--- Log opened Sat Jun 12 00:00:21 2010
20100612 00:01:35< Gambit> Do any of you remember these commercials: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tI-0LO-zzLg ?
20100612 00:02:25< Gambit> Espreon: ^^ that's what you should do to him.
20100612 00:02:53< Espreon> Yeahz...
20100612 00:04:06< Gambit> Firebreathing bears have been clinicly proven to make people use scripts you send them.
20100612 00:05:15 * Espreon rolls his eyes
20100612 00:27:30< Aethaeryn> Elvish_Pillager: I think I've found your boss.
20100612 00:27:39< Elvish_Pillager> what?
20100612 00:27:43< Aethaeryn> look at #Wesnoth
20100612 00:27:48< Aethaeryn> look who was recently talking there :P
20100612 00:27:53< Elvish_Pillager> ha ha
20100612 00:28:09< Elvish_Pillager> but I'm obviously a rebel, so...
20100612 00:28:28< Elvish_Pillager> I've almost completely got Estiban Gaol updated.
20100612 00:28:37< Elvish_Pillager> Just need to fix a few last bugs with my trading system.
20100612 00:33:21< AI0867> 17:51 < Espreon> AI0867: LOL, they locked the BIOS, and they disabled the ability to boot from anything but the hdd. <-- okay, use some partition editor to repartition the drive, add a small new partition that has linux and shred
20100612 00:33:30< AI0867> then shred every other partition
20100612 00:33:52< AI0867> and after that is done, try to get it to shred itself
20100612 00:35:38< Espreon> You honestly think that they would allow such a thing to be possible? Besides, I already turned it in.
20100612 00:37:27< Aethaeryn> Espreon: what computer?
20100612 00:37:58< Espreon> The shit that the school hands out.
20100612 00:39:20< shadowmaster> does it have spyware installed too?
20100612 00:41:12< Espreon> Yes, but it's so flawed that it can easily be disabled without administrator powahs.
20100612 00:41:43< Espreon> When I mean "disabled", I mean that the filtering functions are rendered useless... the logging goes down... yeahz.
20100612 00:42:23< Espreon> All one has to do is delete some registry keys.
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20100612 00:43:29< Elvish_Pillager> Hmm, I wonder which would win: The wizards from EoHS, or the dwarves from Dwarf Fortress?
20100612 00:43:56< Gambit> The former.
20100612 00:44:13< Gambit> Because I think it's from Wesnoth.
20100612 00:44:19< Elvish_Pillager> Ha ha.
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20100612 00:44:44< Espreon> shadowmaster: Lovely, isn't it?
20100612 00:44:53< Espreon> Hello Mythological.
20100612 00:45:07< shadowmaster> how can that crap be legal?
20100612 00:45:23< Espreon> How the hell should I know?
20100612 00:45:24< shadowmaster> and why is my cat sitting on the wireless modem?
20100612 00:45:28< Mythological> hello Espreon, hello everyone
20100612 00:45:48< Gambit> Cats like sitting on things.
20100612 00:46:04< shadowmaster> Gambit: you tell me
20100612 00:46:13< shadowmaster> I've had him for 9 years
20100612 00:46:18< Mythological> especially on things which are warm
20100612 00:46:32< Gambit> shadowmaster: Does he jump on your face while you sleep?
20100612 00:46:44< shadowmaster> no
20100612 00:47:30< Espreon> ... and I need a good font for Devanagari.
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20100612 01:09:46< Blueblaze> shadowmaster: Hey I'm thinking about buying an island in Chile
20100612 01:09:51< Blueblaze> I found one for $105,000
20100612 01:09:56< Blueblaze> 15 acres
20100612 01:10:27< Blueblaze> It's in Patagonia Chile, how is it like over there? :x
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20100612 01:15:26< Espreon> shadowmaster: Hmmm... SF's beta file manager for the release system doesn't seem to suck as much as the current one.
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20100612 01:18:07< shadowmaster> no way to change file properties, though
20100612 01:18:16< Espreon> Hmmmm... wow, I can select a bunch of files that I wish to upload at once.
20100612 01:18:53< Espreon> Hmmmm... maybe they fired the idiots who made the current stable one.
20100612 01:19:48< shadowmaster> you may want to play with the download statistics beta
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20100612 01:20:00< shadowmaster> develop -> download stats (beta)
20100612 01:20:09< Espreon> Yeah, those are nice as well.
20100612 01:20:46< shadowmaster> one download from Puerto Rico
20100612 01:20:52< shadowmaster> :P
20100612 01:20:57< Espreon> DAMN IT! I HAVE TO USE THE SHITTY ONE NOW...
20100612 01:21:10< Espreon> More like Puerto Pobre.
20100612 01:21:33< shadowmaster> their stats software must have problems
20100612 01:21:47< shadowmaster> I doubt there are more downloaders from "other OS" than Windows, Linux and Mac OS
20100612 01:21:48< Espreon> Oh?
20100612 01:21:56< Espreon> Ah, jeß.
20100612 01:22:06< shadowmaster> 313, 176, 31 and 14 respectively, according to the software
20100612 01:22:37< shadowmaster> unless some BSD box is mirroring us or something
20100612 01:24:02< Espreon> shadowmaster: If you could rename Chile, to hwæt would you rename it? This new name would be recognized by every major organization in za warudo (id est, every organization that actually matters).
20100612 01:24:38 * Espreon hates the fact that «lelo» cannot occur.
20100612 01:25:00< shadowmaster> uh
20100612 01:25:05< shadowmaster> I'd not rename it
20100612 01:25:10< Espreon> Awwww...
20100612 01:26:57< Espreon> ... and I would dare to use «cúyo».
20100612 01:38:36< shadowmaster> > Fetched 62.1MB in 2min 54s (357kB/s) 
20100612 01:47:56< AI0867> loonybot: { std::map<int,int> foo; foo[1] = 3; foo[1] = 2; std::cout << foo[1]; }
20100612 01:48:03<+loonybot> 2
20100612 01:48:29< AI0867> loonybot: { std::map<int,int> foo; foo.insert(make_pair(1,3)); foo.insert(make_pair(1,2)); std::cout << foo[1]; }
20100612 01:48:30<+loonybot> 3
20100612 01:48:43< AI0867> but cplusplus.com says the two are equivalent...
20100612 01:50:10< Espreon> Aethaeryn: Hwy do the celestials, the therians, and the warg exist?
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20100612 01:51:51< Aethaeryn> Espreon: Because they're the original, core of EoM
20100612 01:52:00< Aethaeryn> and not as cool as the late-additions
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20100612 02:01:26< Espreon> How sad.
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20100612 02:56:07< Espreon> How come when I wanna do something, I either can't due to financial reasons or location?
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20100612 02:56:42< Espreon> No, I don't wanna learn ASL, any form of Neo-Latin, et cætera.
20100612 02:56:50< Espreon> I could do those on my own.
20100612 02:57:30 * Espreon wants to learn Icelandic or any of the following: Old English, Old High German, Old Norse; Gothic.
20100612 02:57:54< Espreon> I could probably do OE myself since I'll have plenty of time during the summer, but still.
20100612 03:12:50< Espreon> Hmmmmm... the new "Northerners" could be used for a lot of things...
20100612 03:14:40< Espreon> ... maybe even a boss battle.
20100612 03:14:49< Espreon> Aethaeryn: What do you think?
20100612 03:14:58 * Espreon wishes that Valkier were here
20100612 03:19:43< Aethaeryn> new norther sprites or portraits?
20100612 03:20:19< Aethaeryn> portraits I know about
20100612 03:20:23< Aethaeryn> sprites would be a pleasant surprise
20100612 03:20:30< Aethaeryn> orcs are too bright and shiny, not scary.
20100612 03:20:43< Espreon> No, I meant the music track.
20100612 03:20:51< Aethaeryn> oh :S
20100612 03:21:00< Espreon> Why do you think I had it in quotes?
20100612 03:21:02< Aethaeryn> I don't really listen to the music.
20100612 03:21:12< Aethaeryn> I usually have the sound off
20100612 03:21:18< Espreon> Just listen to the new "Northerners".
20100612 03:21:22< Aethaeryn> If for no other reason than that MP has the same few tracks over and over again
20100612 03:21:25< Aethaeryn> and so...
20100612 03:21:27< Aethaeryn> anyway, brb
20100612 03:21:39< Aethaeryn> also... http://seasteading.org/
20100612 03:21:44< Aethaeryn> this seems like an interesting concept.
20100612 03:21:51< Aethaeryn> though maybe I'm just too geeky.
20100612 03:21:59< Aethaeryn> my main concern was Internet, not food... ;)
20100612 03:27:41< Aethaeryn> but maybe I've been spending too long in the off topic that is #wesnoth-music today
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20100612 04:47:09< Gambit> Sweet. I just got a reference to being a sysadmin for my birthday. :P
20100612 04:47:18< Gambit> They were a month late... but hey.
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20100612 06:13:53< King_Elendil> Espreon, what goes on buddy ;) ?
20100612 06:15:52< Espreon> Nothing much.
20100612 06:15:54< Espreon> You?
20100612 06:16:08< King_Elendil> same here
20100612 06:16:24< King_Elendil> what are you working on atm?
20100612 06:16:29< Espreon> Nothing.
20100612 06:16:36< Espreon> Just relaxing, I suppose.
20100612 06:17:21< King_Elendil> I haven't worked on wesnoth for a couple of weeks. :O
20100612 06:18:47< King_Elendil> do you like RPG's?
20100612 06:19:41< Espreon> Yes.
20100612 06:19:57< King_Elendil> have you heard of Eschalon?
20100612 06:20:01< Espreon> Nope.
20100612 06:20:14< King_Elendil> awesomeness 
20100612 06:20:24< King_Elendil> let me get you a link...
20100612 06:22:20< King_Elendil> http://basiliskgames.com/eschalon-book-ii
20100612 06:23:34< Espreon> Looks nice.
20100612 06:24:21< King_Elendil> I've logged 19 hours on it in about a week.
20100612 06:24:29< King_Elendil> very addicting
20100612 06:29:17< Espreon> King_Elendil: Did I make you play TSL yet?
20100612 06:29:33< King_Elendil> nope
20100612 06:30:31< Espreon> Meh, you'd have to wait till 1.9.0 is released, unless you can compile.
20100612 06:31:15< King_Elendil> no, sorry
20100612 06:31:26< Espreon> Meh, oh well.
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20100612 06:45:17< Espreon> Yay, the final chapter of FMA is out.
20100612 06:48:20< Espreon> ... and it is at least one hundred pages long.
20100612 06:48:23< Espreon> No, for realz.
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20100612 08:39:25< shadowmaster> &26
20100612 08:39:59< Valkier> How's the bronchitus?
20100612 08:40:13< shadowmaster> bad
20100612 08:40:19< Valkier> Sucks
20100612 08:40:28< Valkier> Get meds yet?
20100612 08:40:41< shadowmaster> yeah
20100612 08:40:45< shadowmaster> and it's about to be 3 am, so I'm leaving now, good night
20100612 08:40:56< Valkier> Night
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20100612 15:09:25< Valkier> Huh. Do we have anything to be worried about with this? http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/62398
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20100612 15:58:01< King_Elendil> zookeeper, can I create more than one unit with the same id in a scenario, if I want them to do the same thing?
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20100612 16:01:25< zookeeper> King_Elendil, no
20100612 16:01:48< King_Elendil> that's what I thought. thanks :D
20100612 16:09:57< King_Elendil> so zookeeper, will this work right? http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/tucYpZrN
20100612 16:13:19< King_Elendil> sorry to bother you again
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20100612 16:29:44< AI0867> Valkier: not really
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20100612 19:52:16< Elvish_Pillager> well, this is fun
20100612 19:52:35< Elvish_Pillager> I have two [store_unit] tags, whose filters have exactly the same contents except for two variable names.
20100612 19:52:56< Elvish_Pillager> The two variables evaluate to the same things when I print them in a message.
20100612 19:53:10< Elvish_Pillager> Yet the two tags store different units (one stores some, the other stores none.)
20100612 19:53:34< AI0867> can you pastebin both?
20100612 19:53:41< Elvish_Pillager> okay
20100612 19:54:42< Elvish_Pillager> http://pastebin.com/h7CLUCaW
20100612 19:55:40< Elvish_Pillager> (The first and second lines of the first message are 2 and 0 respectively. The first and second lines of the second message are identical, as are the third and fourth lines.)
20100612 19:57:24< AI0867> $stolen_ship and $this_unit?
20100612 19:57:30< zookeeper> well
20100612 19:57:50< Elvish_Pillager> AI, they're stored units. $stolen_ship doesn't display anything, does it?
20100612 19:58:13< zookeeper> in the second one, you're only storing units which are standing on locations listed in their own variables.interior_space
20100612 19:58:27< Elvish_Pillager> what!
20100612 19:58:33< Elvish_Pillager> Is this_unit a special value now?
20100612 19:58:37< zookeeper> yes
20100612 19:58:40< Elvish_Pillager> AUGH
20100612 19:58:54< zookeeper> $this_unit is the unit being filtered for :P
20100612 19:59:18< Elvish_Pillager> Is there, like, a LIST of values that Wesnoth screws with somewhere?
20100612 19:59:47< zookeeper> uh, yeah...
20100612 19:59:48< zookeeper> http://wiki.wesnoth.org/VariablesWML
20100612 19:59:55< zookeeper> kinda exactly where you'd expect ;)
20100612 20:00:15< Elvish_Pillager> how convenient
20100612 20:00:32< Elvish_Pillager> I managed to hit exactly the only one I didn't know about
20100612 20:04:44< Elvish_Pillager> Has anyone ever thought of maybe changing WML to get rid of some of the glaring design flaws?
20100612 20:07:26< Elvish_Pillager> zookeeper: do you know WHICH filtered unit it is if you have, for instance, [filter] [filter_location] [filter_adjacent_location] [filter] ?
20100612 20:08:18< Elvish_Pillager> or just [filter_adjacent] inside the [filter], heh
20100612 20:11:08 * Elvish_Pillager puts it on their TODO to test, along with several other things where they expect to find Wesnoth bugs
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20100612 21:33:13< zookeeper> uh
20100612 21:33:38< zookeeper> i'm pretty sure $this_unit is always the unit in the current SUF block
20100612 21:33:52< zookeeper> regardless of whether the current SUF block is inside another SUF block
20100612 21:34:10< zookeeper> but doesn't hurt to test and be sure
20100612 21:36:52< AI0867> I think you're right
20100612 21:37:04< AI0867> it should be properly scoped
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20100612 23:40:43< Espreon> ... and of couese, torangan still didn't respond.
20100612 23:40:46< Espreon> *course
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