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20100422 01:56:31< Zerovirus> http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DemBones
20100422 01:56:43< Zerovirus> Valk's Deathblade is used as the image. How come I never noticed this?
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20100422 02:15:26< VurtualRuler98> Because to the average person, tv tropes is an innavigable jungle?
20100422 02:26:54< VurtualRuler98> The deeper you go, the more likely you'll do something like find an entry on a topic you never tried, then proceed to gradually look up more on that topic.
20100422 02:32:32< Zerovirus> Somehow this led me to Roguelikes which I am now downloading and trying out.
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20100422 03:23:48< PetePorty> jeeze... writing comments for each line in my game is a real pain in the ass...
20100422 03:24:32< shadowmaster> why would you do that?
20100422 03:25:33< ancestral> Writing comments is good
20100422 03:25:38< ancestral> It really, really is
20100422 03:25:42< shadowmaster> yes, but not that many
20100422 03:26:37< shadowmaster> when I hear novice programmers doing thhat, I start suspecting they write comments like "set x to 2" or "get the modulo between 8 and 5 and multiply it by 42"
20100422 03:27:29< ancestral> Agreed. Every line is like a bit too much
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20100422 03:48:01< PetePorty> it's because the game is for my personal prject.. and I have to get my teacher to understand what every single piece of code means...
20100422 03:49:39< Gambit> http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AdultsAreUseless
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20100422 03:55:28< PetePorty> hmm.... interesting gambit
20100422 03:55:34< PetePorty> ...he left...
20100422 03:56:01< ancestral> He did
20100422 03:56:16< ancestral> He has a life outside of here?
20100422 03:56:23 * ancestral scratches his head
20100422 04:04:09< PetePorty> he does
20100422 04:04:38< PetePorty> he's also involved on other internet comunities
20100422 04:04:50< PetePorty> "Believe it or not!"
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20100422 04:05:03< ancestral> Ripley's
20100422 04:05:12< PetePorty> Ripleys
20100422 04:05:30< PetePorty> Shogi is hard...
20100422 04:05:43< PetePorty> computer is beatting my ass
20100422 04:05:51< halifix> wesnoth 1.8 GUI is hard...
20100422 04:06:19< PetePorty> ...
20100422 04:06:36< ancestral> The GUI is hard?
20100422 04:06:49< ancestral> The AI is hard, or the GUI is hard to understand?
20100422 04:07:09< PetePorty> iron is hard to understand too you know...
20100422 04:07:17< ancestral> Heh
20100422 04:07:21< PetePorty> : D
20100422 04:07:32< halifix> the GUI is frustrating
20100422 04:07:38< halifix> for online play
20100422 04:08:02< PetePorty> hmmm
20100422 04:08:07< PetePorty> I like 1.8
20100422 04:08:21< PetePorty> cuz its the same as 1.7...
20100422 04:08:34< halifix> 1.7?
20100422 04:08:41< PetePorty> and since it came out I've preffered 1.7 more than 1.6
20100422 04:08:48< PetePorty> dev version
20100422 04:09:10< halifix> I downloaded some of the unstables. Although I stopped at 1.6.something.
20100422 04:09:12< ancestral> Well, 1.7 varied
20100422 04:09:25< halifix> I forgot about Wesnoth for a few months
20100422 04:09:29< ancestral> 1.7.0 is more like 1.6 obviously…
20100422 04:09:40< halifix> And now I'm being plagued by lists that don't go where I want
20100422 04:09:48< ancestral> 1.7.13 is more like 1.8 obvlously…
20100422 04:10:12< PetePorty> well, no mayoer change since 1.7.6 I'd say
20100422 04:10:13< ancestral> Not sure I get the point you're making other than 1.8 is stable
20100422 04:10:18< PetePorty> mayor*
20100422 04:10:26< ancestral> Okay
20100422 04:10:36< PetePorty> that... I like 1.8 more than 1.6
20100422 04:10:54< PetePorty> and I think haters and trolls should be burned
20100422 04:11:49< ancestral> Shame, the Mage went unchanged
20100422 04:12:05< ancestral> People had hinted the XP to level the mage would drop a couple of points
20100422 04:12:10< ancestral> (never did I guess…)
20100422 04:12:37< PetePorty> mage is already overpowered...
20100422 04:12:52< PetePorty> you just have to spoil him in his early age...
20100422 04:14:36< ancestral> Nah he's super weak
20100422 04:15:06< ancestral> Except ranged attacks during the day
20100422 04:15:37< PetePorty> you ever used an arch mage?
20100422 04:15:49< ancestral> Sure
20100422 04:16:01< PetePorty> THEY ARE AWESOME!
20100422 04:16:08< PetePorty> best unit there is
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20100422 04:18:11< ancestral> What about the Great Mage?
20100422 04:18:49< PetePorty> its the same
20100422 04:19:02< halifix> well, the same tree
20100422 04:21:55< PetePorty> yep
20100422 04:23:57< halifix> hm, I thought they remove the cold weakness/resistance from merman/naga lines
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20100422 04:43:01< PetePorty> k, bye guys... its showtime!
20100422 04:43:04< PetePorty> sleep well
20100422 04:43:31< PetePorty> shadowmaster, el club de la comedia is about to start
20100422 04:43:34< PetePorty> yay!
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20100422 05:02:07< halifix> Anyone know a player called Thamault? How long has he played?
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20100422 06:41:27< halifix> Not sure if anyone cares if I link something, but can we add a training wheel bicycle with skirmisher to the game?  http://i.imgur.com/2KhIt.gif
20100422 06:43:48< VurtualRuler98> A leader on a bicycle that can move onto a keep, even if zoc would stop him.
20100422 06:45:43< Blarumyrran> Even if there are enemies on that keep
20100422 06:45:53< Blarumyrran> Units on its path would be obliterated
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20100422 09:23:42-!- Topic for #wesnoth: Wesnoth User Channel | wesnoth.org | http://addons.wesnoth.org | latest stable version: 1.8.0 | public IRC logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
20100422 09:23:42-!- Topic set by Ivanovic [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] [Mon Apr  5 23:02:18 2010]
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20100422 09:23:43-!- Home page for #wesnoth: http://www.wesnoth.org
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20100422 17:22:08< Susi> does anyone know why it laggs in multiplayer lobby
20100422 17:24:08< Unnheulu> hi shadowmaster
20100422 17:24:16< Blarumyrran> Your computer is infested by mice. They build nests out of received messages and throw out old ones to your client, but you'll have to wait until they actually do it.
20100422 17:24:17< Unnheulu> Sorry if I annoyed you yesterday
20100422 17:24:33< Blarumyrran> Ultimately, they will chew through your wires, so you'd better deal with the problem
20100422 17:25:17< Susi> how to deal with the problem
20100422 17:25:24< Unnheulu> rat poison
20100422 17:25:46< Susi> and then
20100422 17:25:50< Blarumyrran> And a good shovel
20100422 17:25:53< Unnheulu> Or, alternatively, replacing your operating system with Haiku
20100422 17:26:02< Blarumyrran> You wouldn't want mouse corpses rotting in your computer
20100422 17:26:11< Susi> nop
20100422 17:26:12< Blarumyrran> It attracts larvae, and smells
20100422 17:26:27< Unnheulu> And to stop the problem from re-occuring, rebuild your computer with an Arduino
20100422 17:26:29< zookeeper> Susi, the lobby is a catastrophy and will be fixed sooner or later
20100422 17:26:40< Unnheulu> With a custom built operating system, naturally
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20100422 20:12:37< Glenn_> hello world!
20100422 20:12:50< Glenn_> Is Kyle around or does he not visit these parts?
20100422 20:13:29< Ivanovic> he tends to only be in the forums
20100422 20:13:35< shadowmaster> Kyle Pool? what Ivanovic said
20100422 20:13:47< Glenn_> ahh ok
20100422 20:13:48< shadowmaster> er, Poole, heh.
20100422 20:13:55< Glenn_> Any word on the iPad submission?
20100422 20:14:12< Glenn_> Hes killing me waiting for it :) I bought the iphone version but wont play it yet
20100422 20:14:38< Glenn_> I just dont want to get addicted to it, and have to restart playing it again when I get the iPad one
20100422 20:15:21< Ivanovic> ask him in the respective forum threads what the current status is...
20100422 20:15:48< Glenn_> NP
20100422 20:15:54< Unnheulu> The oversized iPod version?
20100422 20:16:53< SgtFlame|Work> I think the iPod is an undersized iPad, not the other way around ;-)
20100422 20:16:58< Glenn_> no the increadably awsome iPad version
20100422 20:17:33< SgtFlame|Work> I have both the iPod and iPad... I've all but retired my iPod.
20100422 20:17:48< Glenn_> thank you.. I hate people who think the iPad is an iTouch but larger.. I guess to you a 747 and a cessna are the same
20100422 20:18:04< Glenn_> I agree My iPod is WAYYYYY to small now it looks last gen
20100422 20:18:29< Glenn_> never noticed it before but the iPad spoiled me I wont go back to tiny screen again..
20100422 20:18:50< SgtFlame|Work> ya, same here... 
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20100422 20:18:53< Unnheulu> It can't fit in your pockets
20100422 20:18:59< shadowmaster> I think the iPad is not an iPod
20100422 20:19:00< Unnheulu> May as well use a netbook
20100422 20:19:24< shadowmaster> an a better anologous device would be a Tablet PC
20100422 20:19:26< SgtFlame|Work> Slate PC's coming out will be a good competitor for the iPad, but they're not out yet.
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20100422 20:20:46< Glenn_> netbooks SUCK and the apps set the iPad apart..
20100422 20:21:28< elias> if it would have a C compiler app...
20100422 20:22:05< sevis> Glenn_: What's wrong with netbooks?
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20100422 20:25:06< Unnheulu> The apps set it apart?
20100422 20:25:27< Unnheulu> When you can install *anything* on a netbook, and hardly anything on an iPad?
20100422 20:26:01< shadowmaster> I guess he was talking about quality, integration, ease of use, etc.
20100422 20:26:29< sevis> Intergration of what exactly?
20100422 20:26:52< shadowmaster> user interface? dunno
20100422 20:27:11< elias> quality of most apps seems to be rather low
20100422 20:27:14< shadowmaster> if I had one I'd not have money to buy food
20100422 20:27:24< shadowmaster> :P
20100422 20:27:32< sevis> Oh, yes, having an interface built into a device is wonderful. >.>
20100422 20:28:08< sevis> (smiley not directed at you, shadowmaster, I doubt you agree with that idea)
20100422 20:28:28< shadowmaster> um...well...I...it depends on what kind of interface
20100422 20:29:00< shadowmaster> I agree that SATA interfaces are good
20100422 20:29:28< sevis> I mean software-level interfaces.
20100422 20:29:39< SgtFlame|Work> If you have a developer license, you can install anything you want.
20100422 20:29:42< shadowmaster> API?
20100422 20:30:02< shadowmaster> I guess users are not interested in the progamming interfaces ;)
20100422 20:30:10< shadowmaster> SgtFlame|Work: how much does that cost?
20100422 20:30:22< sevis> API should be something you are offered, not something you are required to use.
20100422 20:30:32< SgtFlame|Work> $99 / year... the same as the XBox360 license
20100422 20:30:55< SgtFlame|Work> What's so different about it vs an XBox360?
20100422 20:30:56< shadowmaster> wonderful.
20100422 20:31:04< sevis> They want 100 bucks a year to let me install what I want on it?
20100422 20:31:06< SgtFlame|Work> You can't install anything you want on the XBox360
20100422 20:31:11< sevis> Am I renting it or something?
20100422 20:31:31< SgtFlame|Work> You're licensing the SDK.
20100422 20:31:56< SgtFlame|Work> I'm not saying it's a perfect solution... I hate that Apple is so closed about it.
20100422 20:32:09< SgtFlame|Work> But it's not quite as bad as some people are making it out to be either.
20100422 20:32:28< SgtFlame|Work> It's not a computer... it's more like a console.
20100422 20:32:48< SgtFlame|Work> think of it as a big PSP with a touch screen and an inexpensive SDK
20100422 20:32:55< SgtFlame|Work> PSP SDK is like $10k or something like that.
20100422 20:33:16< shadowmaster> it's a computer that is not a desktop computer or laptop ;)
20100422 20:33:34< sevis> SgtFlame, are you not concerned by the possibility they'll try to expand that way of thinking over to other things, too? It certainly seems like they're trying to increase the space between users and developers.
20100422 20:34:12< SgtFlame|Work> No, I'm not concerned about that.
20100422 20:34:16< shadowmaster> hopefully Apple won't take over the world
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20100422 20:35:14< shadowmaster> otherwise, oh noes the earth will dry up after being filled with lots of garbage we'll all become big fat zombies, etc.
20100422 20:35:21< sevis> shadowmaster: Do you think Apple can ever reach the position Microsoft currently has?
20100422 20:35:38< shadowmaster> sevis: I actually don't think, see above.
20100422 20:36:00< SgtFlame|Work> I don't think we'll ever have a monopoly like Microsoft again.
20100422 20:36:34< sevis> You mean "hopefully Apple won't take over the world"?
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20100422 20:37:16 * Unnheulu thinks Apple could make the worst product in the history of the world, and still have it proclaimed great
20100422 20:37:17< SgtFlame|Work> Apple won't take over the world... we'll have three or four basic OS's by Apple, Google, Microsoft and Linux
20100422 20:37:42< Unnheulu> Beans on toast were nice, thanks for asking^^
20100422 20:37:57< shadowmaster> Google is an OS?  o O
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20100422 20:38:04< Unnheulu> ChromeOS
20100422 20:38:09< SgtFlame|Work> The least common denominator will be HTML5 and that's a pretty powerful lowest denominator 
20100422 20:38:10< shadowmaster> that's not "Google"
20100422 20:38:20< SgtFlame|Work> neither is Apple.. is said "by ..."
20100422 20:38:23< Unnheulu> Neither is Mac OS X "Apple"
20100422 20:38:24< sevis> Sgt, would they be split by sector (Windows for gaming, Linux for servers, etc.), or would a significant number apps be ported to all?
20100422 20:38:25< shadowmaster> that's "modified by Google"
20100422 20:38:28< shadowmaster> IMHO anyway
20100422 20:38:38< Unnheulu> Mac OS X was BSD last I checked
20100422 20:38:44< shadowmaster> ah wait, I'm confusing things
20100422 20:38:48< Unnheulu> Well, heavily modified >.>
20100422 20:39:03< shadowmaster> yeah, then again, Linux doesn't make the OS
20100422 20:39:19< sevis> shadowmaster, just take that as a typo, it's only one letter. :P
20100422 20:39:22< SgtFlame|Work> sevis: I think there will be a lot of common apps that are HTML5 based, and each device will have a slew of their own apps and their own stores.
20100422 20:39:24< Unnheulu> Something I'm tired of saying in school
20100422 20:39:43< Unnheulu> Everyone says Linux is "crap" because its a "freebie" and isn't even a company
20100422 20:40:07< SgtFlame|Work> shadowmaster: ya, sorry... not Linux, I should've said RedHat, Canonical et all
20100422 20:40:07< Unnheulu> Right now, I'm just not bothering to reply, 'cause I've explained thousands of times, literally
20100422 20:40:17< sevis> Hm, well, I hope Linux stays strong on local apps, I like the amount of control I have at the moment.
20100422 20:40:30< SgtFlame|Work> sevis: ya same here, at least for my desktop
20100422 20:40:39< SgtFlame|Work> hrm, and servers too
20100422 20:40:45 * Unnheulu still wonders the point of ReactOS
20100422 20:40:57< Unnheulu> May as well use wine :/
20100422 20:41:06< Unnheulu> (Unless I'm missing something)
20100422 20:41:11< sevis> Unnheulu, point them to the commercial distros?
20100422 20:41:19< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: kernel mode drivers
20100422 20:41:39< shadowmaster> those can't be made to run on Linux most of the time, except for a few exceptions such as WLAN drives with ndiswrapper
20100422 20:41:41< Unnheulu> sevis: I have, they seem to always find the download of slackware, or gentoo or something instead >.<
20100422 20:42:00< Unnheulu> And then never touch it again
20100422 20:42:01< shadowmaster> remember that WINE is just an user-mode application.
20100422 20:42:16< shadowmaster> er, application framework :P
20100422 20:42:36< SgtFlame|Work> ya, and WINE is surprisingly good.
20100422 20:42:45 * Unnheulu could swear fill algorithms hate him
20100422 20:42:58< Unnheulu> SgtFlame|Work: Which is why it still can't run a 8 year old game?
20100422 20:43:03< Unnheulu> *an
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20100422 20:43:09< SgtFlame|Work> There are a few apps that I can only get for Windows (L3DT for example)
20100422 20:43:22< SgtFlame|Work> eh, it doesn't work all the time... the few apps I've tried work well, unless they use DirectX
20100422 20:43:27< Aethaeryn> Apps... such a Mac term.
20100422 20:43:39< Aethaeryn> For Windows, it's programs, as in "Program Files" and "Add/Remove Programs"
20100422 20:43:44< Unnheulu> Xfce menu says applications :/
20100422 20:43:49< Aethaeryn> "Apps" really went back in style when iPhone came in style.
20100422 20:43:49< Unnheulu> (and places, but...)
20100422 20:43:51< SgtFlame|Work> Apps is an old term
20100422 20:43:54< Aethaeryn> :P
20100422 20:44:00< SgtFlame|Work> Apple made it mainstream
20100422 20:44:02< Aethaeryn> I said, back in style.
20100422 20:44:04< SgtFlame|Work> ya
20100422 20:44:06< Aethaeryn> Apps was probably all a 
20100422 20:44:11< Aethaeryn> Apple thing.
20100422 20:44:17< Aethaeryn> *App*le
20100422 20:44:29< SgtFlame|Work> Hrm, quite true Aethaeryn... Apple probably did invent the term :P
20100422 20:44:37< SgtFlame|Work> They invented Windows :P
20100422 20:44:46< SgtFlame|Work> Actually not true... Xerox did
20100422 20:44:57< SgtFlame|Work> Apple copied them, Microsoft copied Apple
20100422 20:45:04< Aethaeryn> Xerox invented the GUI...
20100422 20:45:07< Aethaeryn> Apple commercialized it.
20100422 20:45:12< Aethaeryn> And Microsoft freed it from hardware dependency.
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20100422 20:45:22< SgtFlame|Work> heh good perspective 
20100422 20:45:33< Aethaeryn> And Linux freed it from price.
20100422 20:45:43< SgtFlame|Work> Google's doing a better job of freeing things
20100422 20:45:58< SgtFlame|Work> Google freed it from location
20100422 20:47:01< Unnheulu> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8637473.stm
20100422 20:47:02< Unnheulu> haha
20100422 20:47:21< Unnheulu> (In case you don't know, BNP is the British National Party, commonly known as racist)
20100422 20:47:38< Unnheulu> And has "illegal" policies
20100422 20:49:14< SgtFlame|Work> lol
20100422 20:50:10< SgtFlame|Work> Reminds me of Hormel getting irritated that Spam was being used as a term relating to unsolicited e-mails rather than their wonderful tasting meat by-product ;-)
20100422 20:50:33 * Unnheulu smirks
20100422 20:50:41< Unnheulu> I don't even see spam in the shops
20100422 20:50:45< Unnheulu> Never even tried it :D
20100422 20:50:53< Unnheulu> bbiab food!!!
20100422 20:50:56< shadowmaster> blame Monty Python's.
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20100422 20:52:35< Unnheulu> back^^
20100422 20:52:47< Unnheulu> Isn't Monty Python that thing with John Cleese?
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20100422 20:53:52< SgtFlame|Work> Unnheulu: yes... Four Yorkshiremen
20100422 20:54:17< Unnheulu> SgtFlame|Work: Where you from?
20100422 20:54:22< Unnheulu> [are]
20100422 20:54:43< SgtFlame|Work> I'm from Dallas, TX, USA but I live in New York City right now
20100422 20:54:54< Unnheulu> Aka, USA :P
20100422 20:55:16 * Unnheulu still hasn't learnt most of the US state codes, so don't swamp me with them :P
20100422 20:55:26< SgtFlame|Work> I'm sure you've heard of NYC though ;-)
20100422 20:55:30< Unnheulu> It just so happens I know where Dallas is, but, most other cities :/
20100422 20:55:38< Unnheulu> NYC, New Jersey?
20100422 20:55:39< Unnheulu> :P
20100422 20:55:42< SgtFlame|Work> lol
20100422 20:56:55 * Unnheulu wonders if Americans know where Wales is
20100422 20:57:51 * Unnheulu seriously thinks that fill algorithms hate him :(
20100422 20:58:17< SgtFlame|Work> eh, Wales is in the UK somewhere right?
20100422 20:58:35< Unnheulu> Mmhmm
20100422 20:58:44< Unnheulu> D'ya know its capitol? :P
20100422 20:59:06< SgtFlame|Work> Americans know a bunch of names... my biggest problem is I don't always know if it's a city, state, country, etc :P
20100422 20:59:10< Unnheulu> Interesting, I accidently got it to fill diagonally
20100422 20:59:15< Unnheulu> Wales=Principality
20100422 21:00:09< SgtFlame|Work> And no, I don't know the capital :P
20100422 21:00:09< Unnheulu> Last I checked, we don't have states here :P
20100422 21:00:22< Unnheulu> thespaceinvader lives in the capitol
20100422 21:00:43< Unnheulu> Cloud, iirc lives somewhere in the west
20100422 21:01:03< Unnheulu> SgtFlame|Work: How high are all the buildings in NYC?
20100422 21:01:16 * Unnheulu has never seen a building higher than the BT tower
20100422 21:01:45< SgtFlame|Work> 400+ meters
20100422 21:01:59< Unnheulu> :/ O.o
20100422 21:02:05< SgtFlame|Work> eh, some of them anyways... 200 - 300 meters is common
20100422 21:02:09< Unnheulu> Bt tower is 191m
20100422 21:02:21 * Unnheulu checks the height of the canary wharf
20100422 21:02:36< SgtFlame|Work> I live very close to the Chrysler building... it's about 300m
20100422 21:02:49< SgtFlame|Work> I can see it on all north/south streets
20100422 21:02:59< SgtFlame|Work> (which we call avenues)
20100422 21:03:06< SgtFlame|Work> east / west are streets
20100422 21:03:12< Unnheulu> Wow
20100422 21:03:28< Unnheulu> Britain's tallest (I havn't seen) is only 235m
20100422 21:04:19< Unnheulu> Tallest near me is 107m
20100422 21:04:25< SgtFlame|Work> Cardiff only has about 317k people compared to New York City which has 8+ million
20100422 21:04:35< Unnheulu> Canary Wharf is in London
20100422 21:04:41< Unnheulu> New York only has 8mil?
20100422 21:04:48< Unnheulu> London has almost that many :/
20100422 21:05:07 * Unnheulu doesn't live in Cardiff^^
20100422 21:05:28< SgtFlame|Work> The city proper has over 8 million, the metro area has nearly 20 million
20100422 21:05:31< Unnheulu> Okays, 3 years ago, there was 7.5mil people there
20100422 21:05:34< Unnheulu> ah
20100422 21:05:43< Unnheulu> Metro area of London is 14mil a few years ago
20100422 21:05:59 * Unnheulu thought NYC was masses bigger than London >.>
20100422 21:06:24< SgtFlame|Work> no... just more compact I think
20100422 21:06:41< Unnheulu> Meh
20100422 21:06:45< Unnheulu> Its a lot higher
20100422 21:07:13< SgtFlame|Work> I definitely enjoy living in NYC
20100422 21:07:40< SgtFlame|Work> I love having everything so close... other than for work, I rarely need to venture more than 5 - 6 blocks for anything..
20100422 21:07:51< Unnheulu> Move to a town :P
20100422 21:07:59< Unnheulu> School is like 3 "blocks" away
20100422 21:08:04< SgtFlame|Work> eh, I've lived in suburbs before and I hated it
20100422 21:08:09< Unnheulu> (Although the block is more of a super long terrace_
20100422 21:08:26< Unnheulu> Aww man
20100422 21:08:33< Unnheulu> I live in Cardiff's "LUZ"
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20100422 21:09:25< SgtFlame|Work> I live on Manhattan island in what we call "The Villiage"
20100422 21:09:29< Unnheulu> What's to hate about them?
20100422 21:09:54< SgtFlame|Work> Inconvenient 
20100422 21:10:11< Unnheulu> Hmm?
20100422 21:10:17 * Unnheulu looks up suburbs
20100422 21:10:41< SgtFlame|Work> American suburbs are compact residential areas with the commercial areas completely separate
20100422 21:10:46< Unnheulu> Aha
20100422 21:10:51< SgtFlame|Work> You can't walk anywhere to do anything... you must drive a car.
20100422 21:10:56< Unnheulu> So not with town centres and stuff?
20100422 21:11:28< SgtFlame|Work> Some have town centers... mostly just shopping malls, which I completely dislike.
20100422 21:11:34< Unnheulu> Hmm
20100422 21:11:39< SgtFlame|Work> Everything's cookie cutter
20100422 21:12:03< SgtFlame|Work> NYC has very few "chains" compared to individual shops.
20100422 21:12:22< Unnheulu> Really?
20100422 21:12:28 * Unnheulu thought it would be filled with chains
20100422 21:12:42< Unnheulu> I like that about a town, not too many chains, but, enough to stick around
20100422 21:12:43< Unnheulu> bbiab
20100422 21:12:46< Unnheulu> fishies need feeding
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20100422 21:20:38< Unnheulu> back
20100422 21:22:08< SgtFlame|Work> wb :P
20100422 21:22:16< sevis> Wibble.
20100422 21:22:17< Unnheulu> ;)
20100422 21:22:27< SgtFlame|Work> So what do you do with wesnot, Unnheulu ?
20100422 21:22:32< SgtFlame|Work> wesnoth*
20100422 21:22:37< Unnheulu> Play it ;)
20100422 21:22:39< Unnheulu> Freeloader
20100422 21:22:42< SgtFlame|Work> ah heh
20100422 21:23:02< SgtFlame|Work> I think I'm worse than a freeloader... I haven't even played it yet.
20100422 21:23:13< Unnheulu> Heh
20100422 21:23:17< SgtFlame|Work> I'm using the art assets to show off a game engine I'm making :P
20100422 21:24:54< Unnheulu> Cool
20100422 21:25:06< Unnheulu> Is that your job (programming)
20100422 21:25:26< SgtFlame|Work> ya
20100422 21:25:46< SgtFlame|Work> My "day" job I write software for financial companies
20100422 21:25:52< Unnheulu> Cool :)
20100422 21:25:57< SgtFlame|Work> My hobbie is http://www.IndieZen.org and http://www.IndieGameEngine.com
20100422 21:26:16< SgtFlame|Work> hobby*
20100422 21:26:17 * Unnheulu 's Dad work's in the financial industry
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20100422 21:27:41< Unnheulu> LUA? :(
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20100422 21:37:19< elias> lua is bad... apple even banned it from their devices :P
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20100422 22:04:20< SgtFlame|Work> I really like Lua 
20100422 22:04:46< SgtFlame|Work> I like some features of ActionScript and JavaScript too
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20100422 22:10:23< Unnheulu> JavaScript is nice
20100422 22:10:29< Unnheulu> Never tried ActionScrip
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20100422 23:45:36< Zerovirus> Gambit: How'd you get chosen to moderate the new Experimental Corner?
20100422 23:45:45< Gambit> Dunno.
20100422 23:46:27< Zerovirus> What, you just logged in and suddenly you found yourself moderating?
20100422 23:46:39< Gambit> No.
20100422 23:46:59< Gambit> I was eating away the sad about not making forum mod all over when I got pinged by fabi here on irc.
20100422 23:47:15< Gambit> jk about eating away the sad though.
20100422 23:47:17< Gambit> :P
20100422 23:47:56< Gambit> I was moderating the killing fields of killzone 2 at the time. Teaching noobs to respect the "stay out of good players' way" guidelines :)
20100422 23:48:26< Gambit> Anywho... going afk.
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