--- Log opened Tue May 25 00:00:31 2010 20100525 00:07:45-!- FireFly [~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly] has quit [Quit: swatted to death] 20100525 00:16:14-!- Blueblaze [~nick@adsl-99-182-52-253.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 00:32:02-!- bladeafk is now known as blademeld 20100525 00:38:31-!- Kepakiano [~Kepakiano@p5DDD6CDF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20100525 00:45:16-!- artisticdude [~9442274a@gateway/web/freenode/x-whkbdbmapxxgfrfw] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 00:46:14-!- Zarel [~Zarel@warzone2100/developer/Zarel] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 00:46:15-!- artisticdude [~9442274a@gateway/web/freenode/x-whkbdbmapxxgfrfw] has quit [Client Quit] 20100525 00:46:31-!- mrEPIC [~mrEPIC@adsl-76-203-158-228.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 00:46:54-!- Miccoh [~Miccoh@hoasnet-fe1fdd00-57.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Quit: Lähdössä] 20100525 01:07:32-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 01:12:31-!- Valkier [~IceChat7@c-174-55-104-2.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: On the other hand, you have different fingers.] 20100525 01:13:34-!- phlaem [~a@e178081079.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20100525 01:24:25-!- blademeld is now known as bladenap 20100525 01:30:59-!- martin__2 [~martin@g228203012.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20100525 01:32:34-!- thespaceinvader_ [~chatzilla@cpc3-whit4-2-0-cust871.know.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 01:32:46-!- thespaceinvader_ [~chatzilla@cpc3-whit4-2-0-cust871.know.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Client Quit] 20100525 01:36:15-!- thespaceinvader [~chatzilla@wesnoth/artist/thespaceinvader] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20100525 01:43:13 * shadowmaster slaps himself 20100525 01:43:20< shadowmaster> why didn't I think about encryption before? 20100525 01:44:30 * Christheturtle shrugs. 20100525 01:45:43< shadowmaster> oh hi 20100525 01:45:45< shadowmaster> fresh meat. 20100525 01:46:25-!- halifix [~halifix@adsl-69-109-168-190.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 01:50:19< Christheturtle> Ohai thar. 20100525 01:51:22< Christheturtle> And I'm not fresh... I'm second hand. :) 20100525 01:51:56< shadowmaster> Joined: May 19th, 2010, 9:08 am 20100525 01:52:03< shadowmaster> sounds fresh to me 20100525 01:52:45< Christheturtle> Damn. You got meh. 20100525 01:53:02< Christheturtle> I've played since 2004, I've just never registered. :o 20100525 01:53:13-!- rrix is now known as The_Edge 20100525 01:53:16< Christheturtle> Truthfully, I never thought to even look on the forums. I expected a small user base. 20100525 01:53:30-!- The_Edge is now known as rrix 20100525 01:54:54< Christheturtle> It's quite the opposite. 20100525 01:56:16-!- wooj [~wooj@unaffiliated/wooj] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 01:56:40< Christheturtle> I just lol'd at your thread moving speed. 20100525 01:56:53-!- Skystriker [~croselius@pool-70-111-210-233.nwrk.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20100525 02:01:38-!- mrEPIC [~mrEPIC@adsl-76-203-158-228.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20100525 02:05:15-!- TaylorSwift [~Taylor@222-155-72-45.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [] 20100525 02:06:34< Christheturtle> Bloody Hollywood. 20100525 02:07:43-!- Zarel [~Zarel@warzone2100/developer/Zarel] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 20100525 02:08:46< Christheturtle> Nighty night computer. 20100525 02:12:54 * Christheturtle yawns. 20100525 02:21:03-!- Zarel [~Zarel@warzone2100/developer/Zarel] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 02:24:52-!- Bob_The_Mighty [~chatzilla@cpc4-brig15-0-0-cust904.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 02:27:01< shadowmaster> pretty much. 20100525 02:28:38-!- Gambit is now known as Grickit 20100525 02:28:59-!- Grickit is now known as Gambit 20100525 02:34:55< Gambit> Christheturtle: Shadowmaster is like a ninja thread mover. 20100525 02:35:02< Gambit> He moves it before you've even posted it! 20100525 02:35:09< Christheturtle> Well I posted it before he moved! 20100525 02:35:17< Gambit> No. 20100525 02:35:19 * Christheturtle cheers. 20100525 02:35:22< Christheturtle> Yes I did! 20100525 02:35:23< Gambit> He moved it so fast you didn't even realize it. 20100525 02:35:39< Gambit> It took _that long_ for your brain to catch up. 20100525 02:35:41< Christheturtle> Besides, I'm a better ninja. 20100525 02:35:47< Gambit> Trust me. I'm looking at the MCP logs right now. 20100525 02:35:57< Gambit> He moved it a good 6.7 seconds before you posted. 20100525 02:36:19< Christheturtle> Honestly? O.O 20100525 02:36:20< Gambit> And computer timestamps don't lie! 20100525 02:37:16< Christheturtle> If he actually did move it before my message, that was leet. 20100525 02:38:11< shadowmaster> :/ 20100525 02:42:01-!- Blueblaze [~nick@adsl-99-182-52-253.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20100525 02:45:54-!- PetePorty [~Pete@pc-33-54-120-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 02:46:02< PetePorty> Hi guys 20100525 02:46:15< shadowmaster> so I should kill him. 20100525 02:46:18< shadowmaster> oh, hi PetePorty 20100525 02:46:31< PetePorty> O.o 20100525 02:46:41< PetePorty> hi Nacho ;) 20100525 02:46:48< PetePorty> I know where you live... 20100525 02:46:48< shadowmaster> argh. 20100525 02:46:57< shadowmaster> filthy lies. 20100525 02:47:44-!- PetePorty [~Pete@pc-33-54-120-200.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Client Quit] 20100525 02:48:07-!- PetePorty [~Pete@pc-33-54-120-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 02:48:29< PetePorty> tis no lies 20100525 02:49:17< PetePorty> you live on a small country nobody knows about 20100525 02:50:37< shadowmaster> I live in wesnoth.org 20100525 02:50:57< shadowmaster> crack that! 20100525 02:51:10< Christheturtle> Where is the dedicated server hosted? 20100525 02:51:13< PetePorty> sure, and I live in (insert a weird, twisteed web page here) 20100525 02:51:29< Christheturtle> chan4.com 20100525 02:51:31< PetePorty> omg! hi Chris, how you've been!? 20100525 02:51:31< Christheturtle> Lawl. 20100525 02:51:33< Christheturtle> Done. 20100525 02:51:50< Christheturtle> Do I know you? :O 20100525 02:51:56< PetePorty> nope 20100525 02:52:03< Christheturtle> Then I've been great! 20100525 02:52:09< PetePorty> awesome! 20100525 02:52:13< Christheturtle> I know! 20100525 02:52:24< PetePorty> cool 20100525 02:52:34< PetePorty> now ask nacho how he feels 20100525 02:52:40< Christheturtle> Nacho. 20100525 02:52:43< Christheturtle> How do you feel? 20100525 02:53:01< shadowmaster> wtf are you talking to? 20100525 02:53:07< Christheturtle> :O 20100525 02:53:13< Gambit> more specifcally shadowmaster lives in forums.wesnoth.org/ 20100525 02:53:14< shadowmaster> I don't see any Nacho. 20100525 02:53:16< PetePorty> you shadowmaster 20100525 02:53:19< shadowmaster> Gambit: true 20100525 02:53:22< shadowmaster> PetePorty: not true 20100525 02:53:27< PetePorty> true 20100525 02:54:05< Christheturtle> I see a Nacho. 20100525 02:54:17< PetePorty> you know I could only find 3 people with morelle in their name living in chile 20100525 02:54:36< Christheturtle> Why did you look? O.o 20100525 02:54:45< shadowmaster> who knows. 20100525 02:54:50< PetePorty> wanted to freak him out 20100525 02:54:53< Gambit> which is hosted by a site I can't read 20100525 02:54:58< Gambit> because it's in... french? 20100525 02:55:18< PetePorty> what are you talking about Gambit? 20100525 02:55:20< shadowmaster> Gambit: it's hosted in Hamsterland 20100525 02:55:39< shadowmaster> hence I am the hamster wheel operator at the forums 20100525 02:55:56< PetePorty> I thought that was Turuk 20100525 02:56:30< shadowmaster> Turuk? 20100525 02:56:39< shadowmaster> what is that? 20100525 02:56:39< PetePorty> aint he? 20100525 02:56:45< Christheturtle> I've owned a couple of dedicated servers, but they've always been located so far away. :( Not that I'd ever need to actually touch it. 20100525 02:57:25< PetePorty> http://forums.wesnoth.org/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=105610 20100525 02:57:33< Christheturtle> That's what the iWeb grunts are for. :)_ 20100525 02:57:34< PetePorty> that's Turuk 20100525 02:57:54< PetePorty> http://turuk.wordpress.com/ 20100525 02:57:55< Gambit> 15 Boulevard Vivier Merle 20100525 02:57:57< PetePorty> that one too 20100525 02:58:02< Gambit> Lyon 20100525 02:58:08< shadowmaster> PetePorty: there's no Turuk. 20100525 02:58:20< PetePorty> I just linked you 20100525 02:58:24< shadowmaster> THE FORUMS BELONG TO ME. OFF WITH YOUR HEAD. 20100525 02:58:31< PetePorty> ok, ok... 20100525 02:58:43< PetePorty> but... since he was the forum emperor.... 20100525 02:58:53< PetePorty> and you are just lord of the umc dev.... 20100525 02:59:01< PetePorty> ha! 20100525 02:59:13< Christheturtle> I heard he used to be the 'Forum Emperor'... What happened? :O 20100525 02:59:19< Christheturtle> And his blog is very outdated. 20100525 02:59:21< shadowmaster> I ate him 20100525 02:59:28< Gambit> He was the forum emperor 20100525 02:59:28< shadowmaster> er, I mean, ... 20100525 02:59:35-!- mode/#wesnoth [+q *!*@pc-33-54-120-200.cm.vtr.net] by ChanServ 20100525 02:59:37< Gambit> but shadowmaster convinced his son to join him 20100525 02:59:41< shadowmaster> okay, no, seriously. 20100525 02:59:45< Gambit> and togethor they rule the forums 20100525 02:59:49< shadowmaster> he's away. due to, real life, business. 20100525 03:00:10< Gambit> and they have matching prosthetic hands! 20100525 03:00:12< shadowmaster> I took over the forums because otherwise the lemmings would flood us with their corpses 20100525 03:00:19< Gambit> shadowmaster has to wear an iron lung and a helmet. 20100525 03:00:23< Christheturtle> What happens when you gotta give it back?! :O 20100525 03:00:43< shadowmaster> nothing. 20100525 03:00:47-!- Zarel [~Zarel@warzone2100/developer/Zarel] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 20100525 03:00:55< shadowmaster> I'm the one who works with the forum innards. 20100525 03:01:05< shadowmaster> he was the friendly supermoderator and support guy 20100525 03:01:45< shadowmaster> I'll keep answering the ridiculous requests from developers and users and Turuk, he'll take care of the rest. 20100525 03:01:52< shadowmaster> simple ^_^ 20100525 03:02:15< Gambit> And besides now we have Ken_Oh 20100525 03:02:19< Gambit> and Thrawn is back. 20100525 03:02:23< Gambit> And sangel 20100525 03:02:44< Christheturtle> So basically.. When he comes back you'll say you're "maintaining" the forums, fiddling with the "innards" and he'll do the work? :D 20100525 03:02:50< Christheturtle> I like it. 20100525 03:02:55-!- mode/#wesnoth [-q *!*@pc-33-54-120-200.cm.vtr.net] by ChanServ 20100525 03:03:00< shadowmaster> wait. 20100525 03:03:01< Gambit> Christheturtle: That's how it worked before. 20100525 03:03:08< PetePorty> ...jeeze 20100525 03:03:11< shadowmaster> no I didn't say that I was going to say anything 20100525 03:03:23< Gambit> nobody questions shadowmaster. 20100525 03:03:26< Gambit> He needn't say a word. 20100525 03:03:38< Christheturtle> He thinks it and it happens? :O 20100525 03:03:41< shadowmaster> I had to take some harsh decisions to provide a better user experience until he gets back 20100525 03:03:42< Gambit> If he tells you to jump you better find the tallest damn cliff in all creation! 20100525 03:04:00< shadowmaster> also to allow me and other developers to have more spare time 20100525 03:04:01< Christheturtle> Just for the record, I'm not undermining the work you've done. I was joking. 20100525 03:04:18< PetePorty> and now he bans users for no reason at all... beware 20100525 03:04:30< Gambit> Not true. 20100525 03:04:34< shadowmaster> "Username used by a spambot." 20100525 03:04:40< PetePorty> ok, *silences 20100525 03:04:41< shadowmaster> "E-mail address used by a spambot." 20100525 03:04:54< shadowmaster> those are my reasons most of the time :P 20100525 03:05:12< PetePorty> no, serriously, you gotta stop silencing me for no reason 20100525 03:05:20< Gambit> He's only banned 5 users in the past 7 days 20100525 03:05:23< Gambit> and they were all spam bots 20100525 03:05:30< Christheturtle> Lol! I didn't even realised you'd be silenced 20100525 03:05:35-!- Blueblaze [~irchon@166.133.232.179] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 03:05:36< PetePorty> you banned Gambot? 20100525 03:05:39< Christheturtle> been* 20100525 03:05:49< shadowmaster> PetePorty: only if you stop acting like a stalker 20100525 03:05:57< Gambit> He banned Gambot from where? 20100525 03:06:01< Gambit> sniff 20100525 03:06:04< Gambit> He won't even let Gambot exist. 20100525 03:06:07< Gambit> *+on the forums 20100525 03:06:09< PetePorty> ok, ok.... geeze, you can't stalk people xalmly nowadays... 20100525 03:06:10< Blueblaze> act like a superstar instead! 20100525 03:06:11< shadowmaster> Gambit: uh, I haven't banned gambot I believe 20100525 03:06:17< Gambit> But Gambohas nothing to do there. 20100525 03:06:31< shadowmaster> the +b list is empty, too 20100525 03:06:38< Christheturtle> Gambot should be on #wesnoth. :) 20100525 03:06:41< shadowmaster> no 20100525 03:06:46< Gambit> Christheturtle: He can't 20100525 03:06:47< Christheturtle> He rules. 20100525 03:06:49< Gambit> Physically. 20100525 03:06:51< Gambit> Technically 20100525 03:06:52< shadowmaster> there are enough bots already. I mean it. 20100525 03:06:53< Gambit> literally 20100525 03:06:57< Christheturtle> How many? 20100525 03:07:01< Gambit> he can only be on 1 channel currently. 20100525 03:07:01-!- Blueblaze [~irchon@166.133.232.179] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20100525 03:07:08< Gambit> The event gateway is retarded. 20100525 03:07:11< shadowmaster> Gambit: and seriously, if you wanted shikadibot in #wesnothxp you could have just asked since the beginning 20100525 03:07:18< Gambit> shadowmaster: I did. 20100525 03:07:20< PetePorty> omg, shad posted on the thingy i like 20100525 03:07:21< Gambit> Thrice. 20100525 03:07:25< Gambit> For logs. 20100525 03:07:27-!- Blueblaze [~irchon@166.133.232.179] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 03:07:28< PetePorty> *shivers* 20100525 03:07:29< shadowmaster> Gambit: o rly 20100525 03:07:36< Christheturtle> ye rly. 20100525 03:07:37< Christheturtle> sorry. 20100525 03:07:40< PetePorty> he locks all the things I like... 20100525 03:07:41< Gambit> Gambot can't log because I hath no file hosting anywhere. 20100525 03:07:41< shadowmaster> Gambit: no, really? 20100525 03:07:45< Gambit> shadowmaster: Yeah. 20100525 03:07:50< Gambit> Well twice maybe. 20100525 03:07:52< shadowmaster> Gambit: what was my reply? 20100525 03:07:54 * Gambit checks his logs. 20100525 03:08:10< Christheturtle> Logs ftw. 20100525 03:08:18< Christheturtle> In every situation. 20100525 03:08:22< PetePorty> oh, thx god... he didnt 20100525 03:08:40< PetePorty> oh, so I checked the 4chan thingy.... 20100525 03:08:43< Gambit> 4/19/10 at 1:08 20100525 03:08:56< Christheturtle> Just for the record Shadowmaster, I wasn't saying you'd been lazing around enjoying the power btw lol. It was a joke. 20100525 03:09:02< Gambit> hmm that's all I can find in #wesnothxp 20100525 03:09:08 * Gambit checks logs for shadowmaster. 20100525 03:09:18< Christheturtle> Broken logs ftl. 20100525 03:09:52< Gambit> shadowmaster: Just once apparently. 20100525 03:09:53< shadowmaster> off with his head 20100525 03:09:57< Gambit> :'( 20100525 03:10:07< shadowmaster> let me check mine 20100525 03:10:36< shadowmaster> let me make a command line for bunzip2ing them and grepping 20100525 03:11:02< Gambit> ahah! 20100525 03:11:04< Gambit> found #2 20100525 03:11:10< Gambit> #wesnothxp 4/20/10 20100525 03:11:13< Gambit> at 3:57 20100525 03:11:20< Gambit> one I asked for shikadibot 20100525 03:11:23< shadowmaster> bunzip2: bunzip error -2 20100525 03:11:25< shadowmaster> hm 20100525 03:11:26< Gambit> two I asked for wesbot 20100525 03:11:43< shadowmaster> uh. 20100525 03:11:48< Gambit> And I asked for you <3 20100525 03:11:48< shadowmaster> why they aren't bzip2ed 20100525 03:11:53< Gambit> rofl 20100525 03:11:56-!- Lancaster [~Miranda@123.119.84.1] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 03:12:07< shadowmaster> shut up 20100525 03:12:11< shadowmaster> my unix sense is tingling 20100525 03:12:26< Gambit> not rofl at that. 20100525 03:12:33< Gambit> rofl at heart emoticon 20100525 03:12:39< shadowmaster> ~/irclogs/Freenode $ for f in gambit*; do grep shikadibot "$f" && echo $f ; done 20100525 03:12:40-!- nmmachado [~chatzilla@189.38.200.116] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 03:12:48< shadowmaster> ahw wait, you said it was in #wesnothxp 20100525 03:12:53< shadowmaster> I'm searching in the wrong place 20100525 03:14:04< shadowmaster> Gambit: I have no logs of #wesnothxp for that day 20100525 03:14:12< Gambit> stby 20100525 03:14:13-!- Zerovirus [~62c45c53@gateway/web/freenode/x-boqjihhsrwjysuvp] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 03:14:26< shadowmaster> oh wait 20100525 03:14:30< shadowmaster> i do, he he 20100525 03:14:40< shadowmaster> no mentions of shikadibot 20100525 03:14:43< Gambit> I can send you my unedited directors cut pidgin logs. 20100525 03:14:58< Zerovirus> Somehow I interpreted that "i do" as a vow of marriage. 20100525 03:14:59< Christheturtle> mIRC ftw. 20100525 03:15:10< shadowmaster> Gambit: DCC? 20100525 03:15:21< Gambit> wow really? 20100525 03:15:34< shadowmaster> off with his head 20100525 03:16:04< Gambit> shadowmaster: sorry 20100525 03:16:08< Gambit> search "bots" on the first day. 20100525 03:16:12< Gambit> Not shikadibot. 20100525 03:16:17< Gambit> I have never asked for her by name. 20100525 03:16:23< Christheturtle> Lies! 20100525 03:16:29< Christheturtle> High Treason! 20100525 03:17:10< shadowmaster> Gambit: :/ 20100525 03:17:19-!- eyerouge [~snowdrop@c-d290e355.247-29-64736c16.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20100525 03:17:48< Gambit> I asked for eyerouge too! 20100525 03:17:54< Christheturtle> Lies! 20100525 03:17:57< Christheturtle> High Treason! 20100525 03:18:13 * Gambit afk for supper 20100525 03:18:16< shadowmaster> off with his head! 20100525 03:18:24< shadowmaster> Gambit: no seriously, you ccould have asked 20100525 03:18:30< shadowmaster> although I wonder what you want a bot for 20100525 03:18:38< Gambit> logging. 20100525 03:18:43< shadowmaster> (other than keeping channel modes, which chanserv can do) 20100525 03:18:44< shadowmaster> ah 20100525 03:18:45< Gambit> I said that both times didn't I? 20100525 03:18:51< shadowmaster> hm 20100525 03:19:04< shadowmaster> I think I asked fendrin whether he wanted #wesnothxp logged and the answer was negative 20100525 03:19:09< Gambit> your bots log anyway. 20100525 03:19:09< shadowmaster> not sure 20100525 03:19:15< Gambit> my bot does other cool stuff 20100525 03:19:18< Gambit> like announce forum posts 20100525 03:19:24< Gambit> and remembers things 20100525 03:19:26< Gambit> and does math 20100525 03:19:29< Gambit> and looks up GNA tasks 20100525 03:19:35< Zerovirus> and it knows why kids love cinnamon toast crunch 20100525 03:19:40< Gambit> exactly! 20100525 03:19:42< shadowmaster> it can't make coffee, can it 20100525 03:19:42< Christheturtle> It does. 20100525 03:19:42< Zerovirus> Does Shikadi know why kids love cinnamon toast crunch? 20100525 03:19:50< Christheturtle> No it doesnt 20100525 03:19:52< shadowmaster> Zerovirus: why are you highlighting me? 20100525 03:19:52< Christheturtle> :) 20100525 03:20:00< Zerovirus> :P 20100525 03:20:17< shadowmaster> anyway, I'm off to bed. 20100525 03:20:23< Zerovirus> WHOO EVERYONE PARTY 20100525 03:20:31< Zerovirus> LETS RAMPAGE BEFORE SM GETS BACK 20100525 03:20:38< shadowmaster> I'm still here. 20100525 03:20:48< Christheturtle> Damn. 20100525 03:21:01< Christheturtle> :o 20100525 03:21:31< Gambit> shadowmaster: I'll re-ask fendrin. 20100525 03:21:34< PetePorty> YAY! an all-man party in the internet! everyone's dream! 20100525 03:21:43 * Christheturtle thinks RAMPAGE. 20100525 03:21:53< Christheturtle> I cant get banned for thinking. :) 20100525 03:22:28< Zerovirus> I'm imagining that ancient but still awesome game Rampage, except with Gambit's head as the lizard dude and my head on the monkey dude. 20100525 03:22:48< Christheturtle> Omg. Rampage ftw. 20100525 03:23:24< Christheturtle> Who would win? 20100525 03:23:27< Zerovirus> I loved getting those girls that were stupid enough to stick their heads out the windows in full sight of a monster eating the city 20100525 03:23:41< Zerovirus> Hm... Who would win? 20100525 03:23:48< Zerovirus> Indeed. A very good question. 20100525 03:23:56< Christheturtle> Quite. 20100525 03:24:15< Zerovirus> Neither of our skillsets are related to playing an arcade game, though. My art won't help me at all, and Gambit's code won't help him master the intricacies of the joystick control system. 20100525 03:24:31< Christheturtle> Well Gambit is AFK. If you striked now, you'd probally have a significat upper hand. 20100525 03:24:36< VurtualRuler98> Yeah man, joysticks are so... intricate. 20100525 03:24:38< Christheturtle> significant* 20100525 03:24:40< Zerovirus> BUT THEN GAMBOT APPEARS TO PLAY AS AI 20100525 03:24:45< PetePorty> I know button-smashing, that's my best skill 20100525 03:24:46< Zerovirus> AND I CAN NEVER BEAT THE AI 20100525 03:24:48< Christheturtle> OMG NOT AI 20100525 03:24:52< Zerovirus> ITS SENTIENT I TELL YOU 20100525 03:24:55< Zerovirus> IT KNOOOWWWWSSS 20100525 03:25:14< Christheturtle> Quick! Turn off the screen! If you cant see him beating you, it didn't happen. 20100525 03:25:15< VurtualRuler98> anyways hi I'm the thought police 20100525 03:25:21< VurtualRuler98> you're under arrest for thinking about rampaging. 20100525 03:25:26< Christheturtle> Awww shucks. :)( 20100525 03:25:27< Christheturtle> :(* 20100525 03:25:50< Christheturtle> You got a badge? 20100525 03:25:50< Zerovirus> But I've always loved Shadowmaster 20100525 03:25:59< Zerovirus> Shadowmaster is watching you 20100525 03:26:02< VurtualRuler98> yes I do, it's an imaginary badge. 20100525 03:26:03< PetePorty> O.o!!! 20100525 03:26:06< VurtualRuler98> Because I'm thought police. 20100525 03:26:11< Zerovirus> Imagination is crimethink 20100525 03:26:23< Zerovirus> No imagining allowed in the future orwellian dystopia of Wesnoth 20100525 03:26:23< VurtualRuler98> Anyways now I have to go play Galaga because you guys reminded me of arcade games 20100525 03:26:25< Christheturtle> Shadowmaster is watching me? D: 20100525 03:26:29< Christheturtle> Like, even when I'm offline? 20100525 03:26:32< VurtualRuler98> draggin' out that arcade cabinet 20100525 03:26:40< Zerovirus> GO MAN GO GET A HIGH SCORE GOOOO 20100525 03:26:56< PetePorty> come on shad, you silence me for saying 'ha' and not hime for saying 'I love shadowmaster'!? 20100525 03:27:23< PetePorty> sure he is chris 20100525 03:27:48< Zerovirus> I am a trained master of the ways of doublethink. And doubletalk. Or was it doublespeak? My memory is doubleungoodfail right now. 20100525 03:27:48< PetePorty> he has many names, and he's always watching you 20100525 03:28:07< Zerovirus> Like Ceiling Cat 20100525 03:28:21-!- mnewton1 [~ad4be68e@gateway/web/freenode/x-dncjfcujhzjadzgg] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 03:28:24< Zerovirus> Reminds me of that one time I crawled into the sublayer above my classroom and waited there for fun. 20100525 03:28:35< PetePorty> some call him God, other Shadowmaster, other shikadilord, others father.... but he IS watching you 20100525 03:28:39< Christheturtle> Ceiling... Cat...? 20100525 03:28:47< Zerovirus> The teacher eventually dragged me down, but there was a ton of dust up there, and all this weird machinery and fans and stuff 20100525 03:29:07< Zerovirus> Ceiling Cat is watching you -REDACTED BY MINITRUE- 20100525 03:29:20< Christheturtle> What is Ceiling Cat? =OOO 20100525 03:29:22< PetePorty> : ( I always wanted to stay in a locker, like my friends, but I'm too big... 20100525 03:29:24< PetePorty> : ( 20100525 03:30:36< Gambit> Christheturtle: You don't know Cieling Cat?"! 20100525 03:30:46< Christheturtle> :( 20100525 03:30:50< Christheturtle> Is that bad? 20100525 03:30:52< Zerovirus> YES 20100525 03:30:56< Christheturtle> D: 20100525 03:31:03< Gambit> Christheturtle: http://www.lolcatbible.com/index.php?title=Genesis_1 20100525 03:31:37< Zerovirus> version .8a, kthxbai 20100525 03:32:02< Gambit> I iz bak bai duh wai. 20100525 03:32:09< Gambit> Supper wurz gud 20100525 03:32:12< Zerovirus> Yes we can tell 20100525 03:32:14< PetePorty> sorry guys... I'll have to leave...but... c ya arround! sleep well 20100525 03:32:22-!- PetePorty [~Pete@pc-33-54-120-200.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Quit: Saliendo] 20100525 03:32:35< Zerovirus> Darn it I didn't get to finish my farewell speech 20100525 03:33:02< Christheturtle> Oh my god this shit is hillarious! 20100525 03:33:32< Gambit> At start, no has lyte. 20100525 03:33:49< Gambit> An Ceiling Cat sayz, i can haz lite? An lite wuz. 20100525 03:34:07< Zerovirus> Yeeeah this is old news man :P 20100525 03:34:14< Gambit> An Ceiling Cat sawed teh lite, to seez stuffs, An splitted teh lite from dark but taht wuz ok cuz kittehs can see in teh dark An not tripz over nethin. 20100525 03:35:16< Christheturtle> Omg lol. 20100525 03:35:24< Christheturtle> No I'd heard of the lolcat shit 20100525 03:35:32< Christheturtle> But I didnt know an actual book had been made 20100525 03:35:59< Gambit> *translation. 20100525 03:36:17 * Gambit wants wesnoth in lolcat. 20100525 03:37:18< Christheturtle> Correction. 20100525 03:37:24< Christheturtle> Lolcat in Wesnoth. 20100525 03:37:37< Gambit> No. 20100525 03:37:40< Gambit> Wesnoth in lolcat. 20100525 03:37:46< Gambit> As if one might say Wesnoth in french. 20100525 03:37:50< Gambit> Or wesnoth in german 20100525 03:37:55< Gambit> or wesnoth is swahili. 20100525 03:37:59< Gambit> *in 20100525 03:38:07< Gambit> lolcat is a language 20100525 03:38:08< Gambit> ! 20100525 03:38:16< Zerovirus> Agh I can't speak Lolcat 20100525 03:38:20< Gambit> SHADOWMASTER DID IT! 20100525 03:38:57< Gambit> SHADOWMASTER MADE THE LANGUAGE! 20100525 03:39:20-!- bladenap is now known as blademeld 20100525 03:39:22< Zerovirus> Okay what 20100525 03:39:22< Christheturtle> Back in my serious geek days.. 20100525 03:39:27< Gambit> SHADOWMASTER BOMBED NAGASAKI! 20100525 03:39:29< Christheturtle> When I played WoW etc 20100525 03:39:34< Christheturtle> I spoke Lolcat all the time. 20100525 03:39:38< Zerovirus> Sing this to the Yankee Doodle theme :P 20100525 03:39:40< Christheturtle> It was just the done thing. :( 20100525 03:39:44< Zerovirus> Yankee doodle hates japan 20100525 03:39:47-!- nmmachado [~chatzilla@189.38.200.116] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20100525 03:39:48< Zerovirus> so he has made a cunning plan 20100525 03:39:52< Zerovirus> he will beat the japanese 20100525 03:39:58< Zerovirus> by bombing nagasaki 20100525 03:40:54-!- Zarel [~Zarel@warzone2100/developer/Zarel] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 03:41:06< Zerovirus> When nagasaki got nuked 20100525 03:41:11< Zerovirus> The Japanese went Oh Poop 20100525 03:41:25< Zerovirus> After that they couldn't go far 20100525 03:41:32< Zerovirus> They then lost the warrrrrr 20100525 03:41:41-!- Blueblaze [~irchon@166.133.232.179] has quit [Quit: Blueblaze] 20100525 03:42:11-!- ancestral [~ancestral@mobile-166-137-142-227.mycingular.net] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 03:43:03< Christheturtle> Where'd you hear that lawl? 20100525 03:43:42< Zerovirus> I wrote it 20100525 03:43:49< VurtualRuler98> You guys and your making-me-play-galaga, I screwed up horribly at the end after playing so perfectly that I nearly beat my high score. :( 20100525 03:43:49< Zerovirus> The second stanza was on the spot impromptu :P 20100525 03:43:55< Zerovirus> NOOOOOOOOO 20100525 03:44:02< Zerovirus> 不要 20100525 03:44:06< Zerovirus> DO NOT WANT 20100525 03:44:42< Christheturtle> Zero, where are you from? 20100525 03:45:01< ancestral> Planet X 20100525 03:45:06< Christheturtle> :O 20100525 03:45:46< Zerovirus> In other words China 20100525 03:46:03< Christheturtle> I might be moving to Tokyo in a year lawl. 20100525 03:46:05< Zerovirus> See, Wesnoth is totally multicultural 20100525 03:46:13< Zerovirus> Tokyo? Srsly? 20100525 03:46:14< VurtualRuler98> Why Tokyo? 20100525 03:46:17< Christheturtle> Business. 20100525 03:46:20< Zerovirus> Have you been there? It's on a scale with Bejing. 20100525 03:46:25-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy] 20100525 03:46:26< Zerovirus> It's like you live in a can of sardines. 20100525 03:46:34< VurtualRuler98> Tokyo's lame. Sure, Japan can be nice... but actually living there? 20100525 03:46:38< Zerovirus> Except the sardines all have tiny eyes and black hair. 20100525 03:46:47< Zerovirus> And the street signs are incomprehensible. 20100525 03:46:55< Christheturtle> Yeah, my company is paying for the flat.. £3,000 a month and it's only 150 square feet. 20100525 03:47:01< Zerovirus> And the sardines are actually trying to swim around. 20100525 03:47:06< VurtualRuler98> That's Japan for you. 20100525 03:47:07< Christheturtle> And I don't know the language lawl. 20100525 03:47:08< Zerovirus> While so compacted. 20100525 03:47:19< Zerovirus> Welp I don't speak Japanese, contrary to what many people of my school believe 20100525 03:47:20< Christheturtle> Hey It's worth it though! 20100525 03:47:23< Christheturtle> I get lots of moneyz. 20100525 03:47:24< VurtualRuler98> Best get that one chinese guy's super-compact home 20100525 03:47:28< Christheturtle> And it's only for a year. 20100525 03:47:34< Zerovirus> But Japanese ripped enough characters off Chinese that I can understand maybe half of it :P 20100525 03:48:02< VurtualRuler98> If I moved to Japan, it'd be like some kind of depressing version of The Beverly Hillbillies. 20100525 03:48:04< Zerovirus> I can get the gist of what the sentence is about, sometimes. But it's the difference between "Dog bite me" and "Me bite dog". 20100525 03:48:05< Christheturtle> I'm setting up a new department over there, putting the staff team in place, getting it off the ground and buggering off home. 20100525 03:48:19< Christheturtle> But it'll take like a year 20100525 03:48:21< Christheturtle> maybe longer. 20100525 03:48:29< Christheturtle> Good moniez Chris, good moniez 20100525 03:48:32< Christheturtle> That's my insentive. 20100525 03:48:33< Zerovirus> Be a dear and build an airbase on top of wherever you're live right? 20100525 03:48:39< Zerovirus> *living 20100525 03:48:43< Christheturtle> Okay. 20100525 03:48:55< VurtualRuler98> Remember, in Japan, doing more than you're expected of will get you fired. 20100525 03:49:06< Zerovirus> What? 20100525 03:49:13< Gambit> VurtualRuler98: No that's china. 20100525 03:49:15< VurtualRuler98> somebody said that to me once. 20100525 03:49:18< VurtualRuler98> actually a few people did. 20100525 03:49:19< Gambit> Japan encourages hard work. 20100525 03:49:22< Christheturtle> That makes no difference to me lawl. I'm not working for anyone over there. I'm the one making the department. 20100525 03:49:25< Gambit> Especially in children. 20100525 03:49:29< Zerovirus> I don't that's really true anywhere where economy works normally. 20100525 03:49:32-!- Zarel [~Zarel@warzone2100/developer/Zarel] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 20100525 03:49:33< Zerovirus> *Think 20100525 03:49:37< Zerovirus> Why did I forget the word think 20100525 03:50:08< Christheturtle> It's the reason I've got so much free time atm 20100525 03:50:15< Christheturtle> I just got back from Hong Kong doing the same thing 20100525 03:50:15< VurtualRuler98> Then again one of them was one of those people who acts quiet and hushed around anything involving Japanese culture, and thinks poorly of Ninja Warrior or whatever you're going to call it, just because it wasn't a win-money-gameshow thing. 20100525 03:50:18-!- Zarel [~Zarel@warzone2100/developer/Zarel] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 03:50:23< Christheturtle> Then Russia before then 20100525 03:50:29< Zerovirus> Oh hey Gambit, how long until summer for you? 20100525 03:50:40< Gambit> ~13 days 20100525 03:50:50< Gambit> *13 school days 20100525 03:50:55< ancestral> Japanese economy is a but fragile ATM, but it's more stable than in other Asia markets 20100525 03:51:13< Christheturtle> Yep. I don't got a great budget to start on either. 20100525 03:51:16< Christheturtle> Well no, its good enough 20100525 03:51:19< Zerovirus> I'll be done in ten days, and then we can get... To business. 20100525 03:51:21< Christheturtle> But its not like excellent 20100525 03:51:27< Zerovirus> Metallic steely business, if you get my drift. >:D 20100525 03:51:34< Gambit> Okay. 20100525 03:51:41< Gambit> I will put steelhive ahead of GEB. 20100525 03:51:43-!- un214 [~quassel@adsl-75-45-4-19.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 03:51:55-!- un214 [~quassel@adsl-75-45-4-19.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net] has left #wesnoth [] 20100525 03:52:03< Gambit> Aethaeryn is making a replacement for GEB anyway. 20100525 03:52:07 * Gambit hopes so anyway. 20100525 03:52:22-!- Zarel [~Zarel@warzone2100/developer/Zarel] has quit [Client Quit] 20100525 03:52:41< Christheturtle> I r brb smoke. 20100525 03:52:59< Zerovirus> You know someday someone's going to combine all the addons ever 20100525 03:53:14< Christheturtle> I'll do it me. 20100525 03:53:15< Christheturtle> brb 20100525 03:53:17< Zerovirus> GEB, All of Bob's stuff, uhh, Aethaeryn's cool WMLified maps, all the RPGs ever 20100525 03:53:20< Gambit> Zerovirus: It's called ageless era! 20100525 03:53:25< Gambit> oh... nevermind 20100525 03:53:29< Zerovirus> No, Ageless doesn't have all the cool stuff 20100525 03:53:35< Zerovirus> like maps and new gametypes :P 20100525 03:53:55< Gambit> I will stab that person in the eyeballs 20100525 03:53:59< Zerovirus> Oh and every single campaign EVER combined into a composite Expanded Wesnoth Universe timeline 20100525 03:54:06< Zerovirus> Like Starwars 20100525 03:54:10< Zerovirus> but actually cohesive to some extent 20100525 03:55:10 * ancestral has this planned: Web-based Unit Editor --> Ascension era --> Bestiary web site 20100525 03:55:20< Zerovirus> Web-based Unit Editor? 20100525 03:55:21< Zerovirus> :O 20100525 03:55:24< Zerovirus> I love you so much 20100525 03:55:42< ancestral> Work in progress… 20100525 03:56:18< Zerovirus> But when it is done I shall be able to make factions all on my own :3 20100525 03:56:21 * Gambit 's plan: School --> Steelhive --> GEB --> WML The Missing Manual --> WNBF --> Dynamica --> Back to school. 20100525 03:56:30< Zerovirus> ..The Missing Manual? 20100525 03:56:32< ancestral> Zerovirus: Yes! 20100525 03:56:50< Zerovirus> Hmm. I suppose I'll have to scan in my notes for the Revolutionary faction and show you guys. 20100525 03:56:59< Zerovirus> Composite of the elves, outlaws, and goblins 20100525 03:57:04< Zerovirus> in one communist-flavored bite 20100525 03:57:21< ancestral> Goblins are slaves? 20100525 03:57:28< Zerovirus> Not literally, 20100525 03:57:30< Gambit> Why do kids love commy swirl elfgoblin toast crunch? 20100525 03:57:31< Zerovirus> I mean in gameplay terms 20100525 03:57:59< Zerovirus> There are ninja elves, stealthy outlaws, brash lawful Revolutionaries and Bennermen and Scholars and Thinkers 20100525 03:58:06< Zerovirus> And then there's the Marauder and Mercenary line 20100525 03:58:08< Zerovirus> that captures slaves 20100525 03:58:10< Zerovirus> kinda like plague 20100525 03:58:29< Gambit> Zerovirus: Check out GEB's Slaver units for code for that. 20100525 03:58:34< Gambit> They can kidnap enemy peasants :D 20100525 03:58:38< Gambit> They don't have to kill them either. 20100525 03:58:40< Gambit> Just hit them. 20100525 03:58:51< Gambit> In fact the problem is they often accidentally kill the slaves. 20100525 03:58:58-!- mnewton1 [~ad4be68e@gateway/web/freenode/x-dncjfcujhzjadzgg] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20100525 03:59:02< Zerovirus> Eh, but for game balance I think plague rename works better...? I'll see... If I ever get around to it. 20100525 03:59:14< Zerovirus> Thinker=>Scholar=>Philosopher=>Revolutionary 20100525 03:59:21 * Zerovirus goes to get out his faction notes 20100525 03:59:53< Zerovirus> Actually it's Level 0 Rebel 20100525 03:59:56< ancestral> I always had this idea — a scenario/era in a fantastical setting in the British Isles 20100525 04:00:00< Zerovirus> which can upgrade to Militia or Thinker 20100525 04:00:07< Zerovirus> Militia can upgrade ot GUerrilla or Freedom FIghter 20100525 04:00:16< Zerovirus> Freedom FIghter upgrades to Revolutionary with stats similar to Elvish Champion 20100525 04:00:21< ancestral> Each culture would have it's own race 20100525 04:00:27< Zerovirus> Guerrilla upgrades to Commando with stats similar to elvish sharpshooter 20100525 04:00:43< Zerovirus> Meanwhile, Rebel => Thinker can become Scholar, Propagandist, or Bannerman 20100525 04:00:54< Zerovirus> Scholar is all-purpose generic magic-ranged unit 20100525 04:01:03< Zerovirus> Propagandist has negative leadership effect on enemy units 20100525 04:01:05< Christheturtle> Back 20100525 04:01:08< Zerovirus> Bannerman just has leadership 20100525 04:01:17< Zerovirus> Scholar upgrades to Revolutionary as well 20100525 04:01:26< Zerovirus> Propagandist upgrades to Demagogue, a better version of itself 20100525 04:01:37< Zerovirus> and Bannerman turns into Flagbearer, with lv3 leadership 20100525 04:01:37< Aethaeryn> Zerovirus: Unfortunately, the bug is still there. Of using WML-intense eras on WML-intense maps. 20100525 04:01:39< Christheturtle> Are you two starting a project or something? Because just for the record in about a month and a half I'm buying a kickass dedicated server 20100525 04:01:51< Zerovirus> Then there's the Lv0 Radical 20100525 04:01:56< Zerovirus> Which turns into a Terrorist or a Killer 20100525 04:02:02< Zerovirus> Terrorists are more like ulfs 20100525 04:02:06< Zerovirus> and Killers are like thiefs 20100525 04:02:06< Aethaeryn> http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=28160 20100525 04:02:15< Zerovirus> Terrorist upgrades into Fanatic and Anarchist 20100525 04:02:25< Zerovirus> Fanatic has higher health and a ranged attack 20100525 04:02:35< Zerovirus> but Anarchist has skirmish and negative leadership to enemies 20100525 04:02:37< ancestral> English would be human, Scots would be dwarven, Welsh would be elven? Cornish would be halfling/Hobbit… or something like that :P 20100525 04:02:46< Zerovirus> Killer turns into Murderer (can't be assassin sadly) 20100525 04:02:57< Zerovirus> And there's the Lv1 Agent, which upgrades into Spy and Subversive 20100525 04:03:08< Zerovirus> Spies can backstab, poison, and do all sorts of underhanded fun stuff 20100525 04:03:14< Zerovirus> Subversives can steal extra money from villages 20100525 04:03:24< Zerovirus> Spy upgrades into Operative, a better version 20100525 04:03:43< Zerovirus> Subversive upgrades into Saboteur, which can hide invillages and has a good ranged 20100525 04:03:47< Zerovirus> Then there's the Mercenary 20100525 04:04:01< Zerovirus> Which upgrades into Pillager, which can then upgrade into Marauder or Warlord 20100525 04:04:20< Zerovirus> Marauders are a bit weaker but faster, and have slow and fire 20100525 04:04:26< Zerovirus> But Warlords have awesome lv3 leadership 20100525 04:04:50< Zerovirus> All units of the Mercenary line can capture Lv0 captives by killing enemies. Captives upgrade to lv1 thralls, which are just about as useless. 20100525 04:05:01< Zerovirus> Mercenaries, of course, cost a crap-ton. 20100525 04:05:15< Zerovirus> They're the only units of the faction with good stats, everyone else is cheap and expendable until it levels 20100525 04:05:29< Zerovirus> And of course, since they're mercenaries, they cost like 23 gold to recruit 20100525 04:05:41 * Zerovirus goes for second page of notes 20100525 04:05:57 * Zerovirus wonders if anyone else is listening :P 20100525 04:07:38< Christheturtle> I am, sort of. 20100525 04:07:48< Zerovirus> Hm. 20100525 04:07:51< Christheturtle> IRC walls of text are nasty on the eyes. 20100525 04:07:53< Christheturtle> :( 20100525 04:08:02< Zerovirus> Anyways, do you guys want to keep listening to my datadump? 20100525 04:08:08< Christheturtle> And everyone missed my free offer. D: 20100525 04:08:13< Zerovirus> Actually I read it 20100525 04:08:18< Zerovirus> BUt I was too busy talking :P 20100525 04:08:21< Christheturtle> ^^ 20100525 04:08:30< Zerovirus> What are you going to do with a server? Host Wesnoth games on it? 20100525 04:08:37< Christheturtle> Just experimental. 20100525 04:08:42< Christheturtle> I got a lot of cash to spare. 20100525 04:08:47< Christheturtle> I used to do Emulation and stuff 20100525 04:08:53< Christheturtle> But it'll probally.. for now.. 20100525 04:09:04< Christheturtle> Just run an IRC server, an SQL database and various webservers. 20100525 04:09:11< Zerovirus> Ah. 20100525 04:09:14< Christheturtle> If you want the specs, tell me. Otherwise its wasted typing 20100525 04:09:38< Zerovirus> Eh... Not much I can do with a server. I know a few things that could do with a server, but they're all pretty much dead projects atm. 20100525 04:09:52-!- ancestral [~ancestral@mobile-166-137-142-227.mycingular.net] has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi] 20100525 04:10:08< Christheturtle> Well.. For the record the specs are.. 20100525 04:10:22< Christheturtle> CPU : 2 x Xeon Quad Core 2.13Ghz Nehalem 20100525 04:10:36< Christheturtle> RAM : 6GB Tri-Channel DDR3 20100525 04:10:48< Christheturtle> 2x HARD DRIVE : 500GB SATA 2 20100525 04:10:59-!- ancestral [~ancestral@97-116-112-18.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 04:11:04< Christheturtle> And unlimited bandwith on a 100mbps port 20100525 04:11:42< Christheturtle> Comes with 4 domain names of choice 20100525 04:11:51< Christheturtle> 24/7 backup and onsite management 20100525 04:12:13< ancestral> $/mo.? 20100525 04:12:17< Christheturtle> And various extra software bonuses. 20100525 04:12:17< Zerovirus> going to sleep now guys bai 20100525 04:12:20-!- Zerovirus [~62c45c53@gateway/web/freenode/x-boqjihhsrwjysuvp] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20100525 04:12:21< Christheturtle> $310 20100525 04:12:26< ancestral> Oof 20100525 04:12:29< ancestral> Worth it, I guess 20100525 04:12:32< Christheturtle> Aye 20100525 04:12:37< Christheturtle> Thats what I thought. 20100525 04:12:41< Christheturtle> But I'm gonna have like.. 20100525 04:12:42< ancestral> I mean, if you need it 20100525 04:12:49< Christheturtle> Spare everything. So if anyone needs some dedi room, tell me 20100525 04:12:53< Christheturtle> I've got the money 20100525 04:12:57< ancestral> Wowie 20100525 04:13:20< Christheturtle> It's more of a jesture of good will lol. 20100525 04:13:32< Gambit> Christheturtle: You should run a wesnoth server! 20100525 04:13:33< Christheturtle> I might run another WoW server on it too. But I doubt it. It takes so much time fixing bugs etc. 20100525 04:13:50< Christheturtle> Oh and FYI, I'll only be needing 2 of the 4 domain names 20100525 04:14:23-!- Blueblaze [~nick@adsl-99-182-52-253.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 04:14:32< Christheturtle> I don't know anything about running Wesnoth servers. 20100525 04:14:48< ancestral> I pay about $60 a year for budget hosting. 10 GB storage, 25 SQL dbs, 250GB monthly bandwifth 20100525 04:14:59< Gambit> There's a forbidden article on the wesnoth wiki all about it. 20100525 04:15:02< Christheturtle> You do get desktop access, right? 20100525 04:15:05< Christheturtle> Remote, ofc 20100525 04:16:23< Christheturtle> @ Ancestral, that was 20100525 04:18:15< Christheturtle> Well regardless 20100525 04:18:30< Christheturtle> Mine has Remote Desktop Access on a complete administrator account 20100525 04:18:42< Christheturtle> And then an online backup and reboot system for when shit goes wrong 20100525 04:19:42< Christheturtle> But the 24/7 onsite management thing is level 1, so if I called them up they'd have a dude at the server within 10 - 25 minutes to fix anything that might go horribly wrong 20100525 04:20:19< Christheturtle> I just have one problem 20100525 04:20:59< Christheturtle> I don't know which operating system to have. I have a choice between Linux (cant remember what version) or Windows Server Enterprise 2000 20100525 04:21:16< Christheturtle> Both the same price 20100525 04:21:19< Christheturtle> So i dunnpo 20100525 04:21:21< Christheturtle> dunno* 20100525 04:21:33-!- crimson_penguin [~ben@wesnoth/developer/crimsonpenguin] has quit [Quit: crimson_penguin] 20100525 04:21:34< Christheturtle> I learnt to manage servers on windows, but linux is more secure and stable really 20100525 04:21:44-!- Bob_The_Mighty [~chatzilla@cpc4-brig15-0-0-cust904.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401080539]] 20100525 04:21:55-!- crimson_penguin [~ben@wesnoth/developer/crimsonpenguin] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 04:23:01< Christheturtle> But back to the point, nobody wants to take me up on the offer? O.o 20100525 04:23:27< ancestral> What what do we do? 20100525 04:24:01< Christheturtle> Well, whatever. I'm offering a free domain name and access to the dedi lol. I'm not going to need all that space and the bandwith is irrelevant 20100525 04:24:25< Christheturtle> And for about 5 months I'm not going to be running any large scale project from it 20100525 04:26:31< Christheturtle> And there's no way anyone can screw me over either, as I can make multiple Remote Desktop accounts. 20100525 04:26:45< Christheturtle> The web reboot/backup access is mien though. >:D 20100525 04:27:12-!- TaylorSwift [~Taylor@222-155-72-45.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 04:30:12-!- TaylorSwift [~Taylor@222-155-72-45.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20100525 04:30:39-!- TaylorSwift [~Taylor@222-155-72-45.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 04:33:39-!- Zarel [~Zarel@warzone2100/developer/Zarel] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 04:35:01-!- Zarel [~Zarel@warzone2100/developer/Zarel] has quit [Client Quit] 20100525 04:42:02-!- churl [~churl@adsl-074-184-019-224.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #wesnoth 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Is that the way it is supposed to work? 20100525 12:43:29-!- KnThrak [~KnThrak@ip-109-90-33-182.unitymediagroup.de] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 12:43:48< Soliton> well, moremiru joined you, no? 20100525 12:45:43< sneakers> I guess 20100525 12:45:45< sneakers> Let me check 20100525 12:45:53< sneakers> Yea 20100525 12:45:59< sneakers> He did 20100525 12:46:28< sneakers> I wouldn't have realized that was my "special" bonus 20100525 12:46:31< sneakers> Thanks 20100525 12:47:45< Soliton> he's pretty special i'd say. 20100525 12:48:32< sneakers> Yea I had to go back and redo that scenario to get the bonus because I am having problems beating the siege of elensfar 20100525 12:48:58< sneakers> I thought it was going to be more gold or something but I am glad to have moremirmu 20100525 13:00:40< sneakers> evil dice rolls 20100525 13:00:46-!- sneakers [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/sneakers] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20100525 13:02:14-!- TaylorSwift [~Taylor@222-155-74-103.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [] 20100525 13:10:55-!- Fandekasp [~Fandekasp@c-69-181-24-41.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20100525 13:11:28-!- Fandekasp [~Fandekasp@c-69-181-24-41.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 13:13:59-!- Samwise [~Samwise@p57B194CA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 13:14:05-!- Samwise [~Samwise@p57B194CA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Client Quit] 20100525 13:41:37-!- Ken_Oh [~briang@static-71-178-174-220.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 13:44:29-!- SekoIdiootti [~chatzilla@cs148185.pp.htv.fi] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 13:50:06-!- thespaceinvader [~chatzilla@wesnoth/artist/thespaceinvader] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20100525 13:50:41-!- KnThrak [~KnThrak@ip-109-90-33-182.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20100525 14:00:13-!- Johannes13 [~Johannes@unaffiliated/johannes13] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 14:13:18-!- Queenie [~teodora@178.218.200.170] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20100525 14:14:56-!- DiRaven [~diraven@134-2-133-95.pool.ukrtel.net] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 14:15:18-!- DiRaven [~diraven@134-2-133-95.pool.ukrtel.net] has quit [Client Quit] 20100525 14:26:30-!- Queenie [~teodora@178.218.200.170] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 14:33:17< zookeeper> Ken_Oh, working on anything cool atm? 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20100525 16:38:21< zookeeper> i guess "[filter_wml] [status] hidden=yes" should work 20100525 16:38:44< zookeeper> unless you meant hidden as in if [hide_unit] has been used on it? 20100525 16:39:25< Ken_Oh> yeah, that's what i wanted, but i'm looking at a save file with a recently un-hidden unit and it says hidden="yes" 20100525 16:39:37-!- Queenie [~teodora@178.218.200.170] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20100525 16:40:00< Ken_Oh> so i assumed that wasn't it....i'll do some more tests 20100525 16:40:23< zookeeper> yeah, it might be that it doesn't always work 20100525 16:40:54-!- Unnheulu|Laptop [~ieuan@cpc5-pnth2-0-0-cust800.5-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 16:41:03-!- wesbot [~wesbot@wesnoth/bot/wesbot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20100525 16:41:05-!- DiRaven [~diraven@223-164-133-95.pool.ukrtel.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20100525 16:41:55-!- Unnheulu|Laptop [~ieuan@cpc5-pnth2-0-0-cust800.5-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Client Quit] 20100525 16:42:00< zookeeper> how about [if] [insert_tag] name=have_unit variable=unit.abilities.hides.filter_self [/insert_tag]? :P 20100525 16:42:18< zookeeper> (incomplete, but you get the idea) 20100525 16:42:45< Ken_Oh> hah, i got ya. ok, i'll play around with it. 20100525 16:43:05< zookeeper> in some cases that'd actually work. depends on how the ability filters are written, so basically whether you're using core abilities or your own custom ones. 20100525 16:43:27< zookeeper> although it could be made to work with core ones too, you'd just need to add a filter for not-adjacent-to-enemy 20100525 16:44:55-!- Unnheulu|Laptop [~ieuan@cpc5-pnth2-0-0-cust800.5-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 16:45:13< Ken_Oh> right 20100525 16:45:34< Ken_Oh> the most relevent ability is a homemade one, so that might be the best bet 20100525 16:47:53-!- wesbot [~wesbot@wesnoth/bot/wesbot] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 16:51:11< Unnheulu|Laptop> wesbot, hi! 20100525 16:51:14< Unnheulu|Laptop> wesbot, hi 20100525 16:51:18< Unnheulu|Laptop> wesbot: hi 20100525 16:51:24< Unnheulu|Laptop> Hi wesbot 20100525 16:51:28< Unnheulu|Laptop> wesbot, help 20100525 16:51:28< wesbot> Unnheulu|Laptop: I could tell you about bug(s), feature(s), task(s), patch(es), a log revision, update the topic, last seen of people... you name it. 20100525 16:51:32< Unnheulu|Laptop> wesbot, hello 20100525 16:51:32< wesbot> Unnheulu|Laptop: Aiya Unnheulu|Laptop 20100525 16:51:36< Unnheulu|Laptop> W00t 20100525 16:52:19< Rhonda> I think I'll disable that, given that you go to lengths to trigger it and fill half a screen worth of log. 20100525 16:52:58< Unnheulu|Laptop> Sorry :/ 20100525 16:53:20< Unnheulu|Laptop> Although, that might just be counter-intuitive, causing me to go to greater lengths before realising^^ 20100525 16:54:58-!- Gambit [~Gambit@pa-67-234-73-7.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 16:55:04< Unnheulu|Laptop> Rhonda, would it be better if I pmed wesbot, or would that end up annoying you? 20100525 16:55:10< Ken_Oh> wesnoth bugs 20100525 16:55:15< Ken_Oh> wesbot bugs 20100525 16:55:17< wesbot> Ken_Oh: 113 bugs found, which one do you want? 20100525 16:55:18-!- KnThrak [~KnThrak@ip-109-90-33-182.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20100525 16:55:21< Unnheulu|Laptop> 'ello Gambit 20100525 16:55:27< Unnheulu|Laptop> wesbot, bugs 123 20100525 16:55:31< wesbot> Unnheulu|Laptop: it would annoy _me_ 20100525 16:55:31< Unnheulu|Laptop> wesbot, bugs 102 20100525 16:55:38< Gambit> haha 20100525 16:55:39 * Unnheulu|Laptop smirks 20100525 16:55:59< Gambit> Unnheulu|Laptop: our bug numbers are up in the 10s of thousands I think. 20100525 16:56:06< Gambit> our/their/the 20100525 16:56:07< Unnheulu|Laptop> Ah 20100525 16:56:24< Unnheulu|Laptop> wesbot, bugs 10000 20100525 16:56:24< Gambit> GNA's bug numbers span many projects. 20100525 16:56:31< Unnheulu|Laptop> bah 20100525 16:56:36< Unnheulu|Laptop> wesbot, bug 10000000000 20100525 16:56:37< wesbot> Unnheulu|Laptop: Are you sure with that number? Please check again... 20100525 16:56:38< Gambit> wesbot: bugs 16075 20100525 16:56:45< Unnheulu|Laptop> wesbot, 16075 20100525 16:56:49< Unnheulu|Laptop> wesbot, bug 16075 20100525 16:56:49< wesbot> Bug #16075 Assigned to: None Status: None Priority: 5 - Normal 20100525 16:56:49< wesbot> Summary: next_scenario=null make wesnoth crash for player 2 in multiplayer campaigns 20100525 16:56:52< wesbot> Original submission: If you put "next_scenario=null" in the last level of a mu 20100525 16:56:55< wesbot> ltiplayer campaign, for player 2 the game crash. To reproduce, download the simp 20100525 16:56:58< wesbot> URL: https://gna.org/bugs/?16075 20100525 16:57:01< wesbot> Attached file (1st): https://gna.org/bugs/download.php?file_id=9207 20100525 16:57:03 * wesbot slaps Unnheulu|Laptop with a cluebat. That's a single bug, not multiple of them 20100525 16:57:54< Unnheulu|Laptop> wesbot, bug 1 20100525 16:57:54< wesbot> Unnheulu|Laptop: Are you sure with that number? Please check again... 20100525 16:57:57< Unnheulu|Laptop> Bah 20100525 16:58:00< Unnheulu|Laptop> wesbot, bug 2 20100525 16:58:00< wesbot> Unnheulu|Laptop: Are you sure with that number? Please check again... 20100525 16:58:03< Unnheulu|Laptop> wesbot, bug 3 20100525 16:58:03< wesbot> Unnheulu|Laptop: Are you sure with that number? Please check again... 20100525 16:58:05< Unnheulu|Laptop> wesbot, bug 4 20100525 16:58:05< wesbot> Unnheulu|Laptop: Are you sure with that number? Please check again... 20100525 16:58:07< Unnheulu|Laptop> wesbot, bug 5 20100525 16:58:07< wesbot> Unnheulu|Laptop: Are you sure with that number? Please check again... 20100525 16:58:08< Unnheulu|Laptop> wesbot, bug 6 20100525 16:58:08< wesbot> Unnheulu|Laptop: Are you sure with that number? Please check again... 20100525 16:58:10< Unnheulu|Laptop> wesbot, bug 7 20100525 16:58:10< wesbot> Unnheulu|Laptop: Are you sure with that number? Please check again... 20100525 16:58:12< Unnheulu|Laptop> wesbot, bug 8 20100525 16:58:13< wesbot> Unnheulu|Laptop: Are you sure with that number? Please check again... 20100525 16:58:14< Unnheulu|Laptop> wesbot, bug 9 20100525 16:58:14< Gambit> wesbot: bug 15861 20100525 16:58:15< wesbot> Unnheulu|Laptop: Are you sure with that number? Please check again... 20100525 16:58:18< wesbot> Bug #15861 Assigned to: Yurii Chernyi Status: In Progress Priority: 5 - Normal 20100525 16:58:19< Unnheulu|Laptop> wesbot, bug 10 20100525 16:58:21< wesbot> Summary: RCA Ignores "passive_leader" 20100525 16:58:22< Unnheulu|Laptop> Aww 20100525 16:58:23< wesbot> Original submission: The new AI seems to ignore the passive_leader keyword. If 20100525 16:58:26< wesbot> you start a passive_leader not on a keep it will move itself to one. It didn't 20100525 16:58:29< wesbot> URL: https://gna.org/bugs/?15861 20100525 16:58:31< Gambit> That one needs fixed. 20100525 16:58:32< wesbot> Unnheulu|Laptop: Are you sure with that number? Please check again... 20100525 16:58:39 * Unnheulu|Laptop hits wesbot 20100525 16:58:41< Gambit> It breaks mainline campaigns. 20100525 16:58:56< Gambit> and the tutorial :'( 20100525 16:59:06< Gambit> mah tooturiyl 20100525 16:59:11< Unnheulu|Laptop> So that would explain why I can't win Bad Moon Rising scenario 2! 20100525 16:59:36< Unnheulu|Laptop> Or LoW scenario 1 >.> 20100525 16:59:44< Gambit> Unnheulu|Laptop: No you just suck. 20100525 16:59:46< Gambit> :P 20100525 16:59:55< Unnheulu|Laptop> Probably true 20100525 17:00:17 * Unnheulu|Laptop is strumming a ukulele randomly :/ 20100525 17:01:05< Gambit> Unnhulu? :P 20100525 17:01:09< Gambit> *Unnhula 20100525 17:01:20< Unnheulu|Laptop> ? 20100525 17:04:01< Kenpachi> lol 20100525 17:05:01< Gambit> Unnheulu|Laptop: Hula 20100525 17:05:05< Gambit> hawaii 20100525 17:05:08< Gambit> ukulele 20100525 17:06:10< SekoIdiootti> I thought you said "kawaii" first. xD 20100525 17:06:27< Ken_Oh> zookeeper: FYI, if i go into the HttT and save the game from the start, every unit in there shows hidden="yes", sounds like a bug to me. 20100525 17:08:27< zookeeper> right 20100525 17:08:56-!- DiRaven [~diraven@223-164-133-95.pool.ukrtel.net] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 17:11:03-!- Zarel [~Zarel@warzone2100/developer/Zarel] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 20100525 17:18:22-!- Unnheulu|Laptop [~ieuan@cpc5-pnth2-0-0-cust800.5-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 20100525 17:27:32-!- Gambit|Laptop [~quassel@pa-67-234-73-7.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 17:37:34-!- Sacho [~sacho@213.91.244.15] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20100525 17:39:26-!- Laogeodritt [~Laogeodri@bas2-stlambert20-1279499568.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 17:39:26-!- Laogeodritt [~Laogeodri@bas2-stlambert20-1279499568.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Changing host] 20100525 17:39:26-!- Laogeodritt [~Laogeodri@wikipedia/Laogeodritt] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 17:44:12-!- Unnheulu|Laptop [~ieuan@cpc5-pnth2-0-0-cust800.5-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 17:46:26< Unnheulu|Laptop> I do love a good cup of tea... 20100525 17:57:09-!- Johannes13_ [~Johannes@unaffiliated/johannes13] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 17:58:30-!- Cyber_Rock [~Ankit@unaffiliated/cyber-rock/x-7112426] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 18:00:29-!- Johannes13 [~Johannes@unaffiliated/johannes13] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20100525 18:03:07-!- Zarel [~Zarel@warzone2100/developer/Zarel] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 18:04:20-!- Christheturtle [~yeti-of-d@5e0efac7.bb.sky.com] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 18:08:07-!- martin_ [~martin@g228216195.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 18:09:01-!- Gambit|Laptop [~quassel@pa-67-234-73-7.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20100525 18:13:12< Unnheulu|Laptop> Hallo 20100525 18:13:23< Unnheulu|Laptop> Christheturtle, your very verbose on the forums :) 20100525 18:14:48< Unnheulu|Laptop> Ugh, /me hates hot summers 20100525 18:15:33< Gambit> ACTION hates cold winters. 20100525 18:15:45< Gambit> Acutally I guess that'd be ACTION #wesnothxp hates cold winters. 20100525 18:16:00< Gambit> Or is it? 20100525 18:16:04< Unnheulu|Laptop> Is there actually any coding going into wesnothxp? 20100525 18:16:12< Gambit> Unnheulu|Laptop: Yes. 20100525 18:16:19< Unnheulu|Laptop> All I can see is thousands upon thousands of rng threads 20100525 18:16:30< Unnheulu|Laptop> Which is part of the reason I *don't care* about it anymore 20100525 18:16:43< Gambit> Unnheulu|Laptop: They have coded a system that allows multiple RNG algorithms to be loaded. 20100525 18:16:53< Gambit> The user can pick one in preferences 20100525 18:17:01< Gambit> Default, saurons, karma, etc. 20100525 18:17:23< Unnheulu|Laptop> I'm just getting sooooo bored by all the billions of threads 20100525 18:17:26< Gambit> So yeah people are discussing a lot of different RNG algorithms. 20100525 18:17:30< Gambit> Only like 5.. 20100525 18:17:36< Gambit> And actually that would have been 20100525 18:17:40< Unnheulu|Laptop> (Incase you didn't know, a million is 1000x1000) 20100525 18:17:41< Gambit> ACTION #wesnoth hates cold winters. 20100525 18:18:05< Gambit> Unnheulu|Laptop: 2 brazillion men died yesterday in a bombing. 20100525 18:18:20< Unnheulu|Laptop> Cool? 20100525 18:18:54< Gambit> brazilian 20100525 18:19:07< Unnheulu|Laptop> Yeah... 20100525 18:19:15< Gambit> nevermind. You don't get it. 20100525 18:19:18< Unnheulu|Laptop> No... 20100525 18:19:23< Gambit> Or if you do, it's not funny. 20100525 18:19:26< Gambit> :'( 20100525 18:20:40< Unnheulu|Laptop> 1,000,000x1,000,000 is a billion 20100525 18:20:50< Gambit> Erm... 20100525 18:20:55< Unnheulu|Laptop> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/birmingham/10152226.stm 20100525 18:20:59< Gambit> one million times one thousand is one billion. 20100525 18:21:21< Unnheulu|Laptop> no 20100525 18:21:28< Unnheulu|Laptop> one million times one million is one billion 20100525 18:21:35< Unnheulu|Laptop> You Americans are sooooo thick :P 20100525 18:22:00< Gambit> :\ 20100525 18:22:05< Gambit> Unnheulu|Laptop: no. 20100525 18:22:43< Unnheulu|Laptop> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_and_short_scales 20100525 18:22:52-!- Fandekasp [~Fandekasp@c-69-181-24-41.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: bye bye] 20100525 18:23:23< Gambit> one million times one million would be twelve 0's. 20100525 18:23:33 * Unnheulu|Laptop nods 20100525 18:23:39< Unnheulu|Laptop> That equals one billion 20100525 18:23:46< Gambit> no 20100525 18:23:55< Unnheulu|Laptop> Yep 20100525 18:23:59< Gambit> That's 1 trillion. 20100525 18:24:25< Unnheulu|Laptop> thespaceinvader, back me up here, eh? 20100525 18:24:32< Gambit> Unnheulu|Laptop: Can you really not multiply or is there a punchline here? 20100525 18:24:37< Unnheulu|Laptop> Gambit, 1,000,000x1,000,000=billion 20100525 18:24:41< Gambit> no 20100525 18:24:50< Unnheulu|Laptop> Gambit, no, it is simply you Americans are thick to world culture 20100525 18:24:53< Gambit> 1,000,000,000 = billion 20100525 18:25:02< Gambit> 1,000,000,000,000 = trillion 20100525 18:25:04< Unnheulu|Laptop> Because, 1,000,000x1,000,000 is a billion 20100525 18:26:48< Gambit> Unnheulu|Laptop: so what's 1,000,000,000? 20100525 18:26:54< Gambit> one thousand million? 20100525 18:26:58< Unnheulu|Laptop> Yup 20100525 18:27:00< Gambit> No thanks. 20100525 18:27:11< Unnheulu|Laptop> It goes up to 999thousand,999million 20100525 18:27:17< Gambit> I'll count normally thanks. 20100525 18:27:26< Unnheulu|Laptop> *999 thousand and 999, million 20100525 18:27:33< Unnheulu|Laptop> Add one is one billion 20100525 18:27:43< Unnheulu|Laptop> Gambit, that is the normal way of counting 20100525 18:27:50< Gambit> No. 20100525 18:27:51< Unnheulu|Laptop> You Americans are just ignorant :) 20100525 18:27:59< Gambit> You shouldn't have to apply more than two large multipliers. 20100525 18:28:07< Gambit> *more than one? 20100525 18:28:18< Unnheulu|Laptop> A trillion is one number higher than: 20100525 18:28:24< Gambit> Any system that makes things unneccesarily long is not good. 20100525 18:28:29< Unnheulu|Laptop> 999million, 999thousand, and 999 20100525 18:28:32< sevis> Nine hundred ninety-nine thousand million, nine hundred and ninety-nine thousand, nine hundred and ninety-nine? Sounds awful. 20100525 18:28:33< Gambit> Unless it's WML. 20100525 18:28:54< Unnheulu|Laptop> Oops, I said that wrong 20100525 18:29:02< Unnheulu|Laptop> 999thousand million and 999 20100525 18:29:11< Gambit> Unnheulu|Laptop: actually the way you said it was right :P 20100525 18:29:27< Gambit> 999,999,999 is one shy of a billion :P 20100525 18:29:47< Unnheulu|Laptop> 999,999,999,999 is one off :P 20100525 18:30:01< Unnheulu|Laptop> Wait 20100525 18:30:09< Unnheulu|Laptop> Erm, this hurts my head 20100525 18:30:24< Gambit> Unnheulu|Laptop: No fake! 20100525 18:30:26< Unnheulu|Laptop> (It's higher than 999,999,999,999 I'm sure) 20100525 18:30:38< Gambit> Why do you think we use the new system? 20100525 18:30:44< Unnheulu|Laptop> Gambit, US BRITS COUNT DIFFERENTLY TO YOU CULTURE CONFUSED AMERICANS! 20100525 18:30:44< Unnheulu|Laptop> :P 20100525 18:30:51< Gambit> NO YOU DON'T 20100525 18:31:00< Gambit> You've used our system for years already. 20100525 18:31:18< Gambit> Well the brits have anyways. 20100525 18:31:24< Gambit> Not the welsh. 20100525 18:31:26< Unnheulu|Laptop> I haven't ._. 20100525 18:31:28< Gambit> That have silly milliards. 20100525 18:31:36< Unnheulu|Laptop> milliwm 20100525 18:31:44< Unnheulu|Laptop> Learn our language at least -.- 20100525 18:31:55< Gambit> 10^9 = 1 milliard. 20100525 18:32:08< Gambit> Russia too :o 20100525 18:32:40< Gambit> Yes we're ignorant. 20100525 18:32:55< Unnheulu|Laptop> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jedi_census_phenomenon 20100525 18:32:55< Gambit> But why bother to learn something obsolete and inferior? 20100525 18:32:59< Gambit> You said it yourself. 20100525 18:33:01< Unnheulu|Laptop> People are demanding we learn that in school 20100525 18:33:04< Gambit> It made your head hurt. 20100525 18:33:09< Unnheulu|Laptop> Its not inferior :P 20100525 18:33:17< Unnheulu|Laptop> It allows higher numbers more easily^ 20100525 18:33:18< Unnheulu|Laptop> ^^ 20100525 18:33:23< Gambit> HAHA 20100525 18:33:30< Gambit> jedi census 20100525 18:33:33< Gambit> I wanna do that. 20100525 18:34:22< Gambit> o_O 20100525 18:34:22< Gambit> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jediism 20100525 18:34:50< Gambit> Wow. 20100525 18:34:56< Gambit> Someone is pulling a massive prank on wikipedia. 20100525 18:35:35< Unnheulu|Laptop> Gambit, scroll to the bottom of the census phenomenon page 20100525 18:35:43< Unnheulu|Laptop> Where it describes scotland 20100525 18:36:02-!- KnThrak [~KnThrak@ip-109-90-33-182.unitymediagroup.de] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 18:36:48< Unnheulu|Laptop> In November 2006, two self-proclaimed Jedi wearing Star Wars robes and a third person disguised as a Wookiee demanded that the UN change the "International Day of Tolerance" to "Interstellar Day of Tolerance".[9] 20100525 18:36:50< Unnheulu|Laptop> Pure win 20100525 18:37:07< Gambit> The Office of National Statistics revealed the total figure in a press release entitled "390,000 Jedis there are". 20100525 18:40:13-!- eyerouge [~snowdrop@c-d290e355.247-29-64736c16.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 18:42:03-!- Fandekasp [~Fandekasp@c-69-181-24-41.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 18:44:08-!- Fandekasp [~Fandekasp@c-69-181-24-41.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20100525 18:49:20-!- DiRaven [~diraven@223-164-133-95.pool.ukrtel.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20100525 18:50:17< Unnheulu|Laptop> Silence 20100525 18:50:25< Unnheulu|Laptop> It burns! 20100525 18:51:53< sevis> It truly makes the most beautiful musc 20100525 18:51:57< sevis> music* 20100525 18:52:12< Unnheulu|Laptop> I'm listening to the wesnoth music right now :/ 20100525 18:55:54 * Gambit turns up the silence. 20100525 19:01:12-!- KnThrak [~KnThrak@ip-109-90-33-182.unitymediagroup.de] has left #wesnoth [] 20100525 19:01:28-!- DiRaven [~diraven@223-164-133-95.pool.ukrtel.net] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 19:08:57-!- Unnheulu|Laptop [~ieuan@cpc5-pnth2-0-0-cust800.5-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 20100525 19:09:08< Zarel> lol 20100525 19:09:16< Zarel> the guy behind me was like "anyone can edit it" 20100525 19:09:24< Zarel> And so I thought he was talking about Wikipedia. 20100525 19:09:32< Zarel> But then I turned around and he was talking about Google Docs. :P 20100525 19:14:25 * Gambit can't hear you over the silence. :o 20100525 19:14:40< Gambit> <3 google docs 20100525 19:15:00< Gambit> It's great for making calendars for groups 20100525 19:15:07-!- Nabo00o [~naboo_ws@227.84-48-53.nextgentel.com] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 19:15:12-!- Nabo00o [~naboo_ws@227.84-48-53.nextgentel.com] has left #wesnoth [] 20100525 19:15:23< Gambit> That was fa... quik. 20100525 19:15:36< Gambit> *quick 20100525 19:15:49-!- Unnheulu|Laptop [~ieuan@cpc5-pnth2-0-0-cust800.5-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 19:17:00-!- mnewton1 [~ad4be68e@gateway/web/freenode/x-rjvywmpeiqmaruob] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 19:18:41-!- mnewton1 [~ad4be68e@gateway/web/freenode/x-rjvywmpeiqmaruob] has quit [Client Quit] 20100525 19:19:36-!- SekoIdiootti [~chatzilla@cs148185.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401080539]] 20100525 19:20:57-!- martin_ [~martin@g228216195.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20100525 19:31:08-!- unimatrix0_ [~unimatrix@adsl-074-236-057-188.sip.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 19:34:41-!- unimatrix0 [~unimatrix@adsl-074-236-057-188.sip.mia.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20100525 19:34:41-!- unimatrix0_ is now known as unimatrix0 20100525 19:35:45-!- unimatrix0_ [~unimatrix@adsl-074-236-057-188.sip.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 19:36:53-!- unimatrix0__ [~unimatrix@adsl-074-236-057-188.sip.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 19:39:16-!- unimatrix0 [~unimatrix@adsl-074-236-057-188.sip.mia.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20100525 19:39:16-!- unimatrix0__ is now known as unimatrix0 20100525 19:40:34-!- unimatrix0_ [~unimatrix@adsl-074-236-057-188.sip.mia.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20100525 19:41:31-!- unimatrix0_ [~unimatrix@adsl-074-236-057-188.sip.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 19:42:27-!- unimatrix0__ [~unimatrix@adsl-074-236-057-188.sip.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 19:43:12< Gambit> unimatrix0__: internet troubles? 20100525 19:43:52-!- unimatrix0___ [~unimatrix@adsl-074-236-057-188.sip.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 19:45:31-!- unimatrix0 [~unimatrix@adsl-074-236-057-188.sip.mia.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20100525 19:45:31-!- unimatrix0___ is now known as unimatrix0 20100525 19:45:45-!- unimatrix0_ [~unimatrix@adsl-074-236-057-188.sip.mia.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20100525 19:46:28< thespaceinvader> Unnheulu|Laptop: much as I would have preferred the british definition of billion to be the worldwide one, it isn't 20100525 19:46:33< thespaceinvader> gambit is correct here 20100525 19:46:44-!- martin___ [~martin@g228216195.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 19:47:01-!- Unnheulu|Laptop [~ieuan@cpc5-pnth2-0-0-cust800.5-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 20100525 19:47:10-!- unimatrix0__ [~unimatrix@adsl-074-236-057-188.sip.mia.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20100525 19:48:21-!- Blueblaze [~nick@adsl-99-182-52-253.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 19:50:18< Gambit> I'd be all for renaming them to methillion, ethilllion, propillion, butillion, pentillion, hexillion 20100525 19:50:36-!- Necrosporus [~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20100525 19:50:52< Gambit> same with n-gons 20100525 19:51:00< sevis> Yes! :D 20100525 19:51:15< Gambit> triangle->propagon 20100525 19:51:27< Gambit> line->ethagon 20100525 19:51:31< Gambit> square->butagon 20100525 19:51:43< Gambit> pentagon->pentago 20100525 19:51:46< Gambit> *pentagon 20100525 19:51:50-!- Necrosporus [~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 19:52:00< sevis> No, a line isn't a polygon, and shouldn't be called so. 20100525 19:52:16< Gambit> methane isn't technically a carbon chain. 20100525 19:52:44< Gambit> which reminds me 20100525 19:52:47< Gambit> dot->methagon 20100525 19:52:59< sevis> It's a carbon molecule with formula fitting CnH2n+n. 20100525 19:53:04< sevis> 2n+2* 20100525 19:53:16< sevis> a dot and a line have very little in common with polygons. 20100525 19:55:34< Gambit> What else can we rename to fit with the IUPAC nomenclature of organic chemistry? 20100525 19:56:16< sevis> Why should we rename them? 20100525 19:57:05< Gambit> Because it's awesome! 20100525 19:57:19< Gambit> and having just one thing to remember = good 20100525 19:57:35< Gambit> ethacycle! 20100525 19:57:41< Gambit> propacycle! 20100525 19:57:46< Gambit> methacycle at the circus. 20100525 19:58:02< sevis> A butocore computer... Hm. 20100525 19:58:05< sevis> buta* 20100525 19:58:14< Gambit> motorethacycle 20100525 19:58:23< Gambit> car -> motorbutacycle 20100525 20:02:31< Gambit> big rig -> motoroctodecacycle 20100525 20:02:49< sevis> Human? 20100525 20:04:16< Gambit> ethepedal 20100525 20:04:53< sevis> Not specific enough, I'd say. Birds could be considered that, too. 20100525 20:05:06< Gambit> Human doesn't have a number in it though. 20100525 20:05:42< sevis> Still, humans themselves are just bunches of numbers. 20100525 20:05:57 * Gambit googles "chemical formula for a human" :P 20100525 20:06:08< sevis> 2,2-diarm-1,1-dileg-3-methahead? 20100525 20:06:29< Gambit> CE27HE27OE27NE26PE25SE24CaE25KE24ClE24NaE24MgE24FeE23FE23ZnE22SiE22CuE21BE21IE20SnE20MnE20SeE20CrE20NiE20MoE19CoE19VE18 20100525 20:08:13-!- mich- [~michele@host165-195-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 20:08:38-!- Christheturtle [~yeti-of-d@5e0efac7.bb.sky.com] has quit [Disconnected by services] 20100525 20:08:47-!- Laogeodritt [~Laogeodri@wikipedia/Laogeodritt] has quit [] 20100525 20:09:30-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 20:09:34-!- Christheturtle1 [~Christhet@5e0efac7.bb.sky.com] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 20:10:28< Christheturtle1> Wassup all. 20100525 20:10:44< Gambit> My blood pressure :o 20100525 20:10:57< Christheturtle1> Oooh, nice. 20100525 20:11:31< noy> what's up? dumb forum posts apparently. 20100525 20:12:00< Gambit> noy: How dumb? 20100525 20:12:35< Christheturtle1> Scale of 1 - 10? 20100525 20:13:18-!- Unnheulu|Laptop [~ieuan@cpc5-pnth2-0-0-cust800.5-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 20:13:27< Gambit> Christheturtle1: We're talking spinaltap dumbness here! 20100525 20:13:56< Christheturtle1> Christheturtle1? O.o 20100525 20:13:58< noy> don't spread the idiocity here please gambit 20100525 20:17:42-!- Christheturtle1 [~Christhet@5e0efac7.bb.sky.com] has left #wesnoth [] 20100525 20:18:57-!- Christheturtle [~Christhet@5e0efac7.bb.sky.com] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 20:31:05-!- Unnheulu|Laptop [~ieuan@cpc5-pnth2-0-0-cust800.5-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 20100525 20:38:15-!- DiRaven [~diraven@223-164-133-95.pool.ukrtel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20100525 20:47:08-!- martin___ [~martin@g228216195.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20100525 20:48:42-!- Zarel [~Zarel@warzone2100/developer/Zarel] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 20100525 20:49:35-!- martin_ [~martin@g228216195.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 20:50:01-!- Valkier [~IceChat7@c-174-55-104-2.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 20:51:24-!- mich- [~michele@host165-195-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has left #wesnoth [] 20100525 20:53:26-!- Kenpachi [~chatzilla@CPE-139-168-192-244.lns1.way.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20100525 21:02:52-!- sneakers [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/sneakers] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 21:03:50< sneakers> Does this mean I will start with defined min start gold or defined min start gold minus 175 gold? http://green.land.hailmail.net/wesnoth.png 20100525 21:04:02< sneakers> minus 70 I mean. 20100525 21:07:22-!- phlaem [~a@e178088107.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 21:17:47< Christheturtle> I think the defined min start gold minus 70. 20100525 21:19:08-!- Unnheulu|Laptop [~ieuan@cpc5-pnth2-0-0-cust800.5-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 21:19:19< sneakers> Oh okay, I guess I will add a enhancement request for that 20100525 21:19:36-!- elias [~elias@allegro/developer/allefant] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 21:21:50< sneakers> I wonder how long it takes for account pending on gna.org 20100525 21:33:43-!- Elvish_Pillager [~eli@71-10-224-192.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 21:35:53-!- fendrin [~fabi@wesnoth/developer/fendrin] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20100525 21:36:01-!- Zarel [~Zarel@warzone2100/developer/Zarel] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 21:38:10-!- fendrin [~fabi@wesnoth/developer/fendrin] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 21:47:17< Unnheulu|Laptop> Zarel, why is warzone 2100 so confusing? :( 20100525 21:47:39< Zarel> I don't know. :( 20100525 21:49:01< zookeeper> sneakers, it means the minimum gold. 20100525 21:49:21< zookeeper> and actually the dialog was changed to that exactly so that it wouldn't be confusing... 20100525 21:49:37< noy> its not confusing Unnheulu|Laptop 20100525 21:49:43< noy> its a decent game 20100525 21:49:58< noy> I think its probably just as, or maybe a little more difficult than wesnoth 20100525 21:50:12< Unnheulu|Laptop> I found wesnoth and xmoto infinitely simpler to learn 20100525 21:50:26< Unnheulu|Laptop> (And supertux, but, that's kinda obvious I guess) 20100525 21:51:11< zookeeper> i tried warzone 2100 for like a couple of minutes until i got fed up with the interface 20100525 21:51:21< zookeeper> i might try it again sometime 20100525 21:51:38< noy> Well I find its not that bad... I'm almost done the game after playing it slowly for a month 20100525 21:52:01< sneakers> zookeeper, So the "Remaining Gold" and the "Bonus Gold" are to be ignored? 20100525 21:52:12< noy> I think it could use strong direction in development 20100525 21:52:33< sneakers> Or only to be ignored if it falls below zero? 20100525 21:52:53< zookeeper> sneakers, yeah. you never get negative carryover gold in any form. 20100525 21:53:17< Unnheulu|Laptop> I've had -8 before 20100525 21:53:19< zookeeper> in that particular dialog i suppose the bonus gold line could be omitted 20100525 21:53:27< sneakers> zookeeper, okay thanks 20100525 21:53:31< Unnheulu|Laptop> Unless your specifically about one campaign 20100525 21:53:43-!- Unnheulu|Laptop [~ieuan@cpc5-pnth2-0-0-cust800.5-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 20100525 21:53:59< sneakers> The bonus being negative sort of threw me off I suppose 20100525 21:54:26< sneakers> But the last sentence is pretty clear. I was just wondering if it actually meant what it said. Good to know that it does. 20100525 21:56:01-!- Queenie [~teodora@178.218.200.170] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 22:01:19-!- Ken_Oh [~briang@static-71-178-174-220.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20100525 22:01:29-!- sneakers [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/sneakers] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20100525 22:01:59-!- Queenie_ [~teodora@178.218.207.136] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 22:03:23-!- Queenie [~teodora@178.218.200.170] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20100525 22:03:47< Gambit> http://forums.wesnoth.org/download/file.php?id=41122 20100525 22:03:52< Gambit> ^ awesomeness 20100525 22:11:53-!- Cyber_Rock [~Ankit@unaffiliated/cyber-rock/x-7112426] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20100525 22:13:50-!- eyerouge [~snowdrop@c-d290e355.247-29-64736c16.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20100525 22:18:23-!- Laogeodritt [~Laogeodri@bas2-stlambert20-1279499568.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 22:18:23-!- Laogeodritt [~Laogeodri@bas2-stlambert20-1279499568.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Changing host] 20100525 22:18:23-!- Laogeodritt [~Laogeodri@wikipedia/Laogeodritt] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 22:26:52-!- Queenie_ is now known as Queenie 20100525 22:38:07-!- Christheturtle is now known as Christheturtle|A 20100525 22:38:35-!- Christheturtle|A is now known as Christt|AFK 20100525 22:48:02-!- Zarel [~Zarel@warzone2100/developer/Zarel] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 20100525 22:56:36-!- Christt|AFK is now known as Christheturtle 20100525 23:03:49-!- Samwise [~Samwise@p57B194CA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 23:03:50-!- Samwise [~Samwise@p57B194CA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Client Quit] 20100525 23:04:04-!- Christheturtle is now known as Christt|AFK 20100525 23:16:37-!- vjoe [~vjoe@client-86-25-160-143.mcr-bng-013.adsl.virginmedia.com] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 23:24:21-!- Johannes13_ [~Johannes@unaffiliated/johannes13] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20100525 23:33:48-!- Zarel [~Zarel@warzone2100/developer/Zarel] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 23:33:56< Zarel> I'm nervous about the Kalifa naming. 20100525 23:34:15< Zarel> The scheme is either "made-up word" or "word from foreign language", I can't tell which. 20100525 23:34:39< Zarel> But the end result is the same - a lot of words that are nonsense to English speakers. 20100525 23:34:57< Zarel> We generally try to avoid things like that. 20100525 23:34:58-!- DiRaven [~diraven@223-164-133-95.pool.ukrtel.net] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 23:35:04< Valkier> And this is different from other games, how? 20100525 23:35:24< Zarel> Valkier: http://xkcd.com/483/ 20100525 23:35:42< Zarel> Other games generally don't make up that many words. 20100525 23:35:55< Valkier> So I suppose books from Glenn Cook are bad. 20100525 23:35:59< Zarel> "sword of krytosius" is fine. 20100525 23:36:03< Zarel> "krytos" is bad idea 20100525 23:36:34< Zarel> Having some words that are made up or whatever is good for establishing mood. 20100525 23:36:56< Zarel> Having too many of them will interfere with comprehension (or in the case of games, usability/playability) 20100525 23:37:10< Valkier> Well, a better use of our energies would be to figure out names that you think would work better. 20100525 23:37:30< Valkier> To my knowledge, the Kalifa aren't exactly set in stone. A good enough suggestion would probably be welcome. 20100525 23:37:43< Zarel> "Mamluk", not good name. "Mamluk Rider", decent. 20100525 23:38:00< Zarel> Enough made-up words for flavor, not too much that you can't figure out what the unit is supposed to be. 20100525 23:38:00< Valkier> All right 20100525 23:38:14< Valkier> Well just go post the name suggestions. ^_^ 20100525 23:38:16< Zarel> Stuff like that. 20100525 23:38:22< Valkier> I'm sure if nothing else it would be considered. 20100525 23:38:50< Zarel> I mean, even the drakes, which are far out on the "exotic" scale, still have names that make sense. 20100525 23:39:32-!- ilor_ [~ilor@wesnoth/developer/ilor] has joined #wesnoth 20100525 23:40:32< Zarel> Valkier: Do you know if the names are actually made up? 20100525 23:40:49< zookeeper> Zarel, join the club. i've been complaining about that too ;) 20100525 23:40:50< Zarel> Or are they transliterations of words from a Middle-Eastern language? 20100525 23:41:06< zookeeper> i _think_ they're transliterations of some sort, but i'm not sure 20100525 23:41:25< zookeeper> noy? 20100525 23:41:53-!- DiRaven [~diraven@223-164-133-95.pool.ukrtel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20100525 23:42:01-!- ilor [~ilor@wesnoth/developer/ilor] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20100525 23:47:59< Valkier> I really have no idea. 20100525 23:48:49< thespaceinvader> zarel: they're being renamed, noy will be working on that and descriptions over the summer 20100525 23:49:04< thespaceinvader> i;m using the current names to work on the art, cos i don't have anything else yes 20100525 23:49:28< thespaceinvader> i;m reasonably sure the current ones are transliterations of eithe rarabic or persian, but i'm not by any means certain 20100525 23:49:31< Zarel> thespaceinvader: Sure, wait until I'm halfway through writing a post on why they should be renamed. :P 20100525 23:49:56< thespaceinvader> yep :D 20100525 23:50:58-!- martin_ [~martin@g228216195.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20100525 23:51:09< Zarel> But yeah, at most, one or two things that aren't names of places, people, or races should be made up. 20100525 23:51:09-!- elias [~elias@allegro/developer/allefant] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20100525 23:51:26< Zarel> For instance, for Tolkein, that word was "Nazgul". 20100525 23:52:31-!- zookeeper [~l@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [] 20100525 23:52:48< Zarel> Everywhere else, the made-up words were either names of one of the above, or were clarified - "Eye of Mordor", "Riders of Rohan", "Tower of Cirith Ungol" 20100525 23:53:11< Zarel> Enough to give flavor, while not needing the reader to memorize a huge list of what was what. 20100525 23:54:05< Zarel> It also makes prose smoother - "Riders of Rohan" is easier to say than "Rohan, a group of horse riders" 20100525 23:54:36< VurtualRuler98> And it sounds cooler. 20100525 23:55:11< Zarel> Yeah, that's what I meant by "smoother". :P 20100525 23:55:20< VurtualRuler98> "we are a group of horse riders! Feaaar uuusssss!" 20100525 23:56:21< Zarel> And later, when you say "The Rohan are coming" 20100525 23:56:34< Zarel> The reader has to go flip through the book, maybe consult an index, to remember who they are. 20100525 23:57:17< VurtualRuler98> Then a puzzled confusion turns to undying horror, as the dreaded GROUP OF HORSE RIDERS is on their way. 20100525 23:57:21-!- Miccoh [~Miccoh@hoasnet-fe1fdd00-57.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #wesnoth --- Log closed Wed May 26 00:00:37 2010