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20100626 00:02:02< zookeeper> i'm guessing someone ought to tell eleazar that he ought to tell esr about some of his changes.
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20100626 00:10:54< Ivanovic> time to get some sleep, n8 everybody
20100626 00:12:29< Espreon> zookeeper: Oh?
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20100626 00:20:30< shadowmaster> zookeeper: you could do that.
20100626 00:21:31< shadowmaster> although it'd always be nice if esr watched the changes as they occur instead of complaining one month later.
20100626 00:21:45< Upth> Espreon: I copied the SVN properties from one of the files that already existed, either tortoiseSVN is bad at dealing with props, or that other file had its properties wrong
20100626 00:22:29< Espreon> I see.
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20100626 00:27:17< Espreon> Upth: Try doing what billynux suggested.
20100626 00:28:22< billynux> :)
20100626 00:28:51< Upth> oh, I see what the problem was
20100626 00:29:10< Upth> I tried to set the properties before I added the file to the SVN
20100626 00:29:24< Upth> the hpp file has them right, because it was added first
20100626 00:32:47< Upth> unfortunately, billynux's instructions are for running the commandline client on linux
20100626 00:32:58< Upth> I am running the shell-integrated client on windows.
20100626 00:33:13< billynux> Mm... well, figure auto how to enable auto-props
20100626 00:33:22< billynux> s/auto/out/
20100626 00:33:48< billynux> and set hpp cpp c and h files to use these properties
20100626 00:33:49< Espreon> Upth: TortoiseSVN still uses regular SVN's config files, so, yeahz...
20100626 00:34:20< billynux> or... set them yourself every time you add a file, but there is the off chance that you'll forget about it from time to time
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20100626 00:43:11< Upth> Espreon: well there is no file or directory "config" in any of wesnoth's .svn directories, and there is no generalized sobversion config file that I can find, so I believe your thesis is false
20100626 00:44:47< billynux> I'm off, bye y'all
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20100626 00:46:18< ABCD> Upth: do you have a directory named ".subversion" somewhere, perhaps?
20100626 00:46:31< Upth> ABCD: no.
20100626 00:47:19< Upth> fortunately, I found documentation http://tortoisesvn.net/docs/nightly/TortoiseSVN_en/tsvn-dug-propertypage.html
20100626 00:48:07< ABCD> "You can edit the subversion configuration file to enable this feature on your client. The General  page of TortoiseSVN's settings dialog has an edit button to take you there directly."
20100626 00:49:04< Upth> well, I cannot find the subversion configuration file
20100626 00:50:01< ABCD> how about you open up "The General  page of TortoiseSVN's settings dialog" and hit the "edit button to take you there directly"?
20100626 00:50:03< ABCD> :D
20100626 00:55:03< Upth> it seems like tsvn:autoprops is a better option, assuming tsvn is smart enough not to commit settings that apply only to itself
20100626 00:55:34< Upth> since tsvn:autoprops will let me set the autoprops on wesnoth without applying them to anything else
20100626 01:13:20< Aethaeryn> \
20100626 01:13:28< Aethaeryn> whoops
20100626 01:13:34< Aethaeryn> I hate the location of the \ key.
20100626 01:13:36< Aethaeryn> I blame DOS.
20100626 01:14:11< Aethaeryn> in fact, \ is so rare that the | should be the regular character and \ only through shift.
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20100626 01:17:59< ABCD> Aethaeryn: I think \ has been there since before DOS used it...
20100626 01:18:25< Aethaeryn> not sure
20100626 01:18:29< Aethaeryn> this is the standard IBM PC keyboard
20100626 01:18:51< Aethaeryn> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Space-cadet.jpg 
20100626 01:18:52< Aethaeryn> hmmm
20100626 01:23:19< CIA-87> eleazar * r43724 /trunk/data/core/ (terrain-graphics.cfg terrain.cfg): improved flower overlay. Still needs a lot more alternate images.
20100626 01:23:41< CIA-87> eleazar * r43725 /trunk/data/core/images/terrain/embellishments/ (4 files): improved flower overlay. Still needs a lot more alternate images. Part 2. Done... for now..
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20100626 01:34:52< Upth> really what they need to do on keyboards is move the enter key so that it is not adjacent to any keys that cause symbols to appear or disappear.
20100626 01:35:07< shadowmaster> wesbot: seen silene
20100626 01:35:07< wesbot> shadowmaster: The person with the nick silene last spoke 18h 41m ago.  1h 33m ago they left with the message: Quit: Leaving.
20100626 01:35:20< Upth> touching \ is bad enough, but on a number of keyboards I have owned, it touches backspace
20100626 01:35:26< shadowmaster> silene: what's the "proper" way to get an int value from a config nowadays?
20100626 01:35:47< Upth> so if you don't extend your pinky quite far enough, you end up sending the message instead of erasing it
20100626 01:36:14< shadowmaster> for example, if I have a config node with an attribute "downloads"  which represents an int. Can I just construct an int like this? int a = cfg["downloads"];  ?
20100626 01:37:56< Upth> I don't think so but let me check
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20100626 01:39:32< Upth> looks like you should be able to, actually.
20100626 01:42:58< Upth> shadowmaster: I probably should have highlighted you on those past two lines
20100626 01:43:43< Upth> shadowmaster: yes, you can do int a = cfg["downloads"]"
20100626 01:44:09< Upth> and if cfg["downloads"] isn't an int, you'll get 0 out of it.
20100626 01:44:22< shadowmaster> nice
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20100626 02:56:45< shadowm_laptop> a surprising amount of spam accounts have been registered during the last few days using Yahoo email accounts :|
20100626 02:57:11< shadowm_laptop> I've been banning them before they can post though, but all of them match the following criteria:
20100626 02:57:21< shadowm_laptop> spammy signature, odd all-lowercase username
20100626 02:57:29< shadowm_laptop> and @yahoo.com accounts
20100626 02:58:40< shadowm_laptop> there's one user who registered and filled their user profile info with a suspicious website link but I'm not banning them until I get a signature/post proof
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20100626 02:59:35< shadowm_laptop> 8 yahoo-based spam accounts since June 21st
20100626 02:59:52< shadowm_laptop> I guess it must be really easy to create accounts on Yahoo nowadays
20100626 03:01:02< shadowm_laptop> I'm tempted to write some hack that displays "You are using a Yahoo account! Please switch to a provider that doesn't allow itself to be abused by spammers and try registering again!" to users trying to register with a @yahoo.* address
20100626 03:01:08< shadowm_laptop> :D
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20100626 03:01:27< shadowm_laptop> I'm just kidding in case it's not obvious enough.
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20100626 03:03:23< shadowm_laptop> but it would be a good idea to automatically add them to some sort of watch list - except that I already examine every newly registered member's profile info before they can post at all
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20100626 03:41:13< shadowm_laptop> phew, finished the GUI1 part of the addons manager refactoring.
20100626 03:41:38< shadowm_laptop> although I postponed reimplementing the add-on publish/delete entries.
20100626 03:42:22< shadowm_laptop> now to cleanup the networking part, add the filesystem part and figure out how to make this work as elegantly as possible with GUI2
20100626 03:45:09< Bob_The_Mighty> is it possible to deny access to the recall list for a limited time?
20100626 03:45:36< shadowm_laptop> for a whole scenario, yes
20100626 03:46:22< shadowm_laptop> you can also store the recall list away to make it unavailable for an arbitrary amount of turns/scenarios
20100626 03:46:33< Bob_The_Mighty> how so?
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20100626 03:48:27< shadowm_laptop> the latter can be done like this: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/YXzDXZwr
20100626 03:49:27< shadowm_laptop> the former can be done by setting disallow_recall to "yes" at [scenario] level
20100626 03:52:50< Bob_The_Mighty> thanks
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20100626 04:00:40< elvish_sovereign> shadowm_laptop: can you help me look at this: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/cBQEc4uJ
20100626 04:01:17< elvish_sovereign> in {VARIABLE ability_poisoned_unit[$i].hitpoints -4}
20100626 04:01:23< Bob_The_Mighty> shadowm_lapttop: will that make them unstore onto the map, or just become available again as recalls?
20100626 04:01:40< elvish_sovereign> it makes the unit actually having -4 hp
20100626 04:01:48< elvish_sovereign> how do it make it gradual?
20100626 04:02:19< shadowm_laptop> Bob_The_Mighty: that will unstore them into the recall list
20100626 04:02:21< Bob_The_Mighty> {VARIABLE_OP blah add -4}
20100626 04:02:35< elvish_sovereign> thanks Bob_The_Mighty
20100626 04:02:40< Bob_The_Mighty> okay
20100626 04:03:43< elvish_sovereign> and how can i make that particular unit immune to poison?
20100626 04:05:02< Bob_The_Mighty> make it undead, mechanical?
20100626 04:05:11< elvish_sovereign> wait now the unit has 4 hp
20100626 04:05:18< shadowm_laptop> add an object that uses the same [effect] used by the undead or mechanical traits
20100626 04:05:42< elvish_sovereign> ok, i'll try
20100626 04:05:44< shadowm_laptop> [effect] apply_to,add=status,not_living
20100626 04:06:05< elvish_sovereign> but it should be vulnerable to drain and plague
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20100626 04:06:08< shadowm_laptop> note that it'll also make them immune to plague
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20100626 04:06:09< shadowm_laptop> and drain
20100626 04:06:16< elvish_sovereign> oh wow
20100626 04:06:32< shadowm_laptop> yeah, there's no intuitive way to make them immune to poison only
20100626 04:07:07< elvish_sovereign> anyways, i've tried {VARIABLE_OP ability_poisoned_unit[$1].hitpoints add -4}
20100626 04:07:09< shadowm_laptop> you could have an event that makes sure every time it's that unit side's turn to unpoison them
20100626 04:07:25< shadowm_laptop> or every time it gets hit by an attack that has the poison special
20100626 04:07:34< elvish_sovereign> okay
20100626 04:07:41< elvish_sovereign> but with the hp issue first
20100626 04:07:59< shadowm_laptop> why ability_poisoned_unit[$1] ?
20100626 04:08:11< elvish_sovereign> http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/Jzd6Tcr1
20100626 04:08:19< shadowm_laptop> unless you have a variable named "1", and ability_poisoned_unit is really an array, that'll not work
20100626 04:08:21< elvish_sovereign> I got the code from zookeeper
20100626 04:08:29< elvish_sovereign> ok
20100626 04:08:32< shadowm_laptop> ah, $i
20100626 04:08:37< shadowm_laptop> not $1
20100626 04:09:11< elvish_sovereign> there really should be a #wesnoth-wml channel
20100626 04:09:36< shadowm_laptop> okay, that should work
20100626 04:10:09< elvish_sovereign> but it reduces the unit's hitpoints to 4
20100626 04:10:31< elvish_sovereign> rather than gradual
20100626 04:10:50< shadowm_laptop> are you sure you have tried after changing the code to {VARIABLE_OP ability_poisoned_unit[$i].hitpoints add -4} ?
20100626 04:11:02< elvish_sovereign> i;m trying again
20100626 04:11:51< shadowm_laptop> (and after reloading wesnoth or at least refreshing the cache)
20100626 04:12:10< elvish_sovereign> now it changed the unit's hitpoints to -2
20100626 04:12:41< shadowm_laptop> what was its HP before?
20100626 04:12:58< elvish_sovereign> testing with debug and a blood bat, so 26
20100626 04:13:27< elvish_sovereign> it first wrote 2 hitpoints, then when i moved my cursor over it, it dropped to -2
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20100626 04:13:45< shadowm_laptop> hm, how many sides are in that scenario?
20100626 04:13:54< shadowm_laptop> I believe turn refresh is triggered for every side
20100626 04:14:00< elvish_sovereign> 8
20100626 04:14:03< elvish_sovereign> oh
20100626 04:14:28< elvish_sovereign> so should i rename it side turn?
20100626 04:14:48< shadowm_laptop> in such case it'd probably trigger after the healing phase
20100626 04:15:00< shadowm_laptop> so you'd want to add a condition to check for side_number == 1 instead
20100626 04:15:28< elvish_sovereign> sorry, can you show me on pastebin?
20100626 04:15:33< elvish_sovereign> i'm a little slow today
20100626 04:16:02< shadowm_laptop> http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/jsLDf3E6
20100626 04:16:32< shadowm_laptop> it may improve performance for other side's turns if the [variable] node goes before the [have_unit] node
20100626 04:16:47< shadowm_laptop> (how much? probably a few millisecs)
20100626 04:17:18< elvish_sovereign> testing...
20100626 04:18:23< elvish_sovereign> worked!
20100626 04:18:42< elvish_sovereign> thanks!
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20100626 04:19:04< elvish_sovereign> i just nee to work the text so it looks like it's poisoned and work out the attack filtering
20100626 04:19:34< elvish_sovereign> but really, there should be a #wesnoth-wml channel, it'll help a lot of people, esp people lik me :)
20100626 04:22:42< elvish_sovereign> how do i negate resting?
20100626 04:23:53< shadowm_laptop> I think I never figured it out :(
20100626 04:24:12< shadowm_laptop> I remember messing around with unit.resting and getting all kind of random results
20100626 04:24:21< elvish_sovereign> hmmm...actually....
20100626 04:24:59< elvish_sovereign> maybe I'll get a better effect if i used status=poison and messed with the details...
20100626 04:25:01< elvish_sovereign> dunno
20100626 04:36:16< elvish_sovereign> shadowm_laptop: can I use [sound] within [unstore_unit]?
20100626 04:36:33< elvish_sovereign> it looks as if i can't, is there a workaround?
20100626 04:38:00< shadowm_laptop> depends on waht you think it should do
20100626 04:38:38< elvish_sovereign> i'm simulating poison, so i want poison.ogg to play as i unstore the unit.
20100626 04:38:47< elvish_sovereign> i guess i could put it after?
20100626 04:38:47< shadowm_laptop> if you want to play a sound as the unit is unstored, play the sound after or before [unstore_unit]
20100626 04:38:53< elvish_sovereign> ok
20100626 04:38:54< elvish_sovereign> \
20100626 04:39:11< shadowm_laptop> stuff happens so quicky that the user won't notice the delay
20100626 04:39:16< shadowm_laptop> *quickly
20100626 04:39:35< shadowm_laptop> i.e. the delay will generally be less than 1/100 of a second
20100626 04:42:59< elvish_sovereign> shadowm_laptop: there isn't a filter for weapon specials
20100626 04:47:26< shadowm_laptop> there is
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20100626 04:47:45< elvish_sovereign> where? or i should ask, what?
20100626 04:48:02< shadowm_laptop> [event][filter_attack]special=  [event][filter_second_attack]special=
20100626 04:48:16< shadowm_laptop> for the primary unit and secondary_unit, respectively
20100626 04:49:02< elvish_sovereign> would it be special={WEAPON_SPECIAL_POISON}?
20100626 04:49:07< elvish_sovereign> or just special=poison?
20100626 04:49:13< shadowm_laptop> if that doesn't work, then I'd be sad, since I am the one who fixed/reimplemented it
20100626 04:49:30< shadowm_laptop> special=poison, since that's the special's id attribute
20100626 04:49:37< elvish_sovereign> ok thanks
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20100626 04:49:45< elvish_sovereign> lemme try and test
20100626 04:49:48< shadowm_laptop> you can check data/core/macros/abilities.cfg for the specials' definitions and their ids
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20100626 05:05:23< elvish_sovereign> okay ive tried this: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/MJJV44KY and it doesn't remove the poison upon attack
20100626 05:09:49< shadowm_laptop> elvish_sovereign: are you sure it doesn't work only the first time?
20100626 05:09:58< shadowm_laptop> I mean.
20100626 05:10:10< shadowm_laptop> that should work only the first time
20100626 05:10:16< shadowm_laptop> since the event isn't first_time_only=no
20100626 05:10:27< elvish_sovereign> right
20100626 05:10:30< elvish_sovereign> lemme try
20100626 05:10:35< shadowm_laptop> ah, wait, "attack" is the wrong event
20100626 05:10:48< shadowm_laptop> that'll trigger at the beginning of the attack action before any hits
20100626 05:11:12< elvish_sovereign> so attack end?
20100626 05:11:21< shadowm_laptop> you want "attacker hits"
20100626 05:11:46< shadowm_laptop> also note that you'll want a similar event (but with the filtered units reversed) for "defender hits"
20100626 05:12:00< elvish_sovereign> ok
20100626 05:13:47< elvish_sovereign> uh it doesn't work
20100626 05:14:24< shadowm_laptop> hm
20100626 05:14:29< shadowm_laptop> first_time_only=no, right?
20100626 05:14:32< elvish_sovereign> oh wait
20100626 05:14:42< elvish_sovereign> i messed up the testing
20100626 05:16:05< elvish_sovereign> wait is there such thing as [filter_attack_second]?
20100626 05:16:27< elvish_sovereign> oh 
20100626 05:16:36< elvish_sovereign> [filter_second_attack]
20100626 05:18:17< elvish_sovereign> nope
20100626 05:19:22< elvish_sovereign> http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/1d5fWi67
20100626 05:23:41< shadowm_laptop> you went for side turn?
20100626 05:23:57< shadowm_laptop> with the side_number check a "turn refresh" event should work as well
20100626 05:24:24< elvish_sovereign> yeah i forget to chage that
20100626 05:24:28< elvish_sovereign> change*
20100626 05:24:48< shadowm_laptop> anyway, the reason it doesn't work in attacks/defense is that you are iterating over an array that doesn't exist
20100626 05:24:50< elvish_sovereign> but do the attacker/defender hits stuff loook okay?
20100626 05:25:02< elvish_sovereign> oh
20100626 05:25:08< shadowm_laptop> lines 50-58, and 70-78
20100626 05:25:21< shadowm_laptop> [status] is not a valid action tag in a event either.
20100626 05:25:34< shadowm_laptop> let me fix that code
20100626 05:25:35< elvish_sovereign> so how do it fix it?
20100626 05:25:41< elvish_sovereign> okay thanks :)
20100626 05:27:25< shadowm_laptop> http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/bBYgkC3s
20100626 05:27:34< shadowm_laptop> that's the relevant attack/defense portion
20100626 05:28:17< elvish_sovereign> thanks testing...
20100626 05:29:31< elvish_sovereign> it didn;t work
20100626 05:31:07< elvish_sovereign> augh I'm tired
20100626 05:31:22< elvish_sovereign> I'll finish this tomorrow...
20100626 05:31:54< elvish_sovereign> thanks for all of your help and sorry for derailing this channel with all my wml problems :)
20100626 05:41:46< shadowm_laptop> np
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20100626 06:59:56< shadowmaster> sigh.
20100626 07:00:01< shadowmaster> I'm reading campaignd's code again.
20100626 07:00:52< shadowmaster> just to make sure I can generalize both publish and locally installed addons' information in the form of a C++ struct.
20100626 07:01:21< shadowmaster> so apparently I can.
20100626 07:01:50 * shadowmaster wishes campaignd out of existence
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20100626 07:05:21< silene> shadowmaster: yes, int a = cfg["whatever"];
20100626 07:12:00< shadowmaster> blargh, I'll not generalize this thing. I'll keep .pbl info aside for validation.
20100626 07:12:52< shadowmaster> although there's actually no client-side validation to be done.
20100626 07:14:11< shadowmaster> the .pbl contents are validated at the server. I guess this kind of makes sense so the server doesn't need to rely on sane clients and it doesn't need to duplicate functionality either.
20100626 07:16:10< shadowmaster> hm, I wonder if itd make sense to make a separate publishing interface that lets people review/change settings such as addon versions, descriptions, etc.
20100626 07:17:20< shadowmaster> in such case I'd really have the install/update GUI1 interface refactoring completed and I could write the publish part in GUI2.
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20100626 09:01:42< Ivanovic> moin
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20100626 10:57:01< Ivanovic> hmm, this one sounds like an interesting crash: https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?16195
20100626 10:57:09< Ivanovic> no idea though who should be check if
20100626 10:57:13< Ivanovic> s/if/it
20100626 10:57:29< Ivanovic> though since animation are mentioned: boucman, do you maybe want to have a look?
20100626 10:57:42< Ivanovic> could likely be some broken wml, but that should not make things crash
20100626 10:59:16< Ivanovic> zookeeper: https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?16194
20100626 10:59:40< Ivanovic> https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?16193
20100626 11:00:00< boucman> i'd be very suprised if it was animation related...
20100626 11:01:04< Ivanovic> boucman: me, too
20100626 11:01:12< Ivanovic> boucman: but whom else to ask for a first test?
20100626 11:01:13< Ivanovic> ;)
20100626 11:04:26< Ivanovic> btw, is it just me or is there basically zero happening currently in branches/1.8 (beside some translation updates)
20100626 11:04:58< Espreon> Ivanovic: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=437934#p437934
20100626 11:07:30< zookeeper> boucman, the drake thing is, of course, animation related
20100626 11:07:46< zookeeper> DRAKE_FLYING_ANIM doesn't include that terrain in the latter list
20100626 11:07:48< Ivanovic> zookeeper: i think boucman means the "interesting crash"
20100626 11:08:07< zookeeper> nevermind, it actually does
20100626 11:08:32< boucman> zookeeper: huh ?
20100626 11:08:43< zookeeper> the standing anim filters look right at least in trunk
20100626 11:10:06< boucman> indeed...
20100626 11:11:07< zookeeper> ooookay, he means _movement anims_
20100626 11:11:15< zookeeper> jesus, how hard can it be to write something like that clearly?
20100626 11:11:32< Ivanovic> very!!!
20100626 11:11:33< Ivanovic> ;)
20100626 11:11:36< zookeeper> the movement anim filters don't include that terrain
20100626 11:12:20< boucman> zookeeper: i'll let you fix it, then...
20100626 11:15:01< CIA-87> zookeeper * r43726 /trunk/data/core/macros/animation-utils.cfg: Tabs to spaces and probably fixed bug #16194.
20100626 11:17:10< zookeeper> oh, and actually it does affect the standing anims too; someone's just left in an old macro in animation-utils.cfg which is used only by the armageddon drake, which confused me.
20100626 11:17:35< zookeeper> and of course the old macro works right but the new one didn't -.-
20100626 11:18:47< zookeeper> it'd seem like DRAKE_UNWALKABLE_TERRAINS should use sensible wildcarding, but since it doesn't, i'm going to assume there's a reason for it and not touch it (now i just added the abyss to the list)
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20100626 17:17:23< zookeeper> freim, were you working on the desert mountains yet? if so then maybe you want to mention it on http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30530
20100626 17:18:07< freim> zookeeper: no, I dropped it as no one liked them
20100626 17:21:01< CIA-87> torangan * r43727 /trunk/ (changelog data/hardwired/fonts.cfg fonts/DejaVuSans.ttf): font update
20100626 17:21:41< zookeeper> freim, right, i forgot it was actually that recent
20100626 17:22:37< CIA-87> torangan * r43728 /branches/1.8/ (changelog data/hardwired/fonts.cfg fonts/DejaVuSans.ttf): font update
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20100626 18:15:09< CIA-87> eleazar * r43729 /trunk/data/core/images/terrain/flat/ (12 files): further enhancements to the flat bank. Ice version only.
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20100626 18:40:20< zookeeper> wow, starting trunk took like 3-5 minutes again. anyone figured out yet what causes that?
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20100626 19:06:38< silene> zookeeper: for me, it takes 25s to start without an uptodate cache and 5s with an uptodate cache; perhaps you have broken addons?
20100626 19:08:44< silene> (values above are for the test scenario, divide them by two for the title screen)
20100626 19:08:49< zookeeper> silene, no, doesn't look like it. besides, other people have complained about that too, at least shadowmaster.
20100626 19:09:38< silene> zookeeper: 13s is a fine startup time in my opinion (especially since it happens only once), so i won't be the one to investigate it
20100626 19:09:39< zookeeper> my build is r43640, just 4 days old
20100626 19:10:31< elias> what if you start without any addons?
20100626 19:13:20< zookeeper> trying...
20100626 19:15:36< zookeeper> nope, getting the same even without add-ons.
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20100626 19:20:48< zookeeper> urgh, something seriously slows down fast replays when observing a BoL game. each turn takes like >10 seconds to get through.
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20100626 19:31:24< silene> zookeeper: strangely enough, i have the opposite problem to you; while the game starts fine, it has a lot of trouble to exit; nowadays it takes several seconds to close while it should be instant
20100626 19:37:07< zookeeper> silene, right
20100626 19:37:22< zookeeper> ok, what the heck do these errors really mean? error engine: Trying to add Mayor Jolleson - Mayor Jolleson - 95 (59,84) over Harry - Harry - 95 (4,3). The new unit will be assigned underlying_id=96 to prevent duplicate id conflicts.
20100626 19:37:34< zookeeper> what's that 95?
20100626 19:38:19< silene> the underlying id
20100626 19:39:14< zookeeper> so how is it possible that the game has given the same underlying id to several units to begin with?
20100626 19:39:31< zookeeper> there's no fancy store/unstore trickery going on between those two units
20100626 19:39:37< zookeeper> in fact they're completely unrelated AFAICT
20100626 19:40:09< zookeeper> i'm getting a crapload of those when observing a BoL game on the 1.8 server
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20100626 19:40:42< zookeeper> so maybe it's specific to observing/replays...i haven't seen those before myself
20100626 19:49:05< silene> zookeeper: it may indeed be specific to replays (by the way, underlying ids were implemented by suokko)
20100626 19:56:20< zookeeper> oohhh....i see :P
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20100626 22:02:20< timotei> grr. git doesn't pick all file changes:(
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20100626 22:12:46< CIA-87> timotei * r43730 /trunk/utils/java/eclipse_plugin/README.tex: eclipse plugin: update the readme for upcoming updates
20100626 22:12:54< CIA-87> timotei * r43731 /trunk/utils/java/ (77 files in 31 dirs): eclipse plugin: update to xtext 1.0.0 (phase 1)
20100626 22:12:55< CIA-87> timotei * r43732 /trunk/utils/java/eclipse_plugin/README.tex: eclipse plugin: simplify the installs needed to setup plugin workspace
20100626 22:13:01< CIA-87> timotei * r43733 /trunk/utils/java/eclipse_plugin/META-INF/MANIFEST.MF: eclipse plugin:update to xtext 1.0.0 (phase 2)
20100626 22:13:08< CIA-87> timotei * r43734 /trunk/utils/java/ (32 files in 11 dirs): eclipse plugin: update to xtext 1.0.0 (phase 3)
20100626 22:18:28< timotei> shadowmaster: hey :D
20100626 22:18:42< timotei> shadowmaster: around? I have a git issue
20100626 22:18:53< shadowmaster> what is it?
20100626 22:19:33< timotei> if you look her: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth/trunk/utils/java/ there are 3 directories, that didn't get erased. but on my machine I've "git rm -rf" on them
20100626 22:19:37< timotei> s/her/here
20100626 22:20:14< shadowmaster> git-svn doesn't handle removal of empty directories correctly, mainly because plain git doesn't care about directories unless there are files in them
20100626 22:20:32< shadowmaster> so you'd need to use svn rm on the remote path to destroy the empty directories
20100626 22:21:00< shadowmaster> (I'm assuming that they are empty directories)
20100626 22:21:41< timotei> you're right. there is a full empty directories tree
20100626 22:21:44< timotei> OK i'll try with svn
20100626 22:22:27< shadowmaster> svn rm svn+ssh://shadowmaster@svn.gna.org/svn/wesnoth/path/to/empty/directory
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20100626 22:22:35< shadowmaster> replace shadowmaste with your actual username
20100626 22:23:18< timotei> ok
20100626 22:23:53< CIA-87> timotei * r43735 /trunk/utils/java/org.wesnoth.wml.ide/: delete empty dirs
20100626 22:24:26< CIA-87> timotei * r43736 /trunk/utils/java/org.wesnoth.wml.ide.generator/: delete empty dirs
20100626 22:24:54< timotei> good. Thanks
20100626 22:24:56< CIA-87> timotei * r43737 /trunk/utils/java/org.wesnoth.wml.ide.ui/: delete empty dirs
20100626 22:25:03< shadowmaster> no problem
20100626 22:25:18< timotei> and I have another one issue. I've added some new files, but it won't see some of the new added directories/files
20100626 22:25:38< timotei> I git add utils/java (it takes adding recursevly right?) and nothing:|
20100626 22:25:48< timotei> although, non -svn files didn't showed up as new files
20100626 22:26:15< timotei> http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth/trunk/utils/java/org.wesnoth.wml/ should have a "src", and "src-gen" directory, but nothing:|
20100626 22:26:37< shadowmaster> if they are directories, they aren't empty, right?
20100626 22:26:43< timotei> yes. not empty
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20100626 22:28:12< shadowmaster> have you tried adding the missing directories directly? also, do they contain files that could be affected by some .gitignore pattern?
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20100626 22:29:25< timotei> well, they are .java files but I'll check it again
20100626 22:30:16< shadowmaster> well, that shouldn't be ignored
20100626 22:30:24< timotei> yes. it isn't
20100626 22:30:27< shadowmaster> also there isn't any .gitignore file in trunk. Odd.
20100626 22:30:44< timotei> ok. trying to add a file directly and see
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20100626 22:30:55< timotei> (they don't apeear in the "untracked section" either)
20100626 22:31:22< timotei> omg
20100626 22:31:38< timotei> The following paths are ignored by one of your .gitignore files:
20100626 22:31:40< timotei> utils/java/org.wesnoth.wml/src/org/wesnoth
20100626 22:31:41< timotei> fail =))
20100626 22:31:47< timotei> I've added "wesnoth" in .gitignore
20100626 22:31:59< timotei> but it seems it took both for name of an application or directory
20100626 22:32:07< shadowmaster> ...yes
20100626 22:32:41< timotei> uhu
20100626 22:32:43< timotei> works now
20100626 22:32:58< ABCD> timotei: try changing that line in .gitignore to "/wesnoth"
20100626 22:33:00< timotei> well. damn it
20100626 22:33:01< shadowmaster> try adding !wesnoth/
20100626 22:33:15< timotei> ABCD: tried: ./wesnoth
20100626 22:33:18< shadowmaster> i.e. after the wesnoth line
20100626 22:33:30< ABCD> /wesnoth is "wesnoth in the current directory"
20100626 22:33:37< ABCD> ./wesnoth is a bit different
20100626 22:33:42< timotei> ok. it works :D
20100626 22:34:08< ABCD> and .gitignore never works on files that are already in the repository (AIUI)
20100626 22:34:09< timotei> ABCD: thanks for the tip
20100626 22:34:12< shadowmaster> I am suggesting !wesnoth/ so it'll still ignore the "wesnoth" executable anywhere but not ignore directories named "wesnoth"
20100626 22:34:25< timotei> shadowmaster: oh. understood
20100626 22:34:28< ABCD> good point
20100626 22:34:35< timotei> it works /wesnoth
20100626 22:34:58< timotei> !wesnoth/ not :(
20100626 22:35:01< Rhonda> ABCD: Erm, it does.
20100626 22:35:18< shadowmaster> aw
20100626 22:35:19< timotei> shadowmaster: it shows me wesnoth and wesnothd in untracked files
20100626 22:35:21< Rhonda> ABCD: They will stay ignored for a git commit -a, e.g.
20100626 22:35:27< ABCD> oh
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20100626 22:35:45< ABCD> but who uses git commit -a?
20100626 22:35:58< timotei> modified files?
20100626 22:36:05< shadowmaster> what the hell is wrong with git commit -a ?
20100626 22:36:21< shadowmaster> if I know they are versioned files
20100626 22:36:34< shadowmaster> also I always check the commit summary before going :wq on it
20100626 22:36:41< ABCD> shadowmaster: I do `git add foo bar baz`, then `git commit`, so I know I'm only committing what I want to commit :D
20100626 22:37:18< shadowmaster> if I realize I forgot about changes that should not go in the same commit then I go :q!
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20100626 22:37:45< shadowmaster> and add those I really want manually
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20100626 22:40:44< Rhonda> Quite some people do use git commit -a.
20100626 22:40:54< Rhonda> That's why it's there in the first place, you know.
20100626 22:43:02< timotei> I use commit -a, when want to commit everything, and don't want to "git add" individually"
20100626 22:44:17< Rhonda> I regularly use commit -a -m when I know what files I've just touched, which often is just debian/changelog or similar.
20100626 22:44:33< Rhonda> And I often enough use git status -s for checking things before.
20100626 22:44:44 * Rhonda . o O ( or git stat as shorthand alias )
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20100626 23:06:19 * ABCD aliased git st to git status :D
20100626 23:06:35< timotei> :P
20100626 23:06:46< timotei> .
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20100626 23:20:20< timotei> haha 1.6 GB of memory usage with Eclipse :D
20100626 23:21:24< zookeeper> is that what it'll take to use the UMC plug-in? ;)
20100626 23:21:45< timotei> no :D
20100626 23:22:18< zookeeper> phew
20100626 23:22:44< timotei> it i'll take roughly 200-300 mB
20100626 23:22:56< timotei> maybe, I'll try and optimize it when it's finished 
20100626 23:24:26< timotei> if I run the plugin only eclipse, it has 250MB (and I've got many more plugin than the UMC)
20100626 23:24:33< timotei> s/plugin/plugins
20100626 23:24:39< zookeeper> i really have no idea what eats up all that memory that apps use these days. like pageant, which just stores some ssh keys and often uses like 8mb of memory. what on earth does it use it on?
20100626 23:26:17< CIA-87> timotei * r43738 /trunk/utils/java/org.wesnoth.wml/ (66 files in 18 dirs): eclipse plugin: update to xtext 1.0.0 (added missing files)
20100626 23:26:19< timotei> oh 8 mb... that's "much":D
20100626 23:26:26< CIA-87> timotei * r43739 /trunk/utils/java/org.wesnoth.wml.ui/ (33 files in 16 dirs): eclipse plugin:update to xtext 1.0.0 (added missing files)
20100626 23:26:36< timotei> well don't really now... maybe it doesn't store just ssh keys
20100626 23:26:37< CIA-87> timotei * r43740 /trunk/utils/java/org.wesnoth.wml/src/org/wesnoth/WML.xtext: eclipse plugin: update the wml grammar (not fully working yet)
20100626 23:26:47< CIA-87> timotei * r43741 /trunk/utils/java/ (22 files in 9 dirs): eclipse plugin: wml grammar update - editor
20100626 23:26:54< timotei> ok I'm out
20100626 23:26:57< timotei> goodbye everyone
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20100626 23:42:48< Valkier> Could someone link me to the trunk data? Damn Chrome dumped everything.
20100626 23:44:36< shadowmaster> shikadibot: dir /trunk/data
20100626 23:44:37< shikadibot> Web interface URL to directory /trunk/data: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth/trunk/data
20100626 23:45:33< Valkier> Much appreciated.
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