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--- Day changed Tue Apr 13 2010
20100413 00:00:07< SpoOkyMagician> i havent actually tried your fix yet
20100413 00:00:19< Gambit> "As far as the in depth explanations"
20100413 00:00:39< Gambit> My plan doesn't include more information per topic than the current tutorial.
20100413 00:00:43< Gambit> It just includes more topics.
20100413 00:00:46< Gambit> And breaks it down.
20100413 00:01:21< SpoOkyMagician> well as i said in the topic
20100413 00:01:48< SpoOkyMagician> its a tutorial. to get a full explanation of the game, that is what the 'help' menu is for
20100413 00:02:05< SpoOkyMagician> try not to over explain it
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20100413 00:04:09< SpoOkyMagician> (gonna update my post. id like to elaborate on my post. some may not understand what im saying)
20100413 00:04:22< Gambit> Everyone's whining about the number of scenarios. The few people I talked to over in #wesnoth-dev loved the idea.
20100413 00:04:54< Gambit> I think I'm actually going to go work on scenario 3 right now.
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20100413 00:09:01< SpoOkyMagician> as i said, 3 minimal 5 max. (i dont think there should be more than 5)
20100413 00:09:44< SpoOkyMagician> 2 isnt enough (as said)
20100413 00:09:49< Gambit> There will be 22.
20100413 00:10:01< Gambit> lmao. Just kidding.
20100413 00:10:02< SpoOkyMagician> 22 or 2?
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20100413 00:10:34< SpoOkyMagician> i find the jump from scenario 1 to 2 too much
20100413 00:11:38< Gambit> Hmm no passive_leader in 1.8?
20100413 00:11:48< Gambit> Scenario 3 is all broken after updating to 1.8 :\
20100413 00:11:54< Gambit> [switch] and [case] aren't working.
20100413 00:12:47< SpoOkyMagician> well, good luck with it nonetheless.
20100413 00:14:38< SpoOkyMagician> im surprised nobody has been assigned to that bug yet on gna... (bug #15764: mp server auto-scrolling)
20100413 00:17:36< Gambit> odd there's nothing in the syntax changes thread about removing passive_leader
20100413 00:17:55< SpoOkyMagician> whats wrong gambit?
20100413 00:18:02< Gambit> passive_leader
20100413 00:18:08< Gambit> I want the AI leader to just sit there
20100413 00:18:21< SpoOkyMagician> it doesnt work?
20100413 00:18:40< SpoOkyMagician> i was gonna use that...
20100413 00:19:03< Gambit> It was last time I worked on my tutorial.
20100413 00:19:07< Gambit> Now it's not.
20100413 00:19:25< Gambit> The reference WML still mentions it too.
20100413 00:19:27< SpoOkyMagician> check stderr.txt?
20100413 00:19:35< Gambit> Why?
20100413 00:19:46< SpoOkyMagician> something else could cause it not to work
20100413 00:20:42< SpoOkyMagician> (runtime errors cause weird side effects)
20100413 00:21:01< SpoOkyMagician> sometimes
20100413 00:21:13< Gambit> In fact it's still listed in the new Customizing AI In Wesnoth 1.8 page :
20100413 00:21:27< SpoOkyMagician> yes i know. i checked
20100413 00:21:37< Gambit> ... the hell
20100413 00:23:41< SpoOkyMagician> are there any leader_goals?
20100413 00:23:52< Gambit> No.
20100413 00:23:55< SpoOkyMagician> hmm
20100413 00:24:14< SpoOkyMagician> any errors in the error log?
20100413 00:24:30 * Gambit bothers Crab.
20100413 00:24:35< Gambit> SpoOkyMagician: why would there be?
20100413 00:24:43< SpoOkyMagician> just check...
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20100413 00:25:09< Gambit> Yes. I'm missing a translation folder.
20100413 00:25:11< Gambit> :)
20100413 00:25:14< SpoOkyMagician> lol
20100413 00:25:43< SpoOkyMagician> but that shouldnt effect it though
20100413 00:25:59< SpoOkyMagician> fix then try again though
20100413 00:26:01< Gambit> You'd think the sky would be falling if this were broken...
20100413 00:26:43< SpoOkyMagician> heh
20100413 00:27:52< Gambit> I'm pretty sure some campaigns use this.
20100413 00:28:13< Gambit> And I know there are MP addons with it.
20100413 00:28:19< Gambit> SX for example.
20100413 00:28:29< SpoOkyMagician> ive had that code work before... (not in 1.8 though. yet to test)
20100413 00:28:37< Gambit> http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/Y6zgT2qC
20100413 00:28:45< Gambit> was working in 1.7.11
20100413 00:29:08< SpoOkyMagician> hmm
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20100413 00:29:47< SpoOkyMagician> id use quotes on the leader type but other than that i dont see any problems
20100413 00:30:03< Gambit> Cause there are no problems.
20100413 00:30:24< SpoOkyMagician> hmm
20100413 00:30:29< Gambit> It's gotta be that meddlesome AI.
20100413 00:30:30< SpoOkyMagician> try setting the other value
20100413 00:30:33< Gambit> It doesn't want to sit still ;)
20100413 00:30:41< SpoOkyMagician> passive_leader_shares_keep
20100413 00:30:46< Gambit> Hacking the RNG, ignoring our orders, where does it end?
20100413 00:31:20< SpoOkyMagician> (wont help much unless its a bug related to that somehow)
20100413 00:31:34< SpoOkyMagician> err wait
20100413 00:31:39< SpoOkyMagician> devel version
20100413 00:32:28< SpoOkyMagician> the only work around i can think of is -
20100413 00:32:33< SpoOkyMagician> setting moves == 0
20100413 00:32:51< SpoOkyMagician> max_moves *
20100413 00:33:52< Gambit> SpoOkyMagician: Not to be rude (or concieted) but it's me. I've already considered all of this.
20100413 00:34:22< SpoOkyMagician> i dont understand what you mean by that statement
20100413 00:34:58< SpoOkyMagician> elaborate?
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20100413 00:40:26< SpoOkyMagician> Gambit:
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20100413 00:56:28< PetePorty> Dear God
20100413 00:56:44< Gambit> How are you doing? I am well.
20100413 00:56:50< Gambit> Sincerely, Peter.
20100413 00:57:07< PetePorty> me too, how about you Gambit?
20100413 00:57:31< Gambit> Good.
20100413 00:57:47 * PetePorty kicks gambits nuts
20100413 00:57:50< PetePorty> :)
20100413 00:58:20< PetePorty> It's the new thing!
20100413 00:59:05< PetePorty> dude, my physics teacher loves me.
20100413 00:59:34< Gambit> That's a felony.
20100413 00:59:56< PetePorty> -.-
20100413 01:00:03< Blarumyrran> Physics teachers are generally male
20100413 01:00:16< Blarumyrran> This keeps taking awkward turns
20100413 01:00:16< PetePorty> like... in a "You are my fav student Pete"
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20100413 01:00:46< Gambit> With a winking emote.
20100413 01:00:47< PetePorty> "Cuz u told the biology teacher how great I was"
20100413 01:00:47-!- happygrue [~George@wesnoth/developer/wintermute] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20100413 01:00:57< PetePorty> "and now she's gonna fall in love with me"
20100413 01:01:08< PetePorty> -.-
20100413 01:01:11< Gambit> With a winking emote.
20100413 01:01:36< PetePorty> I hate my new bio teacher... the old one was way sexier...
20100413 01:01:58< PetePorty> no I have no reason to study... not that i did study last year or anything, just saying....
20100413 01:02:13< PetePorty> plz don't kick me.
20100413 01:02:35< Gambit> Can I say "You're gay" on television?
20100413 01:02:58< PetePorty> yes
20100413 01:03:11< PetePorty> but not on the radio
20100413 01:03:16< Gambit> PetePorty just said we can say he's gay on television!
20100413 01:03:34 * Gambit rips off another WKUK sketch.
20100413 01:03:38< Gambit> :P
20100413 01:03:41< PetePorty> nope, i said *YOU* can say that
20100413 01:03:48< Blarumyrran> plural
20100413 01:03:59< Gambit> The royal we.
20100413 01:04:07< PetePorty> cuz I know u r never gonna be on tv...
20100413 01:04:22< Gambit> Odd.
20100413 01:04:28< Gambit> I already was. :o
20100413 01:04:44< PetePorty> me too, but in a totally not cool way...
20100413 01:05:02< PetePorty> and i had to cever my face... so familly and friends wouldnt recognize me....
20100413 01:05:07< PetePorty> cover*
20100413 01:05:16< PetePorty> :)
20100413 01:05:36< PetePorty> OMG! Taylor Swift is here!
20100413 01:05:42< TaylorSwift> lol
20100413 01:05:57< PetePorty> and s/he talked to me!
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20100413 01:07:39< PetePorty> Gambit! look who's here!
20100413 01:07:57< Gambit> Who?
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20100413 01:08:11< PetePorty> Taylor Swift!!!
20100413 01:08:23< PetePorty> and even more important....
20100413 01:08:31< PetePorty> SHADOWMASTER!
20100413 01:09:23< Sargeant> Hello, I finally got this to work, Yay! =)
20100413 01:09:27< PetePorty> hi
20100413 01:09:31< Sargeant> Hello.
20100413 01:10:04< PetePorty> O.o the gay kid in my class is dating... and he's dating a girl! facebook is so amzing...
20100413 01:10:38< Sargeant> Is he actually gay or does he just LOOK gay?
20100413 01:11:05< PetePorty> Look + Act + Talk
20100413 01:11:12< PetePorty> and probably is
20100413 01:11:24< PetePorty> not sure yet, he's 14....
20100413 01:11:30< Sargeant> Ah...
20100413 01:11:53< PetePorty> PLUS he has no friends irl
20100413 01:12:03< Sargeant> ???
20100413 01:12:17< PetePorty> that makes him gayier
20100413 01:12:22< Sargeant> Oh.
20100413 01:12:22< Gambit> He doesn't smell gay.
20100413 01:12:28< PetePorty> O.o
20100413 01:12:35< PetePorty> never smelled him...
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20100413 01:12:42< PetePorty> we tryu to avoid him....
20100413 01:12:46< Sargeant> How does someone go about smelling gay?
20100413 01:12:46< PetePorty> try*
20100413 01:12:56< PetePorty> dunno
20100413 01:13:05 * PetePorty smells Gambit
20100413 01:13:08< PetePorty> that way
20100413 01:13:11< PetePorty> :)
20100413 01:13:12< PetePorty> lol
20100413 01:13:17< Sargeant> XD
20100413 01:14:01-!- PetePorty is now known as A_Guy_Who_Smells
20100413 01:14:08< A_Guy_Who_Smells> :(
20100413 01:14:17< A_Guy_Who_Smells> other guys on the internet
20100413 01:14:25< Sargeant> !
20100413 01:14:30-!- A_Guy_Who_Smells is now known as PeterPorty
20100413 01:14:37< PeterPorty> brb guys
20100413 01:14:49< Sargeant> ???
20100413 01:15:38< PeterPorty> back
20100413 01:15:52< Sargeant> What does brb mean?
20100413 01:15:59< PeterPorty> be right back
20100413 01:16:07< Sargeant> Ah.
20100413 01:16:29< PeterPorty> I hate it when my mom gets viruses...and i have to kill them...
20100413 01:16:40< Sargeant> ???
20100413 01:16:58 * PeterPorty Shoots Trojan
20100413 01:17:18< Sargeant> Ah, right, those viruses.
20100413 01:18:21< PeterPorty> yeah...
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20100413 01:20:48< PeterPorty> O.o
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20100413 01:55:37< PeterPorty> O.o fabi said I didn't rock...
20100413 02:03:50< PeterPorty> bye guys
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20100413 02:05:57< shadowmaster> ...fabi's right
20100413 02:06:09< shadowmaster> you don't rock.
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20100413 02:41:10< Gambit> You roll!
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20100413 02:57:58< PetePorty> Jeeze... I hate people being easily offended...
20100413 03:00:35< Gambit> Easily offended people might take offense to that statement.
20100413 03:03:09< PetePorty> yeah, but she ain't here....
20100413 03:03:41< PetePorty> and my linkin park is loud enough not to hear anything else
20100413 03:05:34< PetePorty> DON'T TURN YOUR BACK ON ME, I WON'T BE IGNORED! just love it...
20100413 03:05:47< PetePorty> shoots
20100413 03:06:07< PetePorty> why can't I download flight to freedom
20100413 03:06:12< PetePorty> ?
20100413 03:06:35< PetePorty> after like 50% it says "remote host dissconected"
20100413 03:08:53< ancestral> try http://addons.wesnoth.org ?
20100413 03:09:21< PetePorty> thx man
20100413 03:09:24< PetePorty> u rock
20100413 03:09:34< ancestral> I sure do
20100413 03:09:40< PetePorty> awesome
20100413 03:10:01 * PetePorty hugs ancestral and wont let go
20100413 03:10:09< ancestral> Hmm, awkward…
20100413 03:10:26< PetePorty> my middle name!
20100413 03:10:27< ancestral> For you see, you aren't in the League of Awesomeness
20100413 03:10:37< ancestral> Yes, there is a League
20100413 03:10:43< PetePorty> yeah
20100413 03:11:25< PetePorty> theres also a league of stupidity, but only people who belong to it don't know about its existance...
20100413 03:11:36< PetePorty> you seem surprised.. didn't you know?
20100413 03:12:10< ancestral> http://www.zefrank.com/thewiki/The_League_of_Awesomeness
20100413 03:12:47< ancestral> PetePorty: nice
20100413 03:12:55< PetePorty> :)
20100413 03:13:15< PetePorty> I've bocome so DUUUUUUMMMMMBBB!
20100413 03:13:20< PetePorty> love that song...
20100413 03:13:21< PetePorty> lol
20100413 03:13:29< PetePorty> become*
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20100413 03:14:46< PetePorty> ok, so i download the tar, move it to userdata and unzip?
20100413 03:16:09< PetePorty> k, did it
20100413 03:16:10< PetePorty> thx
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20100413 03:45:05< noy> Zarel: got a couple of moments?
20100413 03:45:06< noy> http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=421212#p421212
20100413 03:45:21< noy> I assume you've seen that
20100413 03:45:52< Zarel> noy: Yep, I do have time.
20100413 03:45:58< Zarel> I read maybe half a paragraph before losing interest.
20100413 03:46:32< Zarel> The guy's an interesting guy, but he's too verbose for my tastes.
20100413 03:46:32< noy> kinda alot of badly thought out ideas disguised by alot of text
20100413 03:47:02< Zarel> I'd assume it'd be along those lines.
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20100413 04:04:21< natasiel> hi, someone knows how to set back a recruit list to default faction?
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20100413 04:08:47< Gambit> omfg
20100413 04:08:55< Gambit> turuk was on 4 hours ago
20100413 04:09:00< Gambit> We missed him :(
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20100413 04:17:25< Gambit> shadowmasterdammit
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20100413 05:38:04< natasiel> how can I read player 1 recruit list? $player[1].recruit?
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20100413 06:31:05< euggie> so umm.... I am too retarded to figure out how to get the iPhone wesnoth to join a PC/Mac game and vice versa... seems like I am too retarded to get google or the wiki to yield any help :(
20100413 06:31:35< euggie> anything I should be reading?
20100413 06:39:47< noy> you just join the server
20100413 06:41:55< euggie> yeah, I must be missing something obvious... the phone and the computer seems to be seeing a different list of games
20100413 06:41:59< euggie> thanks tho mate
20100413 06:53:47< Appleman1234> euggie, are they same version of wesnoth ?
20100413 06:54:11< euggie> yeah man, actually I was just thinking that
20100413 06:54:36< euggie> will see in um... "Less than a minute" it claims :)
20100413 06:55:46< euggie> ding!!
20100413 06:55:51< euggie> that was it
20100413 06:55:58< euggie> thanks! ;)
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20100413 06:58:29< euggie> now the wife can give me a beating ;)
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20100413 07:09:19< euggie> hey guys, thanks a bunch =) seems to all be happy now ;)
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20100413 10:28:27< Ivanovic> moin
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20100413 12:50:11< SekoIdiootti> I got an awesome idea: Multilayered terrain.
20100413 12:51:49< Rhonda> So two units can be at the same spot but in different hights? Like bridges, and multi-store houses?
20100413 12:52:02< SekoIdiootti> no...
20100413 12:52:08< SekoIdiootti> I mean, like...
20100413 12:52:10< SekoIdiootti> hmmm
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20100413 12:52:39< Rhonda> Ah, for putting the unit sprits partly "below" the terrain?
20100413 12:52:48< Rhonda> So an underlay and an overlay graphic?
20100413 12:53:14< SekoIdiootti> well, I'm not good describing, but... like... so it'd be many maps kinda. But on top of each other. With some place to go down. xD
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20100413 12:59:14< SekoIdiootti> kinda like floors
20100413 12:59:20< SekoIdiootti> in a building
20100413 13:00:10< SekoIdiootti> like this http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss6/Woodmouse-/terrainlayer.png
20100413 13:00:32< SekoIdiootti> (the images are just for fun xD)
20100413 13:01:33< zookeeper> lol it's so weird
20100413 13:01:57< SekoIdiootti> :S
20100413 13:04:07< Ivanovic> IIRC there was some work by espreon called "project mango soup" (or the likes)
20100413 13:04:22< Ivanovic> basically allowing a world above ground and some underground
20100413 13:04:39< Ivanovic> like you eg know it from heroes of might and magic
20100413 13:04:46< SekoIdiootti> but it's not worked on anymore? :(
20100413 13:04:57< Ivanovic> no idea, search the forums
20100413 13:05:05< SekoIdiootti> ok
20100413 13:05:07< Ivanovic> that is done as usermade content, not as mainline
20100413 13:05:15< SekoIdiootti> oh ok
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20100413 13:35:53< Rhonda> SekoIdiootti: I think it would be immensly confusing, if some units are on one level, others on a different one - the switching back'n'forth would be too complex to grasp, me thinks.
20100413 13:36:13< SekoIdiootti> hmm, well, maybe...
20100413 13:36:37< SekoIdiootti> but it could be done so it was kinda like... split screen or something. Though, that would confuse even more...
20100413 13:36:53< Rhonda> Between different maps one can get that idea across, like "you entered the house's cellar and found a group of bandits" or something like that, but within one scenario …
20100413 13:37:31< SekoIdiootti> hmm, well, yeah
20100413 13:42:38< ancestral> I thought it'd be interesting to try adding a cliff transition to allow for multiple elevations
20100413 13:43:10< ancestral> Basically a tiered hill, like a ziggurat
20100413 13:43:53< SekoIdiootti> that'd be cool :o
20100413 13:44:15< ancestral> Like the old Zelda games
20100413 13:45:18< ancestral> Of course, I'm not sure how effective it would be with the terrain defined as it is — if a mountain tile is suppose to be mountainous terrain itself supposed to be very high then what's the point?
20100413 13:46:05< ancestral> However, it could work at a smaller scale
20100413 13:47:50< ancestral> Warning: big image, but yeah: http://www.vgmaps.com/Atlas/GB-GBC/LegendOfZelda-Link%27sAwakeningDX-Koholint.png
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20100413 13:48:26< SekoIdiootti> it'd be so über cool. 8)
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20100413 14:14:35< SekoIdiootti> hey, does anyone here remember the wml for "upgrading" units that can be recruited? Because I forgot. ^^;
20100413 14:15:03< SekoIdiootti> I mean, at a certain turn, so the people can recruit more units
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20100413 14:17:17< shadowmaster> [allow_recruit] side= ... type= ... [/allow_recruit]
20100413 14:17:25< shadowmaster> type= is a comma-separated list
20100413 14:17:55< Necrosporus> Who is Yechnagoth?
20100413 14:18:18< SekoIdiootti> Thanks sm!
20100413 14:28:55< shadowmaster> Necrosporus: do you want spoilers?
20100413 14:29:11< shadowmaster> have you played UtBS?
20100413 14:30:37< Necrosporus> I'm on "blood it thicker then water currently"
20100413 14:31:03< shadowmaster> blood is thicker than water
20100413 14:31:04< shadowmaster> :P
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20100413 14:32:44< Necrosporus> Is that avatara real avatara of Elo?
20100413 14:33:25< shadowmaster> no
20100413 14:34:37< Necrosporus> Interesting... So some enemy adviced Kaleh to yield, but it was not real goddess?
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20100413 14:52:46< Gambit> Good morning 'noth.
20100413 14:55:02< SekoIdiootti> There's a retard skeleton in the rpg scenario I'm making.
20100413 14:55:40< SekoIdiootti> (yeah, there was one in The Zones too. But I like retard skeletons. :P It's a little weird maybe, but well...)
20100413 14:55:53< SekoIdiootti> (I mean, they talk retardedly)
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20100413 14:58:11< Gambit> How does a skeleton talk at all?
20100413 14:58:25< Gambit> Wait nevermind. WHM...
20100413 14:58:43< SekoIdiootti> "WHM"?
20100413 15:00:32< zookeeper> lol so weird
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20100413 15:05:06< Necrosporus> Skeletons does use the Force
20100413 15:05:45< Necrosporus> To force human brains detect nonexistent sounds
20100413 15:05:51< SekoIdiootti> lol :o
20100413 15:06:22< SekoIdiootti> well, the retard one actually talks about that sorta things... kinda. He talks about eating brains, though. But brains. xD
20100413 15:06:41< zookeeper> lol eating brains XD
20100413 15:06:46< zookeeper> that's so weird
20100413 15:06:49< SekoIdiootti> ...
20100413 15:07:08< zookeeper> sry i'm a bit weird...
20100413 15:07:13< zookeeper> lol
20100413 15:07:25< Jarkko_> Well, take a centuries old skeleton and you won't find brains from it... maybe the skeleton wants to... uhm... educate itself...
20100413 15:07:30< Necrosporus> Is brains tasty?
20100413 15:07:32< SekoIdiootti> ...you're evil... :( (if you're doing what I think)
20100413 15:08:14< Necrosporus> SekoIdiootti, do you have tasty brain?
20100413 15:08:15< Jarkko_> Necrosporus: I've heard, that brains taste a lot like ice cream... <_<;
20100413 15:08:27< SekoIdiootti> lol
20100413 15:09:05< Necrosporus> Does skeletons like ice cream?
20100413 15:09:26< SekoIdiootti> probably... At least I would, :O
20100413 15:09:33< SekoIdiootti> (if I was a skeleton, I mean)
20100413 15:11:05< Jarkko_> Now there's a mainline history potential: The undead invented ice cream! It all started, when one adept froze a cow...
20100413 15:11:29< SekoIdiootti> That'd be... different. xD
20100413 15:12:06< shadowmaster> reference verb...noun/adjective, lol
20100413 15:12:13< SekoIdiootti> ?
20100413 15:13:45< shadowmaster> okay, i'm weird...zookeeper is wierder though
20100413 15:14:13< SekoIdiootti> But... I thought I'm weird...
20100413 15:14:28 * shadowmaster notices that nobody understands when he recites templates :/
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20100413 15:14:51< SekoIdiootti> brb, getting something to eat...
20100413 15:15:13< shadowmaster> Necrosporus: anyway, yes, it's not the real goddess
20100413 15:15:38< shadowmaster> since UtBS' creator is missing since a few years I invented a proper explanation for all this mess but I haven't published it yet.
20100413 15:16:03< shadowmaster> but you want to finish the campaign. really ;)
20100413 15:17:32< SekoIdiootti> Phwww... Doing something for Wesnoth is so much easier than doing something else. :)
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20100413 15:18:14< Necrosporus> shadowmaster, ok... but When I see that endless hordes of enemies, it depresses
20100413 15:18:24< Jarkko_> Depends hugely on the matter.
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20100413 15:19:11< SekoIdiootti> well, doing scenarios for Wesnoth is much easier than making maps for Egoboo... (it's a great game. I'm not adversiting it though...)
20100413 15:19:50< Jarkko_> Well... doing scenarios. Yeah.
20100413 15:19:58< Necrosporus> Forest allows aquatic move only one cell at turn... too slow
20100413 15:21:44< shadowmaster> SekoIdiootti: yes, you are advertising it :)
20100413 15:22:06< SekoIdiootti> but I thought it's not adversiting to say that. But weeell.
20100413 15:22:07< shadowmaster> not that I care since it's so much inferior to Wesnoth...I mean, not even its video settings work
20100413 15:22:21< SekoIdiootti> weeeell
20100413 15:22:34< SekoIdiootti> (I'm welling because... well... dunno)
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20100413 15:24:16< Necrosporus> shadowmaster, is 11 lost units too many or not?
20100413 15:24:17< Gambit> SekoIdiootti: Wesnoth Has Magic
20100413 15:24:43< SekoIdiootti> lol?
20100413 15:24:45< SekoIdiootti> oh,,,,
20100413 15:24:48< SekoIdiootti> the WHM thing
20100413 15:24:50< SekoIdiootti> lol
20100413 15:24:58< Necrosporus> I mean total for all scenarios i finished it UtBS
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20100413 15:26:14< shadowmaster> Necrosporus: nope, not too many
20100413 15:27:32< Jarkko_> Necrosporus: Easy to find out - if you don't make it, you lost too many units. :)
20100413 15:28:01< SekoIdiootti> I typoed... "These thongs are not from this world!" when I meant "things", LOL!!! :O ...Are there even thongs in Wesnoth? xD
20100413 15:28:01< Jarkko_> But if you made it, there were only some necessary sacrifices.
20100413 15:29:29< SekoIdiootti> I mean Wesnoth world
20100413 15:29:31< SekoIdiootti> lol
20100413 15:29:55< Necrosporus> I suppose, it's possible to walk through all campaign without casualtes
20100413 15:31:31< Gambit> I dislike kids my age...
20100413 15:31:41< SekoIdiootti> ...when wearing thongs!
20100413 15:31:51< Gambit> I got a webmail from someone I've asked repeatedly to stop sending me chain letters...
20100413 15:31:57< Gambit> " YAHOO!!!! LOL!! I`am board right now so here i am. Just out of couriosity, wat grade u guys in?? n how old r ya?? right back soon!! like TOADAY!!!! I`AM BOARD!!!!!!!!!!! "
20100413 15:32:06< SekoIdiootti> that's horrible... :O
20100413 15:32:06< Gambit> I can't even come up with a response.
20100413 15:32:22< Gambit> I think I may just report the student in question.
20100413 15:32:23< SekoIdiootti> I always respond "F*** YOU!!!" to those
20100413 15:32:30< Gambit> I should have done it on the very first chain letter.
20100413 15:32:43< sevis> "Please nail yourself to something."
20100413 15:33:03< Gambit> LOL "board".
20100413 15:34:59< SekoIdiootti> he's stupid. xD
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20100413 15:35:29< SekoIdiootti> and maybe he doesn't have a life. Or maybe he wears thongs.
20100413 15:35:39< SekoIdiootti> (okay, I'll stop the thong jokes)
20100413 15:35:53< SekoIdiootti> but it WAS a funny typo... I think
20100413 15:42:17< SekoIdiootti> hmm, is there a way to make an unit play a certain animation with WML in an event?
20100413 15:44:43< Gambit> [animate_unit]?
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20100413 15:45:27< Gambit> You're not going to make a stripper skeleton are you?
20100413 15:46:54< Jarkko_> That would be wrong on so many levels...
20100413 15:49:16< SekoIdiootti> lol... no...
20100413 15:49:46< SekoIdiootti> I'm going to make a summoning lich. xD
20100413 15:49:54< SekoIdiootti> I mean, so it summons other units
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20100413 15:52:47< mtc> Wesnoth runs very well on the MIPS-based Lemote Yeeloong :)
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20100413 15:53:43< shadowmaster> so we can brag about Wesnoth working well on the MIPS architecture! :P
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20100413 16:03:32< fabi> shadowmaster: How can I strike through a text in the wiki?
20100413 16:04:42< King_Elendil> Hi fabi, any updates on the editor?
20100413 16:04:53< fabi> hi King_Elendil
20100413 16:05:22< King_Elendil> I think you needed something from a mac user, last I checked, right?
20100413 16:05:27< fabi> King_Elendil: It is currently being included in the new experimental fork.
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20100413 16:05:46< King_Elendil> really? cool
20100413 16:07:42< fabi> King_Elendil: Yeah, I am very happy that I have the chance to show it to a wide audience.
20100413 16:08:34< fabi> King_Elendil: There will be mac binaries for the experimental fork. So no help needed at the moment, thanks anyway.
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20100413 16:14:51< Woodmouse> why don't unit images show!? :( Is there something wrong with this? "~add-ons/Death_of_Morothel/images/units/lichlord.png"
20100413 16:15:03< Woodmouse> (that for example, there's many others too...)
20100413 16:15:12< Woodmouse> I don't have any typos, etc
20100413 16:15:36< Woodmouse> the unit is invisible...
20100413 16:16:25< Woodmouse> There's also this:
20100413 16:16:26< Woodmouse> [+units]
20100413 16:16:28< Woodmouse> {~add-ons/Death_of_Morothel/units/}
20100413 16:16:30< Woodmouse> {~add-ons/Death_of_Morothel/images/}
20100413 16:16:32< Woodmouse> {~add-ons/Death_of_Morothel/images/units/}
20100413 16:16:33< Woodmouse> [/units]
20100413 16:16:49< Woodmouse> in the cfg file outside the folder
20100413 16:18:27< zookeeper> Woodmouse, http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=395424#p395424
20100413 16:19:37< Woodmouse> So I have to remove the image things...? :o
20100413 16:19:43< Woodmouse> the path, I mean
20100413 16:19:44< Woodmouse> ?
20100413 16:20:59< Woodmouse> still not showing... :S
20100413 16:23:15< shadowmaster> fabi: no idea, my MediaWiki-fu is weak :/
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20100413 17:34:43< Rigor> hi
20100413 17:35:55< Gambit> The mediawiki-fu is strong with this one.
20100413 17:37:28< shadowmaster> Gambit: was that random, or you can help fendrin ?
20100413 17:37:47< Gambit> There's a page in the wiki on editing the wiki.
20100413 17:37:51< Gambit> It links to a wikipedia page.
20100413 17:37:56< Gambit> Which says to use and
20100413 17:38:03< shadowmaster> fendrin: you should be able to use
20100413 17:38:18< shadowmaster> or , if you prefer
20100413 17:39:47< Gambit> If whoever maintains the wiki trusts users HTML is enabled.
20100413 17:39:54< Gambit> *some
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20100413 17:41:40< shadowmaster> Gambit: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/User:Shikadilord
20100413 17:41:50< shadowmaster> first section under the TOC
20100413 17:42:06< Gambit> Cool.
20100413 17:45:45< Gambit> If wesnoth has taught me just one thing, it would be that if you don't know, go look it up.
20100413 17:46:09< shadowmaster> and if you are not sure you know, you look it up instead of propagating misinformation
20100413 17:46:19< shadowmaster> cool eh?
20100413 17:46:55< Gambit> Heh.
20100413 17:47:08< Gambit> That wasn't pointed at me was it?
20100413 17:48:48< shadowmaster> no, I'm pointing at that wall there- ah, never mind
20100413 17:49:27< Gambit> I do not propogate misinformation. [without disclaimers]
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20100413 17:51:24< fendrin> shadowmaster: Thank you, I have learned to help myself, google wasn't that usufull until I recognized that the markup language is called bbcode.
20100413 17:51:33< fendrin> :-)
20100413 17:51:48< shadowmaster> ?!???!?
20100413 17:51:54< shadowmaster> fendrin: the wiki markup language is not bbcode
20100413 17:52:29< shadowmaster> it's..."mediawiki markup" or something
20100413 17:52:56< Gambit> mediawiki-fu.
20100413 17:53:06< Gambit> Wait wait!... mediachlorians
20100413 17:58:13< Gambit> You're laughing on the inside.
20100413 17:58:37< Samwise> I do.
20100413 17:58:37< Samwise> Not.
20100413 17:58:50< shadowmaster> Gambit: unfunny pun is unfunny
20100413 17:59:31< shadowmaster> Gambit: and Turuk what?!
20100413 17:59:53< Gambit> He was on 2 days ago.
20100413 17:59:53< shadowmaster> 10 minutes ago last night? I see he last logged into the forums 3 days ago
20100413 17:59:57< shadowmaster> er.
20100413 18:00:07< Gambit> I said 4 hours las tnight cause I just saw the april and the time
20100413 18:00:14< Gambit> My mind didn't register the date :\
20100413 18:00:16< shadowmaster> 22:08:55 turuk was on 4 hours ago
20100413 18:00:19< Gambit> Yeah...
20100413 18:00:22< shadowmaster> ahh, k
20100413 18:00:39< Gambit> Didn't get on AIM though.
20100413 18:00:43< shadowmaster> he probably doesn't have time (either that or he got annoyed with me)
20100413 18:01:02< shadowmaster> sounds like a nice oportunity to take over the board -.-
20100413 18:01:09< Gambit> Well he ussually got on that even before the forums.
20100413 18:04:33< Gambit> Take over?
20100413 18:04:43< Gambit> Aren't you already like... in charge of the forum?
20100413 18:05:21< shadowmaster> I don't have a pretty colo.
20100413 18:05:22< shadowmaster> r
20100413 18:05:54< fendrin> shadowmaster: Can I be the "Lord of the Wesnoth fork"?
20100413 18:05:57< shadowmaster> although it's partly because I'm too lazy to figure out a color that can't possibly be confused with those already assigned to other groups
20100413 18:06:03< shadowmaster> fendrin: too long
20100413 18:06:11< Gambit> Darth Bane's rule of two states that if you become orange... you'll need a green. :D
20100413 18:06:16< fendrin> "Lord of the fork" < shadowmaster
20100413 18:06:20 * Gambit sniff.
20100413 18:06:25< shadowmaster> fendrin: also, I won't give you such a title until I see actual progress
20100413 18:06:42< fendrin> shadowmaster: define progress
20100413 18:06:42< Blarumyrran> Gambit, was that the undead King from Warlords
20100413 18:06:47< shadowmaster> fendrin: code!
20100413 18:06:56< fendrin> shadowmaster: ha, I can bomb you with code.
20100413 18:07:00< Gambit> Blarumyrran: No. It's Darth Bane.
20100413 18:07:02< shadowmaster> (gods!)
20100413 18:07:08< Gambit> The rule of two for the sith.
20100413 18:07:10< Blarumyrran> Oh, "Lord Bane"
20100413 18:07:14< Gambit> One to embody the power, the other to crave it.
20100413 18:07:25< shadowmaster> Gambit: there are no Forum Sith.
20100413 18:07:34 * shadowmaster *jedi mind trick*
20100413 18:07:36< Gambit> Or so the jedi thought... :o
20100413 18:07:40< Gambit> lol
20100413 18:07:43< Blarumyrran> Gambit, wasn't there just one though, that guy with the red face?
20100413 18:07:48< Gambit> No.
20100413 18:07:56< Gambit> There have always been two since Darth Bane.
20100413 18:08:03< shadowmaster> Blarumyrran: there was a huge plot hole. THat's all you need to know :P
20100413 18:08:05< Blarumyrran> It's not like they could hide very well with red faces you know
20100413 18:08:24< Gambit> He turned the sith from a massive infighting army to just two really strong ones.
20100413 18:08:31< shadowmaster> fendrin: and Lord of Wesmere is already taken, so no
20100413 18:08:41 * shadowmaster . O o (Lord of UMC-Dev caused some confusion already)
20100413 18:08:47< Gambit> And because the apprentice has to kill the master to become the master, each successive generation of sith is stronger than the last.
20100413 18:09:17< fendrin> shadowmaster: Well, wasn't interested in "Lord of Wesmere" anyway.
20100413 18:09:20< Blarumyrran> Well killing elderly isn't really hard
20100413 18:09:25< Gambit> Though Palpatine is oddly very weak.
20100413 18:09:34< Gambit> There just wasn't as much to the force back then hehe
20100413 18:09:53< shadowmaster> Gambit: weak? we was just stupid
20100413 18:10:14< Gambit> I mean he doesn't seem to know as much about the force
20100413 18:10:20< shadowmaster> he let himself be killed by his apprentice in a big deep well that was built in his little watchtower thing for no good reason
20100413 18:10:22< Gambit> just because there wasnt as much to the canon back then.
20100413 18:10:35< Gambit> shadowmaster: He didn't die then.
20100413 18:10:35< Blarumyrran> Gambit, he had blue lightning coming out of his hands
20100413 18:10:41< Blarumyrran> The guy with the red face didn't
20100413 18:10:54< Gambit> Blarumyrran: Darth Bane could make things spontaneously combust.
20100413 18:11:23< shadowmaster> Gambit: in fact, they have so many incredibly dangerous structures and locations in that universe that it's a wonder anyone's alive
20100413 18:11:26< shadowmaster> http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NoOSHACompliance
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20100413 18:11:49< shadowmaster> "The Star Wars galaxy is filled with indoor, 500-foot-deep chasms that have no guard rails." etc.
20100413 18:12:00< Blarumyrran> Gambit, was Darth Bane the red-faced guy then?
20100413 18:12:07< Gambit> No
20100413 18:12:11< Gambit> That was Darth Maul
20100413 18:12:32< Blarumyrran> shadowmaster, chasms are cool though
20100413 18:13:21< shadowmaster> let's see what you say after you fall into one in your nightmares
20100413 18:13:42< shadowmaster> bonus point if you are an Iron Mauler
20100413 18:13:48< Blarumyrran> I won't remember it to regret it after I wake up
20100413 18:14:39< Gambit> Darth Bane came thousands of years before any of the movies.
20100413 18:14:48< Blarumyrran> Gambit, how is the red-faced guy stronger then
20100413 18:15:05< Gambit> Because he just is (tm)
20100413 18:15:09< shadowmaster> he was stronger because he killed a redshirt jedi.
20100413 18:15:11< Blarumyrran> stronger by thousands of years of each-successor-is-stronger
20100413 18:15:11< Gambit> Blarumyrran: I agree with you.
20100413 18:15:12< shadowmaster> I guess
20100413 18:15:39< shadowmaster> either that or because he let himself be cut in half and thrown into yet another goddamn pit
20100413 18:15:46< Gambit> But it's because the history that contains Darth Bane is just now being written
20100413 18:15:51< zookeeper> Blarumyrran, he doesn't need to be; he died after all
20100413 18:16:12< Gambit> They have to keep making up shiny new stuff
20100413 18:16:27< Gambit> Which makes newerly written characters stonger than previously written ones
20100413 18:16:32< Gambit> *seemingly stronger
20100413 18:16:37< Gambit> even if they're not supposed to be
20100413 18:16:46< Gambit> i'm sure that's a trope (maybe?)
20100413 18:16:59< zookeeper> oh, and btw, the prequels suck
20100413 18:17:01< Blarumyrran> Ok so each sith is stronger than all the previous siths only when he's the teacher
20100413 18:17:22< Gambit> Blarumyrran: Yeah you could look at it that way
20100413 18:17:26< Gambit> each new master is stronger
20100413 18:17:27< zookeeper> Blarumyrran, kinda. no one said a teacher can't train a lousy student who then goes and dies.
20100413 18:17:38< Gambit> Palpatine had *a lot* of potential students
20100413 18:17:40< Gambit> they all died.
20100413 18:18:19< Gambit> But even palpatine looks extremely weak when compared with sith written after him which are actually in the past. :\
20100413 18:18:26< Gambit> Same goes for jedi.
20100413 18:18:40< shadowmaster> Two words: Plot Holes.
20100413 18:18:52< Gambit> shadowmaster: not really a hole.
20100413 18:19:04< Blarumyrran> Gambit, doesn't that just mean that people write those fan fiction books of yours have less sense of moderation than Lucas?
20100413 18:19:05< shadowmaster> and if you check them, please, please MAKE SURE you don't fall into one of them like those idiots too
20100413 18:19:09< Gambit> It's just that the newer characters in our time are better characterized.
20100413 18:19:16< Gambit> Blarumyrran: I don't read fanfiction.
20100413 18:19:19< shadowmaster> or don't allow anyone near you while you are at it
20100413 18:19:26< Gambit> All authors are hired by Lucas...
20100413 18:19:34< Blarumyrran> Gambit, is Darth Bane in some films then?
20100413 18:19:38< Gambit> He directs the overall history.
20100413 18:19:42< shadowmaster> Blarumyrran: no
20100413 18:20:04< Blarumyrran> I mean, I haven't seen the last 2 films really but yep I assumed so
20100413 18:20:05< Gambit> Blarumyrran: Lucas has much more planned than the small period in the movies.
20100413 18:20:24< shadowmaster> (anyway, I'm feeling the presence of a Fanboy)
20100413 18:20:27< shadowmaster> (brb)
20100413 18:20:27< Blarumyrran> I've heard he had another 3 films in mind that would've been even worse
20100413 18:21:10< Gambit> [spoiler] CHEWIE DIES! [/spoiler]
20100413 18:21:38< Blarumyrran> Lol?
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20100413 18:21:46< Gambit> everyone dies.
20100413 18:21:48< Blarumyrran> How can Chewbacca die in a Prequel
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20100413 18:22:07< Blarumyrran> Oh, I get it
20100413 18:22:22< Blarumyrran> Darth bane of the past discovers time travel
20100413 18:22:31< Gambit> Blarumyrran: the extra history goes about 100 years in the future
20100413 18:22:37< Gambit> And 1000 years in the past.
20100413 18:22:38< Blarumyrran> By making higgs bosons combust
20100413 18:22:54< Blarumyrran> spontaneously, no less.
20100413 18:24:52< Gambit> Actually he does discover the secret to immortality
20100413 18:25:05< Gambit> but AFAIK (this part hasn't been written yet) he dies before he can use it.
20100413 18:25:17< shadowmaster> that is...mentioned in episode III IIRC
20100413 18:25:36< Gambit> shadowmaster: sort of.
20100413 18:25:42< shadowmaster> except that the Pope- er, Palpatine doesn't mention Darth Bane's name
20100413 18:25:44< zookeeper> don't talk about SW with Blarumyrran. he called AT-AT's "gianthugeexpensive robots" and tow cables "ropes"!
20100413 18:25:54< Gambit> AFAIK when bane dies the secret is lost
20100413 18:25:57< Blarumyrran> :)
20100413 18:26:00< Gambit> but palpatines old master found it again
20100413 18:26:05< Gambit> under the couch no less ;)
20100413 18:26:18< Gambit> then palpatine killed him (also before he could use it AFAIK) XD
20100413 18:26:36< Gambit> It's like the elves from LoTR
20100413 18:26:49< Gambit> Immortal of dying of old age
20100413 18:26:55< Gambit> not a lightsaber between the ribs.
20100413 18:27:20< Gambit> The sith can transfer their "essence" to a new body.
20100413 18:27:31< Gambit> [spoilers] Palpatine of course uses this
20100413 18:27:55< shadowmaster> I think I read that in TVTrpes.
20100413 18:28:17< shadowmaster> sounds silly and stinks of creeping continuity, if you'd ask me.
20100413 18:28:17< Gambit> He uses it several times...
20100413 18:28:23< Gambit> yeah.
20100413 18:28:37< Gambit> Lucas apparently couldn't come up with a new bad guy
20100413 18:29:23< Gambit> That is until the creepy, bioweapon, cannot-be-sensed-with-the-force, terraform-your-planet-into-poison, OMFG WTF IS THAT, Vong.
20100413 18:29:27< Gambit> Best bad guys ever.
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20100413 18:29:46< shadowmaster> what the hell, shaxthals?
20100413 18:29:55< Gambit> Yeah except with legs!
20100413 18:29:57< Gambit> lol
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20100413 18:30:02< shadowmaster> shaxthals also have legs, you dumbass
20100413 18:30:07< Gambit> They look like man shaped fungi...
20100413 18:30:13< Gambit> The vong that is...
20100413 18:30:17< Gambit> Thier ships are living too.
20100413 18:30:22< shadowmaster> except that the most common kind in IftU are the airborne drones
20100413 18:30:46< Gambit> Now of course after the vong are [finally] dealt with there has to be another civil war.
20100413 18:30:56< Gambit> And now it looks like the sith are back.
20100413 18:31:04< Gambit> And chewie really did die.
20100413 18:31:08< Gambit> The author got death threats :o
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20100413 18:31:29< Gambit> He wanted to kill Luke, but Lucas said no. He wanted a main character, but not that main.
20100413 18:31:45< Blarumyrran> I liked the version of immortality in Dune more
20100413 18:32:17< Gambit> Also I have a correction to make from earlier.
20100413 18:32:22< Gambit> It goes 40 years after A New Hope
20100413 18:32:26< Gambit> and 5000 years before.
20100413 18:33:00< Gambit> Darth Bane's stuff is about 1000 years before though like I said.
20100413 18:33:47< shadowmaster> wait a second, this is #wesnoth?!
20100413 18:33:53< Blarumyrran> People just create clones with most memories of their former selves; there is never a transfer of consciousness or "essence", so they actually just die - but for everyone else they're almost the same
20100413 18:33:54< Gambit> haha
20100413 18:34:06< Gambit> Blarumyrran: That's awful :\
20100413 18:34:14< Blarumyrran> I like it very much
20100413 18:34:27< shadowmaster> hear hear, synerr likes it so we all must like it
20100413 18:34:28< Blarumyrran> That is the immortality of a person with a sense of mission, not someone who is just scared of death
20100413 18:34:33< Blarumyrran> Yes
20100413 18:34:47< Gambit> Ah I see.
20100413 18:34:50< King_Elendil> why are we talking about starwars?
20100413 18:34:55< Blarumyrran> Since his clone will obviously do what he'd have done if he still lived
20100413 18:34:57< shadowmaster> King_Elendil: that's what I'm wondering
20100413 18:35:02< King_Elendil> lol
20100413 18:35:07< shadowmaster> King_Elendil: most likely because we don't have anything wesnothian to talk about
20100413 18:35:16< King_Elendil> ah
20100413 18:35:38< Woodmouse> Star Wars is awesome
20100413 18:35:48< King_Elendil> LotR is too
20100413 18:36:16< Gambit> It's all shadowmasters fault.
20100413 18:36:26< Woodmouse> yeah
20100413 18:36:27< shadowmaster> HttT is awesome
20100413 18:36:29< Gambit> He mentioned taking over as emporer.
20100413 18:36:42< Woodmouse> LOL!? Is it shadowmaster's fault that SW and LotR are awesome!? :O
20100413 18:37:13< Gambit> so I guess this is a roundabout way of saying it...
20100413 18:37:41 * Gambit wants to help moderate forums.
20100413 18:38:13< Woodmouse> :o
20100413 18:38:21< shadowmaster> Gambit: over my dead body.
20100413 18:38:31< Gambit> Some day!
20100413 18:38:35< King_Elendil> lol
20100413 18:38:40< Gambit> Remember rule of two.
20100413 18:38:41< Gambit> :D
20100413 18:38:47< Gambit> But I'll have to be your apprentice first.
20100413 18:39:00< shadowmaster> you...can't really expect to get to a position of power by asking for it for your own amusement :|
20100413 18:39:10< Gambit> My own amusement?
20100413 18:39:13< shadowmaster> moderating this crap isn't as fun as it sounds from the users' point of view.
20100413 18:39:14< Blarumyrran> shadowmaster, no way, the armor on orcish grunts makes no sense - Konrad & Lisar can shoot them with the sceptreoffire and almost always hit, the armor offers them no resistance - but the orcs somehow always miss against the heroes
20100413 18:39:19< Gambit> "(12:37:32 PM) ***Gambit wants to help moderate forums."
20100413 18:39:25< Gambit> *wants to help*
20100413 18:39:29< Gambit> *help*
20100413 18:39:37 * shadowmaster offers Gambit some help
20100413 18:40:03< Woodmouse> lol
20100413 18:40:14< Gambit> shadowmaster: I know full well it's not "as fun as it sounds".
20100413 18:40:19< King_Elendil> you two seem to have very different personalities
20100413 18:40:30< Gambit> If you bothered to read my resume...
20100413 18:40:48< shadowmaster> for killing yourself, press 1. For making me kill you, press 2. Press any other option if you want shikadibot to kill you instead. If you want to die of a extremely dangerous disease, just put down the phone
20100413 18:41:11< Woodmouse> :O
20100413 18:41:15< Blarumyrran> Every disease that kills is extremely dangerous to you
20100413 18:41:20< King_Elendil> 2
20100413 18:41:23< shadowmaster> Gambit: your resume is nice. Much nicer than your behavior in the forums.
20100413 18:41:24 * King_Elendil hides
20100413 18:41:28< shadowmaster> I want a serious moderator, not a clown
20100413 18:41:38< King_Elendil> lol
20100413 18:41:44< shadowmaster> and since you mentioned that, I assume you were spying one of my conversations
20100413 18:41:52< Woodmouse> OMFG HE'S A CLOWN RUN RUN RUN
20100413 18:42:17< shadowmaster> I want Turuk :x
20100413 18:42:18< Gambit> Where do I clown? :\
20100413 18:42:45< Gambit> I help people all the time.
20100413 18:43:00< shadowmaster> yeah, you also help me
20100413 18:43:18< shadowmaster> :) (you help me fill my away log with crap when I'm unavailable for long)
20100413 18:43:31< Gambit> This is IRC. That's different. :P
20100413 18:43:39< shadowmaster> anyway, you can help people without being a moderator
20100413 18:44:13< Gambit> But I can be more useful as a moderator.
20100413 18:44:35< King_Elendil> Me on the other hand would make a very good and responsible moderator
20100413 18:44:41< King_Elendil> XD LOL XD
20100413 18:44:43< Blarumyrran> You could've been useful already if you had the proper mindset, Gambit
20100413 18:45:47< Gambit> Blarumyrran: ?
20100413 18:46:45< shadowmaster> Gambit: no, IRC is not different.
20100413 18:47:21< shadowmaster> Since I talk with people more on IRC than the forums due to lack of time, their conduct and experience on IRC is part of what I consider to evaluate them as a whole
20100413 18:47:29< shadowmaster> s/and experiencce//
20100413 18:47:40< shadowmaster> (well, that won't match anything)
20100413 18:48:13< shadowmaster> also, consider that most moderators have been forum regular first.
20100413 18:48:40< Gambit> Nobody's been made one of those in forever.
20100413 18:48:45< shadowmaster> lies.
20100413 18:48:51 * shadowmaster points at melinath
20100413 18:49:01< Blarumyrran> Melinath is not around anymore
20100413 18:49:06< Blarumyrran> So that's not a good example
20100413 18:49:06< shadowmaster> I know
20100413 18:49:08< Gambit> *a year*
20100413 18:49:10< shadowmaster> Blarumyrran: it still is.
20100413 18:49:50< Gambit> I can think of plent of people who've been mature and civil
20100413 18:50:04< shadowmaster> yeah, don't bother to name them
20100413 18:50:51< Gambit> lol
20100413 18:51:04< shadowmaster> well, you've just demonstrated my point
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20100413 18:51:14< Gambit> ?
20100413 18:51:27< Woodmouse> I bother! First, there is...
20100413 18:51:29< Woodmouse> (joking)
20100413 18:51:31< shadowmaster> "lol" is not an appropriate response to anything I said
20100413 18:51:50< Blarumyrran> It's an acronym
20100413 18:51:56< Blarumyrran> Acronyms are capitalized!
20100413 18:52:03< Gambit> I thought it was funny that you thought I'd be compiling a list at that moment.
20100413 18:52:10 * Gambit may or may not have been. :$
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20100413 18:52:53< Gambit> Actually I couldn't come up with any off the top of my head :\
20100413 18:53:05< Gambit> shadowmaster: So you're seriously saying I laugh too much. :\
20100413 18:53:06< Woodmouse> Well. Ken_Oh?
20100413 18:53:12< Gambit> Woodmouse: I think he is already.
20100413 18:53:21< Woodmouse> oh
20100413 18:53:22< Woodmouse> ok :o
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20100413 18:54:21< Gambit> Yeah.
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20100413 18:55:04< Gambit> shadowmaster: so how do you become a forum regular with nobody staying on top of that. :)
20100413 18:55:21< shadowmaster> is that a question?
20100413 18:55:24< Gambit> It can't just be that everyone since 2008 has been really immature.
20100413 18:55:37< Gambit> shadowmaster: Not really.
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20100413 18:56:14< Blarumyrran> Many of the people who aren't really immature have contributed in other ways and gained some more colorful title
20100413 18:56:18-!- Woodmouse is now known as SekoIdiootti
20100413 18:56:57< Blarumyrran> Forum regulars are only the rest.
20100413 18:56:57< Gambit> Blarumyrran: you can be in multiple groups.
20100413 18:57:01< Gambit> No.
20100413 18:57:14< Blarumyrran> Yeah, but why would you care about the other ones
20100413 18:57:25< shadowmaster> Gambit: I won't make myself into a forum regular only because I'm already a translator, art contributor, developer, global moderator and administrator
20100413 18:57:53< shadowmaster> if someone gets "forum regularship" before anything else, good. if they don't, they don't and that doesn't imply anything
20100413 18:58:37 * Gambit isn't going to be a back seat administrator. I'm just saying it's weird you would throw forum regularship out there when nobody seems to be maintaining that.
20100413 18:58:56< shadowmaster> I am the one that maintains that group.
20100413 18:59:07< shadowmaster> along with any other group that doesn't have an active leader.
20100413 18:59:41< Unnheulu> If irc conduct counts, I'll neveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeemod :D
20100413 18:59:45< Unnheulu> *never be a mod
20100413 18:59:48< Unnheulu> And never want to be one
20100413 19:00:05< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: yeah, you don't want, really. Unless you've got nerves of steel.
20100413 19:00:25< Unnheulu> I'm a network mod in another game, and that p****s me off enough
20100413 19:00:30< Gambit> which is true of all customer service jobs.
20100413 19:00:31< Blarumyrran> And a masochistic interest in routine
20100413 19:00:43< SekoIdiootti> and you have, sm. OR... No, you have... the great.. nerves.. of.. STONE!!!
20100413 19:00:54< shadowmaster> with people like these...
20100413 19:01:52< Unnheulu> (Because with networks you get so much ban evasion, especially when you can't ban ips and stuff)
20100413 19:01:59< Unnheulu> (As in the particular network I'm on)
20100413 19:05:49 * Unnheulu doesn't like silence...scary
20100413 19:06:01< SekoIdiootti> ok
20100413 19:06:08 * Gambit has a joke, but apparently shouldn't make it.
20100413 19:06:14< SekoIdiootti> why?
20100413 19:06:15< Gambit> Sorry Unnheulu. :P
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20100413 19:06:38< Unnheulu> ^^
20100413 19:06:43< SekoIdiootti> *supsenseful silence*
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20100413 19:07:01< SekoIdiootti> :O
20100413 19:07:14< SekoIdiootti> three sms!
20100413 19:07:16< SekoIdiootti> sms xD
20100413 19:07:25-!- mode/#wesnoth [+q *!*@cs148185.pp.htv.fi] by ChanServ
20100413 19:09:00< Unnheulu> Where's ChanServ?
20100413 19:09:19< Unnheulu> Sorry, will ask elsewhere
20100413 19:09:37< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: ChanServ is at services.
20100413 19:09:57< shadowmaster> or you thought that a network service needs to be in a channel to modify it?
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20100413 19:10:15< Unnheulu> Yeh, I thought it was like a normal bot
20100413 19:10:22< Unnheulu> Except run by the services
20100413 19:10:47< shadowmaster> no, it is not a bot
20100413 19:11:06< shadowmaster> well, it looks and acts like a bot but it actually is a pseudoclient created by atheme-services
20100413 19:11:22< Unnheulu> Come again? ;)
20100413 19:11:31< Gambit> google.
20100413 19:11:33< Unnheulu> Don't bother explaining I won't understand+clogs up the logs :P
20100413 19:11:44< Blarumyrran> Isn't every bot a "pseudoclient"
20100413 19:11:49< Unnheulu> (Although who uses the logs that much?)
20100413 19:11:52< shadowmaster> Blarumyrran: no, bots are normal clients like you and me
20100413 19:12:01< shadowmaster> I'm talking from the IRC server's perspective
20100413 19:12:28< Blarumyrran> Oh I see.
20100413 19:12:32< King_Elendil> Gambit, you should be happy that you once had the title "Loose Screw" remember?
20100413 19:13:04< Gambit> Yes a giant sign that says LOOK AT ME! :\
20100413 19:13:13< King_Elendil> or maybe that is one of your qualifications :p
20100413 19:13:19< Gambit> That's what I'm here for...
20100413 19:13:21< shadowmaster> normal clients (including bots) are connected to the IRC server using the TCP transport. Services pseudoclients do not have real connections; they are just handled by the services pseudoserver itself
20100413 19:13:24< Gambit> [/sarcasm]
20100413 19:14:40< shadowmaster> (pseudoserver as in it is not a complete ircd and it implements just whatever's enough to allow communication from/to network services, manipulate network routing, channel parameters, etc.
20100413 19:19:17< King_Elendil> shadowmaster, why do you have shadowmaster, shadowm_laptop, and shadowm connected?
20100413 19:19:30< shadowmaster> firstly, shadowm_laptop is my laptop session
20100413 19:19:31< King_Elendil> I assume they're all you right?
20100413 19:19:40< King_Elendil> ok
20100413 19:19:41< shadowmaster> secondly, shadowm is my other laptop session that is testing Quassel
20100413 19:19:50< shadowm> (stop highlighting me shadowmaster)
20100413 19:20:38< shadowmaster> I think that I don't like Quassel and I simply wasted my time, and a few file descriptors
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20100413 19:33:06< Gambit> Just noticed: Why is "check the FPI" crossed out in the Posting Guidelines?
20100413 19:33:12< Blueblaze> yay
20100413 19:33:15< Blueblaze> new Macbook Pros today
20100413 19:33:17< Blueblaze> and the world rejoices
20100413 19:35:21< shadowmaster> Gambit: because I like to draw lines through text
20100413 19:35:25< Unnheulu> Does it?
20100413 19:35:31< Unnheulu> I for one am not
20100413 19:35:42< Gambit> shadowmaster: That's a strange hobby.
20100413 19:35:44< Unnheulu> My HP Mini works fine, thanks
20100413 19:35:52< shadowmaster> and Turuk was the last person who edited that part, not me
20100413 19:36:01< Unnheulu> Gambit: is it?
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20100413 20:05:12< Unnheulu> LET THERE BE NOISE!
20100413 20:05:17< Unnheulu> I CAN'T STAND SILENCE!
20100413 20:07:08< shadowmaster> I can't stand noise.
20100413 20:07:10< shadowmaster> I win.
20100413 20:07:25< SekoIdiootti> You won. Insert another coin to continue.
20100413 20:07:35< shadowmaster> crap, I don't have cash.
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20100413 20:07:50< SekoIdiootti> We take credit cards.
20100413 20:08:19< SekoIdiootti> But wait... How could anyone stuff a credit card in a slot machine? :O
20100413 20:08:39< Grickit> SekoIdiootti: Have you seriously not seen modern soda machines?
20100413 20:08:51< SekoIdiootti> not like that, lol
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20100413 22:00:27< philstar> anybody know the details of why Wesbowl hasn't been updated for 1.8?
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20100413 22:03:41< Schtroumpfette> hi all ^^
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20100413 22:04:41< Soliton> philstar: it sucked and nobody wanted to maintain it.
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20100413 22:40:57< Gambit> internet has been really unreliable lately...
20100413 22:45:02< elias> yes, whether it works is a gambit
20100413 22:45:04< elias> *le
20100413 22:59:31< Blarumyrran> *le?
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20100413 23:21:12< Gambit> Blarumyrran: Gambit-it+le
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20100413 23:29:24< Blarumyrran> Gambit, I don't understand
20100413 23:29:39< Gambit> "yes, whether it works is a gamble"
20100413 23:29:58< Blarumyrran> Oh - I didn't understand your "-it" right now either
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