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20100621 00:51:14< Espreon> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=436611#p436611 ... Why can't this guy just give up?
20100621 00:59:12< Espreon> shadowmaster: Do you think he'll ever give up?
20100621 00:59:26< shadowm_laptop> unlikely
20100621 00:59:40< Espreon> Of course...
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20100621 01:30:58< Espreon> ... almost... done...
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20100621 03:43:00< Espreon> Hmmmmmm...
20100621 03:43:20< shadowm_laptop> indeed
20100621 03:43:40< Espreon> AI0867: So, how much of Unicode do you cover (with decent fonts)?
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20100621 03:44:32< Espreon> Yay...
20100621 03:44:40< Elvish_Pillager> Wesnoth's command-line output is mostly this: "error audio: Could not load sound file 'arrive.wav'." :D
20100621 03:45:02< Espreon> Oh, wow...
20100621 03:45:07 * Elvish_Pillager has removed the file deliberately
20100621 03:45:14< Espreon> Heh...
20100621 03:45:21< AI0867> Espreon: not sure
20100621 03:45:39< Espreon> I'm still working on the Indic scripts.
20100621 03:45:46 * Espreon 's too lazy to finish
20100621 03:49:52< Espreon> AI0867, shadowmaster: http://www.alanwood.net/unicode/
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20100621 04:13:54< Espreon> shadowmaster: Where is Terminator's configuration file?
20100621 04:14:47< shadowm_laptop> you mean that I deleted it from the website without noticing?
20100621 04:15:10< Espreon> No, I mean, where is it spawned?
20100621 04:15:48< shadowm_laptop> spawned?
20100621 04:16:02< shadowm_laptop> ~/.config/terminator/config
20100621 04:16:26< Espreon> Thanks.
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20100621 05:18:46< shadowm_laptop> Espreon...?
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20100621 05:23:07< Espreon> shadowm_laptop: I'm scared...
20100621 05:23:15< Espreon> æ
20100621 05:23:40< Espreon> irssi is hating UTF-8 right now.
20100621 05:24:11< Espreon> shadowm_laptop: ... and yes, I /quit manually.
20100621 05:24:20< Espreon> ... and willingfully...
20100621 05:25:45< Espreon> shadowmaster: Try inputting some UTF-8.
20100621 05:26:03< shadowm_laptop> á é
20100621 05:26:14< shadowm_laptop> let me get to my remote session
20100621 05:26:24< shadowm_laptop> also þorn
20100621 05:26:33< shadowmaster> AAAH
20100621 05:26:40< shadowmaster> AI0867: SOMETHING IS BROKEN
20100621 05:26:56< shadowmaster> UTF-8 isn't working, although I did start screen with the -U switch
20100621 05:27:14< shadowmaster> save us!
20100621 05:35:49< AI0867> þorn
20100621 05:35:52< AI0867> works here
20100621 05:36:16< AI0867> did you both start *and* resume screen with -U?
20100621 05:37:02 * Espreon never had to use -U
20100621 05:37:56< AI0867> it's the only way to be *sure* screen does utf-8 properly
20100621 05:38:35< Espreon> WELL...
20100621 05:38:48< Espreon> OK, that worked.
20100621 05:39:00 * Espreon wonders why he had to use -U now.
20100621 05:39:01< Espreon> þ
20100621 05:39:38< shadowm_laptop> yeah, I never had to use -U before when resuming
20100621 05:40:03< shadowmaster> ...and it still doesn't work after doing that
20100621 05:40:08< AI0867> worksforme
20100621 05:40:13< shadowmaster> I'm seeing question marks
20100621 05:40:28< shadowmaster> Question Marks of Doom™
20100621 05:40:40< shadowmaster> and ™ doesn't look right in the input line
20100621 05:40:52< shadowmaster> it looks like an inverted D surrounded by squares
20100621 05:40:56< shadowmaster> rectangles
20100621 05:41:17< Espreon> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/prepone — Silly Indians.
20100621 05:41:20< AI0867> I just reconnected, it still works
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20100621 05:41:41< shadowm_laptop> you upgraded stuff, didn't you?
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20100621 05:41:45< AI0867> thought it might have to do with a glibc upgrade...
20100621 05:41:55< AI0867> but I didn't notice anything over here
20100621 05:42:16< shadowm_laptop> UTF-8 á é í ó ú ć þ ™ ®
20100621 05:42:26< shadowmaster> still doesn't work
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20100621 05:42:50< shadowm_laptop> wait a second
20100621 05:42:58< shadowm_laptop> > perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
20100621 05:43:02< shadowm_laptop> hm...
20100621 05:43:10< AI0867> ai@ai0867:~$ man screen >/dev/null
20100621 05:43:10< AI0867> man: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct
20100621 05:43:10< AI0867> zsoelim: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct
20100621 05:43:10< AI0867> manconv: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct
20100621 05:43:59 * Espreon doesn't get it...
20100621 05:44:01< shadowm_laptop> $ irssi -! > /dev/null
20100621 05:44:02< shadowm_laptop> perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
20100621 05:44:02< shadowm_laptop> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
20100621 05:44:02< shadowm_laptop> 	LANGUAGE = (unset),
20100621 05:44:02< shadowm_laptop> 	LC_ALL = (unset),
20100621 05:44:04< shadowm_laptop> 	LANG = "en_US.UTF-8"
20100621 05:44:06< shadowm_laptop>     are supported and installed on your system.
20100621 05:44:08< shadowm_laptop> perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
20100621 05:44:11< shadowm_laptop> Math::BigInt: couldn't load specified math lib(s), fallback to Math::BigInt::FastCalc at /usr/share/perl5/Crypt/DH.pm line 6
20100621 05:44:23< Espreon> Why does everyone love "once" and "twice", but everyone says "three times" instead of "thrice"?
20100621 05:44:28< shadowm_laptop> the last one is normal...at least in the VPS
20100621 05:44:30< Espreon> The bastards.
20100621 05:45:21< AI0867> same LANG here
20100621 05:45:43< shadowm_laptop> what can I do?
20100621 05:45:46< AI0867> no idea
20100621 05:45:51< shadowm_laptop> I can't live without UTF-8!
20100621 05:45:57< Espreon> Nor can I!
20100621 05:46:06< shadowm_laptop> yes, but it works for you with -U, Espreon 
20100621 05:46:27< Espreon> Why do I now have to use "-U"‽
20100621 05:46:33< Espreon> THIS SUCKS!
20100621 05:46:55< shadowm_laptop> AI0867: what about reconfiguring locales?
20100621 05:47:38< AI0867> I just regenerated the locales
20100621 05:47:44< AI0867> the error messages from man are gone
20100621 05:48:08< shadowm_laptop> reminds me that I had a similar issue *during* the installation of glibc 2.11
20100621 05:48:20< shadowm_laptop> (upgrading from glibc 2.10 - the problem went away after the installation finished)
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20100621 05:48:46< shadowm_laptop> á é í ó ú ™ þ ® ©
20100621 05:49:05< shadowmaster> AI0867: fix confirmed
20100621 05:49:18< shadowmaster> and I don't need to pass -U when reattaching
20100621 05:49:25< AI0867> Espreon: you had to use -U because -U forces the terminal into utf-8 mode
20100621 05:49:39< AI0867> normally the locale does that (en_US.UTF-8), but the locale was broken
20100621 05:51:00< Espreon> WELL!
20100621 05:51:28< Espreon> AI0867: Next time, when you upgrade glibc, make sure that en_US.UTF-8 and friends are all right!
20100621 05:51:38< Espreon> They're our little buddies...
20100621 05:51:40< shadowm_laptop> Espreon: this shouldn't have happened
20100621 05:51:45< Espreon> Right, shadowm_laptop?
20100621 05:51:49< Espreon> Jeß jeß.
20100621 05:52:02< shadowm_laptop> as I said, stupidity has ensued during upgrades but it usually goes away once they are completely installed
20100621 05:52:08< shadowm_laptop> and configured
20100621 06:00:02< Espreon> Good, good, work on the Ghast has resumed.
20100621 06:03:24< shadowm_laptop> meh, I don't like that unit
20100621 06:04:34< Espreon> Why not?
20100621 06:07:34< Espreon> shadowm_laptop: Would you be willing to touch wmlxgettext for me?
20100621 06:17:38< shadowmaster> no
20100621 06:18:12< Espreon> DAMN IT!
20100621 06:18:17< shadowmaster> I have seen wmlxgettext before and it looks like written by someone who just wanted to show off their Perl skills without any consideration to future maintainers who want something readable.
20100621 06:18:40< Espreon> Well, that sucks.
20100621 06:19:15< shadowmaster> also, the Ghast unit is redundant.
20100621 06:20:01< shadowmaster> it became redundant when the ability which provided its only raison d'être was assigned to a mainline unit, the Necrophage
20100621 06:20:14< shadowmaster> now it's just silly.
20100621 06:20:27< shadowmaster> there's no point in having a L3 unit in the Ghoul line.
20100621 06:21:25 * Espreon rolls his eyess
20100621 06:21:29< Espreon> *eyes
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20100621 08:20:03< shadowmaster> I'm bored.
20100621 08:21:29< shadowmaster> hey! this is so true: http://xkcd.com/756/
20100621 08:22:52< timotei> hey shadowmaster :)
20100621 08:23:25< shadowmaster> hi timotei 
20100621 08:23:33< timotei> how are u doin'?
20100621 08:23:44< shadowmaster> I'm freezing
20100621 08:24:00< timotei> Because of coldness? or because you're bored?
20100621 08:24:16< shadowmaster> freezing because it's really cold here
20100621 08:46:06-!- ChanServ changed the topic of #wesnoth-umc-dev to: Wesnoth-UMC-Dev Project discussion and support channel | http://wesnoth-umc-dev.ai0867.net | Staff: AI0867, Espreon, shadowmaster | Project @ SF.net: http://tinyurl.com/umcdev | IRC logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org, http://irclogs.ai0867.net
20100621 09:01:03< Espreon> Now to find out what Sabayon
20100621 09:01:09< Espreon> 's using... for GTK apps...
20100621 09:01:24 * Espreon screwed up gtk-qt/whatever, and... yeahz...
20100621 09:01:34< Espreon> *apparently screwed up
20100621 09:02:30< Espreon> So, either it was using some form of gtk-qt, or it was using a theme that wasn't QtCurve...
20100621 09:05:54< Espreon> Having VirtualBox is so nice...
20100621 09:08:15< timotei> VMWare is so much better than virtualBox :P
20100621 09:08:28< Espreon> O RLLY?
20100621 09:10:34< timotei> yeah :D
20100621 09:10:45< timotei> once installing VMWare Tools in the guest opearting system
20100621 09:11:32< Espreon> Well, uh... VirtualBox has... guest additions...
20100621 09:13:09< timotei> :D
20100621 09:13:53< Espreon> So... YEAHZ!
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20100621 09:58:22< shadowmaster> VMWare is probably better than VirtualBox
20100621 09:58:39< shadowmaster> however, VirtualBox is mostly open source and also gratis
20100621 09:59:23< shadowmaster> and since I don't have money...
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20100621 11:09:13< timotei> :)
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20100621 21:24:27< zookeeper> AI0867, what are you doing that space-stuff for?
20100621 21:25:40< AI0867> thunderstone
20100621 21:25:46< zookeeper> okay
20100621 21:25:56< AI0867> these are one of the few salvagable things from spacenoth
20100621 21:32:11< Espreon> OK, I fixed my GTK appearance configuration...
20100621 21:33:13< Espreon> Now to do random crap...
20100621 21:40:44< zookeeper> AI0867, here's a pack of planets, nebulas and a star for you: http://filebin.ca/azrmyn/stuff.zip they should be safe to use license-wise, just don't ask any questions about where they come from. ;)
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20100621 21:41:01< zookeeper> should be better than what you're salvaging from starnoth
20100621 21:41:25< zookeeper> but you need to figure out how the put them into action yourself, i just threw together the relevant files into the archive.
20100621 21:42:43< zookeeper> s/starnoth/spacenoth
20100621 21:45:36<+CIA-35> wesnoth-umc-dev: AI0867 * r7338 /trunk/Thunderstone_Era/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Get planet 7 to work (thanks to boucman and zookeeper)
20100621 21:46:17<+CIA-35> wesnoth-umc-dev: AI0867 * r7339 /trunk/Thunderstone_Era/terrain-graphics/planet.cfg: umcpropfix
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20100621 23:30:58< shadowmaster> a small scratch appeared on the screen
20100621 23:31:35< Espreon> Oh noez!
20100621 23:31:55< shadowmaster> it's barely visible if my eyes are right on front of it, but at an angle I can see a small (1cm) pink scratch
20100621 23:32:21< shadowmaster> (the test background is white)
20100621 23:32:44< shadowmaster> ah well I suppose I'll have to accept that I'll eventually need to switch to a quadcore
20100621 23:35:14< Espreon> Sadly, I have a scratch on my TV.
20100621 23:35:32< Espreon> As long as I don't stare at the center.... yeahz........
20100621 23:36:58 * zookeeper rolls eyes
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