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20100621 00:19:43< Hulavuta> ...
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20100621 01:26:04< Hulavuta> hi
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20100621 01:50:53< PeterPorty> Hulavuta, haha, funny
20100621 01:52:36< PeterPorty> (that wasn't sarcastic btw)
20100621 01:52:47< PeterPorty> (that wasn't either)
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20100621 01:54:33< Hulavuta> What?
20100621 01:54:46< Hulavuta> You mean the woman thing?
20100621 01:55:11< PeterPorty> yeah
20100621 01:55:53< Hulavuta> lol
20100621 01:55:58< Hulavuta> Well I knew you were gonna say it
20100621 01:55:59< PeterPorty> do you think I can write it and erase itBEFORE shadowmaster sees it?
20100621 01:56:07< Hulavuta> idk
20100621 01:56:12< PeterPorty> damn...
20100621 01:56:13< Hulavuta> But I beat you to the punch anyway
20100621 01:56:18< PeterPorty> I better not
20100621 01:56:19< Hulavuta> brb need to use bathroom
20100621 01:56:25< PeterPorty> yeah, I've been working all day
20100621 01:56:34< PeterPorty> my mom needs me, brb too
20100621 01:59:03< PeterPorty> btw, your comment sounds sexist and racist
20100621 01:59:08< PeterPorty> the last one I mean...
20100621 02:01:24< shadowm_laptop> for God's sake, stop announcing your daily activities here
20100621 02:02:42< PeterPorty> lol
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20100621 02:05:30< PeterPorty> k, dinner time, bbl.... c ya guys
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20100621 02:49:54< PeterPorty>  backky back back
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20100621 05:07:23< Hulavuta> Hi
20100621 05:07:36< elvish_sovereign> HI
20100621 05:07:49< Hulavuta> HI
20100621 05:07:57< Espreon> Hello...
20100621 05:08:33< Hulavuta> Hi to you too
20100621 05:09:28< Hulavuta> e_s want to help me with some balancing?
20100621 05:09:40< elvish_sovereign> for what?
20100621 05:09:51< Hulavuta> Witch Doctors
20100621 05:09:59< elvish_sovereign> sure
20100621 05:10:13< Hulavuta> Cool
20100621 05:11:13< Hulavuta> I'm going to PM you the files
20100621 05:11:52< elvish_sovereign> ok
20100621 05:12:52< Hulavuta> So how about the Football game yesterday? (Assuming no one here is from USA)
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20100621 05:19:48< Hulavuta> Going to bed now. Bye
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20100621 05:58:56< shengii> If a host gets disconnected (though no message is displayed on Wesnoth), how does the host rejoin?
20100621 05:59:09< shengii> (From an online match on the official server)
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20100621 06:04:04< shadowm_laptop> the user must rejoin the game as an observer and someone must give them control of their side again
20100621 06:05:48< shengii> But only the host can transfer control, and they aren't properly recognized as being disconnected.
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20100621 06:18:55< shadowmaster> AFAIK someone else becomes the new host when the old host disconnects
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20100621 15:02:24< landscape69> i have a save game where i played with a friend, he gave me his email adress to tontact, but only in whisper mode, i have not written down it because thought if i replay it it will be show, but it didnt. its normal?
20100621 15:05:11< zookeeper> not sure. anyway you might want to double-check by opening the uncompressed save in a text editor...maybe whispers are just not displayed when replaying.
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20100621 15:13:05< landscape69> what is the tag for whisper?
20100621 15:16:52< zookeeper> i don't remember
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20100621 15:51:35< SekoIdiootti> http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=436403#p436403 <-that bothers me... I mean, it looks like it'd be humping the air... O.o Though, I know my opinion doesn't matter, but probably some 5 year old's parents who see the Saurian Augur would slap their hands on their kids' eyes and shout "OMFG WTF SEXIST LIZARD!!!?"
20100621 15:51:38< SekoIdiootti> or something... lol
20100621 15:52:38< SekoIdiootti> I mean, like... it doesn't bother me about that, but that I think it's funny. xD
20100621 15:52:55< SekoIdiootti> (I'm not trying to offend Sleepwalker)
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20100621 15:58:36< zookeeper> lolo ur so wierd xD
20100621 15:59:15< SekoIdiootti> :/
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20100621 16:25:04< Unnheulu> Blarumyrran, jetrel likes your new portrait :)
20100621 16:30:08< Blarumyrran> I do read that thread
20100621 16:31:29< Unnheulu> :)
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20100621 16:57:16< Hulavuta> Hi
20100621 16:57:20< Unnheulu> Does wesnoth have any creatures that love the snow?
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20100621 16:57:40< Hulavuta> Yeti I guess
20100621 16:57:46< Hulavuta> Maybe Wolves
20100621 16:57:49< Unnheulu> Any species?
20100621 16:57:56< Hulavuta> What do you mean by that?
20100621 16:58:00 * Unnheulu can't do a campaign about yeti's and wolves >.>
20100621 16:58:13< Hulavuta> Oh
20100621 16:58:27< Hulavuta> Hmm....Ice Elves?
20100621 16:58:34< Hulavuta> Maybe Orcs
20100621 16:58:36< Unnheulu> Heh
20100621 16:58:39< Unnheulu> Orcs, probably
20100621 17:01:18< Hulavuta> Dwarves maybe too
20100621 17:01:25< Hulavuta> I'm just picking Northern races though
20100621 17:01:43< Unnheulu> Yeh
20100621 17:01:50< Unnheulu> In that case I suppose saurians to some extent
20100621 17:01:59< Unnheulu> But there are already about 5 gazillion of them :)
20100621 17:06:23< Hulavuta>  What do you mean 5 gazillion?
20100621 17:06:29< Hulavuta> Plus Saurians can't survive ice
20100621 17:06:34< Hulavuta> They need warm enviroments
20100621 17:06:47< Unnheulu> They live in the north?
20100621 17:06:54< Unnheulu> I mean there are loads of saurian campaigns
20100621 17:07:00< Unnheulu> Oooh I should do trolls
20100621 17:07:35< Hulavuta> There aren't loads
20100621 17:07:43< Hulavuta> Mine and Vix are the only ones I can think of
20100621 17:07:47< Unnheulu> Yours, vix, and atlantaria's
20100621 17:07:56< Hulavuta> Atlantaria made one?
20100621 17:07:59< Hulavuta> Maybe I should try it
20100621 17:07:59< Unnheulu> Plus my one for 1.4
20100621 17:08:06< Hulavuta> Nobody uses 1.4 anymore
20100621 17:08:13< Unnheulu> True
20100621 17:08:19< Unnheulu> And wmllint won't work on it :/
20100621 17:08:19< Hulavuta> There are loads of Goblin campaigns I should say
20100621 17:08:22< Unnheulu> Anyways afk
20100621 17:08:26< Hulavuta> Ok
20100621 17:08:30< Unnheulu> There's one goblin campaign I can think of
20100621 17:08:33< Unnheulu> Be back after guitar
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20100621 17:10:04< Hulavuta> Promised Land, Swamplings, Defense of the Goblins, Gobowars
20100621 17:13:03< Hulavuta> Oh noes I found "Swamp Escape" a new Saurian Campaign
20100621 17:16:05< Hulavuta> I never would have guessed that Roar of the Woses was a Saurian campaign
20100621 17:17:22< Blarumyrran> "A kingdom! A kingdom! My horse for a kingdom!"
20100621 17:17:59< Hulavuta> wut
20100621 17:18:39< Blarumyrran> Well Roar of the Woses sounds like a play of words on War of the Roses
20100621 17:20:16< Hulavuta> Oh
20100621 17:20:20< Hulavuta> lol
20100621 17:20:53< SekoIdiootti> Woah, that sounds awesome
20100621 17:21:25< Hulavuta> what does
20100621 17:21:33< SekoIdiootti> Blarumyrran's last words
20100621 17:21:35< SekoIdiootti> I mean...
20100621 17:21:38< SekoIdiootti> the last he said
20100621 17:21:40< SekoIdiootti> lol
20100621 17:21:50< SekoIdiootti> [18:18]	<Blarumyrran>	Well Roar of the Woses sounds like a play of words on War of the Roses
20100621 17:21:54< SekoIdiootti> ^that I mean^
20100621 17:26:18< sevis> Is Roar of the Woses available for 1.8?
20100621 17:26:40< Hulavuta> http://piv.pivpiv.dk/
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20100621 17:30:13< SekoIdiootti> LOL, Hulavuta, that's so.. LOL
20100621 17:35:06< Hulavuta> I know
20100621 17:39:49< Hulavuta> I have a WML question
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20100621 17:46:58< Unnheulu> Hulavuta, swamp escape only has 1 scenario
20100621 17:47:01< Unnheulu> I played it yesterday
20100621 17:48:25< Hulavuta> I know
20100621 17:48:29< Hulavuta> I just played it now
20100621 17:48:58< Hulavuta> Can I ask you a question?
20100621 17:50:19< Unnheulu> Hmm
20100621 17:51:47< Unnheulu> Hulavuta, that's a yes
20100621 17:52:07< Hulavuta> How do think my campaign ranks up against the other Saurian ones? Be honest 
20100621 17:52:42< Unnheulu> Second best
20100621 17:52:49< Unnheulu> :)
20100621 17:53:01< Unnheulu> I've never done more than turn 4 or so in artistic dudes
20100621 17:53:23< Unnheulu> Swamp escape is just pure boring with only one scenario, will see about that later
20100621 17:53:27< Hulavuta> Which is the best? (Woses?)\
20100621 17:53:32< Unnheulu> Yeh
20100621 17:53:37< Hulavuta> =(
20100621 17:53:50< Hulavuta> Honestly, I don't agree
20100621 17:53:53< Unnheulu> Heh
20100621 17:54:03< Hulavuta> But you are entitled to your opinion
20100621 17:54:10< Unnheulu> I guess
20100621 17:54:10< Hulavuta> What do you think I can do to improve?
20100621 17:54:19< Unnheulu> Making the first map smaller
20100621 17:54:23< Hulavuta> ....
20100621 17:54:25< Hulavuta> What else?
20100621 17:54:55< Unnheulu> Well, I've not played past the first scenario =P
20100621 17:55:00< Hulavuta> Lol
20100621 17:55:00< Unnheulu> If I had to find another point though
20100621 17:55:06< Hulavuta> But you've played all of Woses?
20100621 17:55:10< Unnheulu> I guess the grass corridor at the start is a bit of a bottleneck
20100621 17:55:13< Unnheulu> Only to sc. 3
20100621 17:55:16< Unnheulu> I always lose that one
20100621 17:56:02< Hulavuta> Hmm, well if you try past the first scenario (debug n) maybe you'll change your mind?
20100621 17:56:09< Unnheulu> Perhaps
20100621 17:56:17< Unnheulu> I'll try it some other time :)
20100621 17:56:24< Hulavuta> Cool 8-)
20100621 18:07:15< Unnheulu> Hulavuta, was there ever a peace treaty between the orcs and the elves?
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20100621 18:22:26< Ivanovic> hi
20100621 18:27:17< Hulavuta> I don't think so
20100621 18:27:22< Hulavuta> I don't think so
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20100621 18:27:41< Hulavuta> I don't think so
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20100621 18:44:43< Hulavuta> e_S!!!
20100621 18:44:51< elvish_sovereign> Hulavuta!
20100621 18:45:03< Hulavuta> I need to ask you a deeply personal question
20100621 18:45:05< Hulavuta> Will...you...
20100621 18:45:12< Hulavuta> be my partner for the tournament?
20100621 18:45:13< Hulavuta> XD
20100621 18:45:20< elvish_sovereign> tahaha
20100621 18:45:30< elvish_sovereign> I guess, sure
20100621 18:45:37< Hulavuta> Lol thought  I was going to propose or something?
20100621 18:45:46< elvish_sovereign> Nah
20100621 18:45:59< Hulavuta> Dang
20100621 18:46:02< elvish_sovereign> I'm just not sure sure in the tournament is still on
20100621 18:46:41< elvish_sovereign> jonny's not replying
20100621 18:46:50< Hulavuta> I kno
20100621 18:48:03< Hulavuta> So,
20100621 19:08:00< Unnheulu> Hey es
20100621 19:08:06< elvish_sovereign> Hi
20100621 19:08:30< Unnheulu> D'ya know if the elves and the orcs ever had a peace treaty?
20100621 19:08:40< elvish_sovereign> NR?
20100621 19:08:48< Unnheulu> Hmm
20100621 19:09:00< Unnheulu> I haven't played that campaign, sc. 2 is too boring :P
20100621 19:09:06< elvish_sovereign> :)
20100621 19:09:14< elvish_sovereign> It's also discussed in THoT
20100621 19:09:17< Unnheulu> s/boring/tough\ >\.>/
20100621 19:09:26< Unnheulu> That campaign is legitimately too boring
20100621 19:09:55< elvish_sovereign> I haven't played any dwarvish campaigns
20100621 19:10:02< elvish_sovereign> not even add-ons
20100621 19:10:19< Unnheulu> D'ya know if they had a peace treaty though?
20100621 19:10:29< Unnheulu> You haven't even played Sof?
20100621 19:10:32< Unnheulu> SoF*
20100621 19:10:35< elvish_sovereign> nope
20100621 19:10:45< elvish_sovereign> but that's Landar and Kalenz's time
20100621 19:11:02< elvish_sovereign> Um...the Northern Alliance?
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20100621 19:11:10< elvish_sovereign> I thought that was humans, dwarves, orcs, and elves
20100621 19:11:27< Hulavuta> You can make up an alliance though
20100621 19:11:34 * Unnheulu wants to have the elves betraying the treaty
20100621 19:11:39< Unnheulu> Meh, I could just have a minor one
20100621 19:12:27< Hulavuta> I had an old campaign from CampGen that had Orcs and Elves in a co-op campaign on the same team
20100621 19:13:00 * Unnheulu wants to update campgen
20100621 19:13:13< Unnheulu> But elias insists I rebuild it from scratch, but I'm too lazy for that
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20100621 19:16:09< Hulavuta> Meh, CampGen isn't necessary...
20100621 19:16:27< Hulavuta> It requires you to know WML for the events anyway, it's just that you don't have to type it out
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20100621 19:16:38< Unnheulu> afk again
20100621 19:16:51< Hulavuta> ok
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20100621 19:23:38< Hulavuta> So,
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20100621 20:34:00< Hulavuta> hi
20100621 20:34:17< Espreon> Hello.
20100621 20:36:06 * Hulavuta can't think of a reply
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20100621 20:37:17< Unnheulu> I can
20100621 20:37:21< Unnheulu> Hullo
20100621 20:37:28< Unnheulu> Wait, wait! I has a better one
20100621 20:37:31< Unnheulu> Shwmae Espreon
20100621 20:37:53< Espreon> Oh God!
20100621 20:38:12< Hulavuta> wut
20100621 20:38:15< Espreon> Unnheulu: Ic grete þe.
20100621 20:38:46< Unnheulu> Dw i'n parle cymraeg, ddim americanaidd
20100621 20:39:06< Hulavuta> I see
20100621 20:39:17< Aethaeryn> Welsh?
20100621 20:39:25< Unnheulu> Yup
20100621 20:39:28< Aethaeryn> ah
20100621 20:39:36< Aethaeryn> I was trying to show my sister an example of welsh the other day
20100621 20:39:43< Aethaeryn> I had my phone so I searched with the youtube app
20100621 20:39:44< Espreon> Aethaeryn: Yell at him in some Slavic language.
20100621 20:39:47< Aethaeryn> one sec... I'll find the video
20100621 20:40:00< Unnheulu> Espreon, bah, I thought that was some secret American phrase
20100621 20:40:36< Espreon> Unnheulu: No, I was greeting you in Old English.
20100621 20:41:24< Aethaeryn> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usOg34kG-IA
20100621 20:41:30< Blarumyrran> Americans speak Old English all day long, you see
20100621 20:41:38< Unnheulu> Anyways, out cycling
20100621 20:41:42< Unnheulu> Bai
20100621 20:42:32< Hulavuta> I have a WML question
20100621 20:42:37< Espreon> Jeß?
20100621 20:42:48< Hulavuta> Does that mean "Yes"?
20100621 20:42:51< Aethaeryn> Unnheulu: see link above ^
20100621 20:43:00< Aethaeryn> (when you're back)
20100621 20:43:16< Espreon> Hulavuta: Jeß, that's a Germanized "yes".
20100621 20:43:19< Aethaeryn> http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/highlights/video/video=1253544/index.html
20100621 20:43:23< Aethaeryn> Also, North Korea got owned.
20100621 20:43:45< Blarumyrran> Kim Jong Il might be piß'd now
20100621 20:43:58< Blarumyrran> Damn I love Old English
20100621 20:44:03< Espreon> Blarumyrran: Uh...
20100621 20:44:09< Aethaeryn> North Korea now can't qualify
20100621 20:44:09< Espreon> Eszett doesn't belong to Old English.
20100621 20:44:18< Blarumyrran> ... yes, I was just trolling.
20100621 20:44:24< Aethaeryn> Portugal - Brazil will be interesting
20100621 20:44:32< Espreon> Blarumyrran: I see.
20100621 20:44:42< Aethaeryn> but I was kinda hoping to see North Korea win so they could play South Korea in the most awkward game of all time
20100621 20:44:43< Blarumyrran> So do I
20100621 20:45:16< Espreon> Noöne cares about the Dear Leader.
20100621 20:45:21< Hulavuta> What's the code to kill all the units on a particular side?
20100621 20:45:34< Blarumyrran> Aethaeryn, why awkward
20100621 20:45:43< Aethaeryn> I would love to see how North Korean press would spin a game against a nation that they probably don't admit exists.
20100621 20:45:53< Blarumyrran> Wut.
20100621 20:45:57< Espreon> Hulavuta: Uh... [kill]side=mu[/kill]
20100621 20:45:58< Blarumyrran> You're speaking nonsense.
20100621 20:45:59< Unnheulu> Aethaeryn, my english teacher was reading the results of the match out all lesson :)
20100621 20:46:02< Aethaeryn> Remember, North Korea is the last true Stalinist regime.
20100621 20:46:14< Blarumyrran> Aethaeryn, sources please
20100621 20:46:22< Blarumyrran> to " that they probably don't admit exists."
20100621 20:46:24< Espreon> Hulavuta: You see, [kill] has a built-in filter.
20100621 20:46:32< Hulavuta> Okay. I haven't done WML in a while , I forgot everything lol
20100621 20:46:49< Aethaeryn> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korea
20100621 20:46:59< Blarumyrran> Aethaeryn, quote
20100621 20:47:13< Blarumyrran> the passage that says the probably don't admit South Korea exists
20100621 20:47:22< Blarumyrran> they*
20100621 20:48:49< Aethaeryn> "Both North and South Korea claimed sovereignty over the peninsula as a whole, which led to the Korean War of 1950. A 1953 armistice ended the fighting; however, the two countries are officially still at war with each other, as a peace treaty was never signed."
20100621 20:49:02< Aethaeryn> Both sides claim the whole peninusla, and are still technically at war.
20100621 20:49:16< Aethaeryn> So in a purely de jure sense....
20100621 20:49:46< Unnheulu> Aethaeryn, you like politics don't you?
20100621 20:49:47< Blarumyrran> Oh, I thought you were saying North Korea probably doesn't admit that they don't control the whole peninsula
20100621 20:49:58< Aethaeryn> oh, no
20100621 20:50:24< Aethaeryn> de facto they have to negotiate (in part) with it to get things like trade with the international community.
20100621 20:50:38< Aethaeryn> But in a purely legal sense, I don't think they would recognize the country.
20100621 20:50:45< Aethaeryn> Unnheulu: No, actually, I hate politics.
20100621 20:51:52< Aethaeryn> I'm a "libertarian" (which I hear in Europe means "anarchist" but here in the US it means "classic liberal").
20100621 20:52:12< Aethaeryn> And we kinda lost out in the USA by the 1940s, never to have mainstream influence again.
20100621 20:52:20< Blarumyrran> I don't think it means anything in Europe
20100621 20:52:34< Aethaeryn> anyway, statists completely hijacked the term "liberal" here
20100621 20:52:36< Blarumyrran> I've never heard anyone use libertarian in a context that is both modern and non/US
20100621 20:52:42< Aethaeryn> so we Americans had to invent a new term.
20100621 20:52:43< Blarumyrran> non-US*
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20100621 20:53:11< Aethaeryn> brb
20100621 20:55:32< sevis> To the C++ gurus around here: I have classes a and b. Class a has an array of class b, but class b has a non-standard constructor. How can I set the arguments for this constructor (every element has unique ones)?
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20100621 21:11:02< Aethaeryn> back
20100621 21:11:26< Aethaeryn> Blarumyrran: so is there anything in your country politcally equivalent?
20100621 21:13:58< Blarumyrran> to classical liberal? Yes
20100621 21:14:15< Aethaeryn> Wait... are you Estonian or Latvian? I can't remember
20100621 21:14:30< Aethaeryn> I just remember you're Baltic but not Lithuanian, since I'd remember if you were a distant cousin of mine.
20100621 21:14:39< Blarumyrran> Estonian
20100621 21:15:15< Aethaeryn> oh, South Finland ;)
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20100621 21:18:31< Aethaeryn> http://www.heritage.org/index/Country/Estonia
20100621 21:18:32< Aethaeryn> oooh
20100621 21:18:44< Aethaeryn> 7th in the region, above Finland
20100621 21:19:21< Aethaeryn> and 16th in the world
20100621 21:20:10< Aethaeryn> North Korea is 179th with a score of just 1.0
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20100621 21:22:52< Aethaeryn> Blarumyrran: so is Estonia a nice place to live?
20100621 21:25:58< Blarumyrran> I wouldn't know, I haven't been abroad enough
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20100621 21:38:44 * pyshee would like to tell everyone that he is a Ninja-Farmer.
20100621 21:39:56< Aethaeryn> careful
20100621 21:40:06< Aethaeryn> don't set yourself up for a pirate ambush
20100621 21:40:23< pyshee> a Ninja-Farmer can take on any pirate ambush!
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20100621 21:47:48< Hulavuta> Hi
20100621 21:48:13< Zen_Clark> http://www.byond.com/ Isn't one of the pictures on the image to the left a screenshot of Wesnoth?
20100621 21:49:14< Blarumyrran> No
20100621 21:49:21< knotwork> what kind of fertilizer do you use to raise ninjas?
20100621 21:49:23< Blarumyrran> It looks square-gridded
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20100621 21:49:25< Hulavuta> Probably it's a screenshot of a game that copied wesnoth
20100621 21:50:01< Zen_Clark> O.k.
20100621 21:50:15< Blarumyrran> Maybe that godawful MMORPG
20100621 21:50:37< Blarumyrran> That one had square grid
20100621 21:51:35< Zen_Clark> O,k,
20100621 21:51:56< Zen_Clark> I did not notice the shape of the grid in the image.
20100621 21:52:17< Hulavuta> Meh, the picture was blurry anyway, not your fault.
20100621 21:55:45< Zen_Clark> Yeah.
20100621 21:56:04< Zen_Clark> Thanks.
20100621 21:56:18< Hulavuta> Lol
20100621 21:57:37< Hulavuta> Are you new?
20100621 21:59:09< Hulavuta> Going to church now bye all
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20100621 22:06:48< pyshee> knotwork: Ninja seeds are planted into the soil, then sunlight and water does the rest. no fertilizer needed.
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