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20100604 00:10:06< Gambit> Espreon: Nope. Can't do it.
20100604 00:10:19< Gambit> You can't force stupidity.
20100604 00:10:23< Gambit> It has to come naturally.
20100604 00:11:04< Gambit> Wait. I know what to do.
20100604 00:11:55< Espreon> O RLLY?
20100604 00:11:57< Gambit> Yes
20100604 00:12:05 * Gambit puts desperate silence ending gambit into effect
20100604 00:12:15 * Espreon is immune to Silence.
20100604 00:12:25< Gambit> I have a ribbon
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20100604 00:12:36< Gambit> francine: Hey! How are you?
20100604 00:12:39< francine> Gambit: Yes. 
20100604 00:12:46-!- mode/#wesnoth [+o shadowmaster] by ChanServ
20100604 00:12:48< Gambit> awww
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20100604 00:13:02-!- mode/#wesnoth [-o shadowmaster] by shadowmaster
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20100604 00:13:29< Gambit> Espreon: We've been discovered.
20100604 00:13:31< Gambit> Abort!
20100604 00:13:51< shadowmaster> quit blaming espreon
20100604 00:14:13< Espreon> Yeah.
20100604 00:14:19 * Espreon casts Shell on himself.
20100604 00:14:19< Gambit> But it was clearly his fault.
20100604 00:19:56< Espreon> Well, this sucks.
20100604 00:21:07< PetePorty> O.o
20100604 00:21:13< Gambit> Espreon: Come to #wesnothxp
20100604 00:21:17< Gambit> we have loads of fun in there
20100604 00:21:26< Gambit> Just ask PetePorty :D
20100604 00:21:53< PetePorty> shadowmaster, I know about the r¡tabby tab tab thinghy. I just wanted to make him mad.
20100604 00:22:13< Espreon> Make who mad? There was no Esperon the other day.
20100604 00:22:16< Gambit> Aggravating an officer of the law?
20100604 00:22:24< Gambit> *attempted aggravation
20100604 00:22:25< PetePorty> she started it
20100604 00:22:30< Gambit> That's an $800 fine.
20100604 00:22:40< Espreon> There was a she?
20100604 00:22:47< PetePorty> you a man?
20100604 00:22:50< Gambit> HAHA
20100604 00:22:52< PetePorty> hmmm...
20100604 00:22:53< Espreon> Jeß...
20100604 00:23:05< PetePorty> ok, *he started it
20100604 00:23:09< Gambit> shadowmaster: Can I use your "you FOOL!" meme here?
20100604 00:23:11< Gambit> Please?
20100604 00:23:17< shadowmaster> it's not a meme
20100604 00:23:19< shadowmaster> it's a running gag
20100604 00:23:20< Gambit> I'll be careful with it I promise.
20100604 00:23:22< shadowmaster> and no
20100604 00:23:26< PetePorty> lol
20100604 00:23:36< Gambit> Will you please show it to us? :D
20100604 00:23:51< PetePorty> did you unban me from #wesnothxp Gambit?
20100604 00:23:52< Espreon> He shall not.
20100604 00:23:56< Gambit> -little kid voices in the background- yeah show us!
20100604 00:24:01< Espreon> ... and he shall not.
20100604 00:24:06< Gambit> -little kid voices continue- it's so cool! Please?
20100604 00:24:19< Gambit> -synchronized little kid voices saying "Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase"-
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20100604 00:24:35< PetePorty> lol
20100604 00:24:38-!- mode/#wesnoth [-o shadowmaster] by shadowmaster
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20100604 00:24:57< PetePorty> dude, why don't you keep the channel operator status?
20100604 00:26:17< Espreon> PetePorty: Hwy do you think?
20100604 00:26:34< Gambit> It's too powerful to hold on for prolonged periods of time.
20100604 00:26:38< PetePorty> how would I know esperon
20100604 00:26:46< Gambit> It has to go back into a lead box when you're not using it
20100604 00:26:50< Gambit> for the operator's own safety.
20100604 00:26:56< PetePorty> orly? shad isnt powerful enough?
20100604 00:27:00< Espreon> PetePorty: http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml
20100604 00:27:22< Espreon> shadowmaster: Would you please point out this Esperon fellow?
20100604 00:27:29< PetePorty> ok
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20100604 00:28:09< shadowmaster> behold
20100604 00:28:15< Espreon> shadowmaster: Good find.
20100604 00:28:42< PetePorty> Esperon, hello
20100604 00:28:57< PetePorty> omg! It's nacho!
20100604 00:29:09< Gambit> Who?
20100604 00:29:28< PetePorty> Esperon is Nacho!
20100604 00:32:28< shadowmaster> 18:24:35 <PetePorty> lol
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20100604 00:32:34< shadowmaster> it's funny until it happens to you
20100604 00:32:41< PetePorty> huh?
20100604 00:32:53< shadowmaster> "DUDE!"
20100604 00:32:55< shadowmaster> etc.
20100604 00:33:08< PetePorty> oh... it was 'DOOD!' btw
20100604 00:33:16< PetePorty> and I wasnt laughing about that
20100604 00:33:28< PetePorty> it was about the kids...
20100604 00:34:22< Gambit> shadowmaster: lately it's funny even if it does happen to you
20100604 00:34:28< Gambit> since odds are nothing wrong was actually done
20100604 00:35:03< PetePorty> yeah, why are you constantly banning the cool people over here?
20100604 00:35:14< shadowmaster> okay, may bad
20100604 00:35:15< Gambit> PetePorty: You just don't understand.
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20100604 00:36:00< PetePorty> 'O RLLY?' quoting Espreon.
20100604 00:36:04-!- shadowmaster was kicked from #wesnoth by shadowmaster [shadowmaster]
20100604 00:36:04< PetePorty> lol
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20100604 00:36:22< PetePorty> hahaha
20100604 00:39:07< shadowmaster> yeah.
20100604 00:39:13< shadowmaster> if it was you, you'd not be laughing
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20100604 00:39:46-!- mode/#wesnoth [-bo *!*@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster shadowmaster] by shadowmaster
20100604 00:39:56< Espreon> It beeth true.
20100604 00:40:04< PetePorty> I laughed cuz you banned yourself man.... that's weird.
20100604 00:40:26< Espreon> Cool story, bro.
20100604 00:40:42< shadowmaster> except I didn't, or I'd not have been able to rejoin
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20100604 00:41:16< Zerovirus> pfft, we al know you have like 5 different logins
20100604 00:42:09< PetePorty> isn't espreon a pokemon?
20100604 00:42:14< shadowmaster> I banned my hostname
20100604 00:42:38< shadowmaster> so shadowm_laptop was also affected, except it wasn't
20100604 00:42:46< Zerovirus> Eventually they're going to run out of elements for Eevee to evolve into you know
20100604 00:42:57< Zerovirus> So I think at that point they should start doing crossbreeds
20100604 00:43:09< Zerovirus> Jolteon+Flareon=Nucleon!
20100604 00:43:13< PetePorty> nah, they have enough elements
20100604 00:43:15< Zerovirus> (or ENergon)
20100604 00:43:21< Zerovirus> Speaking of which WHERES MY METAL EEVEE
20100604 00:43:26< Zerovirus> Chromeon
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20100604 00:43:41< Espreon> Where's my dragon Eevee?
20100604 00:43:50< Espreon> PetePorty: No.
20100604 00:43:58< PetePorty> huh?
20100604 00:44:05< Zerovirus> I want atomic or nuclear or quantum as an element >.>
20100604 00:44:11< Espreon> PetePorty: You're thinking of Espeon.
20100604 00:44:12< Zerovirus> Nuclear Eevee= Atomeon?
20100604 00:44:19< PetePorty> oh...
20100604 00:44:32< PetePorty> sorry, been so long since I played my last pokemon game....
20100604 00:44:44< PetePorty> agumon!
20100604 00:44:46< PetePorty> :D
20100604 00:45:08< Espreon> ...
20100604 00:45:16< PetePorty> ok...
20100604 00:45:34< shadowmaster> agumon is a digimon.
20100604 00:46:00< PetePorty> 'O RLLY?' quoting Espreon 
20100604 00:46:11< shadowmaster> quote yourself
20100604 00:46:15< PetePorty> nah
20100604 00:46:23< PetePorty> quotiing yourself is dumb
20100604 00:46:28< shadowmaster> /quiet PetePorty 
20100604 00:46:31< shadowmaster> "oops"
20100604 00:46:34< PetePorty> dooood!
20100604 00:46:38< shadowmaster> haha
20100604 00:46:52< PetePorty> :' (
20100604 00:47:09< PetePorty> I'm totally gonna tell your mother.
20100604 00:47:15< shadowmaster> 22:23:48 <shadowmaster> I don't care 
20100604 00:47:21< PetePorty> -.-
20100604 00:47:32< PetePorty> I'll tell your father then.
20100604 00:48:08< Espreon> His father beeth a reasonable man, thus he shall not listen to thee.
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20100604 00:48:17 * PetePorty is looking for shadowmasters father
20100604 00:48:27< shadowmaster> blah
20100604 00:48:43< shadowmaster> you know, I could just keep you quieted.
20100604 00:48:44< shadowmaster> because.
20100604 00:49:10< shadowmaster> also, 22:23:48 <shadowmaster> I don't care 
20100604 00:49:19< PetePorty> -.-
20100604 00:49:37< PetePorty> you know... not caring is a symptom of depression
20100604 00:49:49< Espreon> So?
20100604 00:50:01< Espreon> PetePorty: Showest thy credentials!
20100604 00:50:24< PetePorty> ok, give me your mail and I shall send them
20100604 00:50:30< Espreon> No, no, silly me... the "-est" is dropped in the imperative mood.
20100604 00:50:56< shadowmaster> PetePorty: I don't care
20100604 00:51:25< PetePorty> ...
20100604 00:51:31< Espreon> PetePorty: No, for thou art a stranger!
20100604 00:51:33< PetePorty> I'm telling your dad
20100604 00:51:43< PetePorty> ok, yu are the one who wanted to know...
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20100604 00:52:31< Espreon> shadowmaster: No, we need ivyel for this.
20100604 00:52:36< shadowmaster> nay
20100604 00:52:41< Espreon> Not yet?
20100604 00:54:00< Espreon> PetePorty: But seriously, unless you have the proper credentials... yeahz.
20100604 00:54:30< PetePorty> ok, give me your mail and I shall send them.
20100604 00:55:01< Gambit> *shallst
20100604 00:55:07< Espreon> No, I'm not gonna give my address to someone who could be Shotacat or Shotatiger.
20100604 00:55:44< PetePorty> ok, then don't ask for credentials :)
20100604 00:56:08< Espreon> Then, shut up.
20100604 00:56:20< PetePorty> shadowmaster, do you live on Paso el Roble?
20100604 00:56:26< shadowmaster> no
20100604 00:56:27< PetePorty> no, I wont
20100604 00:56:36< Espreon> shadowmaster: Pssst.... he will...
20100604 00:56:38< PetePorty> you don't?
20100604 00:56:45< shadowmaster> nope
20100604 00:56:53< shadowmaster> and we already talked about this stalking thing
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20100604 00:57:27< PetePorty> in Av.Portales?
20100604 00:57:38< Espreon> PetePorty: No, the Dear Leader resides in North Korea.
20100604 00:57:51< PetePorty> no he doesn't
20100604 00:57:55< Espreon> Yes, he does.
20100604 00:58:00< PetePorty> in Av.Mexico then?
20100604 00:58:04< Espreon> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dear_Leader
20100604 00:58:07< shadowmaster> 18:56:53 <shadowmaster> and we already talked about this stalking thing
20100604 00:58:23< PetePorty> no we didn't
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20100604 00:58:31< shadowmaster> now we do
20100604 00:58:38< Espreon> Jeß jeß.
20100604 00:59:05< shadowmaster> don't say that I quieted you this time
20100604 00:59:11< shadowmaster> for that is not true
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20100604 01:04:02< shadowmaster> anyway, I'm going to play a game
20100604 01:04:08< Espreon> Have fun.
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20100604 01:13:17 * Espreon wonders hwy PetePorty likes shadowmaster so much.
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20100604 01:13:55< PetePorty> thanks.
20100604 01:15:16 * Espreon wants an answer
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20100604 01:16:06< PetePorty> I had to, I was quited
20100604 01:16:27< PetePorty> quieted*
20100604 01:16:39< Espreon> No, I want the real answer.
20100604 01:17:47< PetePorty> you've made no question, therefore, I can not answer.
20100604 01:18:31< Espreon> OK, so, hwy do you like shadowmaster so much?
20100604 01:18:50< PetePorty> I don't.
20100604 01:19:09< Espreon> O RLLY?
20100604 01:20:00< PetePorty> answer yourself that last question.
20100604 01:20:39< Espreon> Hmmmmmm?
20100604 01:21:12< PetePorty> that is not a question.
20100604 01:21:27< Espreon> Uh, yeah, it is.
20100604 01:22:18< PetePorty> no, it is not, not because you use a question mark at the end of a pointless word it becomes a question, things just don't work that way.
20100604 01:22:33< Espreon> O RLLY?
20100604 01:22:45< shadowmaster> you two stop fighting each other, I'm busy trying to kill demons
20100604 01:23:24< PetePorty> YA RLY
20100604 01:24:01< StealthyCoin> The maturity level in here is truly amazing.
20100604 01:24:24< PetePorty> exactly...
20100604 01:24:32< Espreon> Indeed.
20100604 01:24:50< shadowmaster> dark, enclosed spaces
20100604 01:24:57< shadowmaster> I hate these
20100604 01:25:11< Espreon> What's wrong this time?
20100604 01:25:15< PetePorty> what game you playing?
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20100604 01:25:20< shadowmaster> I'm playing something
20100604 01:25:40< PetePorty> what is the title of the game you are playing?
20100604 01:31:22< PetePorty> bbl
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20100604 01:38:02< Espreon> Goodbye.
20100604 01:43:21< Gambit> He's playing Just Cause 2
20100604 01:43:24< Gambit> game of the century
20100604 01:47:50< PetePorty> back
20100604 01:47:55< PetePorty> really?
20100604 01:48:04< PetePorty> good game? worth downloading?
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20100604 01:59:43< PetePorty> nobody gonna answer me?
20100604 02:00:40< PetePorty> bbl, dinner time... c ya, bye
20100604 02:13:23< Gambit> PetePorty: If you pirate it I will cut your nuts off, put them in a blender, and then make you drink them.
20100604 02:13:32< Gambit> Square and Eidos deserve EVERY SINGLE PENNY
20100604 02:13:37< Gambit> for this epic game
20100604 02:13:57< Gambit> In fact it'd be the first game that I'd call $70 a fair price for.
20100604 02:14:02< Gambit> I'd have bought it at $70
20100604 02:14:04< shadowmaster> this is Wesnoth
20100604 02:14:07< Gambit> It was only $60
20100604 02:14:09< shadowmaster> piracy is off-topic here
20100604 02:14:11< Gambit> I'll buy all their DLC.
20100604 02:14:28< shadowmaster> just sayin'
20100604 02:14:32< Gambit> shadowmaster: We're discussing the opposite of piracy. :D
20100604 02:14:40< shadowmaster> ooh, VirtualBox 3.2.2
20100604 02:14:53< Gambit> Does it still slow down my internet with it
20100604 02:15:00< Gambit> *+s virtual network card
20100604 02:15:09< Gambit> If so then it still sucks.
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20100604 02:15:15< shadowmaster> I don't know.
20100604 02:15:16< shadowmaster> I don't have your hardware
20100604 02:15:26< shadowmaster> everything is pretty smooth here
20100604 02:15:44< Gambit> shadowmaster: It costs 40kbps on my transfer rate!
20100604 02:16:01< Gambit> Not worth it at all.
20100604 02:16:07< Gambit> Even when it's not running.
20100604 02:16:12< Gambit> Just by having the silly thing installed.
20100604 02:16:13< shadowmaster> 22:23:48 <shadowmaster> I don't care 
20100604 02:16:27< Gambit> Aren't you always griping about bandwidth?
20100604 02:16:34< shadowmaster> we all know that Windows' network layer sucks
20100604 02:16:42< shadowmaster> I don't need to worry about bandwidth anymore
20100604 02:17:54< shadowmaster> and VirtualBox appears to be better tested on Linux rather than Windows  or Solaris hosts
20100604 02:18:26< PetePorty> back
20100604 02:18:36< PetePorty> oh, it's not a free game then.
20100604 02:18:45< PetePorty> mmm....that sucks.
20100604 02:18:53< shadowmaster> it's a fictituous game in case you didn't notice
20100604 02:18:57< shadowmaster> it's called "joke"
20100604 02:19:03< PetePorty> really?
20100604 02:19:08< shadowmaster> except it's in better taste than your usual jokes
20100604 02:19:18< PetePorty> hmmm.
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20100604 02:19:21< PetePorty> I like eidos
20100604 02:19:26< shadowmaster> I was playing Doom anyway
20100604 02:19:26< PetePorty> and square
20100604 02:19:31< PetePorty> oh...
20100604 02:19:46< PetePorty> everybody tells me to play it, but I simply dont want to.
20100604 02:20:00< shadowmaster> the old DOS game though
20100604 02:20:03< shadowmaster> except on a Linux port
20100604 02:20:55< PetePorty> I think just cause 2 sounds cool
20100604 02:21:18< PetePorty> I read 'totall liberty' .... sounds cool
20100604 02:23:35< PetePorty> is it like a fuse between GTA and DeusEx? sounds like it is...
20100604 02:24:27< PetePorty> But I'm gonna play wesnoth right now.
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20100604 03:10:21< PetePorty> any recomendation on good music?
20100604 03:10:54< Valkier> What are you in to?
20100604 03:11:19< PetePorty> anything
20100604 03:11:24< PetePorty> but heavy metal
20100604 03:11:38< Valkier> I'd say A Perfect Circle, Powerman 5000, or Tantric.
20100604 03:11:48< PetePorty> thx
20100604 03:11:50< Valkier> Tantric: Coming Undone is especially good for ass kicking.
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20100604 03:15:16< PetePorty> up to what I've heard of A Perfect Circle... I like it.
20100604 03:15:34< Valkier> They're quite enjoyable.
20100604 03:18:58< PetePorty> powerman 5000... not so much, I'm sorry to say...
20100604 03:23:01< Valkier> lol
20100604 03:23:10< Valkier> They were my childhood.
20100604 03:23:48< PetePorty> Tantric, good, not as much as A Perfect Circle, but good nonetheless
20100604 03:24:15< Valkier> Well, A Perfect Circle is kind of the apex of the genre if you ask me.
20100604 03:24:21< Valkier> Then there's Nine Inch Nails.
20100604 03:24:32< Valkier> Right Where It Belongs was an amazing song.
20100604 03:25:07< PetePorty> ...
20100604 03:27:16< PetePorty> totally adding them to my facebook profile...
20100604 03:27:25< Valkier> Who?
20100604 03:27:46< PetePorty> A Perfect Circle
20100604 03:27:51< Valkier> Ahh
20100604 03:27:58< Valkier> Check out Tool as well. Same lead singer.
20100604 03:28:09< Valkier> I don't like Tool as much though.
20100604 03:28:47< PetePorty> I'll check it out... I'm listening to nine inch nails right now...
20100604 03:29:12< Valkier> Which song?
20100604 03:29:43< PetePorty> not sure... lemme check
20100604 03:30:13< PetePorty> Just like you imagined
20100604 03:30:47< Valkier> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZSWMK68zM8
20100604 03:37:54< PetePorty> GREAT!
20100604 03:38:31< Valkier> Nobody knows these bands anymore. Makes me sad.
20100604 03:39:15< shadowmaster> I'm bored.
20100604 03:39:25< Valkier> Go play Wesnoth.
20100604 03:39:52< PetePorty> I loved it... I'm translating the song to show it to a couple of people.
20100604 03:39:56< shadowmaster> Not fun.
20100604 03:40:03< PetePorty> O.O!!!!!!
20100604 03:40:10< PetePorty> HERETIC!
20100604 03:40:14< Valkier> Non believer!
20100604 03:40:33 * shadowmaster rolls eyes
20100604 03:40:48< Valkier> Oh right. I don't even have Wesnoth installed right now.
20100604 03:40:57< Valkier> You're off the hook for now.
20100604 03:41:53< PetePorty> ..
20100604 03:42:04< PetePorty> I have 5 Wesnoth versions installed
20100604 03:42:21< shadowmaster> I haven't installed Wesnoth since 2006
20100604 03:42:52< PetePorty> 1.6.5 - 1.7.something - 1.8.0 - 1.8.2 and 0.1
20100604 03:42:54< shadowmaster> installing it is too counter-productive for my purposes
20100604 03:44:53< Valkier> I install it when I need to do research for portraits.
20100604 03:48:57< Gambit> He "compiles" it
20100604 03:49:15< Gambit> Like a real man.
20100604 03:49:53< shadowmaster> I mean, I run it from the source dir
20100604 03:50:34< shadowmaster> I could install if I wanted, but that'd be just silly
20100604 03:50:49< PetePorty> I'd like to be awesome spriting....
20100604 03:51:02< PetePorty> that's gonna be my next wish in the forums....
20100604 03:51:13< Valkier> Granted. Start practicing.
20100604 03:51:26< PetePorty> I have, I really have....
20100604 03:51:36< Valkier> Gotta do it more!
20100604 03:51:40< PetePorty> I have, I really have....i just don't have the magic...
20100604 03:52:09< Valkier> If it makes you feel any better, I'm terrible at it too.
20100604 03:52:33< PetePorty> I've been frankensteining a lot, I've used MS paint, GIMP, photoshop, I started creating my own sprites....and they suck
20100604 03:52:56< PetePorty> but you are awesome at portraits... I have no artistic strengths at all
20100604 03:53:06< shadowmaster> you saw how I started
20100604 03:53:12< Valkier> Pfft. Matter of opinion.
20100604 03:53:16< shadowmaster> hm, but you didn't see how I ended
20100604 03:55:12< PetePorty> I think you started awesomly
20100604 03:55:19< PetePorty> compared to me anyway
20100604 03:55:31< PetePorty> I SUCK, seriously.
20100604 03:56:08< shadowmaster> awesomely?
20100604 03:56:09< shadowmaster> no
20100604 03:56:24< PetePorty> compared to me, you did
20100604 03:56:38< shadowmaster> well, nobody's actually seen my very first attempts
20100604 03:56:48< shadowmaster> which shall remain a secret for the rest of eternitiy
20100604 03:56:53< shadowmaster> eternity dammit
20100604 03:58:00< PetePorty> : D
20100604 04:01:16< Gambit> shadowmaster: I've decided to make an IRC bot in WML.
20100604 04:01:25< Gambit> I don't know how, but I'm going to!
20100604 04:01:54< Gambit> norbort has a bot connecting to the lobby
20100604 04:02:12< Gambit> Crab_ is making that Gamemaster thing
20100604 04:02:17< Gambit> that can let games send messages
20100604 04:02:28< Gambit> I think it will all come togethor eventually.
20100604 04:04:31< shadowmaster> die
20100604 04:04:50 * Gambit dies.
20100604 04:05:00< Gambit> Headshot
20100604 04:05:03< Gambit> Arena Master
20100604 04:05:07< Gambit> Revenge
20100604 04:05:23< Gambit> Double kill
20100604 04:07:31< Gambit> If wml could load web pages it'd be a matter of passing the message to send in a url parameter...
20100604 04:07:40< shadowmaster> shut up
20100604 04:07:50< shadowmaster> wesnoth is not a web browser
20100604 04:08:00< Gambit> I don't want it to be a web browser.
20100604 04:08:04< Gambit> I want it to make http requests.
20100604 04:08:24< Gambit> It doesn't even have to retrieve the file content.
20100604 04:08:34< Gambit> It can be a one way request.
20100604 04:08:53< shadowmaster> wesnoth is not a web client
20100604 04:09:18< shadowmaster> and web development is not a toy.
20100604 04:09:36< shadowmaster> remember that when you find your pages being abused to cause damage on your hosts
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20100604 04:14:05< Gambit> I always take great care when my pages are destined for elsewhere.
20100604 04:14:27< PetePorty> damn... Right Where It Belongs  made me remember a lot of stuff from my childhood...
20100604 04:14:30< Gambit> Hosted on this machine... not so much.
20100604 04:14:43< Gambit> PetePorty: You remember it like it was yesterday?
20100604 04:15:06< PetePorty> no, it reminded me a lot of thoughts I ussed to have
20100604 04:15:17< PetePorty> used*
20100604 04:15:23< Gambit> "just pull the trigger"
20100604 04:15:27< Gambit> "it'd be so easy"
20100604 04:15:40< PetePorty> no...
20100604 04:16:19< PetePorty> the main phrase was: What if all the world's inside of your head
20100604 04:16:19< PetePorty> , just creations of your own?
20100604 04:16:42< Valkier> Yup
20100604 04:16:54< PetePorty> and it was... something I used to think a lot about when I was arround 7 or maybe 8
20100604 04:16:56< shadowmaster> Gambit: yeah, and your machine is reachable from elsewhere
20100604 04:17:30< Valkier> And which side of the glass are you on.
20100604 04:17:39< Valkier> May be someone elses imagination. ;-)
20100604 04:17:45< PetePorty> yeah...
20100604 04:17:59< Gambit> shadowmaster: Really now?
20100604 04:18:04< Gambit> Because I haven't been able to get in.
20100604 04:18:14< PetePorty> I laso thought that there was a chance I could suddenly disappear.... just cuz someone thought  about it
20100604 04:18:36< Gambit> I can't even connect via another machine on the same network
20100604 04:18:37< Gambit> damn router
20100604 04:18:41< PetePorty> I believed thoughts had some kind of supreme power.... imagination.... maybe everything is just imagination
20100604 04:18:51< shadowmaster> Gambit: it is replying to ICMP PINGs
20100604 04:19:09< Gambit> You can't load any webpages on it though.
20100604 04:19:18< shadowmaster> who knows, I don't want to know
20100604 04:19:28< Gambit> I do. I've tried.
20100604 04:19:34< shadowmaster> you still look like a tasty DDoS target for some reason ;)
20100604 04:19:47< Gambit> oh no! franbot's shut down
20100604 04:19:49< Gambit> what will the world do
20100604 04:20:14< PetePorty> I mean... when I see a ball... I see a ball, or at least what I call a ball, maybe you see something completely diferent, but we've both been teached it's called a ball, and its rounded and you use it to play, but maybe play and round r different in ur mind than in mine....
20100604 04:20:15< Gambit> unlike most ddos targets I'm unimportant enough to just restart the router.
20100604 04:20:33< Gambit> and then call the isp if it happens again
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20100604 04:22:16< PetePorty> big stuff....
20100604 04:22:22 * Gambit probably just displayed his ignorance regarding how the internet works.
20100604 04:22:24< Gambit> But oh well
20100604 04:22:27< Gambit> Good night all.
20100604 04:22:35< PetePorty> sleep well Gambit
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20100604 04:22:41< Valkier> Night Gambit.
20100604 04:23:13< PetePorty> damn Valkier... now I'm al thoughtful and it's all your fault.
20100604 04:23:19< PetePorty> all*
20100604 04:23:44< artisticdude> Shall I sing a lullaby?
20100604 04:23:53< PetePorty> no, you should not
20100604 04:23:55< Valkier> You can get me my coffee!
20100604 04:23:59< Valkier> I got work to do tonight.
20100604 04:24:03< Valkier> 7 AM is my bedtime!
20100604 04:24:27< PetePorty> its 10:24 in here... and I'm about to go to sleep.
20100604 04:24:40< shadowmaster> good for you
20100604 04:24:55< artisticdude> I do not know how you do that. 
20100604 04:25:03< PetePorty> Club de la comedia!
20100604 04:25:09< PetePorty> c ya guys... tv time....
20100604 04:25:16< PetePorty> my only tv time in my week
20100604 04:25:25< shadowmaster> TV sucks
20100604 04:25:34< shadowmaster> you can't interact with it
20100604 04:25:42< shadowmaster> you can't fight with it
20100604 04:25:47< PetePorty> you dont like el club de la comedia?
20100604 04:25:53< shadowmaster> I don't watch TV
20100604 04:26:05< PetePorty> I know...
20100604 04:26:20< PetePorty> Me either, but I watch only this....
20100604 04:26:21< shadowmaster> on the other hand, TV once a week sucks more than TV every day
20100604 04:26:28< PetePorty> cuz it's good
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20100604 04:26:34< shadowmaster> by which I mean, are you sharing TVs?
20100604 04:26:49< PetePorty> with my family you mean?
20100604 04:26:51< shadowmaster> because here we've always had every one a TV of our own
20100604 04:26:53< shadowmaster> yes
20100604 04:27:17< PetePorty> well, my bro uses it all the day, but I get to use it at night
20100604 04:27:27< shadowmaster> my TV is my desktop computer atm. Which I don't use nowadays because of hard disk problems.
20100604 04:27:36< shadowmaster> which I'm too lazy to do anything about.
20100604 04:27:44< shadowmaster> I prefer the laptop.
20100604 04:27:47< PetePorty> ...
20100604 04:28:09< PetePorty> I bet u r like the most mujeriego person ever...
20100604 04:28:18< shadowmaster> I did use it during the recent lunacy showcase
20100604 04:28:29< shadowmaster> I mean, post-earthquake stuff
20100604 04:28:46< PetePorty> yeah...
20100604 04:28:57< PetePorty> my post earthquake stuff was praying....
20100604 04:29:03< shadowmaster> I don't have much use for it besides watching the news
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20100604 04:29:07< shadowmaster> I mean, TV sucks.
20100604 04:29:13< shadowmaster> It didn't use to be like that before.
20100604 04:29:19< shadowmaster> but I was in school.
20100604 04:29:20< PetePorty> you can watch the news online
20100604 04:29:28< shadowmaster> yeah
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20100604 04:29:53< shadowmaster> anyway, afk now
20100604 04:30:08< PetePorty> well, I insist, this is the ONLY show I watch on the TV, although I do watch anime online also some other stuff...
20100604 04:30:12< PetePorty> yeah, bye
20100604 04:30:15< PetePorty> sleep well
20100604 04:30:18< PetePorty> c ya tomorrow
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20100604 04:33:54< hagabaka> anyone want to play Wesnoth Tower Defense, or another coop game?
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20100604 12:12:16< SekoIdiootti> Wesnoth becomes better every day... :0
20100604 12:12:29< SekoIdiootti> I mean, when all the new things get committed, it's like... a commercial huge game.
20100604 12:21:54< SekoIdiootti> if there's any art contributor... pleeaaaaase read: http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=432223#p432223
20100604 12:22:33< SekoIdiootti> ugh it seems no one of them is here... Unless... They're in disguise! :O xD
20100604 12:30:17< Unnheulu> Hallo woody
20100604 12:32:31< SekoIdiootti> hi
20100604 12:33:12< Unnheulu> SekoIdiootti: like the screeny?
20100604 12:33:29< SekoIdiootti> ?
20100604 12:33:33< Unnheulu> pm
20100604 12:34:07< SekoIdiootti> but......?
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20100604 14:04:47< G-Lo> Hello. Is there a way to definitely disable auto-saves?
20100604 14:05:05< Unnheulu> In preferences iirc
20100604 14:05:11< Unnheulu> *iirc*
20100604 14:05:51< G-Lo> If I remember well, there's just a way to store them compressed or not, I still have to type :nosaves each time I star wesnoth
20100604 14:06:01< G-Lo> *start
20100604 14:08:32< G-Lo> I just checked: no "disable auto-saves" in preferences
20100604 14:08:45< G-Lo> just a cursor to set the number to keep
20100604 14:13:57< G-Lo> -number + amount
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20100604 15:18:45< Unnheulu> http://wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=22640&start=165
20100604 15:18:52< Unnheulu> Wowee, mega necromancy
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20100604 16:00:26< Unnheulu|Laptop> AAAARRRGH
20100604 16:00:45< Unnheulu|Laptop> My eyes; midnight_carnival is using tkinter :O
20100604 16:01:11< Unnheulu|Laptop> He uploaded broken code to the forum
20100604 16:01:18< sevis> What's wrong with tkinter?
20100604 16:01:30< Unnheulu|Laptop> Ugly
20100604 16:01:43< sevis> The code or the result?
20100604 16:02:08< Unnheulu|Laptop> Result :/
20100604 16:02:14< sevis> Who cares?
20100604 16:02:26< Gambit> Apparently Unnheulu|Laptop does.
20100604 16:02:32< Unnheulu|Laptop> Plus afaik it doesn't have a glade equivalent, so tthe whole gui must be made in the code
20100604 16:02:37 * Unnheulu|Laptop thought he was using pygame
20100604 16:02:58< sevis> Tk apps aren't great-looking, but there's nothing inherently wrong with them.
20100604 16:03:18< sevis> (or, in other words, /me is stuck using one of these horribly ugly things due to there being no good alternative >.>)
20100604 16:03:52 * Unnheulu|Laptop wonders why midnight_carnival uploaded inconsistent bugged code
20100604 16:03:57-!- Unnheulu|Laptop is now known as Unnheulu
20100604 16:05:52< zookeeper> Unnheulu, because he's clueless when it comes to anything except posting nonsense on the forums?
20100604 16:06:04< zookeeper> well, just my impression.
20100604 16:06:27 * Unnheulu is glad his ide can clean-up whitespace for him
20100604 16:07:49 * Unnheulu understand now why it doesn't work
20100604 16:08:13< Unnheulu> He must have some really weird parser, 'cause there are double indents and stuff in there
20100604 16:16:24< Unnheulu> Bah, I'm not fixing that for him...
20100604 16:18:12< Unnheulu> What nonsense is this: reeds= new Terrain("reed bed",[],2,1,1)
20100604 16:30:47< Gambit> Unnheulu: What if it's fake code?
20100604 16:31:15< Gambit> Only there to distract you from the special virus now multiplying on your machine.
20100604 16:32:37< Soliton> G-Lo: yeah, it is intentionally just a manual thing.
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20100604 16:59:11< G-Lo> Soliton: ot makes huge maps very long to load
20100604 16:59:14< G-Lo> *it
20100604 16:59:39< Soliton> the initial autosave?
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20100604 17:13:45< G-Lo> I guess so
20100604 17:20:24< Soliton> i don't see what other connection you could mean between loading and saving.
20100604 17:21:31< Soliton> does wesnoth actually do an autosave on load though?
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20100604 17:29:47< G-Lo> there's a difference for the loading time of a map if I previously did :nosaves, very noticeable, as I have an old and slow computer
20100604 17:30:22< G-Lo> If this is intentionnal, I have my answer, then
20100604 17:30:37< G-Lo> -n
20100604 17:31:40< G-Lo> even if I don't understand why this is intentional
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20100604 17:34:45< Soliton> it's not intentional that :nosaves speeds up loading.
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20100604 17:46:29< G-Lo> ok
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20100604 18:40:51< Unnheulu> It's the mouse!
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20100604 18:55:13< Unnheulu> thespaceinvader, sick of me telling you about cardiff city fc, so you moved to oxford? ;)
20100604 18:55:26< Unnheulu> Don't worry; I'll keep you up to date on their scores to
20100604 18:56:18< thespaceinvader> yes
20100604 18:56:24< thespaceinvader> yes, that's entirely the reason i left
20100604 18:56:28< thespaceinvader> you simply annoy me that much
20100604 18:59:29< Valkier> I'll move to the UK and we'll party, TSI.
20100604 18:59:39< Valkier> We will party like AMERICANS!
20100604 19:00:58< Valkier> So...
20100604 19:01:13< Valkier> We need some alcohol and two guys to beat the snot out of each other.
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20100604 19:19:46< Unnheulu> Hah
20100604 19:19:52< Unnheulu> shadowmaster isn't in #python
20100604 19:20:10< Unnheulu> That's one channel he isn't in
20100604 19:20:12< Valkier> Do you miss him?
20100604 19:21:42 * Unnheulu facepalms
20100604 19:22:00< Unnheulu> I performed a string operation on an integer, no wonder it didn't work
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20100604 19:27:01< crimson_penguin> hi elvish_sovereign 
20100604 19:27:31< elvish_sovereign> hi penquin
20100604 19:28:07< Unnheulu> elvish_sovereign, you are in irc?...
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20100604 19:28:12< Unnheulu> Uhohs
20100604 19:28:32< Unnheulu> I was joking about all the previous derigatory comments I'd made
20100604 19:28:44< elvish_sovereign> i know :)
20100604 19:28:54< Unnheulu> :P
20100604 19:29:11< Unnheulu> Btw, don't bother downloading midnight_carnivals game
20100604 19:29:21< Unnheulu> It's broken, and is filled with nosensical code
20100604 19:29:54< Valkier> Ouch
20100604 19:30:12< Valkier> Maybe offer him some pointers?
20100604 19:30:19< Unnheulu> You'll spend longer fixing it than playing
20100604 19:30:24< Unnheulu> Valkier, I fixed one file for him
20100604 19:30:52< elvish_sovereign> haha dont ask me my wml is in a mess
20100604 19:31:07< Unnheulu> The other file is filled with nonsense
20100604 19:31:14< Valkier> Just saying, trashing the guy isn't going to do anyone any good.
20100604 19:31:18< Unnheulu> elvish_sovereign, python is different
20100604 19:31:30< Unnheulu> Valkier, perhaps, but he obviously hasn't tested it/has a weird parser
20100604 19:31:52< Unnheulu> And its not hard to keep consistency with whitespace, most ide's have a function for that
20100604 19:32:37< elvish_sovereign> It's 1:30. Gotta go. See ya!
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20100604 19:32:52< Unnheulu> C'ya
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20100604 19:34:24< [Relic]> Hello :)
20100604 19:34:36< Valkier> Howdy!
20100604 19:34:42< Valkier> Lets get married!
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20100604 20:00:23 * Unnheulu feels evil requiring all script files for his game to have the .asc extension
20100604 20:00:39< Valkier> Nerd!
20100604 20:00:59< Unnheulu> >8-]
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20100604 20:32:47< Unnheulu|Laptop> thespaceinvader, what d'ya mean by 16 to go?
20100604 20:32:51< Unnheulu|Laptop> 16 what to go?
20100604 20:34:39< thespaceinvader> Unnheulu|Laptop: you'll see
20100604 20:34:47< Unnheulu|Laptop> Ok...
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20100604 20:35:19 * Unnheulu just realised he is an absolute idiot...
20100604 20:35:38< Unnheulu> Afaict I'm importing a file three or four times; the code in there is being repeated...
20100604 20:35:47< Unnheulu> Meh; idc
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20100604 20:37:19< KickSrv> Hello.
20100604 20:38:07< Unnheulu> Eww, underscores
20100604 20:38:10< Unnheulu> Hello all the same
20100604 20:38:41< Unnheulu> Is it your job to kick people?
20100604 20:39:04< Unnheulu> Something along the lines of /msg KickSrv kick <username> <password>
20100604 20:39:11 * Unnheulu tries
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20100604 20:39:37< Unnheulu> IT DOESN'T WORK
20100604 20:39:40< Unnheulu> Yay
20100604 20:39:43< Unnheulu> It worked :)
20100604 20:39:51-!- KickSrv is now known as CrapCode
20100604 20:41:28< CrapCode> Mr. White liked Master of Monsters? eww! that game was craaap
20100604 20:42:33< CrapCode> Langrisser was a sick attempt of Sega to chase Fire Emblem, Master of Monsters was plain poop. And yet they inspired him to create Wesnoth?
20100604 20:43:49< CrapCode> Wesnoth is OK, but it's two prototypes just plain $ucked 84115
20100604 20:44:20 * Unnheulu 's game is inspired by wesnoth and the stronghold series
20100604 20:45:16< Unnheulu> CrapCode, interesting nick btw
20100604 20:45:21< Unnheulu> Very...mature
20100604 20:45:37< Unnheulu> You aren't by any chance from either the UK or the USA
20100604 20:45:48< Unnheulu> Fits my stereotypes perfectly :)
20100604 20:46:57< Valkier> lol. Someone logged in just to trash talk?
20100604 20:47:04< Valkier> This should be fun.
20100604 20:47:07< Unnheulu> Valkier, it would appear so 
20100604 20:47:21< CrapCode> [definition]Stronghold (series) - A series of RTS games, utilizing a complex economy system, where instead of "limit", actual "free peasants" are recruited into the player's army.[/definition]
20100604 20:48:06< thespaceinvader> Unnheulu: it's a UMC project i've been developing.  The countdown is the number of sprites I have left to do.  I'll be releasing once I get back from australia
20100604 20:48:15< Unnheulu> Ah, I subsituted the complex economy for the massively simpler wesnoth system; although with scripting you can always bring that back :)
20100604 20:48:23< Unnheulu> thespaceinvader, cool; faction?
20100604 20:48:32< thespaceinvader> era
20100604 20:48:37< Unnheulu> (Judging by the number I'd guess a complete era)
20100604 20:48:44< Unnheulu> I was right! Yay
20100604 20:48:45< thespaceinvader> yep ;)
20100604 20:48:57< thespaceinvader> no further details til I release though
20100604 20:49:00< Unnheulu> Aww
20100604 20:49:05< Unnheulu> Is it aimed at mainline?
20100604 20:49:10< thespaceinvader> no offence ot the peanut gallery, but i want to keep the development to myself
20100604 20:49:19< Unnheulu> Sure thing
20100604 20:49:27< thespaceinvader> it's aimed to fit in with mainline canon, but probably not to actually go into mainline
20100604 20:49:29< Unnheulu> Didn't know you spoke wml ;)
20100604 20:49:33< thespaceinvader> in fact almost certainly not
20100604 20:49:38< thespaceinvader> i don't, very well
20100604 20:49:44< Valkier> CrapCode: Well go on. We care.
20100604 20:49:51< thespaceinvader> i have a coder on board, but he's busy
20100604 20:50:00< Unnheulu> Ah
20100604 20:50:01< thespaceinvader> i mgiht find more when i release
20100604 20:50:30< CrapCode> so how could inspiration from 2 craaap games lead to making a quite good project?
20100604 20:50:57< hagabaka> there are probably good things about those games too
20100604 20:51:10< Unnheulu> CrapCode, how does two colourful gases merging lead to colourless liquids?
20100604 20:51:38< Unnheulu> (Or vice versa)
20100604 20:52:27< Valkier> TSI: You can tell me about your project!
20100604 20:52:59< Unnheulu> thespaceinvader, Valkier would help you with portraits...won't you Valkier? :P
20100604 20:52:59< CrapCode> Master of Monsters was a $$$$$$, and so was Langrisser. Crap + crap = 2crap
20100604 20:53:18< Valkier> Totally!
20100604 20:53:21< Unnheulu> CrapCode, yet -1+-1=2 :)
20100604 20:53:33< thespaceinvader> Unnheulu: that's a low priority, given that campaigns are pretty far down the list of things to do with the thing, but we have chatted about it ;)
20100604 20:53:44< Unnheulu> So 2 bad equals one good!
20100604 20:54:01< Unnheulu> thespaceinvader, I notice you didn't wait for Valkier's reply ;)
20100604 20:54:14< Valkier> My reply to what?
20100604 20:54:18< thespaceinvader> we have chatted about it, as i said ;)
20100604 20:54:22 * Valkier is lost in this conversation
20100604 20:54:23< hagabaka> -1+-1 = -2
20100604 20:54:24< Unnheulu> Ah :P
20100604 20:54:32< Valkier> Oooo! That conversation!
20100604 20:54:38< Valkier> Yeah, TSI and I are tight.
20100604 20:54:40< Unnheulu> hagabaka, -1--1 equals 0 then, I dunno
20100604 20:54:50< Valkier> He's all like, I'm doin this! And I'm all like, I wanna!
20100604 20:54:57 * Unnheulu smirks
20100604 20:55:05< sevis> x-x generally equals zero...
20100604 20:55:15< Unnheulu> Heh
20100604 20:55:26< Unnheulu> -x--x to I guess
20100604 20:55:44< CrapCode> I dloaded the "master of monsters" thing, got bored in 2 minutes. Got bored of Langrisser in 7.
20100604 20:55:47< sevis> -x--x = -x+x = x-x...
20100604 20:55:50< hagabaka> WINAN
20100604 20:56:04< Unnheulu> CrapCode, besides; we all have different opinions
20100604 20:56:31< hagabaka> CrapCode: most games from years ago wil bore you in minutes
20100604 20:56:32< Unnheulu> I now have firmly planted into my brain an image of some bored juvenile needlessly flaming and thinks he's in charge of the world
20100604 20:56:56< Unnheulu> hagabaka, I love colossal cave adventure!
20100604 20:57:10< Unnheulu> (Sorry; I'm not helping am I?)
20100604 20:57:16< CrapCode> Maybe my impression of those 2 was spoiled by knowing that they were prototypes of !W!?
20100604 20:57:34< Valkier> I'm confused. Is he flaming or praising?
20100604 20:57:48< hagabaka> I don't think he flamed
20100604 20:57:53< Unnheulu> CrapCode, they were not prototypes of wesnoth
20100604 20:58:22< Unnheulu> And !W! !+ Wesnoth
20100604 20:58:24< Valkier> Archetypes perhaps.
20100604 20:58:34< Unnheulu> s/+/=/
20100604 20:58:49 * Unnheulu goes and finds out what characters need to be escaped
20100604 20:59:12< CrapCode> Maybe I should've played them before knowing of Wesnoth?
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20100604 20:59:23< Unnheulu> Hiah shadowm_laptop
20100604 20:59:43< Unnheulu> shadowm_laptop, seeing as your here, care to tell me what characters generally should be escaped?
20100604 20:59:48< Unnheulu> Or must I look it up myself :/
20100604 21:00:01< shadowmaster> it depends on the programming language~[4~[4~ and context
20100604 21:00:20< Unnheulu> In perl substitution I guess
20100604 21:01:24< shadowmaster> + needs to be escaped since it's a pattern metacharacter
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20100604 21:02:58 * Unnheulu goes corrects his previous substitutions
20100604 21:03:04< Unnheulu> s/\+/=/
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20100604 21:03:15 * Unnheulu wonders if the \ needs to be escaped^^
20100604 21:03:22< shadowmaster> yes
20100604 21:03:23< ElectroPig> gentoo? that OS with half a desktop and 1/4 of a kernel? |_()|_
20100604 21:03:32< shadowmaster> but not if it's escaping something
20100604 21:04:04< Valkier> Nobody even mentioned gentoo...
20100604 21:04:13< shadowmaster> ElectroPig: who are you and why haven't I banned you yet?
20100604 21:04:14< Unnheulu> shadowmaster, I thought there were occassions where it needed to be escaped even if it was escaping something
20100604 21:04:19< ElectroPig> ABCD guy
20100604 21:04:39< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: you think too much
20100604 21:04:52< Valkier> First time a brit got accused of that.
20100604 21:04:53< ElectroPig> because of ABCD I said about gentoo
20100604 21:04:54< Valkier> har har
20100604 21:05:04< Unnheulu> shadowmaster, it's to escape (haha?) the thoughts of having ugly code
20100604 21:05:25< Unnheulu> Valkier, aww that's mean :(
20100604 21:05:36< Valkier> lol
20100604 21:05:49< Unnheulu> Roald Dahl was british! 
20100604 21:05:53< Valkier> Enjoy the European economy subsidizing itself!
20100604 21:05:56< Unnheulu> Erm, I think that just proves your point...
20100604 21:06:04< Unnheulu> Valkier, hehe, we use sterling :)
20100604 21:06:15< Valkier> For now
20100604 21:06:18< Unnheulu> In fact, it's good for us
20100604 21:06:20< shadowmaster> ElectroPig: do I need to repeat my question? :)
20100604 21:06:30< Unnheulu> Value of the sterling is going up compared to dollar and euro
20100604 21:06:35< ABCD> huh? what?
20100604 21:06:41< Valkier> For now
20100604 21:06:46< Unnheulu> Valkier, as long as we have a coalition government I can't see it happening
20100604 21:06:53< ElectroPig> Shadowmaster, I am FKA GeorgeGhoal.
20100604 21:07:02-!- mode/#wesnoth [+o shadowmaster] by ChanServ
20100604 21:07:02< Valkier> Chances are, your government and the rest of Europe will end of merging.
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20100604 21:07:10< Unnheulu> One of the parties in the coalition is against joining the euro, forgot which
20100604 21:07:12<@shadowmaster> that's all I needed to know
20100604 21:07:27< Unnheulu> His ip?
20100604 21:07:32-!- mode/#wesnoth [+b *!*@178.34.179.*] by shadowmaster
20100604 21:07:38< Unnheulu> Ah
20100604 21:07:42-!- mode/#wesnoth [-o shadowmaster] by shadowmaster
20100604 21:07:55< shadowmaster> I can get his IP with /whois, so that's out of the question
20100604 21:07:56< Unnheulu> Harsher than you've ever done to me :/
20100604 21:08:18< Valkier> Shadowmaster was banning me from umc dev once a night for a bit.
20100604 21:09:00< Valkier> Go ahead and ask him to try Windows 7.
20100604 21:09:11< Unnheulu> Eww no
20100604 21:09:14< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: because I can't stand when he goes into idiot mode
20100604 21:09:21< shadowmaster> and he already went into it
20100604 21:09:25< Valkier> lol
20100604 21:09:34< shadowmaster> I mean GeogrGhoal
20100604 21:09:42< Valkier> Doh..
20100604 21:09:43< Unnheulu> It's basically xp which doesn't support most games and buttons/windows are twice the size
20100604 21:09:51< shadowmaster> I can't stand his habit of changing nicknames either
20100604 21:09:51< Unnheulu> shadowmaster, you know him?
20100604 21:09:53< shadowmaster> yes
20100604 21:10:03< Valkier> Shadowmaster: Who is GeogrGhoal?
20100604 21:10:14< Unnheulu> He is either using a proxy or russian
20100604 21:10:18< shadowmaster> GeorgeGhoal
20100604 21:10:22< shadowmaster> he's not using a proxy
20100604 21:10:28< shadowmaster> I know that IP range
20100604 21:10:33< Unnheulu> Kay
20100604 21:10:39< Valkier> Well how do you know him? :-P
20100604 21:11:01< Valkier> Unnheulu clearly has not used the glorious OS that is Windows 7.
20100604 21:11:04< shadowmaster> you do realize I'm here for more time than either of you are?
20100604 21:11:13< Unnheulu> Valkier, I hate windows 7...
20100604 21:11:24< Unnheulu> Seriously
20100604 21:11:56< Valkier> But according to the commercials, Windows 7 was your idea!
20100604 21:11:58< Unnheulu> Valkier, for a start, you need compatability mode for everything, and half the time not even that works
20100604 21:12:21< Unnheulu> It doesn't have virtual desktops, which are a must have for me when I'm programming
20100604 21:12:34< Valkier> Compatability mode? Heck no. I was running Diablo II and Starcraft on it just fine without anything special.
20100604 21:12:39< shadowmaster> ...
20100604 21:12:51< Unnheulu> It looks like the compiz guys made it
20100604 21:13:10< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: if you are going to participate in a troll fight about OSes, at least do it with valid arguments
20100604 21:13:20< Unnheulu> shadowmaster, they are valid for me :)
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20100604 21:13:40< shadowmaster> thank you very much
20100604 21:13:54< Valkier> I bet you get upset when your coffee cup doesn't make onion rings too. :-P
20100604 21:14:01< shadowmaster> I'm going to get food from the fridge
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20100604 21:35:44< PetePorty> Hello
20100604 21:35:52< Valkier> Yo
20100604 21:36:05< PetePorty> how you doin?
20100604 21:36:19< Valkier> Not bad. Yourself?
20100604 21:36:38< PetePorty> meh... I'm kinda sick, but thanks to that I skipped school
20100604 21:36:43< PetePorty> so... GREAT!
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20100604 21:37:28< Valkier> School skipping can be good.
20100604 21:37:35< PetePorty> someone was banned... and it wasn't me!
20100604 21:37:41< PetePorty> yeah... its good
20100604 21:37:46< shadowmaster> quieted
20100604 21:37:53< shadowmaster> but if you want, I can fix it for you
20100604 21:37:57< Valkier> You in college or high school?
20100604 21:38:02< PetePorty> uhhh... nah, thx
20100604 21:38:08< PetePorty> high school
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20100604 21:38:34< PetePorty> omg elvish_sovereign is here!
20100604 21:38:45< elvish_sovereign> omg wow
20100604 21:38:50< Valkier> He is!?
20100604 21:38:53< Valkier> I love that guy!
20100604 21:39:28< PetePorty> elvish_sovereign, how you've been!? been so long since we met last time!
20100604 21:39:38< PetePorty> what have you been up to?
20100604 21:39:49< elvish_sovereign> nothing really
20100604 21:39:54< PetePorty> oh...
20100604 21:39:57< PetePorty> cool
20100604 21:40:10< elvish_sovereign> Well, working on my campaign as usual.
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20100604 21:40:25< PetePorty> Un! hi
20100604 21:40:31< Unnheulu> Hi PetePorty...
20100604 21:40:32< elvish_sovereign> Hi Unnheulu
20100604 21:40:33< PetePorty> cool... I like campaigns
20100604 21:40:58< Unnheulu> PetePorty, the scripting in my game is awesome thanks for asking
20100604 21:41:07< PetePorty> cool
20100604 21:41:15< Unnheulu> Now for a unit I can have, for instance: hp: Game.Random(40,44)
20100604 21:41:20< PetePorty> I hated xmoto... really hard.
20100604 21:41:25< Unnheulu> A mixture of yaml and my parser
20100604 21:41:29< Unnheulu> PetePorty, you hate everything
20100604 21:41:35< PetePorty> no I don't
20100604 21:41:45< Unnheulu> Hiah elvish_sovereign
20100604 21:41:47< PetePorty> I like some stuff
20100604 21:41:53< PetePorty> I like wesnoth for instance...
20100604 21:41:57< Unnheulu> Like metatalking and criticism :P
20100604 21:42:03< PetePorty> I like girls too.... good food
20100604 21:42:18< shadowmaster> sigh
20100604 21:42:20 * Unnheulu doesn't mind thread necromancy, but finds meta-talking sooo annoying
20100604 21:42:21< elvish_sovereign> I like you guys
20100604 21:42:22< PetePorty> I like.... 
20100604 21:42:28< PetePorty> nope, I think that's it
20100604 21:42:36< Unnheulu> It's what's basically killed the xmoto forums
20100604 21:42:38< shadowmaster> PetePorty: aren't you 15 or something?
20100604 21:42:49< PetePorty> I am
20100604 21:42:52< PetePorty> why?
20100604 21:43:05< shadowmaster> nothing
20100604 21:43:07< elvish_sovereign> I'm 15 as well.
20100604 21:43:09< PetePorty> Im 16 in... 5 days!
20100604 21:43:12< Unnheulu> Aww
20100604 21:43:15< Unnheulu> I'm the youngest here
20100604 21:43:22< elvish_sovereign> Nope
20100604 21:43:28< Unnheulu> I'm 14 ;P
20100604 21:43:35< elvish_sovereign> Oh, right
20100604 21:43:39< PetePorty> well, shadowmaster sounds like he's about 10...
20100604 21:43:43< PetePorty> :)
20100604 21:43:48< Unnheulu> Anyways, I'm busy restructuring my code
20100604 21:43:52< shadowmaster> PetePorty: you want me to fix it?
20100604 21:44:00< PetePorty> hey Un, what's meta-talking
20100604 21:44:05< PetePorty> nah, thx shadowmaster 
20100604 21:44:12< Unnheulu> Previously the Game.Random(x,y) would only be called on game run, I want it to be whenever the action is called
20100604 21:44:16< Unnheulu> Bad work on my part
20100604 21:44:22< Unnheulu> PetePorty, when people are like:
20100604 21:44:34< Unnheulu> Oi, that's what I said
20100604 21:44:35< Unnheulu> Sorry
20100604 21:44:38< Unnheulu> Don't worry
20100604 21:44:51< PetePorty> uhhh...
20100604 21:44:54< PetePorty> ok...
20100604 21:44:55< Unnheulu> PetePorty, what hulavuta and another member of the channel does a lot
20100604 21:44:57< PetePorty> cool!
20100604 21:45:12< shadowmaster> PetePorty: you sound like the average chilean teenager who likes to pretend to be older when they are still both sexually and mentally immature
20100604 21:45:14< Unnheulu> He knows who he is :)
20100604 21:45:15< elvish_sovereign> Unnheulu: are you refering to me?
20100604 21:45:18< shadowmaster> that's the truth, hence my question
20100604 21:45:19< shadowmaster> ;)
20100604 21:45:28< Unnheulu> elvish_sovereign, I refuse to comment
20100604 21:45:32< PetePorty> shadowmaster, I agree
20100604 21:45:37< Unnheulu> shadowmaster, that sums up teenagers most places...
20100604 21:45:43< shadowmaster> and that's bad
20100604 21:45:49< PetePorty> no it's not
20100604 21:45:53< shadowmaster> yes it is
20100604 21:45:56< PetePorty> nope
20100604 21:46:00< shadowmaster> because it only emphasizes your immaturity
20100604 21:46:15< PetePorty> nothing wrong with being immature
20100604 21:46:25 * Unnheulu buries his face in his code; incase shadowmaster picks on him next :)
20100604 21:46:29< shadowmaster> not if you are pretending to be the inverse
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20100604 21:46:44< PetePorty> I am not, I've always said I am immature
20100604 21:46:53< Unnheulu> Wait, pretending to be immature makes you mature, and pretending your mature makes you immature?
20100604 21:46:58< Unnheulu> Or am I missing something here?
20100604 21:47:12< PetePorty> ummm... dunno
20100604 21:47:19< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: the first one demonstrates that your applications of logic tend to be broken most of the time
20100604 21:47:36< shadowmaster> http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/YouFailLogicForever
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20100604 21:48:34< Unnheulu> shadowmaster, ignoring my pms, can you tell me what invalid argument I had against windows 7 please?
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20100604 21:48:50< PetePorty> tell me what you want, what you really really want!
20100604 21:48:53< shadowmaster> the compatibility mode thing
20100604 21:49:06< shadowmaster> I could run application from the 95 era without it
20100604 21:49:10< Unnheulu> I'm talking from experience
20100604 21:49:24< shadowmaster> since Windows XP and later have their own builtin compatibility database
20100604 21:49:31< shadowmaster> except most people don't know about it because they don't care
20100604 21:49:33< Unnheulu> When we installed windows, I had the job of installing all the games and software again
20100604 21:49:48< Unnheulu> Half the games worked, so half needed compatibility
20100604 21:50:00< shadowmaster> they must have been not popular enough
20100604 21:50:01< Unnheulu> Of those which needed compatibility, maybe a third actually installed
20100604 21:50:16< Unnheulu> Exactly...a game wh
20100604 21:50:17 * Gambit has never had issues installing older things
20100604 21:50:26< Unnheulu> *will only be compatible if its popular
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20100604 21:50:30< Unnheulu> That affects me a lot
20100604 21:50:37< Gambit> Jedi Knight Dark Forces still runs on vista!!
20100604 21:50:38< shadowmaster> you have the power to fix that
20100604 21:50:44< Gambit> !!
20100604 21:50:57< shadowmaster> you realize that running games on WINE is not any better than running them on 7 with compatibility mode?
20100604 21:51:04< shadowmaster> in most cases
20100604 21:51:12< PetePorty> well.... generaly good games become popular sooner or later...so... only popular (good) games are worth it right?
20100604 21:51:22< shadowmaster> especially if you are stuck with an older 32-bit Mesa on a amd64/em64t sstem
20100604 21:51:41< Unnheulu> But, linux isn't intended by the game manufacturers for gaming on
20100604 21:51:47< PetePorty> shit, that reminds me I have to do something on the linux....
20100604 21:51:54< Gambit> the linux
20100604 21:51:54< PetePorty> meh... I'll do it later.
20100604 21:51:56< shadowmaster> indeed, Unnheulu , so why are you using it? :P
20100604 21:51:58< Unnheulu> (I refuse to comment on its own developers, as I would probably get corrected)
20100604 21:52:27< Unnheulu> Because nowadays the only windows games worth playing are stronghold series and civilisation iv
20100604 21:52:28< PetePorty> tes Gambit, the linux
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20100604 21:52:40< Gambit> lies
20100604 21:52:42< PetePorty> I have the crap and the linux.
20100604 21:52:54< Gambit> PetePorty: Oh. 
20100604 21:52:59< shadowmaster> Pete owns the only existing copy of teh Linux
20100604 21:52:59< Gambit> Have you ever used windows anywhere elsE?
20100604 21:53:03< Gambit> Or you just don't have it at home?
20100604 21:53:06< shadowmaster> hence it's "the Linux"
20100604 21:53:19< PetePorty> yep
20100604 21:53:28< Gambit> PetePorty: I'm amazing you have a mac.
20100604 21:53:32< Gambit> *amazed
20100604 21:53:35< PetePorty> I don't
20100604 21:53:36< shadowmaster> it's a fun artifact of a common spanish/chilean colloquialism anyway
20100604 21:53:41< Gambit> okay why am I speaking like someone who's never spoken english before...
20100604 21:53:43< PetePorty> the crap is windows...
20100604 21:53:45< shadowmaster> "la Mónica", "el Juan", etc.
20100604 21:53:45< Unnheulu> shadowmaster, I need to read that site more
20100604 21:53:47< Gambit> PetePorty: WRONG!
20100604 21:53:56< Gambit> you BUTTMONKEY!
20100604 21:54:00< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: you do :)
20100604 21:54:26< shadowmaster> Gambit: you ... are trying to execute my joke?
20100604 21:54:27< Unnheulu> Can someone remind me, un/une is french, right?
20100604 21:54:30< PetePorty> Da Linax
20100604 21:54:49< PetePorty> yes Unnheulu 
20100604 21:54:53< Unnheulu> In which case there is no word for "the" that is widely used in welsh
20100604 21:54:55< Gambit> shadowmaster: try, judge, imprison, exectute, cremate, and bury.
20100604 21:55:02< Unnheulu> There is "y" and "yr", but those are hardly used
20100604 21:55:30< shadowmaster> Gambit: execute as in execve()
20100604 21:55:53< Gambit> well then no
20100604 21:55:56 * Unnheulu facepalms
20100604 21:56:01< Gambit> I'm trying to instanciate it.
20100604 21:56:02< Unnheulu> I can't do logical statements in yaml
20100604 21:56:11< PetePorty> ...
20100604 21:56:35< Gambit> shadowmaster: You can't execute classes!
20100604 21:56:40< PetePorty> Is it illegal if I sell linux?
20100604 21:56:46< Unnheulu> No?
20100604 21:56:47< shadowmaster> Gambit: yes, I can
20100604 21:57:05< PetePorty> it is not?
20100604 21:57:13< Unnheulu> No?
20100604 21:57:16< shadowmaster> after forking, executing the running program itself with a special argument that makes it go into a code path that instantiates a class
20100604 21:57:21< Gambit> No. You can execute methods of objects that are instances of classes.
20100604 21:57:22< shadowmaster> that's executing a class for you
20100604 21:57:30< PetePorty> cool, I'll go arround selling copies of linux then.
20100604 21:57:44< Unnheulu> But, whoever you sell it to can give it away for free
20100604 21:57:50< shadowmaster> for extra lulz the class' constructor could never return
20100604 21:57:53< Unnheulu> Example: RHEL & CentOS
20100604 21:58:07< Unnheulu> (It is centos I'm thinking of, right?)
20100604 21:58:11< shadowmaster> Gambit: see?
20100604 21:58:16< PetePorty> I0ve been giiving it away, but... if I can sell it, I should sell it.
20100604 21:58:24< Gambit> shadowmaster: If I say yes will you think I'm that much cooler?
20100604 21:58:40< Gambit> You lose me at "code path"
20100604 21:58:43< Gambit> *lost
20100604 21:58:47< Gambit> damn verbs
20100604 21:58:47< shadowmaster> Gambit: I'll think that you have accepted that you haven't thought of all the possibilities of programming
20100604 21:58:59 * Gambit blames latin class.
20100604 21:59:01< shadowmaster> and that you aren't as knowledgeable as you thought you are
20100604 21:59:16< Gambit> I know I'm not as knowledgeable as I think I am.
20100604 21:59:25< Unnheulu> One possibility is hiding something in your game that sends back all kinds of infomation about the player!
20100604 21:59:28< shadowmaster> then why contradict me above?
20100604 21:59:31< shadowmaster> you've just wasted our time
20100604 21:59:32< Gambit> But if I ever let myself find that out.... well I wouldn't want to be around to see the look on my face.
20100604 21:59:34< Unnheulu> You could look at their irc logs
20100604 21:59:41< Unnheulu> You could look at their bank statements
20100604 21:59:50< Unnheulu> shadowmaster, wesnoth should do that!
20100604 21:59:56< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: shut up
20100604 21:59:57< Unnheulu> And sell the players infomation
20100604 22:00:01< Unnheulu> Am I asking for a quiet here?
20100604 22:00:02< Unnheulu> Sorry
20100604 22:00:18< shadowmaster> no, you are asking for something worse than that
20100604 22:00:19< Unnheulu> I'll just be sure to do it in my own game instead then
20100604 22:00:34< shadowmaster> a slap in the face :(
20100604 22:00:46< Gambit> Building spyware into your video games...
20100604 22:00:46 * PetePorty slaps Unnheulu 
20100604 22:00:49< PetePorty> :D
20100604 22:00:51< Gambit> doesn't evony do that?
20100604 22:01:01< Gambit> Unnheulu: Are you going to hire pornstars for your advertisments?
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20100604 22:01:17< Unnheulu> Gambit, I won't advertise, I'll rely on luck like dave did^^
20100604 22:01:19< PetePorty> O.o
20100604 22:01:19< Gambit> Let me know, because I'll block your domain right now.
20100604 22:01:41< Gambit> Dave didn't rely on luck.
20100604 22:01:49< Gambit> He just asked Santa.
20100604 22:02:03< PetePorty> get Sasha Gray... plz
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20100604 22:02:15< Gambit> :\
20100604 22:02:20< PetePorty> ...
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20100604 22:02:27< PetePorty> who said that?
20100604 22:03:06-!- PetePorty is now known as PedroTheFRSNGuy
20100604 22:03:16< shadowmaster> Dave didn't rely on anything
20100604 22:03:19< PedroTheFRSNGuy> that damn PetePorty
20100604 22:03:22< shadowmaster> he just wanted to make a fun game
20100604 22:03:26< shadowmaster> everything else came after that
20100604 22:03:38< Unnheulu>  I just want to get loads of peoples personal info
20100604 22:03:48< Unnheulu> I guess everything else will come after that
20100604 22:03:54< PedroTheFRSNGuy> hey shadowmaster, isnt there a way to make the 0.1 screen smaller?
20100604 22:04:02< shadowmaster> yes, there is
20100604 22:04:12< PedroTheFRSNGuy> really?
20100604 22:04:19< PedroTheFRSNGuy> cool, could you tell me how?
20100604 22:04:20< shadowmaster> for that you'd need to modify a single line of code and recompile
20100604 22:04:29< PedroTheFRSNGuy> ummm....ok
20100604 22:04:29< Unnheulu> Hehehe
20100604 22:04:46< shadowmaster> the one that initializes a SDL video mode as 1024x768
20100604 22:04:52< Elvish_Pillager> wesbot: seen Espreon
20100604 22:04:52< wesbot> Elvish_Pillager: Queried user last spoke 14h 49m ago.  Espreon is currently here and on the channels #wesnoth-dev and #wesnoth-umc-dev.
20100604 22:04:52< shadowmaster> IIRC it's in game.cpp
20100604 22:05:28< PedroTheFRSNGuy> I don't see any game.cpp
20100604 22:05:33< Gambit> haha
20100604 22:05:38< Unnheulu> shadowmaster, in compiling 0.1, do I need to link any of those sdl libs to the compiler?
20100604 22:05:48< Gambit> I'm sorry. I shouldn't laugh. That would have been me 5 years ago.
20100604 22:05:51< Unnheulu> iirc when I was looking at sdl it said I had to do something like that for ttf and stuf
20100604 22:06:21< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: the Makefile should do it for you
20100604 22:06:33< Unnheulu> It has a makefile?
20100604 22:06:39< shadowmaster> yes
20100604 22:06:41< PedroTheFRSNGuy> there's game.cfg game.cfg.bak AND GAME.SFG.SWWP
20100604 22:06:45< Unnheulu> Last time I tried ./configure make make install didn't work...
20100604 22:06:59< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: it has a Makefile, not a configure script
20100604 22:07:01< Gambit> Get the source peter.
20100604 22:07:07< Unnheulu> Ahm
20100604 22:07:11< Unnheulu> So its just make make install?
20100604 22:07:19< shadowmaster> just make
20100604 22:07:22< shadowmaster> and run from the source dir
20100604 22:07:27< PedroTheFRSNGuy> uhhh.... where do I get the code?
20100604 22:07:34< Elvish_Pillager> wesbot: seen Aethaeryn
20100604 22:07:34< wesbot> Elvish_Pillager: The person with the nick Aethaeryn last spoke 6d 16h ago.  6d 15h ago was here and on the channels #wesnoth-dev and #wesnoth-umc-dev with the message: Quit: sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep
20100604 22:07:35< Unnheulu> ah
20100604 22:07:40< PedroTheFRSNGuy> source...
20100604 22:07:46< shadowmaster> Elvish_Pillager: you can do that in a query , you know
20100604 22:07:52< Tomsik> wesbot: seen god
20100604 22:07:52< wesbot> Tomsik: Sorry, I don't know of god.
20100604 22:08:02< Gambit> I lold.
20100604 22:08:04< Elvish_Pillager> shadowmaster: I tried that
20100604 22:08:21< shadowmaster> then you didn't do it right
20100604 22:08:24< Elvish_Pillager> okay
20100604 22:08:29< Gambit> You don't include the name in a query I think.
20100604 22:08:29< Elvish_Pillager> I figured
20100604 22:08:38< Gambit> That might have been the problem.
20100604 22:09:08< Elvish_Pillager> shadowmaster: is it possible for you to explain to me how to do it right?
20100604 22:09:22< Gambit>  /query wesbot seen doodlesnicker?
20100604 22:09:26< shadowmaster> /msg wesbot seen yoursocks
20100604 22:09:54< Unnheulu> how did you do that shadowmaster?
20100604 22:09:56< Gambit> I was faster.
20100604 22:09:57< wesbot> Gambit: Sometimes we are fast
20100604 22:09:58< Gambit> glee
20100604 22:10:03< Elvish_Pillager> neither of those got me anywhere
20100604 22:10:04< shadowmaster> I didn't do anything
20100604 22:10:13< Elvish_Pillager> /say /msg blahblah
20100604 22:10:23< Unnheulu> Aha
20100604 22:10:28< shadowmaster> no
20100604 22:10:38< shadowmaster> / /msg ....
20100604 22:10:39< Unnheulu> /msg blah
20100604 22:10:54< Unnheulu> The latter doesn't work
20100604 22:11:02< shadowmaster> you can escape / at the beginning of a line in irssi prepending "/ " to it
20100604 22:11:07< Unnheulu> That's some irssi only think I guess
20100604 22:11:10< Gambit> shadowmaster: What is the purpose of the catch for "was fast"?
20100604 22:11:11< wesbot> Gambit: Sometimes we are fast
20100604 22:11:12< Gambit> Do you know?
20100604 22:11:21< Gambit> Or is that something I'd have to ask Rh0nda?
20100604 22:11:22< Elvish_Pillager> unless something further comes to light, I declare the statement "you can do that in a query" false
20100604 22:11:24< shadowmaster> Gambit: some old inside joke
20100604 22:11:31< Gambit> ah okay.
20100604 22:11:34< shadowmaster> Gambit: IIRC it was from before my times
20100604 22:11:42< shadowmaster> I'd bet it has something to do with Wesnoth 1.2
20100604 22:11:59< Gambit> I was here for 1.2 :o (ish)
20100604 22:12:04< shadowmaster> that one's release cycle was rather ... complicated
20100604 22:12:39< Gambit> My favorite part was 1.2.6 playing with 1.2.7 and games would randomly break
20100604 22:12:46< shadowmaster> Elvish_Pillager: your client is broken then
20100604 22:12:51< Elvish_Pillager> that is possible
20100604 22:13:06< Elvish_Pillager> xchat is a pretty sucky IRC client
20100604 22:13:10< Gambit> just suddenly one turn it would decide to not let the next player start
20100604 22:13:13< shadowmaster> 16:10:15 -!- Irssi: Starting query in Freenode with wesbot
20100604 22:13:13< shadowmaster> 16:10:15 <shadowmaster> seen Elvish_Pillager
20100604 22:13:13< shadowmaster> 16:10:15 <wesbot> Queried user last spoke 2s ago.  Elvish_Pillager is currently on the channels #wesnoth and #wesnoth-dev.
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20100604 22:13:43< shadowmaster> Gambit: I was talking of the development versions preceding 1.2
20100604 22:13:47< shadowmaster> 1.1.x
20100604 22:14:09< Gambit> oh
20100604 22:14:24< shadowmaster> IIRC trunk was branched around 1.1.8
20100604 22:14:56< Unnheulu> >wesbot< seen Elvish_Pillager
20100604 22:14:57< Unnheulu> <wesbot> Queried user last spoke 1m 32s ago.  Elvish_Pillager is currently on the channels #wesnoth and #wesnoth-dev.
20100604 22:15:07< Unnheulu> Elvish_Pillager, I'm in xchat ;)
20100604 22:15:08< shadowmaster> and then there were multiple dev versions for 1.2 before it could get released, while development work continued on trunk for 1.3.0
20100604 22:15:11< Unnheulu> It works here
20100604 22:15:18< Elvish_Pillager> wesbot: seen people pestering me
20100604 22:16:10< shadowmaster> and according to my sources, backporting patches became a rather awkward practice
20100604 22:16:28< PedroTheFRSNGuy> I'll go play xmoto
20100604 22:16:43< shadowmaster> I'd guess that wesbot's "sometimes we are faster" line is inspired from the mess preceding 1.2
20100604 22:17:08< Unnheulu> shadowmaster, would you recommend a yaml/python hybrid for a game scripting?
20100604 22:17:15< Unnheulu> I notice that wesnoth stopped with python
20100604 22:17:18< shadowmaster> no idea
20100604 22:17:25< shadowmaster> I don't like Python
20100604 22:17:30< Unnheulu> Ok
20100604 22:17:37< shadowmaster> I don't care what esr says about it, I don't like it
20100604 22:17:46< Unnheulu> I was wondering about wesnoth's reasons for dumping it specifically
20100604 22:17:55< shadowmaster> security
20100604 22:18:22< shadowmaster> there were several security issues which prompted the removal of Python support from 1.5.x and 1.4
20100604 22:18:29< Unnheulu> I guess my game'll be too small to worry about security then I guess
20100604 22:18:38< Unnheulu> What security issues?
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20100604 22:19:13< Gambit> General lameyness
20100604 22:19:18< Gambit> Zerovirus: Did you get my pm?
20100604 22:19:18< shadowmaster> they were related to Python scripts in add-on possibly exploiting the client to get access to the  host's filesystem
20100604 22:19:23< Zerovirus> Yeah
20100604 22:19:25< shadowmaster> *add-ons
20100604 22:19:31< Gambit> Zerovirus: What to do?
20100604 22:19:33< Zerovirus> though I think it's because I didn't actually finish editing every unit
20100604 22:19:35< shadowmaster> at least.
20100604 22:19:39< Unnheulu> Can't you just disallow the os module?
20100604 22:19:40< Zerovirus> I didn't copy every unit, just the ones I changed a bit
20100604 22:19:50< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: no idea.
20100604 22:20:04< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: people with better knowledge of the issue than you or me handled it
20100604 22:20:09< Unnheulu> shadowmaster, so I should ask whoever was to blame?
20100604 22:20:13< Unnheulu> Who was to blame?
20100604 22:20:20< shadowmaster> there's nobody to be blamed for it
20100604 22:20:27< Gambit> Nobody is to be blamed.
20100604 22:20:29< Unnheulu> Ahm, you'd want to disallow importing anything
20100604 22:20:31< Gambit> It was a huge step forward.
20100604 22:20:40< Gambit> WML was allowed to handle the AI.
20100604 22:20:43< Zerovirus> What are you guys talking about?
20100604 22:20:44< Unnheulu> That's not fun, you can't access the maths module
20100604 22:20:55< shadowmaster> 16:20:04 <shadowmaster> Unnheulu: people with better knowledge of the issue than you or me handled it
20100604 22:21:02< shadowmaster> that means that all possibilities were considered
20100604 22:21:04< Gambit> Zerovirus: So I guess if it's okay then I'll send you what I fixed.
20100604 22:21:14< Gambit> Unnheulu: The discussion is in the bugs tracker.
20100604 22:21:23< Unnheulu> Gambit, linkage?
20100604 22:21:23< Zerovirus> I guess... I didn't see any defense files, though, so I don't think I'm missing anything
20100604 22:21:25< Gambit> I read it one day. It didn't make much sense to me though.
20100604 22:21:27< shadowmaster> not all Wesnoth developers are novice programmers *rolls eyes*
20100604 22:21:40< Zerovirus> Annnnyways what are you guys talking about
20100604 22:21:42< Gambit> Zerovirus: They're not files.
20100604 22:21:43< Gambit> They're tags
20100604 22:21:46< Gambit> inside the unit files
20100604 22:21:50< shadowmaster> Zerovirus: read the logs if you want to know
20100604 22:21:50< Gambit> the ones you had me paste in
20100604 22:21:50< Zerovirus> Oh.
20100604 22:21:52< Gambit> they're all gone
20100604 22:21:59< Zerovirus> ...They are? >.>
20100604 22:22:06< Gambit> sic
20100604 22:22:09< Zerovirus> Oh whoops
20100604 22:22:13< Zerovirus> I sent you the off version
20100604 22:22:19< Zerovirus> I was trying to do movetypes
20100604 22:22:25< Zerovirus> Learning is fun :D
20100604 22:22:44< Zerovirus> But apparently that one's the version with movetypes instead of the pasted tags...
20100604 22:22:53< Zerovirus> At least I understand tags and closed tags now.
20100604 22:22:55< Gambit> Unnheulu: part of it anyway: https://gna.org/bugs/?func=detailitem&item_id=13048
20100604 22:23:09< Unnheulu> Thanks
20100604 22:24:10< Unnheulu> That's what I thought the problem might be...
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20100604 22:24:49 * Gambit continues to gobble up large portions of wesnoth.org
20100604 22:25:24< shadowmaster> note that most talk about the Python issue occurred on IRC
20100604 22:25:28< shadowmaster> and not in a public channel
20100604 22:25:41< Unnheulu> Whyever not?
20100604 22:25:50< shadowmaster> you don't need to know
20100604 22:26:01< Unnheulu> Ok :/
20100604 22:26:05< Unnheulu> Any logs from then?
20100604 22:26:10< Gambit> Unnheulu: Well it wasn't fixed until 1.5.11 which means stable was (I guess) vulnerable until 1.6
20100604 22:26:19< Gambit> So you wouldn't have wanted people abusing it in 1.4.x
20100604 22:26:22< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: they may not be published
20100604 22:26:36 * Gambit wonders just how many private channels are in #wesnoth
20100604 22:26:40 * Gambit has only found 1
20100604 22:26:47< Unnheulu> shadowmaster, why not, it was eons ago?
20100604 22:26:53< shadowmaster> yes
20100604 22:27:00< Unnheulu> Does *anyone* actually use 1.5.x now?
20100604 22:27:06< shadowmaster> do you people have a bit of common sense or not?
20100604 22:27:10< Gambit> Unnheulu: They use 1.4!
20100604 22:27:31< Unnheulu> shadowmaster, d'ya really think I'd attack someones pc?
20100604 22:27:37< Unnheulu> Actually, stupid question, trust noone
20100604 22:28:03< shadowmaster> I guess your answer to my question is "no"
20100604 22:28:04< Gambit> (3:59:12 PM) Unnheulu: One possibility is hiding something in your game that sends back all kinds of infomation about the player!
20100604 22:28:15< Gambit> :D
20100604 22:28:27< Unnheulu> Hehe
20100604 22:28:34< Unnheulu> shadowmaster, how did you guess?
20100604 22:28:54< Unnheulu> Anyways, if you don't mind I'm searching for hidden wesnoth channels :)
20100604 22:28:56< shadowmaster> it was a rhetorical question
20100604 22:29:01< Gambit> Unnheulu: Plus they probably discussed other things in there.
20100604 22:29:03< shadowmaster> with a rhetorical answer
20100604 22:29:07< Gambit> Unnheulu: You can't get in the hidden channels.
20100604 22:29:08< Gambit> Silly.
20100604 22:29:10< shadowmaster> and you are an idiot
20100604 22:29:16< Elvish_Pillager> Unnheulu: /join #wesnoth-segfault
20100604 22:29:19< Unnheulu> Gambit, then I'll find the hidden channel easily
20100604 22:29:24< Gambit> They're not so much hidden as they have a lock on the door.
20100604 22:29:25< Unnheulu> Duuuh
20100604 22:29:30< Unnheulu> It'll be the one I can't get in
20100604 22:29:38< Unnheulu> I'm searching for the python one atm
20100604 22:29:41< Elvish_Pillager> Hint: It's #wesnoth-music
20100604 22:29:53< shadowmaster> sigh
20100604 22:30:26< Unnheulu> No hits yet, but I've only tried 5 channels
20100604 22:30:38-!- mode/#wesnoth [+o shadowmaster] by ChanServ
20100604 22:30:43< Unnheulu> shadowmaster, I notice wesnoth doesn't announce ingame except in the mp lobby there is a new release
20100604 22:31:02-!- mode/#wesnoth [+b Unnheulu*!*@*] by shadowmaster
20100604 22:31:07<@shadowmaster> known, discussed to death
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20100604 22:31:29< PedroTheFRSNGuy> haha....
20100604 22:31:33-!- mode/#wesnoth [-o shadowmaster] by shadowmaster
20100604 22:32:16< Gambit> Is #wesnoth-music really that fun?
20100604 22:32:20< Gambit> I've heard rumors...
20100604 22:32:20< Elvish_Pillager> Sometimes.
20100604 22:32:20< shadowmaster> no
20100604 22:32:24< Gambit> But it was empty when I went there.
20100604 22:32:30< Gambit> *practically empty
20100604 22:32:35< shadowmaster> it's Blueblze's vanity channel
20100604 22:32:38< shadowmaster> stolen from West
20100604 22:32:40< Elvish_Pillager> five people there right now, although at least one of them is stupid :p
20100604 22:33:00< PedroTheFRSNGuy> O.o
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20100604 22:33:25< Gambit> Hmm
20100604 22:33:31< Elvish_Pillager> actually come to think of it, at least three of them would have reason to guess I was referring to them :p
20100604 22:33:32< Gambit> I can't find that hidden channel I found the other day.
20100604 22:33:35< Gambit> Oh well.
20100604 22:33:40< Elvish_Pillager> Maybe it disappeared since then.
20100604 22:33:44< Elvish_Pillager> Because you found it.
20100604 22:33:45< Gambit> !
20100604 22:34:02< Elvish_Pillager> moved to a secret hideout in the Himalayas
20100604 22:34:03< Gambit> you really think?
20100604 22:34:09< PedroTheFRSNGuy> #wesnoth-hi
20100604 22:34:10< Elvish_Pillager> No.
20100604 22:34:54< Gambit> Oh now I remember what it was. Nevermind.
20100604 22:35:19< PedroTheFRSNGuy> #wesnoth-shadowmaster-funclub
20100604 22:36:12< PedroTheFRSNGuy> #meow?
20100604 22:37:10< PedroTheFRSNGuy> shadowmaster, you have a fun club channel!
20100604 22:37:15< Gambit> Really?
20100604 22:37:17< PedroTheFRSNGuy> with more than one person!
20100604 22:37:30< PedroTheFRSNGuy> yes
20100604 22:37:41< PedroTheFRSNGuy> :)
20100604 22:38:11< PedroTheFRSNGuy> so.....
20100604 22:38:48< Gambit> I think he's AFK.
20100604 22:38:54-!- mode/#wesnoth [+o shadowmaster] by ChanServ
20100604 22:38:56< Gambit> And he will strike us down with purple lightning breath when he gets back.
20100604 22:38:57< Gambit> Yep.
20100604 22:39:03< PedroTheFRSNGuy> lol
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20100604 22:39:21< Sasha> :)
20100604 22:39:30< Gambit> Sasha: Hi.
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20100604 22:39:41< Sasha> I'm totally not PeterPorty
20100604 22:39:46< Gambit> :\
20100604 22:39:51< Sasha> :D
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20100604 22:40:14<@shadowmaster> okay, enough nonsense
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20100604 22:40:50< Gambit> stupid client
20100604 22:40:55< Gambit> why'd you bring me back in here?
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20100604 22:46:51< Gambit> fk
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20100604 22:57:17< PetePorty> :) back
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20100604 23:04:01< PetePorty> hi Unnheulu 
20100604 23:04:04< Unnheulu> Hallo all!
20100604 23:04:08< Unnheulu> I@M BACK
20100604 23:04:12< PetePorty> Halo?
20100604 23:04:12< Unnheulu> *ahem*
20100604 23:04:12< elvish_sovereign> Hi
20100604 23:04:16< Unnheulu> I'm back,did you miss me?
20100604 23:04:20< PetePorty> nope
20100604 23:04:24< PetePorty> not at all
20100604 23:04:26< Unnheulu> PetePorty: Aww
20100604 23:04:34< PetePorty> I was banned...
20100604 23:04:36< Unnheulu> http://www.jonespenarth.me.uk/~ieuan/amazolia-14.png
20100604 23:05:03 * Unnheulu smirks
20100604 23:05:12< PetePorty> please, PLEASE change the mountines, they make my eyes cry.
20100604 23:05:13< Unnheulu> Character(UNITS["treant"]["id"],IMAGES[UNITS["treant"]["image"]],UNITS["treant"]["hp"],(UNITS["treant"]["attack"]["name"],UNITS["treant"]["attack"]["damage"]),UNITS["treant"]["speed"],position_in_stack=len(self.unit_list),position=[0,0])
20100604 23:05:17< Unnheulu> That's what I sued to have
20100604 23:05:18< Unnheulu> *used
20100604 23:05:26< shadowmaster> wtf is that?
20100604 23:05:28< Unnheulu> Now I have: Character(load_unit(UNITS["swordsman"], IMAGES))
20100604 23:05:42< Unnheulu> PetePorty: Does the second look easier to understand?
20100604 23:06:07< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: what language is that?
20100604 23:06:07< PetePorty> dunno, I fail at programming almost as much as I fail at spriting
20100604 23:06:27< Unnheulu> shadowmaster: python
20100604 23:06:30< Unnheulu> very ugly python
20100604 23:06:39< PetePorty> I get a feeling the answer is not 'english'
20100604 23:06:46< PetePorty> :)
20100604 23:06:58< Unnheulu> Nope
20100604 23:07:17< Unnheulu> it's the language voldemort speaks
20100604 23:07:18< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: thank you for proving that it's not difficult to write incomprehensible crap in Python
20100604 23:07:45< shadowmaster> because there are some hardcore fanboys who believe it's impossible
20100604 23:08:43< Unnheulu> It's easily possible
20100604 23:09:11< Unnheulu> That's only pulling values out of a dictionary to
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20100604 23:12:58< shadowmaster> anyone wants to play a game?
20100604 23:13:39< elvish_sovereign> I have time for a 1 vs 1
20100604 23:13:48< elvish_sovereign> though I'd prob lose against you
20100604 23:14:07< shadowmaster> I don't have much experience in MP
20100604 23:14:14< PetePorty> I play with you, and the winer pays 10 lukas to the loser
20100604 23:14:16< PetePorty> ok?
20100604 23:14:23< shadowmaster> no gambling
20100604 23:15:03< Unnheulu> PetePorty: dunno about chile, but you and es are too young in the uk
20100604 23:15:47< elvish_sovereign> too young for what?
20100604 23:16:07< Unnheulu> gambling
20100604 23:16:14< elvish_sovereign> ohhh
20100604 23:16:16< PetePorty> meh
20100604 23:18:19< PetePorty> so wanna play shadowmaster ?
20100604 23:18:39< shadowmaster> okay
20100604 23:18:48< elvish_sovereign> want to do 3p?
20100604 23:18:50< PetePorty> k, you make the game
20100604 23:18:57< PetePorty> sure, if he wants to
20100604 23:19:07< shadowmaster> aren't 3 player games unbalanced by nature
20100604 23:19:08< shadowmaster> ?
20100604 23:19:12< elvish_sovereign> right
20100604 23:19:14< Unnheulu> elvish_sovereign: were you in a good mood when replying to campaign only factions thread?
20100604 23:19:19< PetePorty> are they?
20100604 23:19:25< Unnheulu> n3t
20100604 23:19:27< elvish_sovereign> ill observe then
20100604 23:19:33< Unnheulu> me to
20100604 23:19:39< PetePorty> maybe 4 players?
20100604 23:19:55< Unnheulu> no time
20100604 23:20:03< elvish_sovereign> me neither
20100604 23:20:41< Unnheulu> Aww
20100604 23:20:44< Unnheulu> I just have 1.9svn
20100604 23:20:50< Unnheulu> And 1.4 in the repo :/
20100604 23:21:07< Unnheulu> rebooting
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20100604 23:21:56< PetePorty> anyone wanna see how shadowmaster crushes me?
20100604 23:22:58< shadowmaster> 17:14:07 <shadowmaster> I don't have much experience in MP
20100604 23:23:17< PetePorty> well. I suck anyway :)
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20100604 23:23:40< Unnheulu> aww crud
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20100604 23:23:44< Unnheulu> xfce crash again
20100604 23:23:46< Unnheulu> No panels
20100604 23:24:35< Espreon> For me, it's either KDE or Fluxbox.
20100604 23:24:54< PetePorty> hi Espreon 
20100604 23:25:03< Espreon> Hello.
20100604 23:25:47< Unnheulu> shadowmaster, what's the game called?
20100604 23:26:00< shadowmaster> just look for PeterPorty or me
20100604 23:26:04< Unnheulu> Found it
20100604 23:26:12< Unnheulu> Couldn't find from shadowmaster
20100604 23:26:22< Unnheulu> I hate 1.8.0
20100604 23:26:23< elvish_sovereign> yeah its PeterPorty's Game
20100604 23:26:31< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: ah well, I have 1.8.2+svn
20100604 23:26:34< shadowmaster> :P
20100604 23:26:39< Unnheulu> But, cause I have 1.9 pre-compiled I don't see the point
20100604 23:26:40< elvish_sovereign> lucky
20100604 23:26:46< Unnheulu> shadowmaster, omgosh how do you get it???
20100604 23:26:51< Unnheulu> Is it a branch?
20100604 23:26:52< Gambit> Unnheulu: SVN
20100604 23:28:34< shadowmaster> yes, 1.8 branch
20100604 23:28:53< shadowmaster> that's where released version originate from, anyway
20100604 23:29:03< shadowmaster> and since it's a stable branch it shouldn't cause OOS
20100604 23:29:27< elvish_sovereign> I need to learn how to compile stuff
20100604 23:29:42 * Espreon hopes that elvish_sovereign isn't on Windows.
20100604 23:29:52< elvish_sovereign> Nope
20100604 23:29:55< elvish_sovereign> on Mac
20100604 23:30:09< elvish_sovereign> I know Gambit's going to hate
20100604 23:30:10< elvish_sovereign> e
20100604 23:30:12< elvish_sovereign> me
20100604 23:30:24< Gambit> I don't hate mac users.
20100604 23:30:31< Espreon> Meh, IDK how easy it is to set up a build environment on Mac OS X.
20100604 23:30:50< sevis> Is this PeterPorty's game? You guys mind another observer?
20100604 23:30:55< shadowmaster> no
20100604 23:30:56< Gambit> I pity their lack of foresight. I envy all their disposable income.
20100604 23:30:56< Espreon> I know that on Windows, doing so is a pain in the ass.
20100604 23:31:00< shadowmaster> not me at least
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20100604 23:31:45< shadowmaster> [17:31:41] <Shadow_Master> EIGHTBALL will I win my current Wesnoth game?
20100604 23:31:47< shadowmaster> [17:31:41] *GameServ* We won't go there
20100604 23:31:52< shadowmaster> :/
20100604 23:32:10< Gambit> PetePorty: You should totally make some sort of bet on the outcome of this game.
20100604 23:32:12< Espreon> ...
20100604 23:32:22< PetePorty> O:O
20100604 23:32:26< PetePorty> my wesnoth crashewd
20100604 23:32:31< PetePorty> can you wait for me?
20100604 23:32:40< shadowmaster> yes
20100604 23:32:47< elvish_sovereign> yes
20100604 23:32:50< PetePorty> thanks
20100604 23:33:00< elvish_sovereign> lol I have control over your side now
20100604 23:33:01< Espreon> Sigh... 1.8 sucks...
20100604 23:33:14< Espreon> ... stupud shroud bug...
20100604 23:33:19< Espreon> ... stupid GUI1.
20100604 23:33:26< PetePorty> o, I'm back
20100604 23:33:29< Gambit> 1.8 doesn't have GUI2?
20100604 23:33:33< Gambit> I thought that was it's major feature?
20100604 23:33:37 * Gambit confused
20100604 23:33:42< Espreon> Gambit: Uh, it's not complete.
20100604 23:33:51< Espreon> GUI1 is still used in many areas.
20100604 23:33:57< Gambit> Ah.
20100604 23:34:03< Gambit> *its
20100604 23:34:05< Gambit> grrr
20100604 23:34:11< Espreon> ... and since GUI1's Unicode support sucks... the Shavian transliteration is useless.
20100604 23:34:24< Espreon> Stupid neologisms going around... confusing everyone.
20100604 23:34:33< Espreon> In my day, we used "his".
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20100604 23:35:04< Unnheulu> Ugh
20100604 23:35:05< Espreon> Also, I'm pretty sure that GUI1's RtL support sucks.
20100604 23:35:08< Unnheulu> Interwebs is annoying me now
20100604 23:35:24< Unnheulu> I've reset the router 4 or 5 times now
20100604 23:36:07< shadowmaster> Espreon: that's precisely why GUI2 was started
20100604 23:36:23< shadowmaster> well, I mean, that's precisely why the SDL_ttf to PAngo transition was started
20100604 23:40:53< Espreon> Ah, I see.
20100604 23:41:08< Unnheulu> And not at all due to the general ugliness of sdl_ttf?
20100604 23:42:00< Unnheulu> Cool...
20100604 23:42:04< Unnheulu> SDL uses OpenGL
20100604 23:42:08< Unnheulu> Pygame uses SDL
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20100604 23:42:19< Unnheulu> My game uses my gui made in pygame
20100604 23:42:21< shadowmaster> SDL *can* use OpenGL
20100604 23:42:23< shadowmaster> it doesn't necessarily use it
20100604 23:42:26< Unnheulu> Awesome =]
20100604 23:42:31< Unnheulu> Oh...boooring ;P
20100604 23:42:40< Unnheulu> Like pygame can use pyopengl then I guess
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20100604 23:56:37< shadowmaster> PetePorty: I expected a bit more of a challenge
20100604 23:56:40< PetePorty> I now officially hate you
20100604 23:56:45< shadowmaster> since IIRC you play more often than me
20100604 23:56:52< PetePorty> but... I've always said I suck...
20100604 23:56:58< shadowmaster> so I have :(
20100604 23:57:13< PetePorty> yeah, but u underestimate yourself
20100604 23:57:32 * Espreon rolls his eyes
20100604 23:57:33< shadowmaster> either that or the RNG favored me
20100604 23:57:41< shadowmaster> which would be odd
20100604 23:57:48< PetePorty> nah, I never blame the RNG
20100604 23:57:55< shadowmaster> since it usually plays against me in singleplayer
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20100604 23:58:17< PetePorty> maybe you hacked the game...
20100604 23:58:22< PetePorty> -.-
20100604 23:58:26< PetePorty> :D
20100604 23:58:29< shadowmaster> nah
20100604 23:58:36< shadowmaster> the random numbers are generated on the server now
20100604 23:59:00< PetePorty> can I ask for a rematch where I have 800 gold and you have 25?
20100604 23:59:18< shadowmaster> that'd be ridiculous
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20100604 23:59:28< PetePorty> no it wouldn't
20100604 23:59:35< PetePorty> it would make it fair....
20100604 23:59:36< shadowmaster> talk about unbalanced matches
20100604 23:59:38< PetePorty> :D
20100604 23:59:59< PetePorty> but... but you are THE shadowmaster
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