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20100514 00:00:37< norbert_> _jbx_: how about if I only display the first 2 characters, for example: me... Ro... Na... Da... and fa...
20100514 00:00:56< norbert_> haha
20100514 00:01:12< _jbx_> how about your get the user's permission before you display their name somewhere
20100514 00:01:17< norbert_> that made me laugh out loud, when I looked at your nick on the forum
20100514 00:01:19< Sapient> _jbx_: by the same reasoning, shouldn't names at replays.wesnoth should be anonymized?
20100514 00:01:46< _jbx_> Sapient: probably, but as I said before, raw data is not the same as a neat profile 
20100514 00:02:22< norbert_> I think I have a solution
20100514 00:02:51< norbert_> I will only display the nick when it matches the $_SESSION['nick']
20100514 00:03:04< norbert_> then people can still see if they're in the top 5
20100514 00:03:24< norbert_> _jbx_, is that okay
20100514 00:04:26< _jbx_> norbert_: i really think you should get the users consent before displaying their nick
20100514 00:04:47< _jbx_> playing an observable game is not signing on to have your nick used on another website
20100514 00:06:13< _jbx_> anyway, it's quitting time for me
20100514 00:06:14< norbert_> it's only displayed when they login, so Google and other search engines won't see it
20100514 00:06:16< _jbx_> please think about it
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20100514 00:06:39< norbert_> what do you guys think?
20100514 00:06:46< norbert_> it's on replays.wesnoth.org
20100514 00:07:22< Sapient> I don't see what the big deal is, personally. If it's on replays.wesnoth.org then it's in the public domain already
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20100514 00:08:23< Hethrir> More compiling errors >.<
20100514 00:08:33< Sapient> if people were going to get concerned about it they should have complained when that part was implemented
20100514 00:08:58< shadowmaster> complaints? where? what for?
20100514 00:09:10 * shadowmaster takes his pitchfork and torch
20100514 00:09:17< norbert_> hehe
20100514 00:09:32< Hethrir> If, at launch time, this appears : could not initialize fonts what would that mean?
20100514 00:09:32< Sapient> personally, it did make me slightly uncomfortable when all my replays were automatically uploaded to a website just because they were observable
20100514 00:09:43< Hethrir> What are we breaking out our pitchforks for?
20100514 00:09:53< norbert_> shadowmaster, see http://www.wsrsw.org/addon.php?name=4p%20-%20Isar%27s%20Cross
20100514 00:10:07< norbert_> _jbx_ (jb) complains that it displays a top 5 player list
20100514 00:10:31< shadowmaster> argh, ugly escaped characters in GET fields!
20100514 00:11:05 * shadowmaster throws pitchfork at server!
20100514 00:11:07< norbert_> http://www.wsrsw.org/addon.php?name=4p - Isars%20Cross
20100514 00:11:13< norbert_> try: http://www.wsrsw.org/addon.php?name=4p - Isar's Cross
20100514 00:11:31< norbert_> hum...
20100514 00:11:35< Hethrir> What happened :o
20100514 00:11:38< shadowmaster> don't worry, it works but I tend to prefer uids to ugly escaped names
20100514 00:11:44< norbert_> they set up us the bomb, Hethrir
20100514 00:11:54< Hethrir> >: O
20100514 00:12:00< Hethrir> Hao?
20100514 00:12:14< zookeeper> Sapient, yeah, and if someone complained earlier then they'd likely have been told to just wait and see if anyone complains...
20100514 00:12:18< shadowmaster> your site doesn't have eras, does it?
20100514 00:12:33< shadowmaster> I'm getting curious about this Ageless era thing
20100514 00:12:33< norbert_> shadowmaster: nope
20100514 00:12:59< Sapient> zookeeper: if they complained how could they wait for complaints?
20100514 00:13:54< zookeeper> Sapient, good question.
20100514 00:14:22< Hethrir> What does it mean when filestsytem errors "Trying to open file with empty name."
20100514 00:14:37< Hethrir> *filesystem
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20100514 00:15:29< Hethrir> Can anyone help me?
20100514 00:15:47< Sapient> Hethrir: have you ever watched the Neverending story?
20100514 00:16:00< Hethrir> Yes
20100514 00:16:06< Hethrir> ?
20100514 00:16:11< Sapient> where Bastion must give the Empress a name or the world will be destroyed
20100514 00:16:11< loonycyborg> Hethrir: "Trying to open file with empty name" is nonfatal by itself
20100514 00:16:52< Hethrir> loonycyborg: I have a few others too
20100514 00:17:03< Hethrir> Sapient: Nay that scene is unknown to me
20100514 00:17:40< loonycyborg> 'could not initialize fonts' usually means that it couldn't find the data dir.
20100514 00:17:40< Hethrir> "error config: Could not open file" and "could not initialize fonts"
20100514 00:18:22< Hethrir> It's there
20100514 00:18:59< Hethrir> This is also 1.9
20100514 00:19:10< Ivanovic> have you installed the game?
20100514 00:19:28< Hethrir> I have installed 1.6
20100514 00:19:33< Ivanovic> or are you trying to run it in the ckecout and are *not* supplying a param to the data dir?
20100514 00:19:33< Hethrir> Ohh
20100514 00:19:47< Ivanovic> if you run it in the checkout: ./wesnoth .
20100514 00:19:57< Ivanovic> ./wesnoth --help tells you about this stuff
20100514 00:19:58< Ivanovic> ;)
20100514 00:20:04< Ivanovic> or man wesnoth
20100514 00:20:07< Hethrir> I get it now
20100514 00:20:10< Hethrir> Thank you :D
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20100514 00:21:24< Ivanovic> off to bed now, n8
20100514 00:21:32< Hethrir> Bye
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20100514 00:33:12< Hethrir> Got it to work :D
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20100514 00:34:00< Hethrir> Hey espereon
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20100514 00:35:13< espreon> Hethrir: Hello.
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20100514 00:35:53< Hethrir> I finally got 1.9 to compile and it doesn't seem that awesome ><
20100514 00:36:27< nulloid> why, ehat did you expect?
20100514 00:36:29< nulloid> :D
20100514 00:36:32< nulloid> what*
20100514 00:36:53< Hethrir> Awesomeness coming out of every pore!
20100514 00:37:00 * Espreon rolls his eyes
20100514 00:37:00< nulloid> it is :D
20100514 00:37:05< Hethrir> And ... cool stuff ...
20100514 00:37:08< nulloid> just open your eyes ;)
20100514 00:37:31< nulloid> the game itself is one awesomness... and it's just one :D
20100514 00:37:44< Hethrir> :p
20100514 00:37:50< Hethrir> Yup
20100514 00:37:56< Espreon> Well, 1.9 has some nice things, such as real dashes.
20100514 00:38:12< Hethrir> Real dashes?
20100514 00:38:19< Hethrir> As opposed to fake ones?
20100514 00:38:24< Espreon> Yes.
20100514 00:39:01< Hethrir> Forgive me ... but what is a dash?
20100514 00:39:01< Espreon> Also, we can't forget about all of the new terrain and the updated terrain art.
20100514 00:39:04< Espreon> —
20100514 00:39:13< Hethrir> Movement?
20100514 00:39:16< Espreon> ...
20100514 00:39:22< Hethrir> :(
20100514 00:39:32< nulloid> if thats a dash, htna what is -?
20100514 00:39:33< Espreon> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dash
20100514 00:39:42< Hethrir> Ohhh
20100514 00:39:45< Espreon> nulloid: A hyphen-minus.
20100514 00:39:49< Hethrir> I thought you meant a term
20100514 00:39:51< nulloid> ahh..see :)
20100514 00:39:58< Hethrir> like in-game
20100514 00:40:01< Hethrir> hehe
20100514 00:40:04< Espreon> Jeß.
20100514 00:40:05< nulloid> oh... dashing stab? :D
20100514 00:40:10< Hethrir> ;)
20100514 00:40:14< Espreon> ... real dashes in-game...
20100514 00:40:28< Sapient> the most important thing 1.9 has is "freedom" - the ability to commit changes and break things again ;)
20100514 00:40:31< Hethrir> Like, an in-game term
20100514 00:40:39< nulloid> can you explain it?
20100514 00:40:42< Espreon> Sapient: ...
20100514 00:40:57< nulloid> oh
20100514 00:41:00< nulloid> its a developerversion
20100514 00:41:02< nulloid> get it :D
20100514 00:42:24< nulloid> by the way, what is the difference between a developer version, and a non-developer version (don't inow how it's called)
20100514 00:42:25< nulloid> ?
20100514 00:42:35< Sapient> the word is "stable"
20100514 00:42:39< nulloid> yup :D
20100514 00:42:41< Hethrir> Stabilioty
20100514 00:42:45< Hethrir> *Stability
20100514 00:42:55< nulloid> only?
20100514 00:42:58< Sapient> appropriately enough, yes
20100514 00:43:04< nulloid> see
20100514 00:44:14< Hethrir> Wait ... where is the dash mark on my keyboard?
20100514 00:44:47< nulloid> heheee.... its tricky :D
20100514 00:44:59< Espreon> There is no dash key, sadly.
20100514 00:45:12< Hethrir> Ahh
20100514 00:45:14< Espreon> Luckily, I can emulate a compose key, so... yeahz...
20100514 00:45:22< Hethrir> How do you type it then?
20100514 00:46:09< Espreon> *I* do this: compose + - + - + -
20100514 00:46:32< Hethrir> compose +-+-+-
20100514 00:46:40< Hethrir> Compose?
20100514 00:46:50< nulloid> it is supposed to be a key on the keyboard
20100514 00:46:54< nulloid> as i heard....
20100514 00:46:58< Hethrir> ctrl?
20100514 00:47:01< Espreon> There is a great invention called Wikipedia...
20100514 00:47:03< Espreon> No.
20100514 00:47:18< Espreon> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compose_key
20100514 00:47:23< nulloid> there is a great bless called lazyness :P
20100514 00:47:44< Hethrir> ahh
20100514 00:47:53< Hethrir> Ok
20100514 00:47:58< Hethrir> Back to wesnoth for me
20100514 00:48:07< Hethrir> I'm doing history campaigns ;)
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20100514 00:48:31< nulloid> good luck ;)
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20100514 00:52:07< Sapient> yeah, maybe we need a separate channel for punctuation discussions …
20100514 00:53:17< Sapient> just kidding ‼
20100514 00:58:09 * Sapient ¿ ø®  αм  ι ?
20100514 00:58:38< Espreon> Sapient: Cut it out, or shadowmaster will smite you. ;)
20100514 01:00:10< Espreon> Besides, this is the dream team: æ, œ, þ, ð, ƿ; ȝ
20100514 01:01:16< loonycyborg> What's so notable about them?
20100514 01:01:42< Espreon> They are nice things that we no longer have,
20100514 01:01:45< Espreon> *.
20100514 01:01:50< Espreon> Damn Normans.
20100514 01:02:11< Espreon> ... damn printing presses...
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20100514 01:03:24< loonycyborg> I recognize first two digraphs but the rest are mistery to me :P
20100514 01:03:32< Espreon> ...
20100514 01:03:49< Espreon> First of all, they can be ligatures; not digraphs.
20100514 01:04:10< Espreon> If you see "ae" and "oe", burn your client.
20100514 01:04:23< Espreon> The rest: thorn, eth, wynn, and yogh.
20100514 01:05:18< Espreon> Ƿynn for þe ƿin.
20100514 01:05:29< CIA-10> alink * r42603 /trunk/src/ (font.cpp map_label.cpp): 
20100514 01:05:29< CIA-10> Add Pango support for tooltip (and other floating text but not map labels)
20100514 01:05:29< CIA-10> by moving the slightly hackish protection against pango use for map labels
20100514 01:05:29< CIA-10> into code specific to them.
20100514 01:06:16< loonycyborg> ð reminds IPA symbol for a hateful sound that doesn't exist in my native language :P
20100514 01:07:14< Espreon> Do not diss ðe awesomeness ðat is eð.
20100514 01:08:57< loonycyborg> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digraph says that it has a meaning synonimous with ligature and that's exactly what I meant.
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20100514 01:09:39< Espreon> Yeah, yeah...
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20100514 01:25:37< CIA-10> alink * r42604 /trunk/src/generate_report.cpp: 
20100514 01:25:37< CIA-10> In sidebar tooltips, add more labels describing categories (like "Race: Troll"),
20100514 01:25:37< CIA-10> mainly to help beginners who don't know yet which one is what.
20100514 01:25:37< CIA-10> Also use Pango markup to highlight the main info (like "Race: <b>Troll</b>).
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20100514 01:28:46< kevg> I wanna implement "Make [have_unit] optionaly use full SUF"  from EasyCoding. Could someone help with that thing?
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20100514 01:29:40< alink> kevg: ^ maybe Sapient?
20100514 01:30:21< Sapient> kevg: what are your questions?
20100514 01:30:43< alink> kevg: btw posting here specific question is always better
20100514 01:30:50< kevg> Each team has its own recall list. Should required key apply to all list or to list of specific side?
20100514 01:31:32< Sapient> the standard way to exclude the recall list is to write [not] x,y=recall,recall
20100514 01:32:10< Sapient> although a shorthand form used sometimes is x,y=1-999,1-999
20100514 01:32:16< kevg> So, by default key should check all lists from all teams?
20100514 01:32:44< Sapient> if it is going to be standardized then, yes, might as well make it behave like all other SUF
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20100514 01:33:49< kevg> SUF behaviour explained in WML reference, isn't it?
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20100514 01:34:03< Sapient> indeed it is: wiki/StandardUnitFilter
20100514 01:34:29< Sapient> it already uses the same code, it just doesn't check it against the recall lists
20100514 01:35:14< iElendil> hi salient! 
20100514 01:35:22< Sapient> the most difficult part about this change is checking all existing uses of [have_unit] in trunk
20100514 01:35:32< Sapient> to make sure the change doesn't break anything
20100514 01:35:58< Sapient> iElendil: I am not salient... but thanks for noticing
20100514 01:36:14< iElendil> ugh, spell check made me spell it wrong
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20100514 01:37:05< iElendil> I'm using an iPod, so it kind of auto corrects me
20100514 01:37:37< Sapient> the only thing I like about apple is that I agree about Adobe being the root of great evil
20100514 01:37:56< kevg> Sapinet: it seems that the work is to write two nested loops to check all recall units in all teams, isn't it?
20100514 01:37:57< iElendil> lol
20100514 01:38:36< Sapient> kevg, yes but you must also declare scoped recall unit variables
20100514 01:38:53< Sapient> there are examples of this in game_events.cpp
20100514 01:39:07< Sapient> for example, the store_unit handler
20100514 01:39:42< Sapient> also, I'm not sure why you think "two"
20100514 01:40:00< kevg> One for teams and one for units in team_list
20100514 01:40:16< Sapient> ok, that is correct then
20100514 01:40:51< kevg> Thanks for help.
20100514 01:40:59< Sapient> the scoped WML variable is there to make "$this_unit" work inside the [have_unit] filter
20100514 01:41:32< Sapient> e.g. hitpoints="$this_unit.max_hitpoints"
20100514 01:41:47< Sapient> (not that that makes any sense for units on the recall list, though)
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20100514 02:36:13 * Espreon hates pofix...
20100514 02:36:21< Espreon> Why can't it just be nice to me?
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20100514 02:52:29< shadowmaster> nemocracy
20100514 02:52:46< shadowmaster> because every Wesnoth user has an inner name generator.
20100514 02:59:15< AI0867> shadowmaster: ageless is every era ever made thrown together into one package
20100514 02:59:31< shadowmaster> that doesn't sound s good
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20100514 03:04:51< ancestral> Blecch
20100514 03:05:43 * Espreon isn't fond of the idea either
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20100514 03:21:00< crimson_penguin> sounds awful
20100514 03:39:00< CIA-10> espreon * r42605 /trunk/utils/pofix.py: Fixed conversion rules; commented out the hyphen-minus to Unicode minus conversions for now.
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20100514 09:01:32< zookeeper> Ivanovic, http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=428086#p428086
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20100514 10:26:44< Ivanovic> moin
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20100514 11:00:24< ghyr-easeus> hi
20100514 11:00:26< CIA-10> zookeeper * r42606 /branches/resources/campaigns/The_South_Guard/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Added the high-res versions of scavenger's TSG story images.
20100514 11:01:55< CIA-10> zookeeper * r42607 /trunk/data/campaigns/The_South_Guard/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Added scavenger's new TSG story images.
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20100514 11:07:48< CIA-10> zookeeper * r42608 /trunk/ (changelog players_changelog): Updated changelogs.
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20100514 11:54:21< CIA-10> zookeeper * r42609 /branches/1.8/ (6 files in 3 dirs): Ported the new TSG story art to 1.8 too.
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20100514 13:01:08< timotei21> does anyone who's online know good enough git?
20100514 13:12:51< loonycyborg> Why not you just ask? :P
20100514 13:14:37< timotei21> well, it's a stupid thinig... i installed ubuntu... (bad move) and then updated my git working copy: git svn rebase
20100514 13:14:54< timotei21> in the middle of rebase (or ar the end) it couldn't launch a file: hooks/git-rebase or something like that
20100514 13:14:57< timotei21> after that, everything broke
20100514 13:15:10< timotei21> luckly, I have some of the latest modification in my stash
20100514 13:15:17< timotei21> but when trying to pop them
20100514 13:15:32< timotei21> it tells me again and over again: Auto-merging ... file ...
20100514 13:15:42< timotei21> CONFLICT(content): Merge conflict  in ... file...
20100514 13:15:57< timotei21> I resolve the conflicts, and try to pop again, but the same thing:(
20100514 13:16:02< timotei21> what should I try to do?
20100514 13:16:10< loonycyborg> Maybe try git reset --hard
20100514 13:16:15< timotei21> did that
20100514 13:16:49< timotei21> but no luck
20100514 13:17:22< loonycyborg> git svn fetch?
20100514 13:17:40< timotei21> yes
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20100514 13:18:53< loonycyborg> Anyway, I didn't have much git svn breakages so I don't know much about that.
20100514 13:18:59< timotei21> ok
20100514 13:19:42< loonycyborg> Maybe shadowmaster will know. He used git svn over unstable wireless connection..
20100514 13:20:11< timotei21> :))
20100514 13:20:16< timotei21> ok thanks anyway
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20100514 13:41:11< rigved> i do not think ubuntu was a bad move for me (i 'was' a windows user but now i 'am' a linux user, all thanks to ubuntu:)
20100514 13:42:38< timotei> rigved, well, I don't know what to say. I'm too a win user and Microsoft student partners member... but in sabayon didn't have any "issue"
20100514 13:42:41< timotei> that couldn't fix
20100514 13:43:05< timotei> so for me: sabayon ++ | ubuntu --
20100514 13:43:51< timotei> i tryed 9.10 and 10.04 ... but both had some issues. the last version of ubuntu, lucid, gives me a LOT of error when building wesnoth... I don't have time and the nerves to stay and fix that... since in sabayon works from start:)
20100514 13:45:05< timotei> also, for about 2 hours ago, broke my git copy of wesnoth because of ubuntu ... right now tryin to fix it
20100514 13:45:48< timotei> oh thanks God. my git copy is back again :D
20100514 13:45:59< timotei> hey fendrin 
20100514 13:46:21< fendrin> hi timotei
20100514 13:46:38< fendrin> timotei: Have you solved your eclipse wesnoth c++ issue?
20100514 13:46:56< timotei> well, I'll stick with KDevelop for the moment
20100514 13:47:01< timotei> it works good enough
20100514 13:47:12< timotei> right now managed to fix my git working copy :))
20100514 13:47:18< timotei> so my changes at the plugin are not gone :D
20100514 13:48:02< timotei> I want to let you know, in case you're wondering why I'm not commiting anything yet
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20100514 13:48:35< timotei> I commited the "-preprocess" copy on my local git so I'm waiting for Crab_ to tell me it's ok to commit
20100514 13:51:21< fendrin> timotei: You can send it in at patches.wesnoth.org. That way it may be processed before Crab_ returns.
20100514 13:51:33< timotei> well, did that already
20100514 13:52:32< fendrin> Okay, I will have a look at it later this day. But my c++ isn't that strong either.
20100514 13:52:39< timotei> :P
20100514 13:52:55< rigved> timotel: i did not have any problems with my wesnoth build or svn update, but of course i have not yet got around snv commit as i am still in the initial stages of getting to know the wesnoth code :)
20100514 13:52:56< timotei> well, it's ok to *wait*, that didn't stop me working on the plugin
20100514 13:53:06< timotei> that's why I switched to git instead of svn
20100514 13:57:32< timotei> Soliton, ping me when you're online
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20100514 19:04:21< Crab_> hi
20100514 19:04:49< billynux> hi Crab_ 
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20100514 19:18:56< Crab_> AI0867:  'is there a way to smack some sense into an AI that is convinced unit A is awesome and recruits it every time it gets to recruit from that category?' - no direct way to do that, yet. recruitment is on 'to be rewritten' list. you work around by 
20100514 19:18:58< Crab_> 1) limiting contemporaneous recruits of that unit type
20100514 19:19:50< Crab_> 2) (hack) removing that unit from recruit list, add adding it multiple number of times on the recall list, and tweaking the recall cost till it gets selected rarely enough
20100514 19:20:54< Crab_> but, there are two 'kill switches' which can make AI skip certain units when recruiting - maybe with that 'unit A' present the AI hits one of them and blacklists other units in that category - that can be checked, and, if it is the case, the switches can be set to 'no'
20100514 19:21:48< Crab_> you can also try DKs formula ai recruitment - it's a WML 1-liner, and, if it works on that particular map, it will be better.
20100514 19:22:45< Crab_> wesbot: seen timotei
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20100514 19:23:44< billynux> Crab_, you could generalize the ranking function, eventually it wouldn't be beneficial to recruit such a unit
20100514 19:23:53< billynux> and then work on proposals for that function
20100514 19:25:38< Crab_> billynux: yes, the rewritten recruitment will need to have parametrized ranking
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20100514 19:38:28< timotei> hello Crab_ 
20100514 19:38:30< timotei> welcome back:)
20100514 19:38:33< Crab_> hi, timotei
20100514 19:38:40< Crab_> yes, I'm back
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20100514 19:39:16< timotei> how was the "break"
20100514 19:39:18< timotei> ?
20100514 19:39:23< Crab_> well, good :)
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20100514 19:51:52< timotei> Crab_, I wanted to ask you if it's ok to commit the last revision of that preprocess patch
20100514 19:52:16< timotei> I haven't managed to talk with silene about that little "bug", since he didn't enter for a long time
20100514 19:52:21< timotei> wesbot: seen silene ?
20100514 19:52:21< wesbot> timotei: The person with the nick silene last spoke 25d 12h ago.  25d 10h ago they left with the message: Quit: Leaving.
20100514 19:53:22< Crab_> timotei: I will take a look at it this weekend, 
20100514 19:53:30< timotei> ok, no hurry
20100514 19:53:38< Crab_> ok
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20100514 20:06:58< noy> wesbot: seen norbert?
20100514 20:06:58< wesbot> noy: Sorry, I don't know of norbert.
20100514 20:07:04< noy> wesbot: seen Norbert?
20100514 20:07:04< wesbot> noy: Sorry, I don't know of Norbert.
20100514 20:07:11< alink> wesbot: seen norbert_
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20100514 20:07:40< noy> thanks alink 
20100514 20:07:45< alink> np_
20100514 20:07:51< noy> very funny_
20100514 20:08:25< timotei> we should start appending an underscore to our each line of text?_
20100514 20:08:33< timotei> it would be funny_
20100514 20:08:33< noy> Maybe_
20100514 20:08:38< noy> Absolutely_
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20100514 20:18:45< timotei> here something for laughing: http://www.globalnerdy.com/2010/05/09/new-programming-jargon _
20100514 20:19:16< alink> yes saw it today too, interesting and funny
20100514 20:19:27< timotei> I like the most the yoda conditions
20100514 20:19:42< alink> the Stack Overflow page has more good ones
20100514 20:20:02< timotei> well yeah
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20100514 20:21:09< alink> and the duck one is also for artists, they should try it in the art-forum :)
20100514 20:21:15< timotei> :D
20100514 20:21:32< billynux> I read that article too, the yoda code was great :)
20100514 20:22:09< billynux> there is reason for it... but I still prefer if ( var == 0 )
20100514 20:22:40< timotei> I've seen yoda conditions only when testing for null... in some pieces of code
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20100514 20:27:40< CIA-10> alink * r42610 /trunk/src/display.cpp: 
20100514 20:27:40< CIA-10> Improve tooltips of ellipsis:
20100514 20:27:40< CIA-10> In sidebar, if too much elements with individual tooltip were on the same line,
20100514 20:27:40< CIA-10> then the last ones were hidden by ellipsis with broken/missing tooltips
20100514 20:27:40< CIA-10> (example: unit with few long abilities).
20100514 20:27:40< CIA-10> Now group all hidden tooltips into the one from the last visible element.
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20100514 21:03:31< Soliton> timotei: ping
20100514 21:03:42< timotei> hello Soliton 
20100514 21:04:42< shadowmaster> hi timotei 
20100514 21:04:48< shadowmaster> you needed help with something I believe?
20100514 21:05:43< timotei> Soliton, I wanted you to take a look over that preprocessor patch, but Crab_ is back. 
20100514 21:05:50< timotei> shadowmaster, hello
20100514 21:06:05< timotei> shadowmaster, well, I screwed my git working copy today :))... but managed to fix it back
20100514 21:06:07< timotei> (i think)
20100514 21:06:11< Soliton> ok.
20100514 21:06:39< shadowmaster> timotei: alright
20100514 21:06:59< timotei> Soliton, but you can take a look over it, maybe you have some suggestions
20100514 21:08:07< Soliton> i'm on a horrible connection and don't have much time but maybe tomorrow.
20100514 21:08:44< timotei> it's ok either way
20100514 21:08:55< shadowmaster> I could take a look if you want, after I manage to understand how to search threads in the forums
20100514 21:09:29< timotei> well, let me see one thing, if I told here the problem
20100514 21:10:26< timotei> shadowmaster, yes, it's on today's log, starting from 14.14
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20100514 21:11:07< timotei> I managed to get my working copy ok, with the latest changes, but now, when trying to see the graphical "branches" and stuff, it looks something like this:
20100514 21:12:56< timotei> http://imagebin.org/96861
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20100514 21:13:18< timotei> I have 2 branches: master and list...
20100514 21:13:50< timotei> my worrying is if I "git svn dcommit" to commit all my changes, which branch it will take? maybe there will be conflict between master/ list
20100514 21:13:54< timotei> I want to drop "list"
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20100514 21:14:27< shadowmaster> git svn dcommit uses the current branch.
20100514 21:14:54< shadowmaster> which is listed with an asterisk in `git branch`
20100514 21:15:09< timotei> oh, thanks #:-S
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20100514 21:19:18< timotei> ok, I'm off now
20100514 21:19:20< timotei> good bye everyone
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20100514 22:25:26< CIA-10> alink * r42611 /trunk/src/display.cpp: tweak ellipsis threshold introduced by r42610
20100514 22:27:50< CIA-10> alink * r42612 /trunk/src/generate_report.cpp: 
20100514 22:27:50< CIA-10> Add a space between abilities in sidebar
20100514 22:27:50< CIA-10> (for readability and because now ellipsis works better)
20100514 22:31:28< Aethaeryn> zookeeper: If swamp water is already in the game and the folder, but is barely visible through the reeds, can you guys perhaps add a reedless-swamp in the trunk revisions?
20100514 22:31:34< Aethaeryn> Would add more variety to maps at the very least
20100514 22:32:17< Aethaeryn> no art necessary, no new stats necessary, just have a variation show up without reeds, like it used to do in the map border/frame when it was new anyway
20100514 22:33:16< Aethaeryn> been on my list of "terrains I'd like to see" since 1.3 and pretty much all the others have been added (forested hills for instance)
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20100514 23:18:06< qubodup> hello
20100514 23:18:14< Espreon> Hello.
20100514 23:18:14< qubodup> do you use a bot for posting latest commits to this channel?
20100514 23:18:20< Espreon> Yes.
20100514 23:18:28< qubodup> may I know which service you use for that?
20100514 23:18:31< qubodup> CIA?
20100514 23:18:35< qubodup> .vc
20100514 23:18:47< Espreon> Yeah, cia.vc.
20100514 23:19:22< qubodup> okay, thanks. the admin of a project just asked how to do that and I said CIA but I wasn't sure if that's the way you do it (he said "we need this bot thing, like wesnoth has")
20100514 23:19:50< Espreon> You're welcome.
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