--- Log opened Thu Jun 10 00:00:09 2010
20100610 00:00:40 * Valkier hugs shadowmaster with kittens and baby penguins
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20100610 00:34:34< shadowmaster> sigh
20100610 00:34:51< shadowmaster> ondemand is the active cpufreq governor, yet it got stuck at 1 GHz
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20100610 01:42:11< Valkier> Someone just asked if my ghoul portrait did in fact have a "ink nipple"
20100610 01:42:14< Valkier> pink*
20100610 01:42:32< Valkier> How do you answer that without either making them look stupid or yourself?
20100610 01:45:46< Elvish_Pillager> also: why would you try to answer that question without making a stupid person look stupid?
20100610 01:46:14< Valkier> Civility isn't dead.
20100610 01:46:22< Valkier> It's just on life support.
20100610 01:46:42< Elvish_Pillager> well, as an independent individual, you're not obligated to pay for its life support.
20100610 01:46:49< Elvish_Pillager> Also, how about "No"?
20100610 01:47:06< Valkier> But it is a nipple. It is clearly a nipple.
20100610 01:47:20< Elvish_Pillager> so "Ye"?
20100610 01:47:22< Elvish_Pillager> *Yes
20100610 01:47:23< Valkier> Is is the correct shape, location, and size to be called a nipple.
20100610 01:47:59< Valkier> Because if I have to actually say that it is, I feel as though I may lose faith in myself and him.
20100610 01:48:16< Elvish_Pillager> well they asked the question.
20100610 01:51:53< shadowmaster> Valkier: good answer to Monroid
20100610 01:52:36< Valkier> lol. I changed it though.
20100610 01:52:40< Valkier> I felt kind of like a dick.
20100610 01:53:06< shadowmaster> what was it before "Yes. Yes it is." then?
20100610 01:53:11< Valkier> oh.
20100610 01:53:25< Valkier> "I'm not sure how to answer this without insulting either one of us."
20100610 01:54:57< Valkier> I PMed him apologizing as well.
20100610 02:04:06< Gambit> shadowmaster: I just had a hilarious computer moment.
20100610 02:04:18< Gambit> nah nvm I'll blog about it
20100610 02:04:20< Gambit> and then tell you.
20100610 02:04:22< Gambit> You'll laugh.
20100610 02:04:27< Valkier> I wanna hear!
20100610 02:06:10< Gambit> Bascially my sisters laptop has been getting SUPER HOT lately
20100610 02:06:13< Gambit> and giving her lots of trouble
20100610 02:06:24< Gambit> and it got stuck in an infinite boot sequence like an hour and a half ago
20100610 02:06:36< Gambit> I finally got it to the OS and I find that she has 0.7% free space.
20100610 02:06:39< Gambit> -_-
20100610 02:06:49< Gambit> 17gb of photographs
20100610 02:06:57< Gambit> She's had a camera since christmas...
20100610 02:07:10< Gambit> ~6100 photos
20100610 02:07:19< Gambit> on a 54gb HDD.
20100610 02:07:45< Gambit> The free space she has left on the harddrive will fit on my second oldest thumbdrive.
20100610 02:09:19< Valkier> Jesus...
20100610 02:09:26< Valkier> Yeah, delete some of that.
20100610 02:09:30< Valkier> Or add more in for the lolz.
20100610 02:09:40< shadowmaster> lol
20100610 02:09:47< shadowmaster> because
20100610 02:09:55< shadowmaster> HDD usage shouldn't have anything to do with that
20100610 02:10:10< Valkier> But it does!
20100610 02:10:22< Valkier> Windows needs room to strut.
20100610 02:10:26< shadowmaster> only if you are using a paging file on a hard disk partition without enough free space
20100610 02:10:32< loonycyborg> 54gb of photos? I wonder what's their resolutions..
20100610 02:10:32< AI0867> Espreon: Evangelion is 90s stuff. It's also godlike (and the original http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GainaxEnding)
20100610 02:11:34< shadowmaster> also, if there's not enough RAM to run without a paging file in case its creation fails at startup
20100610 02:11:50< shadowmaster> a few MBs should be enough for temporary files
20100610 02:12:03< AI0867> Espreon: start a "black hand" page on tvtropes
20100610 02:12:08< shadowmaster> the main boot sequence doesn't require writing any file but the paging file
20100610 02:12:31< shadowmaster> on Windows NT/2000/XP/Vista/7 anyway
20100610 02:12:45< shadowmaster> s/any file/any large file/
20100610 02:13:38< shadowmaster> AI0867: he doesn't like tvtropes
20100610 02:14:19< AI0867> 23:49 < shadowmaster> even Visual C++ uses it IIRC <-- in my experience, it uses UTF-8 w/ BOM by default (and CRLF of course)
20100610 02:15:14< shadowmaster> a test Win32 project here seems to use Windows 1252
20100610 02:15:34< AI0867> which version of MSVS?
20100610 02:15:54< AI0867> we use 2008
20100610 02:16:10< shadowmaster> 2008 Express Edition here
20100610 02:16:28< AI0867> and "make reformat" (a ton of scripts to format the sources more to my liking) consistently strips the UTF-8 BOM off new source files
20100610 02:16:51< AI0867> along with trailing whitespace, carriage returns, tabs and other things...
20100610 02:17:01< AI0867> s/.../…
20100610 02:18:02< shadowmaster> AI0867: maybe it does in Netherlands copies
20100610 02:18:08< shadowmaster> of the operating system core files, that is
20100610 02:18:34< AI0867> mostly english
20100610 02:18:53< shadowmaster> I don't see any BOM in one of the generated project's source files through a binary editor
20100610 02:19:02< shadowmaster> binary editor standing for MS-DOS EDIT in /b mode here
20100610 02:19:47< shadowmaster> * /70, not /b
20100610 02:20:49< Gambit> shadowmaster: Well yeah the HDD space has nothing to do with the infinireboot. Seeing as the infinireboot is gone and the HDD is still full.
20100610 02:21:01< Gambit> The computer is just not healthy.
20100610 02:21:22< Gambit> the infinireboot was a temperature thing I think.
20100610 02:21:29< Gambit> Because we left it cool down and it booted fine.
20100610 02:21:41< Gambit> At first it was hot enough to fry an egg on.
20100610 02:21:53< Gambit> You could get first degree burns just sitting it on your lap.
20100610 02:21:58< shadowmaster> you shouldn't use the laptop under such conditions
20100610 02:22:32< AI0867> --- a/Source/Visual_Studio/MGB_handelaar_server/ShortestPath.cs
20100610 02:22:32< AI0867> +++ b/Source/Visual_Studio/MGB_handelaar_server/ShortestPath.cs
20100610 02:22:32< AI0867> @@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
20100610 02:22:32< AI0867> -<U+FEFF>using System;
20100610 02:22:32< AI0867> +using System;
20100610 02:22:54< AI0867> yes, that's C#
20100610 02:23:12< shadowmaster> maybe it does prefer UTF-8 for C#
20100610 02:23:52< AI0867> the reformat line in my makefile:
20100610 02:23:53< AI0867> reformat: dos2unix tab2space nuke-bom nuke-whitespace
20100610 02:24:10< AI0867> which are all targets that do roughly what they say
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20100610 02:30:15< Espreon> AI0867: Heh, maybe I should.
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20100610 02:47:07< Espreon> Valkier: Please recommend a grotesque manga for me, for I am bored.
20100610 02:47:59< Espreon> Valkier: Also, "for the lolz"... seriously?
20100610 02:48:50< Gambit> It's "lulz"
20100610 02:48:52< Gambit> For the last time.
20100610 02:48:55< Gambit> Espreon: ONE PIECE!
20100610 02:49:07< Espreon> Gambit: I don't feel like reading "One Piece".
20100610 02:52:41< Valkier> Espreon: Berserk
20100610 02:53:10< Espreon> Valkier: Other than that (just in case I read through it in like... three seconds).
20100610 02:53:17< Valkier> Rape, murder, mutilation, insanity, gore, death, biolence. All there.
20100610 02:53:25< Valkier> Eh, you won't. It's a pretty long running manga.
20100610 02:53:30< Espreon> OK.
20100610 02:53:52< Valkier> But all that happens on just about every single page.
20100610 02:55:09< Espreon> Ah, that's the stuff.
20100610 02:55:16< Gambit> Espreon: Air Gear
20100610 02:55:28< Espreon> This should keep Espreon a happy Espreon for a while.
20100610 02:55:39< Espreon> Gambit: Ehhhh... I stopped reading that awhile ago.
20100610 02:55:41< Gambit> It started out really really good.
20100610 02:55:49< Gambit> But then it turned into manga for perverts
20100610 02:56:02< Gambit> Fan service overload starting at issue 30ish.
20100610 02:56:16< Gambit> It had such an original idea.
20100610 02:56:27< Gambit> Roller skates that go super fast and let you jump super high.
20100610 02:56:31< Gambit> And you fight while wearing them.
20100610 02:56:45< Gambit> But no. We had to put more and more focus on tits than on story and action.
20100610 02:57:04< Valkier> "Bottomline, the series flows and goes around naturally, never out of surprising twists, never out of fuel, despite the sometimes awkward first 3 volumes. However, it is not intended for children and even less for Moral Guardians since the graphic violence and uncensored sex scenes might give their squeamish little hearts a stroke." - Berserk
20100610 02:57:43< Espreon> Gambit: Jeß, I know.
20100610 02:58:06< Valkier> Calling what happens "sex" is a little off. I can't think of one moment with someone naked that doesn't end in tears.
20100610 02:58:15< Valkier> Well, there is ONE. But only ONE.
20100610 02:58:22< Gambit> She liked it.
20100610 03:00:44< Valkier> Lemme know what you think then, Espreon.
20100610 03:01:16< Espreon> Valkier: Wait, what?
20100610 03:01:25< Valkier> If you read Berserk.
20100610 03:01:39 * Espreon is reading it.
20100610 03:02:08< AI0867> gone
20100610 03:02:51< Espreon> LOL, wut?
20100610 03:03:04< Valkier> ?
20100610 03:03:17< Espreon> Exactly.
20100610 03:03:27< Valkier> My mind!
20100610 03:03:35< Espreon> Mine eyes!
20100610 03:03:53< Valkier> My garden!
20100610 03:04:38< Espreon> My cake!
20100610 03:04:42< Gambit> Gotta love windows time estimater...
20100610 03:04:52 * Espreon LOLs
20100610 03:05:02< Gambit> Mine estimations?
20100610 03:05:19< Gambit> What about thing's like "Mine universe"?
20100610 03:05:30< Gambit> you-nee-verse? So use "my"?
20100610 03:05:39< Gambit> y != vowel?
20100610 03:06:31< Espreon> Gambit: Would you say "an universe"?
20100610 03:06:41< Gambit> Ah
20100610 03:07:50< Gambit> So apparently it will take 20 years to copy these photos onto my external HDD...
20100610 03:08:02< Valkier> Cool
20100610 03:08:06< Valkier> Just delete them all.
20100610 03:08:16< Espreon> DELETE FUCKING EVERYTHING!
20100610 03:08:41< Espreon> ... including system32.
20100610 03:08:41< shadowmaster> what Espreon and Valkier said
20100610 03:09:22< Gambit> She'd kill me to death.
20100610 03:09:32< shadowmaster> how redundant.
20100610 03:09:41< Valkier> She'd kill you so hard you would die to death?
20100610 03:09:56< shadowmaster> also, http://xkcd.com/612/
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20100610 03:10:31< Espreon> Gambit: People die when they are killed!
20100610 03:10:37 * Espreon LOLs
20100610 03:11:29< Gambit> There was a bug spray commercial the other day which claimed to "kill bugs to death".
20100610 03:11:54< Espreon> Oh, wow...
20100610 03:16:11< Gambit> Espreon: piggies don't die when you kill them.
20100610 03:17:14 * Espreon rolls his eyes
20100610 03:19:13< Gambit> They turn into trees!
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20100610 04:17:48< Valkier> Espreon: Liking it so faR?
20100610 04:18:01< Espreon> Of course.
20100610 04:18:10< Valkier> Told you it was kick ass.
20100610 04:18:20< Espreon> Indeed.
20100610 04:18:31< Espreon> ... and each chapter is at least one hundred pages long.
20100610 04:18:34< Espreon> (For realz!)
20100610 04:19:44< Valkier> Yup
20100610 04:19:55< Valkier> And there's a LOT of chapters.
20100610 04:21:48< Espreon> Jeß jeß!
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20100610 04:36:53< Gambit> shadowmaster: You don't want to discuss Espreon's death?
20100610 04:37:05< shadowmaster> stfu
20100610 04:38:06< Gambit> That bad?
20100610 04:38:13< Espreon> Gambit: Hint: shadowmaster's really pissed off right now.
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20100610 04:47:49< Valkier> Why is he pissed?
20100610 04:50:00< Espreon> Valkier: Read #wesnoth's logs.
20100610 04:54:31< Valkier> Saw stuff about word games? I dunno.
20100610 04:54:42< Espreon> Uh... no?
20100610 04:55:06< Espreon> http://www.wesnoth.org/irclogs/2010/06/%23wesnoth.2010-06-10.log
20100610 04:55:37< Valkier> Guess I'd have had to be there. All looked harmless to me.
20100610 04:55:58< Espreon> Meh, I guess.
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20100610 14:51:19< Valkier> Gambit
20100610 14:51:24< Valkier> Just go read Berserk.
20100610 14:51:25< Valkier> Now.
20100610 14:52:45< Gambit> From the way you were describing it last night; it sounded more like hentai than manga.
20100610 14:52:55< Valkier> Nah
20100610 14:53:03< Valkier> Much more death and violence than rape.
20100610 14:53:43< Valkier> Plus the main character is not above using other people as body shields, like men that are in reach.
20100610 14:53:45< Valkier> Or women..
20100610 14:53:48< Valkier> Or children...
20100610 14:54:36< Valkier> He's actually the worst "hero" ever come to think of it. :-P
20100610 15:20:18< Espreon> Gambit: Just read it.
20100610 15:20:33< Valkier> <3 Espreon.
20100610 15:20:39< Valkier> He's probably afraid.
20100610 15:20:43< Espreon> Indeed.
20100610 15:20:55< Valkier> He's to saturated with the mindless otaku crap that is One Piece.
20100610 15:21:13< Valkier> Too intimidated by the clearly superior story and art work that Berserk offers.
20100610 15:21:23< Espreon> Jeß jeß.
20100610 15:31:04< loonycyborg> But can it really be considered 'grotesque'? :P
20100610 15:33:09< Valkier> Depends.
20100610 15:33:23< Valkier> Do you consider people being ripped apart or having their heads explode grotesque?
20100610 15:33:41< loonycyborg> Not really.
20100610 15:33:53< Valkier> Guess not by your standards then.
20100610 15:34:06< Valkier> Though the monsters are quite disturbing looking if you ask me.
20100610 15:35:22< loonycyborg> If their heads turned into pumpkins instead then I could call it grotesque..
20100610 15:37:43< Valkier> Weird.
20100610 15:37:59< Valkier> There is an extremely screwed up scenario involving a fetus.
20100610 15:40:15< loonycyborg> So it's only in *one* scenario? Then not grotesque definitely :P
20100610 15:40:32< Valkier> It comes back to haunt them... A lot...
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20100610 18:27:16< Gambit> zookeeper, Espreon: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=30339
20100610 18:27:45< Gambit> zookeeper: Is it still a remote possibility if someone makes a proof of concept?
20100610 18:27:56< Gambit> Or have your minds been changed to a flat out no in the time since that post?
20100610 18:28:23< Gambit> Espreon: Is what you're working on similar enough to be considered the proof of concept zookeeper asked for so long ago?
20100610 18:36:36 * zookeeper shrugs
20100610 18:36:57< zookeeper> making proper support for something like that would be a huge project
20100610 18:37:09< zookeeper> like bigger than what would be suitable for GSoC
20100610 18:50:08< Espreon> Gambit: Yeah, what he wants sounds like what I have sans the AI being able to control units on other floors.
20100610 18:50:34< Gambit> Okay. Thanks guys.
20100610 18:51:20< Espreon> ... meh [time_area] doesn't work well for this. Silly lizard.
20100610 18:51:28< Espreon> [replace_schedule] is awesome, right AI0867?
20100610 19:01:32< Espreon> Gambit: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=433810#p433810 ... Enlighten him.
20100610 19:03:23< Valkier> Just tell him he drank the fizzy lifting drink and now the WML must be cleaned and sterilized.
20100610 19:05:57< Gambit> Espreon: Well I can't.
20100610 19:06:04< Gambit> Because I really don't entirely understand your project.
20100610 19:06:27< Gambit> Having not remembered to look at it that one day I said I was going to.
20100610 19:06:37< Gambit> And indeed not remembering until right now.
20100610 19:07:13< Valkier> We need to go the Blizzard route and make a Wesnoth MMORPG.
20100610 19:07:17< Valkier> Who's with me!
20100610 19:11:42< Gambit> Valkier: It's in the works.
20100610 19:11:48< Gambit> Except cut off the first M.
20100610 19:12:21< Valkier> Oh?
20100610 19:14:07< Valkier> What, one of the UMCs with the current Wesnoth engine?
20100610 19:14:18< Gambit> No.
20100610 19:14:33< Valkier> Huh. Who's making it?
20100610 19:14:36< Gambit> A currently nonexistant UMC that is waiting upon a future feature of the Wesnoth Engine.
20100610 19:14:50< Gambit> A future feature that is being implemented THIS SUMMER
20100610 19:14:54< Gambit> Coming soon to a release near you.
20100610 19:15:00< Valkier> :-P
20100610 19:15:26< Valkier> I tried some of the UMC Wesnoth RPG things. Turn based RPGs like this just aren't my thing I guess.
20100610 19:17:55< Valkier> Makes everything go all slow and whatnot.
20100610 19:34:44< Espreon> Gambit: Look at TSL... nao.
20100610 19:40:39< Espreon> Gambit: ... please?
20100610 19:41:53< Espreon> (Just go to scenario naught... and.... yeahz)
20100610 19:57:57 * Espreon disappears...
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20100610 23:38:42< Espreon> AI0867: Uh, TSL's multifloor system doesn't use the context menu.
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