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20100609 00:09:44< SpoOkyMagician> damn... i didn't even add any _ marks in my trade menu item... sad...
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20100609 00:11:19< PetePorty> back, finished with my physics thingy
20100609 00:11:53< SpoOkyMagician> wb
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20100609 00:15:50< SpoOkyMagician> meh, i gotta be more careful with string concatenating...
20100609 00:16:19< Espreon> No, you just avoid it when possible.
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20100609 00:17:22< Espreon> SpoOkyMagician: Seriously, string concatenation is evil.
20100609 00:17:31< SpoOkyMagician> well, im trying to leave the pango strings out of the translatable strings
20100609 00:17:59< SpoOkyMagician> or are they ignored?
20100609 00:18:31< Espreon> Well, for things such as italics, you should leave the Pango markup in the translatable strings.
20100609 00:18:49< SpoOkyMagician> what about color?
20100609 00:18:59< Espreon> Meh, leave it out.
20100609 00:19:10< SpoOkyMagician> good... then im doing it right... lol
20100609 00:19:51< Espreon> Things like this: "<markup>"+_"mu"+"</markup" are fine.
20100609 00:20:25< Espreon> I thought that you were doing something truly evil, such as _ "OMFG, it's a $mu|!"
20100609 00:20:45< SpoOkyMagician> lemme show you what i got... tell me if it's right...
20100609 00:20:53< Espreon> ... or _ "OMFG, I see $mu killing Francine!"
20100609 00:21:00< Espreon> The latter is especially evil.
20100609 00:21:18< SpoOkyMagician> hm... i am using variables though however... bad?
20100609 00:21:21< SpoOkyMagician> is that bad *
20100609 00:21:42< Espreon> Uh, yeah.
20100609 00:22:05< SpoOkyMagician> any work arounds for it?
20100609 00:22:20< Espreon> Create strings for every situation possible, if possible.
20100609 00:22:39< Espreon> ... and just use [if] and [then] or [case]
20100609 00:22:47< Espreon> *[switch]?
20100609 00:23:16< SpoOkyMagician> well, it does show but it's not translated correct? (using variables)
20100609 00:23:17< Espreon> Yeah, [switch].
20100609 00:23:25< Espreon> It depends on the language.
20100609 00:23:31< SpoOkyMagician> i see
20100609 00:23:38< Espreon> Some languages have highly advanced declension/inflection/whatever systems.
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20100609 00:23:54< shadowmaster> s/advanced/complicated/
20100609 00:23:59< Espreon> Such as many Slavic languages and probably all Uralic languages.
20100609 00:24:07< Espreon> shadowmaster: He knows what I mean.
20100609 00:24:29< SpoOkyMagician> well for example... (makes a pastebin... one moment)
20100609 00:25:03< shadowmaster> Espreon: yes, but it was for you, not him
20100609 00:25:05< SpoOkyMagician> http://www.pastebin.org/319779
20100609 00:25:13< SpoOkyMagician> how would i write this then?
20100609 00:25:30< SpoOkyMagician> using variables
20100609 00:25:32< Espreon> shadowmaster: I don't care.
20100609 00:26:39< shadowmaster> Espreon: I know you don't
20100609 00:26:43< shadowmaster> it's our mantra
20100609 00:27:04< shadowmaster> :D
20100609 00:27:41< Espreon> SpoOkyMagician: Meh, that may run into some problems.
20100609 00:27:50< Espreon> IDK.
20100609 00:28:18< SpoOkyMagician> well, it shows... (in default language) but i never dealt with translations so no clue how it would turn out
20100609 00:28:42< SpoOkyMagician> (in a different language)
20100609 00:29:00< Espreon> You should be fine, but, again, I am not sure.
20100609 00:29:07 * Espreon disappears...
20100609 00:31:25< SpoOkyMagician> meh, i'll just leave it for now. thanks anyway Espreon. (wherever you are... lol... jk)
20100609 00:46:14< SpoOkyMagician> god.... 2685 lines for specials macro...
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20100609 01:00:58< SpoOkyMagician> um, did I miss something here or does the [text_input] attribute "max_chars" not work properly? (i set it to 3 and i could type more than 3 characters...)
20100609 01:01:54< SpoOkyMagician> (or does it not actually limit how many you can type but only counts the first three characters?)
20100609 01:02:26< shadowmaster> there doesn't seem to exist any attribute like that
20100609 01:02:39< SpoOkyMagician> the wiki says it...
20100609 01:03:00< SpoOkyMagician> http://wiki.wesnoth.org/InterfaceActionsWML#.5Bmessage.5D
20100609 01:03:07< shadowmaster> sadly, I'd not be surprised if the wiki is mistaken
20100609 01:03:19< SpoOkyMagician> i see...
20100609 01:03:46< shadowmaster> it's max_length
20100609 01:03:51< shadowmaster> not max_chars
20100609 01:03:53< SpoOkyMagician> ah
20100609 01:03:57< SpoOkyMagician> outdated then
20100609 01:03:59< SpoOkyMagician> ty
20100609 01:04:29< shadowmaster> I guess I'll have to be the one to use this MediaWiki crap to fix that mistake
20100609 01:04:51< SpoOkyMagician> heh
20100609 01:06:23< SpoOkyMagician> yea that fixed it. thanks shadowmaster
20100609 01:07:14< shadowmaster> no problem
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20100609 01:45:11< ancestral> For anyone on who uses Ascension or has helpful comments/feedback? Now's the time to chime in, as I'm making changes to it
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20100609 02:56:52< Hulavuta> Hello Customers
20100609 02:57:18 * Gambit is not buying it.
20100609 02:57:37< Hulavuta> Anyone want to play a match?
20100609 02:57:44< shadowmaster> probably
20100609 02:57:56< ancestral> Good answer! Good answer!
20100609 02:58:00< ancestral> Survey says…
20100609 02:58:16< shadowmaster> ancestral: <3
20100609 02:58:18< Hulavuta> Good, I'll make a room. How many people want to play?
20100609 02:58:28< shadowmaster> 85.3222% of statistics are made up on the spt
20100609 02:58:35< shadowmaster> spot, even
20100609 02:58:40< Hulavuta> actually it's 85.4678
20100609 02:58:51< Gambit> shadowmaster: I dig the retro avatar.
20100609 02:58:51< shadowmaster> no, it isn't
20100609 02:58:51< ancestral> 65% of people actually know that
20100609 02:59:00< shadowmaster> Gambit: what?
20100609 02:59:01< Hulavuta> shadowmaster and or acenstral, want to play?
20100609 02:59:05< ancestral> Retro, as in oots?
20100609 02:59:27< Gambit> retro as in he's worn it before
20100609 02:59:29< Gambit> a long time ago
20100609 02:59:31< Gambit> in a galaxy
20100609 02:59:33< Gambit> far far away
20100609 02:59:44< shadowmaster> STAR WARS
20100609 02:59:55< shadowmaster> EPISODE ZEROTH: A FAILED HOPE
20100609 03:00:12< shadowmaster> end-of-joke
20100609 03:00:40< shadowmaster> *camera shifts to a random spaceship*
20100609 03:01:06< Hulavuta> (8:59:01 PM) Hulavuta: shadowmaster and or acenstral, want to play?
20100609 03:01:24< shikadibot> IT'S A TRAP
20100609 03:01:35< shadowmaster> maybe
20100609 03:01:39< shadowmaster> perhaps
20100609 03:01:44< shadowmaster> not sure
20100609 03:02:05< shadowmaster> you'll then be bragging around about how you beat me in a MP match like that chilean forumer did
20100609 03:02:26< shadowmaster> since there's no such a thing like a Wesnoth dev who can't play MP. Everyone knows that
20100609 03:02:40< shadowmaster> also, I don't see acenstral here
20100609 03:02:42< Hulavuta> Hahaha, if you play against me, I'll never beat anyone...
20100609 03:02:53< Hulavuta> I mean ancestral...gee whiz
20100609 03:03:02< shadowmaster> tab-completion is your friend
20100609 03:03:27< shadowmaster> (learn to use it quickly, before I ban you for spelling my username as shadow)
20100609 03:03:42< Hulavuta> What's tab-completion?
20100609 03:03:44< shadowmaster> finally, I need to do something so I'll be afk for a few minutes
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20100609 03:39:22-!- Topic set by Ivanovic [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] [Wed Jun  2 11:28:17 2010]
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20100609 03:39:22[ drry            ] [ Ivanovic    ] [ noy        ] [ Vetinari      ] 
20100609 03:39:22[ elias           ] [ John_R      ] [ PetePorty  ] [ wesbot        ] 
20100609 03:39:22[ Elvish_Pillager ] [ KamusHadenes] [ Queenie    ] [ Xjs|moonshine ] 
20100609 03:39:22[ elvish_sovereign] [ Kivi        ] [ Rhonda     ] 
20100609 03:39:22[ erl             ] [ knotwork_   ] [ rrix       ] 
20100609 03:39:22[ Espreon         ] [ koan        ] [ Sacho      ] 
20100609 03:39:22-!- Irssi: #wesnoth: Total of 61 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 61 normal]
20100609 03:39:22-!- Home page for #wesnoth: http://www.wesnoth.org
20100609 03:39:23< ancestral> knotwork_:  Any suggestions?
20100609 03:39:26-!- Channel #wesnoth created Sun Nov 26 07:42:43 2006
20100609 03:39:28< PetePorty> Espreon, hola huevón!
20100609 03:39:42< Blueblaze> Espreon: tuvo tuvo tuvo
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20100609 03:40:07 * Espreon glares at PetePorty.
20100609 03:40:12< PetePorty> ...
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20100609 03:40:25 * Espreon loves «coger»
20100609 03:40:28< Espreon> Such a useful word.
20100609 03:40:33< knotwork_> ancestral: nothing yet, but rather than blindly re-clone I'd prefer to know what'd change if I did re-clone
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20100609 03:40:47< Gambit> elvish_sovereign: Stuff is bacdk.
20100609 03:40:49< Gambit> *back
20100609 03:41:19< Gambit> if a little sluggish...
20100609 03:41:26< knotwork_> ancestral: currently I dont use it by default for all units, just for a few units whose destiny might include the higher levels
20100609 03:41:33< ancestral> Sure :)
20100609 03:41:43< elvish_sovereign> Gambit: great
20100609 03:42:01< PetePorty> Gambit... you seem to like FF
20100609 03:42:13< Espreon> PetePorty: Pedrito, how do you react to that statement?
20100609 03:42:27< PetePorty> which one?
20100609 03:42:32< Espreon> 03:40  * Espreon loves «coger»
20100609 03:42:32< Espreon> 03:40 < Espreon> Such a useful word.
20100609 03:42:36< PetePorty> that you like to fuck?
20100609 03:42:37< PetePorty> oh...
20100609 03:42:43< Gambit> :o
20100609 03:42:43< PetePorty> sure, everyone does
20100609 03:43:24< Espreon> PetePorty: No! I, a speaker of *Spanish*, would not use such a naughty word!
20100609 03:43:30< Espreon> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/coger
20100609 03:43:53< PetePorty> to have sex, to fuck
20100609 03:44:01< PetePorty> that's what it says in there
20100609 03:44:19< Espreon> I only acknowledge the definitions next to (Spain)
20100609 03:44:22< Espreon> LOL.
20100609 03:45:02< PetePorty> Actually, it means the same in spain
20100609 03:45:08< Espreon> But, those!
20100609 03:45:13< PetePorty> in the synonims it says that
20100609 03:45:26< Espreon> ... and we were actually taught that in Spanish class.
20100609 03:45:33< Espreon> («coger»)
20100609 03:45:34< PetePorty> cool
20100609 03:45:52< shadowmaster> #wesnoth-umc-dev tends to have a more mature audience where it's fine to talk about linguistics involving family unfriendly words
20100609 03:46:01< shadowmaster> #wesnoth, however, is filled with kids
20100609 03:46:14< Espreon> shadowmaster: But, I, a speaker of *Spanish* do not recognize such naughty definitions.
20100609 03:46:24< PetePorty> yeah... me either
20100609 03:46:30< Espreon> No hablo chileano.
20100609 03:46:31< PetePorty> we don't use that here in Chile.
20100609 03:46:37< shadowmaster> admittedly, #wesnoth-umc-dev will need to split into ##shadowm if the Wesnoth-UMC-Dev project grows large enough
20100609 03:46:40< PetePorty> it is used in Spain...
20100609 03:47:01< Espreon> Hablo castellano malo.
20100609 03:47:09< shadowmaster> mal castellano
20100609 03:47:11< PetePorty> yes you do
20100609 03:47:20< shadowmaster> also, fuck whoever came up with the "castellano" thing
20100609 03:47:26< PetePorty> lol
20100609 03:47:29< shadowmaster> it's español, period
20100609 03:47:39< Espreon> NnnnnnnO!
20100609 03:47:39< shadowmaster> the ISO says so
20100609 03:47:40< Espreon> LOL.
20100609 03:47:41< PetePorty> It is the languge spoken in Castilla...
20100609 03:47:44< shadowmaster> in the ISO I trust
20100609 03:47:52 * Espreon is just trollin'
20100609 03:48:04< Espreon> *"trollin'"
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20100609 03:48:10< PetePorty> Castellano... We speak Chileano in here though
20100609 03:48:21 * Espreon calls it «español» IRL.
20100609 03:48:37< Espreon> I do find «castellano» to be absurd.
20100609 03:48:38< shadowmaster> more like Español de Chile with over nine thousand anglicisms
20100609 03:48:42 * PetePorty calls it the REAL languge
20100609 03:48:51< PetePorty> lol
20100609 03:49:00< Espreon> shadowmaster: Don't you dare call them Anglicisms... use the real term for Modern English. ;)
20100609 03:49:08< shadowmaster> what?
20100609 03:49:13< shadowmaster> no modern english
20100609 03:49:20< Espreon> The acronym.
20100609 03:49:25< shadowmaster> uhhh... Espreon enlighten me
20100609 03:49:26< Espreon> ... that I conjured.
20100609 03:49:29< shadowmaster> please
20100609 03:49:58< Espreon> shadowmaster: Remember when I called Modern English a really long name?
20100609 03:50:04< PetePorty> in two hours and ten minutes it will be my birthday!
20100609 03:50:07< knotwork_> are smallfoot and elusivefoot cost-balanced or would changing a unit from one to the other tend to also require changing the unit's cost?
20100609 03:50:09 * Espreon can't sift through the logs
20100609 03:50:19< Espreon> PetePorty: Cool story, Pedrito!
20100609 03:50:33< Gambit> 9 already.
20100609 03:50:36< shadowmaster> knotwork_: it's not really a cost thing
20100609 03:50:42< PetePorty> Espreon, I'm expecting a gift
20100609 03:50:48< Gambit> The years just fly by.
20100609 03:50:50< shadowmaster> knotwork_: spearmen use smallfoot while footpads use elusivefoot. guess which one is the cheaper
20100609 03:50:59< Hulavuta> Leaving now
20100609 03:51:03< Hulavuta> Going to watch TV or something
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20100609 03:51:07< shadowmaster> however, their HP and attack possibilities vary
20100609 03:51:09< Espreon> shadowmaster: You should know me well enough that I consider Modern English to be a soulless, Frenchified abomination that lost its soul that just happens to be THE lingua franca, right?
20100609 03:51:26< shadowmaster> Espreon: er...let's not get into that
20100609 03:51:38< knotwork_> I have made initial sketch of "alpine" (all-terrain) troops by simply changing my "riflemen" from smallfoot to elusivefoot
20100609 03:51:49< PetePorty> Le Francais... La lengue de l'amour
20100609 03:51:55< Espreon> PetePorty: No.
20100609 03:51:59< PetePorty> :D
20100609 03:52:04< shadowmaster> http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EverythingSoundsSexierInFrench
20100609 03:52:08< Espreon> It beeth the language... of supreme... immorality.
20100609 03:52:10< shadowmaster> Espreon: yes
20100609 03:52:15< shadowmaster> Espreon: NO!
20100609 03:52:17< Espreon> It beeth the language... of supreme... immorality.
20100609 03:52:29< shadowmaster> Espreon: see the linked article
20100609 03:52:38< knotwork_> in Freeciv for vast units of them alpine troops do take more resources to produce and I dont think they obsolete riflemen so you can get both
20100609 03:52:42< shadowmaster> while it's not completely true, I admit that french has a certain thing that English or Spanish don't have
20100609 03:52:46< Espreon> So, Chilean = Spanish + many Frenchiesms that happen to carry Latin fetishry.
20100609 03:52:54< shadowmaster> other than the funny graphical accents, that is
20100609 03:52:56< Espreon> ... and Greek.
20100609 03:52:58< Espreon> shadowmaster: No.
20100609 03:53:03< Espreon> I'm not reading TVTropes.
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20100609 03:53:14< shadowmaster> Espreon: filthy lies
20100609 03:53:15< Espreon> ... till you read my favorite website... for fun.
20100609 03:53:24< shadowmaster> Espreon: you linked me to a tvtropes article
20100609 03:53:33< Gambit> "How to speak funny and alienate people with your funny speaking"
20100609 03:53:36< Espreon> That's because it was on a decent topic.
20100609 03:53:42< Gambit> *+.com
20100609 03:53:45< shadowmaster> Espreon: the above is on a decent topic too
20100609 03:53:53< Espreon> NO!
20100609 03:53:54< shadowmaster> ED? not sure the site can be considered decent to start with
20100609 03:54:16< Espreon> Uh, you need to read its wittier articles, such as the SSH article.
20100609 03:54:18< shadowmaster> just jjudging from the Wikipedia and TVTropes articles on it, I think I have enough
20100609 03:54:26< shadowmaster> ED, I mean
20100609 03:54:36< Gambit> shadowmaster: They make pills for it.
20100609 03:54:36< Espreon> shadowmaster: It even has an irssi article!
20100609 03:54:39< Espreon> No, seriously.
20100609 03:54:41< PetePorty> Je m'apelle Pete, Je suis un très bonne enfant
20100609 03:54:47< shadowmaster> Espreon: okay, you sold me on that
20100609 03:54:50< Espreon> PetePorty: Away with thee!
20100609 03:54:53 * Espreon smiles
20100609 03:55:01< Gambit> shadowmaster: But consult your doctor if you experience an erection lasting longer than 4 hours
20100609 03:55:15< shadowmaster> yeah
20100609 03:55:19< shadowmaster> except I don't have one
20100609 03:55:20< PetePorty> mine lasts all night girls!
20100609 03:55:22< PetePorty> ;D
20100609 03:55:26< Gambit> ...
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20100609 03:55:33< shadowmaster> A doctor I mean.
20100609 03:55:36< PetePorty> sorry, had to say it
20100609 03:55:41< PetePorty> lol
20100609 03:55:51< Gambit> shadowmaster: I lol'd.
20100609 03:55:51< knotwork_> maybe I should use elusivefoot movement but retain smallfoot resistances. that'd likely be worth an increase in cost
20100609 03:56:13< Espreon> shadowmaster: Pero, tu padre es médico.
20100609 03:56:31< Espreon> Screw Arabic-flavored Neo-Latin, regular is probably easier.
20100609 03:56:33< PetePorty> nah... my grandpa is
20100609 03:56:50< Espreon> shadowmaster: There's also a Perl article.
20100609 03:57:08< Espreon> ... and open source... and even esr!
20100609 03:57:11< PetePorty> Oh guys, I visited 4chan as you told me to!
20100609 03:57:20< shadowmaster> Espreon: uh
20100609 03:57:28< shadowmaster> Espreon: okay
20100609 03:57:29< Espreon> PetePorty: What?
20100609 03:57:40< PetePorty> ¿Qué?
20100609 03:57:41< Espreon> shadowmaster: Just read the irssi, SSH, and the Perl articles
20100609 03:57:44< Espreon> Please?
20100609 03:57:57< shadowmaster> I already read the irssi one
20100609 03:58:02< Espreon> Read the Perl one.
20100609 03:59:11< Espreon> PetePorty: Go back to /mu/ and resurrect some pearls from page ten.
20100609 03:59:35< PetePorty> umm... what's /mu/?
20100609 04:00:00< shadowmaster> asigh
20100609 04:00:12< Espreon> PetePorty: ... a board on 4chan...
20100609 04:00:24< PetePorty> umm...
20100609 04:00:38< PetePorty> no. I'm busy... in minecraft
20100609 04:00:43< Espreon> Whatever.
20100609 04:00:49< Espreon> shadowmaster: Did you read the Perl article yet?
20100609 04:00:54< shadowmaster> Espreon: please don't tell me that you are making PetePorty join Anonymous
20100609 04:01:05< Blueblaze> ftards
20100609 04:01:08< shadowmaster> because if you are, then I'll have to kick you in the face
20100609 04:01:11< Gambit> "In the five-minute interval between when VA Linux went public and when its share price dropped to zero, Eric Raymond penned Surprised by Wealth, in which he assured his geek no-longer-brethren that (a) being richer than Bill Gates wouldn't change him, and (b) if they were so gauche as to ask him for money, he would never speak to them again."
20100609 04:01:17< shadowmaster> or somewhere similarly painful
20100609 04:01:31< Gambit> He won't give us used tissues to sell on ebay either!
20100609 04:02:00< Espreon> shadowmaster: I'm too lazy to do that.
20100609 04:02:13< shadowmaster> Espreon: okay, good, carry on
20100609 04:02:20< Gambit> awww
20100609 04:02:20< Espreon> Honestly, he said that someone here told him to go to 4chan.
20100609 04:02:28 * Gambit wanted to see him get kicked in the face
20100609 04:02:37< Espreon> So, I told him to go back to /mu/, so that he can resurrect pearls from page ten.
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20100609 04:03:04< Gambit> PetePorty: 4chan will eat what is left of your brain.
20100609 04:03:21< shadowmaster> no
20100609 04:03:26< PetePorty> I went just once
20100609 04:03:27< shadowmaster> there's nothing left in his brain already
20100609 04:03:33 * Espreon never even went to 4chan.
20100609 04:03:36< PetePorty> shut up
20100609 04:03:40< Espreon> ... or any of the chans.
20100609 04:03:43 * Elvish_Pillager doesn
20100609 04:03:46< Gambit> And they will "hack" Sarah Palin's email address and then change the password so many times that the ISP realizes something is wrong and locks the account.
20100609 04:03:51< shadowmaster> ow, he took my comment seriously
20100609 04:03:53 * Elvish_Pillager doesn't know enough about that to know what it means by "any of the chans"
20100609 04:03:57< shadowmaster> I guess he's not ready for ED either then!
20100609 04:04:13< Espreon> PetePorty: Well, then thou art pathetic!
20100609 04:04:39< PetePorty> don't talk to me, I'm in minecraft... I won't answer
20100609 04:04:48< Gambit> minecraft is addictive.
20100609 04:04:55< Gambit> I need to get a paypal account.
20100609 04:05:10< Gambit> PetePorty: In the indev version they have crafting :o
20100609 04:05:25< PetePorty> huh?
20100609 04:05:26< Gambit> torches, and openable/closable doors, and furnaces.
20100609 04:05:38< PetePorty> but... I have to pay for that, right?
20100609 04:05:40< Gambit> But it's 9.95 euros.
20100609 04:05:45< Gambit> PetePorty: yeah
20100609 04:05:53< PetePorty> well, I don't have a credit card.
20100609 04:06:21< PetePorty> dude... do you know how the hell to talk in multiplayer?
20100609 04:06:31< Gambit> t
20100609 04:06:43 * Gambit dislikes multiplayer
20100609 04:07:06< PetePorty> thx
20100609 04:07:15< Gambit> multiplayer building games; you're just asking for some idiot to break stuff
20100609 04:09:50< Espreon> Gambit: AWESOME!
20100609 04:09:59 * Espreon high-fives Gambit.
20100609 04:10:28< shadowmaster> Espreon: according to Uncyclopedia, ED was created in France
20100609 04:10:37< Espreon> Lies...
20100609 04:10:52< Espreon> Uncyclopedia is a cesspool of unfunny bullshit!
20100609 04:10:56< shadowmaster> which means that...
20100609 04:11:50< Espreon> Also, Ленин created ED.
20100609 04:12:51 * Gambit likes the antigravity cat one :(
20100609 04:13:12< Gambit> they had formulas and everything!
20100609 04:13:41< Espreon> Gambit: Do you believe in Ленин?
20100609 04:13:49< Espreon> Ленин was a pretty cool guy.
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20100609 04:14:03< Espreon> ... he led the Bolsheviks to victory and didn't afraid of anything!
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20100609 04:18:15< King_Elendil> hi :D
20100609 04:20:10< Gambit> fk another creeper
20100609 04:20:22< Gambit> PetePorty: Maybe you were smart to build your house out of metal :(
20100609 04:20:23< Espreon> Oh noez!
20100609 04:20:39 * Gambit is tired of rebuilding every time a creeper blows a hole in his wall
20100609 04:20:40< PetePorty> Gambit: I didn't
20100609 04:20:43< Gambit> Espreon: minecraft.net
20100609 04:20:57< Gambit> PetePorty: I'm converting my mud walls to cobblestone. It's almost entirely creeper proof.
20100609 04:21:01< Gambit> I have one more wall to go.
20100609 04:21:02< PetePorty> I first did a dirt fortress
20100609 04:21:03 * Espreon wants to build a mansion out of German marcs.
20100609 04:21:06< Espreon> *marks
20100609 04:21:10< Gambit> And of course a pack of them shows up at that specific wall!!!
20100609 04:21:16< Espreon> Gambit: No.
20100609 04:21:32< PetePorty> and then I start changing stuff
20100609 04:21:48< King_Elendil> what are we talking about now?
20100609 04:21:57< PetePorty> Minecraft
20100609 04:22:53< PetePorty> Gambit, I used a small map, and got to the corner, so II could only be attacked from 2 sides.... then I started expanding my empire
20100609 04:23:00< Gambit> King_Elendil: minecraft.net/survivaltest/
20100609 04:23:33< Gambit> very addictive
20100609 04:23:34< Gambit> and KISS
20100609 04:24:40< PetePorty> Gambit: I have a treehouse
20100609 04:26:02< Espreon> PetePorty: Sure you do....
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20100609 04:26:20< PetePorty> Espreon, you playing the game?
20100609 04:26:40< PetePorty> THEN STFU AND GTFO
20100609 04:26:44< PetePorty> :D
20100609 04:27:03< King_Elendil_> :/
20100609 04:27:10< Espreon> PetePorty: I am too awesome to partake in such foolishness.
20100609 04:27:21< King_Elendil_> me too
20100609 04:27:26< PetePorty> It's A GOOD GAME ACTUALLY
20100609 04:27:36< PetePorty> I thought it was gonna suck
20100609 04:27:37 * Espreon wonders why people bother to use "participate" instead of "partake".
20100609 04:27:42< PetePorty> but it didn't
20100609 04:28:11< King_Elendil_> not as good as Eschalon book II
20100609 04:28:36 * Espreon doesn't read books for fun, unless I actually see that they are enjoyable
20100609 04:29:17< King_Elendil_> it's a game :P
20100609 04:31:49< King_Elendil_> http://basiliskgames.com/eschalon-book-ii
20100609 04:33:11 * SpoOkyMagician lol's at this conversation
20100609 04:33:35< King_Elendil_> why?
20100609 04:34:10< SpoOkyMagician> i just find PetePorty and Gambit are always having random convo's
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20100609 04:34:22< King_Elendil_> lol
20100609 04:34:29< King_Elendil_> hi ancestral :D
20100609 04:34:36< ancestral> Hi
20100609 04:34:40< shadowmaster> SpoOkyMagician: that's true, but no need to point it out
20100609 04:34:43< ancestral> How's life?
20100609 04:34:53< King_Elendil_> fine, yours?
20100609 04:34:59< SpoOkyMagician> heh he was the one that asked :P
20100609 04:35:06< ancestral> Cream-filled
20100609 04:35:18< King_Elendil_> lol
20100609 04:35:50< ancestral> So, any feedback on my creations?
20100609 04:36:03< ancestral> I have three major projects and a bazillion minor ones
20100609 04:36:13< SpoOkyMagician> creations?
20100609 04:36:14< King_Elendil_> you talking to me still?
20100609 04:36:24< ancestral> Yes
20100609 04:36:29< ancestral> Or anyone really
20100609 04:36:45< SpoOkyMagician> (just got here. no idea what you are referring to. lol)
20100609 04:36:54< ancestral> Well
20100609 04:37:00< ancestral> Academy, Bestiary, and Ascension
20100609 04:37:20< SpoOkyMagician> okay...
20100609 04:38:33 * ancestral is eating General Tso's chicken
20100609 04:38:55 * SpoOkyMagician continues to work on something else
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20100609 04:39:57< ancestral> Anyone here really good with PHP ?
20100609 04:39:58< King_Elendil_> academy is looking very interesting. Will it be difficult to make an off-line version?
20100609 04:40:46< ancestral> Yes, until more browsers support offline HTML5 file I/O
20100609 04:40:58< ancestral> (At least I think that's in the spec)
20100609 04:41:14< shadowmaster> ancestral: depends
20100609 04:41:24< shadowmaster> I'm generally unwilling to look at other people's code in any language
20100609 04:41:47< ancestral> Well it's not reviewing code it's just going about it
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20100609 04:42:31< ancestral> It seems to me that parse_str might work well when reading in a cfg
20100609 04:42:59< ancestral> The trouble is that WML and HTML/XML use different characters for elements/tags
20100609 04:43:23< ancestral> But parse_str stores values to variables based on the = character, right?
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20100609 04:45:01< ancestral> So potentially I could do a string replace for returns with &, ignoring macros and everything else for now, store all the variables and change the values of the <input>s on the HTML page
20100609 04:45:14< shadowmaster> haven't worked with parse_str
20100609 04:45:24< shadowmaster> also, I tried to write WML parsers in C++ and Perl
20100609 04:45:31< shadowmaster> hilarity ensued
20100609 04:45:36< ancestral> Yeah
20100609 04:46:00< ancestral> Well AI wrote an excellent patch for wmlparser which converts from cfg to json
20100609 04:46:16< ancestral> But then I'd have to convert everything back, which might be twice as hard
20100609 04:46:40< ancestral> A task anyway that I don't want to do
20100609 04:47:28< King_Elendil_> good night guys
20100609 04:47:38< ancestral> Good night, King_Elendil_ 
20100609 04:47:47< shadowmaster> ni King_Elendil_ 
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20100609 04:48:29< ancestral> I think the thing I'm going to have to worry about soon is custom or new keys and macros
20100609 04:48:51 * Espreon thinks that peace treaties should be translated with Babel Fish.
20100609 04:48:51< ancestral> But even if I can get the basics down then the advanced stuff can come later
20100609 04:49:11< Espreon> ... before they're signed.
20100609 04:49:26< ancestral> Do you trust Babel fish?
20100609 04:49:30< PetePorty> Gambit, I have an incredible 8x7 fortress with 40 blocks height
20100609 04:49:33< ancestral> Or are you making a point about translators?
20100609 04:49:48< Gambit> 8x7?
20100609 04:49:50< Gambit> that's tiny
20100609 04:49:54< Espreon> ancestral: Do you seriously think that I'd trust Babel Fish?
20100609 04:49:54< PetePorty> I know.
20100609 04:50:11< PetePorty> I'll live as a dwarf underground
20100609 04:50:13< ancestral> Well, no, but, I didn't know how else to interpret what you said
20100609 04:50:24< ancestral> Unless the sarcasm meter is pointing to FULL
20100609 04:53:32< PetePorty> Damn... I wen't out and there were about 20 skeles
20100609 04:55:24 * Gambit hates it when he's speelunking and monsters spawn in his house -_-
20100609 04:55:35< PetePorty> yeah
20100609 04:55:42< PetePorty> it sucks
20100609 04:56:25< Gambit> it makes for such a lovely surprise as you're going up the stairs...
20100609 04:56:56< PetePorty> I'll go to creative mode now...
20100609 04:57:00< PetePorty> it sucks
20100609 04:57:28< PetePorty> specially when they enter your 1-exit-only mine... and you are inside
20100609 04:58:04< PetePorty> MAN!
20100609 04:58:21< PetePorty> you can build a house in creative mode and load it for survival!
20100609 04:58:30< PetePorty> Gambit, read up
20100609 04:58:31< Gambit> aww werem
20100609 04:58:39< Gambit> *weren't expecting us? sucks to be you!
20100609 05:00:03< Gambit> PetePorty: That's cheating.
20100609 05:00:20< PetePorty> but... it feels so right...
20100609 05:03:54< shadowmaster> Nobody expected the Spanish Inquisition!
20100609 05:08:24< SpoOkyMagician> meh, this WML is gonna be a nightmare to fix...
20100609 05:09:20< shadowmaster> WML tends to be like that
20100609 05:09:38< shadowmaster> but don't let Gambit or Espreon hear me saying that
20100609 05:09:47< shadowmaster> oh wait, they are here.
20100609 05:10:16< Gambit> And  you highlighted us
20100609 05:10:24< Espreon> shadowmaster: HOW DARE YOU!
20100609 05:10:25< shadowmaster> ah, the irony
20100609 05:10:53< SpoOkyMagician> heh
20100609 05:19:03< PetePorty> lol
20100609 05:20:58 * Gambit thinks he meant to do that.
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20100609 05:24:42< SpoOkyMagician> meh, 621 lines down... 1640 lines to go... >.<
20100609 05:24:55 * SpoOkyMagician shakes head
20100609 05:25:39 * Espreon thinks that SpoOkyMagician should look at TSL's multifloor (and stuff for it) and lore reviewer code.
20100609 05:26:38< SpoOkyMagician> heh perhaps... but, I still have to check over my othr 3000+ lines of code... >.<
20100609 05:26:53< SpoOkyMagician> other *
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20100609 05:28:01< SpoOkyMagician> but than again... it could be worse... look at sx... xD
20100609 05:28:33< SpoOkyMagician> that must have at least 10k lines of code...
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20100609 05:29:43< PetePorty> so.. yeah, good nigh... sleep well, in 30 minutes it's my birthday, YAY!
20100609 05:29:47< PetePorty> bye, c ya guys
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20100609 05:34:30< ancestral> shadowmaster: Probably don't care, but I think it works :)
20100609 05:35:04< ancestral> Wow it works beautifully
20100609 05:35:08< ancestral> PHP rocks
20100609 05:35:36< shadowmaster> if Gambit was here
20100609 05:35:49< shadowmaster> he'd say that CFML rocks and PHP sucks
20100609 05:36:01< shadowmaster> however, he isn't here so I'll just say that PHP rocks, too
20100609 05:36:09< SpoOkyMagician> heh
20100609 05:36:11< ancestral> Haha
20100609 05:36:15< ancestral> PHP > CFML
20100609 05:36:21< ancestral> He can go to war with me if he likes ;-)
20100609 05:36:38< shadowmaster> I don't have to pay with my soul to get a neat platform for web development
20100609 05:37:40< ancestral> Exactly!
20100609 05:37:46< ancestral> Flash is kinda like that too
20100609 05:38:00< ancestral> Heh, kinda
20100609 05:39:06< ancestral> Man, I love it when one part of a project helps another project
20100609 05:45:50< SpoOkyMagician> ancestral: who wouldn't? :P
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20100609 05:49:36< ancestral> Well given how easy this was I might just extend this into Bestiary
20100609 05:49:47< ancestral> I wouldn't need to run wmlparser to generate the JSON
20100609 05:50:03< ancestral> Though that could still be a pretty easy method too, through JavaScript
20100609 05:51:27< ancestral> I'll have to think about that
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20100609 08:46:22< Unnheulu> shadowmaster, no sleep?
20100609 08:46:59< shadowmaster> why asking
20100609 08:47:29< Unnheulu> Because its...uhh...almost 3 in the morning?
20100609 08:47:44< shadowmaster> 7:47
20100609 08:47:48< shadowmaster> you seem to be up too early
20100609 08:47:59< Unnheulu> School...
20100609 08:48:10< shadowmaster> ah, it's -lGLU instead; it works well with thatand yes it's around 3 am here
20100609 08:48:13< shadowmaster> argh
20100609 08:48:22< shadowmaster> and yes it's around 3 am her
20100609 08:48:25< shadowmaster> e
20100609 08:50:19 * Rhonda hands shadowmaster a blanket
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20100609 09:03:46< Unnheulu> Teehee; massive argument on another channel I'm on last night
20100609 09:04:11< Unnheulu> Argument then spilt out of the channel into the network play; loads of bannings, admin removals, and new admins being added
20100609 09:05:13< ancestral> Nice
20100609 09:05:33< Unnheulu> Ahm, it also led to quite a few people quitting
20100609 09:05:52< ancestral> Was this for a particular game?
20100609 09:05:57< Unnheulu> yeh
20100609 09:06:15< Unnheulu> The one I link to in my siggy
20100609 09:06:23< ancestral> Okay
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20100609 16:26:23< Gambit> shadowmaster: There are open source coldfusion servers that do not ask for your soul.
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20100609 16:27:37< Gambit> They're just a major pain in the rear, but you're used to that from software. 
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20100609 16:28:29< Gambit> The language itself is as open as PHP.
20100609 16:28:49< Gambit> (which it is greater than)
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20100609 20:22:45 * SpoOkyMagician is bored :(
20100609 20:24:13 * Gambit angry
20100609 20:25:12< SpoOkyMagician> oh... interesting... 7 important windows 7 updates... (most i've seen ever since i got computer... lol)
20100609 20:27:42< Unnheulu> oh... interesting... 45 updates (least i've seen ever since i got computer... lol)
20100609 20:28:02< SpoOkyMagician> lol
20100609 20:28:13< Unnheulu> Sorry ;)
20100609 20:28:34< SpoOkyMagician> np, made me laugh. i needed one. :P
20100609 20:28:52 * Unnheulu smirks
20100609 20:30:24< SpoOkyMagician> i bet 50 gold i'll have to reboot. :P
20100609 20:30:29< Unnheulu> Heh
20100609 20:30:47< Unnheulu> For some reason the updates aren't downloading
20100609 20:30:58< SpoOkyMagician> xD
20100609 20:31:19< SpoOkyMagician> woot! 100 gold for me :P brb
20100609 20:31:24< Unnheulu> Hehe
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20100609 20:36:00 * Unnheulu waits for the android to *actually* boot
20100609 20:36:24< SpoOkyMagician> heh
20100609 20:40:30 * Unnheulu recognises you off the forums
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20100609 20:41:06< Unnheulu> Ugh, this is driving me mad
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20100609 21:05:07< Blueblaze> ancestral: yo se jaja
20100609 21:05:50< Blueblaze> ancestral: inorite = yoseno
20100609 21:05:57< ancestral> Tú estás repugnante
20100609 21:06:21< Blueblaze> Es verdad
20100609 21:06:41< ancestral> No quiero oírlo
20100609 21:06:44< Blueblaze> Pero, tú preguntó cómo
20100609 21:07:00< ancestral> Comprendes?
20100609 21:07:10< Blueblaze> Estaba siendo honesto
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20100609 21:07:20< Blueblaze> [14:03] <ancestral> How girl got pragnent?
20100609 21:07:47< ancestral> You said you got a girl pregnant
20100609 21:07:58< ancestral> Alright, I'm not talking to you. This is childish. Grow up.
20100609 21:08:13< Blueblaze> jaja
20100609 21:08:38< Blueblaze> Los chicos siempre serán serán chicos
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20100609 21:18:35< Blueblaze> ancestral: Hoy subjuntivo en presente
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20100609 21:20:00< Blueblaze> I have indicative: future, conditional; subjunctive: imperfect, future; imperative: affirmative, negative; amd past participle to learn as far as verb conjugations go
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20100609 21:32:15< SpoOkyMagician> Unnheulu: oh rly?
20100609 21:32:23< SpoOkyMagician> :P
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20100609 21:53:02< SpoOkyMagician> any artists here that have some free time/not busy at the moment?
20100609 21:53:31< Blueblaze> no such thing
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20100609 21:54:03< SpoOkyMagician> heh true... most likely drawing other stuff.
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20100609 22:07:35< Gambit> rawr
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20100609 23:08:52< PetePorty> Hi guys!
20100609 23:09:06< PetePorty> Espreon, where's my gift?
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20100609 23:11:38< PetePorty> Gambit, where's my gift?
20100609 23:11:48< PetePorty> shadowmaster, where's my gift?
20100609 23:13:12< Espreon> PetePorty: Tu regalo está en Inferno.
20100609 23:13:18< Espreon> Right shadowmaster?
20100609 23:13:29< PetePorty> but.. it's my birthday...
20100609 23:13:40< PetePorty> I don't wanna go to hell just to look for a gift...
20100609 23:14:09< Espreon> Mira en Tartaros.
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20100609 23:23:56 * SpoOkyMagician_ gives PetePorty a cookie
20100609 23:24:05< PetePorty> thx man!
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20100609 23:24:21< PetePorty> shadowmaster, bless you
20100609 23:24:44< PetePorty> no, wait
20100609 23:24:57< PetePorty> SpoOkyMagician, shadowmaster bless you
20100609 23:25:15< SpoOkyMagician> your welcome. happy birthday
20100609 23:26:10< SpoOkyMagician> mine is coming up too... gonna get older... lol
20100609 23:26:27< SpoOkyMagician> (not til next month though)
20100609 23:27:33< PetePorty> cool
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20100609 23:37:08< shadowmaster> PetePorty: there's no gift
20100609 23:37:18< PetePorty> you kiddin right?
20100609 23:37:28< shadowmaster> no, I'm not
20100609 23:37:33< PetePorty> ..but...
20100609 23:37:40< shadowmaster> and seriously, I hate brithdays
20100609 23:37:59< shadowmaster> even when properly spelt
20100609 23:38:03< PetePorty> :(
20100609 23:38:15< PetePorty> those damn brithdays....
20100609 23:43:28 * SpoOkyMagician_ listens to music while he works on UGS
20100609 23:43:38-!- SpoOkyMagician_ is now known as SpoOkyMagician
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