--- Log opened Sun Jun 20 00:00:14 2010 --- Day changed Sun Jun 20 2010 20100620 00:00:14< Espreon> Hwæt? 20100620 00:00:51< shadowmaster> this 20100620 00:00:53< shadowmaster> YOU CAN'T BE SERIOUS 20100620 00:00:56< shadowmaster> THIS CAN'T B E A CAMPAIGN 20100620 00:01:01< Espreon> I agree. 20100620 00:01:04< Espreon> It sucks. 20100620 00:01:06< shadowmaster> NOOOOOOOOOOoooooOOoooooOOOoooOOoooooooo 20100620 00:01:35 * shadowmaster dies 20100620 00:01:50< Espreon> We, þe Lords of þe Future, must nix þis at once! 20100620 00:03:00< shadowmaster> let me analyze this again 20100620 00:03:12< shadowmaster> note: "you" refers to dunkin idaho from now on 20100620 00:03:24< shadowmaster> you want to make a IftU sequel, right? 20100620 00:03:34< shadowmaster> with...like...Mal Ravanal, right? who's been asleep all this time 20100620 00:03:43< shadowmaster> HE WAS FUCKING DESTROYED IN FUCKING EASTERN INVASION 20100620 00:03:49< shadowmaster> DESTROYED 20100620 00:04:10< shadowmaster> DESTROYED!!!! THERE'S NO GAINAX ENDING TO ABUSE HERE! MAL RAVANAL IS DESTROYED!!!!!!!!! 20100620 00:04:58< shadowmaster> GWITI HA'ATEL?! WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THIS?! WHAT THE H-E-L-L-!!! 20100620 00:06:05< shadowmaster> and Uria doesn't want to be brought anywhere. SHE MAKES THE FUCKING PLOT! THAT'S THE POINT OF IFTU AND ATS! YOU CAN'T MAKE A SEQUEL WITH HER AND GET AWAY WITHOUT THAT! 20100620 00:06:32< shadowmaster> and what's theat Marshal/Lieutenant nonsense? 20100620 00:07:10< shadowmaster> at least Elynia had a fucking ancient prophecy backing up her status 20100620 00:09:04< shadowmaster> 30 OR 40 SCENARIOS. NOOO! 20100620 00:09:10< shadowmaster> A CAMPAIGN ROTS AFTER 25 SCENARIOS! 20100620 00:09:11< shadowmaster> ALWAYS! 20100620 00:09:25< shadowmaster> Espreon: sorry, I can't think of a good response for the thread 20100620 00:09:33 * shadowmaster goes afk for a while 20100620 00:12:52 * Espreon can't wait for Woden's Day. 20100620 00:27:55< shadowmaster> okay. 20100620 00:28:00< shadowmaster> NOOO, I CAN'T DO IT 20100620 00:28:01< shadowmaster> I CAN'T REPLY! 20100620 00:28:20 * zookeeper slaps shadowmaster 20100620 00:28:23< zookeeper> calm down, woman 20100620 00:28:30< shadowmaster> I can't! 20100620 00:28:45< shadowmaster> I'm tired of al these fanboys 20100620 00:28:48< shadowmaster> Espreon: you reply 20100620 00:30:59< shadowmaster> I'll check for spambots while you take care of Donuts Idaho 20100620 00:31:49< shadowmaster> okay, no spambots to check. Um, I'll do something else. 20100620 00:32:09< shadowmaster> something else. 20100620 00:32:29< shadowmaster> okay, I'll do a formal explanation for my anti-sequel movement. 20100620 00:32:33< shadowmaster> you win. 20100620 00:35:01< shadowmaster> "excuse me for any ortographical mistakes, english is not my native language, and im not seeing a spell check button" 20100620 00:35:06< shadowmaster> dammit 20100620 00:39:03 * Elvish_Pillager censures zookeeper for comparing women to shadowmaster 20100620 00:39:53< shadowmaster> I'm writing a reply 20100620 00:42:15< AI0867> shadowmaster: maybe I should start posting spoilers: GWITI DIES! 20100620 00:42:23< AI0867> or does he? 20100620 00:44:54< shadowmaster> ehm 20100620 00:44:59< shadowmaster> yes, he is destroyed 20100620 00:45:12< shadowmaster> anyway, TA-DAAAAA! 20100620 00:45:15< shadowmaster> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=436442#p436442 20100620 00:49:34< shadowmaster> why do fonts look so blurry on Mac OS X screenshots? ummm 20100620 00:52:42< shadowmaster> well, the last two paragraphs of http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2007/06/12.html seem to explain why I can't stand Mac OS X / OpenSolaris / Some Linux Distributions' defaults 20100620 00:52:58< Aethaeryn> hmm, my desktop seemed to have compiled the whole thing from scratch of wesnoth-1.8 in just under 13 minutes 20100620 00:53:02< Aethaeryn> 12:56 I think 20100620 00:53:15< shadowmaster> so I should stick to my Windowsish manually-hacked font-config setup 20100620 00:53:18< Aethaeryn> Probably just about as long as it takes my laptop to compile updates 20100620 00:53:20< shadowmaster> I guess. 20100620 00:55:34< shadowmaster> AI0867: oh, I see you'll have to deal with Donuts Idaho's poor English in Tech Support anyway. 20100620 00:57:55-!- Blueblazed [~nick@adsl-99-186-64-86.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20100620 01:05:08< AI0867> I read that, then discarded it on account of being incomprehensible 20100620 01:11:21< shadowmaster> fair enough 20100620 01:13:10< shadowmaster> uhm. Undead Legion 20100620 01:13:13< shadowmaster> Dark Hordes. 20100620 01:13:31< shadowmaster> Undead Legion. Dark Hordes. Undead Legion. Dark Hordes. Undead Legion- is it just me, or they are synonyms? 20100620 01:14:03< shadowmaster> okay, for all I care Dark Hordes could be about a Legion of Mages of Darkness who are Totally not Necromancers 20100620 01:17:13-!- Espreon-Hell [~chatzilla@pool-71-175-72-87.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100620 01:17:32< Espreon-Hell> Hello children, KDE 4.5/KDM raped me... 20100620 01:18:00<+shikadibot> and so, shadowmaster wondered, what would happen if he searched for images related to "pointlessness" in the Internet 20100620 01:18:36< Espreon-Hell> So, I'm downloading a Sabayon 5.3 ISO, so that I can chroot into my installation, so that I can have GDM used... 20100620 01:18:45< Espreon-Hell> ... you know, so that I can fix things... in Fluxbox. 20100620 01:18:59< shadowmaster> Espreon-Hell: what? that's stupid 20100620 01:19:02< Espreon-Hell> Well, after this, no more betas of DMs. 20100620 01:19:11< shadowmaster> just boot into a runlevel without X 20100620 01:19:13< Espreon-Hell> *DEs 20100620 01:19:19< Espreon-Hell> shadowmaster: Can't. 20100620 01:19:24< shadowmaster> why? 20100620 01:19:51< Espreon-Hell> The so-called "recovery mode" just throws me into X... :( 20100620 01:19:59< shadowmaster> are you using gGRUB? 20100620 01:20:01< shadowmaster> *GRUB 20100620 01:20:04< Espreon-Hell> Yes. 20100620 01:20:11< shadowmaster> just append "S" to the kernel command  line 20100620 01:20:19< shadowmaster> GRUB has a edit mode 20100620 01:20:39< Espreon-Hell> OK, I'll try that, but, I'm not bailing on my ISO download. 20100620 01:20:41< shadowmaster> runlevel S should be enough to $ startx fluxbox 20100620 01:20:42<+CIA-35> wesnoth-umc-dev: AI0867 * r7335 /branches/maintenance-toolchain/umcguard: Check in umcguard, a tool to 'include-guard' WML and keep it in sync 20100620 01:20:51 * Espreon-Hell needs a Sabayon 5.3 disc anyway. 20100620 01:20:57< shadowmaster> or to disable kdm and go into the normal runlevel 20100620 01:21:23< shadowmaster> or if your system is like Red Hat, go into a networking-capable runlevel without X (3) 20100620 01:21:24< Espreon-Hell> Oooh, another tool. 20100620 01:22:20<+shikadibot> and shadowmaster couldn't find an appropriate image for "pointlessness" amongst the first page of results in Google Images 20100620 01:22:33<+shikadibot> at least not one that was Safe for Work 20100620 01:22:35 * Espreon-Hell wonders if shadowmaster can correctly guess why his current nick is "Espreon-Hell". 20100620 01:22:40< shadowm_laptop> no 20100620 01:22:46< AI0867> redhat has runlevel 3 not use X? 20100620 01:23:01< shadowmaster> AI0867: er, no idea, I'm actually assuming openSUSE took the idea from Red Hat :P 20100620 01:23:05< Espreon-Hell> Well, "Hell" = "Windows" 20100620 01:23:29< AI0867> gentoo has some difference between 2 and 3-5, but I can't remember what 20100620 01:23:37< shadowmaster> openSUSE had runlevels 1-3 without X, 5 with X 20100620 01:23:50< AI0867> 0,1,s and 6 are of course, the usual ones 20100620 01:24:01< shadowmaster> 1 being roughly equivalent to S (can't remember the differences), i.e. single-user no networking 20100620 01:24:02< AI0867> diff 2 3? 20100620 01:24:14< shadowmaster> 2 multiuser without networking 20100620 01:24:22< shadowmaster> 3 multiuser with networking, and 5 the same as 3 but with X 20100620 01:24:48< Espreon-Hell> Seriously, why the fuck would they make a release if KDM has such a serious bug? 20100620 01:25:03< shadowmaster> while with Debian...it's complicated 20100620 01:25:21< shadowmaster> and I actually still don't know what runlevel is the current one! I only know that S is single-user, heh heh :S 20100620 01:25:27< AI0867> and 4? 20100620 01:25:37< shadowmaster> 4 is unused in openSUSE 20100620 01:25:48< shadowmaster> and reserved 20100620 01:26:22< AI0867> in gentoo, I believe default = 3 and you can do whatever you want with 3-5 20100620 01:26:26< shadowmaster> hm, it seems they did take it from Red Hat: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-7.2-Manual/ref-guide/s1-init-boot-shutdown-init.html 20100620 01:26:38< shadowmaster> except that in that documentation, 2 appears as reserved too 20100620 01:27:46< AI0867> 16:04 < AI0867> 1. redefining UtBS's 'DarkTiles' terrain as 'Road' 20100620 01:27:46< AI0867> 16:05 < AI0867> 2. IftU giving dark castle heals=8, TSL giving it heals=0 20100620 01:27:49< AI0867> 16:05 < AI0867> 3. 3 different tile definitions for the dark gates 20100620 01:27:49< AI0867> #2 has been fixed 20100620 01:27:53< AI0867> what about the other two? 20100620 01:27:59< shadowmaster> my current runlevel is 2, woohoo! (in Debian) 20100620 01:28:14< Espreon-Hell> AI0867: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=436394#p436394 20100620 01:28:21< shadowmaster> AI0867: (1) refers only to a terrain name (GUI) change? 20100620 01:28:36< AI0867> probably other stuff too (images) 20100620 01:28:44< Espreon-Hell> AI0867: Make sure to fix the hivewater transitions. 20100620 01:28:55< shadowmaster> AI0867: sounds good 20100620 01:29:01< AI0867> but yes, I should take the name out of operator== 20100620 01:29:14< shadowmaster> but you shouldn't worry about conflicting definitions, as I said, since that's only possibly a problem for the editor 20100620 01:29:33< shadowmaster> and in this case, the conflicting definitions are (supposed to be) functionally the same 20100620 01:29:38< AI0867> 01:28 < Espreon-Hell> AI0867: Make sure to fix the hivewater transitions. <-- I've poked boucman, I have no clue how those many transitions work 20100620 01:29:49< Espreon-Hell> DAMN IT! 20100620 01:29:56<+CIA-35> wesnoth-umc-dev: ln-zookeeper * r7336 /trunk/Brotherhood_of_Light/ (8 files in 2 dirs): Updates for 0.6.1. 20100620 01:30:07< AI0867> shadowmaster: I'm trying to clean all of that up at the moment 20100620 01:30:25< shadowmaster> AI0867: regarding 3, what's the problem? each campaign is defining them as functionaly different terrain with D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[Dthe same letter? 20100620 01:30:34< AI0867> the graphics are next, using umcguard 20100620 01:30:42< shadowmaster> I can't believe that those are raw <- left arrow keypresses 20100620 01:30:55< shadowmaster> *with the same string? 20100620 01:31:04< AI0867> no, more like different images 20100620 01:31:39< AI0867> AtS uses UtBS's images 20100620 01:31:57< Espreon-Hell> AI0867: If you didn't get my message earlier, you could just do the stagnant blood pool that happens to be sitting on X while not having ground carved out for it by having the terrain code not use "W". 20100620 01:31:59< AI0867> IftU uses its own images (in props) with an icon in tile-icons 20100620 01:32:12< shadowmaster> wait- 20100620 01:32:20< shadowmaster> AI0867: UtBS doesn't have images for dark gates 20100620 01:32:25< shadowmaster> or does it now? 20100620 01:32:26< AI0867> TSL uses its own images (in props) with that as an icon too 20100620 01:32:38< AI0867> mainline has a scenery image called rusty gate 20100620 01:32:53< shadowmaster> ahhhh, I think I remembebr something 20100620 01:33:05< shadowmaster> something about a headache-inducing mess 20100620 01:33:09< AI0867> yeah =P 20100620 01:33:33< shadowmaster> I think I postponed dealing with it until gates would actually appear in AtS 20100620 01:33:41< shadowmaster> and they do already, I think 20100620 01:33:59< Espreon-Hell> Yeah, in Blood Pool. 20100620 01:34:11< shadowmaster> and in scenario 7 20100620 01:34:27< shadowmaster> however, I don't recall having issues with the gates in scenario 7 when I last played it in BfW 1.7.x 20100620 01:34:51< shadowmaster> so...I don't know what needs to be done 20100620 01:34:59< AI0867> this is not an issue in campaigns (except for the editor) 20100620 01:35:04< AI0867> but it can become a huge issue with eras 20100620 01:35:11< AI0867> as they can't properly guard themselves 20100620 01:35:22< AI0867> thunderstone era has opened the door 20100620 01:35:28< shadowmaster> well, you won't have Gates in eras, will you? 20100620 01:35:32-!- zookeeper [~l@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [] 20100620 01:35:49< shadowmaster> at least IMO it doesn't make sense 20100620 01:35:58< AI0867> you don't have eras rewriting the entire game, do you? 20100620 01:36:04< shadowmaster> unless you started a Dungeon Crawling Era or something I guess :/ 20100620 01:36:11< AI0867> like GEB, EoHS, EoT, wesband... 20100620 01:36:12< AI0867> =P 20100620 01:36:19< shadowmaster> :x 20100620 01:36:31< Aethaeryn> speaking of which I need to get EoT published. 20100620 01:36:41< shadowmaster> okay, putting terrains in eras is already a headache-inducing business 20100620 01:36:46< Aethaeryn> it's almost ready, I just got sidetracked for 2 weeks by my math class and Wesalwyn 20100620 01:36:58< AI0867> what *is* wesalwyn anyway? 20100620 01:37:04< Aethaeryn> a map for The High Seas 20100620 01:37:11< Aethaeryn> using EP's era 20100620 01:37:12< shadowmaster> because, um, we should theoretically be using X* and Y* and Z* only for UMC terrains 20100620 01:37:22< Aethaeryn> it has to be separate from my mappack because of the dependency 20100620 01:37:25< shadowmaster> and we are not because I said "screw the rules, I have semantics!" 20100620 01:38:24< shadowmaster> (in fact, that X* and Y* and Z* thing mordante once told me sucks because it is already contradicted in mainline by Xt, Xos, and such) 20100620 01:38:48< AI0867> 01:28 < Espreon-Hell> AI0867: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=436394#p436394 <-- thanks 20100620 01:39:06< Espreon-Hell> You are welcome. 20100620 01:39:34< Gambit> Eras rewriting the entire game <3 20100620 01:39:36< AI0867> shadowmaster: disagree, if it's road, it should be R*, grass, G*, water, W*, to take advantage of existing transitions 20100620 01:39:49< shadowmaster> yeah, that's why I said semantics 20100620 01:39:53< shadowmaster> :P 20100620 01:39:57< AI0867> right, hadn't read that far =P 20100620 01:40:23< shadowmaster> talking about abandoned campaigns 20100620 01:40:39< shadowmaster> maybe these people don't know about us: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=17171&start=135 20100620 01:41:10< AI0867> After learning Java for several years (wich isn't very diffrent from WML) and having made enough experience to know how this campaign works I'd feel ready to maintain this campaign. 20100620 01:41:11< shadowmaster> otherwise I don't see why translations are relevant in the last 3 posts or so 20100620 01:41:15< AI0867> -_-' 20100620 01:41:48< Elvish_Pillager> Gambit: what else are eras good for? =) 20100620 01:42:36< Espreon-Hell> Now to get out of Hell. 20100620 01:42:39-!- Espreon-Hell [~chatzilla@pool-71-175-72-87.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.0.19/2010031422]] 20100620 01:44:30< AI0867> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=436403#p436403 <-- talk about subpixel shading... 20100620 01:45:03< shadowmaster> oh please, I hope Wayfarer doesn't see this: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=30458 20100620 01:46:13< Gambit> He's replacing "bad" art with super bad art? 20100620 01:46:18< Gambit> I don't understand. 20100620 01:47:01< AI0867> "I saw something that doesn't look perfect, so I made something worse" 20100620 01:47:29< shadowmaster> hey that's who I started! 20100620 01:47:40< shadowmaster> er... how. 20100620 01:47:52< Gambit> And better yet the worse art is frankied from the supposedly bad art. 20100620 01:47:56< shadowmaster> what the hell is happening to me. why am I making the same spelling mistakes as native speakers? 20100620 01:48:34< Elvish_Pillager> Are you two reading the same post I am? 20100620 01:48:37< Elvish_Pillager> Alarantalara isn't recommending the image they posted as art 20100620 01:48:39< Gambit> shadowmaster: You've gotten *that* good. 20100620 01:49:26< shadowmaster> Elvish_Pillager: I don't think I even know what you are reading. 20100620 01:49:57< Gambit> EP: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=30458 20100620 01:50:17< Gambit> Elvish_Pillager: shadowmaster's link. Not AI's. 20100620 01:50:17< Elvish_Pillager> oh, heh 20100620 01:51:12< Gambit> Oh noes it's the rolling eyes emoticon. 20100620 01:51:18< Gambit> shadowmaster: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=30464 20100620 01:51:26< Gambit> I guess I stepped on his foot. 20100620 01:51:40 * Gambit backs out of that thread... 20100620 01:52:17< Gambit> Why do we have a rude rolling eyes emote, but not a "whistleing innocently" one? 20100620 01:52:24< Gambit> Zarel even made the graphic :( 20100620 01:52:32< Elvish_Pillager> ooh, I haven't seen it 20100620 01:53:05< shadowmaster> Gambit: because WE DON'T NEED MORE EMOTICONS 20100620 01:53:13< shadowmaster> get that through your head for once 20100620 01:53:17< Gambit> BUT IT'S SUCH A USEFUL ONE 20100620 01:53:20< Gambit> :( 20100620 01:53:45< Aethaeryn> damn it, I can't seem to get ssh to work 20100620 01:53:46< shadowmaster> the more emoticons available, the less text that people will use in posts. 20100620 01:53:55< shadowmaster> *certain people 20100620 01:54:10< shadowmaster> sadly, one of the major offenders in this regards is a goddamn developer 20100620 01:54:18< shadowmaster> won't mention his name. 20100620 01:54:26< Gambit> Elvish_Pillager: http://orbitupload.com/get/icon_whistle38.gif 20100620 01:54:32< shadowmaster> *this regard 20100620 01:54:33< Espreon> OK, even though I eradicated my KDE config files, it still won't start. 20100620 01:54:41 * Espreon 's going back to KDE 4.4. 20100620 01:54:42< AI0867> espreon: what happened? you turned in your windows craptop and got a different craptop in return? 20100620 01:54:50< Espreon> No. 20100620 01:54:53< shadowmaster> Espreon: does /var/log/Xorg.0.log have anything that could hint a non-KDE issue? 20100620 01:54:54< Elvish_Pillager> Gambit: hehe, yeah, that should definitely be available 20100620 01:55:24< Gambit> shadowmaster: replace the nerd one 20100620 01:55:26< Espreon> AI0867: I happen to dual-boot. 20100620 01:55:26< Gambit> nobody ever uses it 20100620 01:55:33-!- mode/#wesnoth-umc-dev [+o shadowmaster] by ChanServ 20100620 01:55:47-!- shadowmaster changed the topic of #wesnoth-umc-dev to: Not paying attention is punishable with a ban | Wesnoth-UMC-Dev Project discussion and support channel | http://wesnoth-umc-dev.ai0867.net | Staff: AI0867, Espreon, shadowmaster | Project @ SF.net: http://tinyurl.com/umcdev | IRC logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org, http://irclogs.ai0867.net 20100620 01:55:56-!- mode/#wesnoth-umc-dev [-o shadowmaster] by shadowmaster 20100620 01:56:17< Gambit> Who's not paying attention? 20100620 01:56:21< shadowmaster> Gambit: geek, not nerd 20100620 01:56:23< Valkier> Me 20100620 01:56:28< Gambit> shadowmaster: Okay. 20100620 01:56:35< Espreon> shadowmaster: Well, I don't see anything. 20100620 01:56:38< shadowmaster> and it has been used before 20100620 01:56:39< Gambit> Well in all my time on the forums I don't think I've ever seen it used. 20100620 01:56:48< shadowmaster> therefore, I'm not going to break its existing usages 20100620 01:56:49< Gambit> And the arrow. 20100620 01:56:59< Espreon> ... and I am in Fluxbox... 20100620 01:57:08< Gambit> Plus there's one less smiley on the bottom row than on the top 20100620 01:57:10< shadowmaster> also, both the arrow and the geek emoticon are part of the core emoticons provided by phpBB 20100620 01:57:13< Gambit> you've got to even that out am I right? 20100620 01:57:30< Gambit> oh wait number of rows dependso n screen size 20100620 01:57:38< Espreon> Maybe if I'm lucky, going back to KDE 4.4 will solve everything. 20100620 01:57:41< Gambit> "even numbeR"? 20100620 01:58:09 * Gambit waits for shadowmaster's OCD to kick in. 20100620 01:58:18< Gambit> We have an odd number of emoticons. 20100620 01:58:20< shadowmaster> OCD? 20100620 01:58:29< Gambit> obsessive compulsive disorder 20100620 01:58:42< shadowmaster> why the fuck do you care about emoticons and not about the ever-decaying Off-Topic forum? 20100620 01:58:55< shadowmaster> this really proves that you aren't fit for moderation 20100620 01:59:01< shadowmaster> no, you aren't 20100620 01:59:10< Gambit> The off topic forum is rotting. 20100620 01:59:16< shadowmaster> you pay more attention to the looks of the forums than to its content 20100620 01:59:20< shadowmaster> that's STUPID. 20100620 01:59:24< Gambit> "off topic" 20100620 01:59:36< shadowmaster> why are you quoting yourself? 20100620 01:59:48< Gambit> Every time I go in there I... allegedly start flaming people. 20100620 01:59:50< Espreon> GOD DAMN IT! 20100620 01:59:54< Gambit> And it's not important. 20100620 01:59:58< Gambit> So I'm staying out (mostly) 20100620 02:00:04< shadowmaster> Gambit: okay, you aren't fit for moderation then, good. 20100620 02:00:13< shadowmaster> should I remove you from your current position then? 20100620 02:00:13< Gambit> What do you want me to do? 20100620 02:00:15< Gambit> Fix it? 20100620 02:00:17 * Espreon needs to find a way to stop this word suggestion feature in GTK. 20100620 02:00:20< Gambit> :\ 20100620 02:00:25< shadowmaster> thanks for proving me right, no problem, see you later 20100620 02:00:30< shadowmaster> Gambit: NO 20100620 02:00:44< Gambit> I tried fixing it: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=29930 20100620 02:00:44< shadowmaster> I mean...dammit,whatever[D 20100620 02:00:55< Gambit> ^^ intelligent conversation 20100620 02:01:04< Gambit> But now it's just full of forum games. 20100620 02:01:21< shadowmaster> There's absolutely NO topic in Off-Topic at the moment which is fun, worthwhile, intelligent and useful. 20100620 02:01:43< Gambit> I'll think of something. :D 20100620 02:01:50< shadowmaster> you are doing nothing to prove OT's worth and right to not be autopruned 20100620 02:02:03< Gambit> Because I don't care about off topic anymore... 20100620 02:02:03< shadowmaster> therefore, OT will stay autopruned 20100620 02:02:05< shadowmaster> FOREVER 20100620 02:02:37< shadowmaster> "emoticons", "emoticons"... we really need to make it worse than it already is? gaah 20100620 02:03:02-!- loonycyborg [~sergey@wesnoth/developer/loonycyborg] has quit [Quit: Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz] 20100620 02:03:22< Gambit> "emoticon" 20100620 02:03:24< Gambit> Singular. 20100620 02:03:24< shadowmaster> Espreon: you know what. 20100620 02:03:31< shadowmaster> maybe we should have an Awesome smiley. 20100620 02:03:40< shadowmaster> just because. 20100620 02:03:45< Gambit> We do. 20100620 02:03:48< shadowmaster> no 20100620 02:03:51-!- loonybot [~loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20100620 02:03:56< Gambit> http://forums.wesnoth.org/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif 20100620 02:04:05< shadowmaster> that's not Awesome enough. 20100620 02:04:11< Gambit> The :eng: smiley is pretty awesome too. 20100620 02:04:13< shadowmaster> in fact, Mr. Green looks sick and retarded 20100620 02:04:24< shadowmaster> emphasis in sick 20100620 02:04:29< shadowmaster> (did he eat something bad?) 20100620 02:04:34< Gambit> Let's replace him >:[ 20100620 02:04:43< Gambit> ^^ tsi emoticon 20100620 02:04:50< shadowmaster> it's a core emoticon 20100620 02:05:19< shadowmaster> I admit that this is an invalid excuse. 20100620 02:05:30< shadowmaster> but 22:23:48 I don't care 20100620 02:05:36< Gambit> Rofl. 20100620 02:05:41< shadowmaster> :D 20100620 02:05:42< Gambit> You have that bound to a macro? 20100620 02:05:49< Gambit> Or you keep looking it up and copying and pasting? 20100620 02:05:55< shadowmaster> autocompletion. 20100620 02:06:30< shadowmaster> I just type a certain sequence that won't occur in casual conversation and I get it replaced with the quote by irssi 20100620 02:08:20< AI0867> can I copy the script? 20100620 02:09:18< Espreon> Gambit: No, we want Awesome. 20100620 02:09:26< Espreon> shadowmaster: Please put Awesome in. 20100620 02:12:36< shadowmaster> AI0867: script? no script 20100620 02:12:42< shadowmaster> /help completion 20100620 02:13:29< shadowmaster> http://shadowm.rewound.net/completion.png 20100620 02:14:33< Gambit> ewww 20100620 02:14:53< Gambit> All your channels are in the same tab? 20100620 02:14:59< shadowmaster> no 20100620 02:15:03< Gambit> * no tabs 20100620 02:15:13< shadowmaster> irssi windows work like tabs 20100620 02:27:58< Espreon> shadowmaster: Is there an alternate way to go through irssi tabs? For some reason Alt+direction isn't working. (I'm using Terminator) 20100620 02:28:19< Espreon> (And yes, I need to go to numbers higher than ten) 20100620 02:30:06< AI0867> try /win number 20100620 02:30:10< AI0867> or /w number 20100620 02:30:18< AI0867> if you've defined it like that 20100620 02:30:30< AI0867> shadowmaster has /number aliased 20100620 02:30:52< Espreon> AI0867: Thanks. 20100620 02:31:05< Espreon> UGH, this word suggeston feature needs to die! 20100620 02:31:11 * Espreon cries 20100620 02:32:03< Espreon> AI0868: Would you please try to find something? 20100620 02:35:10< AI0867> that's not my nick 20100620 02:35:16< AI0867> and I don't even know what you're talking about 20100620 02:35:25< AI0867> ;) 20100620 02:35:49< shadowmaster> Espreon: I suggest you change your terminator config 20100620 02:36:39< Espreon> AI0867: I can't even use tab completion with this bullshit feature enabled. 20100620 02:36:43< shadowmaster> I changed a lot to make it more Konsole-user-friendly 20100620 02:37:18< Espreon> In GTK apps, someties, this weird word suggestion feature enables itself (I'm probably unknowingly enabling it with a key combo... probably involving shift or a key close to shift). 20100620 02:37:41< Espreon> shadowmaster: Would you please post your config file? 20100620 02:37:46< Espreon> *sometimes 20100620 02:38:49< shadowmaster> http://shadowm.rewound.net/terminator-config 20100620 02:40:16< Espreon> shadowmaster: Thanks. 20100620 02:40:26< Espreon> Now, I wonder where GTK key combos are defined. 20100620 02:41:30< Gambit> shadowmaster: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=436459#p436459 20100620 02:41:33< Gambit> ban him "in sight" 20100620 02:42:06< Espreon> Oh, wow. 20100620 02:42:31 * Espreon wishes that kitty were there 20100620 02:42:55< Espreon> AI0867: Any idea where GTK key combos are defined? 20100620 02:44:44< Espreon> shadowmaster: He has replied! http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=436462#p436462 20100620 02:47:25< shadowmaster> tl;dr 20100620 02:48:58< AI0867> Espreon: I don't use GTK 20100620 02:49:07< AI0867> except for iceweasel 20100620 02:49:14< Espreon> AI0867: Yeah, exactly! 20100620 02:51:09< Espreon> AI0867: Also, the silly one is babbling something about Gwiti, so, yeahz. 20100620 02:58:06 * Espreon chuckles 20100620 02:58:29< AI0867> read again 20100620 03:00:04< AI0867> I'm having serious trouble forwarding shellscript arguments to another command 20100620 03:00:18< AI0867> in the shellscript, any quotes have been stripped off 20100620 03:00:32< AI0867> so I have to put them back on if I want to forward them properly 20100620 03:00:48< AI0867> but if I put them on some arguments, then they get passed on literally... 20100620 03:01:18< AI0867> and you get stuff like git: ''add'' is not a git-command. See 'git --help'. 20100620 03:02:06 * AI0867 considers porting a 20 line script to either python or perl 20100620 03:02:46< AI0867> python would probably be longer and more work, but I don't know perl enough to be sure it doesn't have really strange behavior in related cases 20100620 03:03:28< AI0867> then there's the option of using shell arrays, but that seems to be bash only 20100620 03:11:43< shadowmaster> RED ALERT - RED ALERT - RED ALERT 20100620 03:12:08< shadowmaster> we have a ... Iceweasel crash? 20100620 03:12:30< Espreon> ... and of course, asking about my problem in #sabayon was useless. 20100620 03:12:31< shadowmaster> WHERE THE HELL IS THE PAGE I WAs oh - okau 20100620 03:13:43< Espreon> I'll probably be plagued with this forevermore. 20100620 03:14:00< shadowmaster> RED ALERT - RED ALERT - RED ALERT 20100620 03:14:14 * Espreon rolls his eyes 20100620 03:14:17< shadowmaster> we have a new forumer with a BIG EGO! 20100620 03:14:20< shadowmaster> http://forums.wesnoth.org/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=122281 20100620 03:14:22< Gambit> SHADOWMASTER DID IT 20100620 03:14:26< Gambit> HE USED MIRC 20100620 03:14:30< shadowmaster> (either that or a stealthy spambot) 20100620 03:14:34< shadowmaster> Gambit: no idiot 20100620 03:14:44< shadowmaster> Gambit: I'm still using irssi 20100620 03:15:20< Gambit> How can you tell he has a big ego from his profile? 20100620 03:15:25< Gambit> He's got no posts. 20100620 03:15:34< shadowmaster> precisely because of that! 20100620 03:15:48< shadowmaster> he filled in all his profile info, including avatar, before posting a single ... post! 20100620 03:16:02< shadowmaster> also note the username 20100620 03:16:06< Gambit> Maybe he wants to get all pimped out and ready before the big 01 20100620 03:16:23< Gambit> Yeah the username is a little nooby. 20100620 03:16:32< Gambit> But no more so than "shadow*master*" 20100620 03:16:40< shadowmaster> what 20100620 03:16:48< shadowmaster> what the fuck did you just say? 20100620 03:17:11< Gambit> I said that had I not known how awesome you were, my first instinct judging soley from your username would have been "What a noob" 20100620 03:17:26< Gambit> But of course I know how awesome you are... 20100620 03:17:28 * Gambit flees 20100620 03:17:48< shadowmaster> yeah, run! run! you can hide but never rescape! 20100620 03:17:54< shadowmaster> espcape 20100620 03:18:11< shadowmaster> escape! 20100620 03:18:33< Gambit> Nah. This cape I'm wearing gives me extrasensory perception. 20100620 03:19:40< AI0867> Warning: Configuration file was modified while irssi was running. Saving configuration to file '/home/ai/.irssi/config.autosave' instead. Use /SAVE or /RELOAD to get rid of this message. 20100620 03:21:47< AI0867> 03:21:39 up 213 days, 1:56, 6 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 20100620 03:21:57< AI0867> 03:21:51 up 27 days, 8:43, 2 users, load average: 0.38, 0.31, 0.27 20100620 03:22:50< shadowmaster> AI0867: what's wrong? 20100620 03:23:58< AI0867> it seems I added something to my irssi config months ago 20100620 03:24:14< AI0867> and I now changed some settings from inside irssi (completion) 20100620 03:24:29< AI0867> so after a few hours irssi decided to flush the settings 20100620 03:24:39< AI0867> and discovered someone had edited the config file 20100620 03:27:01< AI0867> I'm off 20100620 03:29:00< Gambit> Sweet someone is in the lobby defending GEB from verbal assault. 20100620 03:30:05 * Espreon chuckles 20100620 03:36:49< shadowmaster> AI0867: elynia kills gwiti with rosebud?! 20100620 03:37:16< AI0867> snape kills trinity with rosebud 20100620 03:38:27 * shadowmaster scratches head 20100620 03:38:31< shadowmaster> I still don't get it 20100620 03:39:46< shadowmaster> (am I missing a pop culture reference here?) 20100620 03:40:21< AI0867> yes 20100620 03:40:31< AI0867> it's a play on spoiler-campaigns 20100620 03:41:14< AI0867> that sentence has 3 different spoilers mixed up in it to the point that it's meaningless in itself 20100620 03:42:01<+CIA-35> wesnoth-umc-dev: AI0867 * r7337 /trunk/After_the_Storm/terrain-graphics/_final.cfg: Fix AtS's graphics definition of dark-hive-lair 20100620 03:42:59 * Espreon 's LOLing at his old posts. 20100620 03:56:34-!- Blueblazed [~nick@adsl-99-186-64-86.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100620 04:03:58-!- shadowm_laptop2 [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100620 04:04:06-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Disconnected by services] 20100620 04:04:12-!- shadowm_laptop2 is now known as shadowm_laptop 20100620 04:21:47< Blueblazed> shadowmaster: you tend to various plants? 20100620 04:21:49< Blueblazed> that is neat 20100620 04:22:01< shadowmaster> I what? 20100620 04:22:07< shadowmaster> also, what is the context? :) 20100620 04:23:33< shadowmaster> I give you 5 minutes to make more sense. 20100620 04:24:52< Blueblazed> Don't worry, I'll fail :< 20100620 04:25:11< shadowmaster> okay, then restrain from talking nonsense. 20100620 04:28:44< Blueblazed> kk 20100620 04:29:11< Blueblazed> I misread 20100620 04:29:13< Blueblazed> [21:10] Espreon: then do it yourself 20100620 04:29:14< Blueblazed> [21:10] my planet needs me! 20100620 04:29:36< shadowmaster> can you even read? 20100620 04:29:40< shadowmaster> planet, not plant. 20100620 04:30:21< shadowmaster> I really can't imagine how you could have misread that so WRONG. 20100620 04:30:35< Gambit> ly 20100620 04:30:38< shadowmaster> but it's okay, I know you are like that after all 20100620 04:30:46< shadowmaster> Gambit: what? 20100620 04:30:50< Gambit> wrongly 20100620 04:31:17-!- mode/#wesnoth-umc-dev [+o shadowmaster] by ChanServ 20100620 04:31:20< Gambit> Wrong is an adjective. It cannot be used to describe "misread" which is a verb. You have to adjectiveify it. 20100620 04:31:24-!- mode/#wesnoth-umc-dev [+q $a:Gambit] by shadowmaster 20100620 04:31:25<@shadowmaster> thanks for making your point! 20100620 04:31:34<@shadowmaster> have a good night 20100620 04:31:55-!- mode/#wesnoth-umc-dev [-qo $a:Gambit shadowmaster] by shadowmaster 20100620 04:32:04< Gambit> Because english is awesome and lets you do that. 20100620 04:32:19< Gambit> You can even verbify the word "adjective". 20100620 04:32:51 * Gambit is starting to take these kicks and quiets into stride. 20100620 04:32:54< Gambit> That can't be good. 20100620 04:37:01 * Gambit hopes wesnoth doesn't die from Apple lawsuit. 20100620 04:47:07< Blueblazed> It will 20100620 04:47:09< Blueblazed> :( 20100620 04:47:12< Blueblazed> Pack up your belongings 20100620 04:47:15< Blueblazed> Wesnoth is utterly doomed 20100620 04:47:19< shadowmaster> NO. 20100620 04:47:30< shadowmaster> WHILE WESNOTH-UMC-DEV STANDS, WESNOTH WILL LIVE. 20100620 04:47:38< shadowmaster> (or is it the other way around?) 20100620 04:48:04< Blueblazed> other way around, because that expedites Wesnoth-UMC-Dev's death along with Wesnoth 20100620 04:48:34-!- mode/#wesnoth-umc-dev [+o shadowmaster] by ChanServ 20100620 04:48:41-!- Blueblazed was kicked from #wesnoth-umc-dev by shadowmaster [if you hate us, leave us] 20100620 04:48:51-!- mode/#wesnoth-umc-dev [-o shadowmaster] by shadowmaster 20100620 04:48:53-!- Blueblazed [~nick@adsl-99-186-64-86.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100620 04:48:53 * shadowmaster shakes head. 20100620 04:49:07< shadowmaster> why do we have these boot-licking monkeys here 20100620 04:49:14< Blueblazed> You fail to appreciate facetiousnessness :( 20100620 04:50:12< shadowmaster> You fail...to spell? 20100620 04:50:24< Blueblazed> How/what? 20100620 04:50:34< shadowmaster> "facetiousnessness"? 20100620 04:50:40< shadowmaster> redundant much? 20100620 04:50:56< Blueblazed> That wouldn't be a spelling error 20100620 04:51:09< shadowmaster> it's still an error 20100620 04:51:11< shadowmaster> a failure. 20100620 04:51:13< shadowmaster> you fail. 20100620 04:51:16< Blueblazed> It's not an error 20100620 04:51:19< Blueblazed> It's intentional 20100620 04:51:21< shadowmaster> yes, it is. 20100620 04:51:23< shadowmaster> no, it isn't 20100620 04:51:29< Blueblazed> wtf? 20100620 04:51:39< Espreon> Thy mother. 20100620 04:51:41< shadowmaster> *yes it is an error; no, it isn't intentional 20100620 04:51:50< shadowmaster> you speak too quickly for my taste 20100620 04:52:06< Blueblazed> ERROR 20100620 04:52:12< Blueblazed> no speaking was involved :( 20100620 04:52:35< Blueblazed> no speakness was involved :x 20100620 04:53:33 * shadowmaster raises eyebrow 20100620 04:55:59< Blueblazed> The English language is so easily jackupable 20100620 04:56:04< Blueblazed> Right thair^ 20100620 05:22:19-!- Gambit [~quassel@pa-67-234-73-7.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Quit: Leaves have fallen all around. It's time I was on my way. Thanks to you I'm much obliged for such a pleasant stay.] 20100620 05:23:27< Blueblazed> shadowmaster: What have you been through that is worse than wisdom teeth? 20100620 05:24:08< shadowmaster> maxilar sinus tumor 20100620 05:24:37< Blueblazed> me has no idea what that is 20100620 05:24:39< shadowmaster> along with the second molar and wisdom teeth near my eye 20100620 05:25:33< Blueblazed> "second molar and wisdom teeth near my eye" 20100620 05:25:36< Blueblazed> Huh, near your eye? 20100620 05:25:45< shadowmaster> yes 20100620 05:29:16< Espreon> shadowmaster: So, what was your experience with wisdom teeth like? 20100620 05:29:35< shadowmaster> um, almost nil? 20100620 05:29:43< shadowmaster> I have had two of them removed before they surfaced 20100620 05:29:53< shadowmaster> (word?) 20100620 05:30:10< Espreon> Uh... well... 20100620 05:30:16< Espreon> They were still removed... 20100620 05:30:18< shadowmaster> emerged? 20100620 05:30:25< shadowmaster> surfaced? emerged? surfaced? 20100620 05:30:34< Espreon> No, they're fine. 20100620 05:30:38< Espreon> ... I guess. 20100620 05:30:49< Espreon> shadowmaster: Well, how did the removal and post-operation go? 20100620 05:30:59< Espreon> *post-operation experience 20100620 05:31:08< shadowmaster> ah, one week and a half at home without being able to do much stuff 20100620 05:31:17< Espreon> Well, I'm fine so far. 20100620 05:31:38< shadowmaster> the other wisdom teeth is currently fine 20100620 05:31:42< Espreon> The clotting phase was short, and I slept through the numbness. 20100620 05:31:43< shadowmaster> not removed. 20100620 05:31:47< shadowmaster> *tooth. 20100620 05:31:47< Espreon> Lucky. 20100620 05:32:02< shadowmaster> the *other* tooth is not removed but it's..."rootless" 20100620 05:32:06< shadowmaster> (word?!) 20100620 05:32:17< Espreon> Yeah... 20100620 05:32:27< shadowmaster> it's sitting inside my maxilllary sinus 20100620 05:32:41< Espreon> Oh wow... 20100620 05:32:50< shadowmaster> *its remains are 20100620 05:33:03< shadowmaster> it was originally too close to the eye to be removed dafely 20100620 05:33:14< Espreon> Wow... 20100620 05:33:15< Blueblazed> wtf how is a tooth too close to the eye 20100620 05:33:19 * Blueblazed still does not comprehend :< 20100620 05:33:23< shadowmaster> the tumor pushed it that far 20100620 05:33:27< Blueblazed> wow 20100620 05:33:53< Blueblazed> I guess my teeth aren't that far from my eyes, but hrm 20100620 05:35:55< shadowmaster> ahhh...s/root/pulp/ 20100620 05:38:27< shadowmaster> I need to figure out a way to ban all throwaway email addressess FOREVER. 20100620 05:38:46< shadowmaster> this guy's post and email address almost made me mistake him for a spammer: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&p=436492#p436492 20100620 05:38:57< shadowmaster> then I noticed "BfW" 20100620 05:40:36< Espreon> OK, 78 out of 249 emerged... yay... 20100620 05:44:59-!- Elvish_Pillager [~eli@71-10-224-192.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has quit [Quit: Hi! I'm a quit message virus vaccine. If you see a quit message virus, don't replace your quit message with it!] 20100620 05:50:18< Blueblazed> shadowmaster: Do you care about Chile in the World Cup? 20100620 05:51:09< Espreon> Of course he doesn't. 20100620 05:51:39< Blueblazed> Does he find the overexcitement of Chile in the World Cup absolutely annoying? 20100620 05:51:40-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20100620 05:51:47< Espreon> Probably. 20100620 05:52:01< Blueblazed> Does he enjoy watching/playing any sports? 20100620 05:52:04< Espreon> Blueblazed: You see, shadowmaster doesn't care about his country. 20100620 05:52:26< Espreon> ... and he agrees when I say that Chile is a culturally-confused hellhole. 20100620 05:52:27< Blueblazed> Why? 20100620 05:52:53-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100620 05:53:06< Blueblazed> I have always found it to be a culturally exciting place 20100620 05:53:10< shadowmaster> yes, absolutely annoying. 20100620 05:53:14< Blueblazed> Espreon: Why has my opinion become flawed? 20100620 05:53:15< shadowmaster> no, I am not into sports 20100620 05:53:21< shadowmaster> yes, my connection dropped 20100620 05:53:24< Espreon> Who is? 20100620 05:53:40< Blueblazed> huh? 20100620 05:53:42< Espreon> Blueblazed: IDK. 20100620 05:53:50< shadowmaster> Espreon: 23:51:38 Does he find the overexcitement of Chile in the World Cup absolutely annoying? 20100620 05:54:14< Espreon> Ah, yes. 20100620 05:54:47< Espreon> Honestly, what's so great about Chile? 20100620 05:54:58< Espreon> It's just trying to emulate America. 20100620 05:55:01< Blueblazed> It's in South America 20100620 05:55:08< Blueblazed> It has beautiful landscapes 20100620 05:55:24< Blueblazed> Spanish is widely spoken 20100620 05:55:24< shadowmaster> it's trying to emulate....that country in the North of America 20100620 05:55:32< shadowmaster> and Spanish was not invented in here 20100620 05:55:42< shadowmaster> go to Spain if you want to meet our ancestors or something 20100620 05:56:21< Blueblazed> Chile looks and sounds like a beautiful place 20100620 05:56:42< Blueblazed> Puerto Octay, Puerto Varas 20100620 05:56:43< Espreon> Yes, but the culture... is messed up. 20100620 05:56:45< shadowmaster> eh heh, he heh. 20100620 05:56:46< Blueblazed> How so? 20100620 05:56:56< shadowmaster> you should have come here right before the earthquake 20100620 05:56:58< Espreon> It's trying to emulate America. 20100620 05:57:03< Blueblazed> In what way? 20100620 05:57:10< shadowmaster> so you could have been drowned by one of the tsunamis 20100620 05:57:18< shadowmaster> that destroyed several coastal towns 20100620 05:57:20< Espreon> There were tsunami? 20100620 05:57:27< shadowmaster> destroyed as in, *completely* destroyed 20100620 05:57:30< shadowmaster> Espreon: yes 20100620 05:57:35< Espreon> How many? 20100620 05:57:41< shadowmaster> enough to destroy a lot 20100620 05:57:51< Blueblazed> The Cordillera del Paine is absurdly beautiful 20100620 05:58:01< Blueblazed> shadowmaster: Have you seen it in person? 20100620 05:58:06< Espreon> shadowmaster: Tell Blueblazed the truth about Chile. 20100620 05:58:09< shadowmaster> no, but I heard about a frenchie who burned it down 20100620 05:58:19< shadowmaster> (we talking about the same area I think) 20100620 05:58:38< Blueblazed> I'm talking about the cluster of mountains in Patagonia 20100620 05:58:51< Blueblazed> Torres del Paine 20100620 05:58:51< shadowmaster> the truth is that you want to stay in USA 20100620 05:58:54< shadowmaster> er... 20100620 05:59:00 * Blueblazed does not want to stay in the USA 20100620 05:59:10< shadowmaster> the national park in Torres del Paine was the one that was...substantially...burned down 20100620 05:59:13< shadowmaster> by a frenchie... 20100620 05:59:28< shadowmaster> :( 20100620 06:00:01< Blueblazed> Espreon: What is the nasty truth about Chile? 20100620 06:00:10< Espreon> shadowmaster: ^ 20100620 06:00:15< shadowmaster> that it sucks 20100620 06:00:17< shadowmaster> period 20100620 06:00:21< Blueblazed> How/what/why? 20100620 06:00:30< shadowmaster> no redeeming value 20100620 06:00:42< shadowmaster> it's not what you want to see after living in a well developed country 20100620 06:00:51< shadowmaster> unless...you visit for a day or two 20100620 06:00:57< shadowmaster> but living for a month or more here? nooooooo 20100620 06:01:04< shadowmaster> unless you are crazy 20100620 06:01:12< shadowmaster> which I bet you are :/ 20100620 06:01:13 * Blueblazed would like to live there for a month or so 20100620 06:01:15< Blueblazed> or more 20100620 06:01:33 * Blueblazed is not spoiled by living in a well developed country 20100620 06:01:54< shadowmaster> you could spend 7 days without electricity? 20100620 06:01:59< Blueblazed> I have before 20100620 06:02:06< shadowmaster> in a *city*? 20100620 06:02:07< shadowmaster> or in a farm? 20100620 06:02:10< Blueblazed> City 20100620 06:02:22< shadowmaster> how about lots of earthquakes? 20100620 06:02:32< Blueblazed> We have those in America 20100620 06:02:39< Blueblazed> Lots of them too 20100620 06:02:49< shadowmaster> how about living near a volcano? 20100620 06:03:00< shadowmaster> we have lots of active and inactive volcanoes 20100620 06:03:02< Blueblazed> Volcanos don't blow up without warning 20100620 06:03:08< shadowmaster> er...they do 20100620 06:03:20< shadowmaster> I mean, not necessarily *blow up* but 20100620 06:03:28< shadowmaster> you haven't heard of Chaitén I presume 20100620 06:04:13< shadowmaster> well, unlikely since the whole main town was destroyed by bad management! HAHA 20100620 06:04:29< shadowmaster> and volcanic ash. :/ 20100620 06:04:32< Blueblazed> I would greatly enjoy living in Chile for an extended period of time, but that's under the backdrop of me being able to afford a flight back to America if everything doesn't go well 20100620 06:04:49< Espreon> Oh, well of cours. 20100620 06:04:51< Espreon> *course 20100620 06:05:00< Blueblazed> Granted, if I can find a stability within living in Chile, I would greatly enjoy that 20100620 06:05:10< Espreon> shadowmaster: What do you think of my suggestion? 20100620 06:05:15< shadowmaster> well, how about being stuck in the International airport for two days during strong aftershocks of a Great Earthquake? 20100620 06:05:18< shadowmaster> :P 20100620 06:05:32< shadowmaster> ((yes, I know, that happens only ... every 20 years aor so) 20100620 06:05:52< shadowmaster> Espreon: it's good, but we need an army first. 20100620 06:06:00< Espreon> Build some Shaxthals? 20100620 06:06:09< Blueblazed> shadowmaster: I think as long as there is good food, women, and music, I'll be content anywhere 20100620 06:06:14< shadowmaster> ahhh, that would be awesome 20100620 06:06:15< Blueblazed> Which Chile has all 3 20100620 06:06:21< shadowmaster> Espreon: but I'm too lazy for that 20100620 06:06:47< Espreon> If I were to take over Chile, everything would be runified after a month or so. 20100620 06:06:57< Blueblazed> :( 20100620 06:07:03< Blueblazed> I think that's the essence of life 20100620 06:07:09< Blueblazed> Food, women, music, anyone should be happy 20100620 06:07:44< Espreon> But what about women? 20100620 06:08:18< Blueblazed> ? 20100620 06:08:31< Espreon> Nothing. 20100620 06:08:38< Blueblazed> olk 20100620 06:08:46< Blueblazed> ok* 20100620 06:08:58< Espreon> shadowmaster: Essentially, I'll need to take over South America, destroy the pathetic subcultures, and effect true culture. 20100620 06:09:05< Blueblazed> ew no 20100620 06:09:06< Blueblazed> f u 20100620 06:09:19< Blueblazed> shadowmaster: If you could reasonably move out of Chile to any country, where would you go? 20100620 06:09:33< shadowmaster> uhm, I don't know yet 20100620 06:09:49< Espreon> Just don't go to France. 20100620 06:09:55< shadowmaster> nor to UK 20100620 06:10:15< Espreon> Yeah, it still reeks of Normans over there. 20100620 06:10:23< shadowmaster> nor Australia. Those goddamn Australians and their Internet censoring. 20100620 06:10:41< shadowmaster> *teeth grinding* 20100620 06:11:46< Espreon> The world is slowly degenerating into a cesspool of idiocy... 20100620 06:12:06< Espreon> ... which is why my plans must be effected at once... 20100620 06:14:02< Blueblazed> shadowmaster: Would you ever consider going to a country that spoke Spanish as the first language? 20100620 06:19:39< shadowmaster> no 20100620 06:21:09< Espreon> Blueblazed: Yeah, of course he doesn't! Why do you think I'm helping him perfect his pronunciation of Modern English? 20100620 06:22:28< Blueblazed> So he can be successful in both Spanish and English? 20100620 06:22:56< Espreon> Not only that, but I'm freeing him. 20100620 06:24:35< Espreon> Right shadowmaster? 20100620 06:25:52< Espreon> OK, 107 out of 249 packages emerged... 20100620 06:27:00< Espreon> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=436488#p436488 ... Sigh. 20100620 06:28:21< Blueblazed> wtf 20100620 06:28:27< Blueblazed> that was a waste of time to load that 20100620 06:28:44< shadowmaster> Espreon: indeed 20100620 06:29:00< shadowmaster> my answer is 20100620 06:29:04< shadowmaster> * http://shadowm.rewound.net/facepalm.jpg * 20100620 06:29:37< Espreon> shadowmaster: The newbie with a big ego's first post: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=436469#p436469 20100620 06:29:44< shadowmaster> I saw it already 20100620 06:29:50< shadowmaster> yes, it's thread necromancy, yes I don't care 20100620 06:29:52< Espreon> Ah, I see. 20100620 06:30:43< shadowmaster> anyway, it's not really big ego as much as it is DeviantArt's members habit of including a lot of info about themselves in their profiles 20100620 06:31:34< Espreon> Oh God, don't mention dA. 20100620 06:31:49< Blueblazed> shadowmaster: that's you? 20100620 06:31:51< Blueblazed> o that's cool 20100620 06:33:30< shadowmaster> yes, that's me 20100620 06:33:43< shadowmaster> Espreon: but it is in his profile, hence this conclusion 20100620 06:34:03< Espreon> Yes yes. 20100620 06:34:34< shadowmaster> tsi is also a DA member 20100620 06:34:41< shadowmaster> :P 20100620 06:35:20< Espreon> I know, I know. 20100620 06:36:42-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100620 06:42:30< Espreon> Boo hoo, OneManga is down. 20100620 06:42:42 * Espreon is very sad... 20100620 06:44:25< Espreon> I guess that I'll just play FF X. 20100620 06:47:42-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [] 20100620 06:49:14< Espreon> Good, OneManga is up. 20100620 06:57:02-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100620 06:58:42< shadowmaster> okay so if I start wvdial too early during boot, the DNS settings get fucked up 20100620 06:58:57< shadowmaster> I guess I can only blame wicd 20100620 06:59:30< shadowmaster> and the Debian mirror I switched to some days ago is down. 20100620 06:59:53< shadowmaster> is there any Debian mirror in this fucking country that doesn't go down at random times for random intervals? 20100620 07:03:35 * Espreon wishes that wicd would play nicely with wicd. 20100620 07:03:38< Espreon> *WEP 20100620 07:03:48< Espreon> Not that I need WEP, but still. 20100620 07:03:56 * Espreon 's too lazy to remove it from his network 20100620 07:04:02< shadowmaster> I wish that wicd had support for PPP over serial lines 20100620 07:04:41< shadowmaster> I also wish I didn't have to use one of those in the first place. Duh. 20100620 07:04:52< shadowmaster> but it's still better than nothing. 20100620 07:07:05< shadowmaster> I'm bored. 20100620 07:08:37< Espreon> Read FMA? It's finally finished. 20100620 07:09:44< shadowmaster> no, I want to do something interesting 20100620 07:09:50< shadowmaster> *do*, not read 20100620 07:10:39< shadowmaster> wow, there's actually a gopher KIOSlave for KDE SC 4.4 20100620 07:26:30< Espreon> Hmmmm... maybe I should use the fact that I moved my KDE configuration/killed .kderc as a chance to customize KDE the way want... seeing things from the true defaults. 20100620 07:26:44< Espreon> ... and all that... 20100620 07:30:25-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [] 20100620 07:47:25-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100620 07:59:55< shadowmaster> boom? 20100620 08:00:05< shadowmaster> earthquake? o O 20100620 08:00:21< shadowmaster> ah no, just "boom" 20100620 08:03:25< Espreon> Hmmmmmm? 20100620 08:03:37< shadowmaster> some underground noises. 20100620 08:04:01< Espreon> Live near a mine? 20100620 08:04:06< shadowmaster> while they occur frequently, they have aBnot at all 20100620 08:04:26< shadowmaster> and I've heard those noises before weak earthquakes 20100620 08:04:35< shadowmaster> and beore the GREAT earthquake too. 20100620 08:05:08< shadowmaster> (5 to 10 seconds before) 20100620 08:06:03< shadowmaster> OH, JOY! 20100620 08:06:13< shadowmaster> TuxOnIce 3.1.1.1! 20100620 08:06:23< shadowmaster> I wonder what motivated them to use such a funny number 20100620 08:06:48< shadowmaster> hm, there's no ML announcement yet, hw come? 20100620 08:08:50< shadowmaster> THEORETICALLY, I could switch to Linux 2.6.34 now, since there's a TOI patch for it 20100620 08:08:58< shadowmaster> I would just have to avoi KMS. 20100620 08:09:16 * Espreon 's still using .32 20100620 08:09:22< shadowmaster> no big deal, but, I tend to be afraid of regressions 20100620 08:09:36< shadowmaster> PAH 20100620 08:09:43< shadowmaster> I don't lose anything with trying and running for a while 20100620 08:10:04< shadowmaster> but wait, maybe I should wait to see when 2.6.34.1 patch will come out 20100620 08:10:08< shadowmaster> *when the 20100620 08:10:27< shadowmaster> what if there were block layer regressions that could kill my data? 20100620 08:10:42< shadowmaster> what if there were usbserial regressions that could leave me Internetless again? 20100620 08:11:18< Espreon> ... what if suokko screwed up rendering code in a way that only affects your chip? 20100620 08:11:19< shadowmaster> what if the cake I have in the fridge turns out to be awful? 20100620 08:11:22< shadowmaster> O o 20100620 08:11:37< shadowmaster> Espreon: well, the worst that can happen is... 20100620 08:12:05< shadowmaster> http://shadowm.rewound.net/blog/?p=68 20100620 08:12:56< Espreon> True. 20100620 08:14:59< shadowmaster> I'll upgrade the patched 2.6.33 to TOI 3.1.1.1.1 and that's it 20100620 08:15:07< shadowmaster> 3.1.1.1 anyway 20100620 08:25:15< Espreon> OK, 149 out of 249 emerged.. 20100620 08:27:37< shadowmaster> now, I wonder wtf is the difference between my source dir .config and my running kernel's config 20100620 08:27:46 * shadowmaster runs diff 20100620 08:28:11< Espreon> ... and you find a massive difference in the rendering code... 20100620 08:28:27< Espreon> ... at the end, you see "suokko was here!" 20100620 08:28:42< Espreon> *rendering configuration 20100620 08:29:13< shadowmaster> eh. 20100620 08:29:27< shadowmaster> there are not many .config options that have to do with radeon DRM support :| 20100620 08:29:46< shadowmaster> ahhh, it looks like I removed a lot of HDD controller stuff 20100620 08:30:01< shadowmaster> yet forgot to rename the config 20100620 08:32:50< shadowmaster> ahhh, there goes make-kpkg 20100620 08:33:15< shadowmaster> a simple command line and I get both binary and header .debs in exchange 20100620 08:33:45< shadowmaster> why has openSUSE to make it hard to build kernels? 20100620 08:33:59< shadowmaster> *why does openSUSE have to blah blah 20100620 08:34:34< Espreon> ... and all distros should include Aegyptus. 20100620 08:34:46< Espreon> The excuse: Mandriva's doing it. 20100620 08:35:23< shadowmaster> what is it? 20100620 08:35:48< shadowmaster> also, Mandriva is shit. Don't forget that. 20100620 08:35:55< Espreon> One of the few fonts that supports hieroglyphs. 20100620 08:36:43< Espreon> Hieroglyphs are serious shit you know. 20100620 08:37:06< shadowmaster> let me install a package related to that to see what fonts it contains 20100620 08:37:49< Espreon> shadowmaster: Thy test page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_hieroglyphs#Hieroglyphs_in_Unicode 20100620 08:38:06< shadowmaster> it has that font apparently 20100620 08:38:11< shadowmaster> /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-ancient-scripts/Aegyptus.otf 20100620 08:38:19< Espreon> Oh, cool. 20100620 08:39:09< Espreon> shadowmaster: What's the package name? 20100620 08:39:15 * Espreon wants moar fonts 20100620 08:39:34< shadowmaster> ttf-ancient-fonts 20100620 08:39:48< shadowmaster> this is in Debian's testing repository, and probably in stable too 20100620 08:40:23< Espreon> Indeed. 20100620 08:40:29< shadowmaster> yeah, also stable 20100620 08:40:40< Espreon> I have a huge list of scripts for which I need fonts. 20100620 08:40:53< Espreon> *decent fonts 20100620 08:41:01 * Espreon needs to find a good Devanagari font. 20100620 08:41:05< shadowmaster> anyway, http://shadowm.rewound.net/font4p.png 20100620 08:41:16< Espreon> ... and I do wanna learn Sanskrit, so, yeahz. 20100620 08:41:24< shadowmaster> font4.png, actually 20100620 08:41:45< shadowmaster> I forgot to restart Iceweasel after installing, hm 20100620 08:41:53< Espreon> Cool. 20100620 08:42:09< shadowmaster> doesn't seem to do any difference 20100620 08:42:48< Espreon> shadowmaster: Would you see if Debian has a package for Indic scripts? 20100620 08:42:55< Espreon> ... such as Devanagari... 20100620 08:43:26< shadowmaster> ttf-indic-fonts is a metapackage that pulls other packages that contain the actual fonts 20100620 08:43:39< shadowmaster> including Devanagari 20100620 08:44:00< Espreon> BTW, I use wqy-zenhei for CJKV. 20100620 08:44:10< Espreon> ... if you needed a decent CJKV font. 20100620 08:44:26< shadowmaster> unlikely :P 20100620 08:44:28< Espreon> (BfW uses that for CJK) 20100620 08:44:56< shadowmaster> since I can only read Spanish and English in the latin alphabet 20100620 08:45:13< Espreon> Well, I prefer to have things render decently. 20100620 08:46:11< Espreon> shadowmaster: Be cool, like me and AI0867... learn to read runic alphabets. 20100620 08:47:22< shadowmaster> :| 20100620 08:48:03< Espreon> What? There are hidden messages in the portraits for the dwarves written in Elder Futhark. 20100620 08:48:23< shadowmaster> I know 20100620 08:48:30< shadowmaster> I was around by the time of their creation, you know. 20100620 08:48:49< Espreon> We know, we know. 20100620 08:48:55< Espreon> So.... learn to read them! 20100620 08:49:54< shadowmaster> meh, the web interface to packages.d.o doesn't allow me to see *all* results matching criteria 20100620 08:49:58< shadowmaster> only the first 100 20100620 08:50:52< shadowmaster> so it'd be easier to use aptitude or synaptic to list all ttf-* packages 20100620 08:53:51< Espreon> Hmmmm... it even supports Anatolian... 20100620 08:54:36< shadowmaster> compiling kernels: 22 minutes 20100620 08:54:42< shadowmaster> well, kernel 20100620 08:55:09< shadowmaster> compiling Wesnoth: probably something between 30 minutes and 1 hour 20100620 08:55:32< shadowmaster> the catch? both are done with 4 compiler threads, but the latter relies on ccache 20100620 08:55:50< shadowmaster> and it still takes longer...how stupid. 20100620 08:56:09 * shadowmaster installs kernel 20100620 08:56:39 * shadowmaster installs headers 20100620 08:57:01 * shadowmaster reboots 20100620 08:57:09-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Quit: new kernel] 20100620 09:04:08< Espreon> shadowmaster: Thanks, for telling me about that package. 20100620 09:08:39-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100620 09:08:56< shadowmaster> np 20100620 09:13:26< Espreon> shadowmaster: Thank you so much for putting the thought of looking through Debian's repository for fonts in my head. 20100620 09:14:00< shadowmaster> hey, it was just a synaptic search dialog away from me all this time 20100620 09:14:11< Espreon> Heh... 20100620 09:18:36< Espreon> Crap, I exited my Terminator window... 20100620 09:18:50< Espreon> Meh, oh well, I'll emerge everything else tomorrow. 20100620 09:19:36< shadowmaster> that's why I ran my massive aptitude safe/full-upgrade on a screen session 20100620 09:20:09< shadowmaster> wait, no I didn't even run it on a screen session, but you get the idea 20100620 09:20:47< shadowmaster> (I actually ran it on a text terminal on tty1 - that was possibly a good idea after all since X became unusable during the upgrade) 20100620 09:32:33-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20100620 09:35:24< shadowmaster> UTF-7 is scary 20100620 09:35:36< Espreon> Oh God! 20100620 09:35:48< shadowmaster> case in point, second example in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTF-7#Examples 20100620 09:36:08< shadowmaster> good that it never became popular 20100620 09:37:09< shadowmaster> it was intended for email applications, yes, but it still sounds scary 20100620 09:38:25-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100620 09:41:25< shadowmaster> "UTF-16 and UTF-32 are incompatible with ASCII files, and thus require Unicode-aware programs to display, print and manipulate them, even if the file is known to contain only characters in the ASCII subset. Because they contain many zero bytes, the strings cannot be manipulated by normal C string handling for even simple operations such as copy." 20100620 09:41:56< Espreon> Well, no one cares about those. 20100620 09:42:08< shadowmaster> exactly why did the Microsoft dumbasses opt for UTF-16 for storing Win32 Resource string tables?! 20100620 09:42:35< shadowmaster> I see how that can easily ruin performance when working with text. 20100620 09:42:37 * Espreon shrugs 20100620 09:42:51< Espreon> Well, they do make shitty, inferior products... 20100620 09:43:13< shadowmaster> the oddest thing is that this was in use even around NT 4 20100620 09:43:29< shadowmaster> ahhhh, UCS-2, not UTF-16 20100620 09:44:01< shadowmaster> and the difference between UCS-2 and UTF-16 is...complicated 20100620 09:44:18< shadowmaster> anyway, I believe some of their newer infrastructure inventions use UTF-8 now 20100620 09:44:34< shadowmaster> I haven't taken a deep look at Vista and 7 for obvious reasons 20100620 09:44:51< shadowmaster> <.< of course, Qt also uses UTF-16. 20100620 09:45:50< Espreon> Oh wow... 20100620 09:45:54< Espreon> WHY! 20100620 09:46:35< shadowmaster> fortunately in KDE's case that becomes amazingly transparent to the user 20100620 09:46:50 * Espreon wishes that Qt had decent Shavian support 20100620 09:47:08< Espreon> ... the mere presence of Shavian in Qt apps will make things go crazy... 20100620 09:55:50< shadowmaster> plasma-widget-smooth-task package 20100620 09:56:02 * shadowmaster chekcks that out 20100620 10:02:07-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Quit: good night] 20100620 10:14:21-!- Aethaeryn [~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has quit [Quit: uqit] 20100620 10:15:01-!- zookeeper [~l@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100620 10:41:17-!- Blueblazed [~nick@adsl-99-186-64-86.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20100620 11:44:27-!- loonybot [~loonybot@ppp79-139-137-245.pppoe.spdop.ru] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100620 11:44:27-!- loonybot [~loonybot@ppp79-139-137-245.pppoe.spdop.ru] has quit [Changing host] 20100620 11:44:27-!- loonybot [~loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100620 11:44:30-!- mode/#wesnoth-umc-dev [+v loonybot] by ChanServ 20100620 11:45:52-!- loonycyborg [~sergey@wesnoth/developer/loonycyborg] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100620 12:58:43-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy] 20100620 14:29:36-!- lizard_r [~Rolf@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/lizard] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100620 15:03:25-!- Elvish_Pillager [~eli@71-10-224-192.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100620 15:04:12-!- timotei [~timo@wesnoth/developer/timotei] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100620 16:31:01-!- timotei [~timo@wesnoth/developer/timotei] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20100620 16:41:21< Elvish_Pillager> If we outlaw Prohibition, only outlaws will have Prohibition. 20100620 17:10:26-!- Gambit [~quassel@pa-67-234-73-7.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100620 19:45:11-!- Blueblazed [~nick@99.186.64.86] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100620 19:52:34-!- timotei [~timo@wesnoth/developer/timotei] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100620 20:19:47-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100620 20:45:21-!- Blueblazed [~nick@99.186.64.86] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20100620 21:14:04-!- loonycyborg [~sergey@wesnoth/developer/loonycyborg] has quit [Quit: I ATE'NT DEAD] 20100620 21:14:41-!- loonybot [~loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20100620 21:22:06-!- loonybot [~loonybot@ppp79-139-137-245.pppoe.spdop.ru] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100620 21:22:06-!- loonybot [~loonybot@ppp79-139-137-245.pppoe.spdop.ru] has quit [Changing host] 20100620 21:22:06-!- loonybot [~loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100620 21:22:09-!- mode/#wesnoth-umc-dev [+v loonybot] by ChanServ 20100620 21:23:02-!- loonycyborg [~sergey@wesnoth/developer/loonycyborg] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100620 22:07:36-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy] 20100620 22:15:12-!- lizard_r [~Rolf@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/lizard] has left #wesnoth-umc-dev [] 20100620 22:23:53-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100620 22:29:10-!- Valkier [~IceChat7@c-174-55-104-2.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Oops. 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