 16:07:06< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: <CENSORED> <CENSORED> <CENSORED>
20100409 16:07:25< Blarumyrran> thanks
20100409 16:07:42< Unnheulu> ghyr-easeus: Come on, cheer up :P
20100409 16:07:48< Unnheulu> 'twas years ago ;)
20100409 16:07:57< ghyr-easeus> biggrin 
20100409 16:08:22< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: let's play?
20100409 16:08:28< Unnheulu> wesnoth?
20100409 16:08:32< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: i will create a server
20100409 16:08:38< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: of course
20100409 16:08:38< Unnheulu> Use the official one
20100409 16:08:46< Gambit> you mean the master meta one.
20100409 16:08:52< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: i have to download 1.8.0
20100409 16:08:55< Unnheulu> ok
20100409 16:09:03< Unnheulu> hiah Gambit
20100409 16:09:10< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: 45 minutes of brain f**k
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20100409 16:09:22< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: but, if i use Kent mirror...
20100409 16:09:46< Unnheulu> blargh
20100409 16:10:04< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: ?
20100409 16:10:06< Unnheulu> use the official server
20100409 16:10:17< Gambit> *super duper master meta server
20100409 16:10:21< Unnheulu> Tomorrow I have tickets to see my local side playing =)
20100409 16:10:28< Gambit> For the official ladder.
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20100409 16:11:35< Unnheulu> I'm willing to bet thespaceinvader doesn't, despite him being next to one of britains top 30 teams
20100409 16:11:43< ghyr-easeus> Hey! Is there any Russian users?
20100409 16:11:46< Unnheulu> *England and Wales top 30 teams >.>
20100409 16:11:52< Gambit> Britain has a wesnoth team?
20100409 16:11:56< Unnheulu> No, football
20100409 16:11:58< Unnheulu> ^^
20100409 16:12:07< Gambit> meh. Wesnoth is cooler.
20100409 16:12:11< Unnheulu> Football?
20100409 16:12:14< Unnheulu> football is amazing!
20100409 16:12:14< Gambit> Oh wait you mean they play Wesbowl?
20100409 16:12:23< Unnheulu> No...that's nothing like football
20100409 16:12:45< Gambit> I saw some people on TV once playing a game that looked a lot like Wesbowl.
20100409 16:12:48< Gambit> But the ball was black
20100409 16:12:49< Unnheulu> Hehe
20100409 16:12:51< Gambit> and they were on ice.
20100409 16:12:53< Blarumyrran> In Wesbowl, people kill people
20100409 16:12:57< Blarumyrran> It's not the same
20100409 16:13:03< Unnheulu> That sounds a bit like rugby
20100409 16:13:17< Gambit> Blarumyrran: They were beating each other up!
20100409 16:13:22< Gambit> And then these two got mad
20100409 16:13:26< ghyr-easeus> :D
20100409 16:13:30< Gambit> and threw their gloves at each other
20100409 16:13:41< Gambit> and started punching.
20100409 16:13:46< Gambit> But it was hard to stand up on the ice
20100409 16:14:03< Gambit> That and they were dressed like heavy infantrymen.
20100409 16:14:13< Unnheulu> yep
20100409 16:14:21< Unnheulu> definetely ice hockey
20100409 16:14:48< ghyr-easeus> finger
20100409 16:14:50< Gambit> Nah. It was low-violence Wesbowl in a winter arena and you may only recruit HI
20100409 16:15:12< Unnheulu> I'm trying to think of a game to make >.>
20100409 16:15:15< Unnheulu> Ideas are soooo hard
20100409 16:15:25< Gambit> Oh Unnheulu step into my office.
20100409 16:15:48< Gambit> So there's this game where you start out with your leader and one recruit for each of the 4 players.
20100409 16:15:57< Gambit> They all get sent into this ring shaped arena
20100409 16:16:09< Gambit> and then one of the units is randomly selected to be "the bounty".
20100409 16:16:21< Gambit> Everyone who isn't on that unit's team tries to kill it.
20100409 16:16:29< Unnheulu> Scary
20100409 16:16:40< Gambit> When successful you get money (which you can use to recruit more) and a ticket that takes you back to the castle to recruit
20100409 16:16:56< Unnheulu> Which add-ons that?
20100409 16:16:59< Gambit> If you kill someone that isn't a bounty, that units also becomes a bounty.
20100409 16:17:05< Gambit> Unnheulu: Your brand new one :)
20100409 16:17:18 * Unnheulu wants to code a *game* not an add-on :P
20100409 16:17:22< Gambit> -an unfinished idea of mine-
20100409 16:17:23< Gambit> oh :(
20100409 16:17:49< Unnheulu> Why don't you code it, WML artist ;)
20100409 16:17:57< ghyr-easeus> my 1.8 download is 37% complete
20100409 16:18:06< Unnheulu> how slow is your connection? :P
20100409 16:18:18< Gambit> Unnheulu: I started on it... but then I had cooler ideas.
20100409 16:18:23< Unnheulu> Hehe
20100409 16:18:59< Gambit> So you want to make a whole new game...
20100409 16:19:01< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: 2 Mbit/s
20100409 16:19:07< Gambit> How about there's this game where you're a unicorn.
20100409 16:19:11< Unnheulu> Lawl
20100409 16:19:13< Gambit> No! a robot unicorn.
20100409 16:19:25< Gambit> You've got to keep moving forward
20100409 16:19:30< Gambit> And not hit anything
20100409 16:20:14 * Unnheulu makes a mental note to one day turn his arduino into a games console :/
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20100409 16:21:32< Unnheulu> halo
20100409 16:21:40< Gambit> terrible game
20100409 16:21:58< Gambit> Tribes
20100409 16:22:16< Gambit> Much better greeting.
20100409 16:24:38< ghyr-easeus> 1.8  69% ready
20100409 16:24:54< Unnheulu> Don't say rude things
20100409 16:25:02< Unnheulu>  /draw rude ASCII images
20100409 16:25:18< Gambit> ghyr-easeus: They did the best they could. ;)
20100409 16:25:37< ghyr-easeus> Gambit: I meant my 1.8 download
20100409 16:25:41< Gambit> sorry. (bad joke is bad)
20100409 16:28:37< ghyr-easeus> 89%
20100409 16:30:15< ghyr-easeus> 96%
20100409 16:30:45 * Unnheulu just found his goodness knows how many years old attempt at a campaign maker for wesnoth
20100409 16:31:16< ghyr-easeus> 98%
20100409 16:31:26< ghyr-easeus> 99%
20100409 16:31:56< ghyr-easeus> File Successfully Downloaded "wesnoth-1.8-win32.exe"
20100409 16:33:17< Gambit> Unnheulu: Burn it.
20100409 16:33:21< Gambit> lol
20100409 16:33:23< Unnheulu> lawl
20100409 16:33:59< ghyr-easeus> Corrupted installation, downloading again...
20100409 16:34:17< Unnheulu> aww
20100409 16:34:31< Gambit> ... april fools?
20100409 16:35:40< Unnheulu> http://pastebin.org/143008 <-- I made that program yeeeeaaaars ago
20100409 16:35:46< Unnheulu> like when I was 10 or 11 or something
20100409 16:36:29< Blarumyrran> I think Dark Sorcerer should level into Very Dark Sorcerer now
20100409 16:36:46< Unnheulu> Humm, they always hit, so you were unable to lose >.>
20100409 16:37:01< Unnheulu> Well, that's pathetic
20100409 16:38:51< Gambit> I might make a wesnoth unit maker.
20100409 16:39:01< Gambit> Today is a short school day and I have a sudden urge to use visual basic.
20100409 16:39:22< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: 22%
20100409 16:39:24< Unnheulu> ok
20100409 16:39:31< Unnheulu> aww the gui version of that had music and stuff
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20100409 16:40:27< Unnheulu> But...I've lost the code for the gui version
20100409 16:40:48< Gambit> I'll make you a gui interface
20100409 16:40:51< Gambit> in visual basic
20100409 16:40:56< Gambit> see if I can hack your IP address.
20100409 16:41:00< Unnheulu> :/
20100409 16:41:18< Unnheulu> anyhow, by gui, I mean isometric pygame window >.>
20100409 16:42:51< Gambit> I thought you meant a graphical user interface...
20100409 16:43:28< Unnheulu> lawl
20100409 16:43:40< Unnheulu> Any GTk gui's I've started, I've finished
20100409 16:43:58< ghyr-easeus> 37%
20100409 16:44:10< Gambit> Wow you weren't kidding us. :\
20100409 16:46:31< Unnheulu> ghyr-easeus: I feel sorry for you :(
20100409 16:46:32< ghyr-easeus> 49%
20100409 16:46:44< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: why?
20100409 16:46:53< Unnheulu> Having to redownload it
20100409 16:47:23< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: Wait... It installs with /NCRC command line switch!
20100409 16:47:32< Unnheulu> Gambit: this was the (rather confusing) code for making maps for my pyweek game last year: http://pastebin.org/143012
20100409 16:47:38< Unnheulu> ghyr-easeus: ok?
20100409 16:47:41< Unnheulu> :P
20100409 16:47:56< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: cancel! installation failed
20100409 16:47:56< Unnheulu> levels not maps >.>
20100409 16:48:01< Unnheulu> aww
20100409 16:48:10< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: shitty installation files is corrupted!
20100409 16:48:20< Unnheulu> :(
20100409 16:48:30< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: want to laugh?
20100409 16:48:35< Unnheulu> Gambit: even I've forgotten how it works
20100409 16:48:37< Unnheulu> ghyr-easeus: ok
20100409 16:48:37< Blarumyrran> treeshagging installation files
20100409 16:49:33< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=417267
20100409 16:49:41< Unnheulu> kay
20100409 16:49:45< Gambit> My map editor code is way cooler :o
20100409 16:49:52< Unnheulu> quite possible
20100409 16:50:05< Gambit> But I've forgotten how it works XD
20100409 16:50:17< Unnheulu> already read it ghyr-easeus
20100409 16:50:17< Unnheulu> :P
20100409 16:50:27< Gambit> I remember that because VB doesn't do variable substitution it was a massive pain in the rear.
20100409 16:50:36< Unnheulu> :D
20100409 16:50:48< Gambit> I had to create the map in 10x10 blocks
20100409 16:50:55< Gambit> And name the blocks based on xy coordinates
20100409 16:50:55< Unnheulu> My parser was simply splitting strings alone the colons and exclamation marks
20100409 16:51:02< Gambit> The block in the bottom left is 00.map
20100409 16:51:09< Unnheulu> ouch
20100409 16:51:23< Gambit> The block to the right of that is 10.map
20100409 16:51:31< ghyr-easeus> 72%...
20100409 16:51:42< Gambit> To the right of that is 20.map
20100409 16:51:53< Gambit> The pain came in trying to remember w(here)tf I was at.
20100409 16:51:56< Unnheulu> So 100 files?
20100409 16:52:02< Gambit> No.
20100409 16:52:07< Unnheulu> oh :/
20100409 16:52:08< Gambit> Each file contained 100 letters.
20100409 16:52:11< Unnheulu> ah
20100409 16:52:14< Gambit> Each file contained a 10x10 piece of the map.
20100409 16:52:29< Unnheulu> ok
20100409 16:52:34< Unnheulu> ouch :/
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20100409 16:53:45< Gambit> Because VB had no variable substitution I had to make the exploration window contain 100 panels.
20100409 16:54:12< Gambit> And the character's panel would move to the next panel's coordinates.
20100409 16:54:18< Gambit> Until you got to the end, then it loads the next block.
20100409 16:55:03< ghyr-easeus> 88%
20100409 16:55:29< Gambit> I tried to make a software lag switch in VB once. (failed)
20100409 16:55:40< Gambit> It was too slow when it turned back off.
20100409 16:56:30< Gambit> Also Unnheulu because of the no variable substitution the event that triggers when you clicked a panel in the map editor had to be coded for all 100 panels...
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20100409 16:56:53< Gambit> Actually had I been more experienced I might have been able to do something with the sender
20100409 16:56:55< Gambit> I dunno...
20100409 16:56:58< Unnheulu> Don't use vb then =P
20100409 16:57:53< Gambit> Unnheulu: http://pastebin.com/dEa3sz53
20100409 16:57:56< ghyr-easeus> File successfully downloaded
20100409 16:57:56< Gambit> the map editor :)
20100409 16:58:48< Unnheulu> that looked a pain to code :O
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20100409 17:01:46< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: Game installed, ready to plat
20100409 17:01:49< ghyr-easeus> *play
20100409 17:01:52< Unnheulu> hang on
20100409 17:02:35< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: map? rules?
20100409 17:02:53< Gambit> GEB_Big. No banana hammocks.
20100409 17:02:58< Unnheulu> default rules, don't mind what map
20100409 17:03:16< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: Weldyn channel
20100409 17:03:29< Unnheulu> ok
20100409 17:04:17< ghyr-easeus> off?
20100409 17:04:26< ghyr-easeus> official i meant?
20100409 17:04:38< Unnheulu> yeh
20100409 17:04:47< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: you create?
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20100409 17:04:51< Unnheulu> ok
20100409 17:05:22< Unnheulu> created
20100409 17:05:49< Unnheulu> Gambit: do you have python+pygame installed?
20100409 17:06:55< Gambit> Past tense on the first. Never on the second.
20100409 17:07:07< Unnheulu> ok
20100409 17:07:09< Unnheulu> nevermind
20100409 17:07:23< Unnheulu> ghyr-easeus: bleep me here when its my turn
20100409 17:07:31< Unnheulu> 'cos I won't be paying attention :P
20100409 17:07:40< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: your turn
20100409 17:07:44< Unnheulu> ok
20100409 17:07:45< Unnheulu> ;)
20100409 17:07:53< Gambit> Wait I thought 1.8 allowed desktop notifications for that?
20100409 17:08:00< Gambit> I think I read that somewhere...
20100409 17:08:12< Unnheulu> Not sure
20100409 17:08:15< ghyr-easeus> Gambit: he doesn't enabled them
20100409 17:08:16< Unnheulu> I'll check options
20100409 17:08:40< ghyr-easeus> your turn
20100409 17:09:08< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: 50% XP requirement?
20100409 17:09:12< Unnheulu> 70
20100409 17:09:15< Unnheulu> nothing in options
20100409 17:09:24< Gambit> Maybe it was slated for 1.9
20100409 17:09:30< Gambit> I know I read that somewhere.
20100409 17:09:45< Gambit> Or maybe it was nothing more than a feature request.
20100409 17:10:46< Unnheulu> my turn
20100409 17:10:56< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: yes
20100409 17:11:53< Unnheulu> THere is a sound effect
20100409 17:11:57< Unnheulu> Don't bother telling me :P
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20100409 17:13:23< Unnheulu> Gambit: https://www.jonespenarth.me.uk/Screenshot-Amazolians.png
20100409 17:13:35< Unnheulu> Something I worked on last year, but, couldn't be bothered to finish
20100409 17:14:22< ghyr-easeus> your turn
20100409 17:16:03< mrkew2> How many campaigns have you completed?
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20100409 17:16:58< ghyr-easeus> your turn
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20100409 17:18:55< Unnheulu> ghyr-easeus: don't bother telling me :P
20100409 17:19:35< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: ok
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20100409 17:47:57< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: revenge?
20100409 17:48:07< Unnheulu> But
20100409 17:48:17< Unnheulu> I promised I'd do something with my bro's...
20100409 17:48:25< Unnheulu> meh, go on
20100409 17:48:26< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: okay
20100409 17:48:34< Unnheulu> rematch ;)
20100409 17:49:43< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: created
20100409 17:49:49< Unnheulu> I already had...
20100409 17:50:05< ghyr-easeus> Unnheulu: connect!
20100409 17:50:18< Unnheulu> The lobbies glitched ;)
20100409 17:51:16< Gambit> Really?
20100409 17:51:22< Unnheulu> Duuh
20100409 17:51:41< Unnheulu> ghyr-easeus: whats the game called?
20100409 17:51:51< Gambit> Battle For Wesnoth
20100409 17:52:46< Unnheulu> ...
20100409 17:52:48< Unnheulu> very funny
20100409 17:53:42< Unnheulu> It keeps crashing...
20100409 17:53:46< Unnheulu> ghyr-easeus: Can I host?
20100409 17:53:53< Gambit> Oh that would be the perfect april fools...
20100409 17:54:00< Gambit> Announce that you're renaming the game.
20100409 17:54:09< Gambit> People would go bonkers.
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20100409 17:54:49< Gambit> Irdya<->Wesnoth
20100409 17:55:02< Unnheulu> =D
20100409 17:55:03< Gambit> Battle for Irdya. A continent on the planet of Wesnoth. :)
20100409 17:55:25< Gambit> *continent->region
20100409 17:55:31< Gambit> Or something...
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20100409 17:55:35 * Unnheulu goes fetches his laptop charger
20100409 17:55:44< Unnheulu> elias: wuts allegro? :P
20100409 17:55:50< Gambit> Roll over
20100409 17:55:58< Blarumyrran> that doesn't even rhyme, Unnheulu 
20100409 17:56:08< Unnheulu> Gambit: https://www.jonespenarth.me.uk/ieuan/Screenshot-Amazolians.png
20100409 17:56:20< Gambit> Unnheulu: 404
20100409 17:56:26< Unnheulu> 2secs
20100409 17:56:38< Unnheulu> https://www.jonespenarth.me.uk/~ieuan/Screenshot-Amazolians.png
20100409 17:56:46< Unnheulu> I was making that years ago ;D
20100409 17:56:47< Unnheulu> *last year
20100409 17:56:52< Gambit> LOL
20100409 17:56:56< Gambit> that looks about like mine
20100409 17:57:00< Unnheulu> ;P
20100409 17:57:13< Unnheulu> You can blame my brother for the art^^
20100409 17:57:56< Gambit> http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee60/Howling_Mad_Murdock/petsscreeny.jpg
20100409 17:58:42< Unnheulu> Is that yours?
20100409 17:58:45< Gambit> Yes.
20100409 17:58:48< Gambit> The VB one.
20100409 17:58:49< Unnheulu> neat
20100409 17:59:08< Gambit> the start of a web port for browserbasedness: http://grickit.blogspot.com/2010/01/map-exploration-in-browser.html
20100409 17:59:14< elias> Unnheulu: a C library, similar to SDL
20100409 17:59:20< Gambit> scroll to bottom for screenshot.
20100409 17:59:20< Unnheulu> elias: ok
20100409 17:59:26< Gambit> CFML.
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20100409 17:59:38< Unnheulu> Gambit: https://www.jonespenarth.me.uk/~ieuan/rpg/code/map2.py thats how simple the maps are :D
20100409 17:59:43< Unnheulu> no trouble with python :P
20100409 18:00:09< Blarumyrran> Oh i thought "what's allegro" was a really bad pun on "what's up"
20100409 18:00:25< Gambit> The problem wasn't so much making the maps, as feeding them into the part that lets you walk on them.
20100409 18:00:51< Unnheulu> Whats the lib used for making the maps?
20100409 18:01:07< elias> Blarumyrran: oh, maybe it was... I assumed his irc client shows the other channels i'm in when I joined so interpreted it differently
20100409 18:01:18< Gambit> eh?
20100409 18:01:25< Unnheulu> huh?
20100409 18:01:33< Unnheulu> You have a cloak ;)
20100409 18:01:36< Gambit> elias: actually it shows you as being @allegro/developer
20100409 18:01:41< Gambit> Your cloak.
20100409 18:01:41< elias> ah
20100409 18:01:43< elias> heh
20100409 18:01:58< Gambit> Unnheulu: "Whats the lib used for making the maps?" ??
20100409 18:02:12< Unnheulu> On your site
20100409 18:02:18< Unnheulu> that you linked to ;)
20100409 18:02:23< Gambit> I dunno what you mean. :(
20100409 18:02:33< Unnheulu> http://grickit.blogspot.com/2010/01/map-exploration-in-browser.html
20100409 18:02:40< Gambit> It uses ColdFusion to generate HTML tables.
20100409 18:02:48< Unnheulu> oh ok :P
20100409 18:02:52< Unnheulu> that's simpler^^
20100409 18:03:11 * Unnheulu fins using tables torture
20100409 18:03:28< Unnheulu> Especially if your program needs to export to html
20100409 18:03:35< Gambit> The screeny at the top is just MS Excel
20100409 18:03:44< Gambit> The bottom one is the actual map how you see it in the browser.
20100409 18:03:54< Unnheulu> Yeh, I worked that much out
20100409 18:04:06< Unnheulu> Gambit: get a real OS if your gonna code :P
20100409 18:04:20< Gambit> I use Excel to make the maps because the cell rules let me visualize it while puttin in the terrain codes.
20100409 18:04:29< Gambit> Then I export that to a database.
20100409 18:04:32< Gambit> An access database.
20100409 18:04:37< Gambit> Cause real men dislike mySQL
20100409 18:04:49< Gambit> Unnheulu: I have a real OS>
20100409 18:04:57< Gambit> The only real PC OS :P
20100409 18:05:17< Sacho> that made no sense.
20100409 18:05:21< Blarumyrran> Os/2?
20100409 18:05:27< Gambit> Blarumyrran: Multix!
20100409 18:05:55< Gambit> Sacho: Which bit?
20100409 18:05:57< Blarumyrran> what
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20100409 18:08:07< Gambit> Blarumyrran: What what?
20100409 18:08:16< Blarumyrran> What is Multix
20100409 18:08:26< Gambit> An operating system.
20100409 18:10:48< Gambit> IIUC it's where UNIX came from.
20100409 18:11:28< Blarumyrran> I see something called Multics
20100409 18:11:39< Blarumyrran> I suppose it's the same thing
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20100409 18:12:16< Gambit> Yeah.
20100409 18:13:15< Gambit> UNIX is the single task version of Multix.
20100409 18:13:47< Gambit> or something like that.
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20100409 18:19:27< Gambit> Blarumyrran: Everything sounds cooler with an X.
20100409 18:19:37< Gambit> slap it on anywere
20100409 18:21:32-!- Blarumyrran is now known as xXxBlarumyrranxX
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20100409 18:22:01< Blarumyrran> No :/
20100409 18:24:59< Gambit> http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/XMakesAnythingCool
20100409 18:27:52< Blarumyrran> Reminds me, I haven't played Liero Xtreme a few years now
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20100409 18:59:56< Gambit> today is _not_ a short school day after all
20100409 18:59:59< Gambit> chuck femistry.
20100409 19:00:51< shadowmaster> the correct name was Multics, not Multix
20100409 19:01:12< Blarumyrran> says someone without X is his nick
20100409 19:01:18< Blarumyrran> You're not cool enough to be listened to
20100409 19:01:22< Unnheulu> hi sm
20100409 19:01:33< shadowmaster> Blarumyrran: neither are you.
20100409 19:01:37< Blarumyrran> s/is/in
20100409 19:01:47< shadowmaster> no, your short nick switch above doesn't help matters
20100409 19:01:56< Blarumyrran> :(
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20100409 19:02:09< shadowmaster> you used to be cool, however.
20100409 19:02:18< Blarumyrran> I am siding with the cool guys here though
20100409 19:02:40< Blarumyrran> And fighting against uncool guys like you. I collaborate, and get a piece of their coolness by proxy
20100409 19:03:10< Unnheulu> Gambit: I'm gonna continue working on that project I sent you a screeny of
20100409 19:03:21< Unnheulu> although it looks like someones spewed on the screen :S
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20100409 19:03:45< artisticdude> bad screen capture software?
20100409 19:03:55< Unnheulu> At least I've got a working map editor
20100409 19:04:01< Blarumyrran> What is "screen capture software"
20100409 19:04:07 * Unnheulu shrugs
20100409 19:04:12< Unnheulu> is it like gtkrecordmydesktop?
20100409 19:04:35< artisticdude> it's an app that allows you to capture the screen
20100409 19:04:40< artisticdude> or just one window
20100409 19:04:45< Unnheulu> app...
20100409 19:04:47< Blarumyrran> OS manages that though?
20100409 19:04:55< Unnheulu> Your a mac user...
20100409 19:04:56< artisticdude> yep
20100409 19:05:10< artisticdude> I'm on a mac, but windows has that feature as well
20100409 19:05:25< Unnheulu> They aren't called "apps" on windows...
20100409 19:05:30< Unnheulu> Or on linux for that matter
20100409 19:05:42< artisticdude> yeah, I know
20100409 19:05:45< Blarumyrran> The "software" that if I press the print screen button, a bitmpa of the current screen is pasted to clipboard?
20100409 19:05:46< shadowmaster> "applications" -> "apps"
20100409 19:05:53< artisticdude> I'm used to the term, though :)
20100409 19:06:04< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: and I don't gree with you
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20100409 19:06:15< shadowmaster> erm, agree
20100409 19:06:21< Unnheulu> on what?
20100409 19:06:27< shadowmaster> on that they aren't called "apps"
20100409 19:06:32< Unnheulu> meh
20100409 19:06:38< shadowmaster> "appwiz.cpl"
20100409 19:06:46< artisticdude> it's mac slang :P
20100409 19:07:15< Unnheulu> artisticdude: https://www.jonespenarth.me.uk/~ieuan/Screenshot-Amazolians-1.png
20100409 19:07:22< Unnheulu> That's what I mean by looks like someones spewed on the screen
20100409 19:07:52< Unnheulu> eg I coded it in like 2 days, so you can pretty much just move around, make maps, and nothing else
20100409 19:08:07< artisticdude> I get a message saying the site's certificate can't be verified. Security risk. :(
20100409 19:08:16< Unnheulu> Oh, and there is nothing stopping you from off the map
20100409 19:08:19< Unnheulu> artisticdude: who cares?
20100409 19:08:23< Unnheulu> I'm hardly a security risk
20100409 19:08:36< Unnheulu> I just don't wanna pay out for a security certificate
20100409 19:09:20< artisticdude> Interesting...
20100409 19:09:36< Unnheulu> Anyhow, that's what I mean by someones spewed on the screen :D
20100409 19:10:10< artisticdude> It does kinda look like someone spewed on it... :P
20100409 19:10:17< Unnheulu> =)
20100409 19:10:39< Unnheulu> the two tiles without words were literally just gimp filters
20100409 19:12:21< Gambit> This summer shadowmaster is The Uncool.
20100409 19:12:21< artisticdude> Blarumyrran: what do you think of that Osare game? Does it have potential?
20100409 19:12:58< shadowmaster> with Gambit as The Lame Fanboy
20100409 19:13:13< Gambit> Fanboys fan without reason.
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20100409 19:13:30 * shadowmaster hits Gambit with a huge fan
20100409 19:13:30< Gambit> It's like religion vs science.
20100409 19:13:41< Gambit> Xbox 360 fans are "fanboys"
20100409 19:13:47< Gambit> Shadowmaster fans are "logical"
20100409 19:13:57< Unnheulu> including peterporty?
20100409 19:14:14< Gambit> *+In that one aspect of their existence
20100409 19:14:43< artisticdude> I saw this show last night about a 7 year old kid who stole the family car
20100409 19:14:49< artisticdude> just to avoid going to church.
20100409 19:15:00< Unnheulu> :O
20100409 19:15:04 * Unnheulu facepalms
20100409 19:15:21< Unnheulu> I created new images to avoid having to scale them. Maaaan
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20100409 19:17:51< Unnheulu> hmm, this code is confusing, why did I never use comments? >.>
20100409 19:18:08< Gambit> comments are for tossers.
20100409 19:18:24< Gambit> You'll decipher it eventually.
20100409 19:18:34< Unnheulu> :P
20100409 19:18:51< Unnheulu> From what I can see I'm scaling but not blitting (This is another program that I'm using for reference)
20100409 19:19:01< Gambit> As will anyone worthy of messing with your code. ;)
20100409 19:19:15< Unnheulu> Gambit: http://pastebin.org/143234
20100409 19:19:19< Unnheulu> Decipher that :P
20100409 19:19:33< Gambit> Nope.
20100409 19:19:39< Unnheulu> Exactly ;)
20100409 19:19:49< Gambit> Hey. I don't know the language.
20100409 19:19:56< Unnheulu> hehe
20100409 19:20:45< shadowmaster> Gambit: http://blog.dixo.net/2009/09/15/pastebin-org-considered-harmful/
20100409 19:20:52 * Gambit not worthy?
20100409 19:20:53< shadowmaster> er, Unnheulu , not Gambit 
20100409 19:21:21< shadowmaster> no idea whether it applies nowadays, or how true that was.
20100409 19:21:29< Unnheulu> *yawn*
20100409 19:21:43< Unnheulu> for some reason, I've not been infected by a win32 virus :P
20100409 19:22:07< Gambit> Great. Thanks alot Unnheulu.
20100409 19:22:13< Gambit> shadowmaster: AVG has found nothing.
20100409 19:22:27< Unnheulu> if you used a real os then it wouldn't matter ;)
20100409 19:22:33< Unnheulu> (Unless of course, you run a mailserver)
20100409 19:22:37< shadowmaster> I still prefer pastebin.com since its former owner wrote the software behind pastebin.org
20100409 19:23:00< Gambit> Unnheulu: no software on your OS.
20100409 19:23:04< Unnheulu> pastebin.org looks cooler ..>
20100409 19:23:23< Unnheulu> Gambit: actually, I'm being hypocritical, there are linux viruses
20100409 19:23:27< Unnheulu> Just not many
20100409 19:23:39< Gambit> Same. There's linux software.
20100409 19:23:44< Gambit> Just not much. har har
20100409 19:23:54 * Unnheulu loads of synaptic
20100409 19:24:39< Unnheulu> In the Ubuntu/Debian repository alone there are over 23242 packages
20100409 19:24:55< Unnheulu> (Althougto as much software, a lot of that is libs)
20100409 19:24:58< Unnheulu> *Although
20100409 19:25:23< Unnheulu> And wesnoth is made up of 21 packages :s
20100409 19:25:38< Unnheulu> Rhonda: Why so many!?
20100409 19:25:53< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: not all people need the campaigns for example
20100409 19:26:10< shadowmaster> I've met users who play exclusively on the MP server
20100409 19:26:11< Unnheulu> Not that that'd save much space
20100409 19:26:24< shadowmaster> you can choose not to install the music
20100409 19:26:31< Unnheulu> Or the editor :/
20100409 19:26:46 * Unnheulu wonders what happens if you don't install the editor and try running it from the ingame button
20100409 19:26:46< shadowmaster> the editor is part of the same executable since 1.5.x
20100409 19:27:04< Unnheulu> My pc is so old its 1.4.5 in the repo...
20100409 19:27:07< shadowmaster> the package "wesnoth-editor" in Debian (testing) is a transitional package
20100409 19:27:10< Unnheulu> I'm gonna upgrade later^^
20100409 19:27:14< shadowmaster> (1.6.5-1)
20100409 19:27:18< Unnheulu> (Eg later this month)
20100409 19:28:26< shadowmaster> also, not everyone plays MP so not everyone needs to install wesnothd (wesnoth-server). In fact, even MP players might not require it unless they plan to host games on a LAN or something.
20100409 19:28:47< shadowmaster> the mainenance tools are useful exclusively to add-on authors and maintainers
20100409 19:29:03< shadowmaster> there, I covered all wesnoth packages in Debian testing with the above
20100409 19:29:35< shadowmaster> (and one metapackage)
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20100409 19:29:42< Unnheulu> :O
20100409 19:30:23< Unnheulu> humm
20100409 19:30:32< Unnheulu> I need to move my parser out of the blitting function
20100409 19:30:35< Unnheulu> food :D
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20100409 19:38:52< Unnheulu> eww this is ugly
20100409 19:39:10< Unnheulu> Everytime the maps loaded, the game reloads *everything*
20100409 19:39:27< Unnheulu> And it converts the images *every time it draws a tile*
20100409 19:39:29< Unnheulu> Ouch
20100409 19:39:40 * Unnheulu will have to rip this apart to fix it
20100409 19:40:11< Jarkko_> Unnheulu: What're you doing?
20100409 19:40:26< Unnheulu> Jarkko_: coding an rpg I started last year
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20100409 19:40:39< Jarkko_> Ah
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20100409 19:41:22< Unnheulu> wanna screeny?
20100409 19:42:01< Jarkko_> Go ahead. :)
20100409 19:42:17< Gambit> You know something...
20100409 19:42:21< Gambit> Danny California came back.
20100409 19:42:26< Gambit> I completely forgot until just now.
20100409 19:42:44< shadowmaster> Gambit: DannyC? Now?
20100409 19:42:52< Gambit> No. Several months ago.
20100409 19:43:03< Unnheulu> Jarkko_: https://www.jonespenarth.me.uk/~ieuan/Screenshot-Amazolians-1.png
20100409 19:43:05< shadowmaster> "October 5th, 2009, 2:13 am"
20100409 19:43:06< Unnheulu> Its kinda ugly
20100409 19:43:20< shadowmaster> Gambit: I knew that already :|
20100409 19:43:23< Gambit> 12/12/2009
20100409 19:43:25< shadowmaster> he hasn't visied since then though
20100409 19:43:28< Gambit> Oh okay.
20100409 19:43:36< shadowmaster> er, since "October 5th, 2009, 2:13 am"
20100409 19:43:42< shadowmaster> [ http://forums.wesnoth.org/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&un=DannyC ]
20100409 19:43:47< Gambit> No. It was a completely different name.
20100409 19:43:54< Gambit> He signed up and posted in off topic to let us know
20100409 19:44:00< shadowmaster> ah wit.
20100409 19:44:02< Gambit> I just can't remember who it was.
20100409 19:44:14< shadowmaster> yeah, I'm targetting the wrong..."odd user"
20100409 19:44:24 * Gambit is reading AIM logs.
20100409 19:44:29< shadowmaster> MrTristan
20100409 19:44:48< Unnheulu> shadowmaster: you don't post on shikadilord anymore?
20100409 19:44:54< Jarkko_> Unnheulu: A toast for temporary graphics :D
20100409 19:44:59< shadowmaster> [ http://forums.wesnoth.org/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&un=MrTristan ]
20100409 19:45:06< Unnheulu> Not temporary, their the best I can do^^
20100409 19:45:20< Unnheulu> the head is the best I can do
20100409 19:45:25< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: well, I haven't had much to post since long ago
20100409 19:45:36< Unnheulu> *the head is temporary
20100409 19:45:41< Unnheulu> shadowmaster: Ah kay
20100409 19:45:44< shadowmaster> I'm not going to give my opinions on stuff in the forums since it's generally worthless
20100409 19:45:50 * Unnheulu read the umc logs^^
20100409 19:46:37< Unnheulu> Jarkko_: at least its better than the wesnoth 0.1 graphics (just about) :S
20100409 19:46:59 * Gambit intentionally misinterperets shadowmaster's last statement
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20100409 19:47:26< shadowmaster> Gambit: no, I don't mean that the artwork, etc. produced is worthless
20100409 19:47:39< shadowmaster> it's just that airing my opinions on them is worthless
20100409 19:47:39< Unnheulu> hehe
20100409 19:47:56< Gambit> Oh. Well then actually I guess I interpereted it dead on.
20100409 19:48:04< Unnheulu> But, on shikadilord you can annoy people^^
20100409 19:48:11< Jarkko_> Unnheulu: It might actually look good in a sort of "unpolished" way, if you removed the texts from the tiles ;)
20100409 19:48:17< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: ...
20100409 19:48:19< Unnheulu> If it gets banned you unban him
20100409 19:48:34< shadowmaster> no, ShikadiLord can't get banned unless I decide to ban myself
20100409 19:48:39< Gambit> Are you suggesting he would abuse his position? ;)
20100409 19:48:48< Unnheulu> Jarkko_: hehe, I'm planning on fiddling with filters to make those worse ;)
20100409 19:48:56< Unnheulu> Gambit: Doesn't he always?
20100409 19:49:08< Jarkko_> Unnheulu: Or then you get an artist :P
20100409 19:49:09 * Unnheulu abuses his position as an xmoto mod
20100409 19:49:35< Unnheulu> Jarkko_: I wouldn't let anyone do art, as its not finished, and may not be in a playable state for ages
20100409 19:49:47< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: there's plenty of room for abuse but I didn't come to a position to use those exra powers for anything but keeping the forum in one piece
20100409 19:49:49< Unnheulu> they would be wasting their time
20100409 19:50:04< Unnheulu> shadowmaster: but that's boring!
20100409 19:50:07< Unnheulu> :P
20100409 19:50:15< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: which was particularly important at that time since a) Turuk didn't have the technical skills (sorry); and b) cycholka was MIA
20100409 19:50:28 * Unnheulu just realised that he's never ever banned someone
20100409 19:50:44< Unnheulu> Turuk's disappeared :/
20100409 19:50:53< Gambit> I've banned two people.
20100409 19:50:54< Jarkko_> Umh... basically if a mod acts abusively, contrary to what is expected from a mod - doesn't they just encourage all the bad behaviour?
20100409 19:50:57< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: I'm talking of February 2009
20100409 19:51:00< Gambit> One was sending strange emails to all females on the forum.
20100409 19:51:04< Unnheulu> shadowmaster: ah
20100409 19:51:08< Gambit> The other cussed out one of the other mods.
20100409 19:51:20< Unnheulu> Gambit: where was that?
20100409 19:51:29< Gambit> My school's unnoficial student forum.
20100409 19:51:31 * Unnheulu isn't an xmoto forum mod
20100409 19:51:35< Unnheulu> ah kay
20100409 19:51:56< Gambit> We force users to verify that they're part of the school before they can join.
20100409 19:52:02< Gambit> Somehow a pervert got into our school :s
20100409 19:52:05< Unnheulu> Gambit: how d'they do that?
20100409 19:52:30< Gambit> Unnheulu: The school has a closed webmail system. They students can send us their forum username through that so we know to activate their account.
20100409 19:52:39< Gambit> Until it's activated they can't read, view, or post anything.
20100409 19:53:12< Unnheulu> Gambit: that's safe as long as the schools secure
20100409 19:53:26< Gambit> It is. I tried emailing into and out of it.
20100409 19:53:59< Gambit> They are real addresses, but the messages get stopped.
20100409 19:54:11< Unnheulu> I mean
20100409 19:54:21< Unnheulu> As long as people can't hack the school webmail
20100409 19:54:45< Gambit> Well then there are bigger problems.
20100409 19:55:02< Gambit> Like... all the personal information.
20100409 19:55:05< Gambit> lol
20100409 19:55:26< Unnheulu> shadowmaster: there is a way to create temporary files in python, which might be cleaner than how we're doing it right now
20100409 19:55:33< Unnheulu> (big might)
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20100409 19:56:05< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: I noticed
20100409 19:56:17< Unnheulu> did you? fair enough ;p
20100409 19:56:38< shadowmaster> however, it will give a file descriptor back and I don't know if cairo can load a PNG file directly from an already opened file
20100409 19:56:54< shadowmaster> that and I'm talking nonsense.
20100409 19:56:55< Unnheulu> meh ok then
20100409 19:56:59< Unnheulu> :D
20100409 19:57:18< shadowmaster> I mean, there's a way to open a new temporary file for writing...it will give the file descriptor back
20100409 19:57:40< shadowmaster> that is not helpful for wesnoth-tc unless it was forked directly from the GUI script and we could guarantee it'd inherit that descriptor
20100409 19:57:42< Unnheulu> Although, correct me if I'm wrong, but, that kind of stuff would have to be done in the wesnoth-tc program
20100409 19:57:44< shadowmaster> that is not possible on Windows
20100409 19:57:54< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: no
20100409 19:58:02< shadowmaster> well, yes, but
20100409 19:58:25< Unnheulu> It seems to me though that wesnoth-tc dumps the images into the working directory
20100409 19:58:26< shadowmaster> wesnoth-tc should be able to be told to write its output to a file with a user-specified name, or stdout (I'm working on both!)
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20100409 19:58:49< Unnheulu> the stdout would fix that problem then
20100409 19:58:51< shadowmaster> however, it's the caller that must figure out the output filename still
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20100409 19:59:14< shadowmaster> yeah, I'm on it
20100409 20:02:03< Unnheulu> shadowmaster: also, wesnoth-tc doesn't warn you if its about to overwrite a file
20100409 20:02:23< shadowmaster> yeah, that's a feature
20100409 20:02:29< Unnheulu> Is it?
20100409 20:02:36< shadowmaster> I'm assuming I'm talking with a Unixish OS user
20100409 20:02:45< Gambit> That's a Feature (tm)
20100409 20:03:06< shadowmaster> I'm not going to implement such sugar as "-f" or Windows' "really want to do this [y/n]?" shit
20100409 20:03:26< shadowmaster> feel free to submit a patch but I'm not going to do it myself
20100409 20:03:31< Unnheulu> But, would it be so hard as to add a (1) onto the end or something?
20100409 20:03:44< shadowmaster> no, but I don't care
20100409 20:03:47< Gambit> "Are you sure you want to open this treasure chest?" - on the only treasure chest in the game that actually gives you treasure and doesn't just spawn monsters.
20100409 20:03:55< Unnheulu> :D
20100409 20:04:38< Unnheulu> shadowmaster: could you just say in the output, Warning, overwriting file, so that anyone making a gui can add "such sugar" on top?
20100409 20:05:16< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: no, you can do that yourself >D
20100409 20:05:21< shadowmaster> >:D
20100409 20:05:31< Unnheulu> ^_^
20100409 20:05:40< Unnheulu> I'm rubbsih at C++! :P
20100409 20:05:42< shadowmaster> I mean, you can predict wesnoth-tc's naming scheme already and check for files' existence
20100409 20:05:50< shadowmaster> in the frontend that is
20100409 20:05:57< Unnheulu> I got to where it started explaining pointers and gave up cause it was too complicated^^
20100409 20:06:08< Unnheulu> Yeh, that much I could do
20100409 20:06:13< shadowmaster> you are lazy
20100409 20:06:21< shadowmaster> try learning C#
20100409 20:06:33< shadowmaster> or Jav.
20100409 20:06:34 * Unnheulu 's cousin knows C#
20100409 20:06:36< shadowmaster> *Java
20100409 20:06:38< Unnheulu> I'm learning java :P
20100409 20:06:50< shadowmaster> then you'd be able to learn C# with ease afterwards
20100409 20:07:03< Unnheulu> my cousin made the morrowind graphic extender/oblivion mod manager :/
20100409 20:07:13< Unnheulu> I'll beg him to teach me it when I next see him^^
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20100409 20:07:56 * Unnheulu has a funny feeling it won't be that simple :/
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20100409 20:09:03< c_korn> hello. I am currently trying to create a Debian package for the Ubuntu gaming page playdeb.net of your wonderful new release.
20100409 20:09:07< Unnheulu> Ugh, loading all the images in 2 lines seems like it might not be happening if I sort stuff into folders >.>
20100409 20:09:12< Gambit> I gave up at linked lists.
20100409 20:09:23< Unnheulu> c_korn: hasn't Rhonda already done that?
20100409 20:09:29< Gambit> I learned them.
20100409 20:09:31< Gambit> But then I gave up.
20100409 20:09:35< Unnheulu> If not, you'll want to talk to him about that
20100409 20:09:53 * Gambit has a sneaking suspicion that Rhonda is female.
20100409 20:10:30 * shadowmaster punches Gambit 
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20100409 20:10:36< shadowmaster> I *am* Captain Obvious here
20100409 20:10:43< Unnheulu> Gambit: there's a picture of him jumping on his website ;)
20100409 20:10:49< Unnheulu> Unless that's not him/her :/
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20100409 20:11:03< Gambit> Yeah you better run!
20100409 20:11:14< Unnheulu|Laptop> Hmm?
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20100409 20:11:55< shadowmaster> Gambit: linked lists work on a very basic principle...what do you mean by giving up?
20100409 20:12:35< Gambit> shadowmaster: I learned them. :@
20100409 20:12:39< Gambit> But that was the last lesson.
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20100409 20:12:44< c_korn> hm, I only see packages for 1.7.14: http://packages.debian.org/experimental/wesnoth
20100409 20:12:49< Gambit> And I didn't feel like persuing the language past that class.
20100409 20:13:17< shadowmaster> c_korn: well, the packager has limited hardware
20100409 20:14:00< shadowmaster> and maintains a few other packages for Debian, and Wesnoth is freakin' huge, and...
20100409 20:15:22< Gambit> and then there is "the latest project".
20100409 20:15:33< Unnheulu|Laptop> shadowmaster, Rhonda has I'm pretty certain
20100409 20:16:28< shadowmaster> Unnheulu|Laptop: what?
20100409 20:17:06< Unnheulu|Laptop> Made a deb
20100409 20:17:14< Unnheulu|Laptop> he/she directed hoftel to it
20100409 20:17:48< shadowmaster> of 1.8? possibly
20100409 20:17:49< c_korn> where did she publish them ? she does not have a PPA on launchpad
20100409 20:18:06< shadowmaster> maybe she couldn't upload it to experimental due to the server breakage at the end of March
20100409 20:18:24< shadowmaster> and hasn't had time since then
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20100409 20:20:33< Gambit> Hi shadowm_laptop
20100409 20:20:36< Unnheulu|Laptop> I know she couldn't upload it to ubuntu due to the close proximity to its release
20100409 20:20:46< Unnheulu|Laptop> (Who's Alphie btw)
20100409 20:20:52< Unnheulu|Laptop> argh, brb
20100409 20:25:28< shadowmaster> yays, irssi 0.8.15 is in sid! \o/
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20100409 20:29:42< Gambit> little big planet time
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20100409 20:36:12< Unnheulu|Laptop> back
20100409 20:37:46< Unnheulu|Laptop> yay 4 lines to print the names of all the pngs in folders inside the art folder
20100409 20:37:49< Unnheulu|Laptop> ah crud
20100409 20:38:00< Unnheulu|Laptop> if I add another layer of folders it won't work
20100409 20:38:22< Unnheulu|Laptop> meh, ah well, I just won't do that
20100409 20:38:49< sevis> Err... 'locate art*.png' ?
20100409 20:39:29< Unnheulu|Laptop> sevis, is that python?
20100409 20:39:33< Unnheulu|Laptop> If it is...
20100409 20:40:13< Unnheulu|Laptop> at the moment I'm looping through all the entries in a folder
20100409 20:40:13< sevis> No, that's bash.
20100409 20:40:26< Unnheulu|Laptop> exactly :P
20100409 20:40:31< Unnheulu|Laptop> bash doesn't work on windows
20100409 20:40:40< shadowmaster> it does
20100409 20:41:00< sevis> Oh, hm. That's a problem, I think.
20100409 20:41:08< sevis> And no symlinks, too, afaik. :\
20100409 20:41:50< shadowmaster> cygwin, mingw32, win-bash
20100409 20:45:57< Unnheulu|Laptop> shadowmaster, you told me rm -f didn't work -.-
20100409 20:46:06< shadowmaster> Unnheulu|Laptop: yes
20100409 20:46:16< shadowmaster> and that's right, because most people won't have this stuff installed
20100409 20:46:17< Unnheulu|Laptop> So if that doesn't work, why should locate?
20100409 20:46:23< Unnheulu|Laptop> Ah ok
20100409 20:46:51< shadowmaster> and if you want to use coreutils on windows, you can
20100409 20:47:23 * Unnheulu|Laptop doesn't think bash works on haiku^^
20100409 20:47:26< Unnheulu|Laptop> Or MikeOS
20100409 20:47:35< Unnheulu|Laptop> lawl MikeOS
20100409 20:47:53< shadowmaster> haiku uses Bash
20100409 20:48:00< sevis> Hm. That, plus an alternative for explorer, and the difference between the systems will be less noticeable.
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20100409 20:48:19< shadowmaster> Unnheulu|Laptop: do you ever make sure you know what you are talking about? :/
20100409 20:48:38< Unnheulu|Laptop> nope
20100409 20:48:40< Unnheulu|Laptop> =)
20100409 20:48:53< Unnheulu|Laptop> wait, does it?
20100409 20:48:56< shadowmaster> yes
20100409 20:48:57< Unnheulu|Laptop> >.<
20100409 20:49:09< Unnheulu|Laptop> That would've made things soooo much easier for me when I was using it
20100409 20:49:38< shadowmaster> http://www.haiku-os.org/docs/userguide/en/bash-scripting.html
20100409 20:49:58 * Unnheulu|Laptop sighs
20100409 20:50:01< shadowmaster> they wouldn't waste time on such a page if they didn't have bash.
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20100409 20:50:37< sevis> Unnheulu, what's MikeOS, and why is it lawl?
20100409 20:53:41< Unnheulu|Laptop> sevis, its made by a guy who writes for the linux format
20100409 20:53:54< Unnheulu|Laptop> Its has a development team of like a few people
20100409 20:54:07< Unnheulu|Laptop> Although as shadowmaster said, I don't check my facts so I could be wrong
20100409 20:54:22< shadowmaster> what is the "linux format"?
20100409 20:55:08< Unnheulu|Laptop> a british linux magazine
20100409 20:55:10< sevis> Indeed, what Linux format, and again, why is it lawl?
20100409 20:55:13< sevis> Ahh.
20100409 20:55:36 * shadowmaster goes back home
20100409 20:55:40< Unnheulu|Laptop> Last I checked it hardly had a gui at all (one was being tested)
20100409 20:55:44< Unnheulu|Laptop> C'ya in a few hours
20100409 20:55:50< sevis> See you.
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20100409 21:16:23< Leather_Pants> I'm not wearing leather pants, and I never would.
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20100409 21:17:16< Samwise> lol Leather_Pants wtf
20100409 21:17:20< Unnheulu> Leather_Pants: Yes I know
20100409 21:17:24< Unnheulu> Your weird
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20100409 21:35:44< Rigor> hi all
20100409 21:36:13< Unnheulu> hiah
20100409 21:36:37< Rigor> didtn u write a post with a replay
20100409 21:37:41< Unnheulu> Yeh
20100409 21:37:47< Unnheulu> Where I did really bad?
20100409 21:38:32< Rigor> couldnt view it
20100409 21:38:39< Rigor> said old version during turns
20100409 21:38:54< Unnheulu> uhuh
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20100409 21:55:11< SpoOkyMagician> hello all
20100409 21:57:03< Rigor> HI
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20100409 22:09:52< Unnheulu> impressive enough SekoIdiootti? =)
20100409 22:10:00< SekoIdiootti> :'(
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20100409 22:10:42< Unnheulu> Anyhow, SekoIdiootti I have map making/loading sorted (other than  some "minor" scaling issues
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20100409 22:11:02< Gambit> Unnheulu: No. Not impressive enough.
20100409 22:11:04< Gambit> More streamers!
20100409 22:11:29< Unnheulu> Gambit: I was mentioning in response to my storming out of #egoboo^^
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20100409 22:12:20< SekoIdiootti> http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=420674#p420674 (sorry, I just have to give a link to it...)
20100409 22:12:48< Gambit> I also think that might be your best.
20100409 22:12:51< Gambit> But I'm not sure.
20100409 22:13:11< SekoIdiootti> :)
20100409 22:13:21< SekoIdiootti> do you know what it is? xD
20100409 22:13:53< Gambit> It's a clearly a gaint half turned inside-out sardine
20100409 22:14:22< Gambit> or shadowmster's mom :o
20100409 22:14:36< SekoIdiootti> LOL! Both wrong. It's... a squid thing.
20100409 22:14:37 * Gambit flees
20100409 22:14:42< SekoIdiootti> with legs.
20100409 22:14:53< SekoIdiootti> lol *Gambit flees with legs.*
20100409 22:15:17< Gambit> lol
20100409 22:15:45< Gambit> It's got legs. It knows how to use them.
20100409 22:15:51< Gambit> ^^ the squid thing
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20100409 22:30:14< PetePorty> Hello guys...
20100409 22:30:23< SekoIdiootti> hi
20100409 22:30:37< PetePorty> yay! first time someone says hi to me!
20100409 22:30:43< c_korn> is it a known problem that the ingame buttons do not work ? oO
20100409 22:30:53< PetePorty> they do work
20100409 22:30:55< PetePorty> all of em
20100409 22:31:00< c_korn> hm
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20100409 22:31:44< c_korn> then it has to be me
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20100409 22:32:10< PetePorty> yes
20100409 22:32:41< PetePorty> wait, what aint working for you?
20100409 22:32:54< PetePorty> like... specifically
20100409 22:33:21< c_korn> the envelope in the bottom right corner works. but the close button does not work.
20100409 22:34:12< PetePorty> uhhh...
20100409 22:34:37< PetePorty> I'm guessing you are using windows?
20100409 22:35:11< c_korn> I can check/uncheck the checkbox. but clicking on Okay nothing happens :/ http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/51394/screenshot_001_3qaZjr.png
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20100409 22:35:40< PetePorty> oh, ok
20100409 22:36:13< PetePorty> maybe you made a mistake while compiling?
20100409 22:37:03< c_korn> I used the autotools scripts
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20100409 22:37:10< c_korn> maybe they are not up-to-date
20100409 22:37:22< PetePorty> hmmm... probably.... 
20100409 22:37:39< c_korn> but can they cause the issue ?
20100409 22:37:42< PetePorty> I'm sorry, but I don't know what causing the problem..
20100409 22:37:55< SpoOkyMagician> hmm...
20100409 22:37:57< PetePorty> I play wesnoth on my windows...
20100409 22:38:04< PetePorty> the ubuntu is for work...
20100409 22:39:43< PetePorty> you should ask Gambit for help
20100409 22:39:52< PetePorty> Gambit: help the guy would you?
20100409 22:40:22< SekoIdiootti> I just posted some newer sprites to the first post of my sprite thread. So people are interested to see more, LOL.
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20100409 22:42:28< PetePorty> Gambit: you are mean...
20100409 22:43:18< SpoOkyMagician> fog/shroud are starting to annoy me...
20100409 22:44:07< PetePorty> they've always annoyed me
20100409 22:44:43< SpoOkyMagician> (trying to make a cutscene and its ruining it)
20100409 22:44:57< PetePorty> ·.·
20100409 22:46:18< c_korn> best I shut wait for Rhonda's packages to test them.
20100409 22:46:24< c_korn> s/shut/just/
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20100409 22:47:12< SpoOkyMagician> ill just disable fog/shroud and re-enable it i guess... >.< (i dont want to do it that way but i dont have much choice)
20100409 22:51:20< PetePorty> ·.·
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20100409 22:51:56< SekoIdiootti> http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=420684#p420684 (my nick is different there in the forums because of stuff)
20100409 22:52:08< SekoIdiootti> (and sorry I give that link again... but... well...)
20100409 22:52:17< Unnheulu|Laptop> *sigh*
20100409 22:52:22< Unnheulu|Laptop> Your weird?
20100409 22:52:29< SekoIdiootti> ...how so?
20100409 22:52:34< Unnheulu|Laptop> am I right?
20100409 22:52:38< SekoIdiootti> I meant it for others lol
20100409 22:52:55< Unnheulu|Laptop> That's what your always saying :/
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20100409 22:56:54< PetePorty> Oh, you're woodmouse!
20100409 22:56:57< PetePorty> hi :)
20100409 22:57:29< SekoIdiootti> yeah, I am
20100409 22:57:31< SekoIdiootti> hi
20100409 22:57:33< SekoIdiootti> lol
20100409 22:58:19< PetePorty> :)
20100409 22:59:30< c_korn> has wesnoth 1.8 been tested on Ubuntu or other distributions ?
20100409 22:59:52< PetePorty> nope
20100409 22:59:58< Unnheulu|Laptop> c_korn, the release candidates/svn work on ubuntu for me
20100409 23:00:00< PetePorty> well, maybe
20100409 23:00:04< PetePorty> dunno
20100409 23:00:07< Unnheulu|Laptop> think of release candidate as testing
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20100409 23:00:17< Unnheulu|Laptop> To remove all the bugs
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20100409 23:01:18< c_korn> Unnheulu|Laptop: what Ubuntu release do you use ?
20100409 23:01:28< Unnheulu|Laptop> lawl
20100409 23:01:32< Unnheulu|Laptop> Don't ask
20100409 23:01:41< PetePorty> 2.5?
20100409 23:01:55< Unnheulu|Laptop> 8.04
20100409 23:02:01< Unnheulu|Laptop> or something around then
20100409 23:02:24< c_korn> oh, ok
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20100409 23:02:34< c_korn> I am currently on the 10.04 beta :)
20100409 23:02:45< Unnheulu|Laptop> Heh
20100409 23:02:51< Unnheulu|Laptop> My Dad has that on his flash drive
20100409 23:03:39 * Unnheulu|Laptop needs to code npc's
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20100409 23:27:08< Gambit> Who needed me?
20100409 23:27:48< Unnheulu|Laptop> Gambit, http://www.jonespenarth.me.uk/~ieuan/Screenshot-Amazolians-3.png
20100409 23:27:56< Unnheulu|Laptop> latest shot
20100409 23:28:21< Unnheulu|Laptop> although it "needs loads of effort and should be rewritten in flash because python is useless"
20100409 23:28:23< Gambit> kewl
20100409 23:28:39< PetePorty> didn't say that
20100409 23:28:43< Unnheulu|Laptop> at least in PetePorty's words
20100409 23:29:09< Unnheulu|Laptop> <PetePorty> what's it supposed to be?
20100409 23:29:09< Unnheulu|Laptop>  oh...
20100409 23:29:09< Unnheulu|Laptop>  it sucks
20100409 23:29:20< PetePorty> I asked if you've tried flash, as it is way easier...
20100409 23:29:21< Unnheulu|Laptop> <PetePorty> uhhh.... you... have you ever tried rpg maker for computer?
20100409 23:29:30< Jarkko_>  Unnheulu|Laptop: It's written in Python?
20100409 23:29:34< PetePorty> yes
20100409 23:29:37< Unnheulu|Laptop> Jarkko_, totally
20100409 23:29:55< Unnheulu|Laptop> Jarkko_, although, I do know java and (some) C++ before you accuse me
20100409 23:30:15< Gambit> Unnheulu|Laptop: It should be written in ColdFusion.
20100409 23:30:18< Gambit> Not flash or python.
20100409 23:30:23< Gambit> Furthermore IT BELONGS IN A MUSEUM!
20100409 23:30:26< Unnheulu|Laptop> Gambit, apparently I should be "pirating flash"
20100409 23:30:29< PetePorty> i suggested you some things, you took it really personally, you acted like a child....
20100409 23:30:37< Unnheulu|Laptop> I wanna learn coldfusion some day
20100409 23:30:48< Jarkko_> Unnheulu|Laptop: Ain't gonna accuse you. :D
20100409 23:30:55< Gambit> I just failed an hour long FF13 boss fight when he had a pubic hair of health left.
20100409 23:30:59< Gambit> I'm pretty PO'd.
20100409 23:31:00< Unnheulu|Laptop> <PetePorty> -OR- you could do a game in flash, which is completely easier...
20100409 23:31:05< Unnheulu|Laptop> :(
20100409 23:31:21< Unnheulu|Laptop> <PetePorty> but... you do as me and steal it :)
20100409 23:31:29< PetePorty> see the "-OR-"?
20100409 23:31:36< PetePorty> never told you to...
20100409 23:31:43< Gambit> Unnheulu|Laptop: Do it in Game Maker 8
20100409 23:31:47< Gambit> easier yet...
20100409 23:31:48< Unnheulu|Laptop> You were suggesting perl once :P
20100409 23:31:54< Unnheulu|Laptop> Gambit, or mission maker >.>
20100409 23:32:07< Unnheulu|Laptop> I gotta use that for my GCSE, and people talk about dumbing down
20100409 23:32:13< Gambit> The only languages you  need to know are WML, HTML, JS, CSS, and CFML. :)
20100409 23:32:16< Jarkko_> Well, GM has it's pros...
20100409 23:32:21< Gambit> Oh and SQL...
20100409 23:32:22< Unnheulu|Laptop> (Visual basic is for my A levels, which I'm taking a year early)
20100409 23:32:25< Gambit> and optionally mySQL
20100409 23:32:39< Gambit> For gay people...
20100409 23:32:48< Gambit> No offense to gay people.
20100409 23:32:52< Unnheulu|Laptop> The only ones of those I dunno are CFML and JS ;)
20100409 23:32:54< Gambit> much offense to mySQL >_>
20100409 23:32:54< PetePorty> lol
20100409 23:33:14< Unnheulu|Laptop> cfml = coldfusion?
20100409 23:33:16 * Jarkko_ feels himself extremely under-educated...
20100409 23:33:22< Gambit> Unnheulu|Laptop: you dunno Javascript?
20100409 23:33:33< Unnheulu|Laptop> I was learning it when I was 8
20100409 23:33:37< Gambit> You don't need that much of it.
20100409 23:33:40< Unnheulu|Laptop> But, you know 8 year olds, easily bored
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20100409 23:33:53< Gambit> For a CFML game you only need JS to capture the keystrokes.
20100409 23:33:54< Unnheulu|Laptop> I sorta know how to make a button that goes back a page
20100409 23:33:59< Unnheulu|Laptop> But, that all^^
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20100409 23:34:33< Unnheulu|Laptop> <Unnheulu|Laptop> you can't tell that stuff from graphics
20100409 23:34:39< SekoIdiootti> I need to go, bye
20100409 23:34:40< Unnheulu|Laptop> <PetePorty> yes i can
20100409 23:34:42< Unnheulu|Laptop> bye
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20100409 23:35:08< Unnheulu|Laptop> <PetePorty> I see the graphics, wich is the first thing people work on... its TOTALLY crappy so.. yeah... anyway, as i said, u r doing ok... u just started 3 days ago anyway...
20100409 23:35:14< PetePorty> see? you got really childish...
20100409 23:35:16< Gambit> Unnheulu|Laptop: do you have jabber or googletalk?
20100409 23:35:16< sevis> Unnheulu, am I seeing things, or are you talking to yourself by putting names between <> before what you say? O____o
20100409 23:35:19< Unnheulu|Laptop> graphics aren't the first thing you start on
20100409 23:35:32< Unnheulu|Laptop> sevis, quotes from pm
20100409 23:35:44< Unnheulu|Laptop> Gambit, googletalk, but, I don't really like jabber >.>
20100409 23:35:48< sevis> Ah, okay, I was starting to get confused.
20100409 23:35:49< Gambit> Cool.
20100409 23:35:52< Unnheulu|Laptop> (aka I can't be bothered to set it up)
20100409 23:35:55< Gambit> Add grickitbot@gmail.com
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20100409 23:35:57< sevis> Googletalk is jabber, afaik.
20100409 23:35:57< PetePorty> if you wanted to chat in open chat... you could have told me...
20100409 23:36:01< Gambit> hold on I need to turn him on...
20100409 23:36:05< Unnheulu|Laptop> sevis, yeh
20100409 23:36:15< Gambit> oh shoot. My laptop is missing :\
20100409 23:36:18< PetePorty> if you didnt want me to tell you stuff about your game... you could have told me...
20100409 23:36:19< Gambit> Unnheulu|Laptop: nevermind for now :(
20100409 23:36:25< Gambit> I made a chat robot in CFML.
20100409 23:36:30< Unnheulu|Laptop> Gambit, really?
20100409 23:36:32< Unnheulu|Laptop> awesomeness
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20100409 23:36:36< Gambit> But someone appears to have stolen my laptop
20100409 23:36:43< Unnheulu|Laptop> <PetePorty> but placeholders need to be better than that if you r planning to randomly show them to people over the internet..
20100409 23:36:44< Unnheulu|Laptop> :(
20100409 23:36:54< Gambit> I'll have to wait for my little brother to get up from his nap before I go looking.
20100409 23:36:55< Unnheulu|Laptop> Gambit, placeholders are meant to be rubbish aren't they ;)
20100409 23:36:56< PetePorty> see?
20100409 23:36:56< Gambit> It was probably him.
20100409 23:37:14< PetePorty> childish....
20100409 23:37:19< Gambit> Unnheulu|Laptop: I steal high quality placeholders from neopets
20100409 23:37:21< Gambit> wesnoth
20100409 23:37:25< Gambit> and spritersresource
20100409 23:37:43< Unnheulu|Laptop> But, put together they usually look **** ;)
20100409 23:37:48< Gambit> Nu uh!
20100409 23:37:50 * PetePorty hugs Gambit
20100409 23:37:52< Unnheulu|Laptop> (Until your blackmail ZeroVirus)
20100409 23:37:57< Unnheulu|Laptop> :P
20100409 23:38:02< Gambit> ?
20100409 23:38:06< PetePorty> :)
20100409 23:38:10< Gambit> For Wesnoth things I don't need placeholders.
20100409 23:38:18< Unnheulu|Laptop> yeh
20100409 23:38:25< Gambit> There is so much user made art out there 0_0
20100409 23:38:35< Unnheulu|Laptop> Graphics library anyone?
20100409 23:38:46< Gambit> Graphics Library + Ageless era
20100409 23:38:47< Gambit> <3
20100409 23:38:49< Unnheulu|Laptop> But, yeh, if I didn't want to be so self-reliant I'd use other free stuff
20100409 23:38:57< Unnheulu|Laptop> minotaurs <3
20100409 23:39:04< Jarkko_> I'd draw myself... >-
20100409 23:39:12< Gambit> Unnheulu|Laptop: for place holders you really should check out spritersresource
20100409 23:39:23< Gambit> It has graphics ripped from every 2D game ever almost :\
20100409 23:39:26< Unnheulu|Laptop> Gambit, I wanna be fairly self reliant though ;)
20100409 23:39:36< Gambit> it's just placeholders
20100409 23:39:44< Unnheulu|Laptop> true
20100409 23:39:47< PetePorty> EXACTLY!
20100409 23:40:08< Unnheulu|Laptop> and placeholders don't need to look good...
20100409 23:40:21< Gambit> Well they do in a way.
20100409 23:40:22< Unnheulu|Laptop> PetePorty, you remind me of these two kids in school, who always squabble with eachother
20100409 23:40:26< Gambit> They don't need to look good to you.
20100409 23:40:34< Unnheulu|Laptop> Gambit, you seen wesnoth 0.1 =)
20100409 23:40:35< Gambit> But in order to suck other people in.
20100409 23:40:38< Gambit> ...
20100409 23:40:40< Unnheulu|Laptop> Point proven :P
20100409 23:40:42< Gambit> Wesnoth 0.1 looks amazing!
20100409 23:40:45< Unnheulu|Laptop> :D
20100409 23:40:57< Unnheulu|Laptop> I don't need to really suck people in till I make a release
20100409 23:41:22< Gambit> what's wrong with this?: http://www.wesnoth.org/images/sshots/ancient-03.jpg
20100409 23:41:22< Unnheulu|Laptop> (you can copy+paste stuff like whenever, but, for an actual tar I make you wait^^)
20100409 23:41:28< PetePorty> as i said, if u r going to randomly show screenshots to people they need to be at least decent...
20100409 23:41:46< Gambit> certainly better than what I can draw :\
20100409 23:41:57< Unnheulu|Laptop> That's so much fun^^
20100409 23:42:07< Unnheulu|Laptop> although not quite 0.1
20100409 23:42:12< PetePorty> better than the other screenshot...
20100409 23:42:14< Unnheulu|Laptop> (I don't think)
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20100409 23:42:43< PetePorty> better than http://www.jonespenarth.me.uk/~ieuan/Screenshot-Amazolians-3.png ...
20100409 23:42:58< Unnheulu|Laptop> Because there is more on the screen...
20100409 23:43:24< Gambit> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_gyqpMV5jZwI/Sz68tghJ_QI/AAAAAAAAACY/kQpEKjpZA24/s400/map.jpg
20100409 23:43:32< Unnheulu|Laptop> Gambit, interestingly, until the recent redraw, the orcish archer has been almost identical since 0,2
20100409 23:43:37 * Gambit stole art from wesnoth :o
20100409 23:43:45< Unnheulu|Laptop> I wanna try it Gambit!
20100409 23:43:52< PetePorty> still better
20100409 23:44:08< Gambit> Unnheulu|Laptop: buy me some coldfusion hosting :D
20100409 23:44:09< Unnheulu|Laptop> that's cause the art was nicked from wesnoth :P
20100409 23:44:22< Unnheulu|Laptop> Where as each tile of mine took me hmm
20100409 23:44:27< Unnheulu|Laptop> 10 seconds for the water
20100409 23:44:30< Unnheulu|Laptop> 30 for the dirt
20100409 23:44:33< Unnheulu|Laptop> 2 for the sand
20100409 23:44:41< Unnheulu|Laptop> 4 for the grass
20100409 23:44:45< Gambit> That blury red arrow was all me 8)
20100409 23:44:52< Gambit> 15 minutes baby!
20100409 23:44:58< Unnheulu|Laptop> <3
20100409 23:45:11< PetePorty> well done gambit!
20100409 23:45:16< Unnheulu|Laptop> The person in the middle of the screen took a whole afternoon, by my bro, for my wesnoth campaign >.>
20100409 23:45:18< PetePorty> better than his!
20100409 23:45:39< PetePorty> I like the arrow....
20100409 23:45:56< PetePorty> oh gambit... i have a feelin mystic x wants to talk to you
20100409 23:45:59< PetePorty> he's back btw
20100409 23:46:04< Unnheulu|Laptop> Ahh, there's the arrow
20100409 23:46:08< Unnheulu|Laptop> Camouflaged :D
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20100409 23:47:15< Gambit> The game would use popups in a good way too.
20100409 23:47:19< Gambit> <cfwindow>
20100409 23:47:41< Gambit> Coldfusion popup windows are modal to the page.
20100409 23:48:13< PetePorty> uhhh... sorry guys, i need to go to the doctor...
20100409 23:48:23< Gambit> check this out Unnheulu|Laptop: http://tutorial6.learncf.com/demo/6
20100409 23:48:24< PetePorty> havent been eating my apples :(
20100409 23:49:17< PetePorty> bye
20100409 23:49:20< Gambit> bye
20100409 23:49:29< Gambit> And good luck with your cranioectemy!
20100409 23:49:31< PetePorty> see ya... unnehulu: keep working on the game
20100409 23:49:37< PetePorty> wha!?
20100409 23:49:46< PetePorty> I need my eyes checked : (
20100409 23:50:03< PetePorty> k bye, c ya...
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20100409 23:50:23< Gambit> Unnheulu|Laptop: did you go to the link?
20100409 23:50:41< Gambit> It's awesome. You can have multiples of those windows.
20100409 23:50:43< Unnheulu|Laptop> hang on
20100409 23:50:47< Unnheulu|Laptop> watching a vid
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20100409 23:56:34< Unnheulu|Laptop> wow cool
20100409 23:56:38< Unnheulu|Laptop> colfusion
20100409 23:56:40< Unnheulu|Laptop> ?
20100409 23:57:07< Gambit> coldfusion+ajax
20100409 23:57:34 * Unnheulu|Laptop wants to learn ajax but my dad won't let me :/
20100409 23:57:38< Gambit> AFAIU ajax is under the hood, but you code them in coldfusion.
20100409 23:57:47< Gambit> It's a coldfusion tag <cfwindow>
20100409 23:58:22< Gambit> Coldfusion has a couple of intermediary tags like that.
20100409 23:58:50< Gambit> Your dad won't let you learn AJAX? :s
20100409 23:58:58< Gambit> I don't get it...
20100409 23:59:13< Unnheulu|Laptop> He says I need to finish learning Java and C++
20100409 23:59:20< Gambit> rofl
20100409 23:59:29< Gambit> Tell him real men are web developers :o
20100409 23:59:35< Gambit> not programmers :$
20100409 23:59:36< Unnheulu|Laptop> :P
20100409 23:59:46< Unnheulu|Laptop> He's a Risk manager :S
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