--- Log opened Tue Jun 15 00:00:40 2010 20100615 00:26:54<+CIA-33> wesnoth-umc-dev: AI0867 * r7264 /trunk/Thunderstone_Era/images/ (13 files in 4 dirs): Converted indexed images to RGBA 20100615 01:00:19< Elvish_Pillager> Hmm. 20100615 01:00:25< Elvish_Pillager> I have a unit with two possible advancements. 20100615 01:00:36< Elvish_Pillager> I want to execute some WML on it _before_ it advances... 20100615 01:00:47< Elvish_Pillager> ...but only if the player's going to pick _one_ of the advancements. 20100615 01:00:51< Elvish_Pillager> What to do? 20100615 01:29:56< PK1> create a new event name. :D 20100615 01:30:00< PK1> be special. 20100615 01:30:09< PK1> call it "preadvance" 20100615 01:31:54< Elvish_Pillager> well, I found a way to do what I wanted without that ability 20100615 01:41:00-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100615 01:54:47< shadowmaster> more inactive spambots 20100615 01:54:50< shadowmaster> http://forums.wesnoth.org/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=122192 20100615 01:56:26< shadowmaster> wesbot: seen Gambit 20100615 01:56:27<+wesbot> shadowmaster: The person with the nick Gambit last spoke 1d 22h ago. 1d 20h ago was here and on the channels #wesnoth and #wesnoth-dev with the message: Read error: Connection reset by peer 20100615 02:11:09-!- shadowmaster [~ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Disconnected by services] 20100615 02:11:20-!- shadowmaster [~ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100615 02:13:33-!- loonycyborg [~sergey@wesnoth/developer/loonycyborg] has quit [Quit: Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz] 20100615 02:15:13-!- loonybot [~loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20100615 02:26:09< shadowmaster> hm, kdevelop disappeared 20100615 02:28:21< shadowmaster> eek, no wonder 20100615 02:28:50< shadowmaster> PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 20100615 02:28:55< shadowmaster> 27985 shadowm 20 0 3543m 2.7g 72m S 44 74.5 1:02.97 /usr/bin/kdevelop.bin 20100615 02:29:04< shadowmaster> 2.7 GB of RAM is too much 20100615 02:29:25< shadowmaster> it doesn't seem to be killed by the kernel, though. 20100615 02:33:03< shadowmaster> it's the code parsing that causes memory allocation to go to hell 20100615 02:33:25< shadowmaster> kdevelop.bin: Fatal IO error: client killed 20100615 02:33:33< shadowmaster> no system signal from the kernel apparently. 20100615 02:35:03< shadowmaster> ah, KDE crash handler at last 20100615 02:35:06< shadowmaster> it's a SIGSEGV 20100615 02:35:26< shadowmaster> so I guess it's consequence of some major memory leak, not just a simple large allocation 20100615 02:35:55< shadowmaster> I guess I'll go back to the command line technique for grepping wesnoth's sources then. 20100615 02:38:21< shadowmaster> 592 MB of RAM went to swap 20100615 02:38:46< shadowmaster> ah well, more RAM available for foreground processes :x 20100615 02:54:42-!- Aethaeryn [~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100615 02:58:59-!- noy [~Noy@70.70.254.199] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100615 02:59:09-!- noy [~Noy@70.70.254.199] has quit [Changing host] 20100615 02:59:09-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100615 03:14:15-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [] 20100615 03:43:28-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100615 04:17:00<+CIA-33> wesnoth-umc-dev: AI0867 * r7265 /trunk/Thunderstone_Era/terrain-graphics/ (_final.cfg precedence.cfg): Fix the terrain macros in thunderstone 20100615 04:18:04< shadowmaster> AI0867: feel free to fix whatever you want in AtS and IftU if you see fit and have time 20100615 04:18:27< shadowmaster> in regards to the always changing WML standards and the terrain macros 20100615 04:20:28< AI0867> this is my first time ever touching terrain macros (well, I've added new village terrains before, but that's a single line copy-paste), so it might take a while 20100615 04:21:47<+CIA-33> wesnoth-umc-dev: AI0867 * r7266 /trunk/Thunderstone_Era/terrain-graphics/_final.cfg: Make lunar craters not be overridden by red desert (Gammac_B) craters 20100615 04:40:28<+CIA-33> wesnoth-umc-dev: AI0867 * r7267 /trunk/Thunderstone_Era/ (99 files in 4 dirs): Move lunar terrain into its own directory 20100615 04:54:22<+CIA-33> wesnoth-umc-dev: AI0867 * r7268 /trunk/Thunderstone_Era/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Add metal bunker floor terrain as requested on the wiki, from http://opengameart.org/content/metal-plate, by Georges "TRaK" Grondin 20100615 04:58:25<+CIA-33> wesnoth-umc-dev: AI0867 * r7269 /trunk/Thunderstone_Era/terrain.cfg: Add credit that I hadn't saved yet 20100615 05:02:17-!- noy_ [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100615 05:02:58-!- King_Elendil [~King_Elen@75.143.233.138] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100615 05:05:09-!- noy 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It doesn't look good, but not nearly as bad as others. 20100615 05:13:15<+CIA-33> wesnoth-umc-dev: AI0867 * r7271 /trunk/Thunderstone_Era/terrain-graphics/_final.cfg: Stop 'Es' from pretending to be an overlay terrain 20100615 05:14:08< Espreon> ... and I have parts of KDE 4.5... yay... 20100615 05:15:15< Espreon> AI0867: I don't remember, lemme check. 20100615 05:22:20< Espreon> Damn it, some acid from my stomach got shot up and it hit my uvula... 20100615 05:22:42< Espreon> ... and I actually use that... 20100615 05:59:03-!- Elvish_Pillager [~eli@71-10-224-192.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has quit [Quit: Hi! I'm a quit message virus vaccine. If you see a quit message virus, don't replace your quit message with it!] 20100615 05:59:05< Espreon> AI0867: Meh, it just says that TRANSITION_BASE is missing. 20100615 06:03:48<+CIA-33> wesnoth-umc-dev: aethaeryn * r7272 /trunk/Thunderstone_Trilogy/maps/0101_Gammac_B.map: Revising Gammac B a bit with the new bunker terrain used for some of the road... 20100615 06:17:05-!- PK1 [~pk@r74-192-30-57.bcstcmta01.clsttx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has quit [Quit: Java user signed off] 20100615 06:21:08<+CIA-33> wesnoth-umc-dev: aethaeryn * r7273 /trunk/Thunderstone_Trilogy/maps/0101_Gammac_B.map: Gammac B with rails and a bit of darker dirt mixed in. 20100615 06:45:52<+CIA-33> wesnoth-umc-dev: AI0867 * r7274 /trunk/Invasion_from_the_Unknown/terrain-graphics/_final.cfg: Upgrade IftU's terrain graphics to current 1.9.0-svn standards 20100615 07:06:41<+CIA-33> wesnoth-umc-dev: AI0867 * r7275 /trunk/Thunderstone_Era/terrain-graphics/ (_final.cfg precedence.cfg): Fix Gammac_B transitions 20100615 07:13:55< Espreon> AI0867: Would you please fix TSL as well? 20100615 07:14:04< AI0867> that's next on the list 20100615 07:14:31< Espreon> Excellent. 20100615 07:17:10<+CIA-33> wesnoth-umc-dev: AI0867 * r7276 /trunk/Thunderstone_Era/terrain-graphics/ (_final.cfg precedence.cfg): Get rid of precedence.cfg 20100615 07:18:14< Aethaeryn> ah, maybe I can touch trunk again :P 20100615 07:18:18< Aethaeryn> since all the things were broken. 20100615 07:18:38< Aethaeryn> IftU, AtS, TSL, TE, etc. :P 20100615 07:24:52-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Quit: brb] 20100615 07:25:45-!- CIA-33 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20100615 07:26:43-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100615 07:33:48< AI0867> Espreon: upgrade done, but TSL dies on me... 20100615 07:34:45< Espreon> HWÆT‽ 20100615 07:35:59< Espreon> AI0867: What happened? 20100615 07:36:33< AI0867> http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/QMFCt5LJ 20100615 07:37:18< Espreon> AAAAAAH! SCARY STUFF! 20100615 07:37:52 * shadowmaster rolls eyes 20100615 07:42:50< Espreon> AI0867: Please commit the upgrades, so that I can get to solving this issue. 20100615 07:43:01< Espreon> Yes, I am too lazy to comment out things at this hour. 20100615 07:44:47< Espreon> Oh wow, now I need to hunt down some source code... 20100615 07:47:45< Espreon> Good, I found it... 20100615 07:49:15< AI0867> Espreon: already did that, but CIA is dead 20100615 07:49:27< Espreon> Ah, jeß. 20100615 07:49:40< AI0867> I was trying to test whether I may have broken the gates in IftU 20100615 07:49:49< Aethaeryn> Aethaeryn's Maps, Wesalwyn, Era of Tyrants, Thunderstone [Era/Trilogy]... 20100615 07:49:52< Aethaeryn> Please punch me if I have new ideas. 20100615 07:49:57< AI0867> they look horrible in the editor, but then both TSL and IftU define the same terrain... 20100615 07:50:08< Aethaeryn> I have all these old add-ons (none started less than a year ago, I think) that I need to finish :P 20100615 07:50:09 * shadowmaster winces 20100615 07:50:28< Espreon> AI0867: Did you import SHEX? 20100615 07:50:35< AI0867> I still have stories of tarlyn lying around somewhere 20100615 07:50:35< Aethaeryn> And I already have a giant Mediterranean map for when I feel like a new project ;) 20100615 07:50:39< AI0867> Espreon: you already did that 20100615 07:50:45< AI0867> in IftU I replaced SHEX 20100615 07:50:46< Espreon> In IftU I meant. 20100615 07:50:49< Espreon> Ah. 20100615 07:51:00< AI0867> but I don't know if that work properly 20100615 07:51:05< AI0867> and I can't test it!! 20100615 07:51:20< AI0867> or, well, compare it to TSL 20100615 07:52:02-!- CIA-33 [cia@208.69.182.149] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100615 07:52:05-!- mode/#wesnoth-umc-dev [+v CIA-33] by ChanServ 20100615 07:52:51< shadowmaster> CIA-33: spit the missing commits now, you bastard 20100615 07:55:02-!- zookeeper [~l@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100615 08:01:05 * AI0867 kicks CIA-33 20100615 08:01:05<+CIA-33> ow 20100615 08:02:08< shadowmaster> and there are still missing bots in some networks and channels 20100615 08:02:26< shadowmaster> oh, the one in #wesnoth-dev just arrived 20100615 08:03:22< shadowmaster> also, why the hell is the crappy iPhone port catching the media's attention?! 20100615 08:03:53< shadowmaster> "It was originally an open source title" 20100615 08:04:09< Espreon> ... and it seems that the Portage devs care about typography... 20100615 08:04:13< shadowmaster> the article Kyle linked today appears to imply that the iPhone/iPad ports are somehow not opensource 20100615 08:04:33< shadowmaster> "The game is US$5 on both platforms, and there's no free version, but the original title is still open source" 20100615 08:04:38< Valkier> Is there trouble or something over this? 20100615 08:04:42< shadowmaster> some idiot is equating open source with free with gratis 20100615 08:05:52 * shadowmaster stops looking at the idiocy 20100615 08:06:04< Valkier> Where is this at? 20100615 08:06:15< shadowmaster> Users' Forum 20100615 08:06:16 * Espreon cries 20100615 08:06:58< shadowmaster> bbiab 20100615 08:07:06-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Quit: You are doing it right!] 20100615 08:07:07<+CIA-33> wesnoth-umc-dev: AI0867 * r7278 /trunk/After_the_Storm/terrain-graphics/_final.cfg: Upgrade AtS (untested) 20100615 08:08:14< Espreon> That website is so unprofessional. 20100615 08:09:52< Espreon> ... it sickens me. 20100615 08:10:03< Valkier> What website? 20100615 08:10:40< Espreon> The website on which that article exists. 20100615 08:10:55< Espreon> Aethaeryn: Guess what? I have plans for an era (or two). 20100615 08:11:07< Espreon> (Sketchy plans) 20100615 08:11:17< Aethaeryn> Espreon: era as in "a region full of cool factions"? 20100615 08:11:23< Espreon> YES! 20100615 08:11:24< Aethaeryn> or era is in fits in a timeframe? :P 20100615 08:11:51< zookeeper> what's wrong with equating open source with free with gratis? 20100615 08:11:55< Espreon> One shall be called the Era of Typography. 20100615 08:12:05< Aethaeryn> zookeeper: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 20100615 08:12:14< Espreon> IDK what I'll call the other, but it would have different scripts as factions. 20100615 08:12:35< zookeeper> Aethaeryn, neverheard. all OSS normal people use is free is gratis. 20100615 08:13:08< Aethaeryn> http://www.redhat.com/ 20100615 08:13:27< Aethaeryn> https://www.redhat.com/apps/store/server/ 20100615 08:14:04< zookeeper> yes, i know what red hat is 20100615 08:14:14< Aethaeryn> "Ahah, but that's just paying support subscriptions!" you might say, but then I would point out that you can't get it for free anywhere in a binary form (except the beta which is obviously for testing) 20100615 08:14:33< Aethaeryn> except as CentOS, which is with the trademarked images removed and with a separate software repository. 20100615 08:16:16< Aethaeryn> But, RHEL is open source 20100615 08:16:20< Aethaeryn> So you can't call it gratis. 20100615 08:16:46< Aethaeryn> Also, for the brief period of time when the FSF (Free Software Foundation) existed before the Internet took over distribution of software (late 80s) they used to make money by selling emacs 20100615 08:16:59< Aethaeryn> the source was there, you could do what you wanted with it, but the DISTRIBUTION is what they charged for 20100615 08:17:42< zookeeper> who are you talking to? 20100615 08:18:44 * Aethaeryn 20100615 08:18:52< Espreon> Why are we talking about this again? 20100615 08:18:57 * Aethaeryn 20100615 08:18:59< Espreon> Is it putting food on someone's table? 20100615 08:19:04< Espreon> I think not. 20100615 08:19:51< zookeeper> who knows? 20100615 08:20:00< Espreon> Indeed... 20100615 08:20:07< Espreon> But, who cares? 20100615 08:20:34< Espreon> Aethaeryn: So, what do you think of my crazy ideas? 20100615 08:20:46< Aethaeryn> Yes. 20100615 08:21:28< Espreon> ... 20100615 08:24:04 * Espreon was seeking real answers, but, whatever... 20100615 08:26:36< Espreon> AI0867: As I suspected, the results are horrible. Just use SHEX. 20100615 08:26:51< AI0867> SHEX was deprecated 20100615 08:26:55< AI0867> probably for a reason 20100615 08:26:58< Espreon> It matters not. 20100615 08:27:44< Aethaeryn> Espreon: what ideas? elaborate? 20100615 08:28:10< Espreon> Aethaeryn: I wish to create an era where the factions are different scripts. 20100615 08:29:03< Espreon> AI0867: The point is the SHEX just works with the gates. We've had problems with other macros (the previous one that was used introduced vile transitions. 20100615 08:29:18<+CIA-33> wesnoth-umc-dev: AI0867 * r7279 /trunk/Thunderstone_Era/terrain-graphics/_final.cfg: Prevent Gammac_B desert from repeating 20100615 08:29:54< Espreon> Aethaeryn: You know, different writing systems? 20100615 08:30:08< Aethaeryn> oh 20100615 08:30:12< Aethaeryn> those kinds of scripts 20100615 08:30:14< Aethaeryn> makes more sense 20100615 08:30:21< Espreon> So far, I only have ideas for the fuþorc and the Latin alphabet. 20100615 08:31:06< Aethaeryn> so you mean neither typefaces (Times New Romans faction) nor computer scripts (the powerful .py faction! fear them!) 20100615 08:31:12< Espreon> The fuþorc would probably rely on AMLAs (... and of course, lower XP requirements, initially), while the Latin letters would be more like normal units. 20100615 08:31:34< Espreon> Latin alphabet, the fuþorc, Devanagari, Shavian, et cætera. 20100615 08:31:59< Aethaeryn> Greek? 20100615 08:32:00< Aethaeryn> :P 20100615 08:32:11< Aethaeryn> Cyrillic? 20100615 08:32:35< Aethaeryn> you can transliterate most english tihngs in greek 20100615 08:32:58< Espreon> Why do you think I put "et cætera"? 20100615 08:33:03< Espreon> Exactly. 20100615 08:38:55< Aethaeryn> Espreon: did coptic have their own script? 20100615 08:38:58< Aethaeryn> or was it largely greek? 20100615 08:39:51-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100615 08:39:51< Espreon> It was Greek-based with some characters from Demotic. 20100615 08:40:09< Aethaeryn> ooooh, Demotic 20100615 08:40:09< Aethaeryn> do that 20100615 08:42:39< Espreon> I'll think about it. But the Latin alphabet and the fuþorc will definitely appear (as I actually have ideas for them). 20100615 08:44:18< Espreon> This is how the Latin alphabet would work: L1 = lowercase letter; L2 = same letter, but with a diacritic; L3 = same letter, but capitalized. 20100615 08:44:55< Espreon> Now... which diacritics shall I have involved? 20100615 08:45:51< Espreon> ... and how shall I handle ligatures? 20100615 08:48:05< Espreon> Aethaeryn: Would you kick me in the face if I were to create campaigns revolving around units from this era? 20100615 08:48:10< Aethaeryn> yes 20100615 08:48:14< Aethaeryn> perhaps 20100615 08:48:23< Aethaeryn> anyone off of Linux probably will 20100615 08:52:06 * Espreon wonders how he should handle kanji, katakana, and hiragana. 20100615 08:56:19 * Espreon disappears... 20100615 09:08:39<+CIA-33> wesnoth-umc-dev: AI0867 * r7280 /trunk/Thunderstone_Era/terrain-graphics/_final.cfg: Simplify Thunderstone terrain-graphics, ensure all variations of red desert hills are used 20100615 09:28:20-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Quit: system upgrade in progress] 20100615 09:30:29-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100615 09:33:15< shadowmaster> "Download Firefox - Free 3.6.3 for Linux i686" 20100615 09:33:20< shadowmaster> idiots 20100615 09:35:18< shadowmaster> why can't they provide amd64/intel64 builds for once? 20100615 09:44:24< Aethaeryn> people use 64 bit? :o 20100615 09:44:34< Aethaeryn> 20100615 09:45:08< shadowmaster> hey 20100615 09:45:20< shadowmaster> all laptops I saw at the store came with some 64-bit version of Windows 7 20100615 09:45:24< shadowmaster> I WIN 20100615 09:45:42< shadowmaster> oh, except people don't really care about userland 20100615 09:45:48< shadowmaster> yes, I could also run 32-bit Firefox here 20100615 09:45:53< shadowmaster> but I don't weant 20100615 09:46:06< shadowmaster> also, it'd look like crap since there are no 32-bit Gtk2 themes here 20100615 09:56:12-!- thespaceinvader [~chatzilla@wesnoth/artist/thespaceinvader] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100615 09:58:57-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [] 20100615 10:15:42-!- Aethaeryn [~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has quit [Quit: ...] 20100615 10:40:37< Valkier> shadowmaster: What? You use Windows 7!? 20100615 10:40:45< Valkier> I knew it... 20100615 10:48:01-!- Blueblaze [~nick@adsl-99-171-160-117.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20100615 11:34:08-!- fendrin [~fabi@wesnoth/developer/fendrin] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20100615 12:01:30-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy] 20100615 12:04:29-!- loonybot [~loonybot@ppp79-139-137-245.pppoe.spdop.ru] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100615 12:04:29-!- loonybot [~loonybot@ppp79-139-137-245.pppoe.spdop.ru] has quit [Changing host] 20100615 12:04:29-!- loonybot [~loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100615 12:04:30-!- mode/#wesnoth-umc-dev [+v loonybot] by ChanServ 20100615 12:05:05-!- Elvish_Pillager [~eli@71-10-224-192.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100615 12:05:21-!- loonycyborg [~sergey@wesnoth/developer/loonycyborg] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100615 12:05:47< Elvish_Pillager> Vars like x1, y1: If you fire another event and then it finishes, are those vars reset for the first event? 20100615 12:06:06< Elvish_Pillager> And if so, does that include overwriting any modifications that the WML author (foolishly) made to them? 20100615 13:02:03-!- Valkier [~IceChat7@c-174-55-104-2.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: OUCH!!!] 20100615 14:01:25-!- King_Elendil [~King_Elen@75.143.233.138] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100615 14:15:00-!- King_Elendil [~King_Elen@75.143.233.138] has quit [Quit: I hope y'all have a nice day ;)] 20100615 15:15:05-!- fendrin [~fabi@wesnoth/developer/fendrin] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100615 15:38:55-!- linease [~linease@dslb-092-076-127-224.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20100615 15:42:30-!- FAAB [~huajie@219.142.242.114] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100615 15:42:46< FAAB> shikadibot: dir /trunk 20100615 15:42:46<+shikadibot> Web interface URL to directory /trunk: http://wesnoth-umc-dev.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/wesnoth-umc-dev/trunk 20100615 15:43:05-!- linease [~linease@dslb-092-076-127-224.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100615 15:56:59-!- FAAB [~huajie@219.142.242.114] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20100615 16:12:05-!- lizard_r [~Rolf@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/lizard] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100615 17:01:16< AI0867> Espreon: http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=435288#p435288 20100615 17:04:52-!- lizard_r [~Rolf@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/lizard] has left #wesnoth-umc-dev [] 20100615 17:51:35-!- Gambit [~quassel@pa-67-234-73-7.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100615 18:02:29-!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: Elvish_Pillager 20100615 18:04:52-!- Elvish_Pillager [~eli@71-10-224-192.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100615 18:05:13-!- Valkier [~IceChat7@c-174-55-104-2.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100615 18:50:11-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100615 19:12:29-!- Blueblaze [~nick@99.171.160.117] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100615 19:55:01-!- Blueblazed [~nick@adsl-99-182-54-45.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100615 19:56:27-!- Blueblaze [~nick@99.171.160.117] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20100615 20:48:37< Elvish_Pillager> Woah. 20100615 20:48:44< Elvish_Pillager> You can have more than one recruiter on the same side now? 20100615 20:51:09< Valkier> Eh? 20100615 20:59:45-!- Gambit [~quassel@pa-67-234-73-7.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20100615 21:19:07-!- Gambit [~quassel@pa-67-234-73-7.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100615 22:21:06-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: GO, GET TO THE CHOPPAH!!!] 20100615 22:37:42-!- Valkier [~IceChat7@c-174-55-104-2.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20100615 22:42:39< Espreon> Hmmmmm... I think that mesa has been slowing down lately... 20100615 22:46:58-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100615 22:53:41-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100615 22:53:57< Espreon> Maybe I should try downgrading it... 20100615 22:58:09< Espreon> shadowmaster: How often do you pull from upstream and compile mesa? 20100615 22:58:30< shadowmaster> not a lot 20100615 22:58:52< shadowmaster> I've not compiled for a month or so, athough I've been pulling 20100615 22:59:04< Espreon> You may not want to compile... 20100615 22:59:48 * Espreon thinks that mesa/some related thingy has becoming slower lately... 20100615 22:59:56< Espreon> *slow 20100615 23:00:12< shadowmaster> I'm not compiling unless there are more changes to the standard r600 driver 20100615 23:00:35< Espreon> Meh, I can't type when compiling and running pofix at the same time. 20100615 23:00:37< shadowmaster> lately most updates are only for the gallium driver, which I've been told is still unusable 20100615 23:03:57-!- Blueblazed [~nick@adsl-99-182-54-45.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20100615 23:20:48< Espreon> http://imagebin.org/101470 ... Nice. 20100615 23:21:06< Espreon> ... and this is an incomplete KDE 4.5 installation. 20100615 23:30:49< shadowmaster> am I seeing Windows 7-like taskbar b[A[A[A[A[Auttons? 20100615 23:30:54< shadowmaster> buttons 20100615 23:31:10-!- Valkier [~IceChat7@c-174-55-104-2.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100615 23:32:59-!- thespaceinvader [~chatzilla@wesnoth/artist/thespaceinvader] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401080539]] 20100615 23:33:31< Valkier> So everyone mark your calenders. 2010 is the year that gaming ended. 20100615 23:34:00< shadowmaster> Espreon: what's up with those task list buttons that only have the task icon? 20100615 23:34:42< Espreon> Valkier: Oh? 20100615 23:34:55< Valkier> Yup. 20100615 23:34:58< Valkier> We had a good run. 20100615 23:35:01< shadowmaster> I am assuming they are task list buttons. I can't think of what else they could be since they've got borders. 20100615 23:35:18< Espreon> shadowmaster: Also, yes, you saw Windows 7-like taskbar buttons. 20100615 23:35:31< shadowmaster> wtf 20100615 23:35:35< shadowmaster> why? 20100615 23:35:38< Valkier> But when the entirety of E3 for the xbox was focused on a motion sensitive camera that lets you kids "pet" a young tiger? 20100615 23:36:01< zookeeper> Valkier, it changes the way you think of entertainment. 20100615 23:36:06< Espreon> shadowmaster: Because everything's nice and tidy. 20100615 23:36:16< shadowmaster> Espreon: THAT'S HORRIBLE 20100615 23:36:37< Valkier> Zookeeper: That is a very fair statement actually. 20100615 23:36:52< shadowmaster> I am not very good at associating tasks with icons 20100615 23:37:05< zookeeper> Valkier, yeah, the marketing people are right after all. 20100615 23:37:24< Espreon> shadowmaster: Well, I am. So... yeahz... 20100615 23:37:25< shadowmaster> fortunately for me Debian Squeeze will be released with KDE 4.4 20100615 23:37:44< Valkier> Debian. lawlz 20100615 23:37:45< Espreon> No, I use a different Plasmoid. 20100615 23:37:51< shadowmaster> so unless I keep tracking testing instead....yeahz 20100615 23:38:04 * shadowmaster feels tempted to stick to testing 20100615 23:38:10< Valkier> Zookeeper: It's sort of like saying cancer will change your life. 20100615 23:38:35< Espreon> shadowmaster: Don't worry, I'm using a different Plasmoid, so, you can keep whatever you want. 20100615 23:39:05< shadowmaster> Espreon: ahhhhh 20100615 23:39:18< zookeeper> Valkier, well...it will, won't it? 20100615 23:39:31 * Espreon wonders when the motion-sensing fad will end 20100615 23:39:43< Valkier> It all ready has. That's the point. 20100615 23:39:45< shadowmaster> Espreon: when opensource drivers appear for that hardware 20100615 23:39:47< Valkier> Wii sales are even down. 20100615 23:40:15< Espreon> shadowmaster: ... which will take at least one hundred years. 20100615 23:40:25< shadowmaster> Espreon: don't be silly 20100615 23:40:38< shadowmaster> that's what I said about 3D accel support for the ATI RS780 20100615 23:40:39< Espreon> I'm only being reasonable. 20100615 23:40:48< shadowmaster> it took only one year 20100615 23:40:59< shadowmaster> theoretically it'll take even less for newer chipsets with the gallium crap 20100615 23:41:09< shadowmaster> why? I don't know 20100615 23:41:46< shadowmaster> but I've heard it's part of the reason they've been busy working on gallium lately 20100615 23:41:50< shadowmaster> same with KMS 20100615 23:42:43< shadowmaster> of course, I am already happy with the DRI mesa driver's support for this chipset so I'm sticking to UMS and the old DRI mesa driver for as long as possible 20100615 23:42:58< shadowmaster> I don't want to burn my display or my eyes 20100615 23:52:23-!- mysticX [aolo@rbi0332.giga-dns.com] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev --- Log closed Wed Jun 16 00:00:46 2010