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20100526 00:11:31< PetePorty> Hi
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20100526 00:23:02< |||> O.o
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20100526 00:23:37< Guest29019> :)
20100526 00:24:03< noy> Zarel: I've been working on that with someone familar with the era
20100526 00:24:19< Zarel> noy: I heard. :)
20100526 00:24:43< noy> shadowmaster: around?
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20100526 00:25:46< noy> Zarel the use of the names isn't really that different from the english naming convention
20100526 00:26:00< noy> Ghulam basically means slave.
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20100526 00:26:16< Zarel> noy: Well, most people don't speak [Arabic or whatever language it is]
20100526 00:26:20< Zarel> So to them, it's effectively gibberish.
20100526 00:26:35< thespaceinvader> zarel: you probably know about this one, but: http://xkcd.com/483/
20100526 00:26:39< Valkier> Zarel: So people will have to expand their horizons.
20100526 00:26:50< Zarel> thespaceinvader: I linked to it a few minutes ago. ;)
20100526 00:27:07< thespaceinvader> ah so you did
20100526 00:27:13< noy> So whats the alternative Zarel ?
20100526 00:27:14< thespaceinvader> clearly i did not scroll up far enough
20100526 00:27:16< Zarel> noy: I think "gladiator" would be a nice translation of "ghulam"
20100526 00:27:18< noy> Khalifate Fighter?
20100526 00:27:28< noy> Khalifate Sargent?
20100526 00:27:29< Zarel> Khalifate Gladiator?
20100526 00:27:42< noy> Khalifate Horse archer?
20100526 00:27:50< thespaceinvader> the difficulty is that it's going to be really dull if we just use the same set of boring names we've used elsewhere
20100526 00:27:50< noy> Its just more of the same
20100526 00:27:56< noy> exactly
20100526 00:28:04< Zarel> Valkier: People can do that without having to memorize a whole bunch of words.
20100526 00:28:07< thespaceinvader> and we;re running out of english synonyms for stuff like ;fighter' and 'scout'
20100526 00:28:10< Zarel> Ghulam Gladiator, for instance.
20100526 00:28:24< Zarel> Gets across both the "flavor" word and the idea of what the unit actually is.
20100526 00:28:54< noy> Zarel: I disagree... its just bland and boring
20100526 00:28:58< noy> we're using the same name. 
20100526 00:29:03< noy> over and over
20100526 00:29:27< noy> Playing with the new names takes a bit of practice, but people get it pretty quickly
20100526 00:29:43< noy> and the flavour makes the faction better. 
20100526 00:30:09< Zarel> I don't know. To me, it feels like "a little kid just thought of the idea of making up words was really cool, so he made up a bunch of words for this faction"
20100526 00:30:18< Zarel> That's the impression I get from it, really.
20100526 00:30:19< |\|o> Champion Combatant
20100526 00:30:39< noy> Thats you, however the names are derived from the history of the era and their modeled units. 
20100526 00:30:44< Zarel> Now, I realize that's not true, but I feel that's what it comes off as.
20100526 00:31:02< |\|o> Maven?
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20100526 00:31:43< noy> Like the progression of Amir (which is lord) goes to Mubizaren (a greater lord) to Khalid (Great hero)
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20100526 00:32:19< Zarel> "Amir" - "Greater Amir"?
20100526 00:33:04< PeterPorty> what about derebeyi?
20100526 00:33:05< noy> Or thats boring
20100526 00:33:17< Zarel> No it's not.
20100526 00:33:20< PeterPorty> means overlord...
20100526 00:33:39< PeterPorty> just saying...
20100526 00:33:47< Zarel> Like, having a bunch of words that all sound like gibberish, _that's_ boring.
20100526 00:34:04< Zarel> Sure you're a scholar, you like learning new words. But to throw them at a gamer without any sort of context?
20100526 00:34:22< PeterPorty> maybe savaşçı?
20100526 00:34:24< noy> They can read the descriptions for the units
20100526 00:34:38< Zarel> Even Pokemon, you can guess what they're like from their names.
20100526 00:34:45< Zarel> And for good reason.
20100526 00:35:01< PeterPorty> we don't want to be like pokemon
20100526 00:35:03< Zarel> That, and their unit graphics are bigger. ;)
20100526 00:35:13< noy> This ain't pokemon, I'm aiming for a little bit deeper intellectual interaction than that game
20100526 00:35:17< Zarel> PeterPorty: If we don't want to be like pokemon, we should be using _less_ made-up names.
20100526 00:35:27< noy> THESE AREN'T MADE UP NAMES
20100526 00:35:35< PeterPorty> exactly
20100526 00:35:35< Zarel> THESE ARE TO THE VAST MAJORITY OF USERS
20100526 00:35:39< noy> Most of them are derived from ACTUAL fighting types
20100526 00:35:43< noy> Well good for them
20100526 00:35:57< Zarel> I can stand a bit of elitism in Wesnoth, but not _that_ much. :|
20100526 00:36:08< PeterPorty> if people can't read a description, they suck, if they cant open google, they suck
20100526 00:36:15< PeterPorty> I don't like suckers
20100526 00:36:17< noy> And the people who will appreciate it are the people who I'm actually would care
20100526 00:36:28< noy> Aka people who are muslim. 
20100526 00:36:31< PeterPorty> exactly
20100526 00:36:34< PeterPorty> -.-
20100526 00:36:45< noy> You level a amir into a Khalid... 
20100526 00:36:46< PeterPorty> I thought you meant smart/intellectual people
20100526 00:36:52< noy> I'd appreciate that
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20100526 00:37:35< Zarel> Yes, well, that's still at the expense of everyone else.
20100526 00:37:38< noy> they would too, but one thing I am careful about is keeping this close to its historical source so we avoid blandness and other issues. 
20100526 00:37:57< noy> Not really, they quickly learn about it. 
20100526 00:38:14< noy> and the unit descriptions will give a very good explaination of their use
20100526 00:38:22< noy> with Unique unit names 
20100526 00:38:44< noy> If we had two factions and this was the third, maybe I'd be a bit more ammenable to using generic names
20100526 00:38:46< noy> we
20100526 00:38:59< Zarel> 14 words to memorize is way beyond reasonable.
20100526 00:39:07< PeterPorty> no it's not
20100526 00:39:24< noy> we're at seven now with this. There are other Gladiators in the game already (drake one for example) so really you're already retreading names.
20100526 00:39:25< PeterPorty> a 1st grader needs to learn 30 for his quiz tomorrow
20100526 00:39:50< Zarel> PeterPorty: And that first grader probably wouldn't do it if it wasn't schoolwork, would he?
20100526 00:40:00< Zarel> Wesnoth is not edutainment.
20100526 00:40:10< PeterPorty> he would, he'd just take longer
20100526 00:40:35< PeterPorty> and theres nothing bad in throwing a little culture into people
20100526 00:40:40< Zarel> Well, the simpler way to let someone remember it is to combine it with a word they do recognize.
20100526 00:40:56< PeterPorty> nope
20100526 00:41:05< Zarel> "Ghulam Rider" is throwing a little culture into people.
20100526 00:41:06< PeterPorty> thats making up stuff
20100526 00:41:11< Zarel> "Ghulam" is throwing a little elitism into people.
20100526 00:41:14< noy> Why use gladiator, when there is already a perfectly good arabic word for it... (Muzbariz)
20100526 00:41:28< noy> Yeah, thats not the name that it will be changed to
20100526 00:41:34< Valkier> Not sure of a three part movie is really Elitism.
20100526 00:41:42< PeterPorty> Ghulam + a good description = perfect
20100526 00:41:54< Zarel> ...
20100526 00:42:25< Gambit> The Khalifa names aren't anymore ambiguous than the drake ones.
20100526 00:42:46< Gambit> With the exception of drake fighter
20100526 00:42:49< PeterPorty> on the other hand, I'd like to know why "Ekim"?
20100526 00:42:50< Zarel> Erm, the drake ones are ridiculously clear in comparison.
20100526 00:43:12< Zarel> "Clasher" sounds like a melee fighter, "Burner" sounds like a unit that breathes fire...
20100526 00:43:30< noy> Ekim is healer
20100526 00:43:36< Gambit> they all breathe fire!
20100526 00:43:47< Gambit> except one
20100526 00:43:48< Zarel> Gambit: Only one of 'em makes a career out of it. ;)
20100526 00:44:03< Gambit> People will learn the names.
20100526 00:44:18< PeterPorty> sure, you can immediatle know that "Flameheart" means a dragon who uses blades and breathes fire and has leadership
20100526 00:44:22< Zarel> People can learn a few names, especially if you combine them with English words that can give hints to what they mean.
20100526 00:44:55< Zarel> But if you're just going to make a name and say "Go memorize this"... why?
20100526 00:45:00< Gambit> If they can't pick up 8-10 new vocabulary term they're either too young or WAY too old to grasp a strategy game anyway.
20100526 00:45:14< Gambit> Zarel: Lore.
20100526 00:45:24< Gambit> World building.
20100526 00:45:31< Zarel> Gambit: That's not a reason.
20100526 00:45:39< Zarel> You can have just as much lore if you combine them with English words.
20100526 00:45:41 * Gambit will actually be quite interested to see how they get squeezed into canon.
20100526 00:45:50< Gambit> *into a cannon :o
20100526 00:46:54< noy> When I started with this project like five years ago, we had an idea of how to fit them in
20100526 00:47:34< Zarel> Meh, I'm going to argue on the forums, later.
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20100526 00:47:36< noy> They live in the desert with a few small cities, but with many nomadic groups. 
20100526 00:47:48< PeterPorty> Lets ask someone who clearly wont take sidees ok? and that is the final answer, I suggest we ask Gambot
20100526 00:48:01< noy> PeterPorty: umm, no.
20100526 00:48:18< PeterPorty> : (
20100526 00:48:30< noy> Why does it need to "go to someone else?"
20100526 00:48:38< Gambit> Indeed.
20100526 00:48:40< PeterPorty> just saying
20100526 00:49:01< PeterPorty> I dunno, I feel like we are overwhelming Zarel
20100526 00:49:04< noy> If Zarel doesn't like it, thats his problem. If hundreds of people don't like it, then thats mine and he was right. 
20100526 00:49:13< PeterPorty> ok...
20100526 00:49:17< PeterPorty> just saying....
20100526 00:49:28< Gambit> (imo) The developers like idea. The developers are doing  the work. The developers get to choose.
20100526 00:50:02< PeterPorty> ok ,ok... jeeze
20100526 00:50:12< Gambit> Plus Gambot doesn't exist anymore.
20100526 00:50:43< Gambit> It doesn't matter what we think. If we dislike it we can not play them.
20100526 00:50:51< PeterPorty> lol
20100526 00:50:57< Gambit> And we can kick people who pick them in the MP lobby (no. just kidding.)
20100526 00:51:02< PeterPorty> juust found something funny
20100526 00:51:27< PeterPorty> muzbariz
20100526 00:51:45< PeterPorty> muz=banana bariz=sharp
20100526 00:51:52< PeterPorty> sharp banana
20100526 00:51:57< PeterPorty> : D
20100526 00:52:03< Gambit> In what language?
20100526 00:52:24< PeterPorty> uh.....wait
20100526 00:52:49< PeterPorty> turkish
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20100526 00:56:44< PeterPorty> and  an is mooment
20100526 00:56:57< PeterPorty> so sharp banana moment!
20100526 00:57:17< PeterPorty> OMG!!!!!
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20100526 00:57:58< Gambit> Speaking.
20100526 00:58:23< PeterPorty> Franbot...
20100526 00:58:32< Gambit> Meh. That would have been much funnier if I were shadowmaster.
20100526 00:59:15< PeterPorty> told me Gambot... she said... she said he was dead!
20100526 00:59:54< Gambit> PeterPorty: off topic.
20100526 01:00:07< Gambit> [/hypocriticism]
20100526 01:00:13< PeterPorty> ...
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20100526 01:02:31< Gambit> Zarel: I have a question. Around?
20100526 01:04:21< Zarel> Am
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20100526 02:39:57< Bzar> Are any of the devs in here?
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20100526 02:41:18< Espreon> Bzar: #wesnoth-dev is out sanctum.
20100526 02:41:44< Bzar> ...out sanctum?
20100526 02:41:49< Espreon> *our
20100526 02:41:56< Bzar> ah
20100526 02:42:03 * Espreon wasn't paying attention to the output
20100526 02:42:08< Bzar> haha it's okay
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20100526 03:12:25< Zerovirus> Sooo bored, anyone want to play a quick MP match?
20100526 03:12:42< Christheturtle> Zero.
20100526 03:12:52< Zerovirus> Yes that's my name
20100526 03:12:52< Christheturtle> Ohai thar.
20100526 03:12:59< Zerovirus> Well hai to u too 
20100526 03:13:16< Valkier> Howdy
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20100526 03:13:28< Christheturtle> I might take you up on that. I'm telling you, if I see another line of Python or C++ in the next 6 hours.. It's noose + stairs time.
20100526 03:13:48< Zerovirus> Eh, I'll just make a game now.
20100526 03:13:51< Bzar> print "hello world"
20100526 03:14:06< Bzar> ^python
20100526 03:14:29 * Christheturtle dies.
20100526 03:14:37< Christheturtle> Well, Python 3 (which I use)..
20100526 03:14:43< Christheturtle> It would be print ('Hello World')
20100526 03:14:56< Christheturtle> Look what you made me do!
20100526 03:15:02< Bzar> =(
20100526 03:15:04< Bzar> I'm sorry!
20100526 03:15:08< Bzar> Please don't go upstairs!
20100526 03:15:18< Christheturtle> D=
20100526 03:15:22< Bzar> But if it's any consolation, I'll be seeing a lot of python this summer
20100526 03:15:29< Bzar> Learning it and implementing a game with it using pygame
20100526 03:16:15< Christheturtle> Ahhh. :) I made a fullscreen 2d space invader game a week ago or so. But with some cool extras. :)
20100526 03:16:53< Bzar> Extras? =O
20100526 03:17:01< Christheturtle> At the moment... I'm starting the mammoth task of porting Wesnoth to Android. It's the first thing I've ever done in Python for someone else. I web design freelance, but I only ever use Python personally.
20100526 03:17:13< Bzar> Ahhh okay
20100526 03:18:09< Christheturtle> I'll probably use some Java too. But I dun liekz Java. :<
20100526 03:18:12< Zerovirus> Aaaanyways how about that MP round?
20100526 03:18:38< Bzar> I have a whole class dedicated to Java next semester =3 sounds like fun
20100526 03:18:42< Bzar> (not)
20100526 03:19:22< Christheturtle> Sure Zero, lemme just pop for a smoke quickly.
20100526 03:19:49< Zerovirus> I'll set up the game.
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20100526 03:21:32< Zerovirus> Game is set up now
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20100526 03:28:16< Zerovirus> Christheturtle: Still there?
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20100526 03:30:09< Christheturtle> I am now.
20100526 03:30:19< Christheturtle> Sorry I'm a bit all over the place, I've got a meeting tommorow lawl.
20100526 03:30:37< Christheturtle> I just need to quickly sort something and I'll be with you, sorry dude.
20100526 03:30:56 * Zerovirus nods
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20100526 03:34:06< Christheturtle> Right, I'll just flick on the laptop and I'll be in the lobby in a moment.
20100526 03:36:33< Christheturtle> I'm in.
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20100526 03:43:56< PetePorty> O.o
20100526 03:45:50< Christheturtle> o.O
20100526 03:50:27< PetePorty> O.o
20100526 03:50:32< PetePorty> 0.o
20100526 03:50:37< PetePorty> O0
20100526 03:50:42< PetePorty> OMG
20100526 03:51:05< Christheturtle> O_O
20100526 03:51:42< PetePorty> the capital letter 'O' and the number '0' display the same on my monitor
20100526 03:51:54< PetePorty> damn chat! this is the end of the world!
20100526 03:54:25< Christheturtle> Why do they display the same? O.o You changed font or something?
20100526 03:54:30< PetePorty> nope
20100526 03:55:06< PetePorty> but try to type the capital "o" and the number "0" together, I get O0
20100526 03:55:16< PetePorty> and they look the same for me, dunno for you
20100526 03:56:24< PetePorty> k, I'm going to bed, c ya guys, sleep weell.
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20100526 04:18:50< un214> I just realized a day ago it would be easy for me to cheat on MP
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20100526 04:23:53< Christheturtle> O'rly?
20100526 04:24:07< un214> yeah
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20100526 04:43:13< Gambit> It is really easy to cheat in MP.
20100526 04:46:08< Gambit> As long as you're the host.
20100526 04:46:31< Valkier> yup
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20100526 11:45:53< Valkier> Howdy
20100526 11:46:06< Jarkko> Hello
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20100526 16:06:03< Christheturtle> Has anyone seen the new Robin Hood film? I'm off to the cinema too see it today.
20100526 16:07:28-!- Gambit is now known as PeteBob
20100526 16:07:29< Ivanovic> not me
20100526 16:07:38< Ivanovic> was in the cinema yesterday to watch prince of persia
20100526 16:07:44< Ivanovic> that one was well done though
20100526 16:08:10< Christheturtle> Yeah, I've heard it is pretty epic.
20100526 16:08:20-!- PeteBob is now known as Gambit
20100526 16:08:48< Ivanovic> due to the theme and the "jumping around roofs" it feels a lot like "assassins creed gone movie"
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20100526 16:10:15< Christheturtle> I played Prince of Persia when it first came out on the PS2 ages ago. The dagger of time or something.
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20100526 16:10:30< Christheturtle> Was pretty cool. Could rewind like 5 seconds or something before you die.
20100526 16:11:02< Christheturtle> Unless you don't do it in time, then you'd die.
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20100526 16:15:25< Ivanovic> yeah, stuff like this is included in the movie, too
20100526 16:15:34< zookeeper> urgh, i can't imagine the PoP movie being good.
20100526 16:15:50< Ivanovic> zookeeper: it was really okay
20100526 16:16:11< Ivanovic> feels a lot like the assassins creed game, where you jump over roofs and all this stuff
20100526 16:17:00< zookeeper> ...
20100526 16:17:07< zookeeper> which sounds like a cheap lame movie for kids
20100526 16:17:24< Christheturtle> Nawh, there is some good reviews.
20100526 16:17:30< Christheturtle> It's meant to be good.
20100526 16:17:54< zookeeper> meh, the trailer makes it look bad and that's quite enough for me. i'm going to watch robin hood tomorrow though.
20100526 16:18:05< zookeeper> that actually looks like it'll probably be good
20100526 16:18:13< Christheturtle> I'm watching it today. :)
20100526 16:18:17< Christheturtle> The trailer looks epix.
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20100526 16:19:20 * Gambit wants to see the A-Team movie.
20100526 16:19:35< Gambit> Even if they totally mess it up.
20100526 16:19:42< Christheturtle> MY MOHAWK GRENADE!
20100526 16:19:56< Gambit> Christheturtle: No.
20100526 16:20:01< Christheturtle> :(
20100526 16:20:08< zookeeper> with ridley scott and russell crowe it at least can't be bad
20100526 16:20:11< Gambit> Mr. T is no longer a member of the A-Team cast.
20100526 16:20:13< Cyber_Rock> is there any way we can replace the game soundtracks with ones of our choice
20100526 16:20:16< Christheturtle> :O
20100526 16:20:21< Gambit> He didn't go to George's funeral!
20100526 16:20:26< Gambit> He doesn't go to the reunions!
20100526 16:20:35< Gambit> He's a jerk.
20100526 16:20:38< Christheturtle> SO!
20100526 16:20:41< Christheturtle> It's Mr.T!
20100526 16:20:51< Cyber_Rock> anyone please
20100526 16:20:59< Gambit> Cyber_Rock: I think if you put the music files in the music folder
20100526 16:21:03< Gambit> and edit the music macro
20100526 16:21:06< zookeeper> Cyber_Rock, of course it's possible
20100526 16:21:15< Christheturtle> Check out the Wiki. :)
20100526 16:22:36< Gambit> Dwight will be in the movie <3
20100526 16:22:57< Gambit> For like 5 seconds :\
20100526 16:23:28< Cyber_Rock> i use linux and i didn't see any article related to that in wiki
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20100526 16:25:21< zookeeper> overwrite the music files with some of your own and that's it
20100526 16:25:30< Christheturtle> It's that simple.
20100526 16:25:32< zookeeper> if you want to do something else then that's a different matter
20100526 16:26:35< Cyber_Rock> that's the problem .. i can't seem to locate the music files
20100526 16:26:44< Cyber_Rock> what is the default path
20100526 16:27:04< Unnheulu|Laptop> What os?
20100526 16:27:04< zookeeper> wesnoth/data/core/music/
20100526 16:27:12< Cyber_Rock> f 11
20100526 16:28:38< Cyber_Rock> is that path .wesnoth/data/
20100526 16:28:51< Unnheulu|Laptop> Nope
20100526 16:29:04< Unnheulu|Laptop> On Linux it'll be /usr/local/share/wesnoth/data/core/music
20100526 16:29:21< Unnheulu|Laptop> (or /usr/share/games/wesnoth)
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20100526 16:37:04< Cyber_Rock> what was being said... there was a power outage
20100526 16:37:13< Unnheulu|Laptop> Nothing
20100526 16:38:26< Gambit> Cyber_Rock: Did you get: (10:28:56 AM) Unnheulu|Laptop: On Linux it'll be /usr/local/share/wesnoth/data/core/music
20100526 16:38:27< Gambit> ?
20100526 16:38:52< Unnheulu|Laptop> That was the last thing said before you left
20100526 16:39:00< Cyber_Rock> btw the path is ./usr/share/wesnoth/data/core/music in fedora 11
20100526 16:39:03< Gambit> Unnheulu|Laptop: Yeah but freenode pings every 2 seconds.
20100526 16:39:09< Gambit> And then it's 2 more seconds for a timeout
20100526 16:39:14< Gambit> IIUC.
20100526 16:39:22< Cyber_Rock> Gambit: i got that
20100526 16:39:33< Gambit> So he might have been gone 4 seconds before he left.
20100526 16:39:39< Gambit> Cyber_Rock: Okay. Just making sure.
20100526 16:39:39< Unnheulu|Laptop> Cyber_Rock, what? It's in your home folder?
20100526 16:39:57< Gambit> Glad you found it.
20100526 16:40:03< Cyber_Rock> no usr/share/wesnoth/data/core/music
20100526 16:40:22< Unnheulu|Laptop> Oh ok :P
20100526 16:40:26< Gambit> *200 more XD
20100526 16:40:45< Gambit> meh my numbers were way off there.
20100526 16:40:51< Gambit> Anywho...
20100526 16:41:01< Unnheulu|Laptop> Cyber_Rock, j/w, are you able to get a resolution above 800x600 on fedora?
20100526 16:41:17< Gambit> I guess if you replace seconds with minutes it's much closer.
20100526 16:41:24< Cyber_Rock> never tried... my machine is a little slow
20100526 16:41:28< Unnheulu|Laptop> Last time I tried it limited me to that 'cause I needed restricted drivers
20100526 16:41:48< Gambit> Unnheulu|Laptop: So just get the third party drivers :\
20100526 16:42:05< Unnheulu|Laptop> Gambit, Fedora makes that veeeeery hard
20100526 16:42:06< Gambit> s/third party/proprietary/
20100526 16:42:21< Cyber_Rock> it is 1024x768
20100526 16:42:22< artisticdude> You can't get a resolution higher than 800x600? :/
20100526 16:42:37< Cyber_Rock> my current resolution i.e.
20100526 16:42:41< Unnheulu|Laptop> That was Fedora 8 or 9 or something
20100526 16:42:46< Gambit> artisticdude: Your big green guy is awesome.
20100526 16:42:47< Unnheulu|Laptop> :P
20100526 16:42:58< artisticdude> Thanks. :)
20100526 16:43:00 * Gambit whispers "better than zerovirus"
20100526 16:43:03< Gambit> shhh
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20100526 16:43:33< artisticdude> I don't know about that, but that's a pretty big compliment. Thanks.
20100526 16:43:38< Gambit> Zarel: It's parsing urls correctly now.
20100526 16:43:45< Gambit> *encoding
20100526 16:43:50< Cyber_Rock> Unnheulu|Laptop: i have seen that nvidia drivers are easy to download
20100526 16:43:53< Gambit> Man I just can't speak correctly today.
20100526 16:44:00< Christheturtle> Ohai artisticdude.
20100526 16:44:27< artisticdude> hi
20100526 16:45:35< artisticdude> I'm thinking of trying to do some art for mainline, but I just can't summon the courage to do so.
20100526 16:45:53< artisticdude> My last attempts didn't go... so well...
20100526 16:46:37< Unnheulu|Laptop> Heh
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20100526 16:47:58< artisticdude> I checked up on that OSARE project and he's going to add menu and map interaction in the next release. It looks like it will turn out to be something truly unique (and the graphics are awesome for a FOSS game).
20100526 16:48:50< Unnheulu|Laptop> It makes me even more depressed looking at the tiny progress made in my own game recently in comparison
20100526 16:49:40< artisticdude> You're making a game?
20100526 16:49:58< Unnheulu|Laptop> Mmhmm
20100526 16:50:11< artisticdude> What kind of game?
20100526 16:50:14< Unnheulu|Laptop> http://www.jonespenarth.me.uk/~ieuan/Amazolia-11.png
20100526 16:50:25< Unnheulu|Laptop> RTT, although scripts will allow RTS scenarios
20100526 16:51:14< Christheturtle> Nice, looks a lot like Wesnoth though. O.o
20100526 16:51:23< Unnheulu|Laptop> Hehe
20100526 16:51:38< artisticdude> Interesting... is it a strategy game like Wesnoth?
20100526 16:51:45< Christheturtle> I make the odd game in Python.
20100526 16:51:50< Unnheulu|Laptop> Kinda, but real-time
20100526 16:51:52< Christheturtle> Tends to be crappy fullscreen games though.
20100526 16:52:23< artisticdude> I wish I could make a game. I'm a programming-illiterate. :(
20100526 16:52:30< Unnheulu|Laptop> Christheturtle, that is actually coded in python, for now
20100526 16:52:53< Christheturtle> Oh really? Well if you need any help, give me a call. :)
20100526 16:53:08< Unnheulu|Laptop> D'ya know C++?
20100526 16:53:32< Christheturtle> Nope, I'm a C++ 'dropout'.
20100526 16:53:35< Unnheulu|Laptop> Cause its only in python until the C++ port has all the same features as it
20100526 16:54:21< Christheturtle> Oh, well then I guess I wont really be needed lawl. Mind if I take a look at the source?
20100526 16:54:45< Unnheulu|Laptop> That's another reason I'm porting now, the code is ugly as f*ck
20100526 16:55:24< Unnheulu|Laptop> Some of the code is left over from when I first coded a tbs game, some of it is left over from when I changed to an rpg, and its been through 2 or 3 major rewrites
20100526 16:55:51< Unnheulu|Laptop> But, if you want to see it, I guess I could upload a tarball
20100526 16:56:15< Christheturtle> That would be good. :) I'll brb quickly, just message us when its uploaded.
20100526 16:56:24< sevis> Unnheulu|Laptop: Highlight me if you do, please, I'll be afk for a little, though.
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20100526 16:59:28< Christheturtle> Unnheulu|Laptop: Highlight me aswell, I'm quickly jumping in the shower.
20100526 16:59:39< Unnheulu|Laptop> Ok
20100526 17:00:05< Unnheulu|Laptop> The latest version is on my computer, not in svn, so I'll upload a version without recruiting and multi-sides properly working
20100526 17:00:31< Unnheulu|Laptop> http://www.jonespenarth.me.uk/~ieuan/trunk.tar.gz
20100526 17:00:40< Unnheulu|Laptop> A few edits might need to be made, not sure
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20100526 17:04:15< Unnheulu|Laptop> (Last I'll say about it in #wesnoth) you may want to redownload that as I bugfixed it
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20100526 17:20:37< sevis> Ah, this is still Python.
20100526 17:20:50< Unnheulu|Laptop> Yup
20100526 17:20:53< Unnheulu|Laptop> For now
20100526 17:21:13< Unnheulu|Laptop> (As in, a C++ port is in progress, but, veeeery slowly)
20100526 17:21:30< sevis> Fails if ~/.amazonlia/preferences doesn't exist.
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20100526 17:22:13< Unnheulu|Laptop> Bah
20100526 17:22:19< Unnheulu|Laptop> I thought I guarded against that
20100526 17:22:42< sevis> Oh, and why does moving right cause some sort of special message?
20100526 17:22:52< sevis> <character.Character instance at 0x925f2ac>
20100526 17:22:53< Unnheulu|Laptop> In the terminal? Bugs
20100526 17:23:06< sevis> Okay.
20100526 17:23:21< Unnheulu|Laptop> Actually, ex-bugs, I squashed it on the latest revision which I'll commit some-time
20100526 17:23:38< Unnheulu|Laptop> This is #wesnoth anyways, not #amazolia, gotta go now
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20100526 19:06:16< Gambit> http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.197430-Indian-Government-Uses-Comic-Book-to-Scare-Kids-From-Piracy
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20100526 21:40:50< norbert_> hi, it used to be possible to change the size of labels a user creates during a match
20100526 21:41:03< norbert_> if I recall correctly, *test would make the label bigger
20100526 21:41:16< norbert_> and there were versions where <x,x,x> would change the color, I think
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20100526 21:41:26< norbert_> was this removed all together from 1.8?
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20100526 23:53:49< Valkier> We need a dance party.
20100526 23:53:51< Valkier> Go!
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