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20100613 03:10:33< eleazar_> hello, is there a forum admin in the house?
20100613 03:11:00< eleazar_> i think i fatally fouled up my forum account
20100613 03:11:08< Espreon> shadowmaster: ^
20100613 03:11:20< shadowmaster> eleazar_: what happened?
20100613 03:11:29< eleazar_> i changed my notification email, and it gave me this message: "Your account has been updated. However, this board requires account reactivation on e-mail changes. An activation key has been sent to the new e-mail address you provided. Please check your e-mail for further information."
20100613 03:11:35< eleazar_> but that was 4 hours ago
20100613 03:11:50 * shadowmaster checks
20100613 03:11:52< eleazar_> nothing has shown up in my email inbox
20100613 03:12:08< eleazar_> thanks
20100613 03:16:35< shadowmaster> eleazar_: I'll send you an activation email again
20100613 03:16:43< eleazar_> cool
20100613 03:16:57< shadowmaster> check your inbox
20100613 03:17:28< shadowmaster> FWIW the mailer here doesn't report any problems with sending either mail
20100613 03:19:37< eleazar_> i just sent myself an email, and it came through fine
20100613 03:19:47< eleazar_> but i don't have wesnoth's yet
20100613 03:20:07< shadowmaster> are you sure it's not being mistakenly caught by a spam ilter?
20100613 03:20:10< shadowmaster> *filter
20100613 03:20:29< eleazar_> i don't use a spam filter
20100613 03:21:43< eleazar_> would it be worth trying my other email account?
20100613 03:22:48< shadowmaster> probably
20100613 03:24:51< shadowmaster> eleazar_: okay, check your other account now
20100613 03:25:42< eleazar_> is checking
20100613 03:28:39< eleazar_> nothing yet
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20100613 03:29:11< eleazar_> checked both the webclient and the app
20100613 03:29:50< shadowmaster> I sent a reactivation mail to one of my alt accounts and it came through immediately
20100613 03:31:49< eleazar_> care to send me an email at one of my addresses, just to verify that that's not the problem?
20100613 03:33:53< shadowmaster> sent to the first one
20100613 03:34:16< shadowmaster> note that if you need to post something I can forcefully activate it right now, but if you need to do something that requires emails there'll be trouble (i.e. password recovery); also, PM notifications won't work if our emails are not getting there
20100613 03:34:54< eleazar_> i don't have anything urgent to post
20100613 03:35:49< eleazar_> I dunno.  I'm gonna try a reboot
20100613 03:35:55< eleazar_> can't hurt
20100613 03:36:02< eleazar_> shadowmaster: thanks for trying
20100613 03:36:04< eleazar_> bye
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20100613 03:54:00< eleazar_> shadowmaster: no luck yet.  It must be on my end, since i haven't got your email yet.
20100613 03:54:10< eleazar_> i'll wait a while and see what happens
20100613 03:54:10< shadowmaster> hm
20100613 03:54:31< shadowmaster> sure it wasn't classified as spam by google's filter?
20100613 03:54:58< shadowmaster> I've had that with some people for some reason (must be the "2006" in it)
20100613 03:55:28< eleazar_> i don't * think* i have a filter on gmail, but i'll double check
20100613 03:55:56< shadowmaster> gmail has its own filter by default
20100613 03:55:59< shadowmaster> I don't think it can be disabled
20100613 03:56:21< shadowmaster> spam messages go to a different folder
20100613 03:56:25< eleazar_> OK, i found the spam folder
20100613 03:56:29< eleazar_> nothing in it
20100613 03:56:53< shadowmaster> it has 460 messages here :)
20100613 03:57:29< shadowmaster> and that's just the last month
20100613 03:57:31< eleazar_> gmail is my secondary account
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20100613 07:29:55< Espreon> mordante: Please run the magic WesCamp script.
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20100613 08:28:17< CIA-86> silene * r43395 /trunk/src/ (config.cpp config.hpp): Allowed negative index for accessing from the end of a config object.
20100613 08:28:19< CIA-86> silene * r43396 /trunk/src/serialization/parser.cpp: 
20100613 08:28:19< CIA-86> Fixed nested [+tag] not opening last tags but creating new ones instead.
20100613 08:28:19< CIA-86> Sped up the parser by removing the maps to last tags.
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20100613 10:11:38< Ivanovic> moin
20100613 10:20:30< boucman> morning all
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20100613 13:42:38< Ivanovic> silene: can you maybe have a look at this one? http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=30367&start=0
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20100613 14:00:45< silene> Ivanovic: i will take a look
20100613 14:00:50< Ivanovic> thanks
20100613 14:05:07< silene> Ivanovic: sorry, i won't; the campaign has been heavily modified lately, and not in a backward compatible way; so i can't even load the savegame
20100613 14:05:35< Ivanovic> silene: no 1.8 lying around where you could maybe reproduce the issue?
20100613 14:05:51< Ivanovic> that is: i fear it could be some engine problem that this issue points to
20100613 14:08:49< zookeeper> yes, it's an engine problem
20100613 14:09:53< zookeeper> what happens exactly is this: the player tries to move+attack a unit, which causes a sighted event to trigger at the end of the move but before the attack begins, and that event [kill]s the attacker. the crash occurs after that event finishes, when the attack is supposed to start.
20100613 14:11:09< zookeeper> i'm guessing that bug got introduced when the attack dialog was made to pop up before the move is executed (it used to happen after)
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20100613 14:25:27< zookeeper> strangely enough it looks like the bug doesn't happen if it's a moveto event
20100613 14:26:48< silene> zookeeper: that's what i would have thought too, but the code explicitely checks if attacker and defender are still there, so there is more to it than just the combined move+attack
20100613 14:57:45< Ivanovic> wow, this one is a lovely bug report, especially the priority...
20100613 14:57:58< Ivanovic> s/severity/priority
20100613 14:58:01< Ivanovic> https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?16150
20100613 14:59:13< knotwork> "Devotion to the path of faerie may will eventually transform an elf maiden..." Where do typos get collected, if anywhere?
20100613 15:01:54< Ivanovic> there is a typo page in the wiki
20100613 15:01:56< Ivanovic> one sec...
20100613 15:02:39< Ivanovic> http://wiki.wesnoth.org/SpellingMistakes
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20100613 15:13:26< Ivanovic> huh, this one is interesting... https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?16151
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20100613 15:37:03< alink> hi
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20100613 15:37:41< alink> silene: thanks for the config::get()
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20100613 15:56:21< CIA-86> alink * r43397 /trunk/src/actions.hpp: Use vector instead of deque (not using deque functions)
20100613 15:56:27< CIA-86> alink * r43398 /trunk/src/ (menu_events.cpp menu_events.hpp): Delete unused function
20100613 15:56:28< CIA-86> alink * r43399 /trunk/src/ (resources.cpp resources.hpp): add undo/redo stack to resources
20100613 15:56:30< CIA-86> alink * r43400 /trunk/src/ (mouse_events.cpp mouse_events.hpp play_controller.cpp): 
20100613 15:56:30< CIA-86> Use resources::undo/redo_stack in mouse_handler.
20100613 15:56:30< CIA-86> This simplify include dependency and fix unclean use of members before their initialization
20100613 15:56:32< CIA-86> alink * r43401 /trunk/src/ (menu_events.cpp menu_events.hpp play_controller.cpp): 
20100613 15:56:32< CIA-86> Use resources::undo/redo_stack in menu_events.?pp
20100613 15:56:32< CIA-86> This also fix unclean use of members before their initialization.
20100613 15:56:35< CIA-86> alink * r43402 /trunk/src/ (4 files): 
20100613 15:56:35< CIA-86> Use resources::undo_stack in turn_info.
20100613 15:56:35< CIA-86> This also simplify include dependency.
20100613 15:56:37< CIA-86> alink * r43403 /trunk/src/game_display.cpp: remove useless include
20100613 15:56:39< CIA-86> alink * r43404 /trunk/src/ (dialogs.cpp menu_events.hpp play_controller.hpp): simplify header dependency
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20100613 16:47:37< mordante> servus
20100613 16:52:53< Espreon> alink: Would you please do those fake dash conversions?
20100613 16:53:07< Espreon> mordante: Ic grete þe.
20100613 16:53:13< mordante> hi Espreon 
20100613 16:54:21< Espreon> mordante: Did you get my message?
20100613 16:54:40< mordante> Espreon, where?
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20100613 16:55:05< Espreon> In teh logs.
20100613 16:55:24< mordante> no but I haven't finished reading it yet
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20100613 16:55:34< Espreon> Ah, I see.
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20100613 16:59:23< mordante> Espreon, I just started it
20100613 17:01:45< Espreon> Excellent.
20100613 17:03:37< alink> alink: again these dash things -.-
20100613 17:03:57< alink> Espreon: the "- melee -"  stuff ?
20100613 17:04:25< alink> s/alink/Espreon
20100613 17:04:33< Espreon> Yeah, I want those to be em dashes.
20100613 17:05:01< alink> but they are really longer (with wesnoth fonts)
20100613 17:05:09< Espreon> I know.
20100613 17:05:31< Espreon> I'll look at the results.
20100613 17:05:36< mordante> aren't they simple supposed to be longer?
20100613 17:05:51< Espreon> Exactly.
20100613 17:06:05< alink> yeah but it eats space and in this case make the dialog larger
20100613 17:06:54< Espreon> How much larger?
20100613 17:07:07< alink> 8 pixels I guess
20100613 17:07:15< alink> i post a screenshot
20100613 17:07:43< Espreon> Unless mordante would have  a problem with it... meh.
20100613 17:09:45< alink> http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/8909/dashc.png
20100613 17:10:38< alink> http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9112/dash1.png
20100613 17:11:04< alink> really don't see the gain
20100613 17:11:14< Espreon> Correctness.
20100613 17:11:27< mordante> I've no problem with it, only they look very long
20100613 17:12:11< alink> and it adds weird characters in source :-p
20100613 17:13:05< Espreon> alink: We already have UTF-8 characters in the source code. :P
20100613 17:13:09 * alink regrets when he added these " - melee - ". He should have used another safer character :-/
20100613 17:13:44< mordante> alink, with gui2 they move to WML ;-)
20100613 17:13:58< alink> mordante: good :)
20100613 17:13:58< mordante> at least I think they will
20100613 17:14:39< Espreon> alink: Now, with "power-number"/"power--number", change the fake dash to an en dash.
20100613 17:14:53< alink> Espreon: I was doing that
20100613 17:15:03< Espreon> Excellent.
20100613 17:15:04< alink> since I missed that one the last time
20100613 17:16:24< timotei> Espreon: single dash is fake?:P
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20100613 17:16:38< Espreon> timotei: HYPHEN
20100613 17:16:44< timotei> Espreon: sorry
20100613 17:17:04< Espreon> Þou art forgiven.
20100613 17:17:16< mordante> Espreon, uploading complete
20100613 17:17:30< timotei> thanks
20100613 17:17:39< Espreon> mordante: Þank you.
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20100613 17:18:49< AtomicPancake> How do I report a bug? (sorry >.<)
20100613 17:18:51< CIA-86> alink * r43405 /trunk/src/unit.hpp: remove useless forward declaration
20100613 17:18:52< CIA-86> alink * r43406 /trunk/src/actions.hpp: remove now unneeded include
20100613 17:18:53< CIA-86> alink * r43407 /trunk/src/mouse_events.cpp: In attack dialog, use the same dash as elsewhere between damage-hits.
20100613 17:19:21< timotei> AtomicPancake: here: https://gna.org/bugs/?group=wesnoth
20100613 17:19:32< AtomicPancake> Thank you :)
20100613 17:19:38< timotei> AtomicPancake: on the top menu: Bugs -> Submit
20100613 17:19:59< alink> AtomicPancake: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/ReportingBugs
20100613 17:20:00< timotei> AtomicPancake: if you know surely who should handle it, you can assign to a certain person
20100613 17:20:12< timotei> alink: that's better. thanks
20100613 17:21:25< AtomicPancake> Before I file it, would I be able to ask if the bug has already been reported?
20100613 17:21:31< mordante> Espreon, you're welcome
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20100613 17:22:02< mordante> AtomicPancake, you can search in the tracker or describe the bug here
20100613 17:24:13< AtomicPancake> Alright, the bug is that game is unclickable (I tried running wesnoth -t and it would not allow me to play the test) when in windowed mode, I installed from source using Scons, and i'm using Ubuntu Jaunty (9.04)
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20100613 17:24:41< AtomicPancake> But while in fullscreen mode, the game runs normally
20100613 17:25:02< AtomicPancake> I have version 1.8.2
20100613 17:25:30< mordante> AtomicPancake, no need to report, known bug in the SDL libraries in Ubuntu
20100613 17:25:39< AtomicPancake> Oh ok, Thank you! :)
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20100613 17:26:08< mordante> I'm not sure whether the newer version of SDL is already is in Ubuntu somewhere
20100613 17:26:28< Atomic_Pancake> I had to install SDL from source
20100613 17:26:43< mordante> and that version doesn't work?
20100613 17:26:56< Atomic_Pancake> It works in Fullscreen, not in windowed
20100613 17:27:19< mordante> let me dig up a patch
20100613 17:27:30< alink> is it this one :https://gna.org/bugs/?14770
20100613 17:28:34< mordante> Atomic_Pancake, here's the patch http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=565788#19
20100613 17:28:37< Atomic_Pancake> mordante: that would be it :)
20100613 17:28:49< Atomic_Pancake> errr... alink, my apologies.
20100613 17:29:05< mordante> it was indeed the bug I was looking for
20100613 17:31:50< Atomic_Pancake> Where do I place the .diff fix?
20100613 17:35:13< CIA-86> alink * r43408 /trunk/data/scenario-test.cfg: comment off unsupported image animation for the fire in scenario-test (error msg spam)
20100613 17:36:00< alink> Atomic_Pancake: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patch_(Unix)#Usage_examples
20100613 17:36:12< alink> run in the proper directory
20100613 17:37:03< alink> oh you must rebuild SDL too :-/
20100613 17:37:27< Atomic_Pancake> do I run it in the source folder and then rebuild?
20100613 17:38:38< alink> of libsdl, not wesnoth
20100613 17:38:49< Espreon> alink: Uh, boucman wanted that.
20100613 17:38:52< Atomic_Pancake> Alright, thanks again :)
20100613 17:38:55< Espreon> ... as a reminder or something.
20100613 17:39:26< alink> Espreon: well it's still there, but OK I will post a FR and assign it to him
20100613 17:39:34< Espreon> OK.
20100613 17:40:37< alink> Atomic_Pancake: good luck :)
20100613 17:42:27< Atomic_Pancake> Thank you very much :)
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20100613 17:47:01< alink> it's just me or scenario-test should better be called test-scenario ?
20100613 17:47:52< alink> esp. because it's used by the -t command-line option
20100613 17:48:34< alink> ah, just notice now that there is other scenario-*.cfg :-/
20100613 17:48:41< alink> so maybe forget that
20100613 17:49:51< alink> well, we could rename or move them to a new directory
20100613 17:51:20< alink> and now I discover the test/ directory
20100613 18:04:40< Espreon> alink: But what about "range--type" (I want that to be an en dash) and the one that I initially brought up today?
20100613 18:07:01< alink> Espreon: I am still not convinced, and need to think more about it. So, I didn't touch it yet
20100613 18:08:56< alink> and I noticed that "range--type" don't work well in french, but I am not sure yet how to fix it (just contact the translation team or changing how GUI/ellipse works)
20100613 18:10:58< Espreon> Then make the whole thing translatable.
20100613 18:12:29< alink> The problem don't come from the -- it's long "range" name which push the "--type" too far
20100613 18:13:12< alink> I am considering split it somehow and maybe use ellipse on both or something similar
20100613 18:13:52< alink> which imply modifying how is coded the separation between them
20100613 18:14:24< alink> and is linked to GUI1/theme difference/limitations
20100613 18:15:49< alink> and since longer dash make the problem worse and is in area that I want to change. I wait a little before touching it
20100613 18:16:11< alink> It's not really urgent. (but you will disagree ;-p) 
20100613 18:16:51< Espreon> Well, of course I would. ;)
20100613 18:18:10< Espreon> alink: Actually, in DevaVu Sans, an en dash is shorter than "--"
20100613 18:19:04< alink> IIRC that's not what I saw here when testing it. I'll check again
20100613 18:19:48 * Espreon performed the LOLAbiword test.
20100613 18:20:19< alink> ah but I tested em dash (as you requested at that time IIRC)
20100613 18:20:24< Espreon> No.
20100613 18:20:51 * alink is talking about sidebar
20100613 18:20:54< Espreon> I've always wanted "range--type" to have an en dash.
20100613 18:22:58< alink> then indeed it's shorter
20100613 18:24:01< boucman> hey all
20100613 18:24:10< alink> hi boucman
20100613 18:24:30< alink> boucman: I just assigned one FR for you
20100613 18:24:47< boucman> url plz
20100613 18:24:59< alink> https://gna.org/bugs/?16161
20100613 18:25:40< boucman> mkay
20100613 18:25:49< Espreon> Hello boucman.
20100613 18:25:55< boucman> I don't think it was a reminder for me, but i'll have a look
20100613 18:26:07< alink> boucman: ah ok sry then
20100613 18:26:36< boucman> alink: do you know our input system well ?
20100613 18:26:49< alink> It's not that I wanted personally, but that's sound like something that someone could want
20100613 18:26:59< alink> boucman: you mean hotkeys ?
20100613 18:27:25< boucman> hotkeys and mouse...
20100613 18:27:47< boucman> we'll have to plug things in there with gabba for the whiteboard system, but we have problems figuring the ins and outs
20100613 18:27:59< alink> I know mouse stuff relatively well (often rewrite stuff there)
20100613 18:28:45< alink> but ilor added a new OO layer which I know less
20100613 18:29:10< boucman> k
20100613 18:29:38< alink> boucman: you mean something similar as footsteps functions
20100613 18:30:23< boucman> no, that part is postponed for the moment, we'll use the existing footsteps, it's more about intercepting attacks/recruits/moves
20100613 18:30:49< boucman> at this point i'm not sure exactly what we need, but it's good to know we have someone with knowledge in that area
20100613 18:31:08< alink> attacks/move is in mouse_events.cpp left_click()
20100613 18:31:22< alink> with the slight complication of move+attack
20100613 18:31:33< boucman> k
20100613 18:33:16< alink> boucman: feel free to ask questions when you or gabba have problems 
20100613 18:33:24< alink> *ask me
20100613 18:33:40< boucman> will do, thx
20100613 18:34:30< alink> btw, in the meantime, ":custom wb" to affect the "custom command" hotkey to ":wb"
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20100613 18:36:49< alink> might be interesting to look the waypoints code since it does something vaguely similar (but much simpler) to wb concept
20100613 18:37:08< alink> but it uses hotkey, mouse and path stuff
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20100613 18:37:47< alink> which remind me that i must continue to work on waypoints
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20100613 18:38:36 * alink wonders if any 1.8 users is aware about waypoints
20100613 18:39:40< CIA-86> boucman * r43409 /trunk/data/ (6 files in 3 dirs): fix previous commit, I had upgraded with the wrong macro
20100613 18:47:28< CIA-86> alink * r43410 /trunk/src/marked-up_text.cpp: Use en dash to separate range-damage type in unit preview, as requested by Espreon
20100613 18:47:43< alink> Espreon: ^ one part done
20100613 18:48:08< alink> Espreon: and indeed you asked en dash not em dash
20100613 18:48:48< alink> I was probably confused with the talk about recruit dialog inconsistency where you said <Espreon> alink: Do it like this: "power–number — range" The first dash is an *en* dash; the second is an *em* dash.
20100613 18:49:16< alink> which is irrelevant now
20100613 18:49:37< Espreon> Ah, jeß jeß.
20100613 18:49:42< Espreon> Thanks.
20100613 18:52:25< alink> boucman: I think the last terrain commit did something wrong with the grass
20100613 18:52:36< boucman> yeah, i'm already looking into it
20100613 18:52:40< alink> ok
20100613 18:52:54< boucman> not sure how that happened, I thought I had tested it thoroughly...
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20100613 18:53:45< alink> but it almost look like an interesting new way to show the hex grid by using terrain transition :-)
20100613 18:53:52< boucman> :P
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20100613 18:55:20< Espreon> alink: Indeed.
20100613 18:55:27< Espreon> However, it scares me.
20100613 18:55:45< Espreon> Papa boucman, make it go away!
20100613 18:55:47< Espreon> LOL.
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20100613 18:56:46< boucman> don't worry kiddo, everything's going to be alright
20100613 18:56:56< Espreon> Yay!
20100613 18:58:22< Espreon> alink: Ah, Wesnoth is starting to become beautiful.
20100613 18:59:29< alink> Espreon: Well the pretty sprites did half of the work <:o)
20100613 18:59:55< Espreon> I am talking from a typographical perspective.
20100613 19:00:22< alink> of course
20100613 19:01:27< alink> Espreon: I bet you always wanted to replace all the sprites of your local copy by rendered fonts, and play with an Unicode rogue-like mode 
20100613 19:02:41< Espreon> HA HA HA, nah...
20100613 19:02:52< Espreon> Perhaps I should create an Era of Typography.
20100613 19:03:23< alink> yeah, no pixel-art skill needed
20100613 19:03:45< Espreon> :D
20100613 19:04:49< Espreon> I should also create the Era of Scripts.
20100613 19:05:49< Espreon> Hmmmmm... what about portraits?
20100613 19:06:36< alink> A nicely written description is enough
20100613 19:06:41< alink> or use emoticon :-)
20100613 19:06:42< Espreon> Maybe I should actually make these.
20100613 19:06:48 * Espreon rolls his eyes
20100613 19:07:20< Espreon> Diacritics could give power/abilities... blah blah blah... awesome!
20100613 19:10:59< CIA-86> boucman * r43411 /trunk/data/core/terrain-graphics/ (internal-border.cfg internal-complex.cfg): fix previous commit
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20100613 19:16:36< CIA-86> alink * r43412 /trunk/src/menu_events.cpp: Reactivate :undiscover but with a confirmation dialog to prevent 'accident'
20100613 19:16:46< CIA-86> alink * r43413 /trunk/ (changelog players_changelog): update changelogs
20100613 19:17:30< Espreon> boucman: Sometimes I get these: 20100613 12:56:24 error display: could not open image 'terrain/fog-1.png'
20100613 19:17:47< boucman> hmm
20100613 19:17:55< Espreon> I get them when turning fog on and off, but it doesn't always happen.
20100613 19:18:11< boucman> Espreon: fog is out of the terrain engine, I could have a look, but a-priori I don't know more than you do
20100613 19:18:34< Espreon> OK.
20100613 19:18:42< Espreon> boucman: Also, this: 20100613 12:56:24 error display: could not open image 'terrain/fog0.png'
20100613 19:18:50< alink> not "fog1.png" ?
20100613 19:19:10< Espreon> alink: Nope, that never appears.
20100613 19:19:55< alink> then the bug is the use of '-' between fog and 1.
20100613 19:20:06< alink>  Should be an en dash I guess ;-p
20100613 19:20:21< Espreon> alink: No, no.
20100613 19:20:43< Espreon> I only give a shit about text that is presented to the player... you know... in the actual game?
20100613 19:20:54< alink> Espreon: I was kidding
20100613 19:21:01< Espreon> Jeß jeß...
20100613 19:21:03< alink> fog0.png is indeed missing
20100613 19:23:10< alink> ah i see the fog0 bug
20100613 19:23:26< alink> and the fog-1 bug too
20100613 19:23:42< alink> boucman: ok, I will fix it
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20100613 19:26:27< CIA-86> alink * r43414 /trunk/src/display.cpp: Quick fix to errors reporting missing fog0.png or fog-1.png
20100613 19:26:43< alink> Espreon: should fix it (not tested)
20100613 19:27:15< Espreon> OK, it may take awhile to confirm.
20100613 19:27:25< Espreon> Oooh, a new Pango release...
20100613 19:27:54< alink> but we should use a nicer noise function there. I will try to use the one that I added in terrain building
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20100613 19:29:51< alink> OtOH the difference in fog?.png seems too small to see the repetitive pattern
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20100613 19:32:00< alink> boucman: editor doesn't start
20100613 19:32:04< alink> error general: Error loading game configuration files: 'preprocessor symbol 'TRANSITION_COMPLETE' expects 3 arguments, but has 4 arguments at campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/utils/terrain_graphics.cfg:23 included from campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/_main.cfg:160 included from _main.cfg:11' (The game will now exit)
20100613 19:32:31< boucman> alink: thx, looking into it right away
20100613 19:33:27< alink> might be needed to recheck all campaigns when all terrain changes are done
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20100613 19:35:09< CIA-86> boucman * r43415 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/utils/terrain_graphics.cfg: fix editor refusing to start
20100613 19:37:14< alink> boucman: thanks
20100613 19:37:23< boucman> np, 
20100613 19:43:42< CIA-86> ai0867 * r43416 /trunk/ (data/scenario-test.cfg src/actions.cpp): Break off an attack if the combatants are no longer enemies
20100613 19:44:00< Espreon> Well, let's just say that I don't have to water my bamboo...
20100613 19:44:12< Espreon> ('Tis raining heavily here)
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20100613 19:47:01< CIA-86> espreon * r43417 /trunk/src/menu_events.cpp: Improved the question in the undiscover confirmation dialog.
20100613 19:47:33< Espreon> Oh, wait...
20100613 19:49:01< Espreon> Nope, I'm fine.
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20100613 19:53:30< alink> Espreon: thanks, I didn't pay too much attention since it was debug stuff (but I should)
20100613 19:53:41< Espreon> You are welcome.
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20100613 20:00:57< CIA-86> boucman * r43418 /trunk/data/core/terrain-graphics/internal-border.cfg: make transition use [image] out of [tile] this allows transition to overlap on both hex
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20100613 20:19:17< mordante> gabba we normally use doubles for floating point values
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20100613 20:19:56< mordante> gabba regarding the initialization, when a value is not explicitly initialized it's default initialized
20100613 20:20:27< mordante> for classes this means the default constructor, for the basic types it means do nothing and be happy with whatever happens to be in the memory
20100613 20:21:07< mordante> in the past we had some bugs due to that, hard to find and not really reproducible 
20100613 20:21:31< mordante> so I had to use valgrind, which is a great tool, but very slow (especially on slower systems)
20100613 20:21:53< mordante> gcc can detect those not initialized fields, but makes no difference between the type 
20100613 20:22:22< mordante> therefore I initialize them all also when not really needed, but otherwise they keep showing up in the compiler output
20100613 20:22:37< mordante> I'm off now
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20100613 21:49:11< CIA-86> eleazar * r43420 /trunk/data/core/terrain-graphics.cfg: fixed a couple transition glitches i couldn't figure out before.
20100613 21:52:41 * Espreon just loves the fact that Wesnoth now takes forever to start
20100613 21:53:11< Espreon> Hmmmmmm...
20100613 21:53:13< CIA-86> eleazar * r43421 /trunk/data/core/images/terrain/swamp/swamp.png: The swamp image i forgot to add two commits ago.
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20100613 21:59:56 * timotei thinks Espreon is just too slow for running Wesnoth
20100613 22:00:34< King_Elendil> lol
20100613 22:01:15< timotei> Espreon: better play on wesnoth 0.5 or something like that :P maybe that won't take forever
20100613 22:01:17< Espreon> timotei: Well, it's not like I have a quad-core processor and over nine thousand GB of RAM!
20100613 22:01:37< timotei> 9 thousand GB of ram :O
20100613 22:01:38< timotei> wow
20100613 22:01:45< timotei> well, you need also a plane video card ;))
20100613 22:02:01< Espreon> No, my card is fine, the drivers that are available just suck!
20100613 22:02:20< timotei> :P
20100613 22:02:28< timotei> ok guys, I'll leave now
20100613 22:02:32< Espreon> Also, startup is the only issue, it runs well once it's up.
20100613 22:02:37< timotei> see you over next week :D
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20100613 22:03:54< Espreon> Hmmm... I guess that other processes were just... yeahz.
20100613 22:03:58< Espreon> Meh, oh well.
20100613 22:04:11< Espreon> I have been compiling a lot today...
20100613 22:04:19< Espreon> ... and once I start compiling a lot of things... yeahz.
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20100613 22:07:42< Espreon> Tch, too slow for Wesnoth my ass...
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20100613 22:11:50< CIA-86> alink * r43422 /trunk/src/ (6 files in 2 dirs): simplify header dependency
20100613 22:11:54< CIA-86> alink * r43423 /trunk/src/ (7 files in 3 dirs): Simplify header dependency
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20100613 22:45:58< CIA-86> eleazar * r43424 /trunk/data/core/images/terrain/unwalkable/chasm-convex2-bl.png: an alternate edge transition for testing random transitions.
20100613 22:46:24 * boucman hopes his last commit works :) ^^^ 
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20100613 23:06:33< CIA-86> ai0867 * r43425 /trunk/images/ (16 files in 3 dirs): Convert some images to RGBA
20100613 23:07:04< CIA-86> eleazar * r43426 /trunk/data/core/images/terrain/hills/ (regular2-s.png regular2-se.png regular2-sw.png): proof of concept for random transitions: variant transitions for the upper side of hills.
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20100613 23:31:15< CIA-86> ai0867 * r43427 /trunk/data/core/images/ (74 files in 13 dirs): Convert some images to RGBA
20100613 23:34:01< Espreon> AI0867: Perhaps you should talk to Jetrel, thespaceinvader, et cætera about the Great Image Screw Up.
20100613 23:35:00< AI0867> =P
20100613 23:36:24< CIA-86> espreon * r43428 /trunk/images/misc/ (blank.png waypoint.png): 
20100613 23:36:24< CIA-86> Ran wesnoth-optipng:
20100613 23:36:24< CIA-86> Overall statistics (only for files with a smaller recompressed size):
20100613 23:36:24< CIA-86> Original size: 2 KiB on 2 files
20100613 23:36:24< CIA-86> Optimized size: 1 KiB
20100613 23:36:25< CIA-86> Total saving: 0 KiB = 36% decrease
20100613 23:36:27< Espreon> Wait...
20100613 23:36:46< AI0867> huh?
20100613 23:36:55< Espreon> AI0867: Hmmm... that wesnoth-optipng run seemed to have converted those to Gray+A.
20100613 23:37:43< AI0867> could you run png_format_check on them?
20100613 23:38:03< Espreon> ... and it confirms.
20100613 23:38:22< AI0867> okay, wesnoth-optipng is misconfigured then?
20100613 23:38:58< Espreon> I guess.
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20100613 23:45:11< Espreon> boucman: Snow/ice–ford... is not pretty.
20100613 23:45:44< boucman> Espreon: i'm about to leave any minute now... is it a new bug 1.9 vs 1.8 ?
20100613 23:46:21< Espreon> boucman: Uh, it has to do with Eleazar's new ford.
20100613 23:46:46< boucman> oh, if it's artisticy, then I can't help :P
20100613 23:47:26< Espreon> boucman: No, no, I am sure that it has to do with the terrain system.
20100613 23:47:33< Espreon> Just open the editor and see for yourself.
20100613 23:47:52< boucman> Espreon: not tonight, I have a plane at 7am tomorow, I should already be sleeping... 
20100613 23:47:59< boucman> can we discuss it tomorow evening ?
20100613 23:48:10< Espreon> Of course.
20100613 23:48:16< boucman> ok, g'night then
20100613 23:48:20< Espreon> Goodnight.
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20100613 23:51:41< CIA-86> ai0867 * r43429 /trunk/images/misc/ (blank.png waypoint.png): Revert r43428, as wesnoth-optipng appears to be somewhat broken
20100613 23:53:23< CIA-86> alink * r43430 /trunk/src/ (mouse_events.cpp mouse_events.hpp): 
20100613 23:53:23< CIA-86> Fix a crash happening when the shroud clearing just before a fight triggered
20100613 23:53:23< CIA-86> a sighted event killing the attacker (or similar changes).
20100613 23:53:23< CIA-86> Need to be ported to 1.8 (but probably in a less invasive form)
20100613 23:53:24< CIA-86> Reported in forum http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?t=30367
20100613 23:53:56< alink> silene, zookeeper: ^this fix the bug discussed earlier today
20100613 23:54:22< zookeeper> cool
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20100613 23:55:26< alink> not directly linked to move+attack but more probable with it. I suspect that some cases using 'delayed shroud update' could trigger it too
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20100613 23:55:35< AI0867> Espreon: I can't reproduce your optipng run, can you run each of the commands in wesnoth-optipng in order and check which command converts it to grayscale+alpha?
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20100613 23:58:07< Espreon> AI0867: OK, but it'll take a bit.
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