--- Log opened Sun May 30 00:00:10 2010
20100530 00:12:00< Unnheulu|Laptop> http://www.jonespenarth.me.uk/~ieuan/Amazolia-12.png
20100530 00:12:10 * shadowmaster slaps Unnheulu|Laptop 
20100530 00:12:15< Unnheulu|Laptop> Sorry
20100530 00:12:16< shadowmaster> I already told him off by PM
20100530 00:12:22< shadowmaster> you didn't need to tell him here
20100530 00:12:29< Unnheulu|Laptop> Oh, that's what you were on about
20100530 00:12:33< Unnheulu|Laptop> Sorry about that
20100530 00:12:49< shadowmaster> o_O
20100530 00:13:00< shadowmaster> tttt-tiles
20100530 00:13:17< Unnheulu|Laptop> Have no transitions? Meeeeh
20100530 00:13:28 * shadowmaster faints
20100530 00:13:38< PetePorty> EXACTLY
20100530 00:13:45< PetePorty> thats what I said
20100530 00:13:51< Unnheulu|Laptop> I like to call it placeholder art :)
20100530 00:14:10< PetePorty> I insist, use devent placeholders
20100530 00:14:14< PetePorty> decent*
20100530 00:14:16< Unnheulu|Laptop> Noooo
20100530 00:14:30< Unnheulu|Laptop> Effort on art detracts from effort towards the code
20100530 00:14:38< shadowmaster> placeholders are placeholders
20100530 00:14:49< Unnheulu|Laptop> What the screeny doesn't show off is that recruitment works now
20100530 00:14:50< PetePorty> use wesnoth images as placeholders
20100530 00:14:55< PetePorty> no effort needed
20100530 00:14:56< shadowmaster> 18:14:30 <Unnheulu|Laptop> Effort on art detracts from effort towards the code
20100530 00:15:02< shadowmaster> this is so true :(
20100530 00:15:09< Unnheulu|Laptop> PetePorty, it is not hexbased
20100530 00:15:20< Unnheulu|Laptop> And the tiles are 80x80 not 72x72
20100530 00:15:28< PetePorty> cut the hexes and make them squares
20100530 00:15:39< Unnheulu|Laptop> And the tiles are 80x80 not 72x72
20100530 00:15:48< PetePorty> enlarge them
20100530 00:15:50< Unnheulu|Laptop> My tiles are bigger than the wesnoth ones
20100530 00:15:56< Unnheulu|Laptop> It'll look even worse?
20100530 00:15:58< Gambit> Unnheulu|Laptop: Centering
20100530 00:16:02< PetePorty> no, it wont
20100530 00:16:05< Unnheulu|Laptop> And that takes more effort
20100530 00:16:10< Unnheulu|Laptop> PetePorty, pixelisation?
20100530 00:16:18< Gambit> Unnheulu|Laptop: Not much effort though
20100530 00:16:28< Gambit> at least not if it's object oriented
20100530 00:16:57< PetePorty> r pixels aint THAT much, and pixeled wesnooth tiles will look better than yours...
20100530 00:17:04< Unnheulu|Laptop> Gambit, pygame.transform.scale(image, (height, width)) will work fine
20100530 00:17:09< PetePorty> ew... gambit...
20100530 00:17:17< PetePorty> that guy banned me....
20100530 00:17:17< Unnheulu|Laptop> But like I said, I still need to chop the tiles up
20100530 00:17:27< Unnheulu|Laptop> It's *easier* to get my brother to do me art
20100530 00:17:34< Gambit> PetePorty: I don't even want to hear it. You spammed and called people gay for a half an hour solid.
20100530 00:17:45< Gambit> And I didn't ban you.
20100530 00:17:47< PetePorty> it was 2 mins!
20100530 00:17:48< shadowmaster> wait, what?
20100530 00:17:49 * Gambit doesn't ban people
20100530 00:18:08< PetePorty> and Zarel said it was alright if I called you gay, I asked him....
20100530 00:18:16< PetePorty> not in here shadowmaster
20100530 00:18:23< Unnheulu|Laptop> In warzone2100?
20100530 00:18:23< shadowmaster> where?
20100530 00:18:32< PetePorty> in another channel
20100530 00:18:39< PetePorty> where gambit has power
20100530 00:18:41< Gambit> shadowmaster: There's only one place I can *allegedly* ban people./
20100530 00:18:47< Unnheulu|Laptop> PetePorty, it's not acceptable to call someone gay *anywhere*
20100530 00:18:48< shadowmaster> #wesnothxp
20100530 00:18:49< Unnheulu|Laptop> Like it or not.
20100530 00:18:56< PetePorty> why not
20100530 00:19:00< PetePorty> gay means happy
20100530 00:19:05< shadowmaster> meant
20100530 00:19:08< shadowmaster> long ago
20100530 00:19:23< PetePorty> so?
20100530 00:19:39< shadowmaster> so what?
20100530 00:19:41< PetePorty> and I didn't call him gay, I asked if he was gay...
20100530 00:19:52< shadowmaster> take it to PM with gambit.
20100530 00:20:00< shadowmaster> don't discuss it here. it's lame.
20100530 00:20:01< Gambit> It's 23 hours.
20100530 00:20:04< PetePorty> but... he banned me.
20100530 00:20:07< Gambit> You'll be asleep for most of them anyway.
20100530 00:20:10< shadowmaster> TAKE IT TO PM I SAID
20100530 00:20:14< PetePorty> O.o
20100530 00:20:18< Gambit> shadowmaster: sorry.
20100530 00:20:18 * PetePorty runs
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20100530 00:20:44 * shadowmaster breathes purple lightning around
20100530 00:20:48< Gambit> haha
20100530 00:21:01< PetePorty> -.-
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20100530 00:28:34< Valkier> Great guys. Piss of shadowmaster.
20100530 00:28:41-!- Johannes13 [~Johannes@unaffiliated/johannes13] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
20100530 00:28:41< Valkier> Now we'll all pay for it.
20100530 00:29:13< PetePorty> shadowmaster wants to ban gambit.... mwahahaha
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20100530 00:29:30< Valkier> Who doesn't?
20100530 00:29:39< Gambit> Turuk!
20100530 00:29:43< Gambit> And uh...
20100530 00:29:55< Gambit> fritzmonkey! (different forum)
20100530 00:30:01< shadowmaster> well, he's one of my trusted moderators, so I wouldn't ban him anyway
20100530 00:36:12< PetePorty> but you want to
20100530 00:36:33< shadowmaster> nah.
20100530 00:36:42< PetePorty> but.... you said so
20100530 00:37:00< Valkier> Shadowmaster only wants to ban Russel Crowe.
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20100530 00:37:16< shadowmaster> PetePorty: IT'S A JOKE
20100530 00:37:21 * shadowmaster *purple lightning*
20100530 00:37:26< Valkier> Why purple?
20100530 00:37:32< shadowmaster> because I wanted it so
20100530 00:37:33< Valkier> Diablo used red.
20100530 00:37:35< PetePorty> I know, I know....
20100530 00:37:45< shadowmaster> necromancy projectiles in wesnoth are purpleish
20100530 00:37:47< PetePorty> jeeze.
20100530 00:37:50< Valkier> True
20100530 00:38:08< PetePorty> OMG!
20100530 00:38:21< Valkier> I'll have to remember that for the arch lich portraits...
20100530 00:38:28< Gambit> Purple is the color of the sith.
20100530 00:38:31< Valkier> or ancient lich. whatever.
20100530 00:38:40< Gambit> The liches are sith.
20100530 00:38:53< Valkier> Well duh.
20100530 00:39:21< Gambit> Supposedly (in the star wars universe) the sith are capable of necormancy.
20100530 00:39:25< shadowmaster> ...red is the color of the Sith. :/
20100530 00:39:29< Gambit> But it's so inneffective as a weapon.
20100530 00:39:34< Gambit> shadowmaster: No that's their lightsabers.
20100530 00:39:39< Gambit> Purple is a color of power.
20100530 00:39:52< krotop> wasn't it pink ?
20100530 00:39:52< Valkier> Purple, in star wars, is the color of the BAMF jedi.
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20100530 00:40:00< shadowmaster> BAMF?
20100530 00:40:07< Valkier> Ever see Pulp Fiction?
20100530 00:40:07< ancestral> Gambit: I'm not so sure about that
20100530 00:40:13< ancestral> Necromancy?
20100530 00:40:14< ancestral> Nah
20100530 00:40:17< shadowmaster> Valkier: no
20100530 00:40:19< Valkier> Oh.
20100530 00:40:29< ancestral> Pulp fiction is worth seeing
20100530 00:40:31< Valkier> That's what is written on Samuel L. Jackson's wallet. BAMF.
20100530 00:40:58< ancestral> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAMF#BA
20100530 00:41:08< krotop> what's the A for ? I can recall BMF only
20100530 00:41:21< Valkier> Bad @$$
20100530 00:41:37< krotop> oukay
20100530 00:41:37< Valkier> Maybe it didn't have the A come to think of it...
20100530 00:42:04< Valkier> Either way he was the only character with a purple lightsaber.
20100530 00:42:05< Gambit> man. My package has been sitting in pittsburgh since 6 am this morning
20100530 00:42:16< Gambit> Why would a parcel delivery service suddenly stop moving a parcel?
20100530 00:42:23< ancestral> Reminds me of http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0367790/
20100530 00:42:27< Gambit> Only two hours away from the delivery point too!
20100530 00:42:43< Valkier> Where do you live, Gambit?
20100530 00:42:52< Gambit> Valkier: Two hours from pittsburgh :D
20100530 00:43:02< Valkier> Give me a town. I live in PA as well.
20100530 00:43:23< Gambit> south central PA :\
20100530 00:43:34< Valkier> Redneck.
20100530 00:43:38< Gambit> bedford county
20100530 00:43:54< ancestral> My grandfather had a farm near Nome
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20100530 00:44:24< Valkier> hah!
20100530 00:44:31< ancestral> Wait
20100530 00:44:32< ancestral> Rome
20100530 00:44:36< Valkier> You live just to the west of me.
20100530 00:44:59< ancestral> Largest city nearby I guess would Towanda
20100530 00:45:57< Valkier> Like maybe an hour from me.
20100530 00:46:01< ancestral> Somewhere south of Elmira
20100530 00:46:02< ancestral> Okay
20100530 00:53:51< PetePorty> yay! I'm downloadaing wesnoth 1.0.2
20100530 00:54:06< Valkier> Why?
20100530 00:54:14< PetePorty> dunno
20100530 00:54:28< PetePorty> shadowmasters thingy inspired me
20100530 00:54:36< shadowmaster> my what?
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20100530 00:54:56< PetePorty> ur thing... from your signature
20100530 00:54:56< Valkier> I feel like a bass line should start now.
20100530 00:55:04< shadowmaster> ah, but that's wesnoth 0.1
20100530 00:55:13< shadowmaster> wesnoth 1.0.2 is much more...developed than 0.1
20100530 00:55:25< PetePorty> yeah, but couldn't find it
20100530 00:55:27< shadowmaster> reminds me I need to complete the 0.2 article
20100530 00:55:40< shadowmaster> http://shadowm.rewound.net/junk/wesnoth-0.1-win32.zip I think
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20100530 00:55:51< ancestral> In "junk?"
20100530 00:56:06< shadowmaster> ...yes.
20100530 00:56:08< PetePorty> I can't acces it
20100530 00:56:13< shadowmaster> let me fix that
20100530 00:56:16< PetePorty> brb
20100530 00:56:20< PetePorty> thx btw
20100530 00:56:28< shadowmaster> it should work now
20100530 00:56:37< shadowmaster> that's the Windows version, btw
20100530 00:57:36< PetePorty> k, thx
20100530 00:59:59< PetePorty> damn... I can't fit the window on my screen
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20100530 01:00:38< shadowmaster> um.
20100530 01:00:47< PetePorty> and I can't close it....
20100530 01:01:03< Gambit> Guess who just got a new signature: (6:54:26 PM) PetePorty: shadowmasters thingy inspired me
20100530 01:01:03< Gambit> (6:54:34 PM) shadowmaster: my what?
20100530 01:01:43< shadowmaster> yeah, it's hardcoded
20100530 01:01:47< shadowmaster> you should be able to close it
20100530 01:01:58< shadowmaster> otherwise you should be ble to kill it with the task manager
20100530 01:02:14< PetePorty> uhh.... how do I do that?
20100530 01:02:33< Daltx> crtl + shift + esc
20100530 01:02:48< shadowmaster> no
20100530 01:02:56< shadowmaster> ctrl + alt + del, this is on windows
20100530 01:03:02< PetePorty> k, thx
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20100530 01:03:17< PetePorty> daltxs thing worked just fine....
20100530 01:03:27< Daltx> yes, i am on windows ..
20100530 01:03:52< shadowmaster> uh
20100530 01:04:08 * shadowmaster sumons windows xp
20100530 01:04:11< PetePorty> windows xp if that helps at all
20100530 01:04:11< Daltx> crtl + alt + del takes you to a page and then you can select task manager as well at least in win 7
20100530 01:04:32< shadowmaster> well, I didn't know about ctrl + shift + esc
20100530 01:04:38< Daltx> :)
20100530 01:04:41< shadowmaster> I'm used to ctrl + alt +del from the Windows 3.11 times
20100530 01:04:49< PetePorty> awesome, we all learned something new today
20100530 01:05:29< shadowmaster> but something's wrong.
20100530 01:05:34< shadowmaster> I feel a disturbance in the Source.
20100530 01:05:40< PetePorty> is that windows 95?
20100530 01:05:55< shadowmaster> what is?
20100530 01:06:10< PetePorty> 3.11 = 95?
20100530 01:06:13< Daltx> 3.11 is not windows 95
20100530 01:06:18< PetePorty> nope?
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20100530 01:06:24< PetePorty> thought it was...
20100530 01:06:25< shadowmaster> 95 is 3.11's successor
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20100530 01:06:32< PetePorty> oh... ok
20100530 01:06:35< shadowmaster> 95's internal version number is 4.00
20100530 01:06:38< PetePorty> I'm too young then
20100530 01:07:07< shadowmaster> anyway, afk
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20100530 02:52:55< Unnheulu> Shadowmaster, you dislike chile?
20100530 02:53:18< Unnheulu> Because...people buy American stuf...
20100530 02:53:47< shadowmaster> reply in the correct channel or STFU
20100530 02:53:58< Unnheulu> Meh fine
20100530 02:54:12< Unnheulu> Wesnoth-umc-dev, right?
20100530 02:54:13< shadowmaster> I'm not willing to bring #wesnoth-umc-dev into #wesnoth
20100530 02:54:24< shadowmaster> wait, aren't you replying precisely because you read the logs?
20100530 02:54:57< Unnheulu> Pretty much
20100530 02:55:02< Unnheulu> But log is closed now
20100530 02:55:26< shadowmaster> the log isn't closed
20100530 02:55:51< shadowmaster> unless you mean that the bot whose logs you are watching already switched day
20100530 02:55:52< Unnheulu> As in browser reading log is closed ;)
20100530 02:56:12< Unnheulu> Switched day 3 hours ago...
20100530 02:56:30< Unnheulu> It's running in gmt
20100530 02:56:52< shadowmaster> I don't think so
20100530 02:57:10< Unnheulu> It's an hour behind me
20100530 02:57:14< shadowmaster> wesbot's host uses a timezone native to Austria IIRC, and shikadibot's native to the Netherlands
20100530 02:57:18< Unnheulu> I'm in gmt+1
20100530 02:57:26< shadowmaster> uhm...
20100530 02:57:37< shadowmaster> well, maybe their config changes
20100530 02:57:40< Unnheulu> Weird cause austria should be +2
20100530 02:58:15< shadowmaster> *changed
20100530 02:58:34< shadowmaster> are you using irclogs.wesnoth.org?
20100530 02:58:51< shadowmaster> that bot runs on a UTC host, so yeah
20100530 02:58:52< Unnheulu> Wesnoth.org/irclogs
20100530 02:58:58< shadowmaster> exactly
20100530 02:58:59< Unnheulu> But i think it's the same
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20100530 04:39:18< hagabaka> does anyone else think the Revenge scenario in Dead Waters is ridiculous?
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20100530 05:11:45< King_Elendil> Gambit, what you up to?
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20100530 05:14:48< Gambit> King_Elendil: Sleeping.
20100530 05:15:17< King_Elendil> did I wake you?
20100530 05:15:29< Gambit> no
20100530 05:15:36< King_Elendil> good
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20100530 05:51:58< KamusHadenes> hey there
20100530 05:52:02< KamusHadenes> can 1.6 play with 1.8?
20100530 05:53:05< Valkier> I believe so...
20100530 05:53:29< KamusHadenes> my friend, using 1.6, can't find me in global server. I use 1.8
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20100530 05:58:57< ancestral> No, not on the server
20100530 05:59:16< ancestral> And probably not otherwise. 1.6 and 1.8 are too different
20100530 05:59:31< KamusHadenes> thanks :)
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20100530 10:09:07< Ivanovic> moin
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20100530 10:17:00< ancestral> A bit off-topic, but anyone have experience with this: http://vanillaforums.org/
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20100530 17:30:27< Zerovirus> Gah so bored someone get me a sprite request
20100530 17:31:36< Gambit> ZEROVIRUS
20100530 17:31:49< Gambit> Hey is the most up-to-date version of steeelhive on the addon server
20100530 17:31:56< Gambit> or do you have a copy somewhere you'd like me to start from
20100530 17:32:10< Gambit> Zerovirus: ^^^
20100530 17:33:05< Zerovirus> Well, pretty much it's already on the server
20100530 17:33:09< Gambit> k
20100530 17:33:42< Zerovirus> Though what I have in mind doesn't really involve you changing what's already there... It's more like adding stat modules that I can more easily balance in my own time.
20100530 17:33:49< Zerovirus> Also, you just reminded me about the Bearded Lady.
20100530 17:33:50< Gambit> right
20100530 17:33:55< Gambit> The Bearded Lady
20100530 17:34:15< Gambit> Best pirate ship name ever!
20100530 17:34:50< Zerovirus> But I don't feel like spriting something with flat shiny surfaces... :(
20100530 17:34:59< Zerovirus> I was thinking about doing something with more texture
20100530 17:35:26< Gambit> how about an air conditioner with a ghillie suit!
20100530 17:35:30 * Gambit is just kidding
20100530 17:35:35< Gambit> Zerovirus: How about something avian.
20100530 17:35:57< Zerovirus> I was just looking at the eagle rider in Ageless, trying to find some inspiration
20100530 17:36:01< Gambit> Wesnoth needs ostrich riders.
20100530 17:36:07< Zerovirus> ...
20100530 17:36:17< Zerovirus> Why do the Desert elves still not have ostrich riders?
20100530 17:36:22< Zerovirus> That is the best idea every
20100530 17:36:26< Zerovirus> *ever
20100530 17:37:50< Gambit> Zerovirus: so what if putting these in overwrites what's there?
20100530 17:37:54< Gambit> Should I be careful?
20100530 17:37:56< Zerovirus> Nope
20100530 17:38:00< Zerovirus> I have my own version
20100530 17:38:02< Gambit> k.
20100530 17:38:07< Zerovirus> it already has stats nothing like the server version
20100530 17:38:08< Gambit> I figured you were starting from scratch
20100530 17:38:30< Zerovirus> In fact just resetting every number to 0 would work almost as well :P
20100530 17:38:41< Gambit> So besides movetype, defense, and resist, anything else?
20100530 17:39:03< Zerovirus> I can fix everything else myself, I think.
20100530 17:39:05< Gambit> s/type/costs/
20100530 17:39:31< Gambit> Boy I dunno Zero. This copy/pasting might be out of my league :P
20100530 17:39:45< Zerovirus> Well I definitely know it's out of mine :P
20100530 17:39:51< Zerovirus> How are your myriad projects going?
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20100530 17:40:35< Gambit> Terrible
20100530 17:40:45< Gambit> They're Vaporware :o
20100530 17:40:54< Zerovirus> What?
20100530 17:41:04< Gambit> 5 more days of school
20100530 17:41:06< Gambit> then FREEEDOM
20100530 17:41:26< Zerovirus> 1 more week
20100530 17:41:30< Gambit> Zerovirus: Vaporware is a video game or piece of software that is constantly announced as "COMING SOON!"
20100530 17:41:42< Gambit> but almost no development is being done
20100530 17:41:47< Zerovirus> and I exempted chemistry and english, and took Algebra already, so my last final that matters is World History
20100530 17:41:47< Gambit> see: duke nukem forever
20100530 17:41:49< Zerovirus> I see.
20100530 17:42:03< Gambit> But people are still getting paid to work on it!
20100530 17:42:11< Gambit> see: Thunderstone
20100530 17:42:12< Zerovirus> Sounds like my dad's engineering company
20100530 17:42:56< Gambit> Hey and when you get your stats filled in, ping me back and I'll try to condense them into movetypes again (if you want)
20100530 17:43:04< Gambit> it saves a lot of space
20100530 17:43:54< Gambit> o_O
20100530 17:44:04< Gambit> you can put [set_menu_item]s inside unit files?
20100530 17:44:21< Gambit> Zerovirus: Who originally coded this again. O_o
20100530 17:44:26< Zerovirus> Melinath
20100530 17:44:37< Zerovirus> He hasn't made himself seen in the forums for months though
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20100530 17:46:55< Gambit> You know...
20100530 17:46:59< Gambit> someone you know on the internet could die
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20100530 17:47:02< Gambit> and you'd never know
20100530 17:47:19< Gambit> I think I'm going to place a list of forums I frequent into my will
20100530 17:47:22< Gambit> just in case
20100530 17:47:34< Gambit> "please alert these forums to my untimely demise"
20100530 17:49:09< Gambit> alright done.
20100530 17:49:15< Gambit> now how to do DCC on pidgin...
20100530 17:49:58< elias> where do you store your will?
20100530 17:50:14< elias> something like ~/will.doc and it gets auto-mailed to everyone when you don't log in for a few weeks? :P
20100530 17:50:23< Gambit> elias: Brilliant!
20100530 17:50:41< Gambit> Zerovirus: Do you see anything about me sending you a file?
20100530 17:51:00< Zerovirus> Huh what?
20100530 17:51:04< Zerovirus> Yes, kinda
20100530 17:51:14< Gambit> elias: except that'd be c:\users\Gambit\will.doc
20100530 17:51:15< Zerovirus> something requested CTCP DCC send Steelhive_units.zip
20100530 17:51:19< Gambit> Zerovirus: yeah
20100530 17:51:23< Gambit> Accept that.
20100530 17:51:34< Zerovirus> And I've decided to make a will included with all my forums a long time ago man :P
20100530 17:51:42< Zerovirus> Accept... right. How?
20100530 17:51:46< Gambit> dunno
20100530 17:51:55< Gambit> irc wizards: how can he accept that?
20100530 17:52:06< Zerovirus> you could just use the forums yannow
20100530 17:52:07< Zerovirus> :P
20100530 17:52:09< sevis> Depends on client.
20100530 17:52:15< Gambit> Zerovirus: keedoky
20100530 17:52:47< sevis> Probably something like /accept, /dcc accept or /dcc get.
20100530 17:52:51< Zerovirus> oh yeah I remembered a sprite challence I haven't started yet
20100530 17:53:06< Zerovirus> now I have something to do. Actually 2 things, yay
20100530 17:53:27< Gambit> Zerovirus: sprite challenge?
20100530 17:53:37< Gambit> That's a great way to put it...
20100530 17:53:48< Gambit> Hey Zerovirus I bet you can't sprite an ostrich rider!
20100530 17:53:52< Gambit> You're too lame. :P
20100530 17:53:53< Zerovirus> King_Elendil told me to sprite something based on one of Lord_Bob's latest portraits.
20100530 17:54:08< Zerovirus> Oho now it's on, gamboy
20100530 17:54:20< Gambit> Also I sent you that zip in a pm.
20100530 17:54:46 * Gambit goes to re-familiarize himself with GEB's tangled web of code.
20100530 17:57:33< Zerovirus> Huh. That's a lot of unit image links for the Amniote.
20100530 17:57:41< Zerovirus> Looks like I'll have to do a bit of copy and paste with my idle anim.
20100530 18:02:33< Zerovirus> yay, time to figure out how to give my units an impact attack
20100530 18:03:04< Zerovirus> What's the description under attack name for?
20100530 18:04:08< zookeeper> the player-visible string
20100530 18:04:40< Gambit> I love it when code magically fixes itself...
20100530 18:04:51< zookeeper> Zerovirus, need sprite work? how about a new runesmith line or new haldric (someone started those but never finished)?
20100530 18:05:24< Zerovirus> I'll do sprites once I finish plumbing the mysteries of Unit WML. I suppose it was inevitable that I'd have to learn sooner or later.
20100530 18:06:06< Gambit> Zerovirus: Join us.
20100530 18:07:55< Zerovirus> And that's the Slasher's stats done, I think.
20100530 18:08:49< Zerovirus> and after this I have to take on the oh so daunting task of making a whole new unit CFG from scratch
20100530 18:09:26< zookeeper> never make a whole new unit cfg from scratch
20100530 18:09:31< zookeeper> just copy an existing one and change what you need
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20100530 18:09:59< zookeeper> (i've probably never made a single scenario, unit, era or campaign .cfg from scratch)
20100530 18:10:56< Zerovirus> Yeahp that's about what I mean
20100530 18:11:11< Zerovirus> but still... And then I have to run GIMP up and get my updated unit images processed
20100530 18:12:18< Gambit> wow
20100530 18:12:22< Gambit> I went to upload GEB and
20100530 18:12:25< Gambit> wesnoth crashed...
20100530 18:12:38< Zerovirus> lol
20100530 18:12:59< Zerovirus> The resistances are backwards, right? That is to say, the lower the number, the lower cth ingame? Or is it the opposite?
20100530 18:13:33< Gambit> Zerovirus: Yeah 0 makes them really strong against it.
20100530 18:13:44< Gambit> 10 makes them take 10% less damage (or only 90%)
20100530 18:13:48< Gambit> or wait.
20100530 18:13:51< Gambit> no that's not right
20100530 18:13:54< Gambit> because you can't go negative.
20100530 18:14:15< Zerovirus> Uh
20100530 18:14:39< Zerovirus> what does giving something 100 mean? 100 percent damage taken or 100 percent damage resisted?
20100530 18:14:57< Zerovirus> No wait 100 is neutral
20100530 18:15:06< Zerovirus> Darnit i was thinking about terrain dodge
20100530 18:15:07< Gambit> yeah I think
20100530 18:15:13< Gambit> 100 is 100% damage
20100530 18:15:17< Gambit> 90 would be 90%
20100530 18:15:26< Gambit> 0 would be an immunity (but the game makes that 1%)
20100530 18:15:27< Zerovirus> Yeah okay.
20100530 18:15:32< Gambit> 200 would be double damage
20100530 18:15:33< Gambit> etc
20100530 18:15:46< Gambit> holy shit
20100530 18:15:50< Gambit> it has two downloads already
20100530 18:15:53< Zerovirus> Sooo... What would 100 as terrain dodge mean? ~100 percent dodge or ~100 percent to be hit?
20100530 18:16:04< Gambit> Zerovirus: I think defense is backwards
20100530 18:16:05< Zerovirus> once I'm done with Steelhive make that three
20100530 18:16:06< Gambit> so 100 to be hit
20100530 18:16:17< Zerovirus> Yeah, terrain defense always got me confused
20100530 18:16:28< Gambit> indeed
20100530 18:16:36< Gambit> Zerovirus: I want negative resistances
20100530 18:16:45< Gambit> so like -10% would absorb 10% as HP :D
20100530 18:16:51< Zerovirus> Whut
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20100530 18:16:58< Zerovirus> No that's... No.
20100530 18:17:02< Zerovirus> i'm trying to balance it here dammit
20100530 18:17:05< Zerovirus> :P
20100530 18:17:57< Gambit> Zerovirus: Don't worry.
20100530 18:18:04< Gambit> The game doesn't know what negative resistances are.
20100530 18:18:08< Gambit> My idea was generally disliked.
20100530 18:18:13< Zerovirus> Lol
20100530 18:18:19< Zerovirus> you're like this one guy I know in class
20100530 18:18:41< Zerovirus> No anecdotes atm though :P
20100530 18:18:53< Gambit> Because the peanut gallery that is the idea forum's regular clientelle kept confusing "make something possible to do in the engine" with "DU DIS EN MAYNLYNE RYGHT NAOW!"
20100530 18:19:04< Zerovirus> Anyways, I'm basing the Slasher's stats off the Naga line. I think the Naga's play style is close to the Slasher.
20100530 18:19:24< Gambit> Most of the comments were like "Eww I don't want drakes to absorb fire!"
20100530 18:20:11< Zerovirus> lollllll
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20100530 18:25:17< Zerovirus> yay, time to start working on the Steel Monolith and Steel Hyperlith lines
20100530 18:25:26-!- Cyber_Rock is now known as Ankit_1992s
20100530 18:25:37< Gambit> Zerovirus: Can you make them Methylith and Ethylith?
20100530 18:25:42< Gambit> Cause that'd be awesome!
20100530 18:25:45< Gambit> jk.
20100530 18:26:04-!- Ankit_1992s is now known as Cyber_Rock
20100530 18:26:09 * Gambit wants an era named using IUPAC conventions.
20100530 18:26:29< Zerovirus> I'm not nerdy enough to get the joke... :(
20100530 18:27:02< Zerovirus> What different 'usage=' types are there?
20100530 18:27:04< Gambit> Organic Chemistry Era ftw!
20100530 18:27:14< Gambit> Zerovirus: fighter, archer, medic are the most common
20100530 18:27:19< Gambit> but I think it's simple string matching
20100530 18:27:22< Gambit> you can make your own.
20100530 18:27:28< Gambit> But the AI on default maps won't understand it
20100530 18:27:31< Zerovirus> Aaagh too complex :P
20100530 18:27:35< Zerovirus> I'll just stiick with fighter
20100530 18:27:47< Gambit> fighter, archer, healer, scout
20100530 18:27:49< Gambit> I think
20100530 18:28:40< Gambit> Also terrible news regarding WNBF.
20100530 18:28:48< Gambit> The server won't allow an eleven sided game :(
20100530 18:29:01< Gambit> Even though three of those are leaderless AI sides :(
20100530 18:29:17< Zerovirus> Uh.
20100530 18:30:14< Zerovirus> aaaanyways, why do we still need to put {MAGENTA_IS_FREAKING_TEAM_COLOR_YOU_STUPID_PROGRAM}? Why doesn't Wesnoth already automatically read Magenta as TC instead of us having to tell it that?
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20100530 18:30:31< Gambit> Zerovirus: Because by default there is no TC.
20100530 18:30:34< Valkier> oin #Wesnoth0music
20100530 18:30:39< Gambit> dunno
20100530 18:30:40< Zerovirus> BUT TEHRE SHOULD BE
20100530 18:30:44< Valkier> Doh
20100530 18:30:45< Gambit> Valkier: No.
20100530 18:30:47< Zerovirus> It's prevalent enough that it should be defaultedly there
20100530 18:30:56< Gambit> Zerovirus: so is first_time_only=no
20100530 18:30:57< Zerovirus> okay I just mangled grammar
20100530 18:31:05< Zerovirus> no idea what that does btw
20100530 18:31:11< Zerovirus> but it's always there so why not
20100530 18:31:29< Gambit> Because the people who make WML don't use it.
20100530 18:31:34< Gambit> (just kidding!)
20100530 18:32:32< Gambit> Zerovirus: did you see this: http://forums.wesnoth.org/download/file.php?id=41122
20100530 18:32:44< Gambit> I think it might just be cooler than a lot of your stuff.
20100530 18:32:44< Valkier> hah! I'm still banned from umc-dev.
20100530 18:33:20< SekoIdiootti> why? :0
20100530 18:33:22< Zerovirus> What did you do?
20100530 18:33:34< Gambit> He was bad.
20100530 18:33:36< Zerovirus> Gambit: Yes I did
20100530 18:33:45< Zerovirus> I was going to redesign it but I was like whutevar
20100530 18:33:50< Gambit> Zerovirus: Isn't it awesome sauce!?
20100530 18:34:00< Valkier> Zerovirus: I told Shadowmaster to use Windows 7.
20100530 18:34:01< Zerovirus> Ehh... Not really imo
20100530 18:34:02< SekoIdiootti> It reminds me of the crappy alien I made once. :(
20100530 18:34:04< Zerovirus> LOL
20100530 18:34:18< Gambit> Zerovirus: And not just once either.
20100530 18:34:24< Gambit> He told him many times.
20100530 18:34:26< SekoIdiootti> except that it's not crappy
20100530 18:34:31< Zerovirus> heh
20100530 18:34:40< Zerovirus> I'm still running XP here, I'm a total tech noob
20100530 18:34:47< Valkier> I'm on XP right now.
20100530 18:34:56< SekoIdiootti> http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss6/Woodmouse-/alien1-big.png <-that one
20100530 18:34:56< Gambit> You know there's a channel for wesnoth players on XP.
20100530 18:35:04< Gambit> really
20100530 18:35:06< Valkier> ..why?
20100530 18:35:15< Gambit> Valkier: cause
20100530 18:35:24< Zerovirus> Shrug
20100530 18:35:27< Gambit> #wesnothxp 
20100530 18:35:28< Gambit> :D
20100530 18:35:44< SekoIdiootti> Zerovirus: You shrug about my 2 years old spirte? xD
20100530 18:35:48< Gambit> No. That's not really what that's for :(
20100530 18:35:48< SekoIdiootti> or year or something
20100530 18:35:56< Gambit> SekoIdiootti: Your sprite crashed my gimp
20100530 18:35:59< SekoIdiootti> LOL
20100530 18:36:07< SekoIdiootti> weeeeell, it's old
20100530 18:36:09< SekoIdiootti> xD
20100530 18:36:12< Gambit> Wow
20100530 18:36:12< SekoIdiootti> I mean, the sprite
20100530 18:36:14< SekoIdiootti> not gimp
20100530 18:36:16< Gambit> they're almost identicle
20100530 18:36:21< Gambit> biologically that is
20100530 18:36:27< Zerovirus> Man I should tell you guys about my dream
20100530 18:36:35< Gambit> except that one of them evolved to be more attractive
20100530 18:36:36< Zerovirus> it was pixelated epicness
20100530 18:36:36< Gambit> :)
20100530 18:36:43< SekoIdiootti> lol
20100530 18:37:01< Gambit> Zerovirus: You dream in pixels?
20100530 18:37:06< Zerovirus> I did last night
20100530 18:37:08< Zerovirus> IT WAS GLORIOUs
20100530 18:37:15< Zerovirus> a conflagration of scifi, tronlines, and Darth Vader
20100530 18:37:31< Zerovirus> I fought Darth Vader using my pixelized version of the force
20100530 18:37:41< Gambit> note to self: sneak into Zerovirus's room while he's sleeping and strap pen to his hand
20100530 18:37:58< Gambit> steal drawing before he wakes up in the morning
20100530 18:38:11< SekoIdiootti> lol
20100530 18:40:35< Valkier> Gambit: You just figured out how I do all mine. :-(
20100530 18:40:48< SekoIdiootti> Speaking about dreams, I had a kinda weird dream a few days ago. I was in a forset with my parents and there was a wooden house with a hole in it, and there was a body in the hole. I threw a stone to to head of the body, and its eyes opened and it started looking around really fast, and my mom screamed and then it closed the eyes, and I threw a new stone and it opened again, and my dad dug...
20100530 18:40:49< Gambit> Rofl
20100530 18:40:49< SekoIdiootti> ...it out of the hole, and then weird alien babies started crawling from everywhere. Then I woke up.
20100530 18:42:01< SekoIdiootti> It was scary
20100530 18:42:08< SekoIdiootti> But not scariest
20100530 18:43:22< Gambit> Why would you throw a rock at a body in a hole?
20100530 18:43:53< SekoIdiootti> well... dunno
20100530 18:44:00< SekoIdiootti> I wouldn't, but in the dream I did lol
20100530 18:44:14< Gambit> sure
20100530 18:45:03< SekoIdiootti> ?
20100530 18:45:15< Gambit> as in "sure you wouldn't"
20100530 18:45:37< SekoIdiootti> ...ok
20100530 18:45:56< SekoIdiootti> well, if it woud move and try to kill me, I would
20100530 18:46:05< Gambit> Zerovirus: Your era killed my computer
20100530 18:46:07< SekoIdiootti> but if it just lied there, I probably wouldn't
20100530 18:46:12< Gambit> It says I don't have permission to delete the folder :o
20100530 18:46:34< SekoIdiootti> :0
20100530 18:46:35< Gambit> I wasn't aware there was a higher level of access on my personal computer :\
20100530 18:46:44< SekoIdiootti> well, windows
20100530 18:46:46< Valkier> Admin!
20100530 18:46:59< SekoIdiootti> I get that all the time... D:
20100530 18:47:01< SekoIdiootti> it's horrible
20100530 18:47:13< SekoIdiootti> but I know many things more horrible.
20100530 18:47:22< Gambit> Valkier: I iz admin.
20100530 18:47:37< Gambit> It's probably pidgin holding onto it because I tried to DCC soemthing in it earlier.
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20100530 18:48:32< Tomsik_> haha, windows not letting you to delete a file, because it's open
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20100530 18:48:56< Gambit> Experimentation supports my hypothesis
20100530 18:49:32< Zerovirus> I'm back
20100530 18:49:45< Zerovirus> And I've tried unconscious drawing before
20100530 18:49:59< Zerovirus> The result was my hand falling off the paper and making a huge blot on my bedsheet
20100530 18:50:05< Zerovirus> my mom was really mad :P
20100530 18:50:35< Valkier> hehe
20100530 18:50:37< SekoIdiootti> :0
20100530 18:51:13< Zerovirus> in retrospect I shouldn't have used marker
20100530 18:51:17< Gambit> lol
20100530 18:51:23< Zerovirus> but I didn't trust my hand to be able to produce enough pressure with any other media of art
20100530 18:51:42< Zerovirus> Next time I'll use really really soft charcoal, that shoudl work when I'm asleep
20100530 18:52:09< SekoIdiootti> Oh and btw, about scarier things than the dream... the scariest thing I've ever seen was googling "burned severly deformed baby monster with no face"
20100530 18:52:36< Gambit> I knew babies would be involved.
20100530 18:52:41< Gambit> Zerovirus: Charcoal will make a mess too.
20100530 18:52:46< Zerovirus> but not as much
20100530 18:52:47< Gambit> Granted it'll be an easier to clean mess.
20100530 18:52:50< Zerovirus> and at least it could be washed off
20100530 18:52:58< Zerovirus> stupid unwashable sharpie
20100530 18:53:08< SekoIdiootti> Gambit: Because I fear babies. They're horrible. D:
20100530 18:53:10< Zerovirus> Hmm... Scariest thing? RubyQuest.
20100530 18:53:25< Zerovirus> You were once a baby too
20100530 18:53:31< SekoIdiootti> Yeah...
20100530 18:53:33< Gambit> Oh are we talking about what we're afraid of?
20100530 18:53:35< Zerovirus> How do I make babby? How is babby formed?
20100530 18:53:41< SekoIdiootti> lol
20100530 18:54:07< Zerovirus> Now all of you be good kids and go google Rubyquest on TvTropes.
20100530 18:54:16< Zerovirus> It was a bad idea to read it at midnight :P
20100530 18:54:21< SekoIdiootti> hmm
20100530 18:55:02 * SekoIdiootti googles
20100530 18:55:13< Gambit> Oh man... I made the mistake once of starting "And then there were none" really late at night once.
20100530 18:55:21< Gambit> And I was up until 3 am because I was too chicken to put it down
20100530 18:55:41< Valkier> That a movie or something?
20100530 18:55:46< Gambit> a book
20100530 18:56:02< SekoIdiootti> hmmm?
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20100530 18:56:04< Valkier> Creepy I take it.
20100530 18:56:21< Gambit> After reading it, you'll never be able to think about a certain nursery rhyme the same way ever again.
20100530 18:56:39< Zerovirus> Ring around the rosies?
20100530 18:56:40< Valkier> My parents whipped me with cords to make me sleep...
20100530 18:56:51< SekoIdiootti> lol
20100530 18:56:51< Zerovirus> That's a bit illogical
20100530 18:56:58< Zerovirus> they should have injected you with chemicals
20100530 18:57:02< SekoIdiootti> :0
20100530 18:57:04< Zerovirus> eventually one would make yoru brain stop
20100530 18:57:10< Zerovirus> :P
20100530 18:57:14< Valkier> Pfft. My brain stopped years ago.
20100530 18:57:18< Valkier> That's why I do fine arts.
20100530 18:57:22< Gambit> ZING
20100530 18:57:26< Valkier> Ho ho!
20100530 18:57:40< Zerovirus> My brain stopped when final exams started.
20100530 18:57:47< Gambit> Zerovirus: I ken haz teem culered sun?
20100530 18:57:54< Gambit> peeze?
20100530 18:57:55< Zerovirus> ...What?
20100530 18:58:08< Zerovirus> Can't you just recolor the sun to be the spectrum from red to white?
20100530 18:58:11< Zerovirus> and then maybe blue?
20100530 18:58:27< Gambit> I want it to be randomizable like the gas giants.
20100530 18:58:36< Zerovirus> BUT SUNS DONT LOOK LIK ETHAT
20100530 18:58:42< Zerovirus> SUNS HAVE SET COLOR SPECTRUMs >.<
20100530 18:58:43< Gambit> Zerovirus: erm...
20100530 18:58:47< Gambit> I know.
20100530 18:58:55< Gambit> okay :(
20100530 18:59:00< Zerovirus> Lol srry
20100530 18:59:03< Gambit> But also it has this weird asteroid circling it
20100530 18:59:11< Zerovirus> but I'm not in a pixeling or working mood and... What?
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20100530 18:59:23< Zerovirus> me r confuzed
20100530 18:59:26< Gambit> I ken haz sumwan to kut owt weerd azteroid?
20100530 18:59:43< Zerovirus> Man, I am not the man to go to for this :P
20100530 18:59:52< Zerovirus> I specialize in pixels, not photoshopping :P
20100530 19:00:13< Zerovirus> Also, Gambit, stop making me envision you as a lolcat wearing Luffy's hat.
20100530 19:00:38< Gambit> and a tie!
20100530 19:00:51< Gambit> Valkier: That reminds me
20100530 19:00:59< Valkier> Are we back to One Piece again?
20100530 19:00:59< Gambit> I'm supposed to keep pestering you about how unique one piece is
20100530 19:01:08< Gambit> a guy made out of rubber
20100530 19:01:14< Valkier> Yeah. I've seen it.
20100530 19:01:16< Gambit> a swordsman that uses a sword in each hand and one in his mouth
20100530 19:01:20< Gambit> a robot wearing a speedo
20100530 19:01:28< Gambit> a living skeleton with an afro that likes music
20100530 19:01:29< Valkier> A guy with a long nose with a slingshot.
20100530 19:01:43< Gambit> a chef who refuses to use his hand in a fight, but who can kick so fast his legs catch fire
20100530 19:01:49< Zerovirus> I've only watched like 2 scenes in it
20100530 19:01:55< Zerovirus> and it looks kinda like nonsense based humor to me
20100530 19:02:02< Zerovirus> Maybe I just don't like anime :s
20100530 19:02:02< Gambit> Valkier: long nose slingshot guy who is also a comulsive liar!
20100530 19:02:10< Gambit> *compulsive
20100530 19:02:23< Valkier> Gambit: I still think you guys need to watch Berserk.
20100530 19:02:30< Valkier> Or read it.
20100530 19:02:39< Valkier> The manga is much more screwed up.
20100530 19:02:39< Gambit> and a talking reindeer that can change into a human shaped talking reindeer
20100530 19:03:26< Valkier> Isn't he a doctor too?
20100530 19:03:33< Gambit> yes
20100530 19:04:17< Zerovirus> To remind myself, I am expected to produce an orc sprite and an elven ostrich rider, eh?
20100530 19:04:27< Gambit> Zerovirus: no.
20100530 19:04:39< Gambit> You're expected to make a merman, a ghoul, and an ostrich rider
20100530 19:04:47< Valkier> a ghoul?
20100530 19:04:54< Gambit> ghast
20100530 19:04:55< Gambit> thing
20100530 19:05:05< Valkier> What for?
20100530 19:05:27< Gambit> because it looks amazing
20100530 19:05:29< Gambit> and it needs animated
20100530 19:05:31< Valkier> lol
20100530 19:05:41< Valkier> Was just wondering if it was going mainline or something
20100530 19:05:47< Gambit> Valkier: yes
20100530 19:05:47< Valkier> Cause if I recall, it looked awesome.
20100530 19:05:51< Gambit> all of those are for mainline!
20100530 19:05:55< Zerovirus> Tooo lazy
20100530 19:05:55< Gambit> even the ostrich rider
20100530 19:06:01< Zerovirus> I don't know where stern went
20100530 19:06:08< Gambit> cause the ostrich rider will go in... some campaign
20100530 19:06:11< Gambit> that will someday go mainline
20100530 19:06:14< Valkier> Will the ghast be campaign only or multiplayer too?
20100530 19:06:14< Zerovirus> I can see Ostrich riders replacing desert elf scouts in UtBS
20100530 19:06:24< Zerovirus> I never understood why they were still using horses in the desert
20100530 19:06:32< Zerovirus> and you're jumping the thunderstick there :P
20100530 19:06:39< Gambit> haha
20100530 19:06:46< Zerovirus> It'll go into the undead campaign if we finish it
20100530 19:06:49< Gambit> Zerovirus: No.
20100530 19:06:54< Gambit> I'm putting the ostrich rider before the cart.
20100530 19:06:59< Zerovirus> and then it might be considered for multiplayer I think
20100530 19:07:31< Zerovirus> Also, I gave up on ever animating that merman already :P
20100530 19:08:21< SekoIdiootti> I don't like GPL anymore... :| I mean... The sprites which I've made LONG time ago, are now "made" by various other people. :S I can prove if people want. Go to art workshop, and check all the war of terrador threads... And these sucky sprites I made long long long time ago: http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss6/Woodmouse-/alien1-hatchling.png http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss6/Woodmouse-/ali
20100530 19:08:23< SekoIdiootti> en1.png http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss6/Woodmouse-/alien1-big.png http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss6/Woodmouse-/mechanic-warrior-489-RRR.png http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss6/Woodmouse-/alien0.png  ...I mean, yeah, they've edited them... and I'm not angry about that, but claiming it's from scratch... and when it's not... :S
20100530 19:08:33< Zerovirus> aaaaaah huge post
20100530 19:08:40< Zerovirus> it looks almost like a spambot advertising viagra :P
20100530 19:08:44< SekoIdiootti> LOL
20100530 19:09:06< SekoIdiootti> but really D:
20100530 19:09:14< Zerovirus> Yeah, I actually know that they're editing your sprites
20100530 19:09:20< SekoIdiootti> how?
20100530 19:09:22< SekoIdiootti> I mean...
20100530 19:09:23< Zerovirus> What you should do to spite them is make better sprites
20100530 19:09:27< Zerovirus> :P
20100530 19:09:28< SekoIdiootti> lol
20100530 19:09:43< Valkier> Yeah. Just get better than them.
20100530 19:09:50< SekoIdiootti> LOL I CANT
20100530 19:09:54< Zerovirus> YES YOU CAN
20100530 19:10:00< Zerovirus> GO BEYOND THE IMPOSSIBLE AND KICK REASON TO THE CURB
20100530 19:10:01< Valkier> HOPE AND CHANGE
20100530 19:10:01< SekoIdiootti> YAY OBAMA
20100530 19:10:02< Valkier> Wait...
20100530 19:10:05< Zerovirus> What
20100530 19:10:17< Zerovirus> ANYWAYS
20100530 19:10:26< Valkier> Believe in the Woodmouse that believes in you!
20100530 19:10:29< Zerovirus> YOUR PENCIL WILL BE THE PENCIL TO PIERCE THE HEAVENS
20100530 19:10:32< SekoIdiootti> lol
20100530 19:10:43< SekoIdiootti> Valkier: ????
20100530 19:10:44< Valkier> Zero and I need to go fist fight now.
20100530 19:10:46< Zerovirus> BECAUSE MICE DON'T PIERCE HEAVENS IN A VERY DIGNIFIED WAY
20100530 19:10:56< Zerovirus> Where's that image macro that goes "place brofist here"?
20100530 19:11:04< SekoIdiootti> lol
20100530 19:11:13< Valkier> Gurren Lagan was amazing. ^_^
20100530 19:11:27< Zerovirus> gigantic mechs are fun to draw
20100530 19:11:34< Gambit> Zerovirus: Speaking of which...
20100530 19:11:36< Zerovirus> I need to post some of my art besides sprites someday
20100530 19:11:42< Gambit> I'm jk. no rush.
20100530 19:11:46< Zerovirus> Gambit go away stop reminding me of my responsibility D:
20100530 19:11:47< Zerovirus> :P
20100530 19:11:49< Gambit> :P
20100530 19:11:54< Gambit> Zerovirus: Take revenge!
20100530 19:12:01< Gambit> keep pestering me about you-know-waht :P
20100530 19:12:02< Valkier> Pfft. And Gambit said he didn't do spriting.
20100530 19:12:05< Zerovirus> I'm like the Spiderman of spriting
20100530 19:12:06< Gambit> actually I think I will work on it after lunch
20100530 19:12:07< Valkier> He's doing it! Indirectly..
20100530 19:12:11< Zerovirus> With great sprites comes great responsibility
20100530 19:12:16< Zerovirus> to do other people's sprites
20100530 19:12:34< Gambit> Zerovirus: You have nagger repellent though now.
20100530 19:12:38< Valkier> I want to do a UMC sometime after summer I think.
20100530 19:12:39< Zerovirus> Maybe when I finish that painting I'll post it in the offtopic art thread
20100530 19:12:45< SekoIdiootti> I'll make a better version of the sprites.
20100530 19:12:53< SekoIdiootti> of the old ones
20100530 19:12:55< SekoIdiootti> lopl
20100530 19:12:55< Zerovirus> Valkier, do a UMC in which you go around fighting artists from the forums defeating them one by one
20100530 19:12:56< SekoIdiootti> *lol
20100530 19:13:07< Valkier> lol
20100530 19:13:09< Zerovirus> and eventually you challenge the tag team of TSI and Jetrel in the final battl
20100530 19:13:09< SekoIdiootti> I mean... the.... old sprites I posted links to
20100530 19:13:11< Gambit> "Rise of the Valkier"
20100530 19:13:11< Valkier> I'd have to be good for that.
20100530 19:13:11< SekoIdiootti> lol
20100530 19:13:22< Zerovirus> Also, your leader's sprite is the one I made for you :P
20100530 19:13:22< Gambit> There's only one problem.
20100530 19:13:32< Valkier> lol!
20100530 19:13:36< SekoIdiootti> OBAMA IS MY DAD!!!?
20100530 19:13:36< Gambit> In order for the final bosses to be representititve of jetrel and tsi
20100530 19:13:37< SekoIdiootti> D:
20100530 19:13:39< Zerovirus> Also, you can only recruit units you contributed art for
20100530 19:13:41< Gambit> and recognizable
20100530 19:13:47< Gambit> you have ot use copyrighted art
20100530 19:13:48< Valkier> Zerovirus: You and I should totally make a campaign some day.
20100530 19:13:50< Zerovirus> So only skeleton and revenant for you Valkier :P
20100530 19:13:53< Zerovirus> Everyone says that
20100530 19:14:02< Gambit> "Zerovirus you and I should do something some day"
20100530 19:14:05< Zerovirus> Gambit said that, I think Aeth said that, Zarel said something about a full game
20100530 19:14:08< Gambit> "Zerovirus you and I should make an era!"
20100530 19:14:19< Gambit> "Zerovirus you and I should make a new game!"
20100530 19:14:20< Valkier> Yeah, but I do portraits!
20100530 19:14:22< Valkier> And you sprite!
20100530 19:14:24< Valkier> And.. and...
20100530 19:14:29< Valkier> Sit in your tower!
20100530 19:14:32< SekoIdiootti> ZERO!!! Let's make something! xD
20100530 19:14:33< Zerovirus> Gambit can do the CFGs for us :P
20100530 19:14:34 * Valkier cries
20100530 19:14:34< Gambit> "Zerovirus you want to be my lead artist on a top secret space addon"
20100530 19:14:42< SekoIdiootti> D:
20100530 19:14:44< SekoIdiootti> xD
20100530 19:14:46< SekoIdiootti> :D
20100530 19:14:47< SekoIdiootti> xD
20100530 19:14:50< SekoIdiootti> ...I'm not spamming
20100530 19:14:56< SekoIdiootti> I'm just being weird
20100530 19:15:00< Zerovirus> alright I think I'm going to show off now
20100530 19:15:01< Zerovirus> brb
20100530 19:15:03< Gambit> "Zerovirus, you want to make a box of macaroni and cheese?"
20100530 19:15:17< Gambit> off for lunch
20100530 19:15:18< Gambit> cya
20100530 19:15:24< SekoIdiootti> bey :8
20100530 19:15:26< SekoIdiootti> :'(:
20100530 19:15:29< SekoIdiootti> *bye :(
20100530 19:16:12< Zerovirus> bye
20100530 19:16:18< SekoIdiootti> Teh person who keeps boots inside his face
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20100530 19:16:22< Valkier> hahLater, Gambit.
20100530 19:16:23< Zerovirus> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=26185&p=431306#p431306
20100530 19:16:27< Zerovirus> There
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20100530 19:16:38< Zerovirus> and I suck at spriting proportional tanks, :P
20100530 19:17:19< Valkier> oooh. I hadn't seen this thing in awhile.
20100530 19:17:21< Valkier> http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/5195/angelevil13jh2.jpg
20100530 19:17:29< Valkier> I forgot I made that.
20100530 19:17:40< Zerovirus> That's going on my list of stuff to sprite
20100530 19:17:47< Valkier> lol
20100530 19:17:49< Zerovirus> It looks like it'd be easier than your later works, less details and stuff
20100530 19:18:04< Valkier> I think it was my first real attempt at digital painting.
20100530 19:18:06< SekoIdiootti> that's awesome :0
20100530 19:18:09< SekoIdiootti> ZERO!!!
20100530 19:18:20< SekoIdiootti> LET'S BOTH MAKE THAT SPRITE!!!
20100530 19:18:22< Zerovirus> I don't really like the sword though... Looks like a blunt... Rectangular prism thing
20100530 19:18:22< Valkier> So what's with the tanks?
20100530 19:18:26< SekoIdiootti> of that thing XD
20100530 19:18:31< SekoIdiootti> Really
20100530 19:18:33< SekoIdiootti> Now
20100530 19:18:33< Valkier> It's a rifle...
20100530 19:18:36< Zerovirus> i'm getting paid to do modern combat sprite things
20100530 19:18:40< Zerovirus> It's a rifle? what?
20100530 19:18:51< Zerovirus> why does it have a handle like a sword then
20100530 19:19:10< Valkier> Can take the blade off and make a knife.
20100530 19:19:40< SekoIdiootti> Zerovirus: You didn't hear. Let's both make a sprite for that. And then make Valkier judge which is better.
20100530 19:19:45< SekoIdiootti> xD
20100530 19:19:45< Zerovirus> I heard
20100530 19:19:47< SekoIdiootti> ok
20100530 19:19:49< Valkier> lol
20100530 19:19:51< Zerovirus> but I really don't think there's a contest here :P
20100530 19:19:59< Valkier> Oh snap!
20100530 19:20:00< Zerovirus> Tell you what, why don't you make one then I'll refurbish it
20100530 19:20:10< SekoIdiootti> :0
20100530 19:20:26< SekoIdiootti> You'll see I'm making it better than anything xD
20100530 19:20:27< SekoIdiootti> xDDDDDDDD
20100530 19:20:54< Zerovirus> also, I really really don't think the evilangel guy's head looks really... I dunno, good. Its saturation change is kinda reversed; I usually desaturate in my shadows, not my highlights.
20100530 19:21:13< Zerovirus> It's like his skin is thin there which lets you see through to a metal skull.
20100530 19:21:13< Gambit> ahhh art speak hurts my head
20100530 19:21:24< Zerovirus> And code speak hurts my head
20100530 19:21:33< Zerovirus> saturation is a very simple concept to understand thoughhhh...
20100530 19:21:47< Gambit> Yeah I know what the words mean
20100530 19:21:53< Gambit> but what do they do when you combine them
20100530 19:21:57< Zerovirus> yeah screw fixing Steelhive, I'll do later
20100530 19:21:58< Gambit> "saturating highlights" meh
20100530 19:22:01< Zerovirus> THEY FUSION DANCE SUPER SAIYAN
20100530 19:22:10< Gambit> LAWL
20100530 19:22:14< Gambit> hahahahaha
20100530 19:22:16< Zerovirus> Time to sprite Valk's art :P
20100530 19:22:16< Valkier> Zerovirus: It's meant to be a glass dome type thing. That's his BRAIN!
20100530 19:22:18< Valkier> Mwahahahaha!
20100530 19:22:32< Valkier> Told you. It was my first attempt at digital painting. :-P
20100530 19:22:35< Zerovirus> Uhh... That was such an Ass Pull :P
20100530 19:22:41< Zerovirus> This is one of the few times that trope applies to art.
20100530 19:23:07< SekoIdiootti> I'M SO MUCH VETTER UNDER BETSSURET!!!
20100530 19:23:11< SekoIdiootti> *BETTER UNDER PRESSURE
20100530 19:23:13< SekoIdiootti> XD
20100530 19:23:17< Valkier> ...
20100530 19:23:20< Zerovirus> that sounded distinctively japanese
20100530 19:23:23< SekoIdiootti> lol
20100530 19:23:40< Zerovirus> yeah screw steelhive, I'll get on that sprite right now Valkier
20100530 19:23:48< Valkier> Woot!
20100530 19:24:30< Zerovirus> I'm pulling my pallete directly off your pic :P
20100530 19:24:44< Valkier> lol. All righty
20100530 19:24:52< SekoIdiootti> Then I'll do that too. LOL
20100530 19:25:08 * Valkier fires the starting pistol
20100530 19:25:39< Zerovirus> I'm going to edit it a bit too
20100530 19:25:46< Zerovirus> How long do you usually take to sprite a unit, Woodmouse?
20100530 19:26:18< SekoIdiootti> hmmm, dunno
20100530 19:26:31< SekoIdiootti> about 20 minutes, or 5 hours
20100530 19:26:33< SekoIdiootti> lol
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20100530 19:27:53< Zerovirus> I'll be spending maybe 40minutes to an hour here.
20100530 19:28:17< SekoIdiootti> ok, me too then xD
20100530 19:28:30< Valkier> I'll uh...
20100530 19:28:32< Valkier> Drink.
20100530 19:29:48 * SekoIdiootti goes to hyper-speed mode by listening death metal when spriting
20100530 19:30:39 * Valkier listens to monk chanting
20100530 19:30:53< Zerovirus> Well, monk chanting induces medieval sprites for me :P
20100530 19:31:05< Zerovirus> I'm listening to Douchbag Warrior while spriting :D
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20100530 19:41:31< Zerovirus> wow this face is proving difficult
20100530 19:41:59< Valkier> I believe in you!
20100530 19:44:06< SekoIdiootti> I don't think the face's so hard to make
20100530 19:44:19< SekoIdiootti> though, I'm making the head like 2 times bigger than it is... ^^;
20100530 19:46:07< Zerovirus> creeping biggerism affects this guy somewhat
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20100530 19:47:40< Zerovirus> okay this is going to take longer than 40 minutes
20100530 19:47:56< SekoIdiootti> ok
20100530 19:47:58< SekoIdiootti> lol
20100530 19:48:02< Valkier> And you said it would be easy.
20100530 19:48:54< Zerovirus> It would be easier
20100530 19:49:00< Zerovirus> the last one took me like 3hours :s
20100530 19:51:37< SekoIdiootti> It keeps getting bigger and bigger... Already 100 pixels...
20100530 19:51:42< SekoIdiootti> D:
20100530 19:51:52< Valkier> lol
20100530 19:51:59< Zerovirus> lol wow
20100530 19:52:07< Zerovirus> I'm keeping it to the size of the previous unit I made
20100530 19:53:20< Valkier> I want this guy done in one pixel!
20100530 19:53:30< SekoIdiootti> :0
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20100530 19:54:41< shadowmaster> SekoIdiootti: we don't care about your sprite enlargement offers.
20100530 19:54:51< SekoIdiootti> :0
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20100530 19:55:03 * Valkier secretly buys 3 boxes
20100530 19:55:09< SekoIdiootti> LOL
20100530 19:55:27< SekoIdiootti> ...It was... it was... I wasn't adversiting, I was just sad and stuff.
20100530 19:55:31< SekoIdiootti> xD
20100530 19:55:44< SekoIdiootti> ...you know, they're different aliens
20100530 19:55:47< SekoIdiootti> they're not biggering
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20100530 19:57:45< Zerovirus> I really should thank you Valk, this is awesome practice for compressing details
20100530 19:57:57< Valkier> Anytime. ^_^
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20100530 20:01:35< Zerovirus> ugh I'm using too many shades of colors
20100530 20:01:39< Zerovirus> my pallete's already up to like 24
20100530 20:02:45< Valkier> Well at this rate, I'll get my work done.. never.
20100530 20:02:48< Valkier> I need food.
20100530 20:05:16< SekoIdiootti> You're shading already? o.o
20100530 20:10:03< Zerovirus> ugh his hand looks like crap
20100530 20:10:07< Zerovirus> been shading for like 30 minutes
20100530 20:11:16< Zerovirus> also I'm spriting to the power rangers theme -trollface-
20100530 20:11:22< SekoIdiootti> :0
20100530 20:11:32< SekoIdiootti> I only start shading just now
20100530 20:13:36< Valkier> I do love buffalo chicken.
20100530 20:13:40< Zerovirus> lol I'm spriting so hard I'm sweating
20100530 20:13:43< Zerovirus> I do love homemade chinese
20100530 20:13:46< Zerovirus> like I have every day :P
20100530 20:15:20< Zerovirus> ugh this guy's legs suck
20100530 20:15:23< Zerovirus> I cna't get them right
20100530 20:15:56< shadowmaster> playing Frankenstein?
20100530 20:16:13< shadowmaster> I'd lend you my legs but they aren't pretty.
20100530 20:16:24< Gambit> Honey I'm home.
20100530 20:16:39 * shadowmaster punches Gambit 
20100530 20:16:56< Gambit> shadowmaster: I Valk still banned?
20100530 20:17:11< shadowmaster> you aren't banned
20100530 20:17:13< Zerovirus> Oh hai
20100530 20:17:20< Zerovirus> me and Woodmouse are having a spriting comtezt
20100530 20:18:00< Gambit> First one to make me my space ship
20100530 20:18:07< SekoIdiootti> ????
20100530 20:18:10< Gambit> gets the honor of having it named "The Bearded Lady"
20100530 20:18:14< SekoIdiootti> lol Gambit
20100530 20:18:31< Gambit> SekoIdiootti is disqualified for laughing at THE GREATEST PIRATE SHIP NAME EVER!
20100530 20:18:39< SekoIdiootti> ok
20100530 20:19:05< Gambit> *ever*
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20100530 20:19:37< Gambit> I challenge anyone to come up with a better pirate ship name.
20100530 20:19:44< Gambit> Cannot be done.
20100530 20:20:14< Valkier> "Fuzzy Unbelievably Cute Kitten" is a better name.
20100530 20:20:26< Gambit> Nope.
20100530 20:20:29< Valkier> Yup
20100530 20:20:32< Gambit> Nope.
20100530 20:20:34< Gambit> Sorry you lose.
20100530 20:20:38< Valkier> Check out the acronym
20100530 20:20:40< Gambit> Go look it up.
20100530 20:20:40< Valkier> I win.
20100530 20:20:45< Gambit> Nope sorry.
20100530 20:20:52< Gambit> Kevin Bacon wasn't in footloose.
20100530 20:23:46< Zerovirus> Wench's Vertigo. Don't ask what kind of situation would cause such a name.
20100530 20:23:58< Gambit> ha
20100530 20:23:59< Zerovirus> Hint: Everyone who thinks my name is better gets spriting karma from me.
20100530 20:24:08< Gambit> Hmmm
20100530 20:24:11< Gambit> Nope sorry.
20100530 20:24:12< Zerovirus> So what is it, Gambit? Keep your pride or keep your sprites?
20100530 20:24:16< Gambit> The Bearded Lady is better.
20100530 20:24:18< Zerovirus> I see you have chosen pride.
20100530 20:24:30< Gambit> I can keep both.
20100530 20:24:34< Gambit> I just won't get new sprites :o
20100530 20:24:46< Gambit> And I'll have to break my "always get permission before jacking art" rule.
20100530 20:24:56< Zerovirus> -asciiface-
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20100530 20:27:07< Zerovirus> yay almost done with body
20100530 20:27:41< Valkier> You are rocking my body?
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20100530 20:28:49< Zerovirus> ...
20100530 20:28:52< Zerovirus> Aaanyways.
20100530 20:28:58< Valkier> Do you want to?
20100530 20:29:00< Zerovirus> now for the head, the hardest part
20100530 20:29:01< Valkier> ;-)
20100530 20:29:07 * Zerovirus steps back a small bit
20100530 20:29:59< Valkier> lol
20100530 20:31:27< Zerovirus> that damn gasmask
20100530 20:31:29< Zerovirus> damn it
20100530 20:32:22< Zerovirus> oh god this guy looks like an Astartes from WH40k
20100530 20:34:21< Valkier> lol
20100530 20:34:41< Zerovirus> that stupid helmet in sprite form looks like a friggin space marine >.<
20100530 20:37:24< Zerovirus> Never mind it looks like a combination of Tahu and a Space Marine
20100530 20:37:34< Zerovirus> and a Necron too
20100530 20:37:40< Zerovirus> Definitely lots of Necron there
20100530 20:38:01< Valkier> hehe
20100530 20:38:37< Zerovirus> I'm wondering exactly how many people know who Tahu is.
20100530 20:38:48< SekoIdiootti> A bionicle
20100530 20:38:50< SekoIdiootti> if you mean that? XD
20100530 20:39:05< SekoIdiootti> Also, I'm done. http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss6/Woodmouse-/forvalkier1.png
20100530 20:39:59< Valkier> Woo
20100530 20:40:02< Valkier> He looks crazy
20100530 20:40:16< Zerovirus> what the hell.
20100530 20:40:19< Zerovirus> I'm not done yet
20100530 20:40:38< SekoIdiootti> xD
20100530 20:40:38< Zerovirus> we'll see who wins Valk's favor :P
20100530 20:40:52< Blarumyrran> The tanks are nice, but the hud is sort of ugly imo
20100530 20:41:00< Valkier> Aww no. I ain't playing that game. :-P
20100530 20:41:11< Zerovirus> The hud is my first attempt at a HUD ever! >.>
20100530 20:41:32< Gambit> Zerovirus: I KNOW WHAT TAHU IS!
20100530 20:41:43< Gambit> But the green one was way cooler
20100530 20:41:48< Zerovirus> Haha goody. You'll see why I said it looks like him.
20100530 20:41:50< Zerovirus> Especially the mask.
20100530 20:41:51< Gambit> Pohatu was the coolest of all time
20100530 20:41:58< Zerovirus> Pohatu was my first set ;_;
20100530 20:42:01< Gambit> of all time
20100530 20:42:01 * Zerovirus nostalgias
20100530 20:42:05< Gambit> Zerovirus: MINE TOO!
20100530 20:42:13< Gambit> He was my first in the second level ones too.
20100530 20:42:14< SekoIdiootti> NO! Onua was awesomes!
20100530 20:42:18< SekoIdiootti> *awesomest
20100530 20:42:27 * Gambit may or may not still get those out now and again
20100530 20:42:29< Zerovirus> yo dawg I'm happy for you but Pohatu was one of the best of all time
20100530 20:42:34< Zerovirus> OF ALL TIME
20100530 20:42:38< Gambit> Zerovirus: YEAH!
20100530 20:42:47< Zerovirus> Besides onua couldn't move his claws :P
20100530 20:42:49< Gambit> But you didn't let him finish :P
20100530 20:42:55< Zerovirus> aaanyways back to spriting
20100530 20:42:57< Zerovirus> screw that
20100530 20:42:59< Gambit> I redid bionicle claws.
20100530 20:43:07< Gambit> You take one of those joint thingers
20100530 20:43:16< Gambit> and then one of the pieces with the round on one end and the cross on the other
20100530 20:43:21< Gambit> and you stick that into the joint thinger
20100530 20:43:32< Zerovirus> I should post my self-MOC.
20100530 20:43:33< SekoIdiootti> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=347397 -.-
20100530 20:43:34< Gambit> and the nyou stick the round hole on the claw onto that
20100530 20:44:06< Zerovirus> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=4030468
20100530 20:44:09< Zerovirus> fear my moc skillz
20100530 20:44:11< Gambit> When I was much younger I would always ask for bionicle.
20100530 20:44:15< SekoIdiootti> NOTE: the ones I did are 5 or 4 years ago
20100530 20:44:18< SekoIdiootti> or dunno
20100530 20:44:21< Gambit> so I have like a $300 bin of bionicle parts
20100530 20:44:23< SekoIdiootti> ...probhably 3
20100530 20:44:24< SekoIdiootti> or something
20100530 20:44:29< Zerovirus> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=395669
20100530 20:44:38< Zerovirus> I also have a few pieces of bionicle art in there
20100530 20:44:44< Zerovirus> nothing spetacular, they're from like 2 years ago
20100530 20:44:55< Zerovirus> I had literally no grasp of shading besides pillows then
20100530 20:44:58< Gambit> hmm I guess I'll have to get mine out and photograph them.
20100530 20:45:17< SekoIdiootti> I'll put some newer ones up, and you'll all die.
20100530 20:45:19< Zerovirus> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=3982351
20100530 20:45:21< SekoIdiootti> Or okay, not
20100530 20:45:23< Zerovirus> I still rather like this one tho
20100530 20:45:35< SekoIdiootti> brb
20100530 20:46:39< Zerovirus> :O
20100530 20:46:43< Zerovirus> I SHOULD DO BIONICLE PIXEL ART STUFF
20100530 20:46:47< Zerovirus> YES THIS IS A GOOD IDEA
20100530 20:46:49< Gambit> Zerovirus: YEAH
20100530 20:46:56< Gambit> But don't call them that
20100530 20:47:00< Gambit> so I can steal them for waesnoth
20100530 20:47:03< Zerovirus> And then I could go post them on bionicle forums :P
20100530 20:47:13< Zerovirus> Actually, several forums I know have sections devoted to pixel art.
20100530 20:47:25< Zerovirus> I'd become awesome instantly. :P
20100530 20:47:49< Zerovirus> I AM TOA TAHOE, TOA OF FOUR WHEEL DRIVE
20100530 20:48:09< SekoIdiootti> lol
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20100530 20:49:56< Zerovirus> oh god these wings are going to take forever aren't they
20100530 20:49:58< SekoIdiootti> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=4499869
20100530 20:50:01< SekoIdiootti> xD
20100530 20:50:06< SekoIdiootti> that's a bit newer one
20100530 20:50:08< SekoIdiootti> XDDDD
20100530 20:50:10< Zerovirus> this file is not yet public
20100530 20:50:12< Zerovirus> you have to deeplink
20100530 20:50:13< SekoIdiootti> :(
20100530 20:50:21< Zerovirus> click until you see nothing but the pic and white bg
20100530 20:50:22< Zerovirus> then link that
20100530 20:50:33< SekoIdiootti> http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Woodmouse/Bionicles/trogh.jpg
20100530 20:50:47< Zerovirus> Not bad.
20100530 20:50:51< Zerovirus> Though I still like mine better :P
20100530 20:50:55< Zerovirus> Do you have a selfMOC?
20100530 20:51:00< SekoIdiootti> no
20100530 20:51:36< SekoIdiootti> http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Woodmouse/Bionicles/gladiator.jpg
20100530 20:51:43< SekoIdiootti> xD
20100530 20:51:53< Zerovirus> valk why do you have to have so many angles in your wings
20100530 20:51:53< Zerovirus> why
20100530 20:52:14< Zerovirus> OMFG COLOR SCHEME MATA NUI DAMN IT
20100530 20:52:41< Gambit> SekoIdiootti: That last one was painful to look at.
20100530 20:52:47< SekoIdiootti> lol
20100530 20:52:59< Gambit> You know they make jointed arms and legs now right?
20100530 20:53:11< SekoIdiootti> yeah, but I'd say that's an year old
20100530 20:54:38< Zerovirus> What, no comments on my works? :P
20100530 20:54:53< Gambit> I made one with roller skates :o
20100530 20:54:55< Zerovirus> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=4030464
20100530 20:55:05< SekoIdiootti> O.O
20100530 20:55:15< Zerovirus> I luv gelu's helmet
20100530 20:55:20< Gambit> Zerovirus: You make bionicle like you do sprites :o
20100530 20:55:27< Zerovirus> why thank you
20100530 20:55:28< SekoIdiootti> OMFG WTF THERES NO SUCH THINGS IN FINLAND YET DDDD:
20100530 20:55:31< SekoIdiootti> :(
20100530 20:55:34< SekoIdiootti> Finland sucks
20100530 20:55:36< SekoIdiootti> lol
20100530 20:55:37< Zerovirus> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=4030465
20100530 20:55:41< Gambit> Zerovirus: You have to learn WML
20100530 20:55:42< Zerovirus> repostan
20100530 20:55:45< Zerovirus> do I now?
20100530 20:55:54< Gambit> Yes
20100530 20:55:58< Gambit> I want to see what you make with it :P
20100530 20:56:06< Zerovirus> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=4030468
20100530 20:56:17< Zerovirus> I still have all 3 assembled, I can get more pics if necessary.
20100530 20:56:24< Zerovirus> now stop distracting me I have to finish this sprite
20100530 20:56:26< Zerovirus> :P
20100530 20:56:57< Gambit> Zerovirus: White one is coolest.
20100530 20:57:11< Zerovirus> He's Certavus
20100530 20:57:14< Zerovirus> I made him for a contest
20100530 20:57:17< Zerovirus> but didn't finish in time to enter
20100530 20:57:19< Zerovirus> :(
20100530 20:58:00< SekoIdiootti> :(
20100530 21:07:03< Zerovirus> alllmost finished
20100530 21:07:08< Zerovirus> just need to do the riflesword thing
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20100530 21:08:02< SekoIdiootti> ok
20100530 21:11:51< Zerovirus> FINISHED
20100530 21:11:51< Zerovirus> YES
20100530 21:12:34< Valkier> Oh snap!
20100530 21:12:38< SekoIdiootti> yay
20100530 21:13:26< Zerovirus> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=26185&p=431322#p431322
20100530 21:13:30< Zerovirus> bow down :P
20100530 21:13:45< Valkier> Hah!
20100530 21:14:18< Zerovirus> rushed a bit on the wings
20100530 21:14:22< Zerovirus> didn't do as much AA as I could have
20100530 21:14:42< Zerovirus> and didn't use as many high lights either
20100530 21:14:44< Zerovirus> too tired :P
20100530 21:14:50< Zerovirus> This sprite took me... Huh. 3 hours.
20100530 21:14:51< Zerovirus> Again.
20100530 21:14:53< Zerovirus> Or was it 4?
20100530 21:15:01< SekoIdiootti> OMFG
20100530 21:15:01< Valkier> I think 2..
20100530 21:15:06< Zerovirus> Now, guys, see why I said it looks like Tahu?
20100530 21:15:12< Zerovirus> Look at that freaking astartes head :P
20100530 21:15:34< Zerovirus> SekoIdiootti: A valuable lesson in detailcompression can be learned from this process.
20100530 21:15:36< Zerovirus> Yours was huge.
20100530 21:15:38< Zerovirus> Mine was tiny
20100530 21:16:00< SekoIdiootti> yeah... but... but... huges are awesome xD
20100530 21:16:04< SekoIdiootti> well, not always but... lol
20100530 21:17:01< Zerovirus> making something small look good takes more skill than making something big.
20100530 21:17:08< Zerovirus> Large just means patience. Small means skill. :P
20100530 21:17:14< Zerovirus> Hence why I hate doing backgrounds.
20100530 21:17:22< SekoIdiootti> yeah, okay...
20100530 21:17:23< SekoIdiootti> lol
20100530 21:17:27< SekoIdiootti> VALKIER!!! POKEMON!!!
20100530 21:17:32< Valkier> NO!
20100530 21:17:37< Valkier> Actually it's more like kodak film!
20100530 21:17:38< SekoIdiootti> lol
20100530 21:17:40< Valkier> NO!
20100530 21:17:44< ancestral> Baby steps… http://mproud.com/wesnoth/bestiary/uniteditor.html
20100530 21:17:50< Valkier> Actually JAZZ is like a new coke! It'll be around forever! HEH HEH HEH
20100530 21:18:12< Zerovirus> Also, when I sprite stuff for Valk I like to keep things to original poses, unlike what you did Woodmouse
20100530 21:18:13< ancestral> Jazz Classic
20100530 21:18:20< Zerovirus> It creates more of a challenge
20100530 21:18:26< Zerovirus> and makes it more related to the original pic
20100530 21:18:43< Zerovirus> ALSO WHOA I LOVE YOU ANCESTRAL
20100530 21:18:52< Valkier> Lookin sexy, Ancestral.
20100530 21:19:01< Zerovirus> added to favorites list
20100530 21:19:24< Zerovirus> ugh my brain hurts from so much spriting
20100530 21:19:28< Blarumyrran> Hot damn, those are some sexy textboxes
20100530 21:19:31< Zerovirus> it's all your fault valk, too much deail
20100530 21:19:32< SekoIdiootti> LOL
20100530 21:19:34< Zerovirus> *detail
20100530 21:19:39< Blarumyrran> Boxes of sexy text
20100530 21:19:51< Zerovirus> Why do the links not work? :P
20100530 21:19:57< SekoIdiootti> Valkier. Tell. Who won. Zero I suppose?
20100530 21:20:09< Zerovirus> He said he waasn't doing favorites :P
20100530 21:20:24< Valkier> Nope.
20100530 21:20:25< SekoIdiootti> ?
20100530 21:20:32< Valkier> I ain't saying one way or the other.
20100530 21:21:00< Valkier> I think you both did your own thing the way you thought best, and I appreciate the interest.
20100530 21:21:10< SekoIdiootti> ok
20100530 21:21:22< Blarumyrran> ancestral, w3c html validator gives 16 Errors, 3 warnings for your site
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20100530 21:22:07< Zerovirus> man this was so much fun
20100530 21:22:09< Blarumyrran> Also, do all units really have a gender?
20100530 21:22:17< Zerovirus> I think we need to have this kind of sprite fight more :P
20100530 21:22:19< Valkier> Skeletons don't.
20100530 21:22:27< Valkier> Mwahahha!
20100530 21:22:36< Zerovirus> Steelhive shouldn't, but Melinath made them all female. >.>
20100530 21:22:38< Blarumyrran> Valkier, most units don't seemingly
20100530 21:22:45< Blarumyrran> But then I thought, amybe they're all male
20100530 21:22:54< Blarumyrran> I wouldn't know
20100530 21:22:54< SekoIdiootti> Zero: yeah
20100530 21:23:00< Valkier> You guys could always sprite my big armored guy.
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20100530 21:23:11< SekoIdiootti> hmmm
20100530 21:23:15< SekoIdiootti> big armored guy?
20100530 21:23:17< SekoIdiootti> where?
20100530 21:23:18< SekoIdiootti> lol
20100530 21:23:40< Valkier> http://forums.wesnoth.org/download/file.php?id=36655&mode=view
20100530 21:23:43< Zerovirus> man the more I look at him the more he looks like a variant space marine
20100530 21:24:04< Zerovirus> Also, doesn't he already have an official sprite?
20100530 21:24:16< Valkier> Not that I'm aware of.
20100530 21:24:20< Valkier> I just made him for fun.
20100530 21:24:34< SekoIdiootti> ohhhh let's do sprite for that now! XDDDDDDDD
20100530 21:24:37< SekoIdiootti> *sprites
20100530 21:24:39< Zerovirus> He's the official portrait for the DoomKnight in IfTU
20100530 21:24:43< Zerovirus> Not now, too tired
20100530 21:24:47< Valkier> Is he?
20100530 21:24:49< Zerovirus> I've burned my art fuel for today
20100530 21:24:50< Valkier> Rock on.
20100530 21:24:57< Zerovirus> Shadowmaster said so, I think
20100530 21:25:10< Valkier> Is that a campign or something?
20100530 21:25:28< Zerovirus> >.<
20100530 21:25:37< Zerovirus> Man Valk you need to play addons more
20100530 21:25:40< Zerovirus> i'll dig up a few links
20100530 21:25:43< Valkier> lol
20100530 21:25:49< Valkier> I don't have time to!
20100530 21:25:56< Valkier> My portraits take forever to complete.
20100530 21:26:04< SekoIdiootti> :0
20100530 21:26:05< Valkier> Once I'm done with skeletons they will go so much faster.
20100530 21:26:24< Zerovirus> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=26022&start=240
20100530 21:26:27< Zerovirus> bottom of the page
20100530 21:26:32< Zerovirus> you were the one who gave it the go-ahead :P
20100530 21:27:18< SekoIdiootti> xD
20100530 21:27:23< Valkier> Nobody ever officially claimed it though.
20100530 21:27:37< Valkier> All that was said it it matched some guys sprite sorta.
20100530 21:28:58< Zerovirus> That'd be Neorice, whose sprites were then adapted by SM to be used in IftU
20100530 21:29:25< Valkier> Well whatever. If it's being used, all good.
20100530 21:29:45< Valkier> I just never saw anyone say "Yes! It is being used!"
20100530 21:29:53< SekoIdiootti> lol
20100530 21:30:09< SekoIdiootti> poke $m so he can tell you
20100530 21:30:12< Zerovirus> You know that disney song 
20100530 21:30:14< SekoIdiootti> I won't, because he'll kill me
20100530 21:30:19< SekoIdiootti> if I do
20100530 21:30:35< Zerovirus> "everybody wants to be a cat"?
20100530 21:30:41< SekoIdiootti> :0
20100530 21:30:48< Zerovirus> I'm thinking about rewriting the lyrics to fit with art
20100530 21:30:53< Zerovirus> "Everybody wants to be an artist"
20100530 21:30:57< SekoIdiootti> ok :O
20100530 21:30:59< SekoIdiootti> öpö
20100530 21:30:59< Zerovirus> I'd have to compress syllables though...
20100530 21:31:00< SekoIdiootti> *lol
20100530 21:31:20< Zerovirus> aaanyways I thin kI'm going outside for a bike ride
20100530 21:31:22< Zerovirus> I need fresh air
20100530 21:31:27< Zerovirus> too much spriting has cause my brain to corrode
20100530 21:31:31< Valkier> pfft
20100530 21:31:41< Valkier> If you're not practicing, someone else is.
20100530 21:31:45< Valkier> And then they get better than you.
20100530 21:31:49< Zerovirus> So?
20100530 21:31:58< Zerovirus> Woodmouse, have fun getting better than me :P
20100530 21:32:45< Valkier> Lame!
20100530 21:32:49 * Valkier goes back to drawing
20100530 21:32:54< SekoIdiootti> :o
20100530 21:33:25< SekoIdiootti> Guh Zero... I won't become better than you... EXCEPT IF I COULD GET A GOOD MOUSE!!! :D
20100530 21:33:28< SekoIdiootti> ...but I can't
20100530 21:33:37< SekoIdiootti> so I have to use a mouse that bounces all over the screen
20100530 21:33:38< SekoIdiootti> :S
20100530 21:34:03< SekoIdiootti> I mean, it doesn't bounce all the time but sometimes
20100530 21:34:05< SekoIdiootti> xD
20100530 21:35:21< Valkier> Go spend like $15 and buy a mouse!
20100530 21:35:27< SekoIdiootti> well...
20100530 21:35:29< SekoIdiootti> I did
20100530 21:35:32< SekoIdiootti> and the new mouse.. bounces
20100530 21:35:35< SekoIdiootti> the earlier one just broke
20100530 21:35:40< Valkier> Logitech?
20100530 21:35:40< SekoIdiootti> for no reason :(
20100530 21:35:44< SekoIdiootti> yeah logitech
20100530 21:35:48< Valkier> Call em up
20100530 21:35:56< SekoIdiootti> I went there, mouse works fine
20100530 21:35:58< SekoIdiootti> :S
20100530 21:36:11< Valkier> Maybe try a white sheet of paper as a mouse pad?
20100530 21:36:16< SekoIdiootti> hmmmm
20100530 21:36:19< SekoIdiootti> I'll try
20100530 21:36:36< Blarumyrran> Some 10 years ago I had a mouse that had a little button on the side that would switch between 2 and 3 buttons mode
20100530 21:36:49< Blarumyrran> In the wrong mode, it would bounce randomly across the screen
20100530 21:36:53< SekoIdiootti> O.o
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20100530 21:47:52< shadowmaster> Valkier: no, it's not being used
20100530 21:48:07< shadowmaster> nobody reminded me of its existence
20100530 21:48:21< shadowmaster> in any case, I'm not sure t's used in dialogs at all
20100530 21:48:40< Valkier> Eh. I just threw it out there in case someone wanted it.
20100530 21:48:46< Valkier> Doesn't really bother me one way or the other.
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20100530 22:14:29< shadowmaster> shikadibot: log 1
20100530 22:14:29< shikadibot> Revision 1 ((no author), 2003-09-15 11:52:41 +0000 (Mon, 15 Sep 2003)):
20100530 22:14:32< shikadibot> New repository initialized by cvs2svn.
20100530 22:14:34< shikadibot> Web interface URL: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&rev=1
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20100530 22:21:37< Zerovirus> What's going on?
20100530 22:22:06< Valkier> Drawing!
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20100530 22:24:40< Zerovirus> Yay, more stuff for me to work on?
20100530 22:26:43< Valkier> Later mayhaps
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20100530 22:32:37< Zerovirus> oh wow tsi you missed all of the fun
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20100530 22:34:26< thespaceinvader> teh funs Zerovirus?
20100530 22:34:39< Zerovirus> We had a spriting thing
20100530 22:34:40< thespaceinvader> i had funs for my birthday
20100530 22:34:45< Zerovirus> Your birthday?
20100530 22:34:52< Zerovirus> When was that? Or is it today? :O
20100530 22:34:52< thespaceinvader> yeah - what was the original piece? i missed that
20100530 22:34:56< thespaceinvader> yeah today
20100530 22:35:06< Unnheulu|Laptop> thespaceinvader, that dude stole a different avatar now
20100530 22:35:08< Zerovirus> Valkier: Post the original piece again will you?
20100530 22:35:14< thespaceinvader> Unnheulu|Laptop: yeah i know
20100530 22:35:15< Unnheulu|Laptop> As artisticdude pointed out
20100530 22:35:17< Zerovirus> Hey as long as he doesn't steal mine :P
20100530 22:35:21< thespaceinvader> i';m still debating what to do about it
20100530 22:35:56< Zerovirus> lock him into a humiliating avatar :P
20100530 22:36:09< Zerovirus> what's the worst sprite still in mainline atm?
20100530 22:36:12< Zerovirus> Make him use that :P
20100530 22:36:26< Unnheulu|Laptop> thespaceinvader, iirc you can remove someones priveliges to an avatar
20100530 22:36:38< Unnheulu|Laptop> So like Zerovirus said give him a really awkward one
20100530 22:36:41< thespaceinvader> aheh, it's tempting
20100530 22:36:41< Zerovirus> http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/5195/angelevil13jh2.jpg
20100530 22:36:43< Zerovirus> Oh there
20100530 22:36:49< Zerovirus> that's the original pic
20100530 22:36:53< thespaceinvader> the best course would be to remove it then remove the privs i suspect
20100530 22:37:07< thespaceinvader> grody
20100530 22:37:13< Zerovirus> NO WAIT I HAVE AN IDEA
20100530 22:37:20< Zerovirus> give him a trollface for an avatar :P
20100530 22:37:22< Zerovirus> and lock it
20100530 22:37:24< Gambit> WE'LLL GLUE MONKIES TO IT!
20100530 22:37:57< Gambit> Oh. Your idea makes more sense.
20100530 22:38:22< thespaceinvader> if i didn't have way too many demands on my spriting time, i would be very tempted to have a crack at that
20100530 22:38:28< Zerovirus> lol
20100530 22:38:31< Valkier> Sorry. Was a bit busy.
20100530 22:38:39< Zerovirus> Eh, already posted it so it's k
20100530 22:38:50< Valkier> kk
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20100530 22:41:06< Valkier> I am slowly going insane! Hurray!
20100530 22:41:22< SekoIdiootti> :o
20100530 22:41:38< Gambit> Valkier: Slowly?
20100530 22:41:54< Gambit> No. I have been graphing your insanity levels over  time for the past three months.
20100530 22:41:56< Valkier> Teehee!
20100530 22:42:17< Gambit> You've been accelerating steadily the entire time so it is no longer "slow".
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20100530 22:44:33< Gambit> PONG
20100530 22:44:54< Valkier> TSI: Your mangos look lovely today.
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20100530 22:47:38< thespaceinvader> Valkier: mangos?
20100530 22:47:54< Valkier> Scooter my daisy heads!
20100530 22:48:11< shadowmaster> uh
20100530 22:49:38< Zerovirus> what'd I miss?
20100530 22:49:47< Zerovirus> I think I've missed something very interesting.
20100530 22:50:06< Valkier> Not especially.
20100530 22:53:22< Gambit> Zerovirus: You missed this: http://video.adultswim.com/robot-chicken/book-of-corrine.html
20100530 22:53:39< Zerovirus> I highly doubt that
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20100530 23:37:40< Hulavuta> I have another WML question
20100530 23:38:00< shadowm_laptop> which is?
20100530 23:38:27< Hulavuta> How do I make it that an event happens a few turns after a variable is reached?
20100530 23:38:38< Hulavuta> Like, I have a variable that triggers and event after two kills
20100530 23:38:50< Hulavuta> I want to make it that two turns after the player gets those kills, an event triggers
20100530 23:41:06< Hulavuta> Well got to go now...
20100530 23:41:22< Hulavuta> I have to go to Outback Steakhouse, so uh, peace out
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20100530 23:42:27< shadowm_laptop> so much patience
20100530 23:53:21< noy> man I feel like I'm entrapping someone 
20100530 23:55:23< Valkier> Noy: WHy?
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20100530 23:56:05< noy> nm
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