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20100726 01:23:23< CIA-87> alink * r44685 /trunk/src/ana/src/ (6 files): Fix path to ana.hpp (seems needed for out-of-src build)
20100726 01:31:06< billynux> thanks alink 
20100726 01:32:36< alink> np
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20100726 02:32:12< CIA-87> alink * r44686 /trunk/src/ (35 files in 11 dirs): 
20100726 02:32:12< CIA-87> Clean the use of @todo for Doxygen
20100726 02:32:12< CIA-87> Use ///@todo bla or /** @todo bla */ with lowercase and no colon after todo
20100726 02:32:18< CIA-87> alink * r44687 /trunk/src/ (8 files in 4 dirs): Use Doxygen command "@deprecated 1.9.2" to indicate what need to be removed and when
20100726 02:32:20< CIA-87> alink * r44688 /trunk/doc/doxygen/doxygen.cpp: 
20100726 02:32:20< CIA-87> Add deprecated page in main page of documentation (after todo).
20100726 02:32:20< CIA-87> Link to http://devdocs.wesnoth.org/deprecated.html
20100726 02:32:58< shadowmaster> alink: I see you've been heavily influenced by mordante's mass-commit habits.
20100726 02:33:27< alink> indeed, 35 files is a lot for me
20100726 02:33:46< alink> but there was much todo <:o)
20100726 02:34:13< billynux> :)
20100726 02:35:08< alink> mordante: I think we should simply use @file   instead or @file bla.hpp.   The first do the work for us and prevent human error
20100726 02:35:14< shadowmaster> an idea for a drinking game: take a sip whenever you find a FIXME or TODO in the documentation.
20100726 02:35:22< shadowmaster> er, code, not documentation.
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20100726 02:35:58< billynux> alink, I always screw up after @file due to documentation
20100726 02:36:13< billynux> shadowmaster, I would be very drunk bu now (if I look at network_ana.cpp)
20100726 02:36:26< alink> billynux: what do you mean ?
20100726 02:36:28< shadowmaster> :p
20100726 02:37:02< billynux> alink, I always copy/paste the doxygen headers into a new file, and forget to update after @file old-file-name.Xpp
20100726 02:37:39< alink> yeah that's an example of human error, using simple "@file" should fix that
20100726 02:37:43< billynux> shadowmaster, however, surprising as it may be, there are a bunch of not-implemented methods but the network API still works, so... the methods were deprecated (or dead code) to begin with
20100726 02:37:53< alink> here another example http://devdocs.wesnoth.org/html/mapbuilder__visitor_8hpp-source.html#l00016
20100726 02:38:03< alink> where there is a @file mapbuilder_visitor.h
20100726 02:38:12< alink> (instead of hpp)
20100726 02:38:33< billynux> :) classic
20100726 02:39:15< alink> and Doxygen also report warning about missing subdirectories when there is several files with the dame name like @file action.cpp (instead of foo/actions.cpp, or nothing)
20100726 02:39:24< alink> s/dame/same
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20100726 02:42:03< alink> mordante: does the server write a doxygen log somewhere when it generate the doc. And if yes, it should be public.
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20100726 02:44:29< billynux> :@ !!! Executable: kate PID: 3451 Signal: 11 (Segmentation fault) -> my editor crashed
20100726 02:44:56< alink> maybe you type too fast or too much ;)
20100726 02:46:40< alink> I wonder what is the maximal encoding speed and what is the bottleneck (to get it visible on screen and assuming superhuman speed)
20100726 02:48:07< alink> well, there is probably a big delay needed when hitting the same key twice
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20100726 02:48:23< billynux> I think coding is pretty much the same as talking... or commenting on YouTube, you should make sure your output is better than silence (not typing) :)
20100726 02:49:15< billynux> unfortunately I have a tendency to work/type pretty fast
20100726 02:49:25< billynux> which sometimes takes its toll on quality :(
20100726 02:49:49< alink> if you debug fast, that's compensate ;)
20100726 02:50:17< alink> well, sort of, it still hurt readability 
20100726 02:51:33< billynux> alink, I would like to think my code is readable enough, my mistakes mostly come from times where I say... "hm... could the bug be here? I'll just flip this > to a < and see what happens..."
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20100726 02:51:50< billynux> without even thinking about what I'm doing :)
20100726 02:54:05< alink> I see, my problem is more losing time deciding which one is better, when using != is enough
20100726 02:55:16< alink> premature optimization etc...
20100726 02:55:56< alink> I also dislike long code when there is a shorter way to do it
20100726 02:56:39< alink> and it's sometimes a waste to rewrite it shorter when the long version is done
20100726 02:57:39< billynux> indeed
20100726 02:57:47< alink> OtOH I love writing quick dirty prototype :-)
20100726 03:00:22< billynux> yes... but nothing beats a well thought and clear code
20100726 03:00:36< billynux> but the rush is in getting stuff working :)
20100726 03:01:48< alink> for the final result yes. But yeah, it's fun to get it something somehow working just by plugging random code in bad places
20100726 03:02:12< alink> polishing nice code is fun too, but a different fun.
20100726 03:02:51< alink> (there is probably a good analogy here with other artistic creations)
20100726 03:03:20< Elvish_Pillager> the AnimationWML page on the wiki is really difficult to read / incomplete...
20100726 03:03:31< alink> boucman^
20100726 03:04:24< Elvish_Pillager> ...I was going to follow that up with a question, but I've already forgotten it. :o
20100726 03:06:08< billynux> all right, I'm off, pizza time!
20100726 03:06:17< alink> Elvish_Pillager: the answer was 42
20100726 03:06:20< CIA-87> billynux * r44689 /trunk/src/ana/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Improved the documentation for the new network API to look more like doxygen, thus closer to the final result, it is incomplete though. Also moved the error definitions to common.hpp and added an operation_aborted error.
20100726 03:06:33< billynux> alink, it always is :)
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20100726 09:02:39< timotei> morning
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20100726 09:03:05< billynux> morning timotei, it's 4am here though
20100726 09:03:19< shadowmaster> 3:03 am here
20100726 09:03:31< billynux> ...and winter, so not quite the sunny morning yet :)
20100726 09:03:36< shadowmaster> that's still morning, though.
20100726 09:03:42< timotei> oh :P
20100726 09:04:21< billynux> shadowmaster, I'm reading "Ines del Alma Mia", a great book on the story of the colonization of Chile!
20100726 09:04:52< shadowmaster> oh
20100726 09:05:07 * shadowmaster fails at national history.
20100726 09:05:14< timotei> =))
20100726 09:05:29 * billynux too... (on Argentina anyway)
20100726 09:06:02< timotei> ah, I don't remember the title of a very cool book on maya 
20100726 09:06:18< timotei> so I would suggest you to read
20100726 09:07:28< billynux> let me know if you do
20100726 09:09:22< timotei> grrr... the minister is taking 1 vacation week just because the school starting day (1st of October) is on fridayX(
20100726 09:11:07< billynux> and this upsets you why?
20100726 09:11:20< timotei> well, I want vacation...
20100726 09:11:21< timotei> :P
20100726 09:12:12< billynux> I'm a little burnt out myself
20100726 09:14:42< timotei> well... it seems I have to go to the library for the book, although I can't remember the exact title/author, I still know the exact place where I can find it :D
20100726 09:20:10< CIA-87> shadowmaster * r44690 /trunk/data/campaigns/Delfadors_Memoirs/ (2 files in 2 dirs): 
20100726 09:20:11< CIA-87> Make Lionel's portrait in Delfador's Memoirs story screens the same as
20100726 09:20:11< CIA-87> his unit portrait since there doesn't seem to be a current higher-res
20100726 09:20:11< CIA-87> version available. (Fixes bug #16295)
20100726 09:21:54< CIA-87> shadowmaster * r44691 /branches/1.8/data/campaigns/Delfadors_Memoirs/ (2 files in 2 dirs): 
20100726 09:21:55< CIA-87> Make Lionel's portrait in Delfador's Memoirs story screens the same as
20100726 09:21:55< CIA-87> his unit portrait since there doesn't seem to be a current higher-res
20100726 09:21:55< CIA-87> version available. (Fixes bug #16295)
20100726 09:21:55< CIA-87> (Backported from trunk, r44690.)
20100726 09:21:57< shadowmaster> no, I'm not writing changelog entries for such a trivial bugfix.
20100726 09:22:44< shadowmaster> good night
20100726 09:24:40< CIA-87> billynux * r44692 /trunk/src/ana/new-wesnoth-network-api.hpp: More improvement on the documentation for the new network API.
20100726 09:25:33< billynux> g'night Ignacio
20100726 09:37:52< CIA-87> billynux * r44693 /trunk/src/ (7 files in 5 dirs): Change a method name in ANA to make things more symmetrical. s/handle_message/handle_receive/. Suggestion by Crab_.
20100726 09:52:04< CIA-87> billynux * r44694 /trunk/doc/ana/description.tex: Apply the aforementioned method rename to ANA's LaTeX document too.
20100726 09:55:13< billynux> I'm off too
20100726 09:55:16< billynux> night
20100726 09:55:18< timotei> bye billynux 
20100726 09:55:29< timotei> does anyone know by chance if the notebook's touchpad is made of nickel?
20100726 09:55:37< billynux> I surely don't
20100726 09:56:06< billynux> how is the final stretch of GSoC for you timotei?
20100726 09:56:14< timotei> final strecth?:P
20100726 09:56:21< billynux> last part
20100726 09:56:23< timotei> well, there is still aprox 20 days
20100726 09:56:29< timotei> well, striving to do my best:D
20100726 09:56:33< billynux> :)
20100726 09:56:53< timotei> you finished the most part?
20100726 09:56:57< billynux> do you think you will accomplish your original goals?
20100726 09:57:08< timotei> don't know yet:-?
20100726 09:57:29< timotei> my extra exam weeks 'destroyed' my original plans...
20100726 09:57:39< billynux> hm... I would say yes, some stills I have yet to do, but I'm trying to focus my energy on redoing the API now (which wasn't part of the original proposal)
20100726 09:58:01< billynux> but did you succeed in your exams?
20100726 09:58:29< timotei> well, still one managed to fail (second time)
20100726 09:58:31< billynux> I'm pretty sure the goal of GSoC is not to interfere with your studies
20100726 09:58:39< billynux> :(
20100726 09:58:39< timotei> I need to try again one examn
20100726 09:58:45< billynux> about?
20100726 09:58:48< timotei> I'm not in the mood of starting learning ... but I try
20100726 09:58:51< timotei> Special mathematics
20100726 09:58:51< timotei> :))
20100726 09:58:59< billynux> "Special" ?
20100726 09:59:02< timotei> although the course is interesting
20100726 09:59:09< timotei> Complex analysis and transforms
20100726 09:59:10< timotei> :)
20100726 09:59:18< billynux> ... sigh...
20100726 09:59:22< timotei> laplace, Z, fourier, distributions
20100726 09:59:25< billynux> if only my students would learn such things
20100726 09:59:26< billynux> :(
20100726 09:59:37< timotei> you teach this?
20100726 09:59:41< billynux> Engineering student learn FFT, etc... not in CS though :(
20100726 09:59:55< billynux> timotei, no, I teach basic programming
20100726 09:59:59< timotei> oh
20100726 10:00:02< billynux> (first year, introductory material)
20100726 10:00:28< billynux> I want to move on to functional programming, program proving/derivation
20100726 10:00:38< billynux> Data Structures, something ELSE! :D
20100726 10:00:43< timotei> oh
20100726 10:00:44< timotei> yeah
20100726 10:00:54< billynux> first year suckz big time! :( 
20100726 10:01:01< timotei> yeah... pretty much
20100726 10:01:03< billynux> (due to my bosses mostly)
20100726 10:01:13< timotei> well, me just finished the 1st year
20100726 10:01:24< billynux> You can still do cool stuff with introductory knowledge, but this is not our case
20100726 10:01:36< timotei> I'm on CS but I still learn 5 types of maths 2 physics and electrical engineering
20100726 10:01:41< timotei> like they'll help me
20100726 10:01:52< billynux> damn, Laplace, Fourier is pretty good for first year, how old are you?
20100726 10:01:58< timotei> 20
20100726 10:02:00< timotei> :P
20100726 10:02:02< billynux> :)
20100726 10:02:17< billynux> Do you learn group theory, universal algebras, etc?
20100726 10:02:34< billynux> lattices, boolean algebras, etc..
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20100726 10:02:42< timotei> linear algebra
20100726 10:02:47< timotei> yeah yeah
20100726 10:02:51< timotei> 1st semester
20100726 10:02:56< billynux> that's the kind of math a CS student needs
20100726 10:03:01< timotei> true
20100726 10:03:24< billynux> timotei, linear algebra is not what I mean :)
20100726 10:03:34< billynux> that can help you for computational geometry
20100726 10:03:44< timotei> the course is named linear algebra, but be learned: group theory, latices
20100726 10:04:02< timotei> boolean algebra at the digital system design
20100726 10:04:08< billynux> ah, ok
20100726 10:04:15< timotei> s/be/we
20100726 10:04:22< billynux> pretty good :)
20100726 10:04:36< billynux> Our curriculum needs revision, and we need better teachers :)
20100726 10:04:41< Ivanovic> moin
20100726 10:04:54< billynux> hi Ivanovic, didn't parse that
20100726 10:05:02< timotei> hi Ivanovic 
20100726 10:05:19< timotei> well, we are CS but learn both soft+hard
20100726 10:05:23< timotei> at least the intro part
20100726 10:05:43< billynux> great, I presume you have computability theory later on
20100726 10:05:51< billynux> that's where it gets very cool :D
20100726 10:06:00< timotei> hmm
20100726 10:06:09< timotei> what does that handle with?
20100726 10:06:41< billynux> well... can you build me a function that takes a program (code) as argument and decides if it always finishes?
20100726 10:06:57< timotei> oh
20100726 10:07:30< timotei> nice
20100726 10:07:38< timotei> well, I don't know how to handle that yet:P
20100726 10:07:48< timotei> http://ac.utcluj.ro/index.php/licenta.124.html here is our curricula: Curricula CTI 2009/2010  	-Computer Science: year1, year2, year3  si year4.
20100726 10:07:56< billynux> read some Hartley Rogers Jr. :)
20100726 10:08:02< timotei> ok
20100726 10:08:16< timotei> but I have some other plans after gsoc
20100726 10:08:24< timotei> do a microcontroller on 8 bit
20100726 10:08:24< billynux> although... your teachers seem to be doing fine by you :)
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20100726 10:08:38< timotei> learn before time some asm
20100726 10:08:51< timotei> and learn before time some Numerical analysis
20100726 10:08:59< timotei> so I won't fail again at maths :))
20100726 10:09:03< billynux> :)
20100726 10:09:13< billynux> well, you look more EE inclined
20100726 10:09:24< timotei> maybe I'm just lazy, I don't learn in the year's time
20100726 10:09:28< billynux> but I disregard low level stuff :)
20100726 10:09:29< timotei> EE = electrical engineering?
20100726 10:09:32< billynux> yeah
20100726 10:09:35< timotei> no thanks
20100726 10:09:36< timotei> :P
20100726 10:09:49< timotei> I'm doning thing we will do next year
20100726 10:09:57< timotei> so it will be easier to learn advanced stuff
20100726 10:10:23< billynux> good, I approached things this way too, and worked out fine
20100726 10:10:57< billynux> all right, gotta go to bed, take care now, see ya'
20100726 10:11:04< timotei> ok
20100726 10:11:05< timotei> bye bye
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20100726 10:13:44< CIA-87> silene * r44695 /trunk/src/game_events.cpp: Moved choice synchronization to a lazy pattern.
20100726 10:13:58< CIA-87> silene * r44696 /trunk/src/ (game_events.cpp replay.cpp replay.hpp): Generalized user input handling.
20100726 10:14:01< CIA-87> silene * r44697 /trunk/src/game_events.cpp: 
20100726 10:14:01< CIA-87> Merged all user inputs in a single tag.
20100726 10:14:01< CIA-87> It avoids mixing numeric input with advancement choice.
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20100726 10:19:54< silene> Ivanovic: do you have a 1.8.3 tarball at hand to check whether the toplevel files of the various build systems are present? http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=30902
20100726 10:20:51< Ivanovic> silene: if they are in the svn, they are in the tarball
20100726 10:20:58< Ivanovic> the tarball these days is an svn snapshot
20100726 10:21:19< Ivanovic> as in: running svn export, tar on this folder, compressing it, ...
20100726 10:21:27< silene> Ivanovic: that's what i would have thought; but the guy is explicitly saying that some files from the svn are not in the tarball
20100726 10:22:00< silene> (but since i don't have the tarball, and my connection is quite bad, i haven't checked)
20100726 10:23:07< Ivanovic> will do once i am really awake
20100726 10:23:47< timotei> silene: the tarball with the source from the website?
20100726 10:23:59< timotei> http://sourceforge.net/projects/wesnoth/files/wesnoth/wesnoth-1.8.3.tar.bz2/download this one?
20100726 10:24:07< silene> i suppose so
20100726 10:24:08< timotei> I can download it quick and check if you need
20100726 10:24:52< timotei> ok, in 5 minutes is downloaded
20100726 10:25:22< silene> please then, and check whether it contains autogen.sh, CMakeLists.txt, and SConstruct, all at toplevel
20100726 10:25:30< timotei> ok
20100726 10:26:05< timotei> silene: btw, activated debug symbols when compiling wesnoth. it seems it's faster as normal:P
20100726 10:26:16< timotei> didn't know why I thought it would run slower
20100726 10:38:12< timotei> ok... it's in there
20100726 10:39:12< timotei> silene, Ivanovic : http://imagebin.org/106805
20100726 10:39:48< silene> great, thanks
20100726 10:39:55< timotei> np
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20100726 11:29:14< timotei> hmm, why are those little colored pixels near the sprites ? http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/download/file.php?id=40864
20100726 11:30:15< zookeeper> to be able to more quickly sample the colours used
20100726 11:30:23< timotei> ooh, right
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20100726 11:35:32< timotei> zookeeper: btw, what does your avatar represent?
20100726 11:36:49< zookeeper> it's a secret
20100726 11:37:04< zookeeper> sorry ;)
20100726 11:37:54< timotei> oh, ok:D
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20100726 11:52:42< CIA-87> silene * r44698 /trunk/src/ (dialogs.cpp game_events.cpp replay.cpp replay.hpp): Generalized user input synchronization further.
20100726 11:52:46< CIA-87> silene * r44699 /trunk/src/game_events.cpp: Generalized user synchronization to arbitrary config objects.
20100726 11:52:51< CIA-87> silene * r44700 /trunk/src/game_events.cpp: Merged all the functions to reduce their footprint.
20100726 11:52:54< CIA-87> silene * r44701 /trunk/src/game_events.cpp: Fixed sound playing for the wrong player and during fast replays.
20100726 11:53:04< CIA-87> silene * r44702 /trunk/src/game_events.cpp: Used the MP synchronization framework for [message] too.
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20100726 12:08:30< zookeeper> silene, hmmh, is there a way in lua to check for the boolean value of a key in an identical way to how the game usually does it?
20100726 12:08:44< silene> zookeeper: what do you mean?
20100726 12:09:29< zookeeper> well, i mean that usually i can use bonus=yes|1|true or no|false|0
20100726 12:09:53< zookeeper> but how do i turn something like "if obj.bonus == "yes" then" into accepting any boolean value like that?
20100726 12:10:26< silene> it's already taken care of, just don't use string comparison: "if obj.bonus then"
20100726 12:10:43 * zookeeper headdesks
20100726 12:10:44< zookeeper> right, of course
20100726 12:11:12< Elvish_Pillager> that's not equivalent, is it?
20100726 12:11:26< Elvish_Pillager> e.g. wml considers 1 true and 0 false, but lua doesn't
20100726 12:11:46< Elvish_Pillager> I wrote my own "boolean_equals_true" function just in case
20100726 12:12:06< silene> note that wml no longers consider 1 and 0 to be booleans in trunk (they are integers), so it's equivalent now
20100726 12:12:21< zookeeper> okay
20100726 12:12:45< Elvish_Pillager> it's also not equivalent if you carelessly assign a string boolean value in Lua ;-)
20100726 12:12:56< zookeeper> i'm trying to see if i can make [objectives] support a [gold_carryover] tag so i wouldn't need to keep overloading the poor note= key with all the gold/AIcontroller/etc notes
20100726 12:13:26< silene> that being said, it's not completely equivalent, due to the way lua interprets nonboolean value; in particular, if obj.bonus = "crap", it will evaluate to true
20100726 12:14:15< silene> zookeeper: a priori, it should be possible
20100726 12:14:17< Elvish_Pillager> silene: and also, lua can't tell the difference between the WML variable values "true", "on", and "yes" ?
20100726 12:15:34< CIA-87> ivanovic * r44703 /trunk/po/wesnoth-units/vi.po: updated Vietnamese translation
20100726 12:15:38< CIA-87> ivanovic * r44704 /branches/1.8/po/wesnoth-units/vi.po: updated Vietnamese translation
20100726 12:16:24< silene> Elvish_Pillager: it can't, they all are true; note that the engine doesn't either (systematically in trunk, randomly in 1.8), so you would get only "yes" and "no" after a while
20100726 12:16:36< zookeeper> will >0 integers evaluate to true?
20100726 12:17:28< silene> zookeeper: everything except false and nil evaluate to true in lua; and if you are asking about the engine, integers are ignored if a strict boolean is expected
20100726 12:17:47< zookeeper> right, ok, thanks
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20100726 12:28:39< silene> hmm... seems like i broke the tutorial with the synchronization thing; it no longer asks for konrad or li'sar
20100726 12:29:18< silene> the choice happens too early and the engine assumes that it can be synchronized among all the clients
20100726 12:29:33< silene> cannot*
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20100726 12:30:54< silene> Elvish_Pillager: since you have been experimenting with synchronization, do you know if the start event is properly synchronized?
20100726 12:31:11< Elvish_Pillager> silene: I don't know about "start" in particular
20100726 12:31:49< CIA-87> fendrin * r44705 /trunk/data/campaigns/Legend_of_Wesmere/maps/ (11 files): LoW: Map overhaul.
20100726 12:32:27< CIA-87> fendrin * r44706 /trunk/data/campaigns/Delfadors_Memoirs/maps/ (9 files): DM: Map overhaul.
20100726 12:33:15< silene> Crab_: we had some questions for you; is it possible to register an AI engine on the fly? (if so, how?); the goal is to be able to have a Lua engine defined by an era, so you don't have access to the early [side]
20100726 12:34:06< zookeeper> win_objectives = win_objectives .. color_prefix(0, 255, 0) .. insert_before_nl(obj.description, "</span>") .. "\n"
20100726 12:34:06< zookeeper> win_objectives = win_objectives .. color_prefix(0, 255, 0) .. obj.description .. "</span>" .. "\n"
20100726 12:34:16< zookeeper> silene, what's the difference between those two exactly?
20100726 12:35:47< silene> zookeeper: the call to the insert_before_nl function (i somehow think that wasn't your question); this function ensures that only the first line is colored, since that was the behavior in 1.6
20100726 12:36:32< zookeeper> a-ha...
20100726 12:36:45< zookeeper> actually i think that's unwanted behaviour
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20100726 12:37:23< zookeeper> it was always annoying to write multi-line objective strings, because you had to prefix the other lines with colouring markup...i think
20100726 12:37:25< silene> i don't care when one or the other; i just choose the backward-compatible way, but i agree it is a bit ugly
20100726 12:37:30< timotei> elias: hi :)
20100726 12:37:47< silene> zookeeper: don't hesitate to remove it along the way
20100726 12:37:53< elias> hi timotei 
20100726 12:38:06< timotei> that optionparser = optparse.OptionParser() is part of python?
20100726 12:38:11< Crab_> silene: I need to try that. Architecture should support that via [modify_ai] call from within any [event], but I don't remember exactly if that was implemented.
20100726 12:38:20< elias> timotei: yes
20100726 12:38:38< zookeeper> silene, ok...i might do that if i find myself writing multi-line objectives again ;)
20100726 12:38:41< Crab_> silene: the goal is to add lua ai components to side if it's played with a specific era ?
20100726 12:38:51< timotei> ok
20100726 12:39:12< elias> timotei: it ensures that all python command-line utilities have consistent behavior
20100726 12:39:17< timotei> right
20100726 12:39:27< timotei> elias: ood job they've done:P
20100726 12:39:28< elias> (not weird things like -p and --preprocess working in different ways :P)
20100726 12:39:31< timotei> s/ood/good
20100726 12:39:34< silene> Crab_: yes, Elvish_Pillager has an era (a complex one), and he may try to customize the AI for it
20100726 12:39:56< timotei> well, what works in different ways?
20100726 12:40:03< timotei> elias: mybe we can improve it
20100726 12:41:24< elias> not sure, but i was confused by where to place =
20100726 12:42:03< elias> don't have wesnoth or the source here at work and don't really remember how it works
20100726 12:42:59< timotei> well, wesnoth --help tells you:)
20100726 12:43:37< elias> yeah, but i don't have it here :P
20100726 12:43:49< elias> i think it's confusing
20100726 12:44:01< elias> but maybe it was just not how i expected it
20100726 12:44:13< timotei> how'd you expect it then?
20100726 12:44:29< CIA-87> silene * r44707 /trunk/src/ (game_events.cpp replay.cpp replay.hpp): Moved MP synchronization framework to replay, so that it can be used elsewhere.
20100726 12:44:33< zookeeper> silene, gold_carryover = gold_carryover .. color_prefix(255, 255, 192) .. obj.carryover_percentage .. _"% of gold carried over to the next scenario." .. "</span>" <--- strangely, the last > seems to get clipped off. the objectives dialog tells me the text contains invalid markup and the > is missing there, and the same thing in the savefile.
20100726 12:44:38< CIA-87> silene * r44708 /trunk/data/campaigns/tutorial/scenarios/1_Tutorial.cfg: 
20100726 12:44:38< CIA-87> Moved the character selection later, so that it isn't skipped.
20100726 12:44:38< CIA-87> Whether the 'start' event is synchronizable is yet to be decided.
20100726 12:45:03< elias> i'd move the defines into an extra parameter i guess
20100726 12:45:47< silene> zookeeper: strange
20100726 12:46:09< zookeeper> silene, i'll post the complete patch, just a sec...
20100726 12:46:48< timotei> elias: yeah, that could be... done
20100726 12:47:01< timotei> I should do that
20100726 12:47:19< timotei> elias: pas don't allow ',' right?
20100726 12:47:23< timotei> s/pas/paths
20100726 12:47:46< elias> don't think so
20100726 12:48:40< zookeeper> silene, http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/EHVB4xxz (there's still other things to fix in it, but i can't figure out what causes this bug)
20100726 12:49:31< zookeeper> it does result in exactly the right text, just that last > seems to be missing...
20100726 12:50:31< Crab_> silene: looking at the source, it looks like that the code to support dynamic modification of "engine" components via [modify_ai]  was implemented. I'll try to test a sample era which modifies default_ai to include a lua hello-free-world candidate action and a lua hello-free-world stage
20100726 12:51:10< silene> zookeeper: i don't see anything wrong at first glance; i will test test later this afternoon
20100726 12:52:30< zookeeper> silene, all right. now i changed that "</span>" to "</span>hello", and that results in "hell" at the end of the string
20100726 12:52:54< zookeeper> i'll just use that as a workaround for now...
20100726 12:53:34< timotei> elias: well... if I change that hope I don't break existing tools by modifying it's behaviour
20100726 12:53:46< timotei> elias: who else than wmlparser2 use the -preprocess?
20100726 12:54:54< elias> no idea
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20100726 13:32:33< Elvish_Pillager> silene: does lua have a convenient way to make default values, like some languages that use "foo() or 2" as an expression that evaluates to foo() usually and 2 if foo() returns nil?
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20100726 13:42:45< silene> Elvish_Pillager: yes, foo() or 2
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20100726 13:43:38< Elvish_Pillager> huh. I misread this page in the documentation.
20100726 13:43:41< Elvish_Pillager> okay, thanks :o
20100726 13:44:55< silene> zookeeper: look at the last line of generate_objectives, it removes the last character of the text; it was fine till now, since the code is written in such a way that the last character was always a '\n' (hence why it was removed)
20100726 13:45:46< silene> so either improve the last character removal so that it happens only when needed, or just add a dummy '\n' after your </span>
20100726 13:49:22< silene> zookeeper: in fact, it depends whether you want the gold carryover to be on the same line as the other notes; if not, then the '\n' is not dummy but mandatory
20100726 13:55:33< silene> Crab_: great, thanks
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20100726 13:57:14< Crab_> silene: I'm at work atm, so it won't happen until late evening, but I'll try to check it out today.
20100726 13:58:13< zookeeper> silene, got it
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20100726 14:33:03< CIA-87> silene * r44710 /trunk/src/game_events.cpp: Fixed nonsensical error message.
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20100726 15:16:36< timotei> elias: umm... it's correct writing:             self.parent_node[-1].append(node) in python?
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20100726 15:26:55< timotei> silene: thanks for fixing the 'clicking on the map before starting a scenario' bug:P
20100726 15:28:34< CIA-87> timotei * r44711 /trunk/utils/java/eclipse_plugin/src/wesnoth_eclipse_plugin/ (3 files in 3 dirs): 
20100726 15:28:34< CIA-87> eclipse plugin: avoid collisions for files with the same name
20100726 15:28:34< CIA-87> by putting the preprocessed files in it's own project's directory
20100726 15:28:49< CIA-87> timotei * r44712 /trunk/utils/java/eclipse_plugin/src/wesnoth_eclipse_plugin/utils/WorkspaceUtils.java: eclipse plugin: use a better name for log names
20100726 15:29:08< CIA-87> timotei * r44713 /trunk/utils/java/eclipse_plugin/META-INF/MANIFEST.MF: eclipse plugin: update the plugin-s version
20100726 15:29:25< CIA-87> timotei * r44714 /trunk/utils/java/eclipse_plugin/ (6 files in 5 dirs): 
20100726 15:29:25< CIA-87> eclipse plugin: add preference page for wmltools:
20100726 15:29:25< CIA-87> wmlscope, wmllint, wmlindent
20100726 15:29:35< silene> timotei: which bug?
20100726 15:29:58< CIA-87> timotei * r44715 /trunk/utils/java/plugin_feature/feature.xml: eclipse plugin: update the version in the feature
20100726 15:30:07< timotei> silene: well, when the mission loaded, there was the map and the 'back' 'forward' and 'skip' buttons
20100726 15:30:09< CIA-87> timotei * r44716 /trunk/utils/java/eclipse_plugin/ (6 files in 5 dirs): eclipse plugin: add options for wesnoth addon uploader
20100726 15:30:18< timotei> if you had clicked on the map you'd got an error
20100726 15:30:19< timotei> :P
20100726 15:30:30< CIA-87> timotei * r44717 /trunk/utils/java/eclipse_plugin/ (readme/README.tex src/wesnoth_eclipse_plugin/Logger.java): eclipse plugin: change a bit the log location
20100726 15:30:34< CIA-87> timotei * r44718 /trunk/utils/java/eclipse_plugin/src/wesnoth_eclipse_plugin/ (4 files in 3 dirs): eclipse plugin: add the dryrun options to wmlindent
20100726 15:30:35< CIA-87> timotei * r44719 /trunk/utils/java/eclipse_plugin/src/wesnoth_eclipse_plugin/Logger.java: eclipse plugin: create the folder if it doesn't exist.
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20100726 15:40:53< timotei> fendrin: hi. around?
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20100726 15:53:56< fendrin> timotei: hi
20100726 15:54:14< timotei> fendrin: how are you doing?
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20100726 16:02:18< fendrin> timotei: I am stressed. Still an exam this week.
20100726 16:02:30< timotei> wow, exams in the middle of summer?:D
20100726 16:02:36< timotei> or are some specials exams
20100726 16:04:05< timotei> fendrin: I was about to finish fixing other remaining things from the release, so I'll be ready to start the next parts of the proposal. An I was wondering if you have some preferences on what to start working on.
20100726 16:04:24< timotei> fendrin: or, if there's anything else to be done before starting the next parts
20100726 16:05:26< fendrin> timotei: Can you set reasonable presets in the preferences menu? Maybe you find a way to determine the OS and guess the right paths?
20100726 16:05:52< fendrin> ls
20100726 16:05:55< timotei> fendrin: you're talking about wesnoth's path?
20100726 16:05:59< fendrin> right
20100726 16:06:03< fendrin> and the .wesnoth
20100726 16:06:06< fendrin> directory
20100726 16:06:15< timotei> well... ok, I think that could be done
20100726 16:06:21< fendrin> or whatever it is named on other operating systems.
20100726 16:06:29< fendrin> cool
20100726 16:06:44< timotei> well... widnows and linux cases
20100726 16:06:49< timotei> I think that's enough for them
20100726 16:06:56< fendrin> mac is more important.
20100726 16:07:03< timotei> oh, and mac...
20100726 16:07:05< fendrin> mac users tend to be stupid and gay.
20100726 16:07:08< timotei> silene: XDG is on mac too?
20100726 16:07:16< timotei> silene: that new paths
20100726 16:07:29< timotei> fendrin: should I use the new way silence put the paths?
20100726 16:07:38 * fendrin hides behind an IPhone.
20100726 16:07:39< silene> timotei: given that X stands for X server, i somehow doubt it
20100726 16:07:51< timotei> oh. ok
20100726 16:08:53< fendrin> timotei: Java offers some "system properties" maybe you can read useful information from them.
20100726 16:08:55< timotei> damn, and I couldn't setup a mac in VM so I can test it:(
20100726 16:08:59< timotei> fendrin: yes.
20100726 16:09:26< timotei> ok, hope my bro will borrow his notebook >:)
20100726 16:09:33< timotei> inspiron 1525 handles mac very good
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20100726 16:13:16< timotei> fendrin: ok, so after doing the preset directories... anything else?
20100726 16:22:22< fendrin> timotei: Yes, I don't like the way the preferences have to be used.
20100726 16:23:11< timotei> oh, the 'you have to complete' all fields?
20100726 16:23:23< timotei> well, ok. I could just warn the user but let him save them:P
20100726 16:24:05< timotei> fendrin: but even though, they *should* fill all values so the plugin will work from start to end :P
20100726 16:25:30< fendrin> timotei: I would prefer if the right dialogues came up automatically when the plugin is first started (or the view is loaded) the "Setup workspace" would be called implicitely if everything is filled in right.
20100726 16:27:03< timotei> fendrin: well... 1 - I cannot load the plugin when I want  - that's eclipse's way
20100726 16:27:28< timotei> So,it will load only when one of its components are called
20100726 16:27:57< timotei> but I'll look into it
20100726 16:28:51< fendrin> timotei: cool, I think you can find a hook to trigger the right stuff somewhere.
20100726 16:29:03< timotei> fendrin: well, ti was already done, at startu
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20100726 16:29:19< timotei> but I removed it because of some stackoverflow errors when checking the .. preferences..
20100726 16:29:34< timotei> I'll ask again on eclipse's chat to see if I can get it done
20100726 16:30:11< fendrin> Thank you :-)
20100726 16:30:29< timotei> well, no need to thank. I just need to do the right things :P
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20100726 16:30:46< timotei> you'll be online later?
20100726 16:30:59< timotei> Jst in case I finish this 2 things fast?
20100726 16:31:02< timotei> s/Jst/just
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20100726 16:31:23< timotei> in the meantime trying to install mac:P
20100726 16:32:05< timotei> stupid apple with his stupid licenses
20100726 16:32:20< timotei> I wish bill smashed steve's head once for all
20100726 16:32:59< timotei> s/once for all/once and for all
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20100726 16:41:42< fendrin> timotei: Yes, I will be around later. But not very responsive until thursday.
20100726 16:41:52< timotei> ok
20100726 16:42:09< timotei> fendrin: should I start then on what I want from the 4 part?
20100726 16:58:53< fendrin> timotei: Sure, feel free to do so. You are not my slave.
20100726 16:59:13< timotei> ok
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20100726 18:14:17 * alink has fixed his gpu fan problem :-)
20100726 18:14:51< timotei> how?:D
20100726 18:15:20< alink> opened the radiator, removed the defective fan and put a big case fan blowing on it (radiator still open). 
20100726 18:15:37< alink> without even optimizing fan position, it's already much colder than when the old fan worked ok
20100726 18:15:53< timotei> :))
20100726 18:15:54< timotei> nice:P
20100726 18:17:27< alink> yeah was needed the fan was really failing, since yesterday it became harder to start and sometimes temperature was 10 degrees higher for no reason
20100726 18:19:43< alink> but I am glad that I have *better* cooling, instead of "just ok". Maybe one day, I will try some overclocking
20100726 18:20:59< timotei> :))
20100726 18:21:06< timotei> if you don't  need it, better not
20100726 18:21:43< alink> yeah I don't need it now, maybe in few years
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20100726 18:24:01< alink> when wesnoth and its big full OpenGL engine will need it ;-p
20100726 18:25:02< timotei> :))
20100726 18:25:10< timotei> I wonder when we will move on OGl
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20100726 18:26:36< alink> Perhaps more we wait, less it's needed. Soon all computers will be fast enough to handle simple SDL fine
20100726 18:27:20< alink> Or just wait the release of a SDL 1.3
20100726 18:27:35< timotei> well, is SDL more 'overheaded' than OGL?
20100726 18:29:02< alink> yes, since drawing is more expensive, cpu must work more to minimize redraw
20100726 18:29:25< alink> and of course, OGL move more drawing operations to the GPU
20100726 18:30:01< timotei> oh
20100726 18:30:21< alink> some special effects are also made possible/easier with OGL
20100726 18:31:44< alink> I saw that SDL 1.3 has new OpenGL functions. And, for example, the IPhone port uses SDL 1.3
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20100726 19:11:38< CIA-87> silene * r44720 /trunk/src/ (filesystem.cpp filesystem.hpp): Fixed reference binded to a temporary, possibly the cause of the failure on ark.
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20100726 19:13:09< boucman> hey all
20100726 19:17:09< silene> argl, that wasn't supposed to be committed...
20100726 19:17:36< timotei> rever commit :P
20100726 19:17:58< timotei> s/rever/revert
20100726 19:18:54< silene> no, i don't think it is worth reverting either, we will see
20100726 19:19:02< noy> .. anybody see the news just 30 minutes ago?
20100726 19:19:48< CIA-87> thespaceinvader * r44721 /trunk/ (16 files in 3 dirs): Add and wire new Spearman se attack anim by Major. Remove a deprecated image. Update changelogs.
20100726 19:20:09< thespaceinvader> noy: what news?
20100726 19:20:18< noy> jailbreaking is illegal
20100726 19:20:45< noy> err
20100726 19:20:49< thespaceinvader> jailbreaking iPods, i presume
20100726 19:20:59< thespaceinvader> jailbreaking jails always was ;)
20100726 19:21:03< thespaceinvader> but yeah, errr
20100726 19:21:05< noy> jailbreaking isn't illegal, and yes, but that is for all online products
20100726 19:21:45< noy> wow, I've really flubbed this
20100726 19:21:50< noy> Jailbreaking is now legal
20100726 19:22:07< noy> http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010/07/26/technology/AP-US-TEC-Digital-Copyright.html?hp
20100726 19:22:37< thespaceinvader> OOOH right
20100726 19:22:50< thespaceinvader> yeah, that little 'il' really affects how we take the news :P
20100726 19:23:17< noy> yes
20100726 19:23:53< timotei> yeye, good news
20100726 19:23:55< elias> ah, so can now just release GPL wesnoth on iphone, along with a (legal) description how to run it :)
20100726 19:24:06< timotei> :))
20100726 19:24:09< timotei> yeah
20100726 19:24:39< boucman> elias: something tells me that if we add a "jailbreaking howto" to iphone port, it won't be accepted... we can add it to wesnoth.org though :P
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20100726 19:24:57< timotei> :))
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20100726 19:25:27< silene> hmm... putting \0 as the first character of a bracketed macro name caused wesnoth to crash my computer; and it's reproducible
20100726 19:25:51< boucman> apple must be quite unhappy right now...
20100726 19:27:14< silene> people encoding their .cfg files as utf16 are in for a lot of pain
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20100726 19:44:27< shadowmaster> silene: crash your *computer*?
20100726 19:44:59< shadowmaster> how could that be possible?
20100726 19:45:26< silene> shadowmaster: yep, instant memory flood and constant kernel calls; that seems to confuse the oomkiller and the process didn't get kill until the computer was beyond recovery
20100726 19:45:44< elias> wow
20100726 19:46:03< elias> Rhonda should send one of those security advisals if it is also in 1.8 :P
20100726 19:46:18< shadowmaster> you could have discussed this in the private channel.
20100726 19:46:27< shadowmaster> s/co/sho/
20100726 19:46:39< silene> it isn't a security issue, only preprocessed things are sent over the network
20100726 19:46:56< silene> you can't remotely crash a computer with that
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20100726 19:47:02< shadowmaster> yes, but add-ons are preprocessed on the host.
20100726 19:47:13< shadowmaster> and add-ons can be obtained from the add-ons server.
20100726 19:47:33< boucman> maybe switchin to the private chan now is a good idea :P
20100726 19:47:55< timotei> :))
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20100726 20:01:33< AI0867> silene: some kind of issue with trying to open a filename of zero length?
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20100726 20:06:40< Unnheulu> Uh? Svn won't compile
20100726 20:06:55< Unnheulu> Reckons it can't find flags to link with the Boost system
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20100726 20:24:25< loonycyborg> Unnheulu: Probably you need to install boost-system-dev or whatever.
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20100726 20:24:55< Unnheulu> r44540 compiled fine though...
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20100726 20:26:49< timotei> Unnheulu: it will give you the name of the unfound lib;)
20100726 20:27:05< loonycyborg> New dependencies were added.
20100726 20:27:09< Unnheulu> Aj
20100726 20:27:11< Unnheulu> *ah
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20100726 20:32:03< Unnheulu> Works now, thanks
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20100726 20:32:23< timotei> there are no hard things in the world
20100726 20:32:30< timotei> just need to RTFM and everything will be ok:D
20100726 20:32:42< Unnheulu> No it doesn't =D
20100726 20:32:47< timotei> ok, some experimentation could help
20100726 20:32:51< timotei> why not?
20100726 20:33:05< Unnheulu> Same error^^ I'll try reconfiguring
20100726 20:33:23< Unnheulu> Failing that, make clean, and failing that researching synaptic
20100726 20:34:08< loonycyborg> In addition to boost.system, boost.thread was added.
20100726 20:34:29 * loonycyborg is annoyed that Debian decided to dismember boost like that
20100726 20:35:05< Unnheulu> Ubuntu has done the same (with teh native packages)
20100726 20:35:06< timotei> yeah, boost.thread
20100726 20:36:09< Unnheulu> Kay, thanks
20100726 20:39:34< billynux> loonycyborg, consider the alternative, boost is a behemoth :)
20100726 20:40:13< loonycyborg> Not really. Especially the library binaries..
20100726 20:43:25< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: because Ubuntu is a Debian derivative
20100726 20:43:37< Unnheulu> shadowmaster, I noticed...
20100726 20:43:39< shadowmaster> anyway, protip: don't discuss these things with Gentoo users.
20100726 20:43:44< shadowmaster> they don't understand us ;)
20100726 20:43:59< Unnheulu> Ooh, there's a Gentoo user in our midst?
20100726 20:44:08< shadowmaster> loonycyborg
20100726 20:44:13< timotei> there are more than 1
20100726 20:44:52< timotei> but, what they don't understand?:P
20100726 20:45:00< shadowmaster> everything
20100726 20:45:02< timotei> (no flame war intended)
20100726 20:45:15< shadowmaster> everything about binary distributions that are usable OOB.
20100726 20:45:28< timotei> well,.... who doesn't like binary things?
20100726 20:45:42< timotei> I think everyone doe
20100726 20:45:44< timotei> s/doe/does
20100726 20:46:07< Unnheulu> Python users?
20100726 20:46:15< Unnheulu> Converting python to a binary is just...eww
20100726 20:46:21< timotei> ha??
20100726 20:46:22< timotei> :))
20100726 20:47:12< timotei> Unnheulu:what'sthe definition of "converting <programming language> to a binary"??
20100726 20:47:30< Unnheulu> timotei, like turning your python code into a .deb, or a .exe
20100726 20:48:18< timotei> umm... ok... if you say so
20100726 20:48:20< loonycyborg> There are ways to make an .exe from python..
20100726 20:48:33< Unnheulu> loonycyborg, yeah, but its a pain
20100726 20:48:39< timotei> why?
20100726 20:48:46< loonycyborg> Though why would one actually do that is anyone's guess..
20100726 20:49:06< Unnheulu> School not having python installed is reason enoguh imo
20100726 20:49:09< Unnheulu> *enough
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20100726 20:49:28< timotei> well, py->exe just embeedds the python interpretor... I think
20100726 20:49:47< timotei> but ok..
20100726 20:50:03 * timotei goes to do some complex analysis ....
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20100726 21:33:26< mordante> servus
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20100726 21:36:13< mordante> alink the doxygen log isn't public, but I don't mind to do some testing + cleaning up
20100726 21:36:37< mordante> alink good tip regarding @file, cleaned up at work already :-)
20100726 21:36:44< mordante> will look at Wesnoth now
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20100726 21:45:30< Elvish_Pillager> Hmm. Poisoned units aren't color-shifted exactly, are they? Is there any image mod that replicates the poison effect?
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20100726 22:04:06< Rhonda> noy: That's great news!
20100726 22:04:15< noy> it somewhat is.
20100726 22:04:34< noy> They can still brick phones... and they could challenge this legally
20100726 22:04:52< noy> but it could go the other way and they may actually lose the right to brick phones as a result
20100726 22:06:17< noy> because if the copyright office affirmed the right of owners to own their phones and do what they please, then apple can't easily brick the phone to make it unusable. 
20100726 22:07:57< noy> then again I haven't read the statement directly so I don't know
20100726 22:11:45< AI0867> Elvish_Pillager: the red and blue channels are dropped to zero
20100726 22:11:55< AI0867> this is hardcoded in the engine
20100726 22:11:58< Elvish_Pillager> oh, CS should be able to replicate that then
20100726 22:12:30< AI0867> line 436 in src/unit_animation.cpp
20100726 22:16:19< AI0867> yes, ~CS(-255,0,-255) should do the job
20100726 22:16:22< AI0867> or something similar
20100726 22:19:04< boucman> FYI it's hardcoded in the engine because I consider it a "gameplay significant" animation, so I don't let WML tweak it
20100726 22:19:11< boucman> invisible is hardcoded too
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20100726 22:45:35< Unnheulu> Ugh
20100726 22:45:44< Unnheulu> The whiteboard is switching on at the start of each turn
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20100726 22:54:49< boucman> hmmm
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20100726 23:16:40< mordante> billynux, why is stats_logger::secs_to_reset_ a double?
20100726 23:16:55< billynux> hi mordante 
20100726 23:17:04< mordante> hi billynux 
20100726 23:17:12< billynux> hm... why not?
20100726 23:18:00< billynux> ms_to_reset may not be a multiple of 1000
20100726 23:19:27< mordante> my compiler complains about it ;-)
20100726 23:19:47< mordante> what do you mean with `ms_to_reset may not be a multiple of 1000'
20100726 23:20:33< billynux> mordante, well... in this case it always is
20100726 23:20:56< billynux> but in general you can set timeouts to ana::time::milliseconds(500) + ana::time::hours(1)
20100726 23:21:09< billynux> which is not an integer number of seconds
20100726 23:21:20< CIA-87> silene * r44722 /trunk/src/scripting/lua.cpp: Added a Lua function for playing sound files.
20100726 23:21:51< CIA-87> silene * r44723 /trunk/ (data/lua/wml-tags.lua src/game_events.cpp): Moved implementation of [sound] to Lua.
20100726 23:21:51< CIA-87> silene * r44724 /trunk/src/gui/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Added an entry point for creating unregistered windows.
20100726 23:21:51< CIA-87> silene * r44725 /trunk/src/scripting/lua.cpp: Added Lua function for displaying dialog boxes.
20100726 23:21:51< CIA-87> silene * r44726 /trunk/data/scenario-test.cfg: Added a test for custom dialogs.
20100726 23:22:44< billynux> mordante, change stats.hpp:70 to "secs_to_reset_( double(ms_to_reset) / 1000.0)," ?
20100726 23:23:23< Crab_> loonycyborg: scons complains about not being able to successfully use asio - can you drop a hint about which package to install ? http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/hJjpGxbX
20100726 23:25:47< loonycyborg> Crab_: Those functions are from pthreads api.
20100726 23:26:25< billynux> asio needs pthreads
20100726 23:26:38< Crab_> billynux: how can I install/enable them on debian ?
20100726 23:26:44< mordante> billynux, I can silence the warning locally using an old one, just wondered about the double
20100726 23:26:54< mordante> s/one/compiler/
20100726 23:27:26< billynux> Crab_, -lpthread to link, I don't know about installation, I'm guessing that boost::thread uses them, so installing boost-thread-dev worked
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20100726 23:27:38< loonycyborg> Crab_: Maybe -pthread flag will fix it.
20100726 23:28:17< Crab_> billynux: libboost-thread-dev is installed, will try the link flag then...
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20100726 23:28:45< billynux> mordante, did the warning come up in that line (stats.hpp:70)? if so, did my proposed fix fix the warning? if so, commit it :)
20100726 23:29:19< mordante> will test in a sec
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20100726 23:32:49< CIA-87> mordante * r44727 /trunk/src/ (296 files in 25 dirs): 
20100726 23:32:49< CIA-87> Update doxygen comment.
20100726 23:32:49< CIA-87> The filename after the @file comment is optional (spotted by alink).
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20100726 23:34:08< CIA-87> billynux * r44728 /trunk/src/ana/new-wesnoth-network-api.hpp: 
20100726 23:34:08< CIA-87> Some improvements to the new proposed network API, the handler has default dummy
20100726 23:34:08< CIA-87> implementations of the methods to handle network events, this will allow
20100726 23:34:08< CIA-87> handlers to selectively implement only the handlers for the methods it wishes.
20100726 23:34:09< billynux> mordante, 296 files :D
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20100726 23:34:32< mordante> billynux, that is wat git told me as well :-P
20100726 23:34:37< billynux> mordante, now, you are just bugging me to recompile the whole thing :D
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20100726 23:35:58 * mordante loves ccache 
20100726 23:37:31< loonycyborg> Crab_: sdl-config adds -lpthread for me. It doesn't seem to do so for you for some reason..
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20100726 23:39:48< CIA-87> espreon * r44729 /trunk/data/core/images/units/human-loyalists/ (12 files): Ran umcpropfix.
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20100726 23:42:12< mordante> billynux, you change doesn't work
20100726 23:42:20< mordante> but I'm off now, night
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20100726 23:42:32< mordante> the problem is not really important anyways
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20100726 23:42:54< billynux> mordante, ok
20100726 23:42:58< billynux> I'm off too, night
20100726 23:43:14< mordante> ok night
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