--- Log opened Tue Jul 06 00:00:56 2010
20100706 00:05:32 * Espreon disappears...
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20100706 00:19:20 * shadowmaster vaporizes Espreon 
20100706 00:19:32< Espreon> shadowmaster: You meanie!
20100706 00:19:57 * Espreon enters shadowmaster's lungs
20100706 00:22:38< shadowmaster> LOL what?
20100706 00:22:46< shadowmaster> electronic cigarettes?
20100706 00:23:13< Blueblaze> shadomaster: what is yebatero
20100706 00:23:24< shadowmaster> no idea
20100706 00:23:40< Blueblaze> yerbatero* sorry
20100706 00:23:43< Espreon> shadowmaster: Well, you vaporized me.
20100706 00:23:45< shadowmaster> and I'm shadowmaster, not shadowmaster
20100706 00:24:01< shadowmaster> I mean, I'm shadowmaster, not shadowmanster
20100706 00:24:03< Blueblaze> not shadomaster
20100706 00:24:04< shadowmaster> I mean, I'm shadowmaster, not shadomaster
20100706 00:24:07< Blueblaze> lol
20100706 00:24:18< shadowmaster> just use tab-completion the next time
20100706 00:24:22< Blueblaze> I did
20100706 00:24:28< shadowmaster> fail
20100706 00:24:32< Blueblaze> It's just it caused problems because you had shadowm_laptop 
20100706 00:24:42< shadowmaster> then tab twice
20100706 00:24:48< shadowmaster> alternatively
20100706 00:24:54-!- shadowm_laptop is now known as i_am_not_shadowm
20100706 00:24:55< Blueblaze> yerbatero
20100706 00:24:58< Blueblaze> kk
20100706 00:25:00< Blueblaze> thanks :D
20100706 00:25:06< Valkier> shadowmister: Why are you so zaney?
20100706 00:25:27< shadowmaster> Valkier: and you?
20100706 00:25:59< shadowmaster> why are you here instead of working on some hot elvish babes' portraits?
20100706 00:26:01< Valkier> shadowmister: I can see forever!
20100706 00:28:41< shadowmaster> OMFG artisticdude and I agree on something for the first time ever!
20100706 00:28:51< shadowmaster> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=440493#p440493
20100706 00:29:08< elvish_sovereign> LOL
20100706 00:30:17< Valkier> That's a terrible job anyhow.,
20100706 00:31:44 * Blueblaze needs to dl Wesnoth's latest version and Wesnoth UMC DEV
20100706 00:33:11< shadowmaster> HOW DO I DOWNLOADED WESNOTH UMC DEV?
20100706 00:33:26< Valkier> Guys
20100706 00:33:26 * Espreon laughs
20100706 00:33:29< shadowmaster> hint: this is a repository, not a software distribution
20100706 00:33:29< Valkier> How do I Wesnoth?
20100706 00:33:42< Blueblaze> Valkier: www.howdoiwesnoth.com
20100706 00:35:22< shadowmaster> Iceweasel can't find the server at www.howdoiwesnoth.com.
20100706 00:35:25< Blueblaze> shadowmaster: what should I make?
20100706 00:35:32< Blueblaze> in WESNOTH 
20100706 00:36:00< shadowmaster> dunno
20100706 00:36:03< shadowmaster> you had some RPG project
20100706 00:36:05< Blueblaze> right
20100706 00:36:09< shadowmaster> you gathered some artwork
20100706 00:36:23< Blueblaze> My ambitions desired something MMOisk
20100706 00:36:42< Blueblaze> so I quit because my ambitions were unrealistic
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20100706 00:37:18< Espreon> Why so Scandanavian?
20100706 00:37:22< shadowmaster> Wesnoth is unrealistic
20100706 00:37:42< shadowmaster> wait...no, that's not quite right
20100706 00:37:42< shadowmaster> I mean, Wesnoth Is Not Realistic.
20100706 00:38:35< Gambit> But when your units die they're not alive in IRL!
20100706 00:38:46< Gambit> So you must be careful.
20100706 00:39:26< Gambit> http://forums.wesnoth.org/download/file.php?id=42720&t=1
20100706 00:39:35< Blueblaze> I want to make something with a lot of Spanish in it
20100706 00:39:37< Gambit> real life is brown
20100706 00:39:56< shadowmaster> Gambit: yes.
20100706 00:40:03< shadowmaster> ;(
20100706 00:41:18< shadowmaster> OMFG
20100706 00:41:21< Gambit> thankfully that is just a variant
20100706 00:41:28< shadowmaster> TSI has hit the Elvish treehouses' thread!
20100706 00:41:29< Gambit> We're going to have a lot more terrains in 1.9
20100706 00:41:43< Gambit> shadowmaster: He hit it? Soungs gangy.
20100706 00:41:47< Blueblaze> spanishy
20100706 00:41:57< Gambit> *sounds
20100706 00:42:19< Gambit> I wonder what the bounty was on that thread.
20100706 00:42:39< Gambit> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=30581&start=90
20100706 00:42:43< Gambit> shadowmaster: keel eet
20100706 00:43:02< Gambit> he made innuendo!
20100706 00:44:03< Gambit> or did he? http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AccidentalInnuendo
20100706 00:44:20< shadowmaster> I didn't get it
20100706 00:44:40< shadowmaster> hot and wet weather?
20100706 00:45:00< shadowmaster> since when chick == weather?
20100706 00:47:21< shadowmaster> it's time to pick on gambit's statements
20100706 00:47:44< Gambit> two can play that game
20100706 00:47:51< Gambit> actually I guess I already was :P
20100706 00:48:24< shadowmaster> 18:46:27 <Gambit> Carneus: And the documentation for wesnoth is the best I have ever seen.
20100706 00:48:47< Gambit> shadowmaster: I left out the fact that I've not read the documentation for very many video games' custom langauges :D
20100706 00:49:13< Gambit> In fact... only 3 that I can think of off-hand.
20100706 00:50:37< shadowmaster> have you ever read any kind of software documentation?
20100706 00:50:53< shadowmaster> glibc's documentation is way bettter than Wesnoth's crap
20100706 00:51:43< Gambit> shadowmaster: do my SQL, PHP, CSS, and CFML references count?
20100706 00:51:50< Gambit> wait those aren't software
20100706 00:51:54< Gambit> WML isn't software...
20100706 00:51:56< Gambit> I'm confused.
20100706 00:51:57< shadowmaster> THEY ARE
20100706 00:52:04< Gambit> Are they?
20100706 00:52:09< shadowmaster> PHP IS SOFTWARE
20100706 00:52:16< shadowmaster> SQL IS SOFTWARE
20100706 00:52:20< Valkier> Meh
20100706 00:52:21< shadowmaster> CFML IS SOFTWARE
20100706 00:52:31< Valkier> I think elf girl has the pirkiest breasts in the world at the moment. :-P
20100706 00:52:33< shadowmaster> CSS isn't, however.
20100706 00:53:01< shadowmaster> CSS is more like a standard. Okay, SQL kinda falls into that category too until you get to vendor-specific stuff.
20100706 00:53:37< shadowmaster> the WML documentation is the documentation ot the interface of the Wesnoth game engine
20100706 00:53:44< shadowmaster> *to the public interface
20100706 00:53:52< shadowmaster> so it counts as software documentation
20100706 00:55:14 * Espreon is happy...
20100706 00:55:26< Espreon> ... for the implementation of siphon is going well...
20100706 00:55:42< Espreon> ... and now... food...
20100706 00:56:59< Gambit> I need a free windows IRC client with searchable logs.
20100706 00:57:25< AI0867> irssi + grep
20100706 00:57:28< shadowmaster> you want a free windows IRC client that writes logs to plain text files and lets you use an actual text editor to do stuff with it
20100706 00:57:32< shadowmaster> yeah, irssi also works
20100706 01:00:04< Blueblaze> shadowmaster: what are your opinions on Wesnoth RPGs in general?
20100706 01:00:40< shadowmaster> nil
20100706 01:00:48< Blueblaze> are there any you like?
20100706 01:01:05< shadowmaster> I haven't tried any in the first place.
20100706 01:01:08< shadowmaster> and I don't see myself trying to do that anytime soon.
20100706 01:01:43< Gambit> Blueblaze: shadowmaster doesn't like non-core content in general
20100706 01:01:48< Gambit> Except for Breaking Ground :P
20100706 01:01:50< Blueblaze> dont; care
20100706 01:02:00< Gambit> okay let me rephrase
20100706 01:02:07< Gambit> I need a free graphical IRC client with searchable logs :\
20100706 01:02:13< Blueblaze> k much better
20100706 01:02:37< shadowmaster> Gambit: you want a free graphical IRC client that writes logs to plain text files and lets you use an actual text editor to do stuff with it
20100706 01:02:50< Blueblaze> shadowmaster: so a game that takes place in a fantasy like Iberia might be quite fun, don't you agree?
20100706 01:02:54< Blueblaze> Probably not, but that's okay
20100706 01:03:01< Blueblaze> I just want an excuse to put Spanish sounding things in the game
20100706 01:03:07< shadowmaster> iberia?
20100706 01:03:09< shadowmaster> Spain?
20100706 01:03:11< shadowmaster> wtf
20100706 01:03:12< Blueblaze> yes
20100706 01:03:25< shadowmaster> Iberia was/is a real world location
20100706 01:03:34< Espreon> Blueblaze: Please drop the Spanish fetish, for it is getting creepy.
20100706 01:03:43< Blueblaze> never
20100706 01:03:45< Blueblaze> shadowmaster: yes
20100706 01:03:47< shadowmaster> Espreon: yay! \o/
20100706 01:03:47< Blueblaze> I am aware
20100706 01:04:03< shadowmaster> OMFGWTFBBQ SYMBOLISM!!!!
20100706 01:04:39< shadowmaster> http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic
20100706 01:05:30< Gambit> whaddafuck? Apparnetly I don't have permission to delete this stupid thing now
20100706 01:06:01< Gambit> oh well that would be beccause closing it doesn't actually close it...
20100706 01:06:21< Gambit> good show irssi
20100706 01:06:49< Blueblaze> hmm
20100706 01:06:57< Blueblaze> I need a good story for a campaign
20100706 01:10:02< Valkier> shadowmaster: All right. I worked more on naked elf chick. Here ya go. http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/364/eryssalarge.png
20100706 01:10:07< Espreon> So, Blueblaze, what do you think of Mountain, one of our awesome states?
20100706 01:10:20< Blueblaze> Mountain?
20100706 01:10:37< Espreon> If you don't get it, then go burn yourself.
20100706 01:10:54< Blueblaze> I get it, but I choose not to refer to it as that
20100706 01:11:53< Valkier> Unfortunately I can't really post it on the forums for critique. :-P
20100706 01:12:23< Blueblaze> Espreon: I needs a ñ for me to refer to it
20100706 01:12:37< Gambit> I bet I could make my own IRC client in coldfusion...
20100706 01:12:54< Gambit> but you can't minimize a web browser to the task bar so it would be sucky
20100706 01:13:11< Gambit> and last time I tried that it took up outrageous amounts of ram
20100706 01:13:34< Gambit> (apparently flushing data from server to webpage is very memory intensive)
20100706 01:13:52< Espreon> Blueblaze: Just call it "Mountain".
20100706 01:14:08< Espreon> Right shadowmaster?
20100706 01:29:38< Gambit> hmm quassel puts logs in an SQLite database...
20100706 01:29:59< Gambit> There's a JDBC driver for that.
20100706 01:30:17< Espreon> Almost done with the basic concept...
20100706 01:31:41< Gambit> ergo coldfusion server can connect to irc logs
20100706 01:31:52< Gambit> We're saved!
20100706 01:33:00< Gambit> If I can just figure out where the "driver" goes...
20100706 01:38:19<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7381 /trunk/The_Silver_Lands/macros/abilities.cfg: TSL: add first version of siphon; range = L is not yet supported.
20100706 01:43:03< Gambit> GAY!
20100706 01:43:11< Gambit> The log database is password protected.
20100706 01:43:21< Gambit> username and password
20100706 01:43:25< Gambit> except I don't have one :\
20100706 01:44:58< Gambit> I hear colloquy keeps its logs in xml
20100706 01:45:02< Gambit> that's better than this crap
20100706 01:46:32< Gambit> oh it's not for windows :\
20100706 01:47:35 * Blueblaze has colloquy
20100706 01:47:40 * Blueblaze is currently using colloquy
20100706 01:47:50< Blueblaze> iPhone and Macbook Pro sync
20100706 01:49:10< Gambit> So apparently windows doesn't have a free graphical irc client with easy to search logs.
20100706 01:51:30< Gambit> Well actually pidgin meets all those requirements
20100706 01:51:39< Gambit> but it lacks some key features that I'm rather addicted to now
20100706 01:52:30< Blueblaze> so
20100706 01:52:42< Blueblaze> spanards must fight off the evil demonic monsters 
20100706 01:52:42< Gambit> Apparently when putting quassel on linux it asks you to choose a username and password.
20100706 01:52:43< Blueblaze> from Afric
20100706 01:52:45< Blueblaze> Africa
20100706 01:52:55< Blueblaze> Gambit: sounds good?
20100706 01:53:10< Gambit> Blueblaze: RACISM!
20100706 01:53:22< Gambit> (just kidding)
20100706 01:53:25< Gambit> Blueblaze: CAPCOMISM!
20100706 01:53:46< Blueblaze> k sleep time
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20100706 02:02:29<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7382 /trunk/The_Silver_Lands/macros/abilities.cfg: TSL: stopped the engine from bitching about indexed containers being used as wrong WML types.
20100706 02:12:31<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7383 /trunk/The_Silver_Lands/units/elementals/ (4 files): TSL: added the Void Orb line.
20100706 02:14:39< Espreon> AI0867: ^ if you wanna play with siphon... yeahz...
20100706 02:15:43< Espreon> Crap.
20100706 02:15:50<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7384 /trunk/The_Silver_Lands/units/elementals/ (8 files): TSL: ran umcpropfix.
20100706 02:16:08< Espreon> I forgot that I had some unfinished work in there...
20100706 02:16:10< Espreon> Oh well...
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20100706 04:48:31 * Gambit is officially Eleazar's number one fan...
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20100706 06:12:02< Espreon> Aethaeryn: I'm bored, entertain me.
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20100706 06:17:13< Aethaeryn> Espreon: http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/cm4hf/sean_hannity_deemed_too_uncivil_and_not_fact/
20100706 06:17:19< Aethaeryn> see my comments in #Wesnoth-music 
20100706 06:17:30< Aethaeryn> That's entertainment right there
20100706 06:17:37< Espreon> Aethaeryn: Would you please play with siphon?
20100706 06:21:07< Aethaeryn> not in the mood to play...
20100706 06:21:11< Aethaeryn> just haven't been for days
20100706 06:21:21< Aethaeryn> been playing no-thinking-required games and kinda are through with those now too
20100706 06:21:28< Espreon> But, it's siphon!
20100706 06:21:55< Blueblaze> What is siphon
20100706 06:22:49< Espreon> An ability that I created a few hours ago.
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20100706 06:29:04< Blueblaze> I want to play
20100706 06:34:50< Espreon> But, you need 1.9.
20100706 06:34:55< Espreon> Well...
20100706 06:36:03< Espreon> Well, if you can get TSL past 1.8's preprocessor, then you could play with siphon.
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20100706 06:45:53< Aethaeryn> Espreon: OMFG!
20100706 06:46:01< Aethaeryn> THE INTERNET IS OVER!
20100706 06:46:15< Aethaeryn> TOO MUCH NUMBERS! NOT GOOD!
20100706 06:46:24< Aethaeryn> http://www.boingboing.net/2010/07/05/prince-the-internets.html
20100706 06:46:39< Aethaeryn> and the internet's reaction: http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/cm840/prince_the_internets_completely_over/
20100706 06:47:02< Blueblaze> hey shadowm_laptop 
20100706 06:47:04< Blueblaze> no
20100706 06:47:05< Blueblaze> see
20100706 06:47:10< Blueblaze> that's why I like shadomaster
20100706 06:47:13< Blueblaze> hey shadowmaster 
20100706 06:49:17< Blueblaze> how do you feel about small party campaigns
20100706 06:49:24< Blueblaze> Where you only control a very small band of units which rarely changes
20100706 06:55:27< Aethaeryn> Blueblaze: I think they're cool.
20100706 06:55:36< Aethaeryn> See Underlands RPG
20100706 06:55:44< Aethaeryn> 3rd scenario in progress, just not uploaded
20100706 06:55:52< Blueblaze> who created Underlands RPG
20100706 06:56:03 * Aethaeryn 
20100706 06:56:09< Aethaeryn> I'm a shameless self-promoter
20100706 06:56:11< Aethaeryn> you should know that by now.
20100706 06:56:25< Aethaeryn> If I did something remotely similar to the task on hand, I'll point it out
20100706 06:57:31< Blueblaze> I'll try it out
20100706 06:57:37< Blueblaze> maybe
20100706 06:57:45< Blueblaze> What version of Wesnoth is it for?
20100706 07:00:56< Blueblaze> 1.8.x right?
20100706 07:01:07< Aethaeryn> yeah, but I haven't done the 3rd scenario yet
20100706 07:01:14< Aethaeryn> also, it takes a REALLY long time if you take the side routes
20100706 07:01:17< Aethaeryn> and explore everything
20100706 07:02:14< Blueblaze> Is it MP or SP?
20100706 07:02:45< Aethaeryn> mp
20100706 07:02:50< Blueblaze> rats
20100706 07:02:53< Aethaeryn> but will soon make it convertable to SP
20100706 07:03:14< Aethaeryn> as in, it's 3P (though I've played it all locally) but when it's done I'll clean up its macros so it can be done with only one actual player.
20100706 07:03:26< Blueblaze> yeah I think I'll do that
20100706 07:03:29< Blueblaze> play it locally to see
20100706 07:03:32< Aethaeryn> (I haven't only played it locally, but i've played through it all locally)
20100706 07:03:35< Blueblaze> I should have Wesnoth installed
20100706 07:03:40< Aethaeryn> (since it's a lot easier to do it hotseat)
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20100706 07:25:50< timotei> morning
20100706 07:26:01< Espreon> Good morning.
20100706 07:29:59< timotei> bah, I have to defragment my harddrive:|
20100706 07:30:56< Espreon> I hope that we're talking about an NTFS partition.
20100706 07:31:57< shadowmaster> how many times
20100706 07:32:18< shadowmaster> I have said that it's rarely useful to defragment Windows filesystem volumes
20100706 07:32:24< shadowmaster> in my experience using FAT32 and NTFS volumes
20100706 07:33:25< Espreon> Hmmmm... the Moon is a bit yellow-reddish...
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20100706 08:00:34<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7385 /trunk/The_Silver_Lands/macros/abilities.cfg: TSL: added support for 'siphon' animations; made it so that the affectees' defense animations are played when their HP is drained.
20100706 08:00:55< Espreon> AI0867: ^ for some reason, the defense animations aren't played...
20100706 08:01:03< Espreon> Would you please investigate?
20100706 08:01:33< Espreon> I tested siphon animations, and they play.
20100706 08:13:05< timotei> we'll, yes, it's A NTFS
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20100706 12:33:33< AI0867> Espreon, shadowmaster: UtBS's dark tiles have been mainlined.
20100706 12:33:59< AI0867> this leaves us two choices: use the mainline ones (possibly bugging eleazar about the art)
20100706 12:34:12< AI0867> or change the symbol of our own and make it a different terrain
20100706 12:45:58< Aethaeryn> wait, so Espreon just backdoored a bunch of IftU/AtS/TSL stuff into mainline by revising UtBS?
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20100706 12:46:16< Aethaeryn> Brilliant.
20100706 12:53:14< AI0867> not the dark tiles
20100706 12:53:30< AI0867> zerovirus's art however...
20100706 12:54:05< Aethaeryn> well, chaos, right?
20100706 12:54:14< Aethaeryn> that's a substantial part of IftU
20100706 12:54:37< AI0867> yeah
20100706 12:54:46< AI0867> dark tiles were originally from UtBS though
20100706 12:55:09< timotei> utbs: under the burning sun?
20100706 12:56:16< Aethaeryn> yes
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20100706 13:06:55< Aethaeryn> lol
20100706 13:07:04< Aethaeryn> 5 nicks in a row go down
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20100706 13:10:13< timotei> :))
20100706 13:10:38< timotei> Aethaeryn: it seems the kick bug works :))
20100706 13:10:54< Aethaeryn> oh?
20100706 13:11:00< timotei> nvm :P
20100706 13:25:33< Aethaeryn> k
20100706 13:26:33< timotei> it was just a joke:D
20100706 13:26:59< Aethaeryn> well those things exist more than you'd think
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20100706 16:31:54< Aethaeryn> Valkier: where are you in #Wesnoth-music ?
20100706 16:31:59< Aethaeryn> you missed an elitist rant. 
20100706 16:32:00< Aethaeryn> :-(
20100706 16:32:27< Aethaeryn> that started about 1 minute before you logged on, too
20100706 16:32:32< Aethaeryn> you could've caught most of it
20100706 16:39:57< Valkier> aww
20100706 16:39:58< Valkier> Sorry
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20100706 19:57:57< Gambit> You think this affects his uptime?
20100706 19:58:17< Gambit> He was so happy about his ~500 days record or whatever it was
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20100706 23:16:38< shadowmaster> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=440475#p440475
20100706 23:16:52< shadowmaster> seriously, is it required to annotate FAQ with [acronym] tags?
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20100706 23:30:18< noy> shadowmaster: look at the discussion in wesnoth-dev
20100706 23:30:40< noy> I wasn't too impressed. 
20100706 23:31:20< shadowmaster> aw.
20100706 23:31:33< shadowmaster> I replied to the thread, I didn't know of an IRC discussion
20100706 23:32:08< Gambit> shadowmaster: Where has your remote session been? Everything okay?
20100706 23:32:46< shadowmaster> I don't know what happened. It seems the server was reset or something.
20100706 23:32:51< shadowmaster> and I was away.
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20100706 23:46:20< shadowmaster> after reading the discussion, I conclude the following:
20100706 23:46:57< shadowmaster> "teamwork" is a good that you can buy at the nearest store
20100706 23:47:24< shadowmaster> so now let me think about how we are going to get enough money to buy all the "teamwork"s norbert wants
20100706 23:48:37< Blueblaze> hey
20100706 23:48:52< Blueblaze> shadowmaster: do you like small party campaigns?
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20100706 23:48:56< Blueblaze> campaigns/scenarios
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20100706 23:57:32< shadowmaster> just expanded my reply in Website
20100706 23:58:01< shadowmaster> Blueblaze: no idea.
20100706 23:58:20< Gambit> The forums look much prettier at 75% zoom
20100706 23:59:03< Gambit> But this might be because I shrunk vista's default text to an insanely small size the other day.
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