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20100524 02:11:47< CIA-87> ai0867 * r42794 /branches/1.8/ (data/scenario-test.cfg src/unit.cpp): Allow multi-argument image path functions to work in the unit overlays list
20100524 02:11:48< AI0867> Elvish_Pillager: ^
20100524 02:12:06< Elvish_Pillager> :)
20100524 02:26:34< CIA-87> ai0867 * r42795 /trunk/src/game_events.cpp: Remove delay from [move_units_fake]
20100524 02:26:38< CIA-87> ai0867 * r42796 /trunk/src/SConscript: Prevent some files from being linked in twice. Changes to scons only
20100524 02:26:49< CIA-87> ai0867 * r42797 /trunk/ (data/scenario-test.cfg src/unit.cpp): 
20100524 02:26:49< CIA-87> Allow multi-argument image path functions to work in the unit overlays list
20100524 02:26:49< CIA-87> Ported from 1.8
20100524 02:26:51< CIA-87> ai0867 * r42798 /trunk/src/Makefile.am: Remove a duplicate entry for time_of_day.cpp from Makefile.am. CMakeLists.txt appears to be clean
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20100524 03:46:09< CIA-87> ai0867 * r42799 /trunk/src/ (6 files in 3 dirs): Rename utils::paranthetical_split() to utils::parenthetical_split(). Patch by Espreon
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20100524 04:11:15< CIA-87> espreon * r42800 /trunk/data/core/about.cfg: Updated my info in about.cfg.
20100524 04:25:04< CIA-87> ai0867 * r42801 /trunk/data/lua/wml-tags.lua: Fix a nil dereference in the [unit_worth] tag (due to looking up 'null' as a unit type)
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20100524 05:25:17< CIA-87> ai0867 * r42803 /trunk/data/tools/wesnoth/wmlparser2.py: Use superclass constructor
20100524 05:25:22< CIA-87> ai0867 * r42802 /trunk/data/tools/wesnoth/wmlparser2.py: Fix TagNode.get_all()
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20100524 05:59:02< CIA-87> espreon * r42804 /trunk/ (10 files): Removed gratuitous properties.
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20100524 08:17:13< CIA-87> silene * r42805 /trunk/src/game_events.cpp: Fixed segfault when using [time_area].
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20100524 08:21:14< Valkier> Someone mind linking me to the page with the trunk?
20100524 08:21:49< CIA-87> silene * r42806 /branches/1.8/src/game_events.cpp: 
20100524 08:21:49< CIA-87> Fixed segfault when using [time_area].
20100524 08:21:49< CIA-87> Backported from trunk r42805.
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20100524 09:11:32< timotei> Valkier: svn trunk?
20100524 09:11:42< timotei> Valkier: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth/
20100524 09:11:50< timotei> the folder, trunk
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20100524 09:36:24< Ivanovic> moin
20100524 09:43:57< timotei> hello
20100524 09:44:18< Valkier> Thank you
20100524 09:44:52< timotei> Valkier: you're welcome
20100524 09:44:58< timotei> wesbot: trunk ?
20100524 09:45:08< timotei> wesbot: vsm ?
20100524 09:45:12< timotei> wesbot: svn ?
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20100524 10:01:49< CIA-87> silene * r42807 /trunk/src/ (82 files in 14 dirs): (log message trimmed)
20100524 10:01:49< CIA-87> Modified WML attributes so that they are stored with smaller effective types when they are not translatable.
20100524 10:01:49< CIA-87> This patch considerably reduces the memory footprint of WML and speeds it up.
20100524 10:01:49< CIA-87> It should not change any WML behavior, except for a few corner cases detailled below:
20100524 10:01:49< CIA-87> - "off" is no longer a synonym for "no" (it wasn't used anyway),
20100524 10:01:50< CIA-87> - _"42" is no longer an integer,
20100524 10:01:50< CIA-87> - untranslatable "true" and "false" are stored as booleans, hence displayed as "yes" and "no",
20100524 10:01:51< CIA-87> silene * r42808 /trunk/src/gui/widgets/settings.cpp: Avoided costly roundtrip through strings.
20100524 10:01:53< CIA-87> silene * r42809 /trunk/src/gui/auxiliary/widget_definition/panel.cpp: Avoided costly roundtrip through strings.
20100524 10:01:56< CIA-87> silene * r42810 /trunk/src/gui/auxiliary/widget_definition/vertical_scrollbar.cpp: Avoided costly roundtrip through strings.
20100524 10:01:59< CIA-87> silene * r42811 /trunk/src/gui/auxiliary/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Avoided costly roundtrip through strings.
20100524 10:02:01< CIA-87> silene * r42812 /trunk/src/unit.cpp: Avoided costly roundtrip through strings.
20100524 10:02:04< CIA-87> silene * r42813 /trunk/src/playsingle_controller.cpp: Avoided costly roundtrip through strings.
20100524 10:02:08< CIA-87> silene * r42814 /trunk/src/gui/dialogs/game_load.cpp: Avoided costly roundtrip through strings.
20100524 10:02:09< CIA-87> silene * r42815 /trunk/src/unit_abilities.cpp: Avoided costly roundtrip through strings.
20100524 10:02:12< CIA-87> silene * r42816 /trunk/src/unit_types.cpp: Avoided costly roundtrip through strings.
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20100524 10:13:39< Ivanovic> fendrin: assigned this one to you: https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?16062
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20100524 10:32:13< mordante> servus
20100524 10:34:02< timotei21> hello mordante
20100524 10:34:06< mordante> hi timotei21 
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20100524 10:42:58< CIA-87> silene * r42817 /trunk/src/mp_game_settings.cpp: Avoided costly roundtrip through strings.
20100524 10:43:01< CIA-87> silene * r42818 /trunk/src/gamestatus.cpp: Avoided costly roundtrip through strings.
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20100524 10:53:33< mordante> Espreon, I just see your request for Wescamp, too late, I already ran it ;-)
20100524 10:55:26< fendrin> Ivanovic: Thank you.
20100524 10:55:37< fendrin> hi mordante
20100524 10:55:44< mordante> hi fendrin 
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20100524 11:22:20< timotei> what a weather
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20100524 11:31:52< CIA-87> upthorn * r42819 /trunk/projectfiles/VC9/ (wesnoth.vcproj wesnothd.vcproj): 
20100524 11:31:52< CIA-87> Some changes to the manually maintained vc9 project files for convenience of
20100524 11:31:52< CIA-87> compilation. Note: removing _DEBUG from the preprocessor definitions of the
20100524 11:31:52< CIA-87> "Debug (fast)" configuration results in an immediate segfault on my machine.
20100524 11:39:51< timotei> Upthorn: why don't you try dual booting a linux?
20100524 11:40:00< timotei> and use KDevelop or eclipse
20100524 11:40:03< timotei> it's far better
20100524 11:40:21< Upthorn> Linux and I don't get along well
20100524 11:40:40< timotei> tbh, me neither (didn't)
20100524 11:40:44< Upthorn> from a user interface standpoint
20100524 11:41:10< timotei> well, KDe is very eye candy if you want it to be (for me an OS with a lot of eye candy is good )
20100524 11:41:23< timotei> or you want a cleaner one?
20100524 11:42:43< Upthorn> I prefer cleaner GUIs, but my last experience with linux (using kubuntu), was that things set up properly, and the GUI configuration utilities didn't function properly
20100524 11:42:53< Upthorn> err
20100524 11:43:04< Upthorn> things set up improperly
20100524 11:43:08< CIA-87> silene * r42820 /trunk/src/menu_events.cpp: Ensured that units are removed from recall list before being recalled. (Fix for bug #16072.)
20100524 11:43:38< timotei> well.. *buntu was a very bad experience for me, until tried linux mint (with gnome) or sabayon(kde)
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20100524 11:44:07< timotei> the thing is, now I can't use my PC without a Yakuake style bash :D
20100524 11:44:15< Upthorn> I could not make samba share with windows systems, or read from existing windows shares.
20100524 11:44:31< timotei> and VS kept taking 3-4 seconds on saving game.cpp :(
20100524 11:44:45< timotei> that was the bad problem that made me move while developing for wesnoth on linux
20100524 11:44:58< timotei> maybe when I'll finish the exams period, I'll reinstall windows+VS
20100524 11:45:06< Upthorn> sh being aliased to dash instead of bash also caused issues when I tried to use a compile and install script for the linux version of gens
20100524 11:45:40< timotei> dash? lol
20100524 11:46:09< Upthorn> of course I didn't know what the cause was until after I'd freed the linux partition back for windows use
20100524 11:46:25< timotei> oh
20100524 11:47:21< Upthorn> I hear that it has improved a lot since feisty fawn, but I'm still hesitant.
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20100524 11:48:22< Upthorn> I don't think I will successfully be able to switch to linux if I can't operate it day-to-day without need for a command line
20100524 11:48:23< timotei> anyway, lucky me, I didn't encounter any major problems on linux, and haven't started my windows for about 1 week or so:D
20100524 11:48:40< Upthorn> It's not that I mind using a command line
20100524 11:48:50< timotei> yes, somethimes is awkward
20100524 11:49:12< Upthorn> it's that I don't have time to memorize a 10 page book of options for every application I need to use
20100524 11:49:23< CIA-87> silene * r42821 /branches/1.8/src/menu_events.cpp: 
20100524 11:49:23< CIA-87> Ensured that units are removed from recall list before being recalled. (Fix for bug #16072.)
20100524 11:49:23< CIA-87> Backported from trunk r42820.
20100524 11:55:16-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 113 bugs, 279 feature requests, 18 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
20100524 12:11:48< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: is if just me or do we lately get rather many errors from windows user with "runtime error (..) this application has requested the runtime to terminate it in an unusual way.(..)"?
20100524 12:17:46< loonycyborg> Ivanovic: AFAICT most of those where either new lobby or the unicode filename issues.
20100524 12:18:24< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: IIRC the new lobby normally were asserts, not those error messages that don't say anything
20100524 12:19:14< Ivanovic> https://gna.org/file/wesnoth-bug-crash.jpg?file_id=9203
20100524 12:19:20< Ivanovic> from https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?16070
20100524 12:21:01< Ivanovic> ilor_, mordante: can you look at this one? it includes a patch! https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?16059
20100524 12:22:08< loonycyborg> Ivanovic: Unfortunately that error doesn't say much by itself. Not even sure whether it was an exception or assert :P
20100524 12:22:29< Ivanovic> normally asserts look different regarding what i have seen
20100524 12:22:46< Ivanovic> there you tend to get a listing what the assertion that failed was
20100524 12:26:09< loonycyborg> Not really sure about that. That may be even different depending on windows version..
20100524 12:26:20< Ivanovic> okay, might be
20100524 12:27:47< timotei> loonycyborg, Ivanovic: afair, it depends whether the current system has or not installed a debugger (visual studio, mingw, etc)
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20100524 12:50:43< CIA-87> loonycyborg * r42822 /trunk/src/server/forum_user_handler.cpp: Fixed compile with forum_user_handler enabled. Was broken by r42807
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20100524 13:14:14< mordante> Ivanovic, posted remarks
20100524 13:14:44< Ivanovic> thanks
20100524 13:15:26< Ivanovic> mordante: is this fix also applyable to the game and player list?
20100524 13:16:01< Ivanovic> esr: https://gna.org/bugs/?16035
20100524 13:16:20< mordante> Ivanovic, not sure for player list, should be for the game list
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20100524 13:16:47< mordante> for 1.9 I want to do this function in the container itself
20100524 13:16:47< Ivanovic> IIRC the jumping in the game list was one of the main outstanding issues (together with the player list)
20100524 13:17:02< Ivanovic> so if the fix was in, it would be a *huge* improvement
20100524 13:17:56< mordante> jup, only the patch will probably fail if the window gets a new layout, which is the biggest problem for 1.8
20100524 13:18:23< Ivanovic> AI0867, cib0, cjhopman_, Espreon, esr, fendrin, ilor_, loonycyborg, mordante, Rhonda, shadowmaster, silene, Soliton, Upthorn, zookeeper, everyone else who cares about this: what do you think of tagging 1.8.2 on saturday?
20100524 13:18:49< mordante> did we have a lot of improvements?
20100524 13:18:56< esr> Ivanovic: No blockers I know of.
20100524 13:19:24< Ivanovic> hmm, is this one an easy coding task? https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?16034
20100524 13:19:47< zookeeper> Ivanovic, i'm a bit worried about http://gna.org/bugs/?15950
20100524 13:19:50< zookeeper> but not much else, i think
20100524 13:20:00< Ivanovic> esr: you maintain NR, right?
20100524 13:20:03< Ivanovic> esr: https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?16021
20100524 13:20:10< zookeeper> also
20100524 13:20:26< zookeeper> (nevermind)
20100524 13:20:36< esr> Ivanovic: I'm working on that one.
20100524 13:21:30< Ivanovic> silene: any idea what do about this one? https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?16020
20100524 13:21:53< Ivanovic> or, since it is some gui error: mordante, can you check it?
20100524 13:22:23< Ivanovic> unit id related: https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?16005
20100524 13:22:32< Ivanovic> though this one might be for yogihh, not sure at all...
20100524 13:24:07< Ivanovic> loonycyborg (or any other windows user): can you check if you are able to reproduce this one? https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?15961
20100524 13:25:15< Ivanovic> could someone check the patch in this report? https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?15936
20100524 13:26:51< CIA-87> esr * r42823 /trunk/data/tools/wmllint: Address bug #16035: wmllint missing stones -> petrifies.
20100524 13:27:11< mordante> Ivanovic, looks like invalid utf8 in a string
20100524 13:27:19< Ivanovic> mordante: yeah
20100524 13:27:39< Ivanovic> mordante: the problem is that the default editor on windows is basically not able to produce correct utf8...
20100524 13:27:41< Ivanovic> ;)
20100524 13:29:00< loonycyborg> Ivanovic: No crash for me with 1.8.0 on winxp in virtualbox.
20100524 13:29:09< loonycyborg> That is with MP local game
20100524 13:29:25< Gambit> Ivanovic: 15962 doesn't do anything on Windows Vista
20100524 13:29:31< Gambit> *15961
20100524 13:29:33< Gambit> Sorry
20100524 13:29:46< mordante> Ivanovic, the user is on a mac ;-)
20100524 13:29:50< Ivanovic> okay, either "works for me" or "need info"
20100524 13:30:12< Ivanovic> mordante: uhm, the user *reporting* the bug is, the one writing the scenario, too?
20100524 13:30:32< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: your decission what to make of the report
20100524 13:30:42< Gambit> Tried in game, in lobby, observing a game. ctrl-: isn't a hot-hey and ctrl-o is "load game" which shouldn't do anything in the context the user reported.
20100524 13:31:28< Gambit> oh loonycyborg had already done it :$
20100524 13:31:28< mordante> Ivanovic, ? quite sure it's mac (com.apple.launchd.peruser.502)
20100524 13:31:35 * Gambit goes away
20100524 13:32:43< Ivanovic> esr: where possible please do not forget to port to branches/1.8
20100524 13:32:44< Ivanovic> ;)
20100524 13:33:48< Ivanovic> mordante: yes, like i said, the one who had the crash is using a mac
20100524 13:34:04< Ivanovic> mordante: but the scenario itself might have this broken utf8 string (since it is some usermade content)
20100524 13:34:17< Ivanovic> and if the scenario was created on windows this might be the source of the issue
20100524 13:35:28< mordante> ah ok
20100524 14:02:00< Espreon> mordante: I see... thanks.
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20100524 14:08:05< CIA-87> silene * r42824 /trunk/src/multiplayer_connect.cpp: Fixed overwriting of side data when starting a mp game with preset map parameters.
20100524 14:09:13< mordante> Espreon, you're welcome
20100524 14:14:17< shadowmaster> when did freim become terrain art director?
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20100524 14:25:46< shadowmaster> Ivanovic: is r42823 by esr the only commit that seems to be missing a backport?
20100524 14:27:13< Ivanovic> shadowmaster: i think freim became terrain art director around 0.8.x
20100524 14:27:32< Ivanovic> r42823 is at least one revision that i know about that still needs backporting
20100524 14:28:42< shadowmaster> Ivanovic: good, I know about freim 
20100524 14:28:49< shadowmaster> no wait, I mean I am asking about his forum title
20100524 14:29:01< shadowmaster> wtf the ACP doesn't show rank assignments is beyond me
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20100524 14:33:00< shadowmaster> I'm pretty sure I didn't assign it to him, and nobody else could have before since it didn't exist
20100524 14:33:20< shadowmaster> I guess it's time for a feature request to phpBB though
20100524 14:34:09< Ivanovic> no idea who assigned this when, wasn't me
20100524 14:38:07< shadowmaster> Also, I vote for locking all RNG-related threads in Users' in sight unless there's technical evidence provided in the first post to back up the OP's claims.
20100524 14:38:25< shadowmaster> (and not forgetting about doing this)
20100524 14:38:41< Ivanovic> sounds reasonable to me
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20100524 14:48:27< freim> shadowmaster: jetryl gave me and eleazar that title on his own initiative
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20100524 15:32:44< shadowmaster> freim: k
20100524 15:33:44< shadowmaster> hopefully you won't disappear too? :P
20100524 15:33:58< shadowmaster> (weak reference to the ever-cursed "Lord of Music" title)
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20100524 16:09:08< CIA-87> ai0867 * r42825 /trunk/src/text.cpp: Trim invalid utf-8 before passing it to pango. This crashed pango on OS X
20100524 16:11:07< shadowmaster> AI0867: backporT?
20100524 16:11:14< shadowmaster> with lowercase t, too.
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20100524 16:19:33< CIA-87> eleazar * r42826 /trunk/data/core/images/terrain/bridge/ (23 files): color harmonization for wooden bridge.
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20100524 16:32:33< AI0867> shadowmaster: yeah, I've moved to my other laptop now
20100524 16:38:24< CIA-87> silene * r42827 /branches/1.8/ (data/advanced_preferences.cfg src/game_display.cpp): 
20100524 16:38:25< CIA-87> Added advanced preference for disabling notifications. (Fix for bug #15701.)
20100524 16:38:25< CIA-87> Backported from trunk r41842.
20100524 16:38:25< CIA-87> silene * r42828 /branches/1.8/src/ (menu_events.cpp scripting/lua.cpp scripting/lua.hpp): 
20100524 16:38:26< CIA-87> Added an 'unsafe_lua' internal command for loading the 'package' package.
20100524 16:38:26< CIA-87> Backported from trunk r42766.
20100524 16:38:27< CIA-87> silene * r42829 /branches/1.8/changelog: Mentioned previous two patches in the changelog.
20100524 16:41:30< CIA-87> ai0867 * r42830 /branches/1.8/ (changelog src/text.cpp): 
20100524 16:41:30< CIA-87> Trim invalid utf-8 before passing it to pango. This crashed pango on OS X
20100524 16:41:30< CIA-87> Backported from trunk r42825
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20100524 16:43:22< CIA-87> ai0867 * r42831 /trunk/changelog: Add r42825 to changelog
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20100524 16:51:37< zookeeper> hi bob, jb
20100524 16:52:31< Bob_The_Mighty> hi zookeeper
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20100524 16:52:54< _jbx_> hello zookeeper 
20100524 16:53:15< Bob_The_Mighty> good work with BoL, by the way
20100524 16:54:32< _jbx_> speaking of BoL, I noticed player one cannot be unstoned?
20100524 16:55:08< _jbx_> but even when stoned, he can teleport and cast re-animate (or rebirth, forgot the name)
20100524 16:56:22< zookeeper> i've never noticed being unable to unstone anyone
20100524 16:56:32< Bob_The_Mighty> that happened to me.
20100524 16:57:08< zookeeper> well, it might have been due to some of the missing stone->petrify changes that were in 0.5.8
20100524 16:57:14< _jbx_> zookeeper: it was only the player one slot
20100524 16:57:14< Bob_The_Mighty> i felt like i was in a vegatative state, unable to move, but still conscious
20100524 16:57:24< _jbx_> zookeeper: player 2,3,4 worked fine
20100524 16:57:36< _jbx_> Bob_The_Mighty: ha
20100524 16:57:58< zookeeper> but being able to cast spells when stoned is something i'll fix right away...anyway, if you want to talk about it much more, then #wesnoth-umc-dev is a better place ;)
20100524 16:59:48< Gambit> Didn't the old lobby allow games with more than 9 sides?
20100524 16:59:53< Gambit> I thought the limit was 9 _players_
20100524 17:03:32< Gambit> Because earlier today I got blocked from the lobby from starting a game with 8 players and 3 leaderless sides.
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20100524 17:06:57< Gambit> lobby/server
20100524 17:07:51< Gambit> I'm not sure which is the right word actually considering that lobby has come to mean the new interface thinger.
20100524 17:10:29< shadowmaster> wesbot: bug 16035
20100524 17:10:30< wesbot> Bug #16035  Assigned to: Eric S. Raymond <esr>  Status: Fixed  Priority: 5 - Normal
20100524 17:10:33< wesbot> Summary: wmllint missing stones -> petrifies
20100524 17:10:35< wesbot> Original submission: The version of wmllint distributed with wesnoth 1.8.1 doe
20100524 17:10:38< wesbot> s not updates [stones] to [petrifies] (inside a [specials] block of an [attack])
20100524 17:10:41< wesbot> URL: https://gna.org/bugs/?16035
20100524 17:10:57 * shadowmaster scratches head
20100524 17:11:06< esr> ?
20100524 17:11:06< shadowmaster> ah well, I have the base URL for the correct bug
20100524 17:11:54< shadowmaster> esr: 16041 was reported against wesnoth 1.8.1 yet you don't seem to have backported the commit that fixed it
20100524 17:12:05< shadowmaster> I'm going to backport that and the one for 16035 anyway.
20100524 17:12:12< esr> OK.
20100524 17:12:30< shadowmaster> in the future, don't forget branches/1.8 !
20100524 17:12:35< shadowmaster> (when applicable)
20100524 17:12:39< esr> Noted.
20100524 17:18:05< CIA-87> shadowmaster * r42832 /branches/1.8/data/tools/wmllint: 
20100524 17:18:06< CIA-87> Address bug #16041: error in wmllint tag replacement.
20100524 17:18:06< CIA-87> (Backported from trunk, r42714 by esr.)
20100524 17:18:08< CIA-87> shadowmaster * r42833 /branches/1.8/data/tools/wmllint: 
20100524 17:18:09< CIA-87> Address bug #16035: wmllint missing stones -> petrifies.
20100524 17:18:09< CIA-87> (Backported from trunk, r42823 by esr.)
20100524 17:18:15< CIA-87> shadowmaster * r42834 /branches/1.8/data/tools/wmllint: 
20100524 17:18:15< CIA-87> Fix a little indentation mistake during my manual backport of r42714
20100524 17:18:15< CIA-87> (silly Python syntax...)
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20100524 17:36:42< ilor_> Ivanovic: no opinion from me on 1.8.2 since I haven't done anything really, too much stuff to do with work and uni
20100524 17:42:00< boucman> hey all
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20100524 17:52:03< Ivanovic> boucman: what do you think regarding 1.8.2 eg on saturday?
20100524 17:52:43< boucman> Ivanovic: my main current works are documenting the terrain macros and mentoring gabba, so no problem on my side
20100524 17:53:02< Ivanovic> okay, due to r42827 it will have to be next monday anyway...
20100524 17:53:36< boucman> wesbot: r42827
20100524 17:53:37< shadowmaster> string thawing
20100524 17:53:41< boucman> ok
20100524 17:53:55< shadowmaster> it's log <revision>, btw
20100524 17:54:55< boucman> yup, I usually get it right ;)
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20100524 18:00:30-!- Ivanovic changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 1.8.2 planned on 31st May, stringfreeze for branches/1.8! | 112 bugs, 278 feature requests, 18 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
20100524 18:03:26< CIA-87> ivanovic * r42835 /branches/1.8/ (1341 files in 27 dirs): 
20100524 18:03:27< CIA-87> pot-update (string changes in the wesnoth textdomain)
20100524 18:03:27< CIA-87> regenerated doc files
20100524 18:03:31< elias> timotei: why do .plain files retain #textdomain instructions?
20100524 18:03:46< timotei> elias: it's the .. way the preprocessor works
20100524 18:03:57< elias> ah, ok
20100524 18:04:03< timotei> it's and "unprocessed config", but the raw read from the file
20100524 18:04:12< timotei> better ask silene about it
20100524 18:04:29< elias> it just seems there's always a <254>textdomain instruction anyway
20100524 18:04:38< elias> so i can just ignore them
20100524 18:04:40< timotei> <254?
20100524 18:04:45< timotei> it's 367 afaik
20100524 18:04:54< timotei> or 376 :P
20100524 18:04:54< elias> oh
20100524 18:05:00< elias> it's a unicode symbol?
20100524 18:05:02< timotei> the: \367 character
20100524 18:05:03< elias> i assumed it's a byte
20100524 18:05:04< timotei> yes
20100524 18:05:05< elias> i see
20100524 18:05:07< elias> good to know :)
20100524 18:05:09< timotei> it's: þ
20100524 18:05:24< elias> so all .plain files are valid utf8 as well?
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20100524 18:05:31< timotei> I think so..
20100524 18:05:31< elias> that makes things easy then
20100524 18:05:42< elias> hm, wait
20100524 18:05:44< timotei> mhh
20100524 18:05:50< elias> what if a text string contains þ
20100524 18:05:51< timotei> no, 367 it's ouside 2^8
20100524 18:06:05< timotei> so maybe it's utf16:-??
20100524 18:06:16< timotei> well...
20100524 18:06:40< elias> hm, so maybe it is a single byte value after all
20100524 18:06:54< timotei> could be.. don't really know the encoding issues :D
20100524 18:08:04< timotei> you're playing with the -preprocess command, right?:D
20100524 18:08:15< elias> yes
20100524 18:08:32< elias> there's some bugs in wmlunits caused by the pure-python parser, so trying to use --preprocess instead
20100524 18:08:59< elias> (wmlunits being the script which creates units.wesnoth.org)
20100524 18:09:08< timotei> nice
20100524 18:09:31< timotei> elias: you asked for a xml version of the outputed config, right?
20100524 18:10:03< elias> yes, but i abandoned that idea
20100524 18:10:21< timotei> ok
20100524 18:11:06< elias> it would only be an advantage if i could use a stock xml parser... but the line numbers and textdomain in .plain files are important
20100524 18:11:29< timotei> elias: yes... wmllint will/need to be written to take advantage of that
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20100524 18:28:25< billynux> hi
20100524 18:37:29< timotei> hi by
20100524 18:37:33< timotei> hi billynux
20100524 18:37:47< billynux> hi timotei 
20100524 18:38:10< billynux> timotei: how is your project going?
20100524 18:38:26< timotei> billynux: fine, thanks :)
20100524 18:38:31< timotei> how 'bout yours?
20100524 18:38:49< timotei> it's been so silent this days
20100524 18:39:02< timotei> compared to the "pre-soc" period:)
20100524 18:39:07< billynux> true...
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20100524 18:39:24< billynux> mine is going ok... I'm a bit concerned about deadlines
20100524 18:39:54< timotei> billynux: what deadlines? those on the proposal timeline?
20100524 18:40:08< billynux> yes
20100524 18:40:29< billynux> not that I'm behind... its just that I always wish I was one step ahead :P
20100524 18:40:38< billynux> ping mordante 
20100524 18:41:14< timotei> billynux: yes, it's nice to be one step ahead:D
20100524 18:41:25< silene> elias,timotei: it's 255-1, and it's an illegal byte for any legal unicode sequence; so the output of the preprocessor is neither valid utf8 nor conflicting with utf8 strings in the input
20100524 18:42:04< timotei> silene: well... I've seen in the code you cout<<"\367" or something like that
20100524 18:42:12< elias> silene: thanks, that's just what I assumed
20100524 18:42:42< timotei> fendrin: do I have to create a changelog, to track my workings? or is enough the commit log?
20100524 18:43:01< elias> timotei: maybe octal
20100524 18:43:08< silene> timotei: 376 is octal for 254
20100524 18:43:13< timotei> oh, yes, ok
20100524 18:44:22< timotei> billynux: what you use to create tex documents? commandline+editor? or dedicated IDE?
20100524 18:45:54< silene> elias: anyway, you can ignore everything from 254 to the next \n; 254 behaves the same as #, except that it doesn't increase the line number
20100524 18:46:17< elias> yes, works nicely
20100524 18:46:30< elias> silene: so it was you who added the --preprocess output?
20100524 18:46:31< billynux> timotei, mostly Kile, but any text editor suits me just fine
20100524 18:46:41< silene> elias: no, but i wrote the preprocessor
20100524 18:46:42< timotei> billynux: ok
20100524 18:46:46< elias> ah, heh
20100524 18:47:12< timotei> elias: I added the command line to create those .cfg and .plain files
20100524 18:47:30< silene> (that being said, 5 years ago, there was a --preprocess option and i was the author of it)
20100524 18:47:31< timotei> but yeah, silene did the hard/good job:D
20100524 18:47:39< timotei> silene: really?
20100524 18:47:43 * billynux thinks the learning curve for emacs is a little steep :( (and the fact that it hangs my X isn't helping)
20100524 18:47:59< timotei> silene: didn't know that
20100524 18:48:04< elias> well, i rally like --preprocess... i can parse the complete WML in like a second now with Python
20100524 18:48:09< elias> before it took.... longer :P
20100524 18:48:55< silene> timotei: yes, not sure why it was removed later
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20100524 19:02:56< fendrin> timotei: You have at least to add your major changes into changelog in wesnoth's toplevel.
20100524 19:03:25< fendrin> timotei: I would like to have a changelog that lives in the plugin folder as well.
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20100524 19:12:03< timotei> fendrin: wesnoth's toplevel meaning? the "changelog" file?
20100524 19:16:24< fendrin> yes
20100524 19:16:51< timotei> ok
20100524 19:26:16< mordante> billynux, pong
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20100524 19:26:48< billynux> hi mordante :)
20100524 19:26:57< mordante> hi billynux 
20100524 19:27:00< billynux> seen my latest updates on async-net-api repo/
20100524 19:27:39< billynux> I'm finishing doxygen documentation of ana.hpp, and dealing with a couple of leaks (reported by valgrind) on the server-side app
20100524 19:29:07< mordante> no not yet, was very busy last week, I hope I'll have more time next week
20100524 19:30:57< billynux> mordante: no problem, I hope you are too. By next I assume you mean not *this* one.
20100524 19:31:43< mordante> oh yes it's Monday today... I hope to have more time this week ;-)
20100524 19:32:07< billynux> :)
20100524 19:35:21< mordante> billynux, how did things go for you last week?
20100524 19:37:49< mordante> billynux, when you write a member function in a header it will automatically be an inline function
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20100524 19:39:45< billynux> mordante, pretty good. Timers are working ok, but I believe there is a memleak there (now checking it with valgrind)
20100524 19:40:31< billynux> mordante, I'm a bit concerned with the timeline. By the end of this week I'm due a finished API, the LaTeX doc. and doxygen doc. of ana.hpp (done)
20100524 19:43:39< mordante> billynux, ok good to know you made nice progress. You fear one week is too little for what's left of the API stuff?
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20100524 19:45:46< [Relic]> Hello :)
20100524 19:46:12< billynux> mordante: fear, yes, a little. But that is why originally this deadline is about the API and *not* the implementation.
20100524 19:47:58< mordante> hi [Relic] 
20100524 19:48:36< mordante> billynux, true
20100524 19:48:44< [Relic]> :)
20100524 19:48:50< mordante> but you also already did quite a bit of the implementation
20100524 19:49:02< mordante> btw do you want to copy it to wesnoth or rewrite it?
20100524 19:49:33< billynux> mordante: rewrite it? -> I can start working from wesnoth's repository now
20100524 19:50:38< mordante> billynux, I was wondering, not sure whether this was a prototype or the real McCoy ;-)
20100524 19:51:17< mordante> it would be nice to move to the wesnoth repo :-)
20100524 19:51:43< billynux> Lets say it evolved from the prototype :)
20100524 19:53:12< billynux> mordante: There are a *lot* of things I would like to have done to really post it out there as a 1.0... tests, autotools + scons + cmake, severe mem. checking, good doc, etc...
20100524 19:53:31< billynux> s/to have done/to do/
20100524 19:53:33< mordante> billynux, ok
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20100524 20:03:20< mordante> afk
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20100524 20:05:49< zookeeper> umm, who knows how the formula language works? those $() expressions you can use in WML. i'm not even sure who implemented it.
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20100524 20:11:03< timotei> silene is the one who wrote the WML thingys afair
20100524 20:11:12< timotei> zookeeper: so you should ask him
20100524 20:11:39< silene> no way, formula wml was added while i was looking away
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20100524 20:12:55< fendrin> timotei: Sirp__ did the formula thing.
20100524 20:13:30< timotei> oh, I thought zookeeper was talking about the $ expressions in WML
20100524 20:13:36< timotei> for variables afair
20100524 20:14:48< AI0867> $interpolation != $( formula expression )
20100524 20:16:02< timotei> sorry
20100524 20:16:14< boucman> crab might help
20100524 20:16:20< timotei> $(formula expr) is used for AI?
20100524 20:16:30< boucman> and http://wiki.wesnoth.org/FormulaAI has some stuff too
20100524 20:16:36< AI0867> well, the formula language can be used for more than formula AI
20100524 20:17:01< zookeeper> how confusing. well, i didn't have any specific question, just wanted to know who to ask when i do...
20100524 20:17:21< AI0867> well, sirp wrote it in silvertree I believe
20100524 20:17:27< AI0867> then it got backported to wesnoth
20100524 20:17:33< AI0867> the most advanced version is in frogatto
20100524 20:17:45< AI0867> where it is known as Frogatto Formula Language
20100524 20:19:15< AI0867> mordante: a 1.7 TODO in variable.hpp states that vconfig::vconfig() should be changed to contain an empty config rather than NULL, for gui2 reasons
20100524 20:22:19< AI0867> currently, attributes can be extracted from an empty vconfig, but getting child nodes will cause segfaults
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20100524 20:39:43< CIA-86> boucman * r42841 /trunk/data/core/terrain-graphics/ (misc.cfg transitions_overlay.cfg): generalize village macros using meta-macros
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20100524 20:55:54< CIA-86> caslav_ilic * r42842 /branches/1.8/ (14 files in 4 dirs): Updated translations for Serbian.
20100524 20:57:19< Crab_> zookeeper: it is the formula language, the same one which is used by formula ai , but without any ai-related functions. it's also used by wml and somewhere in the (old?) gui.
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20100524 21:00:34< Crab_> zookeeper: there are some docs in the formula ai documentation, a few sections such as http://wiki.wesnoth.org/FormulaAI#Formula_Basics and http://wiki.wesnoth.org/FormulaAI#Data_Types and from http://wiki.wesnoth.org/FormulaAI_Functions#core_functions
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20100524 21:08:48< Gambit> Christheturtle: Hey!
20100524 21:09:06< Gambit> oops wrong channel.
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20100524 21:21:42< CIA-86> silene * r42843 /trunk/src/help.cpp: Avoided costly roundtrip through strings.
20100524 21:21:51< CIA-86> silene * r42844 /trunk/src/ai/composite/aspect.cpp: Avoided costly roundtrip through strings.
20100524 21:21:54< CIA-86> silene * r42845 /trunk/src/storyscreen/part.cpp: Avoided costly roundtrip through strings.
20100524 21:21:59< CIA-86> silene * r42846 /trunk/src/dialogs.cpp: Avoided costly roundtrip through strings. Prevented spurious creation of summary attributes.
20100524 21:22:01< CIA-86> silene * r42847 /trunk/src/team.cpp: Avoided costly roundtrip through strings.
20100524 21:22:05< CIA-86> silene * r42848 /trunk/src/config.cpp: Fixed integer values not being promoted to float.
20100524 21:24:09< AI0867> all_children_iterator makes it rather difficult to check in every case, so an easier solution would be to simply disallow the use of vconfig::vconfig() and convert all the current uses
20100524 21:26:13< billynux> mordante, still afk? valgrind is reporting that there is a memleak from asio_server.cpp:49 but I think that is destroyed in asio_server.cpp:34 (pastebin is down)
20100524 21:26:39< billynux> brb, 20'
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20100524 21:47:46< mordante> AI0867, can't remember what to problem was
20100524 21:50:32< CIA-86> torangan * r42849 /trunk/po/wesnoth-dw/cs.po: czech translation update
20100524 21:50:32< mordante> billynux, why would the destructor destroy a naked pointer? (which is doesn't, either free manually or use std::auto_ptr)
20100524 21:51:10< mordante> also calling run twice will leak memory
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20100524 22:14:11< boucman> esr: around ?
20100524 22:17:20< Gambit> So why does the server only allow games with under 9 sides?
20100524 22:17:26< Gambit> Who could I talk to about that?
20100524 22:24:29< boucman> you sure the limitation is on the server side ?
20100524 22:24:51< boucman> my guess is that has been hardwired for a long time, it would be an interesting addition, though
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20100524 22:35:49< boucman> from compat.cfg:
20100524 22:35:52< boucman> # Macros for compatibility with 1.5.0 and before
20100524 22:36:03< boucman> I think it's safe to remove these...
20100524 22:36:33< boucman> but not right now, i'm reorganizing other stuff :P
20100524 22:40:41< Rhonda> Ivanovic: Fine with me, if chrber needs helpout with wesnoth.po let me know.
20100524 22:40:43< silene> boucman: yes, it's a server limitation; grep for MAX_PLAYERS
20100524 22:50:53< mordante> I'm off night
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20100524 22:51:13< CIA-86> eleazar * r42850 /trunk/data/ (4 files in 2 dirs): switcing terrain code for tropical water from 'Wt' to 'Wwt' to make wildcarding easier. Left in 'Wt' for now but made it look ugly in case anywone used it.
20100524 22:53:37< CIA-86> boucman * r42851 /trunk/data/core/terrain-graphics/ (8 files): reorganize single hex drawings (base, overlay, villages) to all derive from a common macro. Usage should be more straightforward, all parameters and usage are similar. No expected compatibility problems
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20100524 23:02:13< esr> boucman: What's up?
20100524 23:04:01< boucman> esr: when wmllint does type checking on terrain macros, does it consider TERRAIN differently of TERRAINLIST, or are these two equivalent ?
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20100524 23:04:43< gabba> bonjour
20100524 23:04:48< boucman> salut
20100524 23:04:54< gabba> salut boucman
20100524 23:04:56< boucman> passé une bonne journée ?
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20100524 23:05:20< gabba> excellente merci :), un beau temps magnifique
20100524 23:05:28< boucman> chez nous aussi
20100524 23:05:37< gabba> tant mieux
20100524 23:05:46< CIA-86> boucman * r42852 /trunk/data/core/terrain-graphics/compat.cfg: remove macros marked for removal since 1.5.x
20100524 23:07:16< boucman> et point du vu codage ?
20100524 23:07:23< boucman> ça donne quoi ?
20100524 23:07:49< gabba> j'organise mes notes sur le système des flèches
20100524 23:08:13< boucman> :)
20100524 23:08:58< gabba> d'ailleurs il y a un truc que j'aimerais confirmer: on avait bien dit que ce serait une bonne idée d'accéder aux flèches à partir de display.cpp?
20100524 23:09:38< boucman> "acceder" dans quel sens ? faire une API générique indépendante du Whiteboard ?
20100524 23:09:52< Espreon> Uh, am I in Hell?
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20100524 23:10:14< boucman> (btw, gabba asked me to help him improve his french, if anybody wants to follow the conversation, just ask and we'll switch back)
20100524 23:10:34< Espreon> I see.
20100524 23:10:35< esr> boucman: No.  A TERRAIN is a single terrain code, a TERRAINLIST is a terrain list or pattern.
20100524 23:10:44< Espreon> boucman: Carry on.
20100524 23:11:26< gabba> boucman: c'était le plan de toutes façons, mais je me demande si le "point d'accès" à l'API des flèches devrait être à partir de la classe display, ou tout simplement à part
20100524 23:11:29< boucman> esr: ok, and can a macro with a TERRAIN argument use that argument to call another macro with a TERRAINLIST argument ?
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20100524 23:12:47< gabba> Espreon: in Hell :P ? Something about the Normans :D ?
20100524 23:12:51< boucman> "logiquement" ça fait parti de la classe display, mais celle ci est déja très grosse, donc ça ne me choquerait pas si tu faisais une sous classe display::arrows ou qqch comme ça
20100524 23:14:12< gabba> boucman: ok, c'est bien ce que je me disais
20100524 23:16:29< gabba> je sens que je vais m'amuser avec le build system de Wesnoth... les nouveaux fichiers doivent être ajoutés à Scons, Cmake et ...?
20100524 23:16:48< boucman> automake :P
20100524 23:16:56< gabba> joie
20100524 23:17:30< boucman> pour scons et cmake, c'est trivial, pour les autres, les mainteneurs des systèmes de build s'en chargent, il faut juste signaler dans le commitlog que tu ne l'as pas fait
20100524 23:17:46< boucman> (j'attends avec impatience le jour où on abandonnera automake
20100524 23:18:13< gabba> ok
20100524 23:18:42< loonycyborg> In english please :(
20100524 23:19:04< boucman> loonycyborg: ok, we were just discussing the steps needed to add a new file
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20100524 23:20:36< loonycyborg> Понял :P
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20100524 23:21:05 * boucman calls Crab_ for help :P
20100524 23:21:59< Espreon> loonycyborg: Moar Russian please.
20100524 23:22:09< Crab_> :)
20100524 23:22:23< boucman> hehe
20100524 23:23:20 * loonycyborg goes to build the Tower of Babel :P
20100524 23:23:55< gabba> loonycyborg: :)
20100524 23:25:01< gabba> I guess we'll save the french for when the channel is reaaaally empty :P
20100524 23:25:09< gabba> what did that mean loonycyborg by the way?
20100524 23:26:11< boucman> "understood"
20100524 23:26:15< loonycyborg> Yes.
20100524 23:26:19< boucman> :D
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20100524 23:27:52< gabba> Sorry, I'm currently limited to french, english, spanish and italian :P (and uh, I can pronounce ancient greek and somewhat read latin, if that counts ;) )
20100524 23:28:05< CIA-86> ivanovic * r42854 /branches/1.8/po/ (11 files in 11 dirs): updated Galician translation
20100524 23:28:06< CIA-86> ivanovic * r42853 /trunk/po/ (26 files in 26 dirs): updated Galician translation
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20100524 23:31:41< CIA-86> espreon * r42855 /trunk/data/core/images/terrain/bridge/ (23 files): 
20100524 23:31:41< CIA-86> Ran wesnoth-optipng:
20100524 23:31:41< CIA-86> Overall statistics (only for files with a smaller recompressed size):
20100524 23:31:41< CIA-86> Original size: 180 KiB on 23 files
20100524 23:31:41< CIA-86> Optimized size: 122 KiB
20100524 23:31:42< CIA-86> Total saving: 57 KiB = 31% decrease
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20100524 23:57:04< boucman> gabba: i'll be here quite late tomorow, but we should have some time to talk
20100524 23:57:22< gabba> boucman: alright, no problem
20100524 23:57:24< boucman> don't hesistate to commit whenever you have something to show me, since I can check my mail all day long
20100524 23:57:26< boucman> night all
20100524 23:57:31< gabba> night
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