--- Log opened Fri Apr 23 00:00:43 2010 --- Day changed Fri Apr 23 2010 20100423 00:00:43-!- elias [~elias@allegro/developer/allefant] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20100423 00:02:30-!- SgtFlame|Work [~trichards@67.228.184.7-static.reverse.softlayer.com] has quit [Quit: going home bbl] 20100423 00:03:22-!- qemqemqem [~quassel@cpe-74-74-155-246.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #wesnoth 20100423 00:03:51-!- Fother [~Fother_J@pool-96-254-221-178.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20100423 00:04:58-!- Fother [~Fother_J@pool-96-254-221-178.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wesnoth 20100423 00:05:04-!- pokhbocee [~pokhbocee@ws33.cs.drexel.edu] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 20100423 00:08:37< PetePorty> So..... tired 20100423 00:10:46< Zerovirus> Then sleep perhaps? 20100423 00:15:34< PetePorty> have to work... 20100423 00:18:19< Zerovirus> Caffeine. 20100423 00:19:57-!- Unnheulu [~52050b21@gateway/web/freenode/x-mfmihxdxxkvnukax] has joined #wesnoth 20100423 00:23:26-!- FireFly [~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly] has quit [Quit: Hey! Listen!] 20100423 00:24:37-!- PetePorty [~Pete@pc-139-120-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20100423 00:24:53< Unnheulu> Pete 20100423 00:25:36< Unnheulu> Http://www.jonespenarth.me.uk/~ieuan/Screenshot-Amazolia-7.png 20100423 00:25:50< Unnheulu> Peteporty, look :P 20100423 00:26:23< Unnheulu> Still internal support for loads of unseen stuff 20100423 00:26:32< Unnheulu> s/unseen/unused/ 20100423 00:27:40< Unnheulu> Sand tiles are [finally] being improved 20100423 00:27:49< Unnheulu> New cursor almost done too 20100423 00:28:08< Unnheulu> Sand tiles have variations 20100423 00:41:16< Zerovirus> These terrain tiles scare me. 20100423 00:43:11 * Unnheulu smirks 20100423 00:43:38< Unnheulu> All of them are down to be redrawn :P 20100423 00:44:15-!- vjoe [~vjoe@client-86-25-242-166.mcr-bng-013.adsl.virginmedia.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20100423 00:44:57-!- Aloice [aloice@c-98-198-88-31.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth 20100423 00:46:09-!- Aloice [aloice@c-98-198-88-31.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 20100423 00:48:43< Unnheulu> Zerovirus, if that's what you think, check this out: 20100423 00:48:49< Unnheulu> http://www.jonespenarth.me.uk/~ieuan/Screenshot-Amazolians-1.png 20100423 00:48:59< Unnheulu> Now say they're scary :) 20100423 00:49:37< Zerovirus> Actually I find that marginally better. Marginally. But I prefer acknowledging "My tiles suck" over pretending "This is totally a beautiful image tile". :P 20100423 00:50:02< Unnheulu> Heh 20100423 00:50:22< Unnheulu> In all seriousness, I spent 2 minutes on the new tiles 20100423 00:50:23< Zerovirus> What project is this? 20100423 00:50:35< Unnheulu> An rts I'm making 20100423 00:50:55< Unnheulu> Very covert stuff ;) 20100423 00:50:56-!- SpoOkyMagician [~chatzilla@74-138-202-211.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #wesnoth 20100423 00:51:26 * Unnheulu wonders if his screeny would give jetryl a heart attack 20100423 00:53:49< Unnheulu> Pre screeny 1, everything was either blue yellow green or brown with the respective writing, still have the images somewhere 20100423 00:58:38-!- maackey [~maackey@pool-71-180-66-243.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20100423 01:00:08-!- PetePorty [~Pete@pc-139-120-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #wesnoth 20100423 01:00:13< PetePorty> done... 20100423 01:00:18< PetePorty> I'm finally done.... 20100423 01:01:11< Zerovirus> now sleep. 20100423 01:01:13< Zerovirus> Or caffeine. 20100423 01:01:28< PetePorty> eat 20100423 01:01:34< PetePorty> Im going out now... 20100423 01:01:42< PetePorty> and I'm gonna have fun 20100423 01:02:12< PetePorty> or... I could actually finish one of the other hundred stuff I need to do for tomorrow... 20100423 01:02:20-!- ilor [~ilor@wesnoth/developer/ilor] has joined #wesnoth 20100423 01:02:22< PetePorty> nah, I'm going out 20100423 01:02:24< PetePorty> bye 20100423 01:02:45< Unnheulu> Bye 20100423 01:03:26-!- ilor_ [~ilor@wesnoth/developer/ilor] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20100423 01:03:34< Unnheulu> Pete 20100423 01:03:39< Unnheulu> Look at screeny 20100423 01:03:52< Unnheulu> It looks better than wesnoth now 20100423 01:04:25< PetePorty> k 20100423 01:04:28< PetePorty> send 20100423 01:05:03< Unnheulu> http://www.jonespenarth.me.uk/~ieuan/Screenshot-Amazolia-7.png 20100423 01:05:25< PetePorty> lol 20100423 01:05:35< Unnheulu> I was kidding about the beautiful part btw 20100423 01:06:15< Unnheulu> But, believe me when isaid I supported more thani showed last time? :P 20100423 01:06:27< Unnheulu> Art does not maketh a game 20100423 01:06:40< PetePorty> kinda does 20100423 01:06:52< Unnheulu> Zero, opinion? 20100423 01:06:58< Unnheulu> Gameplay or art? 20100423 01:07:28< PetePorty> both, but art is the primarly attraction part, crappy art = noone wants to play 20100423 01:07:43< Unnheulu> Not really 20100423 01:07:49< Unnheulu> I love wesnoth 0.1 20100423 01:07:59< Unnheulu> Besides I'm still making the engine 20100423 01:08:36< PetePorty> never played 0.1, but from screenshots I'd say i wouldn't have played it.... 20100423 01:08:49< PetePorty> well, gtg... bye 20100423 01:08:49-!- Unnheulu [~52050b21@gateway/web/freenode/x-mfmihxdxxkvnukax] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20100423 01:08:51-!- PetePorty [~Pete@pc-139-120-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Quit: Saliendo] 20100423 01:09:26-!- Unnheulu [~52050b21@gateway/web/freenode/x-astmksahpacsdrzh] has joined #wesnoth 20100423 01:09:31< Unnheulu> Can you repeat that, sorry? :P 20100423 01:10:04< Unnheulu> He's gone 20100423 01:10:05< Unnheulu> :/ 20100423 01:13:04-!- Unnheulu [~52050b21@gateway/web/freenode/x-astmksahpacsdrzh] has quit [Client Quit] 20100423 01:20:59< Zerovirus> My honest opinion? Gameplay. Art is important but not nearly so as actually making the game fun. 20100423 01:23:07-!- rujasu [~rujasu@pool-71-166-126-115.bltmmd.east.verizon.net] has joined #wesnoth 20100423 01:25:23-!- rujasu [~rujasu@pool-71-166-126-115.bltmmd.east.verizon.net] has left #wesnoth [] 20100423 01:54:44< Gambit> Boo 20100423 01:55:22< Zerovirus> Hoo 20100423 01:56:03< Gambit> Zerovirus: Hypothetical question. 20100423 01:56:13< Zerovirus> Uh-huh 20100423 01:56:25< Gambit> How long would it take you to sprite this? http://www.dixonschwabl.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/tardis.jpg :P 20100423 01:56:34< Gambit> Just kidding, it's copyrighted. :( 20100423 01:57:00< Zerovirus> 30 minutes tops 20100423 01:57:05< Zerovirus> right angles are really easy. 20100423 01:57:47 * Gambit is making a Dr. Who inspired minigame this weekend. 20100423 01:57:57< Zerovirus> lol 20100423 01:58:01< Gambit> But it can't use custom art anyways. 20100423 01:58:06< Zerovirus> Never watched Dr. Who before. 20100423 01:58:12< Gambit> Because I want it to not have to be downloadable. 20100423 01:58:23< Gambit> *Downloaded 20100423 01:59:23< Zerovirus> So explain the idea behind this addon? 20100423 02:02:04< Gambit> Are you able to watch youtube videos? 20100423 02:02:07< Gambit> It's a coop survival. 20100423 02:02:12< Gambit> Based on the episode Blink 20100423 02:02:38< Gambit> There are 4 super powerful angels on the field. 20100423 02:02:43< Gambit> You have to work togethor to kill them. 20100423 02:02:54< Gambit> They become immoble, and invincible while you can see them though. 20100423 02:03:13< Gambit> At the begining of one of the players's turns, if the angels aren't fogged or hidden then they turn to stone. 20100423 02:03:45< Gambit> The angels have nightstalk though. 20100423 02:04:16-!- Fother [~Fother_J@pool-96-254-221-178.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20100423 02:04:17< Zerovirus> I am very confused. 20100423 02:04:34< Gambit> On which part? 20100423 02:05:42< Zerovirus> Every part. 20100423 02:05:55< Zerovirus> So you have to chase them down while you can't see them? 20100423 02:05:58-!- Fother [~Fother_J@pool-96-254-221-178.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wesnoth 20100423 02:06:11< Gambit> It will be pseudo stone, you'll be able to attack them while they're stoned. 20100423 02:06:50< Zerovirus> Okay, so when you can see them they're immobile and stoned but you can attack them, however most of the time they're stealthy with nightstalk and are super strong. 20100423 02:06:52< Zerovirus> Is that right? 20100423 02:06:56< Gambit> But when they attack a unit, it's almost guarenteed to die. 20100423 02:07:17< Gambit> Yeah. And I shouldn't have said "invincible" earlier. 20100423 02:07:31< Zerovirus> So both sides are human played right? 20100423 02:07:47< Gambit> No. The angels are AI. 20100423 02:08:01< Gambit> The other 1-4 players are human. 20100423 02:08:20< Zerovirus> Alright. Recruit yes? 20100423 02:08:24< Zerovirus> Do villages exist here? 20100423 02:08:26< Gambit> Yes. 20100423 02:08:28< Gambit> And yes. 20100423 02:09:04< Gambit> I need to find some way to let eras create sides. 20100423 02:09:36< Zerovirus> So basic tactics= swarm map with cheap units, then swarm angels with units? 20100423 02:10:33< Gambit> Yea but all your units are pretty much one hit ko for the angels. 20100423 02:11:04< Zerovirus> Are we talking 100-5 magical strong? 20100423 02:11:45< Gambit> I think 50-4 magical should be good. 20100423 02:11:55< Gambit> With a weapon special that makes it do only 5 on defense. 20100423 02:12:51< Zerovirus> Hmm. 20100423 02:12:58< Zerovirus> Now, in what way was this based of Dr. Who? 20100423 02:13:09< Gambit> I might make them lower HP though and spawn a new one every turn >:[ 20100423 02:13:16< Gambit> Then it would be a true survival. 20100423 02:13:20< Gambit> And probably unwinnable. 20100423 02:13:26< Gambit> The first one would be a leader with massive HP maybe. 20100423 02:13:46< Gambit> It's based on one episode of Doctor Who. 20100423 02:13:51< Gambit> The Doctor wasn't even in it much. 20100423 02:14:41< Zerovirus> Oh dang that'd be awesome. 20100423 02:14:49< Zerovirus> Unkillable survival. 20100423 02:14:50< Gambit> People will brag "We made it to turn 15" ;) 20100423 02:15:31-!- Fother [~Fother_J@pool-96-254-221-178.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20100423 02:16:59-!- Fother [~Fother_J@pool-96-254-221-178.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wesnoth 20100423 02:17:53< Gambit> Yep. I'm going to try to set a personal record. 20100423 02:18:19< Gambit> A game that can be finished in under an hour :P 20100423 02:19:30< Zerovirus> A one-turn game with no recruits and leaders only 20100423 02:20:29< Gambit> And if I use [base_unit] on the sylph it won't need to be downloaded. 20100423 02:22:22< Gambit> I'll package it with a revamped version of Hunters and Prey in "Gambits Minigame Pack" 20100423 02:23:53< Zerovirus> Goody there. 20100423 02:24:06< Zerovirus> You tend to make scenarios where the players have to hunt down hidden units though. 20100423 02:24:59< Gambit> Weird... you're right. 20100423 02:26:46-!- Fother [~Fother_J@pool-96-254-221-178.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20100423 02:27:32< Gambit> Actually the hidden units will be hunting you this time ;) 20100423 02:27:58-!- Fother [~Fother_J@pool-96-254-221-178.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wesnoth 20100423 02:28:52< Zerovirus> How many units does a player get to recruit? 20100423 02:31:05< Gambit> That'd depend on the gold. 20100423 02:31:10< Gambit> And faction. 20100423 02:31:47< Zerovirus> What I mean is, what's the economy? With peak villages, how often do they get another unit and how much gold do they start with or should start with? 20100423 02:32:25< Gambit> It's like default gameplay, just with strange new units. 20100423 02:33:06< Zerovirus> strange new units? 20100423 02:35:23-!- Bertram [~yohann@ADijon-259-1-143-33.w90-39.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20100423 02:35:34< Zerovirus> afk 20100423 02:43:08-!- PetePorty [~Pete@pc-139-120-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #wesnoth 20100423 02:43:23< PetePorty> yay! I'm back! and with full energy!!! 20100423 02:43:36< Zerovirus> Goody. 20100423 02:43:43< PetePorty> hi zero 20100423 02:44:15< PetePorty> so... did I miss anything? 20100423 02:44:27< Zerovirus> Not really, me and gambit discussed a new addon he would make 20100423 02:44:43< PetePorty> hmmmm.... 20100423 02:51:56-!- Zerovirus [~62c45c53@gateway/web/freenode/x-znhlyfvirbhwmmqu] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20100423 02:53:19-!- AmateurEngineer [~Ryan@e44.nat.iastate.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20100423 03:01:49< Gambit> Uncyclopedia say what? "although rumors are abound about an upcoming Yankees vs. Mets vs. Sherlock Holmes mod" 20100423 03:01:55< Gambit> Is that legal? 20100423 03:03:56< PetePorty> O.o 20100423 03:04:01-!- AmateurEngineer [~Ryan@e44.nat.iastate.edu] has joined #wesnoth 20100423 03:04:14< PetePorty> Ryan! you are back! 20100423 03:05:59< Gambit> From outer space. 20100423 03:06:14< Gambit> I just logged in to find you sitting here... eh nevermind. 20100423 03:07:14-!- meric [~Eric@124-170-95-207.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #wesnoth 20100423 03:09:02< PetePorty> O.o 20100423 03:19:14-!- Nissarin [~nissarin@91.202.192.6] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20100423 03:27:56-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth 20100423 03:40:10< PetePorty> bye guys... music time.. c ya 20100423 03:40:13-!- PetePorty [~Pete@pc-139-120-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Quit: Saliendo] 20100423 03:42:39-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy] 20100423 03:44:04-!- Zarel [~Zarel@warzone2100/developer/Zarel] has joined #wesnoth 20100423 03:51:01-!- AmateurEngineer [~Ryan@e44.nat.iastate.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20100423 03:51:08-!- TaylorSwift [~Taylor@222-155-80-77.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #wesnoth 20100423 03:55:17-!- danthux [~gnuchile@190.20.196.170] has joined #wesnoth 20100423 03:55:31-!- Zarel [~Zarel@warzone2100/developer/Zarel] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20100423 04:03:15-!- AmateurEngineer [~Ryan@e44.nat.iastate.edu] has joined #wesnoth 20100423 04:12:34-!- [NaL] is now known as [Sleeperz] 20100423 04:13:03-!- meric [~Eric@124-170-95-207.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Quit: meric] 20100423 04:14:56-!- danthux [~gnuchile@190.20.196.170] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20100423 04:25:21-!- SwiftrTaylor [~Taylor@222-155-82-194.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #wesnoth 20100423 04:27:52-!- TaylorSwift [~Taylor@222-155-80-77.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20100423 04:29:52-!- danthux [~gnuchile@190.20.196.170] has joined #wesnoth 20100423 04:30:57-!- ancestral [~ancestral@97-116-122-90.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth 20100423 04:37:12-!- SpoOkyMagician [~chatzilla@74-138-202-211.dhcp.insightbb.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401080539]] 20100423 04:38:51-!- Ivanovic_ [~ivanovic@dtmd-4db2f8bb.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #wesnoth 20100423 04:41:36-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20100423 04:42:49-!- Ivanovic_ is now known as Ivanovic 20100423 04:59:55-!- Queenie [~teodora@91.148.110.28] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20100423 05:27:27-!- Gambit [~Gambit@pa-67-234-73-7.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20100423 05:38:33-!- Zarel [~Zarel@warzone2100/developer/Zarel] has joined #wesnoth 20100423 05:40:33-!- Glenn [~Kupz@c-68-82-103-22.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 20100423 05:47:30< ancestral> Heh, apparently I won the Civ 5 icon contest… 20100423 05:49:30< Blarumyrran> I noticed that 20100423 05:53:23< Blarumyrran> No really I did, quite randomly too. I think I hadn't been to any civilizations-related site for years, and then for some reason remembered that there was some huge fantasy mod for some civ & I should look it up, and then saw that 20100423 05:53:43< ancestral> I just stopped there today for the first time in like 2 months 20100423 05:55:27< ancestral> Blarumyrran: I have my doubts on how the new game will fare 20100423 05:55:44< ancestral> Everyone seems to have this automatic assumption that it will rock really hard 20100423 05:55:54< Blarumyrran> It looks pretty alright 20100423 05:56:09< Blarumyrran> except that its fields can be halfway under water... 20100423 05:56:16< ancestral> I'm reserving judgment until I see a demo 20100423 05:56:24< Blarumyrran> Like come on, how hard can it be to align them by coast 20100423 06:04:53< VurtualRuler98> I'm dissapointed that it's going to be like wesnoth too much 20100423 06:05:01< VurtualRuler98> oh hey I just said this in #wesnoth brb running 20100423 06:07:04< ancestral> Wow an old screenie here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turn-based_strategy_game 20100423 06:11:54-!- Blueblaze [~nick@adsl-76-202-18-218.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth 20100423 06:27:14-!- hagabaka [~quassel@unaffiliated/hagabaka] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20100423 06:29:16-!- Fother [~Fother_J@pool-96-254-221-178.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20100423 06:31:03-!- Fother [~Fother_J@pool-96-254-221-178.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wesnoth 20100423 06:51:18-!- Zarel [~Zarel@warzone2100/developer/Zarel] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 20100423 06:53:56-!- Zarel [~Zarel@warzone2100/developer/Zarel] has joined #wesnoth 20100423 06:56:21-!- qemqemqem [~quassel@cpe-74-74-155-246.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20100423 07:28:30-!- crimson_penguin [~ben@wesnoth/developer/crimsonpenguin] has quit [Quit: crimson_penguin] 20100423 07:47:35-!- FireFly [~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly] has joined #wesnoth 20100423 07:51:44-!- Necrosporus [~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20100423 07:55:00-!- sevis [~sevis@s55924e6f.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20100423 07:55:49-!- SwiftrTaylor [~Taylor@222-155-82-194.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Quit: DOOOM!!! 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20100423 21:07:07< Kivi> Im just testing first time this 20100423 21:07:53-!- pokhbocee [~pokhbocee@ws33.cs.drexel.edu] has joined #wesnoth 20100423 21:09:08< Kivi> Btw, im Pok from game if i know anybody ^^ 20100423 21:10:40< Aethaeryn> Kivi: are you on 1.8? 20100423 21:10:46< Kivi> Yes. 20100423 21:11:07< Kivi> and mac. 20100423 21:11:11< Aethaeryn> I'm going to suggest something that may seem self-promoting, but this is how I started coding WML too... 20100423 21:11:23< Aethaeryn> Download "Aethaeryn's Maps" 20100423 21:11:31< Aethaeryn> and copy its skeletal framework 20100423 21:11:35< Kivi> application support/wesnoth_1.8/data/editor/maps/map 20100423 21:11:39< Aethaeryn> For a simple map. 20100423 21:11:55< Kivi> download from where? 20100423 21:12:00< Aethaeryn> you can use another mappack if you want for framework, but I can tell you an easy map to copy in my mappack 20100423 21:12:18< Kivi> wesnoth map editor wont do mappack? 20100423 21:12:39< Kivi> i can get your map, no worries 20100423 21:13:00< Aethaeryn> Download from Add-on server 20100423 21:13:02< Aethaeryn> add-on button 20100423 21:13:05< Aethaeryn> in 1.8 it's the 2nd one on the list 20100423 21:13:14< Aethaeryn> then I'll go to the wiki... 20100423 21:13:24< Kivi> okay i have it now 20100423 21:13:30< Aethaeryn> http://wiki.wesnoth.org/EditingWesnoth#Where_is_my_user_data_directory.3F 20100423 21:13:32< Aethaeryn> and I'll pull this up 20100423 21:13:54< Aethaeryn> So what you want to do is you want to find two things... you want to find where your map is, and where the add-ons are stored... 20100423 21:14:09< Kivi> yes both are found 20100423 21:14:22< Kivi> data/addons/Aethaeryns maps 20100423 21:14:30< Aethaeryn> Now what you want to do is you want to base your .cfg file on something simple, standard WML without anything fancy added. 20100423 21:14:32< Kivi> and editor/maps/.. 20100423 21:14:38< Aethaeryn> "Twin Rivers" is the first of my maps that comes to mind 20100423 21:14:44< Aethaeryn> so just copy that .cfg and use it as your basis. 20100423 21:14:45< SpoOkyMagician> meh, colosseum needs to be fixed... getting stderr.txt errors... 20100423 21:14:49< Kivi> copy where? 20100423 21:14:55< Aethaeryn> Create a new folder 20100423 21:15:06< Aethaeryn> and give it a very similar structure to Aethaeryn's Maps. 20100423 21:15:17< Kivi> create folder to addons or editor/maps/ folder? 20100423 21:15:17< Aethaeryn> It might not be necessary, there might be other possible structures, but it's best to learn by copying. 20100423 21:15:21< Aethaeryn> addons. 20100423 21:15:29< Kivi> ok 20100423 21:15:36< Aethaeryn> editor/maps is just a dumping ground of the editor maps... you need to put them in the addons folder if you want to use it for SP or MP 20100423 21:15:56< Aethaeryn> I can tell you how to MP scenario it... SP or MP campaigns have a bit more work to it 20100423 21:16:23< Kivi> ok i do Poks_Maps 20100423 21:16:24< Aethaeryn> For a simple MP map, most of the work is in the map design itself and not the WML 20100423 21:16:46< Kivi> allright - good to know - i think someone should add this information to wesnoth wiki ^^ 20100423 21:16:56< Kivi> i read it through and its not there 20100423 21:17:09< Aethaeryn> well, it would be *really* self-promoting to add it to the wiki :P 20100423 21:17:11< Kivi> yes i just want to test WML 20100423 21:17:22< Kivi> to get the feeling - set up teams and gold 20100423 21:17:29< Aethaeryn> It's kind of "cheating" to tell people to make a mappack by copying someone else's mappack, especially cheating in download count to say their own 20100423 21:17:50< Aethaeryn> but you should be able to get it going if you copied the map .cfg from something like Twin Rivers 20100423 21:18:00< Aethaeryn> you don't need to add anything, just change values for already-existing things. 20100423 21:18:05< Kivi> yes but add wiki the information that you need to create folder to addons 20100423 21:18:10< Aethaeryn> ah 20100423 21:18:11< Kivi> and that editor maps is a dump folder 20100423 21:18:14< Aethaeryn> That might be fairly new... 20100423 21:18:32< Aethaeryn> Before 1.6, it wasn't "addons" it was "campaigns" 20100423 21:18:35< Aethaeryn> Yes, even for mappacks. 20100423 21:18:42< Aethaeryn> How counterintuitive. 20100423 21:18:45< Kivi> yup 20100423 21:21:13< Aethaeryn> Kivi: Did you get it working? 20100423 21:21:35< Kivi> im testing it now, just a sec 20100423 21:21:51< Aethaeryn> oh, I appologize, my mappack has been gaining in complexity... the "masks" folder isn't necessary, and the "dist" folder isn't, either. 20100423 21:22:10< Aethaeryn> Technically, you don't need to put any of the scenarios/maps into subfolders, but it gets *very* messy once you have more than a few. 20100423 21:22:48< Kivi> nope 20100423 21:23:00< Kivi> i have now /maps and /scenarios 20100423 21:23:14< Kivi> and maps i have mapfile.map and scenarios mapfile.cfg 20100423 21:23:25< Kivi> but should i remove from editor/maps ? 20100423 21:24:19< Kivi> i didnt copy anything, i just made Poks_maps and maps/ and scenarios/ 20100423 21:24:20< Kivi> hmm 20100423 21:24:58< Kivi> do i need _info.cfg etc. files? 20100423 21:25:27-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth 20100423 21:25:31< Soliton> no, that is autogenerated. 20100423 21:25:55< Kivi> autogenerated when? 20100423 21:26:07< Soliton> when you download an addon. 20100423 21:26:26< Kivi> but im not downloading im creating it my localcomputer 20100423 21:27:04< Gambit> Then no. 20100423 21:27:22< Gambit> It'll be created on the person's computer when they download it. 20100423 21:28:03< Kivi> allright 20100423 21:28:23< Kivi> do i get any error log if my .cfg file is somehow unreadable? 20100423 21:28:39< Gambit> What OS? 20100423 21:28:49< Gambit> On windows it's in the install directory. It's called stderr.txt. 20100423 21:29:03< Gambit> On linux you have to run wesnoth from the terminal and the error log will be output to said terminal window. 20100423 21:29:06< Kivi> ehm is this darwin 20100423 21:29:09< Kivi> mac os x 20100423 21:29:36< Gambit> I dunno on mac. 20100423 21:29:40< Kivi> sry 20100423 21:29:43< Gambit> Maybe in the install directory like windows? 20100423 21:30:13< Soliton> i think you have to run it in a terminal as well. 20100423 21:30:48< Kivi> probably since there aint files 20100423 21:30:54< Soliton> stderr might go to ~/.xsession-errors otherwise though. 20100423 21:31:35< Kivi> no xsession-errors found home either 20100423 21:31:49< Kivi> .xsessions-errors 20100423 21:31:56< Aethaeryn> yeah... probably the Terminal. 20100423 21:32:03< Aethaeryn> I always run Wesnoth in terminal... 20100423 21:32:10< Aethaeryn> (well, I compile it) 20100423 21:32:51< Kivi> im not too familiar running mac apps at terminal :/ 20100423 21:33:21< Gambit> Are things not working properly or you're just asking for the future? 20100423 21:34:06< Gambit> The in game errors are accurate until you start messing with macros (?). 20100423 21:34:13< Kivi> okay im running wesnoth now from command line 20100423 21:34:18< Gambit> That's when you start to need stderr. 20100423 21:34:21< Kivi> ah 20100423 21:34:31< Kivi> i just have very simple cfg file 20100423 21:34:43< Kivi> 1) i want to rename my map 2) i want to set up teams 20100423 21:34:52< Kivi> but i cannot get it work 20100423 21:35:04< Soliton> http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4591 20100423 21:35:44< Kivi> cool i think i found something... 20100423 21:35:47< Kivi> from terminal log... 20100423 21:35:49< Kivi> 20100423 22:37:01 error config: File not found '~add-ons/Aethaeryns_Maps/scenarios/4p_P?ij?nne.cfg' 20100423 21:36:14< Kivi> hmm should i use ascii characters ^^ 20100423 21:36:19< Kivi> and its wrong folder 20100423 21:37:53-!- Deformative [~joe@bursley-185022.reshall.umich.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20100423 21:38:45< Aethaeryn> then change the part that points to "Aethaeryns_Maps" 20100423 21:38:49< Aethaeryn> and have it point to your folder. 20100423 21:39:04< Aethaeryn> WML is a lot of trial an error. 20100423 21:39:06< Aethaeryn> A lot of it. 20100423 21:39:24< Aethaeryn> It does not require skill so much as persistence. 20100423 21:40:33< Kivi> hm should i upload my map somewhere before add-ons work 20100423 21:40:47< Kivi> since now my map wont show on list at all (i removed it from editor/maps) 20100423 21:41:02< Kivi> but your maps are here 20100423 21:41:18< Kivi> altough i have /add-ons/Poks_Maps folder 20100423 21:41:32< Soliton> do you have a _main.cfg in there? 20100423 21:41:42< Aethaeryn> there is a _main.cfg 20100423 21:41:48< Aethaeryn> you probably didn't change it. 20100423 21:42:11< Aethaeryn> there's lines like: {~add-ons/Aethaeryns_Maps/scenarios/2p_Twin_Rivers.cfg} 20100423 21:42:18< Aethaeryn> youw ant to replace both the folder and the final destination. 20100423 21:42:58< Aethaeryn> brb, switching to wireless so I can use the big monitor upstairs. 20100423 21:43:03-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20100423 21:43:03-!- noy_ [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth 20100423 21:43:03-!- noy_ is now known as noy 20100423 21:43:26-!- Aethaery1 [~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has joined #wesnoth 20100423 21:44:50-!- Aethaeryn [~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20100423 21:44:57-!- Aethaery1 is now known as Aethaeryn 20100423 21:47:25< Kivi> works now, thanks all 20100423 21:49:23< Kivi> its difficult to get ppl join own made maps :) 20100423 21:49:38< Kivi> come test my map if you have time :) 20100423 21:50:38< Kivi> cool now here are players too 20100423 21:52:14-!- [NaL] is now known as [AfK 20100423 21:52:18-!- [AfK is now known as [AfK] 20100423 21:53:49-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20100423 21:54:00-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth 20100423 21:54:33-!- SpoOkyMagician [~chatzilla@74-138-202-211.dhcp.insightbb.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401080539]] 20100423 21:55:21< Kivi> hm this is my older map, somehow i messed up the newer map 20100423 21:55:25< Kivi> but i think i have it 20100423 21:59:20-!- Zarel [~Zarel@warzone2100/developer/Zarel] has joined #wesnoth 20100423 22:08:05-!- Unnheulu [~ieuan@cpc5-pnth2-0-0-cust800.5-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #wesnoth 20100423 22:08:21-!- martin_ [~martin@g227211092.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wesnoth 20100423 22:16:33-!- Soliton [~Soliton@wesnoth/developer/soliton] has quit [Disconnected by services] 20100423 22:16:40-!- Soliton [~Soliton@wesnoth/developer/soliton] has joined #wesnoth 20100423 22:26:12-!- Ken_Oh [~briang@static-71-178-174-220.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20100423 22:29:51-!- Miccoh [~Miccoh@hoasnet-fe1fdd00-57.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Quit: Lähdössä] 20100423 22:38:58-!- eyerouge [~snowdrop@c-ec90e355.247-29-64736c16.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #wesnoth 20100423 22:39:17< Unnheulu> eyerouge: you made the ladder, right? 20100423 22:39:38< eyerouge> Unnheulu: Right. Depending on what you mean with "made". 20100423 22:39:59 * Unnheulu should've known to expect a cryptic answer on #wesnoth :/ 20100423 22:40:07 * eyerouge smiles. 20100423 22:40:48< eyerouge> Unnheulu: It wasn't on purpose, but I can't read minds. An answer seldom becomes better than the question that gave birth to it. ; ) 20100423 22:40:56< Unnheulu> Heh 20100423 22:41:07 * Unnheulu only sees one real meaning in the term made 20100423 22:41:19< Unnheulu> :P 20100423 22:42:18< eyerouge> Unnheulu: Well, if you mean "started" it, then yes. If you mean coded it, then partially - I took a GPL project that was around and improved it, and then put it into a BfW context. 20100423 22:42:25< Unnheulu> Ah, ok 20100423 22:42:45< Unnheulu> I thought I had seen your name in connection with it 20100423 22:43:01< eyerouge> Unnheulu: Ah. K. Yeah, I ran it from the start. 20100423 22:43:35< Kivi> any idea how i can lower the xp rate for a map with wml? 20100423 22:44:55 * Unnheulu finds playing a campaign on his iPod, and then again on the computer strange 20100423 22:45:05< Unnheulu> What seems huge on my iPod is huge on my desktop 20100423 22:47:12-!- Necrosporus [~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20100423 22:47:49-!- Miccoh [~Miccoh@hoasnet-fe1fdd00-57.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #wesnoth 20100423 22:53:26-!- Pentarctagon [~chatzilla@c-24-15-243-148.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth 20100423 22:53:34< Unnheulu> Hi Pentarctagon 20100423 22:55:27< Kivi> Aethaeryn, thanks for your mappack, found all the info i needed 20100423 22:56:12< Pentarctagon> hi 20100423 23:00:21-!- King_Elendil [~King_Elen@75.143.233.138] has joined #wesnoth 20100423 23:01:41< Unnheulu> Hi KE 20100423 23:01:56 * Unnheulu wanted to reply to one of your posts a few days back, but, forgot which one >.< 20100423 23:03:30< King_Elendil> lol 20100423 23:04:01< Kivi> heh... sounds friendly 20100423 23:04:12< Unnheulu> :D 20100423 23:04:28< King_Elendil> was it about mac computers? I seem to have gotten into a few arguments about them recently :/ 20100423 23:04:35< Unnheulu> Erm, possibly 20100423 23:04:50< Unnheulu> Doubt it, 'cause my mac died a year or two ago 20100423 23:05:34-!- Pentarctagon [~chatzilla@c-24-15-243-148.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401080539]] 20100423 23:05:35< King_Elendil> still seeing ash? 20100423 23:05:53< Unnheulu> I could only see it at the horizon before 20100423 23:07:59-!- martin_ [~martin@g227211092.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20100423 23:10:40-!- King_Elendil [~King_Elen@75.143.233.138] has quit [Quit: Got to go, I'm in a hurry so bye.] 20100423 23:12:59-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy] 20100423 23:17:03-!- Unnheulu [~ieuan@cpc5-pnth2-0-0-cust800.5-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 20100423 23:19:37-!- King_Elendil [~King_Elen@75.143.233.138] has joined #wesnoth 20100423 23:21:03< King_Elendil> I'm back :) 20100423 23:27:45-!- harryBer [~harryBer@95-27-51-67.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.1.1] 20100423 23:32:12-!- harryBer [~harryBer@95-27-51-67.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #wesnoth 20100423 23:33:53-!- artisticdude [~9442274a@gateway/web/freenode/x-uijasyojjlhsuzmd] has joined #wesnoth 20100423 23:34:19-!- Johannes13 [~Johannes@unaffiliated/johannes13] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20100423 23:34:25-!- artisticdude [~9442274a@gateway/web/freenode/x-uijasyojjlhsuzmd] has quit [Client Quit] 20100423 23:36:46< Aethaeryn> Kivi: np, just happens to be something I knew about... 20100423 23:36:57< Aethaeryn> My own mappack was based off of a skeleton from elsewhere. 20100423 23:37:22-!- cph [~cph@cph.demon.co.uk] has joined #wesnoth 20100423 23:41:30-!- King_Elendil_ [~King_Elen@75.143.233.138] has joined #wesnoth 20100423 23:41:30-!- King_Elendil [~King_Elen@75.143.233.138] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20100423 23:41:31-!- King_Elendil_ is now known as King_Elendil 20100423 23:46:25-!- Deformative [~joe@2002:43c2:b52f:d:224:8cff:fe67:e2dd] has joined #wesnoth 20100423 23:50:00-!- King_Elendil [~King_Elen@75.143.233.138] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20100423 23:50:39-!- King_Elendil [~King_Elen@75.143.233.138] has joined #wesnoth --- Log closed Sat Apr 24 00:00:05 2010