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20100612 00:00:12< PetePorty> Hi guys!
20100612 00:00:25< elvish_sovereign> hi PetePorty
20100612 00:00:25< pyshee> hai
20100612 00:00:52< PetePorty> pyshee! how are you! it's been so long since last time I saw you!
20100612 00:01:00< PetePorty> what have you been up to?
20100612 00:01:14< pyshee> just got Wesnoth yesterday. lol
20100612 00:01:20< pyshee> you saw me in #xmoto i think.
20100612 00:01:24< PetePorty> hahaha
20100612 00:01:34< PetePorty> nah, I always do that to people I don't know
20100612 00:01:41< PetePorty> and some actually reply....
20100612 00:01:45< PetePorty> and ask back
20100612 00:01:49< pyshee> lawl
20100612 00:01:52< elvish_sovereign> pyshee: nice
20100612 00:01:58< elvish_sovereign> what do you think of it?
20100612 00:02:07< pyshee> i suck at it :D
20100612 00:02:17< PetePorty> we all did
20100612 00:02:20< PetePorty> used to
20100612 00:02:23< elvish_sovereign> everyone sucks when we start
20100612 00:02:26< PetePorty> when we started
20100612 00:02:31< PetePorty> exactly
20100612 00:03:31< PetePorty> btw... play in easy dificultty, seriously
20100612 00:03:56< elvish_sovereign> hey pyshee are you playing HttT?
20100612 00:04:29< elvish_sovereign> HttT=Heir to the Throne
20100612 00:04:32< pyshee> yeah
20100612 00:04:36< pyshee> should i not?
20100612 00:04:39< elvish_sovereign> hmm
20100612 00:04:44< pyshee> PetePorty: i am :D
20100612 00:04:50< pyshee> well, i was
20100612 00:04:51< elvish_sovereign> I would start with The South Guard first
20100612 00:04:59< pyshee> ok
20100612 00:05:05< PetePorty> maybe a tale of two brothers?
20100612 00:05:11< elvish_sovereign> wither one
20100612 00:05:14< elvish_sovereign> either*
20100612 00:05:14< pyshee> ok
20100612 00:05:19< pyshee> ill try then
20100612 00:05:21< elvish_sovereign> not the other two yet
20100612 00:05:33< elvish_sovereign> thats if you feel httt is too hard
20100612 00:05:35 * pyshee goes to get a chord to connect a moniter
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20100612 00:41:35< elias> oh my god, wesnoth on ipad is incredible
20100612 00:41:55< elias> no other commercial game i bought was so worth its money
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20100612 00:44:20< shadowmaster> you bought wesnoth? and you are a wesnoth dev? you should be ashamed!
20100612 00:44:22< shadowmaster> :P
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20100612 00:45:59< elias> well, my new boss sent me an ipad... so i wanted at least one app on it (besides the one i'm paid to develop)
20100612 00:46:37< elias> wesnoth hd kinda was the natural choice for me :)
20100612 00:47:05< elias> didn't expect it to work so well though, compared to the lite version i saw some time ago on the iphone
20100612 00:47:56< elias> shadowmaster: doesn't part of the money go to wesnoth?
20100612 00:48:01< shadowmaster> yes
20100612 00:48:26< elias> well, then i'm not ashamed... it supports further development :)
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20100612 00:56:30< Gambit> Wow. The government is worried there aren't enough kids these days learning how to break/defend computers.
20100612 00:56:31< Gambit> http://strydehax.blogspot.com/2010/03/where-have-all-hackers-gone.html
20100612 00:59:31< shadowmaster> your country is nuts
20100612 01:00:01< shadowmaster> and I mean it for the school laptops thing
20100612 01:00:07< Gambit> I dunno. Chine and Russia have both used computer hacking as a means of attacking other countries in the past 5 years.
20100612 01:00:15< Gambit> shadowmaster: oh. nevermind what I just said then.
20100612 01:00:26< shadowmaster> it's China, btw
20100612 01:00:31< Gambit> bah
20100612 01:00:48< Gambit> Japanese come from Japan. Chinese come from Chine.
20100612 01:01:05< shadowmaster> China.
20100612 01:01:19< shadowmaster> it's not "Chinenese"
20100612 01:01:47< Gambit> Candians -> Canadia
20100612 01:02:17< shadowmaster> to make things worse, it seems that your schools don't teach you grammar and spelling
20100612 01:02:23< shadowmaster> too bad
20100612 01:02:57< Gambit> It was a typo, but because you bothered me about it, I just kept rolling.
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20100612 01:03:37< shadowmaster> sorry, I don't like trolls
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20100612 01:04:58< shadowmaster> oh wait, I read that as "kept trolling"
20100612 01:05:10< shadowmaster> sorry about it
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20100612 01:56:05< Catoptromancy> ive compiled wesntoh pretty flawlessly for awhile
20100612 01:56:38< Catoptromancy> something happened in autotools
20100612 01:56:45< Catoptromancy> lua has never been a problem before
20100612 01:57:32< Catoptromancy> heh theres a lua
20100612 01:57:33< Catoptromancy> patch
20100612 01:57:37< Catoptromancy> that might do something
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20100612 02:26:53< Catoptromancy> hmm
20100612 02:27:02< Catoptromancy> even cmake is acting funny
20100612 02:27:21< Catoptromancy> make install recompiles without installing
20100612 02:27:28< Catoptromancy> following exact directions on page
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20100612 04:51:00< PetePorty> Gambit! I'm a builder in minecraft multiplayer!
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20100612 04:54:11< Gambit> PetePorty: Cool.
20100612 04:54:24 * Gambit is reading a reference of (supposedly) all linux commands :o
20100612 04:54:30< PetePorty> yay! I feel important
20100612 04:55:24< Gambit> Time to break into that snobby linux users club.
20100612 04:55:47 * Gambit has been inelligable for like 5-6 jobs already this year due to lack of linux experience :(
20100612 04:55:53< Gambit> BUT NO MORE!
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20100612 04:59:54< PetePorty> ummm... is there a way I can have freenode and quakenet at the same time on the same window?
20100612 05:06:33< Espreon> Use an IRC client that doesn't suck?
20100612 05:06:48< Necrosporus> PetePorty, X-Chat i.e.
20100612 05:06:54< Necrosporus> Not mIRC
20100612 05:07:07< PetePorty> I use xchat
20100612 05:07:33< Necrosporus> Xchat - network list - quakenet - connect
20100612 05:07:47< Necrosporus> Main menu
20100612 05:08:57< Necrosporus> Or just Ctrl-S — QuakeNet — Connect
20100612 05:09:46< PetePorty> ok, thx
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20100612 05:22:50< Necrosporus> PetePorty, double click also works
20100612 05:23:06< PetePorty> ;) yeah, thanks
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20100612 05:23:47< Necrosporus> Do you know any mumble servers?
20100612 05:24:00< Necrosporus> Does Wesnoth work with mumble?
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20100612 05:44:53< PetePorty> hahaha, I read something and guess who I thought about: If you're too obsessed with how perfectly someone is spelling on the net when you understand what they are saying, then you're trying too hard to look insightful and intelligent when in reality you're only looking for internet street cred.
20100612 05:49:00< shadowmaster> if you are thinking about me, I only correct you because I know you aren't a native speaker.
20100612 05:50:03< noy> if you're thinking about me, I only correct you because I'm a true ass
20100612 05:50:36< noy> And like exploiting the misery of others
20100612 05:50:42< noy> whenever possible. 
20100612 05:52:48< PetePorty> I thought about Espreon...
20100612 05:53:00< PetePorty> gee
20100612 05:53:45< pishi> eh..in the Tale of Two Brothers or whatever it's called, which should I have chosen? Bring the guy along or leave him behind?
20100612 05:57:33< knotwork> In local game multiplayer, how do you make AI opponents? it always wants me to play every side
20100612 05:58:09< knotwork> (on the maps I have tried, anyway; they all were 2 or 4 players maps, I see no 1-player (+ai's) maps listed
20100612 06:00:13< shadowmaster> pishi: bring him along
20100612 06:00:23< pishi> already did
20100612 06:00:28< pishi> but thanks for responding anyways :D
20100612 06:07:43< shadowmaster> w00t!
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20100612 06:07:47< shadowmaster> I just killed a spambot mid-posting!
20100612 06:08:02< shadowmaster> er.
20100612 06:08:06< shadowmaster> and deleted their account
20100612 06:08:15< shadowmaster> I didn't want to do that.
20100612 06:08:31< King_Elendil> oh well
20100612 06:08:46< shadowmaster> I'll just blacklist that name
20100612 06:08:52< shadowmaster> since the username got destroyed too
20100612 06:09:01< shadowmaster> *username ban
20100612 06:09:36< shadowmaster> problem solved! hehe
20100612 06:09:39< King_Elendil> how has your day of fighting crime been?
20100612 06:09:51< shadowmaster> not good
20100612 06:10:01< King_Elendil> really?
20100612 06:10:27< King_Elendil> why not?
20100612 06:10:31< shadowmaster> I've been sick for a week and a half, so I can't have a good day lately
20100612 06:11:00< King_Elendil> lol, I beat you: I've been sick for two weeks.
20100612 06:11:18< shadowmaster> of what?
20100612 06:11:42< King_Elendil> I'm not sure, I had a sore throat and a nasty cough.
20100612 06:12:43< King_Elendil> lol, did I miss a joke, or was that what you meant?
20100612 06:12:57< shadowmaster> no, that was it
20100612 06:13:04< Necrosporus> knotwork, :droid
20100612 06:13:05< King_Elendil> ok
20100612 06:13:13< Necrosporus> Or :droid <side>
20100612 06:13:22< knotwork> thx!
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20100612 06:13:41< shadowmaster> knotwork: even easier, you can just click on the buttons that say "Local player" when setting up sides and select the AI
20100612 06:13:46< Necrosporus> Or AFAIK you can choose AI as player
20100612 06:14:30< Necrosporus> knotwork, but with :droid you can switch sides without interrupting game
20100612 06:14:44< Necrosporus> Also read manual, there is :control command
20100612 06:14:49< knotwork> I dont see such buttons, even settings button vanishes when I slect some (most?) maps
20100612 06:16:27< shadowmaster> http://shadowm.rewound.net/buttons.png
20100612 06:18:38< knotwork> aaaaaaaaaaahhh! thx
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20100612 06:21:32< knotwork> wow forest is creeping into keep! interesting
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20100612 06:32:34< King_Elendil> we should get a group of people from the wesnoth community that are talented in different areas, and start a RPG game separate from wesnoth. maybe similar to Avernum or Eschalon, but open-source and free
20100612 06:33:32< King_Elendil> I would start now, but I don't have the necessary skills for any area yet :/
20100612 06:33:35< knotwork> I have been working toward using Freeciv for the persistent worlds. I don't know what Avernum nor Eschalon are like (off to google now...)
20100612 06:34:31< shadowmaster> King_Elendil: that kind of happened already
20100612 06:34:40< shadowmaster> Silvertree RPG was born. It didn't last for much
20100612 06:35:45< knotwork> part of 'problem' with Wesnoth in that regard is it seems more about chronicling past events and plotting future ones (storyboarding) than making things happen
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20100612 06:36:41< shadowmaster> er.
20100612 06:36:48< King_Elendil> I see
20100612 06:37:00 * shadowmaster scratches head
20100612 06:37:42< knotwork> But maybe when umpteen ongoing campaigns have all gone onto back burners pending strategic player actually making a move on strategic scale, there will incentive to log into freeciv as some nation or other and actually make a move so all the campaigns hanging on what that nation does next can continue... :) ;) :D
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20100612 06:42:40< knotwork> I have set 'deadlines' of 2063 and, uh, whatever date the Terradorians are going to destroy Earth. (As if they do that we wont be here to write more...)
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20100612 06:43:05< shadowmaster> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=434283#p434283
20100612 06:43:15< shadowmaster> This, people, is a spambot
20100612 06:43:26< shadowmaster> Look at his claws.
20100612 06:43:45< shadowmaster> Behold his rotten teeth.
20100612 06:46:10< shadowmaster> It has posted in other forums and has been banned from other forums, all under the same username.
20100612 06:46:24< shadowmaster> It won't be any different here, for I know the Truth.
20100612 06:49:16< knotwork> (Actually the 2063 is a past-deadline date; by than, according to that plot, earth will already have been devastated)
20100612 06:49:37< knotwork> (But at least in that plot earth will suvive)
20100612 06:56:17< knotwork> (I am hoping if there are any brings out there with their ears pointed our way they'll help us fool the Terradorians into believing Earth destroyed...
20100612 06:56:25< knotwork> ...without its actually being destroyed)
20100612 06:56:46< knotwork> s/brings/beings/
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20100612 10:25:04< Ivanovic> moin
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20100612 15:11:40< King_Elendil> does anyone know who was working on silvertree RPG?
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20100612 16:15:36< King_Elendil> http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/tucYpZrN does anyone know if this will work right?
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20100612 18:11:12< rocket16> Hello all,
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20100612 18:24:07< rocket16> How to counter Knalgans with Rebels? Knalgans seem to be very powerful, and there us not major wayout to defeat. Well, as I compiled all Wesnoth resources from Internet, I came to know of "full-potential Shaman" strategy, but that is a purely defensive one. Any more idea?
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20100612 18:28:31< rocket16> Lol, this channel is a silent one, :D
20100612 18:40:27< Soliton> look at knalgan vs rebel replays from the ladder or wherever.
20100612 18:40:41< koan> rocket16: slow the most dengerous Knalgan units with a shaman and then attack them with your other units
20100612 18:41:00< koan> dangerous
20100612 18:56:16< rocket16> koan: Thanks, :)
20100612 18:56:29< rocket16> Soliton: Thanks, 
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20100612 19:25:53< Blarumyrran> What is the opposite of "lazy" in english?
20100612 19:27:27< noy> industrious? 
20100612 19:28:18< noy> bahaha... thats what my thesaurus gave :p
20100612 19:30:02< Blarumyrran> "I'm industrious enough to turn off the tv after leaving the room"
20100612 19:30:38< noy> that would more be thoughtful
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20100612 19:30:55< noy> or considerate 
20100612 19:33:28< Blarumyrran> Bad example then. But I think you can be "industrious" only in very long term, but you can be lazy and unlazy also in very short term, "I'm too lazy to X right now"
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20100612 19:40:59< noy> energetic?
20100612 19:46:17< Sonderblade> how do you get sound in wesnoth without using pulseaudio? is it possible?
20100612 19:50:02< Necrosporus> Is it possible to integrate wesnoth with mumble?
20100612 19:50:21< Necrosporus> Or use voice chat in other ways?
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20100612 19:59:28< rocket16> Hello friends, I created a new Channel on Wesnoth strategies, I hope it is right to do so, or do I need permission from anyone?
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20100612 20:02:06< rocket16> Friends, I created a new Channel on discussions about anything in Wesnoth, mostly the strategies, which aims at helping newbies to become experts of tactics. And discussions about gameplay is also welcome. It is #wesnoth-strategies. But as it uses the name of Wesnoth, do I need to take permission from anyone?
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20100612 20:14:26< rocket16> Anybody?
20100612 20:14:37< King_Elendil> yes?
20100612 20:14:55< elias> rocket16: i'm quite sure nobody will complain
20100612 20:15:03< rocket16> King_Elendil:  created a new Channel on discussions about anything in Wesnoth, mostly the strategies, which aims at helping newbies to become experts of tactics. And discussions about gameplay is also welcome. It is #wesnoth-strategies. But as it uses the name of Wesnoth, do I need to take permission from anyone?
20100612 20:15:07< rocket16> elias: Thanks, :)
20100612 20:15:23< elias> you'd have to read the Freendoe terms of service to see if it says anything about which channels you can create... i think you can create whatever channels you want :)
20100612 20:16:02< King_Elendil> sounds like a good idea, maybe you should confirm it with sirp
20100612 20:16:29< rocket16> elias: Ok, :) I already registered with Freenode, under their terms. Really thanks for the help, :)
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20100612 21:49:06< shadowmaster> elias: not true
20100612 21:49:28< shadowmaster> he shouldn't create channels under our namespace without our group contact (Ivanovic's) permission
20100612 21:49:34< elias> i see
20100612 21:49:39< shadowmaster> unless they are topic namespace ##channels
20100612 21:49:41< Ivanovic> nah, he can create the chan
20100612 21:49:53< Ivanovic> i am just able to take it over by telling the freenode people that i need access
20100612 21:49:57< shadowmaster> this is to avoid people misrepresenting a project in the network
20100612 21:50:09< Ivanovic> (since everything in #wesnoth* is where my powers lie)
20100612 21:50:22< shadowmaster> it's not just a matter of access permissions
20100612 21:50:55 * elias creates #wesnoth-at
20100612 21:51:37< shadowmaster> in particular, I'm not sure this guy in particular is fit for using our name
20100612 21:52:36< Blarumyrran> Yeah, he is not an efficient developer like you as he said
20100612 21:52:58< shadowmaster> your opinion is irrelevant
20100612 21:53:10< Blarumyrran> What opinion
20100612 21:53:36< Unnheulu> Can anyone link me?
20100612 21:55:52< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: what do you need?
20100612 21:56:02< Unnheulu> shadowmaster, meh d/w
20100612 21:56:10< shadowmaster> download what?
20100612 21:56:24< Unnheulu> d/w = don't worry...
20100612 21:56:51< shadowmaster> then what's the slash for?
20100612 21:56:55< Unnheulu> Space
20100612 21:57:03< Unnheulu> :)
20100612 21:57:22< shadowmaster> why?
20100612 21:57:27< Unnheulu> It just is
20100612 21:57:33< Unnheulu> Don't ask me about internet slang
20100612 21:58:17< shadowmaster> and why are you hilighting me elsewhere?
20100612 21:58:22< Unnheulu> :)
20100612 21:58:35< shadowmaster> that is no answer
20100612 21:58:46< Unnheulu> It's going to be madder than you've seen in your life if Memories and my instincts prove correct
20100612 21:58:55< Unnheulu> Last time it went on for days, lets see about today
20100612 21:59:09< shadowmaster> I see what you are talking about
20100612 21:59:14< shadowmaster> but your memories don't need to be capitalized
20100612 21:59:29< Unnheulu> He does
20100612 21:59:34< Unnheulu> /userlist
20100612 22:00:02< shadowmaster> I don't understand what you are talking about.
20100612 22:00:04< shadowmaster> now.
20100612 22:00:30< shadowmaster> be more specific before I kick you out
20100612 22:00:41< Unnheulu> Memories is a player in xmoto, who is very good at stirring up trouble
20100612 22:00:54< Unnheulu> Unfortunately he is also the admin I trust the most
20100612 22:00:54< shadowmaster> I don't see anyone named Memories here
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20100612 22:01:56< shadowmaster> thank you for wasting my time 
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20100612 22:12:01< King_Elendil> why did silvertree RPG die?
20100612 22:12:18< Unnheulu> King_Elendil, because thats what things do
20100612 22:12:19< Unnheulu> They die
20100612 22:12:42< King_Elendil> thanks for the helpful info :P
20100612 22:12:45< Aethaeryn> All projects will one day die.
20100612 22:12:50< Aethaeryn> It's a fact of life. :-(
20100612 22:13:00< Aethaeryn> Google will even go offline one day...
20100612 22:13:57< King_Elendil> seriously though, does anyone know why it stopped being developed suddenly?
20100612 22:15:10< King_Elendil> I'll take that aas a no :/
20100612 22:15:14< King_Elendil> *as
20100612 22:15:40< Unnheulu> Because it was awful
20100612 22:15:43< Unnheulu> Noone liked it
20100612 22:15:54< Unnheulu> It was developed by people who don't know C++
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20100612 22:22:10< Unnheulu> shadowmaster, [21:16] <Unnheulu> shadowmaster, if you truly play xmoto, wanna race in network?
20100612 22:22:29< shadowmaster> I know how to read
20100612 22:25:20< Unnheulu> If you know how to read, why no reply then? :P
20100612 22:25:42< Blarumyrran> he doesn't know how to write, silly
20100612 22:25:52< King_Elendil> lol
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20100612 22:26:50< King_Elendil> why would he set time aside from his extremely busy schedule to play xmoto right now?
20100612 22:27:05< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: have you considered, dunno, the possibility that I could be BUSY DOING SOMETHING ELSE AT THE MOMENT?
20100612 22:27:19< Unnheulu> shadowmaster, I'm sure a yes/no could be simpler than a full-on rant
20100612 22:27:28< Unnheulu> And bugging nickserv/chanserv to op you
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20100612 22:27:46< shadowmaster> in fact, I haven't bugged chanserv to op me
20100612 22:27:55< shadowmaster> if your client can't tell you that, then it sucks
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20100612 22:28:25< King_Elendil> h deserves to op anyway :p
20100612 22:28:29< King_Elendil> *he
20100612 22:30:52< King_Elendil> unnheulu, what's up?
20100612 22:30:58< King_Elendil> ;)
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20100612 22:37:33< Unnheulu> Thank you mysterious elynia
20100612 22:39:14< Unnheulu> s/elynia/shadowmaster/ methinks
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20100612 22:57:12< Unnheulu> Gambit, farming for gold isn't working
20100612 22:59:07< Unnheulu> WHY!?!?!?
20100612 22:59:20< Unnheulu> Humph
20100612 22:59:22< Unnheulu> Ignore me then
20100612 22:59:51< Unnheulu> Gambit
20100612 22:59:54< Unnheulu> Are you there Gambit?
20100612 22:59:57< Unnheulu> GAMBIT!?!?!?!?!?!?!
20100612 23:03:55< shadowmaster> don't do that
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20100612 23:06:42 * wesbot slaps Unnheulu around with a big cluebat
20100612 23:08:07< Unnheulu> Aww
20100612 23:08:09< Unnheulu> That's mean
20100612 23:08:18< Unnheulu> wesbot, kick shadowmaster
20100612 23:08:18 * wesbot kicks Unnheulu instead, do your dirty work yourself.
20100612 23:08:21< Unnheulu> How dare he do that
20100612 23:08:22< Unnheulu> Aww
20100612 23:11:26-!- mode/#wesnoth [+o wesbot] by ChanServ
20100612 23:11:34< Unnheulu> Don't kick me wesbot :(
20100612 23:11:47-!- mode/#wesnoth [-o wesbot] by wesbot
20100612 23:11:50< Unnheulu> Few
20100612 23:12:55< Unnheulu> s/f/ph/
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