--- Log opened Tue Jul 20 00:00:32 2010 20100720 00:12:14-!- BirdFlu is now known as Zerovirus 20100720 00:34:54< Gambit> when is shadowmaster coming back? I have forum commentary to make. :P 20100720 00:36:32< Gambit> Mode +g? 20100720 00:36:44< Gambit> Espreon: Your old english stuff finally made him snap. 20100720 00:36:48< Gambit> He's screening our calls. 20100720 00:39:45< Espreon> Gambit: Nah, he just disabled queries, as he tends to forget about them. 20100720 00:42:10< Zerovirus> Man this dragon is difficult man 20100720 00:42:27< Zerovirus> Well now you know 20100720 00:46:51-!- Zerovirus [62c45c53@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.196.92.83] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20100720 00:46:59< Espreon> OK, Griffith was reborn, but does Femto still exist? 20100720 00:47:14< Espreon> If only Valkier were here. 20100720 00:51:39< PetePorty> it does, but not as an actual 'someone', but as a 'something' 20100720 00:52:14<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: mnewton1 * r7418 /branches/1.8/Ageless_Era/ (8477 files in 227 dirs): 20100720 00:54:20< Espreon> PetePorty: Do you even know to which series these characters belong? 20100720 00:54:31< PetePorty> nope 20100720 00:54:56< Espreon> Yeah, then you are not qualified to answer the question. 20100720 00:57:35< Espreon> Sigh... 20100720 01:00:45<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7419 /trunk/Nightmares_of_Meloen/po/fr.po: NoM: ran umcpropfix. 20100720 01:04:16< Espreon> Ah, the Sun is shining a bit... and 'tis raining. 20100720 01:04:22< Espreon> How lovely... 20100720 01:07:44< Espreon> No rain... come back! 20100720 01:10:39< PetePorty> lol 20100720 01:12:48< PetePorty> ok, I'll be leaving now to have dinner with my uncle.... c ya guys! 20100720 01:12:49-!- PetePorty [~Pete@pc-235-252-120-200.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Quit: Saliendo] 20100720 01:13:14< Espreon> This commit is gonna take forever... 20100720 01:26:21< Espreon> "Units with Italian names? 20100720 01:26:29< Espreon> In _my_ Ageless Era?" 20100720 01:29:23-!- shadowmaster [~ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100720 01:29:28-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100720 01:29:50< shadowmaster> GODDAMMIT. 20100720 01:30:02< Espreon> What? 20100720 01:30:03< shadowmaster> I had to follow a link to geocities 20100720 01:30:11< Espreon> REALLY? 20100720 01:30:15< shadowmaster> damn you Yahoo, damn you! 20100720 01:30:31< Espreon> I thought that Geocities was dead. 20100720 01:30:47< shadowmaster> that doesn't mean that all broken links will magically disappear from the nets 20100720 01:31:04< Espreon> True. 20100720 01:31:08< shadowmaster> I'm cursing because I stumbled upon^W^Wfollowed a broken link 20100720 01:31:26< Espreon> LOL, StumbleUpon. 20100720 01:31:45< Espreon> ... and I'm still not finished with images/ ... 20100720 01:31:51< shadowmaster> nothing to do with that site :| 20100720 01:33:19< Espreon> No tags/ trees for AE! 20100720 01:45:47-!- loonycyborg [~sergey@wesnoth/developer/loonycyborg] has quit [Quit: Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz] 20100720 01:46:27-!- loonybot [~loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20100720 02:13:13-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20100720 02:14:46< Espreon> http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/False_copyright_claims_suspend_Chuggaaconroy,_others_from_YouTube — Well, that's just wrong... 20100720 02:15:34-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has left #wesnoth-umc-dev [] 20100720 02:15:49-!- shadowmaster [~ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has left #wesnoth-umc-dev [] 20100720 02:16:06-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100720 02:19:19-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Client Quit] 20100720 02:20:37-!- Espreon [~espreon@wesnoth/developer/espreon] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20100720 02:30:09-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100720 02:30:25-!- e_s-iOS [~esios@pool-173-59-71-113.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100720 02:32:46-!- e_s-iOS [~esios@pool-173-59-71-113.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has quit [Client Quit] 20100720 02:42:02-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy] 20100720 03:18:48<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7420 /branches/1.8/Ageless_Era/images/ (1052 files in 17 dirs): AE: ran umcpropfix (part one). 20100720 03:34:33<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7421 /branches/1.8/Ageless_Era/images/ (1339 files in 18 dirs): AE: ran umcpropfix (part two). 20100720 03:40:15<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7422 /branches/1.8/Ageless_Era/images/ (410 files in 20 dirs): AE: ran umcpropfix (part three). 20100720 03:40:52-!- fendrin [~fabi@wesnoth/developer/fendrin] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20100720 03:42:36-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100720 03:42:58-!- fendrin [~fabi@wesnoth/developer/fendrin] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100720 03:50:40<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7423 /branches/1.8/Ageless_Era/images/ (186 files in 6 dirs): AE: ran umcpropfix (part four). 20100720 03:52:48-!- esr [~chatzilla@wesnoth/developer/esr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20100720 04:00:11<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7424 /branches/1.8/Ageless_Era/images/ (772 files in 14 dirs): AE: ran umcpropfix (part five). 20100720 04:08:55-!- espreon [~espreon@wesnoth/developer/espreon] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100720 04:09:07-!- espreon is now known as Espeon 20100720 04:09:36-!- Espeon is now known as Guest23476 20100720 04:09:44-!- Guest23476 is now known as Espreon 20100720 04:20:24-!- Aethaeryn [~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100720 04:30:16<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7425 /branches/1.8/Ageless_Era/images/units/ (361 files in 6 dirs): AE: ran umcpropfix (part six). 20100720 04:41:55<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7426 /branches/1.8/Ageless_Era/images/units/ (657 files in 10 dirs): AE: ran umcpropfix (part seven). 20100720 04:54:02<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7427 /branches/1.8/Ageless_Era/images/units/ (178 files in 11 dirs): AE: ran umcpropfix (part eight). 20100720 04:59:58-!- Gambit [~Gambit@pa-67-234-73-7.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Quit: Alone alone alone alone alone alone alone ALONE! I'm thinking why-eee-eye? Superman's dead!] 20100720 05:15:11-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-76-202-21-28.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100720 05:20:46<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7428 /branches/1.8/Ageless_Era/images/units/ (1081 files in 12 dirs): AE: ran umcpropfix (part nine). 20100720 05:28:05<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7429 /branches/1.8/Ageless_Era/images/units/ (542 files in 13 dirs): AE: ran umcpropfix (part ten). 20100720 05:31:23<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7430 /branches/1.8/Ageless_Era/images/units/ (232 files in 8 dirs): AE: ran umcpropfix (part eleven). 20100720 05:32:43<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7431 /branches/1.8/Ageless_Era/images/ (43 files in 2 dirs): AE: ran umcpropfix (twelve). 20100720 05:34:27< Aethaeryn> O.O 20100720 05:34:38<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7432 /branches/1.8/Ageless_Era/ (18 files in 3 dirs): AE: ran dos2unix/mac2unix and umcpropfix (part one). 20100720 05:34:57< Aethaeryn> Espreon: There's no word in the Latin language that I know of that can adquately express what this channel looks like right now. 20100720 05:35:18< Aethaeryn> stop working so hard on AE ;-) 20100720 05:35:30< Espreon> Uh, this is my duty. 20100720 05:35:42< Aethaeryn> 1081... wow 20100720 05:35:55< Aethaeryn> I didn't even know there was that many subdirectories in that era 20100720 05:36:12< Espreon> It's a mess I tell you. 20100720 05:36:19<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7433 /branches/1.8/Ageless_Era/ (55 files in 5 dirs): AE: ran dos2unix/mac2unix and umcpropfix (part two). 20100720 05:36:23< Aethaeryn> This deserves a cat picture 20100720 05:36:28< Aethaeryn> http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-content/uploads/liger.jpg 20100720 05:36:38< Aethaeryn> Since normal cats are too small for your revisions today. 20100720 05:37:03< Espreon> Awww, a liger... thanks! 20100720 05:37:05-!- PetePorty [~Pete@pc-235-252-120-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100720 05:37:08< Aethaeryn> A really damn tall one 20100720 05:37:10< Espreon> Hello PetePorty. 20100720 05:37:22< PetePorty> Hello, Espreon. 20100720 05:37:29< Aethaeryn> Espreon: So that's what I said to the bartender about PetePorty 20100720 05:37:38< Espreon> Yeahz... 20100720 05:37:42< Aethaeryn> oh, hi PetePorty 20100720 05:37:56< PetePorty> Espreon, do you know how to add images in forum posts? 20100720 05:37:59< PetePorty> hi Aethaeryn 20100720 05:38:11< Espreon> [img] I think. 20100720 05:38:21< Espreon> ... or [image]... IDK. 20100720 05:38:25< Aethaeryn> [img]url[/img] 20100720 05:38:30< PetePorty> yes, but... Do I need to upload the image to the internet? 20100720 05:38:31< Aethaeryn> If it's like every other BBcode 20100720 05:38:37< Aethaeryn> you can upload 20100720 05:38:40< Aethaeryn> directly to the forums 20100720 05:38:46< Aethaeryn> just like you can attach emails 20100720 05:38:51< Aethaeryn> same kinda interface 20100720 05:38:56< PetePorty> url=? 20100720 05:38:57< Aethaeryn> the stuff you ignore at the bottom of every post frame 20100720 05:39:05< Aethaeryn> ... 20100720 05:39:14< PetePorty> No, in off-topic I can't.... 20100720 05:39:49< Aethaeryn> http://www.phpbb.com/support/documentation/3.0/userguide/user_control_panel.php#ucp_attachments 20100720 05:39:53< Aethaeryn> This explains it in detail 20100720 05:39:57< PetePorty> I mean... ok, so I need to upload to somewhere and then copy the url in between the [img] things? 20100720 05:40:09< Aethaeryn> yes 20100720 05:40:20< PetePorty> ok... thanks 20100720 05:40:28< PetePorty> where can I upload? 20100720 05:40:31< PetePorty> ideas? 20100720 05:40:45-!- Valkier [~IceChat7@c-174-55-104-2.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100720 05:40:46< Aethaeryn> host your own webserver? 20100720 05:40:48< PetePorty> looking for something without registration and fast... 20100720 05:41:01< PetePorty> nope 20100720 05:41:04< Aethaeryn> oh noez... it's Valkier... 20100720 05:41:05< Aethaeryn> g2g 20100720 05:41:11< Valkier> k 20100720 05:41:15-!- Aethaeryn [~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has left #wesnoth-umc-dev [] 20100720 05:41:15-!- Aethaeryn [~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100720 05:41:19< Aethaeryn> l 20100720 05:41:20< PetePorty> I mean... yeah, but I have no idea how to upload images... 20100720 05:41:24< Aethaeryn> Valkier: hi 20100720 05:41:34< Aethaeryn> cat laying on half my keyboard, sorry, makes it hard to type 20100720 05:41:35< Valkier> Heyas 20100720 05:43:09< PetePorty> lol 20100720 05:43:55< Aethaeryn> oh, I'm sorry. 20100720 05:44:00< Aethaeryn> You missed the picture of my cat 20100720 05:44:09< Aethaeryn> 23:36:35 < Aethaeryn> http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-content/uploads/liger.jpg 20100720 05:45:20-!- King_Elendil [4b8feb68@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.143.235.104] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100720 05:45:44< Aethaeryn> and so that's why monarchy is wrong. 20100720 05:45:47< Aethaeryn> oh hi King_Elendil 20100720 05:46:06< King_Elendil> Hi 20100720 05:47:06< Espreon> Hello King_Elendil. 20100720 05:48:29< Espreon> Aethaeryn: Also, don't tell me to not get involved with AE... I have to... to stop it from being a nuisance. 20100720 05:48:51< Espreon> After all, it breaks some of Gambit's addons, apparently. 20100720 05:48:59< Espreon> IMO, that behavior is unacceptable. 20100720 05:49:04< Aethaeryn> oh 20100720 05:49:08< Aethaeryn> it breaks Gambit's add-ons 20100720 05:49:16< Aethaeryn> Espreon: yeah, stay involved with it then 20100720 05:50:32-!- King_Elendil_ [~King_Elen@75.143.235.104] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100720 05:53:23-!- King_Elendil [4b8feb68@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.143.235.104] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20100720 05:53:23-!- King_Elendil_ is now known as King_Elendil 20100720 05:53:49< Espreon> King_Elendil: So, yeah... I'd be willing to help and stuff. 20100720 05:54:02< King_Elendil> Thanks so much! 20100720 05:54:27< Espreon> King_Elendil: What do you need to implement? 20100720 05:55:33< King_Elendil> what exactly do you mean? (sorry, I'm pretty tired right now) 20100720 05:55:42< King_Elendil> what parts of the story? 20100720 05:55:58< Espreon> Other than scenarios, do you need something complicated implemented? 20100720 05:57:13-!- elvish_sovereign [~elvish_so@pool-173-59-71-113.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: elvish_sovereign] 20100720 05:57:38< Espreon> King_Elendil: Seriously, do you need anything other than scenarios to be implemented? I'm just curious. 20100720 05:58:01< King_Elendil> well, the first ten chapters of the story basically have no fighting in them, so I need to carefully pack as much info in the right amount of story 20100720 05:58:02<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7434 /branches/1.8/Ageless_Era/units/ (1307 files in 79 dirs): AE: ran dos2unix/mac2unix and umcpropfix (part three). 20100720 05:58:19< King_Elendil> make sense? 20100720 05:58:29< Espreon> Yeah. 20100720 05:58:46< Espreon> I guess that I'll need to read the story and think about it for a while. 20100720 05:58:49< Espreon> I'll do so tomorrow. 20100720 05:58:57< King_Elendil> thank you so much 20100720 05:59:02< Espreon> You are welcome. 20100720 05:59:56<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7435 /branches/1.8/Ageless_Era/sounds/ (ckm.wav repair.ogg silence.ogg): AE: ran umcpropfix (part thirteen). 20100720 06:00:10-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100720 06:00:19-!- shadowmaster [~ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100720 06:01:14< shadowmaster> 222222222 20100720 06:01:20< shadowmaster> oops 20100720 06:01:57< King_Elendil> Espreon: I have a couple coders who have expressed to me that they would like to help code the campaign, should they help, or should I try to keep my list of co-developers pretty small? 20100720 06:02:30< shadowmaster> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODQxMA :( 20100720 06:02:36< shadowmaster> poor OpenSolaris. 20100720 06:02:40< Espreon> King_Elendil: Well, is this going to be massive? 20100720 06:02:56< King_Elendil> probably not 20100720 06:03:19< Espreon> OK, I'd keep the list small, but just have people that are willing to help. 20100720 06:03:31< King_Elendil> okay 20100720 06:05:15-!- King_Elendil [~King_Elen@75.143.235.104] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20100720 06:05:51-!- King_Elendil [~King_Elen@75.143.235.104] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100720 06:07:03<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7436 /branches/1.8/Ageless_Era/ (306 files in 10 dirs): AE: ran space2underscore. 20100720 06:09:22 * shadowmaster prepares the announcement for Project Y 20100720 06:09:26-!- crimson_penguin [~ben@wesnoth/developer/crimsonpenguin] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100720 06:09:29-!- crimson_penguin [~ben@wesnoth/developer/crimsonpenguin] has left #wesnoth-umc-dev [] 20100720 06:09:34< Valkier> Project Y? 20100720 06:09:36-!- crimson_penguin [~ben@wesnoth/developer/crimsonpenguin] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100720 06:09:39< shadowmaster> yes 20100720 06:09:41< Valkier> Everyone gets a Y chromosome?! 20100720 06:09:45< Valkier> Oh nooooo! 20100720 06:09:51< shadowmaster> hm...no. 20100720 06:10:03< Valkier> Oh. Then carry on. 20100720 06:10:05< shadowmaster> nothing to do with genetics :p 20100720 06:11:01< Espreon> shadowmaster: You're preparing it for realz? 20100720 06:11:07< shadowmaster> the announcement? 20100720 06:11:22< shadowmaster> yes, because there's some lack of communication around the forums that's starting to bother me hard. 20100720 06:11:29< shadowmaster> e.g. A-Red's posts 20100720 06:12:03< shadowmaster> hm. 20100720 06:12:20< shadowmaster> You know, I was searching for citations in the Developers' discussions forum and found this: 20100720 06:12:26< shadowmaster> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11541 20100720 06:12:50< shadowmaster> I wonder at what point turin really decided to leave the mainline route and make Orvibm something completely different 20100720 06:15:47-!- mnewton1 [ad4be68e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.75.230.142] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100720 06:16:29< shadowmaster> and I can't find the thread I want :| 20100720 06:16:36< Aethaeryn> the point? NRIW 20100720 06:16:40< Aethaeryn> and maybe a few other policies 20100720 06:16:58< shadowmaster> Aethaeryn: huh? 20100720 06:17:05< Aethaeryn> oh noez it's Valkier who just joined the channel 20 minutes ago. gotta go 20100720 06:17:19< shadowmaster> Aethaeryn: stop doing that. 20100720 06:17:21< Aethaeryn> Valkier: in case you're wondering, it's self-targeting humor 20100720 06:17:38< shadowmaster> okay, I'm sure there was a thread regarding some controversy with... 20100720 06:17:41< Aethaeryn> making fun of myself a few days ago 20100720 06:17:49< shadowmaster> maybe I shouldn't even speak of it. 20100720 06:18:07< Aethaeryn> shadowmaster: why the sudden interest in Orvibm? 20100720 06:18:15< shadowmaster> ahh, found it 20100720 06:18:26< shadowmaster> Aethaeryn: it was just a "by the way" wondering 20100720 06:18:37< Aethaeryn> is that project whY? 20100720 06:19:01< shadowmaster> project Y has absolutely nothing to do with Orbivm 20100720 06:19:06< Aethaeryn> k 20100720 06:19:12-!- crimson_penguin [~ben@wesnoth/developer/crimsonpenguin] has left #wesnoth-umc-dev [] 20100720 06:19:28< Aethaeryn> well, my mind has been running on E for about an hour now. 20100720 06:19:30< Aethaeryn> so... 20100720 06:19:34< shadowmaster> I sometimes read the Developers' Discussions thread and it makes me think... 20100720 06:19:45< shadowmaster> *threads 20100720 06:19:49< shadowmaster> stuff... 20100720 06:19:58 * shadowmaster shakes head. 20100720 06:20:11< Aethaeryn> The easy answer: it's all because of sin. 20100720 06:20:18-!- Aethaeryn [~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has quit [Quit: ...] 20100720 06:20:29-!- King_Elendil [~King_Elen@75.143.235.104] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20100720 06:20:29< shadowmaster> forget it, it's too ugly 20100720 06:20:42-!- King_Elendil [~King_Elen@75.143.235.104] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100720 06:20:45< shadowmaster> :/ 20100720 06:22:15< mnewton1> HI, I ran into a bit of a problem. I was trying to update my add-on Ageless Era and when it was nearly done I got the message"(long path) has inconsistent newlines. An unknown Subversion error occurred. (code = 135000)" Any ideas on how to fix this? 20100720 06:22:50< shadowmaster> Espreon: ^ 20100720 06:22:56< Espreon> mnewton1: Nuke it and reco it. 20100720 06:23:02< shadowmaster> ew. 20100720 06:23:11< Espreon> mnewton1: ... or... 20100720 06:23:20< mnewton1> reco? 20100720 06:23:20< shadowmaster> mnewton1: you were trying to update *from* the repository, rather than committing *to* the prepository, right? 20100720 06:23:24< shadowmaster> repository 20100720 06:23:34< shadowmaster> reco = re-checkout 20100720 06:23:55< mnewton1> I was trying to commit to the repository 20100720 06:24:01< Espreon> mnewton1: svn up first. 20100720 06:24:29< mnewton1> svn up? 20100720 06:24:43< shadowmaster> you are on Mac OS X, right? 20100720 06:24:46< mnewton1> Yay 20100720 06:24:48< shadowmaster> 10.5.8 20100720 06:24:57< mnewton1> yay 20100720 06:25:03< shadowmaster> "yay"? 20100720 06:25:07< mnewton1> Yes 20100720 06:25:10< shadowmaster> you mean "yes"? :p 20100720 06:25:26< shadowmaster> you are using Safari. 20100720 06:25:30< mnewton1> Yes 20100720 06:25:36< shadowmaster> :Awesome 20100720 06:25:37< Espreon> Sigh... 20100720 06:25:54< shadowmaster> mnewton1: so try using 'svn up' from your checkout's dir 20100720 06:26:16< shadowmaster> if you are using a graphical frontend, well, use whatever option it has to "update" your tree. 20100720 06:26:25< shadowmaster> there are some changes in the repository that might be relevant for your problem. 20100720 06:27:05< mnewton1> Can I just check it out again then re-add the changes? I am completely new to this :( 20100720 06:27:49< shadowmaster> that'd be rather burdensome, considering the add-on's size :) 20100720 06:28:04< shadowmaster> and you'll need to learn to update your check-out anyway. 20100720 06:28:37< mnewton1> Ok, can walk me threw it as though I don't know anything. 20100720 06:29:09< shadowmaster> well, first of all, are you using the command-line version of svn? 20100720 06:29:34< mnewton1> Nope, I downloaded Versions. 20100720 06:29:57< shadowmaster> I don't know what you mean with that :) 20100720 06:29:59< shadowmaster> (maybe provide us with a link) 20100720 06:30:20< shadowmaster> oh wait 20100720 06:30:28< shadowmaster> it's a client's name :p 20100720 06:30:33< Valkier> http://forums.wesnoth.org/download/file.php?id=43307&mode=view 20100720 06:31:06< shadowmaster> mnewton1: well, it must have a update function then 20100720 06:31:21< shadowmaster> probably around the same place the commit option is located 20100720 06:31:49< mnewton1> It does. The file that it says is giving me the error though is a completely new file 20100720 06:32:05< shadowmaster> hm. path? 20100720 06:32:17< shadowmaster> (or screenshot of the error message) 20100720 06:32:50< mnewton1> Sure, '/Users/Micheal/Library/Application Support/Wesnoth_1.8/data/add-ons/Ageless_Era/data/EotF_era_events.cfg' 20100720 06:33:04< mnewton1> If thats what you wanted... 20100720 06:34:00< mnewton1> It doesn't exist yet though. Can't commit it. 20100720 06:34:24< shadowmaster> hm 20100720 06:34:32 * PetePorty cries 20100720 06:34:38< PetePorty> I suck at spriting... 20100720 06:34:39< shadowmaster> could you PM me the file? 20100720 06:34:45< Espreon> Valkier: Yeah, I'm up to the part where Griffith was reborn. 20100720 06:34:52< Espreon> Does Femto still exist? 20100720 06:35:03< mnewton1> Sure... 20100720 06:35:06< mnewton1> 1 sec 20100720 06:35:07-!- King_Elendil [~King_Elen@75.143.235.104] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20100720 06:35:34-!- King_Elendil [~King_Elen@75.143.235.104] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100720 06:35:48-!- King_Elendil [~King_Elen@75.143.235.104] has quit [Client Quit] 20100720 06:36:36< PetePorty> shadowmaster, how did you start spriting, to become such a good artist? 20100720 06:36:37< mnewton1> Done. 20100720 06:36:44< shadowmaster> PetePorty: I'm not a good artist. 20100720 06:36:54< PetePorty> everyone says you are. 20100720 06:37:12< Espreon> I don't think that I ever did. 20100720 06:37:34< PetePorty> ...A lot of people say you are* 20100720 06:37:47< shadowmaster> mnewton1: try with the version I've just PM'd you 20100720 06:37:54< PetePorty> Espreon, do you think shadowmaster is a good artist? 20100720 06:38:29< mnewton1> Ok 20100720 06:38:30< Espreon> Meh, he's *OK* at the most. 20100720 06:38:34< PetePorty> ... 20100720 06:38:39< shadowmaster> [00:38:33] EIGHTBALL is shadowmaster a good artist? 20100720 06:38:41< shadowmaster> [00:38:33] *GameServ* Never. 20100720 06:38:57< PetePorty> ok.. idc... shadowmaster, how did you start spriting? 20100720 06:39:02< PetePorty> frankies? 20100720 06:39:06< shadowmaster> yes 20100720 06:39:13< shadowmaster> and drawing over them 20100720 06:39:20< PetePorty> for how long, before scratch? 20100720 06:39:22-!- esr [~chatzilla@static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100720 06:39:27< Espreon> PetePorty: If he were a good artist, he wouldn't be so stumped with remaking/whatevering the Shaxthals. 20100720 06:39:42-!- esr [~chatzilla@static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Changing host] 20100720 06:39:42-!- esr [~chatzilla@wesnoth/developer/esr] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100720 06:39:49< PetePorty> Espreon, I really don't care. 20100720 06:39:56< shadowmaster> PetePorty: I haven't made many sprites from scratch, actually 20100720 06:39:58< Espreon> Well, that's what I was told. 20100720 06:40:01< Espreon> PetePorty: ^ 20100720 06:40:09< PetePorty> :/ 20100720 06:40:25< shadowmaster> although Elynia is one of them in her current incarnation. 20100720 06:40:32< PetePorty> awww man... I'm never gonna improve at this... 20100720 06:40:46< shadowmaster> I think it took me at least a year. 20100720 06:41:10< mnewton1> Now it says ageless_era.cfg is the problem. What did you do to the first file to fix it? 20100720 06:41:15< PetePorty> I've been trying to sprite for at least a year... 20100720 06:41:30< PetePorty> and my scratch stuff sucks. 20100720 06:41:33< shadowmaster> mnewton1: I ran it through the "fromdos" utility, which I have here on Linux. 20100720 06:41:42< shadowmaster> not sure if there's any Mac OS X equivalent, hang on a sec 20100720 06:45:54< Espreon> Heh... "mereswine"... 20100720 06:46:03< shadowmaster> mnewton1: what editor are you using? 20100720 06:46:09-!- King_Elendil [~King_Elen@75.143.235.104] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100720 06:46:33< mnewton1> do you mean to edit the files? TextEdit 20100720 06:49:53-!- King_Elendil [~King_Elen@75.143.235.104] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20100720 06:50:34-!- King_Elendil [~King_Elen@75.143.235.104] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100720 06:51:18< shadowmaster> mnewton1: if they aren't many files, you could try the following: 20100720 06:52:59-!- King_Elendil [~King_Elen@75.143.235.104] has quit [Client Quit] 20100720 06:53:20-!- PetePorty [~Pete@pc-235-252-120-200.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Quit: Saliendo] 20100720 06:53:37< Valkier> Espreon: Femto is still around. 20100720 06:53:52< shadowmaster> 00:50:14 well if it's not too many files, he could open them in a browser, copy the contents, paste into the text file - I bet that'd make it normal line endings 20100720 06:53:57< shadowmaster> mnewton1: ^ 20100720 06:54:09< Espreon> Valkier: ... of course... 20100720 06:54:35< shadowmaster> alternatively we could make you run some kind of miniscript to fix every file 20100720 06:55:47< shadowmaster> Espreon: behold and despair at the horrible font rendering here: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=442742#p442742 20100720 06:56:10< shadowmaster> IPS' answer is the most funny.. 20100720 06:56:11< shadowmaster> s/answer/reaction/ 20100720 06:57:17< mnewton1> Where would I copy them into a browser? And do you mean only the edited files? If not, I am going to have to use the script. 20100720 06:58:08< Espreon> shadowmaster: Sigh... I wonder if that guy's using ClearType on Windows. 20100720 06:58:10< shadowmaster> only those files that break svn for you 20100720 06:58:15< Espreon> IPS is just... ugh... 20100720 06:58:33< shadowmaster> mnewton1: also I believe Macs have some kind of text file viewr apart from the text editor? 20100720 06:58:45< shadowmaster> I'm stepping on unknown territory here. I've never used a Mac. :x 20100720 06:58:46< Espreon> Valkier: Does Slan get a decent amount of pagetime? 20100720 06:59:08-!- zookeeper [~l@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100720 06:59:15< Espreon> Hello zookeeper. 20100720 06:59:16< Valkier> I believe so. 20100720 06:59:19< Espreon> Yay! 20100720 06:59:19< mnewton1> Ok... How would you do it on Linux? 20100720 06:59:32< zookeeper> hello. 20100720 07:00:19< shadowmaster> mnewton1: hm, I'd just open a terminal and run fromdos on the guilty files :p 20100720 07:00:26< shadowmaster> or dos2unix 20100720 07:01:02< Espreon> ... and mac2unix. 20100720 07:01:14< shadowmaster> mac2unix is probably irrelevant here 20100720 07:01:14< Espreon> (Yes, I had to actually run "mac2unix" on a file) 20100720 07:01:18< shadowmaster> oh 20100720 07:01:36< shadowmaster> who in the earth would still be using those old macs? 20100720 07:01:52< Espreon> Who knows? 20100720 07:02:21< mnewton1> ...so? What do I do/run 20100720 07:02:49< Valkier> shadowmaster: So how do you think I should make camerin? 20100720 07:03:06< Espreon> mnewton1: Try: "find * -name "*cfg" -print0|xargs -0 dos2unix" 20100720 07:03:25< Espreon> Do a second run, but change "dos2unix" to "mac2unix" 20100720 07:04:16< mnewton1> Ok. I will try that, then fail. I will be back when that happens. :P 20100720 07:05:03< shadowmaster> mnewton1: in a terminal window, in the add-on's echeckout dir 20100720 07:14:01< mnewton1> Just to let you know. I can use several other text editors. Including windows ones if needed. 20100720 07:14:19< mnewton1> Or if they would help or change something in any way. 20100720 07:18:46< shadowmaster> no 20100720 07:18:56< shadowmaster> unless they can normalize line endings 20100720 07:22:34<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: mnewton1 * r7437 /branches/1.8/Ageless_Era/data/ (3 files): AE: Moved EotF info to a new file in data and changed the name of steelhive_stuff.cfg to steelhive_era_events.cfg 20100720 07:23:01< mnewton1> Well that says it all 20100720 07:23:13< mnewton1> Thanks a ton! 20100720 07:24:55< shadowmaster> well, no problem. 20100720 07:28:13<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: mnewton1 * r7438 /branches/1.8/Ageless_Era/eras/AE_stuff.cfg: AE: Minor changed in the eras folder 20100720 07:28:26<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: mnewton1 * r7439 /branches/1.8/Ageless_Era/eras/ageless_era.cfg: AE: Minor changed in the eras folder 20100720 07:28:43< mnewton1> Bye 20100720 07:28:46-!- mnewton1 [ad4be68e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.75.230.142] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20100720 07:32:17< Valkier> There are no black people in Wesnoth. 20100720 07:33:55< shadowmaster> because it doesn't work with sprites. 20100720 07:34:04< shadowmaster> not at our scale anyway. 20100720 07:38:38-!- mnewton1 [ad4be68e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.75.230.142] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100720 07:40:25< Espreon> mnewton1: Back so soon I see... 20100720 07:43:13<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7440 /branches/1.8/Ageless_Era/images/ (116 files in 4 dirs): AE: unset svn:executable from a bunch of stuff. 20100720 07:43:56< Espreon> mnewton1: You wouldn't mind if I were to run wmlindent on AE, would you? 20100720 07:45:07< mnewton1> Not at all 20100720 07:45:24< Espreon> All right. 20100720 07:45:29< mnewton1> Thanks 20100720 07:45:34< Espreon> You are welcome. 20100720 07:46:29<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7441 /branches/1.8/Ageless_Era/ (21 files in 11 dirs): AE: ran wmlindent. 20100720 07:48:40< mnewton1> Now I leaving :P 20100720 07:48:48-!- mnewton1 [ad4be68e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.75.230.142] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20100720 07:49:26<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7442 /branches/1.8/Ageless_Era/units/imperial_units/elves-wild/Windlasher.cfg: AE: fixed an [attack] codeblock. 20100720 07:53:15-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Quit: suspend to RAM] 20100720 07:53:25< shadowmaster> bbiab 20100720 07:53:35< Espreon> LOL, what? 20100720 07:54:45< Valkier> Now I make love to my wacom tablet and give birth to beautiful old children. 20100720 08:15:10-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100720 08:19:27< shadowmaster> Espreon: 20100720 08:19:33< shadowmaster> shikadibot: bbiab? 20100720 08:19:33<+shikadibot> BBIAB: be back in a bit 20100720 08:19:50< Espreon> I see... 20100720 08:20:06< shadowmaster> Espreon: it seems I'm more awesome™ than you are since I knew of the acronym. 20100720 08:20:09< shadowmaster> even shikadibot knew of it. 20100720 08:20:37< Espreon> I don't waste my time with silly acronyms. 20100720 08:20:59< Valkier> wdywtwsa? 20100720 08:21:32< Espreon> ................................ 20100720 08:21:52< Valkier> why don't you waste time with silly acronyms? Duh 20100720 08:22:30< Espreon> I'm not going to bother with this, for I'm busy reading "Berserk". 20100720 08:29:25< Espreon> Well, byez. 20100720 08:29:36 * Espreon disappears... 20100720 08:29:54< shadowmaster> [02:29:47] EIGHTBALL isn't #wesnoth-umc-dev messed up lately with all this Serious Business nonsense? 20100720 08:29:57< shadowmaster> [02:29:47] *GameServ* Yes. 20100720 08:30:02< shadowmaster> ;.( 20100720 08:30:42-!- shadowmaster is now known as NostalgicShadowm 20100720 08:30:57-!- mode/#wesnoth-umc-dev [+o NostalgicShadowm] by ChanServ 20100720 08:31:21-!- NostalgicShadowm changed the topic of #wesnoth-umc-dev to: This project needs a hug! <3 ^_^ | Wesnoth-UMC-Dev Project discussion and support channel | http://wesnoth-umc-dev.ai0867.net | Staff: AI0867, Espreon, shadowmaster | Project @ SF.net: http://tinyurl.com/umcdev | IRC logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org, http://irclogs.ai0867.net 20100720 08:31:28-!- mode/#wesnoth-umc-dev [-o NostalgicShadowm] by NostalgicShadowm 20100720 08:32:12< NostalgicShadowm> WOW. 20100720 08:32:22< NostalgicShadowm> Compose + <, 3 = ♥ 20100720 08:33:48-!- ChanServ changed the topic of #wesnoth-umc-dev to: This project needs a hug! ♥ ☺ ^_^ | Wesnoth-UMC-Dev Project discussion and support channel | http://wesnoth-umc-dev.ai0867.net | Staff: AI0867, Espreon, shadowmaster | Project @ SF.net: http://tinyurl.com/umcdev | IRC logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org, http://irclogs.ai0867.net 20100720 09:50:38< NostalgicShadowm> goddammit 20100720 09:50:51< NostalgicShadowm> wikipedia article on some general subject containing a movie spoiler. WHY?!? 20100720 09:51:22< NostalgicShadowm> fortunately I managed to press the Home button as soon as I saw the movie's name in the line I was reading 20100720 09:51:36< NostalgicShadowm> some people overuse examples. 20100720 09:54:30-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-76-202-21-28.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Blueblaze] 20100720 10:12:10< Valkier> shadowm_laptop: Better Camerin? http://forums.wesnoth.org/download/file.php?id=43314&mode=view 20100720 10:13:31< NostalgicShadowm> yes 20100720 10:14:32< Valkier> All righty! Linework for Camerin and Sister Thera is ready! 20100720 10:14:41< Valkier> Gonna be a fun week. 20100720 10:30:13< NostalgicShadowm> Espreon: http://shadowm.rewound.net/blog/archives/81-Wesnoth-Project-Y.html 20100720 10:31:11< NostalgicShadowm> since I spent most of the last hour writing that crap and it's 4:31 am, I think I deserve to sleep now. 20100720 10:31:16< NostalgicShadowm> bye. 20100720 10:31:24-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [] 20100720 10:33:07-!- timotei [~timotei@wesnoth/developer/timotei] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100720 11:30:29-!- loonybot [~loonybot@ppp79-139-138-39.pppoe.spdop.ru] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100720 11:30:29-!- loonybot [~loonybot@ppp79-139-138-39.pppoe.spdop.ru] has quit [Changing host] 20100720 11:30:29-!- loonybot [~loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100720 11:30:30-!- mode/#wesnoth-umc-dev [+v loonybot] by ChanServ 20100720 11:31:20-!- loonycyborg [~sergey@wesnoth/developer/loonycyborg] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100720 12:31:42-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy] 20100720 12:37:11-!- Valkier [~IceChat7@c-174-55-104-2.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: If your not living on the edge, you're taking up too much space] 20100720 13:00:54-!- timotei21 [~timotei@193.34.191.4] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100720 13:01:22-!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: timotei 20100720 13:03:38-!- Gambit [~Gambit@67.234.73.7] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100720 13:04:19-!- Gambit [~Gambit@67.234.73.7] has quit [Client Quit] 20100720 13:04:40-!- Grickit [~Gambit@pa-67-234-73-7.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100720 13:05:04< Grickit> That was strange. It said I got netsplit out before I had even finished joining. 20100720 13:05:24< Grickit> Or rather everyone else in the network did. :) 20100720 13:05:33< timotei21> Grickit: hi:D 20100720 13:05:43-!- Grickit is now known as Gambit 20100720 13:06:31< Gambit> timotei21: Morning 20100720 13:30:11-!- Netsplit over, joins: timotei 20100720 13:32:27-!- timotei21 [~timotei@193.34.191.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20100720 13:41:16-!- timotei [~timotei@wesnoth/developer/timotei] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20100720 14:42:41-!- timotei [~timotei@wesnoth/developer/timotei] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100720 15:23:02 * Gambit hugs #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100720 15:23:09< Gambit> timotei: Do you have a favorite subforum? 20100720 15:23:19< timotei> oh, no? 20100720 15:23:20< timotei> why? 20100720 15:23:40< Gambit> timotei: (for the purposes of this shameless self advertisement I will pretend you said yes) 20100720 15:24:06< timotei> Gambit: I created just a forum account, but didn't spend too much in int:D 20100720 15:24:11< Gambit> Tired of having to go to the forums every half hour only to be disappointed there are no new posts? 20100720 15:24:24< Gambit> Wish there was something to alert you within 10 minutes of a new post in that subforum? 20100720 15:24:27< Gambit> Well now there is! 20100720 15:24:49< Gambit> Introducing the amazing new IRC bot from Gambit Corp: The Gambot 2.0! 20100720 15:25:06< Gambit> You just subscribe like this 20100720 15:25:19< Gambit> /msg Janebot !subscribe 18 20100720 15:25:23< Gambit> And viola! 20100720 15:25:38< Gambit> You now get alerted of new posts in Art Development 20100720 15:25:43< Gambit> But wait there's more! 20100720 15:25:56< Gambit> If you call within the next 10 minutes we'll tell you that you can subscribe to a comma seperated list! 20100720 15:26:03< Gambit> For only 5 easy payments of $19.99! 20100720 15:27:34< Gambit> 1-800-385-8447 20100720 15:27:38< Gambit> (not a real phone number) :o 20100720 15:28:06< Gambit> timotei: Okay nevermind then 20100720 15:28:44-!- timotei21 [~timotei@193.34.191.4] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100720 15:29:30-!- timotei [~timotei@wesnoth/developer/timotei] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20100720 15:30:02< Gambit> oh no 20100720 15:39:32< timotei21> sorry 20100720 15:39:33< timotei21> split? 20100720 15:39:40< timotei21> reading logs 20100720 15:42:55< timotei21> lol 20100720 15:43:40< timotei21> and how he knows where to send the notifications?:D 20100720 15:43:48< timotei21> Gambit: ? 20100720 15:46:53< Gambit> timotei21: sorry I was cleaning 20100720 15:46:58< timotei21> ? 20100720 15:47:06< Gambit> She knows because she marks who subscribes 20100720 15:47:16< Gambit> Someone has to send the subscription command neh? 20100720 15:47:22< Gambit> That's how the notifications go to 20100720 15:47:29< timotei21> ok 20100720 15:47:29< timotei21> :P 20100720 15:47:41< Gambit> Though I can subscribe channels as I have access to said database 20100720 15:47:49< timotei21> :> 20100720 15:47:58< Gambit> I subscripted #wesnothxp to experimental corner and #wesnoth-music to the music forum. 20100720 15:48:05< Gambit> "subscripted" wtf? 20100720 15:48:13< Gambit> Yes! I made it's font really tiny and lowered it! 20100720 15:48:39< Gambit> *subscribed 20100720 16:06:35-!- King_Elendil [~King_Elen@75.143.235.104] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100720 16:08:53< King_Elendil> "This project needs a hug! ♥ ☺ ^_^"??? 20100720 16:13:28< Gambit> King_Elendil: Well it does 20100720 16:13:59-!- King_Elendil [~King_Elen@75.143.235.104] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20100720 16:14:20-!- King_Elendil [~King_Elen@75.143.235.104] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100720 16:14:40< loonycyborg> It's just an excuse for shadowmaster to put rarely used characters into channel's topic :P 20100720 16:14:55< King_Elendil> oh lol 20100720 16:19:52-!- King_Elendil [~King_Elen@75.143.235.104] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20100720 16:43:48-!- e_s-iOS [~esios@pool-173-59-71-113.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100720 16:44:55-!- Gambit [~Gambit@pa-67-234-73-7.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20100720 16:45:14-!- Gambit [~Gambit@pa-67-234-73-7.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100720 16:48:33-!- e_s-iOS [~esios@pool-173-59-71-113.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has quit [Client Quit] 20100720 16:48:44-!- e_s-iOS [~esios@pool-173-59-71-113.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100720 16:52:12-!- timotei21 is now known as timotei 20100720 16:52:22-!- timotei [~timotei@193.34.191.4] has quit [Changing host] 20100720 16:52:22-!- timotei [~timotei@wesnoth/developer/timotei] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100720 17:26:40-!- e_s-iOS [~esios@pool-173-59-71-113.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iOS - 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I didn't know about this 20100720 21:23:25< timotei> :P 20100720 21:23:31< timotei> so it's my first mistake 20100720 21:23:34< Valkier> Where's TSI and esr when you need them? 20100720 21:23:47< timotei> usually first mistakes are forgotten:-S 20100720 21:24:09< Valkier> tomotei: I was getting banned from this channel every day for a while. I wouldn't sweat it. 20100720 21:24:21< Gambit> s/banned/quieted/ 20100720 21:24:28< Gambit> or kicked 20100720 21:24:30< Valkier> Nope. Kicked and banned. 20100720 21:26:17< Valkier> Course, it was for telling him to get Windows 7. 20100720 21:26:27< Valkier> Not sure anyone would seriously get mad over that. 20100720 21:32:51< timotei> I'm not tomotei :)) 20100720 21:33:05< timotei> well, NostalgicShadowm what don't you like at Windows 7?:P 20100720 21:33:14< timotei> I think you just pissed him off 20100720 21:33:24< timotei> Valkier: next time come with some technical arguments:)) 20100720 21:33:30< timotei> Valkier: maybe ... he won't get pissed:P 20100720 21:35:15< Valkier> nah, he does. 20100720 21:41:01-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100720 22:14:11-!- e_s-iOS [~esios@pool-173-59-71-113.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100720 22:15:29-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100720 22:16:54< NostalgicShadowm> loonycyborg: ... 20100720 22:17:31< PetePorty> (I enjoy when he kicks people from the channel) guess what, me too. 20100720 22:17:44< PetePorty> this will be fun 20100720 22:18:00-!- mode/#wesnoth-umc-dev [+q *!*@pc-235-252-120-200.cm.vtr.net] by ChanServ 20100720 22:18:04< e_s-iOS> ***HUG*** 20100720 22:18:41< e_s-iOS> You said the project needed a hug, right? 20100720 22:18:44< e_s-iOS> There you go 20100720 22:18:53< NostalgicShadowm> ^_^ 20100720 22:18:57< timotei> hi NostalgicShadowm 20100720 22:19:17< NostalgicShadowm> but please redirect all hugs to Espre0n (except with an "o" rather than a "0") 20100720 22:19:34< NostalgicShadowm> he's the one who needs more love. 20100720 22:19:38< e_s-iOS> Espreon: ***HUG*** 20100720 22:23:08< e_s-iOS> shikadibot: ***HUG*** 20100720 22:23:08 * shikadibot is offended 20100720 22:23:15< e_s-iOS> -_- 20100720 22:23:19< e_s-iOS> xD 20100720 22:30:19-!- PetePorty [~Pete@pc-235-252-120-200.cm.vtr.net] has left #wesnoth-umc-dev [] 20100720 22:46:29< Gambit> NostalgicShadowm: Hey guess what? 20100720 22:46:39< Gambit> NostalgicShadowm: forum subscriptions are live and working well 20100720 22:47:02< Gambit> NostalgicShadowm: instead of email spam you could get IRC highlighted for the website forum! 20100720 22:47:29< NostalgicShadowm> same thing. 20100720 22:47:36< NostalgicShadowm> except even more annoying. 20100720 22:48:07< Gambit> NostalgicShadowm: You make me sad. 20100720 22:48:15< NostalgicShadowm> ^________^ 20100720 22:48:22< NostalgicShadowm> cheer up, emo kid! 20100720 22:48:34< Gambit> NostalgicShadowm: You know what would make me happy? 20100720 22:48:44< NostalgicShadowm> that Turuk was back. 20100720 22:48:53< Gambit> If the next time I logged into mysql and SELECT * FROM subscriptions 20100720 22:48:59< Gambit> I saw your name with a valid list :) 20100720 22:49:09< Gambit> || turuk came back 20100720 22:49:36< Gambit> || my bot could start integrating with the forums in some way 20100720 22:50:18< Gambit> NostalgicShadowm: I have an idea! 20100720 22:50:24< Gambit> What if I made a thread called "Server status" 20100720 22:50:27< Gambit> and you stickied it 20100720 22:50:36< Gambit> and the bot could PING lobby every once in a while 20100720 22:50:43< Gambit> and edit the thread if the condition changes 20100720 22:50:47< NostalgicShadowm> that's ridiculous. 20100720 22:50:57< Gambit> NostalgicShadowm: It's all the rage! 20100720 22:50:59< NostalgicShadowm> firstly because lobby can be down without the whole of wesnoth.org being down. 20100720 22:51:07< Gambit> NostalgicShadowm: Exactly! 20100720 22:51:17< Gambit> Wouldn't lobby leave IRC if it was down? 20100720 22:51:20< NostalgicShadowm> secondly because you shouldn't rely on lobby being able to reply to CTCP messages. 20100720 22:51:43< NostalgicShadowm> thirdly because lobby can be down without the whole of wesnoth.org being down. 20100720 22:51:55< Gambit> [16:51:20] Wouldn't lobby leave IRC if it was down? 20100720 22:52:00< Gambit> brb 20100720 22:52:06< NostalgicShadowm> fourthly because IF THE DAMN SERVER IS DOWN THE FORUMS ARE ALSO DOWN! 20100720 22:52:45< NostalgicShadowm> so you can't edit forum post if the server is down or apache or mysqld are not running. 20100720 22:52:50< NostalgicShadowm> posts 20100720 22:53:05< NostalgicShadowm> FAIL. 20100720 22:53:20< NostalgicShadowm> you lose at basic networking concepts. 20100720 23:00:58< Gambit> NostalgicShadowm: true on that last one, but if the whole website is down, then the lobby's status is pretty obvious neh? 20100720 23:01:43< Gambit> NostalgicShadowm: speaking of ping though those numbers I asked you about the other day 20100720 23:01:55< Gambit> I found out today that that is the number of seconds since Jan 1st 1970 20100720 23:01:57< NostalgicShadowm> sigh. 20100720 23:02:07< NostalgicShadowm> that's a timestamp, of course. 20100720 23:02:30< NostalgicShadowm> in Unix, time_t values are based on the Unix epoch, which is January 1st 1970 20100720 23:02:52< NostalgicShadowm> that means that (time_t)0 is 1970-01-01 20100720 23:03:11< NostalgicShadowm> TS deltification is used a lot on IRC for both CTCP and STS protocols 20100720 23:03:15< Gambit> yeah so my bot now responds to ping and version 20100720 23:03:26< NostalgicShadowm> TS = timestamp, STS = server-to-server 20100720 23:03:41< Gambit> NostalgicShadowm: And the other day you told me you didn't know, so I figured it couldn't hurt to tell you what I learned today. 20100720 23:03:54< Gambit> ah deltification 20100720 23:03:57< Gambit> that's the word you used 20100720 23:04:02< NostalgicShadowm> in particular, freenode currently runs on ircds that use a modified TS6 protocol, which relies heavily on timestamping for status synchronization between servers. 20100720 23:04:31< NostalgicShadowm> what I didn't know is exactly what the CTCP PING values are, i.e. timestamps or timestamp deltas. 20100720 23:05:07< Gambit> At first I was just sending back the same value and it was giving some outrageously high value 20100720 23:05:23< Gambit> Then I figured out what it was but couldn't get it so it was still in like the 200,000 range 20100720 23:05:28< Gambit> Then I was 6 time zones off 20100720 23:05:32< Gambit> But now it works. 20100720 23:06:01< NostalgicShadowm> loonybot << time(0); 20100720 23:06:07<+loonybot> 1279659863 20100720 23:07:18< NostalgicShadowm> date +%s provides the current time in time_t terms as well with GNU coreutils 20100720 23:07:26< NostalgicShadowm> that is, with most GNU/* distributions 20100720 23:15:39< NostalgicShadowm> Gambit: don't expect a version reply here. 20100720 23:16:43< Gambit> ha 20100720 23:17:00< Gambit> s/Nostalgic/Ninja Secret Agent Spy/ 20100720 23:17:13< Gambit> s/ //whatever the flag is for all 20100720 23:18:09< NostalgicShadowm> g 20100720 23:18:27< NostalgicShadowm> s/foo/bar/g 20100720 23:19:31< NostalgicShadowm> and if using x you need to escape whitespace like \s, but note that \s works in any mode as a wildcard for anything that your system may consider whitespace, including linefeeds, carriage returns, horizontal tabstops and vertical tabstops 20100720 23:27:24-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-76-202-21-28.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100720 23:50:03< Gambit> "30, which reminds me, I need to post in my rants to keep it from getting pruned." 20100720 23:50:05< Gambit> I lol'd. 20100720 23:50:10< Gambit> The post is gone now. 20100720 23:50:47< NostalgicShadowm> you "louded"? 20100720 23:51:12< Gambit> I laugh out louded 20100720 23:51:35< Gambit> NostalgicShadowm: acronym apostrophe D is an accepted practice on the nets! 20100720 23:52:07< Blueblaze> Valkier: do you like BMW or Lexus? 20100720 23:53:25< NostalgicShadowm> Gambit: that doesn't mean it is good. 20100720 23:53:49< NostalgicShadowm> For example, HTML 5's specifications for