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20100527 01:00:24< Aethaeryn> Does anyone know how Wesnoth's MP is on bandwith?
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20100527 08:24:44< CIA-86> gabba * r42924 /trunk/src/ (arrow.cpp arrow.hpp): Implemented the arrow class
20100527 08:24:50< CIA-86> gabba * r42925 /trunk/src/ (arrow.cpp arrow.hpp): Templatized the map_location+surface pair for arrows
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20100527 09:18:07< Rhonda> silene: Yep, that's #define BOOST_LIB_VERSION "1_42" in there.
20100527 09:18:36< Rhonda> Anyway, too little time right now to investigate further.
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20100527 09:24:36< silene> Rhonda: could it be that the debian rules overwrite the m4/boost.m4 file? or that this file is present somewhere else on your system?
20100527 09:26:05< Rhonda> If autogen doesn't do that I wouldn't know how, it's not in the filesystem otherwise.
20100527 09:28:23< silene> i'm asking, because the "official" boost.m4 uses the "*[[!0-9]]*" pattern, while wesnoth' one uses the "*[[^0-9]]*" pattern to detect invalid version numbers; so perhaps it makes a difference depending on the shells
20100527 09:30:42< Rhonda> | *[[^0-9]]*)
20100527 09:30:48< Rhonda> That's in the file, yes.
20100527 09:31:10< Rhonda> Not sure, there might be something very wrong here, don't worry too much.
20100527 09:31:25< silene> Rhonda: i just checked the posix standard, and they seem to say that ^ produces undefined results (why?!), could you try with ! instead?
20100527 09:32:45< Rhonda> checking for Boost headers version >= 1.35... /usr/include
20100527 09:32:45< Rhonda> checking for Boost's header version... 1_42
20100527 09:32:45< Rhonda> checking for the toolset name used by Boost for g++... gcc44
20100527 09:32:50< Rhonda> That actually did the trick, wow.
20100527 09:33:11< silene> thanks, i will change it then
20100527 09:33:42< silene> i still can't believe they dared standardize "A bracket expression starting with an unquoted circumflex character produces  unspecified results."
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20100527 09:37:22< Rhonda> silene: hihi :)
20100527 09:37:27< CIA-86> silene * r42926 /trunk/m4/boost.m4: Fixed Boost's version matching failing on some systems.
20100527 09:40:04< Rhonda> silene: Do you use make -j2 or similar? Parallel building? Does that work for you with autotools?
20100527 09:41:05< silene> Rhonda: i haven't tried this past month (it's getting too hot and it brings my computer if i build -j2 now), but it was definitely working
20100527 09:41:15< silene> +down
20100527 09:43:00< CIA-86> silene * r42927 /branches/1.8/src/scripting/lua.cpp: 
20100527 09:43:00< CIA-86> Added missing name accessor for event contexts.
20100527 09:43:00< CIA-86> Backported from trunk r42908.
20100527 09:43:06< CIA-86> silene * r42928 /branches/1.8/m4/boost.m4: 
20100527 09:43:06< CIA-86> Fixed Boost's version matching failing on some systems.
20100527 09:43:06< CIA-86> Backported from trunk r42926.
20100527 09:44:21< Rhonda> silene: Then it's the fault of how I did my debian/rules file. Thanks. :)
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20100527 09:44:46 * Rhonda . o O ( … or rather, how isaac did the debian/rules file. Or CyrilB. Not me, though )
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20100527 09:49:09< Ivanovic> moin
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20100527 10:04:36< CIA-86> ivanovic * r42929 /trunk/po/wesnoth-trow/ru.po: updated Russian translation
20100527 10:04:42< CIA-86> ivanovic * r42930 /branches/1.8/po/wesnoth-trow/ru.po: updated Russian translation
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20100527 10:26:22< Rhonda> silene: Ah yes, can you pretty please set AM_MAINTAINER_MODE?
20100527 10:26:34< Rhonda> That macro would be extremely helpful …
20100527 10:26:36< silene> what does it do?
20100527 10:28:21< Rhonda> So that the autotools don't on every run check wether there is something to regenerate and potentially run configure over again.
20100527 10:30:39< silene> it seems to disable a pretty useful feature, that is, regenerate makefiles whenever a file is added
20100527 10:30:55< silene> if you need it, shouldn'y you just use the command-line option --enable-maintainer-mode?
20100527 10:33:18< silene> ah, i seem to get it backward; the maintainer mode seems to be enabled by default for me
20100527 10:33:33< Rhonda> That feature makes sense for developers - but not for endusers.
20100527 10:33:41< Rhonda> So in the tarball the macro should be set.
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20100527 10:34:42< silene> Rhonda: you mean unset, right? or am i still missing something?
20100527 10:36:44< silene> or perhaps you mean that i should set it, and then you would be able to unset it by command line?
20100527 10:37:00< Rhonda> Putting AM_MAINTAINER_MODE into the configure file does stop regeneration.
20100527 10:37:01< Rhonda> AIUI
20100527 10:37:41< Rhonda> "Use AM_MAINTAINER_MODE in configure.ac: this prevents automake and autoconf from being automatically rerun by make when timestamps are broken (e.g. by applying a patch)."
20100527 10:39:08< silene> Rhonda: here is my suggestion; i will put AM_MAINTAINER_MODE([enable]) in configure.ac, and you will put --disable-maintainer-mode in debian/rules; that way, it would work for both of us
20100527 10:39:32< Rhonda> Sounds fine for me. :)
20100527 10:40:10< Rhonda> Though, isn't the macro working the other way round?
20100527 10:41:00< Rhonda> And I guess the more useful approach for the broader view would be for you to use the switch and have it by default the way to not rerun automatically. :)
20100527 10:42:33< silene> Rhonda: i'm not sure, it seems to be better to have it by default; as the documentation says: "Jim Meyering, the inventor of the `AM_MAINTAINER_MODE' macro... got rid of `AM_MAINTAINER_MODE' in all of his packages.", so it seems a bit ill-designed
20100527 10:43:18< silene> in particular, disabling the maintainer mode prevents users from applying patch themselves
20100527 10:43:24< Rhonda> Isn't that the same for most things in autotools? ;)
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20100527 10:51:02< CIA-86> silene * r42931 /trunk/configure.ac: Explicitely enabled maintainer mode, so that package maintainers are able to disable it in order to prevent dependency tracking.
20100527 10:53:41< CIA-86> silene * r42932 /branches/1.8/configure.ac: 
20100527 10:53:41< CIA-86> Explicitely enabled maintainer mode, so that package maintainers are able to disable it in order to prevent dependency tracking.
20100527 10:53:41< CIA-86> Backported from trunk r42931.
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20100527 13:07:03< Rhonda> silene: Great, fixed the rules file, parallel build works for me now :D
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20100527 16:19:36< timotei> hey Ivanovic
20100527 16:19:42< Ivanovic> hi timotei
20100527 16:19:53< Ivanovic> timotei: ecplipse part working as expected?
20100527 16:19:58< Ivanovic> (website)
20100527 16:20:09< timotei> Ivanovic: I've added the website. and it's working (tested locally)
20100527 16:20:12< timotei> http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth/website/eclipse.wesnoth.org/
20100527 16:20:25< timotei> so you can make the switch
20100527 16:20:49< Ivanovic> the switch is long done!
20100527 16:22:06< timotei> Ivanovic: oh. you're right :)). I didn't know why I thought it was pointing to the old path. Thanks
20100527 16:23:23< CIA-86> timotei * r42933 /website/eclipse.wesnoth.org/index.html: fix the last update date
20100527 16:23:27< timotei> Ivanovic: it works like the older one? Website updated (checkout) at each 30 mins?
20100527 16:23:34< Ivanovic> jupp
20100527 16:23:43< timotei> ok
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20100527 18:28:01< AI0867> boucman: wmlvalidator is mine, the (incomplete) schema is in /data/schema.cfg
20100527 18:28:05< CIA-86> silene * r42934 /trunk/src/ai/composite/rca.cpp: Avoided costly roundtrip through strings.
20100527 18:28:13< CIA-86> silene * r42935 /trunk/src/theme.cpp: Avoided costly roundtrip through strings.
20100527 18:28:16< CIA-86> silene * r42936 /trunk/src/ (sound_music_track.cpp sound_music_track.hpp): 
20100527 18:28:16< CIA-86> Avoided costly roundtrip through strings.
20100527 18:28:16< CIA-86> Removed half-backed copy constructor and assignment.
20100527 18:28:16< CIA-86> Factored code.
20100527 18:28:19< CIA-86> silene * r42937 /trunk/src/ (cavegen.cpp cavegen.hpp): Avoided costly roundtrip through strings.
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20100527 19:18:47< CIA-86> ivanovic * r42938 /branches/1.8/po/wesnoth/de.po: updated German translation
20100527 19:18:57< CIA-86> ivanovic * r42939 /trunk/po/ (26 files in 26 dirs): updated German translation
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20100527 19:49:03< [Relic]> Hello :)
20100527 19:50:20< Aethaeryn> Hi.
20100527 19:50:20< timotei> hey there [Relic]
20100527 19:50:28< [Relic]> :)
20100527 20:28:35< CIA-86> ai0867 * r42940 /website/eclipse.wesnoth.org/ (11 files in 4 dirs): Ran umcpropfix
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20100527 20:30:16< timotei> thanks AI0867
20100527 20:30:54< timotei> AI0867: what's the purpose of the umcpropfix ? fixing file types on the svn?
20100527 20:34:16< CIA-86> timotei * r42941 /trunk/utils/java/eclipse_plugin/templates/build.xml: eclipse plugin: wrap the project into project's name directory
20100527 20:34:24< CIA-86> timotei * r42942 /trunk/utils/java/eclipse_plugin/ (9 files in 6 dirs): 
20100527 20:34:24< CIA-86> eclipse plugin: preprocess files in the project on building
20100527 20:34:24< CIA-86> eclipse plugin: added the wmltools entry in preferences dialog
20100527 20:44:15< AI0867> timotei: it changes svn properties, yes
20100527 20:45:07< AI0867> svn:mime-type can be useful for the svn web interface, svn:executable does what its name implies (and it was set on all your files, do you run windows?), svn:eol-style controls line-ending conversions
20100527 20:45:56< AI0867> and svn:keywords can be used to add some autogenerated revision information into a file
20100527 20:46:37< timotei> AI0867: no... I'm on linux. haven't entered windows for 1 week or so :))
20100527 20:46:50< AI0867> odd
20100527 20:46:59< timotei> but I'm using git :))
20100527 20:47:01< timotei> no svn:P
20100527 20:47:06< timotei> maybe that's the cause
20100527 20:47:14< AI0867> do you have some kind of strange filesystem settings that makes files executable on creation?
20100527 20:47:19< AI0867> my university does that
20100527 20:47:23< AI0867> it's really annoying
20100527 20:47:34< timotei> don't really know. how do I check that?
20100527 20:47:36< timotei> ls -lha?
20100527 20:47:48< AI0867> touch test-file;ls -l test-file
20100527 20:47:56< AI0867> and rm test-file
20100527 20:48:25< timotei> -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 May 27 21:48 test
20100527 20:48:32< AI0867> 777?
20100527 20:48:39< timotei> hey... I think I know why. I'm working on my NTFS drive=)
20100527 20:48:41< AI0867> and you're running under root?
20100527 20:48:46< timotei> it's mounted
20100527 20:49:08< timotei> the entire wesnoth directory has that properties
20100527 20:49:27< timotei> but I can create/edit/run things from my ... normal user account
20100527 20:49:36< AI0867> you probably have filemode = false in your .git/config then
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20100527 21:00:36< timotei> AI0867: yes. it's false
20100527 21:00:41< timotei> should it be true?
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20100527 21:04:52< CIA-86> gabba * r42943 /trunk/src/arrow.cpp: Arrows: notify observers of updates.
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20100527 21:05:42< gabba> hi
20100527 21:06:11< timotei> hi gabba:)
20100527 21:06:20< gabba> hello timotei
20100527 21:09:03< Espreon> gabba: Whenever you create new .cpp/.hpp/whatever files, please make sure that you include the following: an SVN keywords line, copyright info, and licensing info.
20100527 21:09:10< Espreon> *create a new
20100527 21:09:15< Espreon> AAAAH!
20100527 21:09:30 * Espreon needs to start proofreading
20100527 21:09:31< gabba> Espreon: funny you mention that now, I was precisely realizing the same thing
20100527 21:09:35< Espreon> ... which will never happen.
20100527 21:09:41< Espreon> Ah, good.
20100527 21:09:59< gabba> What's the svn keywords line exactly?
20100527 21:10:09< Espreon> $Id$
20100527 21:10:25< Espreon> Of course, make sure that it is commented.
20100527 21:11:31< gabba> thanks, adding all that now
20100527 21:11:38< Espreon> Also, be sure that the following properties are set: svn:eol-style (native); svn:keywords (too lazy to list the keywords; run "svn pl -v" on one of the .cpp/.hpp files that have it)
20100527 21:13:02< gabba> ok
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20100527 21:13:50< timotei> AI0867: i've switched: filemode = true. and it gave me a lot of files that needed to be "modified" :)) 
20100527 21:13:57< timotei> AI0867: I'll let it like this for now.
20100527 21:14:06< gabba> I suppose it's ok to obfuscate our email in the copyright part, with (at) instead of @ and so on? I receive enough spam already...
20100527 21:14:31< Espreon> I guess.
20100527 21:14:57 * Espreon rarely gets spam; when he gets it, it doesn't touch his inbox.
20100527 21:15:25< CIA-86> timotei * r42944 /trunk/utils/java/eclipse_plugin/src/wesnoth_eclipse_plugin/builder/SampleBuilder.java: eclipse plugin: preprocess ".CFG" files too
20100527 21:15:32< CIA-86> timotei * r42945 /trunk/utils/java/eclipse_plugin/ (4 files in 2 dirs): 
20100527 21:15:32< CIA-86> eclipse plugin: move all context menus in a dedicated group
20100527 21:15:32< CIA-86> eclipse plugin: add new dummy context menus
20100527 21:16:13< gabba> Espreon: you must have friends with better computing habits than mine
20100527 21:16:31< timotei> gabba: your friends send spam? :-)
20100527 21:16:34< gabba> i.e. that don't send chain emails with the whole galaxy in CC
20100527 21:17:02< gabba> then all it takes is an email-harvesting virus and you're done for
20100527 21:17:34< timotei> gabba: use linux/ windows+antivirus
20100527 21:17:43< gabba> at least I think that's how the spammers got my email since I'm otherwise very careful with it
20100527 21:17:56< cib0> use windows and don't install viruses ;)
20100527 21:18:14< gabba> timotei: I can't control viruses on all of my friends' friends' computers ;
20100527 21:18:15< Espreon> gabba: Heh, I guess.
20100527 21:19:02< timotei> gabba: don't need to. I didn't have A virus in my "entire" computing history (i.e. it didn't survive more than 2-3 hours, until it has been destroyed  - without destroying my PC)
20100527 21:19:17< timotei> you just need to be "pesimistic" :))
20100527 21:19:56< gabba> timotei: my last virus dates from years ago - I think you misunderstood what I was saying
20100527 21:20:04< Espreon> ... and now I must go... yeahz.
20100527 21:20:34< timotei> gabba: oh.. your friedns are infecting your friends?:)
20100527 21:22:37< gabba> Nope. I receive spam, and I never left my email in the open on the web. So how did the spammers get it? I think it's because some of my friends forward stupid emails to *all their contacts*, so my email gets sent to hundreds of computer. And I think some of those are infected with viruses that harvest email addresses for spam purposes.
20100527 21:23:19< timotei> oh. understood now:D
20100527 21:23:44< gabba> solution: avoid making friends :P
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20100527 21:49:54< CIA-86> gabba * r42946 /trunk/src/ (arrow.cpp arrow.hpp): svn properties for arrow.cpp/hpp
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20100527 21:58:55< CIA-86> gabba * r42947 /trunk/src/ (arrow.cpp arrow.hpp): Copyright and licensing for arrow.cpp/hpp
20100527 22:00:48< timotei> fendrin: hey
20100527 22:00:55< timotei> fendrin: around?
20100527 22:01:16< fendrin> timotei: yes
20100527 22:01:46< timotei> fendrin: do you have some time to checkout the last plugin version (I'll commit it in a few minutes) and check something?
20100527 22:02:09< timotei> I don't know why it doesn't open correctly the preprocessed .cfg, but the .plain opens ok
20100527 22:02:14< fendrin> timotei: Sorry, no. There is a deadline in 2 hours for checking in an graded java project.
20100527 22:02:25< fendrin> timotei: But I have time form there on all the weekend.
20100527 22:02:25< timotei> fendrin: ok, no problem :)
20100527 22:02:36< timotei> ok. good luck with that
20100527 22:04:44< CIA-86> timotei * r42948 /trunk/utils/java/eclipse_plugin/ (4 files in 3 dirs): 
20100527 22:04:44< CIA-86> eclipse plugin: actual implementation of the "show preprocessed config"
20100527 22:04:44< CIA-86> menus
20100527 22:06:06< CIA-86> mordante * r42949 /trunk/src/arrow.hpp: Add a virtual destructor.
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20100527 22:12:58< cib0> I got 1000x800 down to 14% when nothing's happening and 20% when scrolling. :)
20100527 22:13:08< cib0> Oh, wrong channel, sorry guys.
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20100527 22:32:09< CIA-86> timotei * r42950 /trunk/utils/java/eclipse_plugin/src/wesnoth_eclipse_plugin/action/WesnothProjectReport.java: eclipse plugin: actual implementation of the "show report" menu
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20100527 22:48:28< CIA-86> gabba * r42951 /trunk/src/ (arrow.cpp arrow.hpp arrow_observer.hpp display.hpp): Moved arrow_observer to its own header file to avoid mutual inclusions between arrow.hpp and display.hpp
20100527 22:52:10< CIA-86> gabba * r42952 /trunk/src/arrow_observer.hpp: svn properties for arrow_observer.hpp
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20100527 23:02:11< timotei> ok guys... I'm off
20100527 23:02:13< timotei> good night
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20100527 23:06:29< mordante> servus
20100527 23:07:15< Espreon> Ic grete þe.
20100527 23:07:24< mordante> hi Espreon 
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20100527 23:35:18< AI0867> timotei: no, it doesn't need to be true, I set it to false myself on all my git clones at the university too (they're doing something really strange with CIFS there)
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20100527 23:39:22< AI0867> gabba: there's a template lying around somewhere
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