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20100517 00:25:43< AI0867> Espreon: which characters are you actually using in pofix now? en-dashes? em-dashes and/or minuses? the latter two aren't the same character are they?
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20100517 04:18:23< Espreon> AI0867: Yeah, em dashes and Unicode minus signs.
20100517 04:20:07< Espreon> ... and they are different...
20100517 04:26:14< Espreon> ... and I'm leaving again.
20100517 04:32:24< AI0867> well, on my phone everything looks like (identical) garbage
20100517 04:32:50< AI0867> and on laptops, the stuff renders perfectly, but I can't tell the characters apart
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20100517 08:11:08< Blueblaze> hi
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20100517 13:58:18< Espreon> AI0867: There's probably a slight difference.
20100517 13:59:10< Espreon> I know that in Dejavu Sans, horizontal bars (the dash that is used at the end of quotes) is slightly longer.
20100517 13:59:20< Espreon> *are sightly longer than em dashes
20100517 14:10:49< zookeeper> anyone care to name some UMC with unconventional combat abilities, special attacks or some kind of combat feats you can learn? i thought i'd add some more things to learn in the training camp in BoL.
20100517 14:11:19< zookeeper> i mean something more elaborate than "+1 attacks" or "+1 damage" -.-
20100517 14:14:34< zookeeper> i'm gonna check bob's RPG era, but i'm sure there are more than that.
20100517 14:15:00< shadowmaster> "I suggest you get Dead Water from the add-on server, find out where its files went, [...]"
20100517 14:15:09< shadowmaster> they went to "mainline but unmaintained"
20100517 14:15:26< zookeeper> ok?
20100517 14:15:37< shadowmaster> I know, cheap joke. I can't avoid being annoyed by beetlenaut's unavailability
20100517 14:15:54< shadowmaster> even if it's for reasons neither we or he can control
20100517 14:16:58< zookeeper> yeah, well, at least DW is easy for almost anyone to look into if there's a problem, since it's nice.
20100517 14:17:54< zookeeper> no one wants to touch NR or UtBS with a long stick if there's a bug somewhere
20100517 14:18:47< shadowmaster> as long as beetlenaut notifies us of any changes he makes in the add-ons server
20100517 14:19:48< zookeeper> what do you mean; is he going to keep maintaining the 1.8 add-on but not trunk mainline?
20100517 14:20:48< shadowmaster> not sure. he already made one series of changes without notifying us as he should have
20100517 14:21:06< zookeeper> :S
20100517 14:21:07< shadowmaster> I only detected it by looking at the artwork thread ( http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=427773#p427773 )
20100517 14:21:28< zookeeper> has he been briefed on what he should be doing at all?
20100517 14:21:56< shadowmaster> well, I asked him to ask Ivanovic about getting commit access
20100517 14:22:17< shadowmaster> reminded him that DW needs a maintainer in mainline, etc. He'll get to it eventually, according to his last PM with me.
20100517 14:24:19< zookeeper> right...maybe he's waiting for 1.9.0 or something.
20100517 14:49:08< zookeeper> eh. any simpler way to write "adjacent friendly units get +10% chance to hit against enemies adjacent to both of you" (a feat description)?
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20100517 15:30:04< shadowmaster> KDE 4.4.3 is in Debian testing now.
20100517 15:30:34< timotei> wasn't until now?
20100517 15:30:42< shadowmaster> KDE 4.3.4 was in testing before.
20100517 15:30:45< timotei> oh
20100517 15:31:04< shadowmaster> and 4.4.3 was released upstream only at the beginning of this month. The Debian KDE maintainers got quick
20100517 15:31:31< shadowmaster> I hope that's not a bad thing. I guess I'll know that very soon.
20100517 15:34:33< timotei> "D
20100517 15:34:48< timotei> I have 4.4.3 for about 1 week if I remember the last update
20100517 15:37:19< shadowmaster> I love how with Debian testing I have the guarantee that stuff can break.
20100517 15:37:40< shadowmaster> while with openSUSE's upgrades system, I had the guarantee that stuff shouldn't break, but would break anyway.
20100517 15:38:28< shadowmaster> and yet, in my experience only the latter has broken enough to leave the whole system unusable, requiring a full reinstall
20100517 15:41:03< timotei> well, openSuse stayed only 20 minutes on my notebook:D
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20100517 16:15:22< shadowmaster> Linux 2.6.34 released.
20100517 16:15:55< shadowmaster> that means that I'll mess with KMS again just for the sake of it (and for IRQ support)
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20100517 17:08:14<@shadowmaster> *grr* tab completion failure
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20100517 17:11:39< shadowmaster> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=428661#p428661 probable spambot
20100517 17:11:51< shadowmaster> joined 3 days ago.
20100517 17:12:06< shadowmaster> posts twice within a few seconds in two different forums
20100517 17:12:18< shadowmaster> er, 6 minutes, not a few seconds. still.
20100517 17:12:37< Gambit> What a strange post.
20100517 17:12:53< shadowmaster> the bastard will probably edit it after a few hours or days
20100517 17:13:21< shadowmaster> I'll not abuse the Report Post feature. I'll just use it in a fairly different manner.
20100517 17:17:26< Gambit> shadowmaster: I think it's George Bush in disguise.
20100517 17:17:29< Gambit> He called it "the google".
20100517 17:17:48< timotei> :))
20100517 17:18:44< Gambit> Spam bots ussually don't make so many posts.
20100517 17:19:10< shadowmaster> you've seen nothing, kid.
20100517 17:19:18< shadowmaster> you've really seen NOTHING AT ALL.
20100517 17:20:13< Gambit> OH
20100517 17:20:14< Gambit> He's a bot
20100517 17:20:15< timotei> Gambit: this is just the start:D
20100517 17:20:30< Gambit> He just critiqued a music piece that doesn't exist.
20100517 17:20:48< Gambit> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=428667#p428667
20100517 17:21:08< shadowmaster> yeah.
20100517 17:21:14< shadowmaster> he'll go down the fucking toilet now.
20100517 17:21:35< shadowmaster> "Wesnoth game is really wonderful and amazing. It is very effective and attractive game. It has great features and functionalities. I found cheat book but i could not found it."
20100517 17:21:56< shadowmaster> bye bye
20100517 17:22:05< Gambit> I couldn't find wesnoth in my cheat books either.
20100517 17:22:55< shadowmaster> I can't say for sure it was a bot. I don't doubt the existence of human spammers for fire
20100517 17:22:59< shadowmaster> for hire, I mean.
20100517 17:25:07< shadowmaster> HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHA
20100517 17:25:12< shadowmaster> Gambit: look at this http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=394497#p394497
20100517 17:25:21< shadowmaster> look at the post date, look at the edit date!
20100517 17:25:38< Gambit> Weird.
20100517 17:27:05< shadowmaster> it used the fake signature trick
20100517 17:28:48< shadowmaster> in fact it seems like it's been editing its posts for a while
20100517 17:29:00< Gambit> Dayum.
20100517 17:29:17< shadowmaster> too bad that user edits aren't listed in the MCP logs
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20100517 17:33:15< shadowmaster> in other news, KDE broke.
20100517 17:33:38< Gambit> :o
20100517 17:34:05< shadowmaster> nah, it didn't.
20100517 17:34:17< shadowmaster> I just needed to restart kdm for real (because logout != restart for some odd reason)
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20100517 17:42:01< shadowmaster> oh my.
20100517 17:42:16< shadowmaster> KDE feels a lot like Windows Vii-- er... um.
20100517 17:42:22< shadowmaster> KDE feels a lot like KDE now.
20100517 17:42:37< timotei> :D
20100517 17:42:44< Gambit> KDE is a lot like Vista.
20100517 17:42:46< Gambit> Which is good.
20100517 17:42:53< Gambit> No matter what Unnheulu says.
20100517 17:44:21< shadowmaster> KDE is KDE. Period.
20100517 17:44:43< timotei> Vista is not good sorry:D
20100517 17:44:49< timotei> I mean, not at all
20100517 17:44:53< shadowmaster> I'm totally not drooling at the CPU-consuming eye-candy right now
20100517 17:44:54< shadowmaster> really
20100517 17:45:16< shadowmaster> :<
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20100517 17:46:13< CheeryShadowm> it's so...shiny...and...soooooft... ^_^
20100517 17:46:51< CheeryShadowm> I can almost touch it!
20100517 17:47:26< CheeryShadowm> KDE: the desktop environment that makes you want to touch it rather than burn it
20100517 17:48:51< Gambit> shadowmaster: It really isn't that power intensive.
20100517 17:49:01< CheeryShadowm> yes, it is ^_^
20100517 17:49:11< Gambit> Which makes me wonder what vista's deal is.
20100517 17:49:13< CheeryShadowm> look at this beautifully crafted screenshot which I'll upload in a few seconds
20100517 17:49:50< CheeryShadowm> http://shadowm.rewound.net/settings.png
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20100517 17:50:34-!- CheeryShadowm changed the topic of #wesnoth-umc-dev to: KDE 4.4 looks awesome and shadowmaster is happy because it's in Debian testing | Wesnoth-UMC-Dev Project discussion and support channel | http://wesnoth-umc-dev.ai0867.net | Staff: AI0867, Espreon, shadowmaster | Project interface: http://tinyurl.com/umcdev | Forum thread: http://tinyurl.com/umcdev-thread | IRC logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org, http://irclogs.ai0867.net
20100517 17:51:29< timotei> CheeryShadowm: meh... I like better the aurora engine :D
20100517 17:51:41<@CheeryShadowm> aurora? what's that?
20100517 17:52:05< timotei> window decoration engine
20100517 17:52:11< timotei> at the "Windows" tabs
20100517 17:52:13< timotei> tab*
20100517 17:52:21< timotei> Aurorae sorry
20100517 17:52:44< shadowmaster> let's see if I can find it
20100517 17:52:59< timotei> you must have it as an option
20100517 17:53:11< timotei> it's a lil' bit more cute than the default Oxygen
20100517 17:53:22< timotei> and also it can be customized a lot (I use some downloaded theme)
20100517 17:53:41< shadowmaster> need a external theme
20100517 17:53:52< shadowmaster> I see external themes
20100517 17:54:08< shadowmaster> I'll mess with it when I feel bored again.
20100517 17:54:16< timotei> :)
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20100517 18:14:03< shadowmaster> "joetraff"? ahhh, the guy I banned yesterday
20100517 18:17:55< shadowmaster> three spambots destroyed today.
20100517 18:18:04 * shadowmaster writes his score in the High Scores list.
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20100517 19:20:53<+CIA-9> wesnoth-umc-dev: shikadilord * r7134 /branches/maintenance-toolchain/umcpropfix: Admin: make umcpropfix fix properties on .java files using the C/C++/C# source rules
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