--- Log opened Thu Jul 15 00:00:55 2010 20100715 00:09:58< Gambit> shadowmaster: "You may embed only 3 quotes within each other." 20100715 00:10:00< Gambit> ORLY? 20100715 00:10:12< Gambit> No more quote towers? :( 20100715 00:10:48< shadowmaster> yes 20100715 00:11:01< shadowmaster> and that isn't a recent restriction either. 20100715 00:11:22< Gambit> Hmmm. I guess I've just never run into it. 20100715 00:33:13-!- zookeeper [~l@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [] 20100715 00:55:21< Gambit> I am unable to post anything in offtopic without zookeeper calling me a troll. 20100715 00:56:45< shadowmaster> he's right 20100715 00:57:02< Gambit> Really? 20100715 00:57:05< shadowmaster> yes 20100715 00:57:10< Gambit> Darn... 20100715 01:02:46-!- PetePorty [~Pete@pc-25-54-120-200.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Quit: Saliendo] 20100715 01:26:59-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [] 20100715 01:32:56-!- PetePorty [~Pete@pc-25-54-120-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100715 01:33:13< PetePorty> shadowmaster, what do you think? http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=30779 20100715 01:34:01< PetePorty> is he lieing? or is it true? in case it was true, what would you do? 20100715 01:59:52-!- Mythological [Mythologic@77.29.6.166] has quit [] 20100715 02:31:30< Valkier_> Who cares? 20100715 02:31:43< Valkier_> He's an idiot either way. 20100715 02:40:07-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100715 02:41:48-!- Valkier_ is now known as Valkier 20100715 02:45:18< PetePorty> true, true.... 20100715 02:49:47< shadowmaster> no, it's just that he shouldn't have posted that in the first place. 20100715 02:58:43< PetePorty> I know, I'm not talking about the post itself, but about the situation 20100715 02:59:02< PetePorty> if you were the one to decid (and you probably are), what would you do? 20100715 02:59:13< PetePorty> decide* 20100715 03:02:24< PetePorty> well... I'll go to play now, c ya 20100715 03:09:27-!- loonycyborg [~sergey@wesnoth/developer/loonycyborg] has quit [Quit: Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz] 20100715 03:24:49-!- un214 [~quassel@adsl-75-45-10-41.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100715 03:38:11-!- un214 [~quassel@adsl-75-45-10-41.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20100715 03:54:21-!- Aethaeryn [~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100715 03:55:43< Aethaeryn> This week and next week are going to be really busy. I'm essentially full-time, and have an important final coming up. Then two weeks after that, another one of my summer classes ends. Then two weeks after that, the last of my summer classes ends, then I essentially have one week of vacation. 20100715 03:56:05< shadowmaster> k 20100715 03:56:09< Aethaeryn> So I'm going to be mostly MIA until next Thursday 20100715 03:56:34< Aethaeryn> Then I'm done with math, my one difficult class (both my philosophies are laid back) and that frees up a huge chunk of my time. 20100715 03:56:54< Aethaeryn> There's two kinds of philosophies... The so-arcane-you-have-to-put-all-your-soul-into-it and the laid-back. Fortunately, the summer ones tend to be the latter. 20100715 04:26:22< Gambit> new blog post is new 20100715 04:31:49-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [] 20100715 04:32:47< Gambit> "Arguing over which Linux distribution is the best is intellectual masturbation." 20100715 04:32:50< Gambit> Interesting... 20100715 04:42:56< PetePorty> 1/100th of a second is called a "jiffy". 20100715 04:58:16-!- fendrin [~fabi@wesnoth/developer/fendrin] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20100715 04:58:19-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-76-202-21-28.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100715 05:14:10-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100715 05:23:53< shadowmaster> Gambit: http://grickit.blogspot.com/p/test.html 20100715 05:24:07< Gambit> shadowmaster: Yes? 20100715 05:24:24< shadowmaster> generally, blog software which support "static" pages deliberately enforce the blog's layout 20100715 05:24:33< shadowmaster> if they don't then it could be considered a separate feature. 20100715 05:24:39< shadowmaster> also, you've got that in your navbar. 20100715 05:25:08< Gambit> Well just because everyone else does it doesn't mean blogger should. 20100715 05:25:15< shadowmaster> so, I shrank http://shadowm.rewound.net/personal.php 20100715 05:25:18< Gambit> Everyone else doesn't let you edit your CSS so extensively for free. 20100715 05:25:51< shadowmaster> I fed these argaiv pills to it. I got them for free according to an email. 20100715 05:26:04< shadowmaster> so I went and got them and gave them to the software. 20100715 05:26:22< Gambit> " Absolutely all components were coded by hand;" 20100715 05:26:28< Gambit> Even the twitter feed reader? 20100715 05:26:54< shadowmaster> also, generally you can fool around as much as you want with the layout of a blog if you host the blog yourself. 20100715 05:27:06< shadowmaster> neither the feed reader or the whole of Serendipity were coded by me, naturally 20100715 05:27:28 * Gambit sues you for false advertisement :o 20100715 05:27:44< Gambit> shadowmaster: What's the matter? Feed readers hopelessly complicated in PHP? 20100715 05:27:45< shadowmaster> that's advertising the site's layout, not the blog software :( 20100715 05:28:02< Gambit> Only 21 lines of CFML. 20100715 05:28:08< shadowmaster> you took that quote way out of context 20100715 05:28:22< Gambit> And a large part of that is related to sending the messages through IRC. 20100715 05:28:32< shadowmaster> I could have coded the layout with a couple of lines of PHP if I wanted. 20100715 05:28:43< shadowmaster> but that wouldn't make it so extensible to be able to use it for wesnoth-umc-dev's website 20100715 05:29:14< Gambit> Actually a feedreader for a website is stilly about 17 lines... hmm 20100715 05:30:25< Gambit> shadowmaster: I'm a troll. 20100715 05:30:30< Gambit> Taking things out of context is what I do! 20100715 05:31:10< shadowmaster> wtf. 20100715 05:31:22< shadowmaster> a troll managed to get hold of a moderator position? 20100715 05:31:30< Gambit> :( 20100715 05:31:31< Valkier> ? 20100715 05:31:32< shadowmaster> NOT IN MY FORUMS. 20100715 05:31:53< Valkier> shadowmaster: Don't worry. I'll be a mod. 20100715 05:31:53< shadowmaster> I hereby banish you from the Wesnoth.org community. Have this torch. 20100715 05:31:57< shadowmaster> It's too dark out there. You'll need it. 20100715 05:32:22< Gambit> Trolls turn to stone in the sunlight. We like the dark. 20100715 05:32:29< Gambit> OMG plot hole in LOTR I just realized! 20100715 05:32:33< Valkier> I'll bring the word of Odin to the godless heathens on these accursed forums... 20100715 05:32:50< Gambit> There was sun shining in that tomb where they fought the cave troll in Fellowship 20100715 05:32:52< Espreon> No, we worship Woden here. 20100715 05:33:09< Gambit> shadowmaster: I'm not really a troll. 20100715 05:33:14< Gambit> At least not intentionally. 20100715 05:33:39< Espreon> God damn it, when I renamed utils/ to macros/ the history was lost... 20100715 05:33:55< shadowmaster> Gambit: I know. Or you would be seeing something to the effect of "Violation of the Posting Guidelines (trolling)". 20100715 05:33:58< Gambit> Apparenlty the parts of my personality related to humor enjoy taking things out of context and sarcasm. 20100715 05:34:21< shadowmaster> well, I also like to do it whenever it's possible 20100715 05:34:33< shadowmaster> Soliton told me off for that once. 20100715 05:34:40< Valkier> I like to do it whenever possible as well! 20100715 05:34:42< shadowmaster> ^_^ 20100715 05:34:43< Valkier> Bow-chica 20100715 05:34:52< shadowmaster> the hell? 20100715 05:34:59< Gambit> bow wow? 20100715 05:35:00< Valkier> Oh, trolling! 20100715 05:35:08< Valkier> You weren't... 20100715 05:35:09< Valkier> Uh... 20100715 05:35:17< Gambit> Ha 20100715 05:35:19< Valkier> Gambit! Bring the lube! 20100715 05:35:31< Gambit> Valkier: Yes I got it two lines ago. 20100715 05:35:36< Gambit> Now it's just distrubing. 20100715 05:35:51< Valkier> I'll show you disturbing. 20100715 05:35:53< Gambit> shadowmaster: I like to "do it" whenever possible. 20100715 05:36:05< Gambit> Middle school joke is middle school 20100715 05:36:43< Valkier> Hey, I'll have you know I joke at a high school level. 20100715 05:40:50< PetePorty> Valkier, are you smart? 20100715 05:41:28< PetePorty> -.- 20100715 05:43:01< Valkier> Nope 20100715 05:43:06< Valkier> Why you yoo ask? 20100715 05:43:18< shadowmaster> because he isn't. 20100715 05:43:27< PetePorty> though you might be able to answer a question 20100715 05:43:37< PetePorty> why the hostility, shadowmaster ? 20100715 05:43:45< PetePorty> I thought we got over that... 20100715 05:43:46< shadowmaster> why so serious? 20100715 05:43:53< Valkier> Oh snap! 20100715 05:43:57< Valkier> Joker rolled! 20100715 05:44:03< Gambit> This is why I can never bring myself to actually ignore people on anything... 20100715 05:44:04< shadowmaster> come on, it's just a light-hearted comment! ^_^ 20100715 05:44:14< Gambit> Imagine how awkward it would be to see only half this conversation... 20100715 05:44:24< PetePorty> hahaha 20100715 05:44:24< Valkier> What do you want me to (attempt) to answer? 20100715 05:44:26< shadowmaster> Gambit: yeah 20100715 05:44:47< PetePorty> http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/AN0dyZtf 20100715 05:45:37<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7411 /trunk/The_Silver_Lands/docs/elementals: TSL: renamed the Brazier Creation. 20100715 05:45:42 * shadowmaster aims a ICBFish at esr. 20100715 05:46:11< esr> Eh? Wherefore the fish? 20100715 05:46:29< Gambit> intercontinental ballistic fish? 20100715 05:46:36< shadowmaster> esr: I suspect you are suggesting clichéd character profiles to the artist working on NR 20100715 05:46:45< shadowmaster> Gambit: that's right. 20100715 05:46:51< Gambit> shadowmaster: What? 20100715 05:47:03< shadowmaster> 23:46:29 intercontinental ballistic fish? 20100715 05:47:15< Gambit> s/What/Why/ 20100715 05:47:27< esr> shadowmaster: I don't think so. The NR characters are pretty ewll individualized, at least in my mind. 20100715 05:47:51< shadowmaster> bare-bellied princess (where have I seen THAT before?) 20100715 05:48:18< shadowmaster> and I hear of an elf with a big sword now 20100715 05:48:28< esr> Oh, well, that's just S.O.P. for elf chicks. I didn't specify it. 20100715 05:48:47< shadowmaster> shikadibot: SOP? 20100715 05:48:48<+shikadibot> SOP: standard operating procedure 20100715 05:49:05< shadowmaster> I like how we have been able to avoid it with kitty :) 20100715 05:49:45< esr> The big sword was Valkier's idea. I'm not opposed to it. 20100715 05:49:59< shadowmaster> damn. I'm alone. 20100715 05:50:03< Valkier> Not my fault Wesnoth has the most standards fantasy ideas ever to be fantasy. 20100715 05:50:07 * shadowmaster goes to cry on a corner 20100715 05:50:08< esr> ? 20100715 05:50:34< Valkier> OMG orkz are evilz and are summuned by teh evilz wizaards! 20100715 05:50:37< shadowmaster> I suppose you haven't ever heard of my depp hatred of the Elvish Champion's sword 20100715 05:50:41< shadowmaster> deep 20100715 05:50:47< esr> No, I hadn't. 20100715 05:51:03< shadowmaster> Valkier: erm, fortunately orks aren't evil and aren't summoned by evil wizards here 20100715 05:51:03< Valkier> Elves use the leathers and the bows! 20100715 05:51:06< shadowmaster> orcs 20100715 05:51:16< Gambit> shadowmaster: I'll agree with you :) 20100715 05:51:23< shadowmaster> Gambit: with what? 20100715 05:51:24< esr> This hatred, it will star in the next Pirates of the Caribbean movie, yes? :-) 20100715 05:51:34< Gambit> shadowmaster: spikey haired kids with big swords = bad 20100715 05:51:34< shadowmaster> esr: yeah. 20100715 05:51:36< Valkier> Oh BS. Isn't the entire storyline that ancient liches are making orcs fight humans? 20100715 05:51:44< Gambit> Valkier: erm... no 20100715 05:51:55< Gambit> A human queen made that happen 20100715 05:51:59< shadowmaster> Gambit: I have no idea about spiky haired people 20100715 05:52:05< Gambit> ancient liches make the undead fight humans! 20100715 05:52:09< shadowmaster> I just hope they aren't blond. 20100715 05:52:31< Valkier> Hey, I was told the elves are blonde. 20100715 05:52:34< esr> The elves? Well, I did specifty that Elenia ia redhead. 20100715 05:52:38< Valkier> I take no responsibility on that one. 20100715 05:52:51< shadowmaster> Valkier: I blame fmuñoz. 20100715 05:52:58< Valkier> It seems to me a people who live in a forest would have brown hair. 20100715 05:53:03< Valkier> But that's just me. 20100715 05:53:04-!- elvish_sovereign [~elvish_so@pool-173-59-71-113.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: elvish_sovereign] 20100715 05:53:08< shadowmaster> the guy who gave us ISO Standard Elves first. 20100715 05:53:12< esr> And Wesnoth elves *are* blond, usually. What's the issue here? 20100715 05:53:27< shadowmaster> none, it's just that spiky haired, blond, reminds me of something! 20100715 05:53:54< esr> I actually have developed a generative theory of why Elves look and dress the way they do. 20100715 05:53:54< Valkier> http://kaonazhie.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/ff7-cloud.jpg 20100715 05:54:21< shadowmaster> hail kitty, the artist who have you a blue (???) haired elf, and a pink (???) haired elf. 20100715 05:54:26< shadowmaster> gave 20100715 05:54:36< esr> Seriously. I was discussing this with Valkier a feww nights back... 20100715 05:54:39< Valkier> Pink haired? 20100715 05:54:47< Valkier> Say what? 20100715 05:54:50< Valkier> You best be trollin 20100715 05:55:01< shadowmaster> anyway, I don't have a problem with blonde elves unless they start trying to destroy my house. 20100715 05:55:07< shadowmaster> Valkier: uh. 20100715 05:55:16-!- Gambit [~quassel@pa-67-234-73-7.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Quit: night all] 20100715 05:55:31< shadowmaster> http://forums.wesnoth.org/download/file.php?id=25236&mode=view 20100715 05:55:50< shadowmaster> she isn't supposed to be normal anyway :p 20100715 05:55:52< Valkier> As for Eryssa, my job was to make her attractive. Plus, even the sprite has her wearing less than I gave her. 20100715 05:56:08< Valkier> Don't give me that "Valkier done a bad ting!" crap. 20100715 05:56:13< shadowmaster> sprite? 20100715 05:56:22< shadowmaster> what sprite are you looking at, 1.4? 20100715 05:56:27< Valkier> Lemme dig it up. 20100715 05:56:30< shadowmaster> anyway, no, you haven't done any bad thing ;) 20100715 05:56:47< esr> Yeah, Eryssa's the female lead in a romance plot. She has to look sexy. And innocent. And sexy. 20100715 05:57:00< Valkier> http://units.wesnoth.org/trunk/pics/00055_sorceress.png 20100715 05:57:03< shadowmaster> she doesn''t look innocent to me. 20100715 05:57:11< shadowmaster> she looks like someone I should avoid. 20100715 05:57:29< Valkier> She looks as innocent as someone who goes out to a field and kills hundreds of orcs can look. 20100715 05:57:39< esr> Yeah, basically. 20100715 05:57:42< shadowmaster> Valkier: aw, come on, that sprite doesn't have any flesh bits but the head and hands :P 20100715 05:57:45< Valkier> What did you want? 20100715 05:57:52< shadowmaster> the rest is green...clothing...stuff. 20100715 05:57:54< Valkier> Teehee! "Makes someones skull implode" teehee! 20100715 05:58:13< shadowmaster> I look forward to seeing Elenia finished. 20100715 05:58:26< Valkier> Yeah, but I gotta remove the cosplay ears. 20100715 05:58:34< Valkier> Apparently humor isn't allowed. :-P 20100715 05:59:02< shadowmaster> Sister Theta could have kept the cosplay ears instead. 20100715 05:59:10< esr> Nooooo! 20100715 05:59:11< shadowmaster> I mean...Sister whateverhernewnameis 20100715 05:59:12< Valkier> There's always the chance. 20100715 05:59:41< Valkier> I'm thinking sister Theta will have EE sized breasts, a size 0 waist, and a swinging penis. 20100715 05:59:53< esr> shadowmaster: Thera, dangit. You were the one who told me "Theta" was a no-go. 20100715 06:00:07< shadowmaster> esr: yes, I know. But I just couldn't remember the new name :P 20100715 06:00:23< Valkier> Could have named her Alfiana! 20100715 06:00:28< Valkier> And her husband Omeglio! 20100715 06:00:29< shadowmaster> I can see the difference between Th and T, mind you 20100715 06:00:40< shadowmaster> not everyone around here is blessed with that ability, however. 20100715 06:00:42< esr> Of course, *now* she sounds like an Aegean vlocana. 20100715 06:00:55< esr> s/vlocana./volcano./ 20100715 06:01:11< esr> She blows her top! Civilization is destroyed! 20100715 06:01:18< Espreon> Þorn... is fun... 20100715 06:01:26< esr> (Don't mind me, I'm free-associating.) 20100715 06:01:28< Valkier> No, Espreon just gets a nose bleed having seen tits. 20100715 06:01:48 * Espreon rolls his eyes 20100715 06:02:02< Valkier> My bad. I guess they call them jublies where you're from. 20100715 06:02:15< Valkier> stonking great, perhaps? 20100715 06:02:31< Espreon> Nah, we call them sit down and shut the hell up. 20100715 06:02:42< esr> Er., what? shadowmaster isn't British. 20100715 06:02:49< Valkier> Espreon is I thought. 20100715 06:02:56< Espreon> esr: LOL, wut? 20100715 06:03:07< Espreon> What does that have to do with anything? 20100715 06:03:23< Valkier> We dumped your tea! 20100715 06:03:24< Valkier> HAH! 20100715 06:03:42< Valkier> Decorate your flats with that and burn it! 20100715 06:03:49< shadowmaster> Valkier: Espreon is North-american. 20100715 06:03:54< Valkier> Bullpies! 20100715 06:04:11< Valkier> I'll ruin you like I ruined my portraits! 20100715 06:04:14< esr> Sorry, had the wrong referent of "your". Thought "stonking great" was being attached to shadowmaster. 20100715 06:04:59< shadowmaster> nah, I'm short. 20100715 06:05:10< Valkier> How short? 20100715 06:05:21< shadowmaster> around 2 nanometers. 20100715 06:05:32< shadowmaster> I'm in ur CPU. 20100715 06:05:38< Valkier> Is your name Bob? 20100715 06:05:40< shadowmaster> crashing ur softwear. 20100715 06:06:18< Valkier> I'm overclocking my android phone. Don't mess with me, man! 20100715 06:06:42< esr> Espreon: Actually, you and I and Valkier are neighbors by Wesnoth srandards. All in PA. 20100715 06:06:46< shadowmaster> we can just call the FBI and accuse you of terrorism with phones! 20100715 06:07:04< Espreon> esr: I knew that. 20100715 06:07:10< Valkier> Gambit lives in PA as well. 20100715 06:07:13< shadowmaster> Espreon: you live in PA? 20100715 06:07:39< Espreon> Uh...................... YEAH! 20100715 06:07:48< Valkier> Too old. Do not want. 20100715 06:07:53< shadowmaster> go there and buy me souvenirs at Google's HQ and send them to my address. 20100715 06:08:03< Valkier> Google is in CA... 20100715 06:08:17< esr> shadowmaster: Wrong coast. 20100715 06:08:17< shadowmaster> oh 20100715 06:08:26< Valkier> Douchefag 20100715 06:08:29< shadowmaster> too bad. 20100715 06:08:31< esr> It's like 3000 miles from here. 20100715 06:08:41< Valkier> We don't have anything cool in PA. 20100715 06:08:45< Valkier> The amish I guess. 20100715 06:08:58< esr> Steak sandwiches. 20100715 06:09:08< Valkier> Only in Phili 20100715 06:09:10< shadowmaster> Palo Alto (pronounced /ˌpæloʊˈæltoʊ/, from Spanish: palo: "stick" (or "pole" or "tree") and alto: "tall") is a California charter city located in the northwest corner of Santa Clara County, in the San Francisco Bay Area of California, USA. It is named after a tree called El Palo Alto. The city includes portions of Stanford University and is headquarters to a number of Silicon Valley high-technology companies, ... 20100715 06:09:12< Espreon> Well, we live in the Northeast, which is the only region that actually matters. 20100715 06:09:16< shadowmaster> ... including Hewlett-Packard, VMware, Facebook, and Palantir Technologies. 20100715 06:09:43< esr> Oh, and in the southeast of PA the best thin-crust pizza in the U.S. That's something, I guess. 20100715 06:09:48< shadowmaster> of course, you live in Philadelphia. 20100715 06:09:55< Espreon> No. 20100715 06:10:01< Valkier> Pfft. I live in Chambersburg. 20100715 06:10:05< shadowmaster> then what the hell PA stands for? 20100715 06:10:09< Valkier> We have dick here. 20100715 06:10:11< Espreon> Pennsylvania. 20100715 06:10:13< esr> Pennsylvania 20100715 06:10:14< Valkier> Pennsylvania 20100715 06:10:30< PetePorty> Pennsylvania. 20100715 06:10:31< Valkier> Penns Woods, represent! 20100715 06:10:35< shadowmaster> why "A" it should be "E" dammit 20100715 06:10:56< shadowmaster> Michigan is MI. 20100715 06:11:05< Espreon> Does it matter? 20100715 06:11:05< shadowmaster> California is CA. 20100715 06:11:12< Valkier> Maryland is MD 20100715 06:11:19< Valkier> Maine is ME 20100715 06:11:23< Valkier> or something 20100715 06:11:35< shadowmaster> so Michigan is weird and abnormal. 20100715 06:11:39< shadowmaster> it should be nuked. 20100715 06:11:40< Valkier> Yup 20100715 06:11:50< Valkier> Much of the US feels that way. 20100715 06:11:56< Valkier> Though mostly we hate Arizona right now. 20100715 06:11:58< PetePorty> ... 20100715 06:11:58< Espreon> Yeah, noöne cares about the Midwest. 20100715 06:12:00< esr> No. My sword-kin live there. Do not nuke them! 20100715 06:12:21< Valkier> Typical Michigan people. Bring a sword to a gun age. 20100715 06:12:42< esr> Oh, they're capable with guns, too. 20100715 06:12:44< shadowmaster> everyone knows that katanas are just better. 20100715 06:12:53 * Espreon glares at shadowmaster 20100715 06:13:05 * esr puts on his expert hat 20100715 06:13:05< Valkier> Especially overly long katanas. 20100715 06:13:06< shadowmaster> Espreon: oh...uh? 20100715 06:13:14< Valkier> Like Sephiroths! 20100715 06:13:15< Espreon> You children and your katana. 20100715 06:13:16< Valkier> OMG! 20100715 06:14:04< Aethaeryn> Valkier: Arizona is AZ 20100715 06:14:05< Aethaeryn> :P 20100715 06:14:17< Valkier> Aethaeryn: Go study! 20100715 06:14:33< esr> It depends on the tactical surround. Katasnas are designed for fighting in confined spaces like the corridors of Japanese castles. I'd prefer a Western-style cruciform sword for open-fils work. 20100715 06:14:42< Aethaeryn> Valkier: I *do* have a quiz tomor- uh... today. 20100715 06:14:45< Espreon> shadowmaster: I have three armies of ninja; each are composed of over nine thousand ninja; each wield at least two katana. The general of each army is capable of generating at least three tsunami in random places on the Earth. 20100715 06:14:59< Aethaeryn> I'm almost-perpretually at some kind of school until I get my damned degree. 20100715 06:15:00< esr> s/open-fils/open-field/ 20100715 06:15:27< Espreon> shadowmaster: Now do you know why I glared at you? 20100715 06:15:44< shadowmaster> Espreon: you do realize that nine thousand ninja (okay, over nine thousand) are always equal to a single ninja in combat? 20100715 06:15:45< Valkier> So what sword should Hidel have, esr? 20100715 06:15:50< Aethaeryn> esr: So it's kinda like shotgun vs. rifle? 20100715 06:16:05< esr> Aethaeryn: Something like. 20100715 06:16:08< shadowmaster> and if the single ninja is more experienced he'll defeaat your ridiculous ninja army 20100715 06:16:38< shadowmaster> Espreon: I realize, but the trope name uses the invalid "plural" form 20100715 06:16:43< esr> The ancestor of the katana, the longer and heavier tachi., was a field weapon meant to be used from horseback. 20100715 06:16:47< Espreon> shadowmaster: Get out! 20100715 06:16:53< Valkier> Screw it. This is who I'm basing Hidel off of. http://danbooru.donmai.us/data/963d6e7ab2d4284ece4da494203635b2.jpg 20100715 06:17:09< shadowmaster> Espreon: esr also used the plural :p 20100715 06:17:12< Espreon> God damn it, I need AI0867... 20100715 06:17:42< Espreon> That's because people over forty-nine don't care about our precious Nippongo. 20100715 06:17:46< Valkier> esr: Thought that was the No-dochi? 20100715 06:17:56< shadowmaster> Japan. 20100715 06:18:04< esr> Valkier: Do you know what a falcata is? 20100715 06:18:05< shadowmaster> or Japón to us filthy spanish-speaking naives. 20100715 06:18:10< shadowmaster> natives. 20100715 06:18:21< esr> I like "naives" better. 20100715 06:18:24< shadowmaster> although we are definitely naïve too. 20100715 06:18:36< Valkier> the kind of inward curving machette type thing, right? 20100715 06:18:50 * esr smiles benevolently at shadowmaster 20100715 06:19:15< esr> Valkier: Yeah. Think you could give Hidel a large facata? 20100715 06:19:29< esr> s/facata/falcata/ 20100715 06:19:35< Valkier> kk 20100715 06:19:40< Espreon> God damn it, where's AI0867 when one actually needs him? 20100715 06:19:40< Valkier> With glowing runes! 20100715 06:19:50< Valkier> And an orb that houses the souls of those he's killed! 20100715 06:19:55< Valkier> And it will be the size of a house! 20100715 06:20:36< Valkier> It will be made from the fang of a black dragon god. 20100715 06:20:45< Valkier> Also, it can talk. 20100715 06:21:19< Valkier> Am I doing it right? 20100715 06:22:18 * esr shudders 20100715 06:23:01< Valkier> Fine. It will be made of metal. 20100715 06:23:09< Valkier> It will probably be able to cut things. 20100715 06:23:27 * esr is laughing 20100715 06:23:27< Valkier> Possibly even small enough to be held in one hand. 20100715 06:23:42< Valkier> In fact it will be the most unique sword in existence. 20100715 06:24:30< Valkier> Though unless I miss my guess, the fusceta was more of a chopping sword. 20100715 06:24:33< shadowmaster> Espreon: what do you need him for? 20100715 06:25:10< Espreon> To solve... the problem... 20100715 06:25:25< PetePorty> I can solve the problem 20100715 06:25:34< PetePorty> I can solve *any* problem 20100715 06:25:40< shadowmaster> Espreon: what is the problem? 20100715 06:25:41< PetePorty> :) 20100715 06:26:07< Espreon> shadowmaster: The one that prevents TSL from loading... 20100715 06:26:30< shadowmaster> let me update trunk 20100715 06:26:46< shadowmaster> and I told you he'd be away for a long time 20100715 06:27:09< Espreon> Project Awesomest Project Ever needs to be a success! 20100715 06:27:23< shadowmaster> you mean Project Y. 20100715 06:27:35< Espreon> No, not that one. 20100715 06:27:38< shadowmaster> oh. 20100715 06:28:05< shadowmaster> A trunk/The_Silver_Lands/units/elementals/Kobold.cfg 20100715 06:28:07< shadowmaster> LOL? 20100715 06:28:19-!- Valkier_ [~IceChat7@c-174-55-104-2.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100715 06:28:28< shadowmaster> ahhh, I didn't know they existed outside of D&D 20100715 06:28:31< Valkier_> Huh. Got booted from freenode for a moment. 20100715 06:29:19< Espreon> shadowmaster: Blame esr. 20100715 06:29:53< shadowmaster> you mean "Thank" 20100715 06:30:14< Espreon> Blame, thank, what's the difference? 20100715 06:30:18< shadowmaster> since I've just learned about kobols and their origin in germanic tradition! 20100715 06:30:31< shadowmaster> so now I know! 20100715 06:30:39<+shikadibot> And knowing is half the battle! 20100715 06:30:44< Espreon> Jeß jeß... 20100715 06:31:13-!- Valkier [~IceChat7@c-174-55-104-2.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20100715 06:32:44< esr> Actually, the word for an earth elemental in the original Paracelsus is usually translated as "gnome", but I feel that word in English has drifted in a direction that definitely does not suggest "elemental". 20100715 06:33:08-!- Valkier_ [~IceChat7@c-174-55-104-2.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20100715 06:33:14< shadowmaster> for exmple, it's better known as a desktop environment? 20100715 06:33:18< shadowmaster> oh, creature! 20100715 06:33:40< shadowmaster> Espreon: your campaig n starts for me 20100715 06:33:50< shadowmaster> wesnoth-umc-dev HEAD, Wesnoth r44011 20100715 06:35:20< Espreon> Now to smite my ccache... 20100715 06:36:52< shadowmaster> ccache -C 20100715 06:36:58< shadowmaster> as simple as that. 20100715 06:37:09< Espreon> Jeß jeß... 20100715 06:42:46< shadowmaster> k/74 20100715 06:45:05-!- Valkier_ [~IceChat7@c-174-55-104-2.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100715 06:46:27-!- Aethaeryn [~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20100715 06:49:11-!- Aethaeryn [~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100715 06:51:55-!- Valkier_ [~IceChat7@c-174-55-104-2.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20100715 07:02:39-!- Valkier_ [~IceChat7@c-174-55-104-2.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100715 07:14:27-!- Valkier_ [~IceChat7@c-174-55-104-2.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: REALITY.SYS Corrupted: Re-boot universe? 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Got the basic pose for Hidel down me thinks. 20100715 07:16:24< Valkier> http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/1968/hidellarge.png 20100715 07:17:34-!- PetePorty [~Pete@pc-25-54-120-200.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Quit: Saliendo] 20100715 07:27:19-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Quit: night] 20100715 07:31:48< Espreon> shadowmaster: ... and it still segfaults. 20100715 08:08:24-!- zookeeper [~l@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100715 08:10:18<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7412 /trunk/The_Silver_Lands/docs/elementals: TSL: added moar stuff to 'elementals'. 20100715 08:21:48< Valkier> http://forums.wesnoth.org/download/file.php?id=43115&mode=view 20100715 08:25:31-!- thespaceinvader [~chatzilla@wesnoth/artist/thespaceinvader] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100715 08:43:09-!- timotei [~Timotei@wesnoth/developer/timotei] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100715 08:51:36-!- Aethaeryn [~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has quit [Quit: ...] 20100715 09:21:51-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-76-202-21-28.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20100715 09:22:07-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-76-202-21-28.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100715 09:59:49-!- fendrin [~fabi@88-134-103-91-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100715 09:59:49-!- fendrin [~fabi@88-134-103-91-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Changing host] 20100715 09:59:49-!- fendrin [~fabi@wesnoth/developer/fendrin] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100715 10:54:28-!- Valkier [~IceChat7@c-174-55-104-2.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: I used to think I was indecisive, but now I'm not too sure.] 20100715 11:03:59-!- timotei [~Timotei@wesnoth/developer/timotei] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20100715 11:04:22-!- timotei [~Timotei@wesnoth/developer/timotei] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100715 11:06:05-!- timotei21 [~Timotei@193.34.191.4] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100715 11:08:37-!- timotei [~Timotei@wesnoth/developer/timotei] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20100715 11:10:36-!- zookeeper2 [~l@88-148-228-186.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100715 11:11:53< thespaceinvader> am I ok to add my UMC to the umc-dev SVN? 20100715 11:12:26-!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: zookeeper 20100715 11:32:48-!- timotei21 is now known as timotei 20100715 11:33:13-!- timotei [~Timotei@193.34.191.4] has quit [Changing host] 20100715 11:33:13-!- timotei [~Timotei@wesnoth/developer/timotei] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100715 11:52:51-!- timotei21 [~Timotei@193.34.191.4] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100715 11:54:53-!- zookeeper2 is now known as zookeeper 20100715 11:54:58-!- zookeeper [~l@88-148-228-186.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Changing host] 20100715 11:54:58-!- zookeeper [~l@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100715 11:55:53-!- timotei [~Timotei@wesnoth/developer/timotei] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20100715 12:00:45-!- loonybot [~loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100715 12:00:46-!- mode/#wesnoth-umc-dev [+v loonybot] by ChanServ 20100715 12:01:43-!- loonycyborg [~sergey@wesnoth/developer/loonycyborg] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100715 12:38:24-!- timotei21 is now known as timotei 20100715 12:38:32-!- timotei [~Timotei@193.34.191.4] has quit [Changing host] 20100715 12:38:32-!- timotei [~Timotei@wesnoth/developer/timotei] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100715 12:49:23-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-76-202-21-28.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Blueblaze] 20100715 14:05:01-!- Gambit [~quassel@pa-67-234-73-7.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100715 15:15:17-!- Gambit_ [~quassel@pa-67-234-73-7.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100715 15:16:57-!- Gambit [~quassel@pa-67-234-73-7.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20100715 15:34:59-!- Gambit_ is now known as Gambit 20100715 15:35:29-!- Gambit is now known as Guest83971 20100715 15:35:59-!- Guest83971 is now known as Gambit 20100715 15:44:27-!- Aethaeryn [~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100715 15:54:14-!- timotei [~Timotei@wesnoth/developer/timotei] has quit [Quit: Leaving] --- Log opened Thu Jul 15 16:28:11 2010 20100715 16:28:21-!- lobby [~wesnoth@wesnoth/bot/lobby] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100715 16:28:21-!- Topic for #wesnoth-umc-dev: Shadowmaster's just joined Twitter! OH NOEZ! (he's ShikadiLord, btw) | Wesnoth-UMC-Dev Project discussion and support channel | http://wesnoth-umc-dev.ai0867.net | Staff: AI0867, Espreon, shadowmaster | Project @ SF.net: http://tinyurl.com/umcdev | IRC logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org, http://irclogs.ai0867.net 20100715 16:28:21-!- Topic set by shadowmaster [~ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] [Tue Jul 13 04:52:52 2010] 20100715 16:28:21[Users #wesnoth-umc-dev] 20100715 16:28:21[@ChanServ ] [+wesbot ] [ esr ] [ loonycyborg ] 20100715 16:28:21[+CIA-28 ] [ AI0867 ] [ fendrin] [ shadowmaster ] 20100715 16:28:21[+loonybot ] [ AnMaster] [ Gambit ] [ thespaceinvader] 20100715 16:28:21[+shikadibot] [ Espreon ] [ lobby ] [ zookeeper ] 20100715 16:28:21-!- Irssi: #wesnoth-umc-dev: Total of 16 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 4 voices, 11 normal] 20100715 16:28:22-!- Home page for #wesnoth-umc-dev: http://wesnoth-umc-dev.ai0867.net 20100715 16:28:36-!- Channel #wesnoth-umc-dev created Mon Mar 31 16:51:24 2008 20100715 16:29:34-!- Irssi: Join to #wesnoth-umc-dev was synced in 80 secs 20100715 17:06:02-!- elvish_sovereign [~elvish_so@pool-173-59-71-113.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100715 17:23:13-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100715 17:33:54-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Quit: bye!] 20100715 17:47:35-!- Valkier [~IceChat7@c-174-55-104-2.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100715 17:47:58< Valkier> Did the servers die on us? 20100715 17:48:03< Gambit> shadowmaster: They mentioned something about using wesnoth.org for frogatto downloads if it got really bad 20100715 17:48:24< Gambit> I'm not sure that they actually did that though. 20100715 17:48:44< shadowmaster> hm. 20100715 17:48:50< shadowmaster> Valkier: no, they are just slow like hell. 20100715 17:59:37-!- PetePorty [~Pete@pc-235-252-120-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100715 18:09:36-!- PetePorty [~Pete@pc-235-252-120-200.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20100715 18:09:45-!- PetePorty [~Pete@pc-235-252-120-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100715 18:28:36-!- AnMaster [~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20100715 20:50:05-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-76-202-21-28.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100715 21:43:41-!- loonycyborg [~sergey@wesnoth/developer/loonycyborg] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20100715 21:43:42-!- loonybot [~loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20100715 21:59:23-!- lizard_r [~Rolf@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/lizard] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100715 21:59:58-!- loonycyborg [~sergey@wesnoth/developer/loonycyborg] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100715 22:06:15-!- lizard_r [~Rolf@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/lizard] has left #wesnoth-umc-dev [] 20100715 22:34:10-!- timotei [~Timotei@wesnoth/developer/timotei] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100715 23:01:00-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100715 23:02:35-!- timotei [~Timotei@wesnoth/developer/timotei] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20100715 23:04:34-!- thespaceinvader [~chatzilla@wesnoth/artist/thespaceinvader] has quit [Quit: night all] 20100715 23:21:24< shadowmaster> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=442967#p442967 20100715 23:21:29< shadowmaster> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. 20100715 23:21:34< shadowmaster> HAHAHA. HAAAAHAHAHAHA. 20100715 23:21:35< shadowmaster> HA. 20100715 23:21:49< shadowmaster> ha. heheh. heh what an idiot. 20100715 23:22:11< shadowmaster> I guess he's now planning to submit patches for a Christianity-promoting campaign. 20100715 23:22:14< Espreon> Oh wow... 20100715 23:22:20< Gambit> From his avatar and signature; I wonder if he's conservitive? 20100715 23:22:48< shadowmaster> wesbot: seen noy 20100715 23:22:49<+wesbot> shadowmaster: The person with the nick noy last spoke 3d 11h ago. 3d 6h ago was here and on the channels #wesnoth and #wesnoth-dev with the message: Quit: noy 20100715 23:23:01< shadowmaster> You know, I tend to miss noy. 20100715 23:23:53< shadowmaster> shadowm@bluecore:/media$ uptime 17:23:30 up 3 days, 21:57, 8 users, load average: 0.29, 0.22, 0.17 20100715 23:23:56< shadowmaster> shadowm@bluecore:/media$ 20100715 23:24:09< shadowmaster> so apparently, TOI is doing well. 20100715 23:24:32< shadowmaster> it was starting to increase the hibernation image's size proportional to uptime when using ATI's proprietary driver, but it got better with the free drivers. 20100715 23:24:39< Valkier> shadowmaster: Am I allowed to correct him by calling it zombie christ, or would that be considered flaming? 20100715 23:26:50< shadowmaster> no. 20100715 23:26:54< shadowmaster> please people, ignore him. 20100715 23:27:12< shadowmaster> I'm poking fun at him only because this is IRC and I know he isn't on IRC. 20100715 23:27:29< shadowmaster> if you don't ignore than then you'd be feeding him. 20100715 23:27:47< shadowmaster> (either feeding a troll, or a Christ-fanatic) 20100715 23:28:04< shadowmaster> (both aren't mutually exclusive, btw) 20100715 23:30:15< Gambit> fanactic is synounymous with troll when speaking on the subject they're fanatic about 20100715 23:30:32< shadowmaster> no 20100715 23:30:35< shadowmaster> not necessarily 20100715 23:30:49< shadowmaster> I'm a Linux fan, but I don't troll people about Linux. 20100715 23:31:22< shadowmaster> in fact, I'd not recommend Linux unless I knew that the person I'm talking with is really fit for the world of tinkering with your machine until it goes boom 20100715 23:31:32< Gambit> fanaticism is more extreme than simple fandom 20100715 23:31:37< shadowmaster> no, I've never killed a machine with Linux. 20100715 23:31:57< Gambit> (Did I mention I'm a word game fanatic?) 20100715 23:32:00< shadowmaster> not with Windows either, for that matter. 20100715 23:32:05< shadowmaster> I haven't killed any computers anyway. 20100715 23:32:16< shadowmaster> I drowned a cell phone in the toilet, but that's it. 20100715 23:32:20< Gambit> shadowmaster: you're not a true fanatic! 20100715 23:32:59< Espreon> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=442629#p442629 — Uh... wut? 20100715 23:33:20< shadowmaster> I read it before, ignore it too 20100715 23:33:59< shadowmaster> he's obviously not aiming at canon, so we'll not aim our cannons at him unless he continues with that crap. 20100715 23:34:05< shadowmaster> (HAH!) 20100715 23:36:52< Espreon> http://wesnoth-umc-dev.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/wesnoth-umc-dev/trunk/The_Silver_Lands/macros/items.cfg?view=log — Sigh... 20100715 23:37:03< Espreon> ... and I did use "svn mv"... 20100715 23:39:09< shadowmaster> I bet that if you use svn log on the path directly you'll get the full history anyway 20100715 23:39:31< shadowmaster> * svn log | less (svn log spits everything in a stream otherwise) 20100715 23:41:34< Espreon> Yeah, the history still exists... so... I guess that ViewVC is just being stupid... 20100715 23:42:15< shadowmaster> no, it's doing what you told it to 20100715 23:42:24< shadowmaster> it follows the history as long as the path doesn't change because it works with paths 20100715 23:42:36< shadowmaster> SVN works with pseudofilesystem objects, rather than paths 20100715 23:42:52< Espreon> I see... 20100715 23:46:20< Espreon> Hmmmm... freetype 2.4.0... 20100715 23:47:51-!- zookeeper [~l@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [] 20100715 23:53:03< Gambit> "Also, your inference that I am without religion is incorrect and I am actually torn between two faiths; while your god's promise of eternal life is very persuasive, the Papua New Guinean mud god, Pikkiwoki, is promising a pig and as many coconuts as you can carry." 20100715 23:53:08< Gambit> ^I have to use that some day. --- Log closed Fri Jul 16 00:00:08 2010