--- Log opened Tue May 18 00:00:12 2010
20100518 00:00:54< alink> which force me to always activate markup and prevent me to have a markup-less mode, but no big deal
20100518 00:06:38< AI0867> are there any cases where a default-constructed vconfig() is meaningful?
20100518 00:07:00< AI0867> because I just fixed a segfault where the null-pointer in it is dereferenced
20100518 00:09:32< CIA-10> ai0867 * r42689 /branches/1.8/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Address bug #16028: crash if a [story][part][if] misses [then] or [else]
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20100518 00:13:19< CIA-10> ai0867 * r42690 /trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 
20100518 00:13:19< CIA-10> Address bug #16028: crash if a [story][part][if] misses [then] or [else]
20100518 00:13:19< CIA-10> Conflicts:
20100518 00:13:19< CIA-10> changelog
20100518 00:13:27< AI0867> guh
20100518 00:13:40< AI0867> why does git store merge conflicts in the commit message?
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20100518 00:14:10< AI0867> wesbot: topic
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20100518 00:36:36< shadowmaster> AI0867: sorry, I don't know about "bug" (whoops, did you mean "feature"?)
20100518 00:37:26< AI0867> which one?
20100518 00:37:40< shadowmaster> you asked shikadibot about a bug, #15445
20100518 00:37:46< AI0867> ah, yes
20100518 00:37:49< AI0867> wesbot was failing me
20100518 00:38:02< shadowmaster> since I haven't got around to fix my hilights list, I also get hilighted by whatever shikadibot gets in public channels where I am
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20100518 00:38:37< shadowmaster> which is a double-sided weapon. I'd get hilighted a lot if someone abused the poor bot.
20100518 00:38:56< shadowmaster> on the other hand, I need to take pills for my awayloguitis more often.
20100518 00:42:35< CIA-10> alink * r42691 /trunk/src/generate_report.cpp: 
20100518 00:42:35< CIA-10> Add more info in terrain def% tooltip:
20100518 00:42:35< CIA-10> Also show terrain archetypes (when needed) and try do detail defense calulation
20100518 00:42:35< CIA-10> by showing def% of each archetype and adding a "min" or "max" indication.
20100518 00:42:35< CIA-10> (the fact that order is important is less obvious, but this is never used.)
20100518 00:44:58< alink> pfff typical of WML, you need to handle all the cases but there is only one instance of def_alias (in UtBS)
20100518 00:45:33< alink> which also the only place when the "max" is needed
20100518 00:45:41< alink> s/when/where
20100518 00:48:08< alink> ah mvt_alias use "max" more, so if i keep the same system (for consistency) then it will be less wasteful 
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20100518 01:00:37< Espreon> alink: When I meant tooltips, I meant the tooltips in the --new-widgets titlescreen.
20100518 01:01:35< alink> aah "--new-widgets" ? sry I didn't work on that, better ask mordante
20100518 01:01:46< CIA-10> espreon * r42692 /trunk/data/hardwired/tips.cfg: More italicizing...
20100518 01:02:19< shadowmaster> you know that it is supposed to be experimental and not ready for production
20100518 01:02:33< alink> should be easy since it's all pango there. I am even surprised that it's not activated yet
20100518 01:04:03< alink> wait, i am not sure that it has already its own tooltip system
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20100518 01:04:28< Espreon> Meh, 'tis not that important right now.
20100518 01:05:54< alink> btw i just found a bug when using pango markup in (old) tooltip, it count the markups length for word-wrapping
20100518 01:06:13< alink> I fix that first.
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20100518 01:14:04< CIA-10> espreon * r42693 /trunk/utils/ (9 files in 3 dirs): Ran umcpropfix.
20100518 01:15:32< CIA-10> alink * r42694 /trunk/src/tooltips.cpp: 
20100518 01:15:32< CIA-10> Increase a little tooltip's opacity (from 128 to 160).
20100518 01:15:32< CIA-10> Because they contains more text these days and it's a bit hard to read when
20100518 01:15:32< CIA-10> there is other underlying lines (as in the sidepanel)
20100518 01:17:10< alink> ^optimal value probably depends of screen and eyes, but better go in the readability direction ;)
20100518 01:18:09< CIA-10> espreon * r42695 /branches/resources/ (6 files in 3 dirs): Ran umcpropfix.
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20100518 02:02:07< CIA-10> ai0867 * r42696 /trunk/src/unit_types.cpp: Convert unit modifications to use unicode minus rather than the hyphen the WML passes
20100518 02:03:01< AI0867> Espreon: ^
20100518 02:03:16< Espreon> Thank you.
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20100518 04:58:06< CIA-10> espreon * r42697 /trunk/utils/java/ (75 files in 29 dirs): Ran umcpropfix and dos2unix on the Java stuff.
20100518 04:58:55< CIA-10> espreon * r42698 /trunk/doc/manual/images/ (15 files in 5 dirs): Ran umcpropfix.
20100518 05:04:33< CIA-10> espreon * r42699 /trunk/data/campaigns/ (90 files in 12 dirs): Removed gratuitous properties.
20100518 05:07:38< CIA-10> espreon * r42700 /trunk/data/ (46 files in 4 dirs): Removed more gratuitous properties.
20100518 05:13:44< CIA-10> espreon * r42701 /trunk/data/ (42 files in 8 dirs): Removed more gratuitous properties.
20100518 05:16:05< CIA-10> espreon * r42702 /trunk/data/ (174 files in 22 dirs): Removed more gratuitous properties.
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20100518 05:39:45< Aethaeryn> Espreon: What's the Java stuff for?
20100518 05:39:52< Aethaeryn> Someone making an Android port?
20100518 05:40:20< Valkier> please please please please...
20100518 05:40:41< Aethaeryn> Valkier: Maybe I can do it next summer for GSOC if no one else is trying it.
20100518 05:40:52< Valkier> Do it now!
20100518 05:40:53< Aethaeryn> I know there's a thing that makes you not have to rewrite most of an app.
20100518 05:40:57< Aethaeryn> Mozilla is using it.
20100518 05:41:00< ancestral> Are all the libraries ported?
20100518 05:41:07< ancestral> You should talk to Kyle
20100518 05:41:16< ancestral> Probably re-use some of his code?
20100518 05:41:16< Aethaeryn> a native development kit
20100518 05:41:24< Aethaeryn> ancestral: I disagree with the iPhone's approach.
20100518 05:41:47< Aethaeryn> As a MP UMC maker, my #1 priority would be getting the add-on server working.
20100518 05:41:53< Aethaeryn> Not using it as incentive to get people to upgrade :P
20100518 05:42:13< ancestral> Well…
20100518 05:42:16< Aethaeryn> ancestral: Also, the code is heavily modified 1.6
20100518 05:42:20< ancestral> You could work on that
20100518 05:42:21< ancestral> And then
20100518 05:42:24< ancestral> Backport
20100518 05:42:26< Aethaeryn> If I ported it, it would be 1.11
20100518 05:42:33< ancestral> I mean, why not share the efforts?
20100518 05:42:33< Aethaeryn> Since it would be next summer.
20100518 05:42:58< Aethaeryn> Well, the reason I said perhaps for GSOC next summer is because I'd intend to backport as much as possible into trunk...
20100518 05:43:08< ancestral> If Kyle can contribute a lot of his code maybe you can contribute a lot of your code and make both projects better and done faster
20100518 05:43:14< Aethaeryn> And the best part about GSOC is that's $5,000 right there, so if I have to release my app for free I will.
20100518 05:43:24< Aethaeryn> Anyway, I'll have to try it next summer.
20100518 05:43:26< ancestral> Aethaeryn: Pretty much your call
20100518 05:43:38< Aethaeryn> ancestral: It's a lot easier to install unauthorized apps on Android Marketplace.
20100518 05:43:51< Aethaeryn> And it's a lot less controlled.
20100518 05:44:16< Aethaeryn> Though I suppose a possible compromise would be to pay $5 for a version that accesses the MP/add-on servers... 
20100518 05:44:23< Aethaeryn> Or however much the thing costs.
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20100518 05:45:51< Aethaeryn> But, tbh, the best way to do it would probably to have the whole app be free, and just have Google pay the porter in GSOC
20100518 05:45:57< Aethaeryn> Google's money, after all ;)
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20100518 06:53:01< timotei> morning
20100518 06:56:23< rigved> timotel: good morning
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20100518 10:13:19< Ivanovic> moin
20100518 10:13:26< timotei> hello
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20100518 10:34:10< zookeeper> we're likely going to make a change which would naturally give bats 60% defense of all villages (instead of the current intended 40%), and going to rebalance that by giving them a musthave trait (like fearless on WC's) which makes them always have 40% defense on villages. any ideas about what such a trait could be called?
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20100518 10:36:24< timotei> god... java is so weird
20100518 10:38:37< Valkier> Timid?
20100518 10:38:44< Soliton> zookeeper: urbanophobia!
20100518 10:39:09< Valkier> Claustraphobic
20100518 10:39:26< timotei> well, trying to launch the editor... from java, but wesnoth doesn't recognize the spaces
20100518 10:39:29< zookeeper> uh.
20100518 10:39:32< timotei> it takes: "-e  " as a whole
20100518 10:39:36< timotei> not "-e"
20100518 10:39:38< Valkier> wanderlust!
20100518 10:39:46< timotei> but when launching from command line, it start ok
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20100518 10:48:01< Valkier> None of those any good eh?
20100518 10:49:11< zookeeper> yeah
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20100518 11:03:30< Valkier> Back to photoshop with me then.
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20100518 11:50:45< CIA-10> ivanovic * r42703 /trunk/ (17 files in 15 dirs): updated Chinese (Simplified) and Japanese translation
20100518 11:50:58< CIA-10> ivanovic * r42704 /branches/1.8/ (15 files in 14 dirs): updated Chinese (Simplified) and Japanese translation
20100518 11:53:37< Crab_> timotei: figured out the 'launch from command line' issue ?
20100518 11:55:39< Rhonda> wesbot: topic
20100518 11:55:41-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 104 bugs, 281 feature requests, 17 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
20100518 11:55:59< Rhonda> … if only someone could have told me that wesbot is a bit disfunctional.
20100518 11:56:10< Rhonda> s/is/was/
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20100518 11:59:19< Ivanovic> Rhonda: looks like we have not noticed it...
20100518 11:59:30< Rhonda> \o/
20100518 11:59:33< Ivanovic> Rhonda: and you should probably ask your question from the -de chan again in here
20100518 11:59:38< Rhonda> I can break stuff and noone notices!
20100518 11:59:54< Rhonda> That question doesn't matter that much to me anymore, to be honest. :P
20100518 12:00:53< Ivanovic> :)
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20100518 13:54:50< Espreon> Silly Aethaeryn, the Java stuff is for Eclipse.
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20100518 15:31:04< CIA-10> alink * r42705 /trunk/src/ (5 files): 
20100518 15:31:04< CIA-10> revert r42681
20100518 15:31:04< CIA-10> (hack need too much little details to fix compared to a clean rewrite)
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20100518 17:52:47< CIA-10> alink * r42706 /trunk/src/ (display.cpp map_label.cpp map_label.hpp): Remove redundant scrolling functions for map labels
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20100518 17:57:39< Espreon> Aethaeryn: No, the Java stuff is for Eclipse.
20100518 17:58:11< timotei> Espreon: thanks for the fixes:D
20100518 17:59:36< Espreon> You are welcome.
20100518 18:00:38< Aethaeryn> Boo!
20100518 18:01:06< Aethaeryn> Someone took my templates-for-emacs idea and used a different program before the semester ended. :S
20100518 18:01:09< Aethaeryn> :P
20100518 18:01:33< Espreon> Yeah, yeah, noöne cares.
20100518 18:02:50< Espreon> timotei... has won, and... stuff.
20100518 18:03:04 * Espreon really needs to stay away from IRC during school.
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20100518 18:03:37< Espreon> ... so... I shall leave.
20100518 18:05:15< Valkier> Espreon... uses... a... lot........ of.... dots......................
20100518 18:05:45< Aethaeryn> Apparently that's how they did it in Old English before the French or something.
20100518 18:06:01< Valkier> I believe it.
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20100518 18:12:56< kevg> Hello.
20100518 18:13:09< Valkier> Howdy!
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20100518 18:30:12< zookeeper> thespaceinvader, my owaecs are the same ones as the previous ones posted on that page. no idea about horse sizes.
20100518 18:30:48< Valkier> So what would it take to guarantee the Kalifa becoming mainline?
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20100518 18:30:50< thespaceinvader> ah right no worries
20100518 18:30:54< Valkier> Cause they look awesome.
20100518 18:30:59< thespaceinvader> i think that they are right zookeeper 
20100518 18:31:09< thespaceinvader> valkier: successful balancing
20100518 18:31:11< thespaceinvader> mainly
20100518 18:31:13< thespaceinvader> i think
20100518 18:31:30< thespaceinvader> zookeeper: i'll check though hold on
20100518 18:31:30< Valkier> Damn.
20100518 18:31:49< Valkier> Cause I'd start doing portraits right now if it would make a difference. :-P
20100518 18:35:26< thespaceinvader> zookeeper: the destrier for the level three could wo with being replaced with the one from this post: http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/download/file.php?id=32075 that the grand knight is on, but otherwise i think they are OK
20100518 18:40:27< zookeeper> thespaceinvader, mmkay, i guess i can do that
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20100518 19:42:56< CIA-10> alink * r42707 /trunk/src/ (16 files in 3 dirs): 
20100518 19:42:56< CIA-10> Add more flexibility to clip_rect_setter:
20100518 19:42:56< CIA-10> - Allow to disable previous clipping
20100518 19:42:56< CIA-10> - Add a flag for easier toggling
20100518 19:45:56< CIA-10> zookeeper * r42708 /trunk/ (22 files in 3 dirs): Added new (unanimated) sprites for Owaec, renamed the image files so they match the unit type names and changed the lvl3's sword to greatsword.
20100518 19:47:01< zookeeper> thespaceinvader, i also made the lvl2 horse match the lvl2 in that image you linked to a bit more.
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20100518 20:01:22< thespaceinvader> zookeeper: cool
20100518 20:07:00< Ivanovic> boucman, billynux, crab_, fendrin, Gabba, mordante, timotei, Upthorn / Upth: so how is GSoC progressing?
20100518 20:07:07< Ivanovic> any problems?
20100518 20:07:15< timotei> Ivanovic: no thanks. Is going good:)
20100518 20:07:34< billynux> hi Ivanovic ... it's going very good, I'm really enjoying it
20100518 20:07:42< Ivanovic> that is: don't forget that the "official" coding time starts next week
20100518 20:08:14< billynux> true... but I've done quite a bit by now, and still have a long road ahead
20100518 20:08:44< Ivanovic> noone will complain if you already started working, just be aware that you really *should* start working on the 24th if you have not done so yet
20100518 20:09:01< Ivanovic> and if something does not work nicely regarding the "bonding time", don't hesitate to shout
20100518 20:09:11< Ivanovic> (or was this "speak up"???)
20100518 20:09:12< Ivanovic> ;)
20100518 20:09:25< billynux> ;)
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20100518 20:18:23< timotei> Crab_: didn't manage to get that working
20100518 20:25:39< CIA-10> zookeeper * r42709 /trunk/data/campaigns/Eastern_Invasion/_main.cfg: Added A-Red to the EI credits for the new Owaec sprites.
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20100518 20:28:24< fendrin> Ivanovic: To be honest I have spent to few time on reviewing timotei's code and giving him advise :-) But crab filled that hole. I promise to be more around in the near future.
20100518 20:29:30< timotei> hello fendrin
20100518 20:30:20< fendrin> hi timotei
20100518 20:30:54< timotei> do you have some few time (like 10-20) mins to look into a current "issue"?
20100518 20:32:06< fendrin> yes, I do but in 15 minutes.
20100518 20:32:12< timotei> ok;)
20100518 20:32:16< timotei> take your time
20100518 20:38:27< fendrin> timotei: Okay, now I have 10 minutes, then eat. After eat more time.
20100518 20:39:03< timotei> well, let's describe the problem first
20100518 20:39:23< timotei> I've made a menu item for launch wesnoth editor. launching the game from java: wesnoth -e
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20100518 20:39:56< mordante> servus
20100518 20:40:01< fendrin> hi mordante
20100518 20:40:06< timotei> my argument list for wesnoth is a template, and there gets replaced some token(file to open, working dir, etc)
20100518 20:40:08< mordante> hi fendrin 
20100518 20:40:18< timotei> and the final args string ends up: [-e  ]
20100518 20:40:33< timotei> wesnoth take the [-e  ] as a whole (including that spaces)
20100518 20:40:45< timotei> but if launching from command line, and adding extra spaces, everything is ok
20100518 20:40:50< timotei> it skips the spaces
20100518 20:41:53< timotei> does java use some "different" spaces that I'm not aware of?
20100518 20:42:06< mordante> Ivanovic, all going well with GSoC for me
20100518 20:42:43< fendrin> timotei: Well, it can be a tabulator only. I can't think of another token that looks like whitespace but behaves different.
20100518 20:42:52< billynux> hi mordante 
20100518 20:43:02< timotei> I was looking at the (int) of the space, and it's ok '32' which is ascii space
20100518 20:43:08< mordante> hi billynux 
20100518 20:43:09< timotei> but, maybe my PC has something
20100518 20:43:30< billynux> mordante: did you hink over the timeouts question?
20100518 20:44:22< mordante> billynux, not yet just got home and finished dinner
20100518 20:44:40< billynux> ok
20100518 20:44:45< Espreon> Aethaeryn: LOL, hwæt?
20100518 20:44:53< fendrin> timotei: What happens when you call another application from your java code? 
20100518 20:45:05< Espreon> Valkier: Their called ellipses, BTW.
20100518 20:45:07< timotei> well, didn't test that yet
20100518 20:45:08< Espreon> *They're
20100518 20:45:10< Espreon> AAAH!
20100518 20:45:37< billynux> mordante: one more for you: if I want to provide general-purpose timers... should I export the same functionality as the one described in http://www.boost.org/doc/libs/1_37_0/doc/html/boost_asio/example/timers/time_t_timer.cpp ?
20100518 20:45:54< Espreon> Aethaeryn: In the good ol' days, we didn't use this stupid alphabet.
20100518 20:46:22< billynux> mordante: such as ... ana::timer t(); t.expires_from_now( secs ); t.async_wait( handler ); ?
20100518 20:46:59< fendrin> timotei: What exactly is the problem with wesnoth? Does it tell you that it doesn't now "mapname"?
20100518 20:47:09< fendrin> s/now/know
20100518 20:47:17< timotei> no... wesnoth will "don't know" the command
20100518 20:47:29< timotei> it takes the command as: "-e  "<- 2 spaces in there
20100518 20:47:33< timotei> rather than "-e"
20100518 20:48:15< mordante> billynux, not sure whether it's needed, maybe only t.wait(timeout, handler); (and always async)
20100518 20:48:54< billynux> ok
20100518 20:49:23< billynux> for that... i prefer ana::wait( t_o, h )
20100518 20:49:36< CIA-10> zookeeper * r42710 /trunk/data/campaigns/Eastern_Invasion/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Fixed bad centering of Owaec's sprites and fixed an animation glitch.
20100518 20:49:38< mordante> and maybe the timeout always in ms
20100518 20:49:48< billynux> float seconds?
20100518 20:49:58< mordante> milliseconds
20100518 20:50:19< billynux> well... 0.1 is 100 ms
20100518 20:50:33< mordante> I know ;-)
20100518 20:50:58< mordante> but ms feels more natural to me, SDL also uses it
20100518 20:51:25< billynux> wait ( ana::seconds(1) , ...); wait( ana::milliseconds(100), ...) ?
20100518 20:51:59< mordante> a rather always have ms, it's rather trivial for somebody to count in them
20100518 20:52:25< mordante> s/a/I/
20100518 20:53:31< billynux> yes... KISS 
20100518 20:53:36< mordante> regarding the ana::wait instead of t.wait that's also an option
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20100518 20:56:38< fendrin> timotei: Maybe eclipse does add " " around the arguments so they are interpreted as array from the shell.
20100518 20:57:41< timotei> fendrin: should I commit my current changes? so you can test if it works for you? 
20100518 20:57:43< mordante> billynux, not sure about where to add the timeout, but I also wonder how we want to do the timeout
20100518 20:57:55< fendrin> timotei: yes please do so.
20100518 20:57:58< timotei> ok
20100518 20:58:20< mordante> a fixed timeout or a base timeout + extra timeout * message size
20100518 20:59:17< mordante> eg on the server when joining a game you get the entire savegame, which might be big and on a slow dailup it might take a few minutes
20100518 20:59:20< billynux> mordante: Yes, options abound, you can set something like a ms per kilobyte even (with a min of N ms)
20100518 21:00:13< mordante> and I think that might be wise also for addons which range from several hundert KB to several MBs
20100518 21:00:35< mordante> also wonder can we see in asio how much is already transmitted?
20100518 21:01:00< billynux> mordante: so, the best thing for me is getting a good grip on use cases... and what would be desired regarding functionality
20100518 21:01:01< mordante> if so it would be easy to say, if no data transmitted for X seconds the timeout is triggered
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20100518 21:01:26< billynux> mordante: I'm not sure you can have that
20100518 21:01:34< mordante> me neither ;-)
20100518 21:01:50< mordante> but I think that would be the most ideal case (if possible)
20100518 21:02:27< billynux> mm... a byte per second would probably kill that :)
20100518 21:02:49< billynux> reminds me of a slow DOS attack that was devastating
20100518 21:04:38< mordante> yeah but not sure how much DOS protection we want
20100518 21:05:05< mordante> and else me might need to make the timeout a policy of some kind to allow all scenarios
20100518 21:05:25< mordante> but I rather have one policy for now
20100518 21:05:51< billynux> mordante: I propose: 1. Generic timeouts ( ana::wait( duration, handler) ) 2. Policy setting for send operations ( ana::set_timeout_policy( PolicyType, size_t) ) 
20100518 21:09:48< billynux> mordante: so... ana::set_timeout_policy( ana::timeout_from_size, X); // ->X ms per kilobyte sent, timeout after that
20100518 21:10:39< billynux> mordante: or.. ana::set_timeout_policy( ana::fixed_time, X); // assume X ms on each send operation (not too good)
20100518 21:10:43< mordante> billynux, I'm looking at the asio documentation http://www.boost.org/doc/libs/1_36_0/doc/html/boost_asio/reference/async_write_at.html
20100518 21:11:00< fendrin> timotei: Strange thing. When I try to import the eclipse plugin as an "existing eclipse project" it is recognized and shown but the radio button is greyed out.
20100518 21:11:13< billynux> mordante: and finally ana::set_timeout_policy( ana::none ); //without timeouts
20100518 21:11:19< mordante> this way you might be able to send the data in chunks of for example 100 kb and set the timeout for these chunks
20100518 21:11:37< mordante> (of course that would bump the dependency of boost :-( )
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20100518 21:12:15< fendrin> timotei: okay, got it.
20100518 21:13:21< mordante> but I think you can also do it with the older boost versions, with transfer_at_least as condition
20100518 21:14:07< mordante> billynux, maybe it's a good idea to investigate how easy it's to send in chunks and put a timeout on a chunk
20100518 21:14:24< mordante> then you can set the chunk size and timeout as parameter
20100518 21:14:46< mordante> timeout/chunk
20100518 21:14:53< billynux> you can write_some and read_some, but I don't think thats a good idea
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20100518 21:15:09< mordante> why not?
20100518 21:15:22< billynux> there is unnecessary processing done
20100518 21:15:40< billynux> in the chunk-done / send-next-chunk
20100518 21:16:11< billynux> network operations can be async., but not the handling of events
20100518 21:16:40< billynux> so that handler (that needs to send the next chunk) can be behind many others(handlers)
20100518 21:17:16< mordante> ok
20100518 21:19:11< mordante> in that case we could go with your policies
20100518 21:19:30< fendrin> timotei: Still around?
20100518 21:20:10< timotei> sorry, I was afk
20100518 21:20:20< timotei> commiting right now
20100518 21:21:12< timotei> trying to fix first some "susspicious patch line"
20100518 21:22:46< CIA-10> timotei * r42711 /trunk/utils/java/eclipse_plugin/ (8 files in 4 dirs): added menu for launching the wesnoth editor
20100518 21:22:56< timotei> fendrin: ok, you can check it out
20100518 21:23:12< timotei> you have to set first the wesnoth executable (Preferences -> Wesnoth UMC plugin)
20100518 21:24:39< fendrin> timotei: It reports errors.
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20100518 21:24:59< fendrin> Description	Resource	Path	Location	Type
20100518 21:25:00< timotei> fendrin: errors in what?
20100518 21:25:01< fendrin> Bundle 'org.wesnoth.wml.ide.generator' cannot be resolved	MANIFEST.MF	/Wesnoth Eclipse Plugin/META-INF	line 15	Plug-in Problem
20100518 21:25:11< timotei> Try refresh/cleanup the projects
20100518 21:25:43< timotei> btw, did you checkout the other 3 projects (besides wesnoth eclipse plugin? )
20100518 21:25:52< timotei> fendrin: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/EclipsePlugin_setup
20100518 21:26:12< fendrin> timotei: No, I just imported it from trunk.
20100518 21:27:20< timotei> well, the plugin has 3 more projects it depends on (those will handle the editor part - syntax highlight, autocompletion, everything that has to do with DSL)
20100518 21:29:22< fendrin> timotei: no software site fount at http...
20100518 21:29:56< timotei> fendrin: my bad: http://download.itemis.com/updates/releases
20100518 21:33:58< fendrin> timotei: 
20100518 21:34:00< fendrin> Description	Resource	Path	Location	Type
20100518 21:34:01< fendrin> Bundle 'org.eclipse.emf.mwe.core' cannot be resolved	MANIFEST.MF	/org.wesnoth.wml.ide.generator/META-INF	line 13	Plug-in Problem
20100518 21:34:15< timotei> what version of Eclipse you use?
20100518 21:34:26< fendrin> 3.5.2
20100518 21:35:06< timotei> hmmm
20100518 21:35:49< timotei> I think I should have installed a fresh eclipse copy and try to get *that* working
20100518 21:36:31< fendrin> timotei: I have installed the wrong stuff...
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20100518 21:39:50< timotei> well, ok, updated the guide with the right packages to install - maybe eclipse won't resolve very nice the dependencies
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20100518 21:42:37< fendrin> timotei: Okay, configured the path to the wesnoth binary.
20100518 21:42:42< fendrin> timotei: What now?
20100518 21:42:57< timotei> there is a menu "Wesnoth"
20100518 21:43:03< timotei> near those: file, edit, etc
20100518 21:43:13< timotei> after you launch the plugin
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20100518 21:45:38< timotei> and, in the first, original eclipse window, in the console, there should be output from launching the editor
20100518 21:48:02< fendrin> timotei: io exceptions. Permissions denied in /home/fabi/wesnoth_develop/trunk
20100518 21:49:10< timotei> well, either wesnoth is not executable, or current user isn't owner of wesnoth executable
20100518 21:49:45< fendrin> timotei: My binary is named wesnoth-debug
20100518 21:50:21< timotei> well, did you choose that on the executable path, or you selected a folder?
20100518 21:51:42< fendrin> I did both
20100518 21:51:56< fendrin> Thought the folder should point to the place where data lives.
20100518 21:52:33< timotei> well, currently I use just the wesnoth executable thing... so you can choose whatever executable you want
20100518 21:53:02< fendrin> Well, If I don't set the path it tells me to do so.
20100518 21:53:15< fendrin> Please set the wesnoth's executable path first.
20100518 21:54:12< timotei> could you pastebine the whole log? (including the error?)
20100518 21:54:20< timotei> s/pastebine/pastebin
20100518 21:55:45< fendrin> timotei: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/0q1X9dxt
20100518 21:56:03< timotei> - Unknown paste ID, it may have expired or been deleted!
20100518 21:58:00< fendrin> timotei: The pastebin isn't working for you?
20100518 21:58:05< timotei> no
20100518 21:58:12< timotei> it tells me that error
20100518 21:58:22< timotei> since there is an administrative message:  THE SITE IS IN READ-ONLY MODE AS WE ARE CURRENTLY MOVING HOSTER, SOME PASTES MIGHT BE MISSING FOR A FEW HOURS
20100518 21:58:24< mordante> I'm off night
20100518 21:58:26< fendrin> It's working fine from here.
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20100518 22:00:15< timotei> ok, managed to get it working from a proxifier
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20100518 22:00:48< fendrin> timotei: Sorry, I have to leave now. I have much time tommorrow.
20100518 22:00:57< timotei> fendrin: it's ok. me too:)
20100518 22:01:01< timotei> thanks for your time
20100518 22:01:11< fendrin> timotei: Will be around at midday, gmt.
20100518 22:01:23< timotei> ok
20100518 22:01:24< timotei> good night
20100518 22:05:28< CIA-10> timotei * r42712 /trunk/utils/java/eclipse_plugin/src/wesnoth_eclipse_plugin/TemplateProvider.java: disable debug info for now
20100518 22:06:04< timotei> Crab_: please check if the editor launching is working for you, and leave me a message, I'll read the log.
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20100518 22:28:33< Ivanovic> esr: https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?16041
20100518 22:30:02< esr> Ivanovic: I can fix that.
20100518 22:33:04< CIA-10> esr * r42713 /trunk/data/campaigns/Northern_Rebirth/maps/infested_caves.map: A map tweak.
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20100518 22:48:20< CIA-10> esr * r42714 /trunk/data/tools/wmllint: Address bug #16041: error in wmllint tag replacement.
20100518 22:52:44< CIA-10> espreon * r42715 /trunk/utils/java/eclipse_plugin/src/wesnoth_eclipse_plugin/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Ran umcpropfix.
20100518 22:58:32< CIA-10> espreon * r42716 /trunk/attic/castle-transitions.cfg: Removed gratuitous properties.
20100518 23:04:04< Gallaecio> I'm working in the Galician translation for "The Legend of Wesmere"
20100518 23:04:20< Gallaecio> There's a string which says: "Early finish bonus: Defeat Wrulf"
20100518 23:04:41< Gallaecio> Does anyony know what is that supposed to mean?
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20100518 23:26:55< zookeeper> maybe i'll have better luck this time...
20100518 23:26:56< zookeeper> we're likely going to make a change which would naturally give bats 60% defense of all villages (instead of the current intended 40%), and going to rebalance that by giving them a musthave trait (like fearless on WC's) which makes them always have 40% defense on villages. any ideas about what such a trait could be called?
20100518 23:27:34< zookeeper> i don't think any of urbanophobia, claustaphobic or wanderlust are good enough ;)
20100518 23:30:13< Valkier> So cruel.
20100518 23:31:31< Rhonda> homophobic? Usually villages are crowded.
20100518 23:31:46< Valkier> lol
20100518 23:31:49< Rhonda> erm, bleah, wrong term
20100518 23:31:56< Valkier> Hah!
20100518 23:32:09< Rhonda> misanthropy rather should that had been :)
20100518 23:32:58< zookeeper> good correction!
20100518 23:33:25< zookeeper> although homophobic would do too
20100518 23:33:30< zookeeper> because if it's a village...
20100518 23:33:34< zookeeper> there's gonna be village people!
20100518 23:33:38< Valkier> lol
20100518 23:34:00< Valkier> Anti-social maybe?
20100518 23:34:22< Rhonda> loner, lone wolf, maverick?
20100518 23:34:55< Valkier> Black sheep!
20100518 23:35:39< zookeeper> Rhonda, but they're bats
20100518 23:35:53< zookeeper> basically nothing like that fits bats :| urgh
20100518 23:36:00< Valkier> Scree-mish?
20100518 23:36:26< Valkier> It's like squeemish but with screeching! Like bats do!
20100518 23:36:45< Rhonda> zookeeper: lone bat, then? :P
20100518 23:36:48< zookeeper> uh-huh
20100518 23:36:54< Gallaecio> Ivanovic: I got it, it refers to bonifications you get during the scenario (as opposed to those you get one you finish it). In this case, you get 50 gold right after you kill that orc.
20100518 23:37:03< Gallaecio> *once
20100518 23:37:23< Valkier> Bird of a feather
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20100518 23:57:05< alink> zookeeper: seems simpler to consider as if they have 40% def, but the new trait give them a bonus everywhere except in village
20100518 23:57:24< alink> maybe "rural" or "camouflage" or something like that
20100518 23:58:00< Valkier> Feral!
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20100518 23:58:05< alink> khaki?
20100518 23:58:11< Valkier> kinky?
20100518 23:58:28< alink> feral seems good
20100518 23:59:35< Valkier> I think he is hiding now.
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