--- Log opened Wed Jul 14 00:00:50 2010
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20100714 00:03:50< shadowmaster> sounds like a plan
20100714 00:04:31< Espreon> Hmmmmmm?
20100714 00:04:46< shadowmaster> hmmmm what?
20100714 00:04:53< Espreon> What sounds like a plan?
20100714 00:05:15< shadowmaster> the crap that you can read above, of course.
20100714 00:05:26< shadowmaster> what else would it be.
20100714 00:05:37< Espreon> Oh, that...
20100714 00:05:42< Espreon> Oh well...
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20100714 00:08:02< Gambit> shadowmaster: you lied to me
20100714 00:09:39< shadowmaster> no
20100714 00:09:59< shadowmaster> I got better™.
20100714 00:10:56< Espreon> Ugh, so much to do... so little time...
20100714 00:12:06< shadowmaster> Espreon: I guess you also got better™ since you seem to be using a regular IRC client
20100714 00:12:12< shadowmaster> i.e. you got your lappy fixed?
20100714 00:12:21< Espreon> Yeah...
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20100714 00:23:33< shadowmaster> 18:23:25 -!- Topic for #wesnoth-umc-dev: Shadowmaster's just joined Twitter! OH NOEZ! (he's ShikadiLord, btw) | Wesnoth-UMC-Dev Project discussion and  support channel | http://wesnoth-umc-dev.ai0867.net | Staff: AI0867, Espreon, shadowmaster | Project @ SF.net: http://tinyurl.com/umcdev | IRC logs:  http://irclogs.wesnoth.org, http://irclogs.ai0867.net
20100714 00:23:40< shadowmaster> Gambit: you saying you can't trust tinyurls?
20100714 00:23:55< Gambit> Yes. Yes I am.
20100714 00:23:58< Gambit> I have never clicked that one.
20100714 00:49:17<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7394 /trunk/The_Silver_Lands/units/elementals/ (20 files): TSL: changed the names and tree of the elementals according to... the plans.
20100714 00:50:52<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7395 /trunk/The_Silver_Lands/units/elementals/Tears_of_the_Forest.cfg: TSL: killed the Tears of the Forest.
20100714 00:55:08<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7396 /trunk/The_Silver_Lands/units/elementals/ (16 files): TSL: enabled TC for all of the elementals.
20100714 00:55:44< Gambit> shadowmaster: Will there be a frogatto umc dev?
20100714 00:55:50< Gambit> Because I'm working on a modification right now
20100714 00:55:58< Gambit> It will be awesomesauce.
20100714 00:56:14< shadowmaster> uh-huh.
20100714 00:56:15< Gambit> It lets you edit the tiles to get coins
20100714 00:56:23< Gambit> (kidding)
20100714 00:56:33< Gambit> I'm turning the titlescreen into a sandbox practice area
20100714 00:56:47< shadowmaster> Riveting tale, chap.
20100714 00:56:55< Gambit> shadowmaster: You know you're interested!
20100714 00:58:28<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7397 /trunk/The_Silver_Lands/macros/traits.cfg: TSL: added female names for the elemental traits.
20100714 01:00:19< Espreon> shadowmaster: Why did you decide to Frenchify everything by calling female demons demonesses?
20100714 01:00:25< Espreon> Leave my Greek stuff alone...
20100714 01:00:57< shadowmaster> Espreon: BECAUSE.
20100714 01:01:19< shadowmaster> They aren't called dæmons, you know.
20100714 01:01:26< shadowmaster> so I can do whatever I want with them.
20100714 01:01:27< shadowmaster> period.
20100714 01:02:53< Espreon> Well, whatever.
20100714 01:04:53<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7398 /trunk/The_Silver_Lands/units/elementals.cfg: TSL: added a female name for the Elemental race.
20100714 01:05:22< Espreon> If you're gonna ask about that, same reason I sometimes use "he/she/it/they"...
20100714 01:05:33< Espreon> After all... anything is possible.
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20100714 02:01:58<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7399 /trunk/The_Silver_Lands/ (19 files in 2 dirs): TSL: replaced the elementals' old heal-on-X-terrain abilities with resurgence.
20100714 02:02:59<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7400 /trunk/The_Silver_Lands/units/elementals/ (Rock_Golem.cfg Stone_Giant.cfg): TSL: renamed a file to reflect the unit's new name.
20100714 02:14:36< shadowmaster> obviously the microblogging plugin doesn't play well with my blog style
20100714 02:14:42< shadowmaster> so I'm adding more CSS rules
20100714 02:15:35< shadowmaster> CSS ftw
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20100714 02:54:34<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7401 /trunk/The_Silver_Lands/macros/abilities.cfg: TSL: corrected a couple of mistakes.
20100714 03:03:32<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7402 /trunk/The_Silver_Lands/scenarios/ (7 files): TSL: updated recruit lists.
20100714 03:05:40<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7403 /trunk/The_Silver_Lands/units/elementals/ (Elemental_Wisp.cfg Kobold.cfg Lava_Beast.cfg): TSL: updated advancements lists.
20100714 03:29:28< shadowmaster> screw this sidebar plugin
20100714 03:29:42< shadowmaster> invalid XHTML is invalid
20100714 03:30:09< shadowmaster> and I don't feel like figuring out what the hell is wrong at the PHP side.
20100714 03:33:26< Gambit> [timestamp] <Gambit> Write your own feed reader like a real man.
20100714 03:45:27< shadowmaster> http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A%2F%2Fshadowm.rewound.net%2Fblog%2F
20100714 03:45:33< shadowmaster> I cannot understand.
20100714 03:49:57< shadowmaster> OOOOH.
20100714 03:50:05< shadowmaster> Invalid invisible characters.
20100714 03:58:00< shadowmaster> LOL HWÆT?
20100714 03:58:12< shadowmaster> it's because of my em dash?
20100714 03:58:43 * shadowmaster ponders whether to blame serendipity or the PHP installation at NFS
20100714 03:59:06< shadowmaster> wait a second
20100714 03:59:09< shadowmaster> no, it's not because of that
20100714 04:00:33 * Gambit is ticked.
20100714 04:00:40< Gambit> It rained for precisely one hour... from 9 to 10.
20100714 04:00:51< Gambit> While my favorite favorite favorite favorite favorite show was on.
20100714 04:01:01< Gambit> In fact the only reason I turn on my television is once a week for this show.
20100714 04:01:28< Gambit> Rained hard enough to knock out the stellite signal.
20100714 04:01:52< Gambit> I mean wtf is wrong with you mother nature?!
20100714 04:02:17< Gambit> shadowmaster: Does the face that you know it wasn't your em dash mean that you now know what it is?
20100714 04:02:35< shadowmaster> <a href="http://twitter.com/frogatto"class="twitter_user">frogatto</a>
20100714 04:02:53< shadowmaster> notice something missing?
20100714 04:03:14< Gambit> besides the space between the url and the next attribute?
20100714 04:03:27< shadowmaster> exactly
20100714 04:04:31< Gambit> shadowmaster: is it supposed to be a big wall of text?
20100714 04:04:34< Gambit> Or still WIP?
20100714 04:04:34< shadowmaster> wtf
20100714 04:04:35< shadowmaster> I can't find that typo in the PHP
20100714 04:04:55< shadowmaster> I haven't wired the new CSS into it
20100714 04:04:59< shadowmaster> hold on a sec
20100714 04:05:18< Gambit> furthermore 20 tweets is a lot
20100714 04:05:37< Gambit> (that's the size of their feeds)
20100714 04:05:55< shadowmaster> I need to change the setting.
20100714 04:06:53< shadowmaster> CSS uploaded
20100714 04:07:24 * shadowmaster kicks shadowm.*
20100714 04:08:03< Gambit> ColdFusion has twitter <3
20100714 04:08:10< Gambit> 9.01 released today
20100714 04:08:16< Gambit> But nothing good enough to make me upgrade.
20100714 04:08:17< shadowmaster> okay, it works now
20100714 04:08:23< shadowmaster> now back to the PHP
20100714 04:09:58< Gambit> shadowmaster: http://twitpic.com/250umc
20100714 04:10:11< shadowmaster> I saw that earlier
20100714 04:11:58< shadowmaster> say hello to Choqok: http://shadowm.rewound.net/choqok.png
20100714 04:12:28< Gambit> Cool.
20100714 04:13:52< shadowmaster> I didn't notice 3sr was using Android. heh.
20100714 04:14:02< Gambit> shadowmaster: say hello to franbot twitter reporting: http://imagebin.org/105217
20100714 04:16:32< shadowmaster> huh
20100714 04:17:22< shadowmaster> okay, I think I found the bug
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20100714 04:17:36< Gambit> shadowmaster: huh what?
20100714 04:17:50< shadowmaster> the bug in the plugin's PHP
20100714 04:18:05< shadowmaster> $status = preg_replace('{@([\w_]*)}','@<a href="' . $this->get_base_url() . '$1"' . $class . '>$1</a>', $status);
20100714 04:18:09< shadowmaster> should be
20100714 04:18:15< shadowmaster> $status = preg_replace('{@([\w_]*)}','@<a href="' . $this->get_base_url() . '$1" ' . $class . '>$1</a>', $status);
20100714 04:19:40< shadowmaster> \o/
20100714 04:19:46< shadowmaster> valid XHTML 1.0 Transitional again!
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20100714 05:09:36< Gambit> shadowmaster: Those edits must be reverted by hand?
20100714 05:10:24< Gambit> I've got some time.
20100714 05:10:38< Gambit> ~an hour before I call it a night
20100714 05:10:43< shadowmaster> you may need *lots* of time for this
20100714 05:10:51 * shadowmaster tries to focus
20100714 05:11:46< Gambit> Well if you need an extra clicking hand let me know.
20100714 05:18:12< shadowmaster> it's not really clicking what I need right now but...
20100714 05:18:19< shadowmaster> okay, let me check the damage more closely
20100714 05:19:22< shadowmaster> Gambit: it's not pretty
20100714 05:19:23< shadowmaster> http://wiki.wesnoth.org/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&limit=500
20100714 05:19:35< shadowmaster> just scroll down to the bottom to get an idea
20100714 05:20:28< shadowmaster> fucking software it doesn't let me see older changes
20100714 05:20:44< Gambit> shadowmaster: How to revert changes? I see no undo link.
20100714 05:20:59< shadowmaster> that's a very good question
20100714 05:21:07< shadowmaster> because I'm sysop and I'm not seeing an undo option either
20100714 05:21:41< shadowmaster> it's probably because all those edits created new pages
20100714 05:21:57< shadowmaster> I want to see if reverting the whole database could be a saner option
20100714 05:22:14< shadowmaster> BUT THIS SOFTWARE DOESN'T LET ME
20100714 05:22:49< Gambit> And I see no option to nuke a page either.
20100714 05:23:00< shadowmaster> I see that option
20100714 05:23:04< shadowmaster> not from the recentchanges list though
20100714 05:23:10< shadowmaster> Gambit: you are sysop?
20100714 05:23:34< Gambit> shadowmaster: It seems to me that removing a page ought be something regular users are capable of...
20100714 05:23:38< Gambit> I mean it's a wiki...
20100714 05:23:42< Gambit> every chagne is undoable
20100714 05:23:48< Gambit> I guess not though.
20100714 05:24:08< shadowmaster> motherfucking software.
20100714 05:24:13< shadowmaster> I can't find any way to make a new sysop
20100714 05:24:25 * shadowmaster summons some SQL-fu
20100714 05:25:15< shadowmaster> you know
20100714 05:25:22< shadowmaster> this kind of stuff is why we need a wiki admin
20100714 05:25:26< shadowmaster> a proper wiki admin
20100714 05:25:57< Gambit> Really now?
20100714 05:26:13< shadowmaster> yes
20100714 05:28:47< Gambit> Well let's just clean up the mess.
20100714 05:29:12< Gambit> ~30 minutes. Though I do have some free time tomorow morning.
20100714 05:29:27< Gambit> I guess for now I'll just clear the links
20100714 05:29:45< shadowmaster> don't bother.
20100714 05:29:52< shadowmaster> I'm closing it again.
20100714 05:30:06< Espreon> LOL, satellite.
20100714 05:31:29< Gambit> Well 2 pages down ;)
20100714 05:34:12< shadowmaster> hi counterintuitive crap
20100714 05:34:13< shadowmaster> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help%3aReverting#Bot_rollback
20100714 05:34:45< shadowmaster> IT DOESN'T EXPLAIN WHAT TO DO WITH MULTIPLE TARGETS
20100714 05:36:33< Gambit> The same thing for each one?
20100714 05:36:45< shadowmaster> yes
20100714 05:36:53< shadowmaster> you can imagine that it doesn't scale well
20100714 05:37:02< shadowmaster> with hundreds of spambots
20100714 05:38:47< Gambit> Which is of course why they'd use hundreds of bots.
20100714 05:38:52< Gambit> Instead of one bot and hundres of posts.
20100714 05:39:44< Gambit> So you seriously can't just run some queries on the database and magic it all away?
20100714 05:39:52< Espreon> Hmmmm... the preprocessor now hates TSL for some reason...
20100714 05:39:56< Gambit> And here was Aethaeryn bitching at me about not being able to access my data...
20100714 05:40:23< shadowmaster> Gambit: no
20100714 05:40:34< shadowmaster> MediaWIki is rather...complicated
20100714 05:40:36< shadowmaster> for instance you can't just delete users.
20100714 05:40:38< shadowmaster> you can only block them.
20100714 05:40:40<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7404 /trunk/The_Silver_Lands/scenarios/00_RPG_Utils_Test.cfg: TSL: updated more recruit lists... blah...
20100714 05:40:47< shadowmaster> deleting them from the database may lead to pain.
20100714 05:41:11< shadowmaster> that's why I say it's the biggest POS ever and Wikipedia is lucky to have their developers working for them
20100714 05:41:33< shadowmaster> biggest. piece. of. shit. ever.
20100714 05:41:43< shadowmaster> even IE is more friendly than this.
20100714 05:42:23< Espreon> shadowmaster: This is pissing me off, would you please take a look?
20100714 05:42:36< shadowmaster> no, sorry.
20100714 05:42:44< Espreon> Damn it.
20100714 05:42:46< shadowmaster> I'm already at the limit of my patience.
20100714 05:43:09< shadowmaster> I'm tempted to just drop all the wiki tables
20100714 05:43:14< shadowmaster> and start from zero
20100714 05:43:23< shadowmaster> Wesnoth Wiki 2.0
20100714 05:43:44< shadowmaster> except that we'd need to switch to something that doesn't suck balls.
20100714 05:43:56< shadowmaster> EVEN PHPBB IS BETTER THAN THIS
20100714 05:44:47< Gambit> Would that mean no referenceWML for a while?
20100714 05:44:48< shadowmaster> I hereby curse all those Wikipedia clones to eternal suffering for their retardness!
20100714 05:44:56< shadowmaster> this includes ED.
20100714 05:45:01< Espreon> ...
20100714 05:45:13< shadowmaster> and the Wikia Empire.
20100714 05:45:16< shadowmaster> and Uncyclopedia.
20100714 05:45:19< shadowmaster> and the MediaWiki wiki
20100714 05:45:19< Espreon> Anyway, the game just friggin' segfaults when I try to start TSL.
20100714 05:45:35< Espreon> ... so... faces are going to have to be kicked.
20100714 05:45:56< shadowmaster> kick all the faces you can, I've got an administrative problem here.
20100714 05:45:59< shadowmaster> just when there's no oe who can help
20100714 05:48:40< Gambit> I tried.
20100714 05:49:06< shadowmaster> well, if I could figure out how to give you admin privs
20100714 05:49:14< Gambit> But it was rather like moving sand with an eye dropper
20100714 05:49:22< Gambit> And the sand pile is a beach.
20100714 05:49:43< shadowmaster> oh wait
20100714 05:49:48< shadowmaster> I'm not a bureaucrat sysop
20100714 05:49:51< shadowmaster> goddammit
20100714 05:49:57< shadowmaster> I'm a mere sysop
20100714 05:50:07< shadowmaster> damn you cycholka you could have done the whole job
20100714 05:51:23< shadowmaster> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/41/Mediawiki-database-schema.png
20100714 05:51:32< shadowmaster> this explains how the database works.
20100714 05:51:34< shadowmaster> okay, this shouldn't be too hard -.-
20100714 05:51:45< Gambit> That really bugs me. Admins and clan leaders that don't prepare for their own inevitable departure.
20100714 05:51:51< shadowmaster> Gambit: give me a 21" display
20100714 05:51:54< shadowmaster> quickly.
20100714 05:52:05< Gambit> Then you end up with some jackass locking himself out of the ACP and it takes two weeks to contact the old root.
20100714 05:52:22< Gambit> shadowmaster: Wow
20100714 05:52:28< shadowmaster> what are you reading?
20100714 05:52:50< Gambit> Your diagram thinger
20100714 05:53:22< shadowmaster> before that
20100714 05:53:30< Gambit> shadowmaster: that was personal experience
20100714 05:54:12< Gambit> s/himself/himself *AND ALL THE OTHER ADMINS*/
20100714 05:56:08< Gambit> The hilarious thing was that that very day I had just recieved admin because none of them knew anything about Zetaboards ACP (whereas I had several years experience) and the guy who locked us all out spent an hour or so telling me not to "fuck anything up".
20100714 05:56:24< shadowmaster> hah
20100714 05:56:27< shadowmaster> I found Mist's user entry
20100714 05:56:32< shadowmaster> I'll clone his rights onto me
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20100714 05:56:37< Gambit> Then after I finish fixing/updating things he goes in to remove my priveledges and ends up locking us all out of the ACP.
20100714 05:56:41< shadowmaster> insert evil laughter here
20100714 05:57:35< shadowmaster> wait.
20100714 05:57:39< shadowmaster> there was an easier way to learn this
20100714 05:58:25< shadowmaster> what version are we-
20100714 05:59:00< shadowmaster> 1.15 eh
20100714 06:00:38< Gambit> Good night.
20100714 06:00:41< Gambit> shadowmaster: Good luck.
20100714 06:01:24< shadowmaster> night :(
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20100714 07:07:08< shadowmaster> I predict the arrival of zookeeper in a couple of minutes.
20100714 07:10:29< shadowmaster> failed I guess.
20100714 07:24:38<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7405 /trunk/The_Silver_Lands/docs/elementals: TSL: added first version of the documentation on the elementals.
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20100714 07:32:43<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7407 /trunk/The_Silver_Lands/units/elementals/ (Ice_Larva.cfg Salamander.cfg Storm_Bird.cfg Vine_Leaper.cfg): TSL: ran umcpropfix.
20100714 07:33:39<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7408 /trunk/The_Silver_Lands/units/elementals/ (Tidal.cfg Undine.cfg): TSL: ran wmlindent.
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20100714 07:51:04< shadowmaster> Iceweasel 3.6 from Debian experimental has been very stable for me so far.
20100714 07:51:08< shadowmaster> 0 crashes.
20100714 07:51:36< shadowmaster> you know your distribution sucks when Debian experimental is better than its own version of some software package.
20100714 07:51:56< shadowmaster> nah, I'm not accusing anyone of being worse than Debian exp.
20100714 07:52:42< shadowmaster> anyway
20100714 07:53:13< shadowmaster> you know your video graphics controller sucks when it performs worse for 2D unless it's running a 3D compositing window manager.
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20100714 08:13:31< Espreon> Goodbyez..
20100714 08:13:42< shadowmaster> bye
20100714 08:39:35< shadowmaster> ah. my mental spambot detector never fails
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20100714 14:13:07< Gambit> poor shadowmaster
20100714 14:16:36< timotei> what happened?
20100714 14:20:47< Gambit> He missed his deadline.
20100714 14:21:10< timotei> :|
20100714 14:53:40< Gambit> be back soon. windows updates.
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20100714 14:57:13< Gambit> And we're back
20100714 16:08:01<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: faabumc * r7409 /trunk/Nightmares_of_Meloen/po/pl.po: l10n: update polish translation.
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20100714 16:28:54< FAAB> I can't commit stuff. Should I just retry (I did once already), or some background work is locking the repository ?
20100714 16:29:22< timotei> FAAB: you get any error?
20100714 16:30:04< FAAB> sure: SSL negotiation failed: Secure connection truncated (https://wesnoth-umc-dev.svn.sf.net)
20100714 16:30:13< FAAB> timotei: ^
20100714 16:30:23< timotei> hmm
20100714 16:31:25< timotei> it seems is something from server-side as google tells
20100714 16:31:39< timotei> FAAB: http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/ticket/313
20100714 16:32:23< timotei> oh well,based on that ticket might something from the firewall
20100714 16:32:29< timotei> FAAB: windows/linux?
20100714 16:32:37< timotei> FAAB: if windows, did you try a reboot?
20100714 16:33:13< FAAB> lol. GNU/linux here fortunately ;)
20100714 16:33:26< timotei> :D
20100714 16:33:45< FAAB> seems I got connected finally
20100714 16:33:49< timotei> :)
20100714 16:34:00< FAAB> let me see if it goes through
20100714 16:48:05<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: faabumc * r7410 /trunk/Nightmares_of_Meloen/ (credits.txt po/fr.po): NoM l10n: add French translation by Feufochmar.
20100714 16:49:49< FAAB> timotei: commit done, thanks.
20100714 16:49:55< FAAB> this URL you gave me is awesome, As soon as I load it on my browser, I could connect to sourceforge for the commit. I am going to bookmark it. :)
20100714 16:54:58< timotei> lol
20100714 16:54:58< timotei> :))
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20100714 19:36:16< Gambit|Laptop> sigh
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20100714 22:54:28< Espreon> ... and now, for some reason, the AC adaptor can recharge the battery.
20100714 22:55:43< Gambit> HUZZAH for things magically fixing themselves
20100714 22:55:49< Espreon> Yeahz...
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20100714 23:22:56< Gambit> shadowm_laptop: So how goes the wiki cleanup?
20100714 23:23:07< Gambit> shadowmaster: Still need help?
20100714 23:26:52< shadowmaster> no...Crab_ is handlign it
20100714 23:26:54< shadowmaster> handling
20100714 23:27:11< Gambit> cool
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