--- Log opened Wed Jul 21 00:00:46 2010
20100721 00:06:24< Espreon> NostalgicShadowm: Nice.
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20100721 00:07:13< NostalgicShadowm> Espreon: what is nice?
20100721 00:07:27< Espreon> The announcement.
20100721 00:07:28< NostalgicShadowm> the announcement, or the fact that OpenSolaris could die?
20100721 00:07:29< NostalgicShadowm> ah
20100721 00:11:09< Espreon> NostalgicShadowm: Now what?
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20100721 00:11:36< NostalgicShadowm> now we publicize the announcement in the forusm
20100721 00:11:38< NostalgicShadowm> forums
20100721 00:12:16< NostalgicShadowm> somehow.
20100721 00:17:40< Gambit> one flaw with installing ubuntu through wubi; the default swap space is 255mb
20100721 00:17:48< Gambit> Not enough to suspend or hibernate.
20100721 00:19:10< NostalgicShadowm> it shouldn't need swap space to suspend to RAM.
20100721 00:19:22< Espreon> People actually use wubi?
20100721 00:19:40< NostalgicShadowm> hibernation usually requires at least 1 times the currently used RAM in terms of free swap space
20100721 00:20:30< NostalgicShadowm> it's recommended to have a swap space at least as large as the ttotal RAM in any case, since border cases can cause unstability
20100721 00:20:59< NostalgicShadowm> for hibernating, that is.
20100721 00:21:29< Gambit> (possibly stupid question) why is it not possible to suspend to the harddrive?
20100721 00:21:44< NostalgicShadowm> hibernation *is* suspend-to-disk
20100721 00:22:09< Gambit> hmmm
20100721 00:22:10< NostalgicShadowm> but for hibernating, the unpatched Linux kernel needs to make use of allocated swap space, generally from the first swap partition.
20100721 00:22:32< Gambit> Yeah and that's where my problem comes in...
20100721 00:22:33< NostalgicShadowm> the Tux-on-Ice patch provides more advanced forms of hibernation but it's not part of the mainline kernel.
20100721 00:22:43< Gambit> I tired this: "You can use qemu-img for that. Another dirty (but working) trick is to copy any other file of the desired size to C:\wubi\disks and rename it "root.disk", "home.disk", "swap.disk" or "extra.disk". That's the Wubi equivalent of buying (and installing) a new hard disk." once
20100721 00:22:47< Gambit> Then I had 0.
20100721 00:23:28< NostalgicShadowm> TOI allows such things like using a specific partition that isn't being used as swap space, using a swap file or hibernation image file to store the RAM contents instead, it also allows encryption, compression, etc.
20100721 00:23:43< NostalgicShadowm> *for
20100721 00:24:20< NostalgicShadowm> in any case, wubi is intended only to make it easy for users to get familiarized with Linux without installing it for real
20100721 00:25:01< NostalgicShadowm> so if anything you should consider backing up your most important files from the Windows partition and installing Linux. Most installers nowadays can resize NTFS or FAT32 partitions.
20100721 00:25:36< Gambit> It just sounds so permanent...
20100721 00:26:34< NostalgicShadowm> it is permanent.
20100721 00:26:52< NostalgicShadowm> although it is possible to remove the Linux partitions and then extend a NTFS partition to use the remaining unallocated space
20100721 00:27:38< NostalgicShadowm> that's not possible with FAT32, however.. Apparently the way FAT32 stores information about the filesystem is very dependent on the physical locations on the disk :x
20100721 00:27:50< NostalgicShadowm> unlike NTFS, Ext2/3 and such
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20100721 00:35:39< NostalgicShadowm> Espreon: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=444103#p444103
20100721 00:35:58< NostalgicShadowm> Espreon: something that I'd really like to be cleared up is who is the mastermind of all this stuff.
20100721 00:36:04< NostalgicShadowm> so far it seems people assume that either you or the artists are in charge.
20100721 00:37:03< Espreon> Jeß jeß...
20100721 00:37:23< NostalgicShadowm> I DON'T WANT A YES YES FOR ANSWER.
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20100721 00:42:41< Gambit> fail plan was fail
20100721 00:46:19< Gambit> Amazing. My 5yo brother is so used to laptops, he does not know the difference between the CPU's power button and the monitor's.
20100721 00:46:38< Gambit> I'd correct this, but he really shouldn't be playing with the computer he's attempting to boot atm.
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20100721 02:01:44< NostalgicShadowm> ahhh, gelatine desserts. The best thing since the invention of the wheel.
20100721 02:08:22< Gambit> *gelatinous
20100721 02:08:40< Gambit> Espreon: Right?
20100721 02:08:52< NostalgicShadowm> gelatinous is an adjective.
20100721 02:08:57< NostalgicShadowm> gelatine is a noun.
20100721 02:09:04< NostalgicShadowm> these desserts aren't just gelatinous. THEY ARE MADE OF GELATINE.
20100721 02:09:16< Gambit> Okay well a noun can't describe another noun.
20100721 02:09:24< Gambit> so gelatine deserts doesn't work.
20100721 02:09:27< NostalgicShadowm> actually, they are 100% gelatine
20100721 02:09:31< Gambit> deserts is a noun
20100721 02:09:38< NostalgicShadowm> Gambit: they aren't describing anything
20100721 02:09:38< Gambit> *desserts
20100721 02:09:40< NostalgicShadowm> and it's desserts, yu fool.
20100721 02:09:42< NostalgicShadowm> you
20100721 02:09:42< Gambit> and gelatine
20100721 02:09:45< NostalgicShadowm> FOOL!
20100721 02:09:46< Gambit> FOOL!
20100721 02:09:52< NostalgicShadowm> FOOL!
20100721 02:10:02< Gambit> NostalgicShadowm: so gelatinous desserts is gramatically correct
20100721 02:10:09< Gambit> Espreon: back me up here jeß?
20100721 02:10:14< NostalgicShadowm> FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!
20100721 02:10:45< NostalgicShadowm> he won't back any of us up anyway since "gelatine" is some "frenchie" word
20100721 02:10:55< Espreon> Well, it is.
20100721 02:10:55< NostalgicShadowm> he prefers Jell-O™
20100721 02:11:04< Gambit> jellatinous
20100721 02:11:24< NostalgicShadowm> because he doesn't care about having to acknowledge trademarks on every sentence
20100721 02:11:47< NostalgicShadowm> im out of the matter. This is a fight between you and me.
20100721 02:11:59< NostalgicShadowm> *So, leave him out of the matter.
20100721 02:12:21< NostalgicShadowm> *cue Western movie music*
20100721 02:13:13< Gambit> bwa bwa bwa
20100721 02:13:21< Gambit> *a tumbleweed rolls through*
20100721 02:13:32 * Gambit 's hand hovers over his holster
20100721 02:13:58 * NostalgicShadowm quickly shoots Gambit with a bazooka.
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20100721 02:14:13< Espreon> Hmmmmm... frozen... something.
20100721 02:14:27< Gambit> NostalgicShadowm: But we didn't walk 20 paces away from each other.
20100721 02:14:38< NostalgicShadowm> yeah, because I cheated
20100721 02:14:54< Gambit> Cheaters never win.
20100721 02:14:59< Gambit> So either I won or it was a draw. :D
20100721 02:15:07< Gambit> Either way is a step up for me.
20100721 02:15:26< NostalgicShadowm> let's ask a third party.
20100721 02:15:33< Gambit> No
20100721 02:15:35< Gambit> Leave them out of this
20100721 02:15:40< NostalgicShadowm> shikadibot: what do you think?
20100721 02:15:44< Gambit> This is a fight between you and me.
20100721 02:15:46<+shikadibot> Shadowmaster wins.
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20100721 02:16:00< Gambit> Janebot: Who wins?
20100721 02:16:06< Blueblaze> Janebot: I do!
20100721 02:16:07< Blueblaze> :D
20100721 02:16:07<+shikadibot> I'm not allowed to say otherwise. It's in my programming.
20100721 02:16:13< Janebot> Gambit:  A person. Oh, you can't say I'm wrong on that, can you?
20100721 02:16:19< Gambit> Janebot: you suck
20100721 02:16:23< Gambit> Janebot: !part #wesnoth-umc-dev
20100721 02:16:30< Gambit> errr
20100721 02:16:35<+shikadibot> fail
20100721 02:16:44< Gambit> Janebot: !part #wesnoth-umc-dev bye
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20100721 02:17:25< Gambit> shikadibot: You can't even learn new acronyms when your own tiny memory bank fails to have a definition. Who are you calling fail?
20100721 02:17:37< Gambit> shikadibot: You have to be restarted every time a change is made to you.
20100721 02:17:47< NostalgicShadowm> hey, don't speak like that to shikadibot!
20100721 02:17:48<+shikadibot> hey NostalgicShadowm
20100721 02:17:54< Gambit> shikadibot: You rely on an IRC client.
20100721 02:18:02<+shikadibot> ;.(
20100721 02:18:04< Espreon> Children, children, let's just call it "frozenstuff".
20100721 02:18:13< Gambit> Espreon: Jello is not frozen
20100721 02:18:21< Gambit> it is heated, supersaturated, and then cooled
20100721 02:18:24<+shikadibot> Gambit: technically, bots are always IRC clients.
20100721 02:18:30< NostalgicShadowm> Jell-Otm
20100721 02:18:39< Espreon> Gambit: Shut up, I'm looking at etymologies; you are not.
20100721 02:18:45< NostalgicShadowm> I mean Jell-O™
20100721 02:18:53< Gambit> Espreon: I am using chemistry, you are not.
20100721 02:18:57< NostalgicShadowm> it's not Jello, it's Jell-O™
20100721 02:19:02< Gambit> NostalgicShadowm: Tag team vs Espreon?
20100721 02:19:08< Espreon> "Gelatine" is derived from some Italian word which is in turn derived from a verb meaning "to freeze".
20100721 02:19:11< Espreon> Gambit: ^
20100721 02:19:22< NostalgicShadowm> Gambit: I work alone™.
20100721 02:19:25< Gambit> Espreon: Well they don't know what they're talking about.
20100721 02:19:30< Gambit> NostalgicShadowm: But I can be your side kick!
20100721 02:19:37< Gambit> [insert tvtrope for unwanted side kick]
20100721 02:19:40< NostalgicShadowm> I work alone™.
20100721 02:19:42< Gambit> (there must be one right?)
20100721 02:19:59< NostalgicShadowm> my sidekicks tend to suffer...tragic...fates.
20100721 02:20:14< NostalgicShadowm> so I work alone™.
20100721 02:20:18< NostalgicShadowm> nowadays.
20100721 02:20:27< Gambit> Now that *must* be a trope
20100721 02:20:51< Espreon> Gambit: Well, you obviously fail at life.
20100721 02:22:29< Gambit> Part needs to supply a default message when one is not found...
20100721 02:22:31 * Gambit goes to fix
20100721 02:22:42< NostalgicShadowm> People, we have...a TROPE!
20100721 02:22:48< NostalgicShadowm> http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Trope
20100721 02:23:05< Espreon> No...
20100721 02:23:06< NostalgicShadowm> Insert picture of Awesome here.
20100721 02:34:27< Espreon> Let's just be silly and call the shit "frozenhop".
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20100721 02:57:41< Gambit> okay I dunno what this wireless markup language is
20100721 02:57:47< Gambit> but I am google bombing our wikipage
20100721 02:57:52< Gambit> WML reference should go their :@
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20100721 02:59:30< Gambit> *there
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20100721 05:15:46< un214> so, time for another story of wose release
20100721 05:18:19< un214> unfortunately since I'm rebased on the branch my tag-release script doesn't work
20100721 05:18:30< un214> not quite sure what the tag command should be
20100721 05:18:54< un214> shadowmaster (shadowm_laptop), you there?
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20100721 05:21:21<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: un214 * r7443 /branches/1.8/Story_of_Wose/ (changelog dist/VERSION): 0.7.3 release
20100721 05:25:02< un214> About to issue svn cp https://wesnoth-umc-dev.svn.sf.net/svnroot/wesnoth-umc-dev/branches/1.8/Story_of_Wose https://wesnoth-umc-dev.svn.sv.net/svnroot/wesnoth-umc-dev/tags/1.8/Story_of_Wose/0.7.2
20100721 05:25:16< un214> if its wrong better tell me now
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20100721 05:28:06< NostalgicShadowm> it'sokay
20100721 05:28:10< NostalgicShadowm> it's okay I mean
20100721 05:28:19< NostalgicShadowm> except that you mean sf.net instead of sv.net
20100721 05:28:19< un214> it wasn't
20100721 05:28:30< NostalgicShadowm> and you probably mean sourceforge.net instead of sf.net
20100721 05:28:34< un214> tags/1.8/Story_of_Wose didn't work
20100721 05:28:58< NostalgicShadowm> shikadibot: dir /tags/1.8
20100721 05:28:58<+shikadibot> Web interface URL to directory /tags/1.8: http://wesnoth-umc-dev.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/wesnoth-umc-dev/tags/1.8
20100721 05:29:05< un214> I probably need to issue a server mkdir
20100721 05:29:19< NostalgicShadowm> let me see
20100721 05:29:29< NostalgicShadowm> yeah, Story_of_Wose doesn't exist yet there.
20100721 05:29:31< NostalgicShadowm> I can do that.
20100721 05:30:45< NostalgicShadowm> done
20100721 05:30:53<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: shikadilord * r7444 /tags/1.8/Story_of_Wose/: Admin: create tags dir for Story_of_Wose (1.8 branch)
20100721 05:31:48<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: un214 * r7445 /tags/1.8/Story_of_Wose/0.7.2/: tagging for 0.7.2 release
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20100721 05:35:34< un214> and uploaded
20100721 05:35:37<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: un214 * r7446 /branches/1.8/Story_of_Wose/dist/VERSION: post-release-VERSION
20100721 05:41:17< un214> great
20100721 05:41:24< un214> I confused my self and released two 0.7.2
20100721 05:41:32< un214> oh well re-release this as 0.7.3
20100721 05:43:28<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: un214 * r7447 /branches/1.8/Story_of_Wose/dist/VERSION: 0.7.3 release
20100721 05:44:22<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: un214 * r7448 /tags/1.8/Story_of_Wose/0.7.3/: tag for 0.7.3
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20100721 05:45:28< un214> re-uploaded
20100721 05:47:27< King_Elendil> Hey guys, I'm starting a UMC Campaign, and Espreon is trying to set me up with the "wesnoth-umc-dev benefits". 
20100721 05:47:27< King_Elendil> He told me to get Fink and something about vanilla SVN. Can someone help me out setting this up? 
20100721 05:47:29< King_Elendil> I have Fink downloaded and set-up (I think). In Terminal (I'm on a Mac), Espreon had me run the script "fink install svn". 
20100721 05:47:29< King_Elendil> What do I do next?
20100721 05:47:29<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: un214 * r7449 /branches/1.8/Story_of_Wose/dist/VERSION: 0.7.3+svn post-release-VERSION
20100721 05:49:12< shadowmaster> Espreon: ^
20100721 05:50:07< un214> test svn: svn co https://wesnoth-umc-dev.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/wesnoth-umc-dev/trunk/Story_of_Wose
20100721 05:50:28< un214> of course that's not where your campaign goes so you can delete it after you verify checkout works
20100721 05:51:07< un214> unfortunately Expreon will have to set you up and he's AFK right now
20100721 05:51:44< un214> there's an "Espreon disappears" in my scrollback buffer
20100721 05:54:30< un214> Story of the Wose seems to be the non-mainline campaign under development/maintained for the longest time
20100721 05:59:07< un214> Unfortunately for Espreon I just disconvered he changed trunk Story_of_Wose
20100721 05:59:53< un214> and didn't get the branch
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20100721 06:25:06< shadowmaster> *snf*
20100721 06:25:14< shadowmaster> I'm reading some of Espreon's older posts.
20100721 06:25:22< shadowmaster> ;_; I miss those times.
20100721 06:37:47< King_Elendil> Well, I guess he's not coming back tonight, so Good Night all :)
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20100721 06:55:46<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: mnewton1 * r7450 /branches/1.8/Ageless_Era/factions/factions/ (37 files in 4 dirs): AE: Bug fixes in faction folder
20100721 06:57:56<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: mnewton1 * r7451 /branches/1.8/Ageless_Era/factions/: ...
20100721 06:58:50<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: mnewton1 * r7452 /branches/1.8/Ageless_Era/factions/ (37 files in 4 dirs): AE: Bug fixes in faction folder
20100721 07:10:52<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: mnewton1 * r7453 /branches/1.8/Ageless_Era/credits_and_stuff/: ...
20100721 07:11:17<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: mnewton1 * r7454 /branches/1.8/Ageless_Era/credits_and_stuff/ (11 files): AE: Updating Credits folder
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20100721 07:41:00< Valkier> http://forums.wesnoth.org/download/file.php?id=43364&mode=view
20100721 07:49:05< shadowmaster> finally, a main character who isn't blonde.
20100721 07:49:29< Valkier> lol
20100721 07:49:32< shadowmaster> or a red-head.
20100721 07:49:36< Valkier> The others are elves. Blame your lore.
20100721 07:49:46< shadowmaster> and Konrad and Tallin?
20100721 07:50:03< Valkier> Tallin I'm being forced to make Blond.
20100721 07:50:08< Valkier> Konrad is out of my hands.
20100721 07:50:21< shadowmaster> I wasn't talking of just NR, but mainline campaigns in general.
20100721 07:50:24< Valkier> ahh
20100721 07:50:27< shadowmaster> Malin is also blonde.
20100721 07:50:35< Valkier> Well the third reich and all...
20100721 07:51:20< shadowmaster> in any case, non-blond elves do exist in Wesnoth.
20100721 07:51:30< shadowmaster> it's just that they aren't depicted in any mainline campaign :(
20100721 07:51:30< Valkier> Not according to esr. :-P
20100721 07:51:36< shadowmaster> esr: what the hell?
20100721 07:51:44< Valkier> He's off having tea and sex or something.
20100721 07:51:52< shadowmaster> dammit
20100721 07:51:58< shadowmaster> I demand an explanation now.
20100721 07:52:06< Valkier> First thing he told me. "Elves are blonde!"
20100721 07:52:31< Valkier> Seems to me that anything living in a forest through natural evolution would have darker colors in order to blend in.
20100721 07:52:33< Valkier> But whateve.r
20100721 07:52:58< shadowmaster> it seems to me that for elves, blond is the mpredominant hair color, but not the only one
20100721 07:53:09< shadowmaster> there *are* plans to have their hair selected at random on recruit at some point in the future
20100721 07:53:41< shadowmaster> Jetrel's work on the new elves is intended to build the path for implementing that.
20100721 07:53:59< shadowmaster> and that's also why I implemented the ~PAL() functor.
20100721 07:54:00< Valkier> We're getting new elf sprites?
20100721 07:54:03< shadowmaster> yes
20100721 07:54:06< Valkier> oooo
20100721 07:54:18< Valkier> Why though? I thought the current ones were pretty well done.
20100721 07:54:42< shadowmaster> according to Jetrel, they are not pixel-art-enough.
20100721 07:54:50< shadowmaster> they are blurry in some frames, their palette is not standarized, etc.
20100721 07:55:14< shadowmaster> he also needs to redesign the Shyde and the Sylph to give them standing animations anyway
20100721 07:55:16< Valkier> I see, I see.
20100721 07:55:30< Valkier> aww. I liked the floaty elves.
20100721 07:56:11< shadowmaster> http://www.wesnoth.org/jetrel/Wesnoth/elf-archer-comp.png
20100721 07:56:51< Valkier> That's what he's done to them?
20100721 07:57:09< shadowmaster> so far, that's what he's showed to us.
20100721 07:57:15< Valkier> Ahh
20100721 07:57:18< Valkier> Hmmm
20100721 07:57:19< shadowmaster> none of those frames have been committed since he's not finished his work yet.
20100721 07:57:52< Valkier> Uh oh. Looks like some of them have metal.
20100721 07:58:21< shadowmaster> they aren't burnt by any metal either.
20100721 07:58:31< shadowmaster> it's just steel, basically. Other metals don't harm them
20100721 07:58:41< Valkier> Wait wait. They get burnt by metal?
20100721 07:58:46< shadowmaster> or iron.
20100721 07:58:48< shadowmaster> yes.
20100721 07:58:53< Valkier> Who the hell decided that faggotry?
20100721 07:58:56< shadowmaster> esr.
20100721 07:59:03< Valkier> Explination is demanded!
20100721 07:59:17< Valkier> There seems to be a natural process ignored here.
20100721 07:59:23< Valkier> They can't make steel without iron!
20100721 07:59:41< shadowmaster> 01:58:46 <shadowmaster> or iron.
20100721 07:59:51< Valkier> ok then
20100721 07:59:57< Valkier> They still missed their own damn bronze age.
20100721 08:00:01< shadowmaster> ah well, when I said stell I meant that steel harms them
20100721 08:00:04< shadowmaster> *steel
20100721 08:00:19< shadowmaster> hm, I can't remember whether it was steel or iron. Best ask esr.
20100721 08:00:20< Valkier> ooh, I see.
20100721 08:00:32< Valkier> So they have inferior weapons then.
20100721 08:00:52< shadowmaster> they are made with other metals AFAIRemember
20100721 08:00:58< Valkier> Well in any case they either have shitty weapons or they defy logic.
20100721 08:01:05< shadowmaster> but yes, there's a reason they prefer bows I guess.
20100721 08:01:17< shadowmaster> and faerie stuff.
20100721 08:02:10< zookeeper> :( so they can't touch blades and dream?
20100721 08:02:55< shadowmaster> "(Also, shadow-master brought up a canon argument against elves using iron. I like that - but IMO it can be assumed that for their (more or less) royalty, they have access to certain metals that don't harm them, like silver or mithril. These should be assumed to be really hard to get, though.)"
20100721 08:03:09< shadowmaster> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=341018#p341018
20100721 08:03:49< shadowmaster> this raises the question. Does steel exist in Wesnoth? :/
20100721 08:04:05< Valkier> It fuckin better!
20100721 08:04:07< shadowmaster> did they ever discover how to make steel?
20100721 08:04:10< Valkier> What are we, savages?
20100721 08:06:06< zookeeper> grep tells me there's steel
20100721 08:06:18< zookeeper> (lots of steelclads, too...)
20100721 08:06:25< Valkier> Yeah
20100721 08:06:42< shadowmaster> oooh.
20100721 08:06:54< shadowmaster> yeah, who'd have thought? ^_^
20100721 08:07:18< Valkier> Either way that's ridiclous.
20100721 08:07:28< shadowmaster> well, aside from the dwarves anyway, who seem to be always ahead of everyone in terms of technological advances.
20100721 08:07:39< Valkier> I object to everything about the lore. From now on, mini guns exist.
20100721 08:08:05< shadowmaster> I suspect that they also invented the railroad.
20100721 08:08:34< Valkier> So basically, a dwarf could hug an elf to death is what you're telling me.
20100721 08:08:52< shadowmaster> who knows.
20100721 08:09:14< Valkier> Nope. I'm making that sprite now.
20100721 08:09:17< shadowmaster> the thing is, there's this elvish mage guy who was chained and went mad from the pain.
20100721 08:09:25< shadowmaster> (TSG)
20100721 08:10:13< shadowmaster> I need esr anyway for discussing some serious subject
20100721 08:10:31< Valkier> Dwarvish Embrasser- Only effect against Rebels, this soldier is trained by hugging their mothers from birth. Their impenetrable armor makes them ineffective in combat due to its weight and thickness, however they are able to burn an elf with a handshake or, indeed, slay them with a hug.
20100721 08:11:27< Valkier> "Let it be known throughout the elven lands to fear the battle cry of, 'Put there, chum!' less they lose a limb."
20100721 08:11:40< Valkier> Put er' there*
20100721 08:15:51< Valkier> I am kinda pissed though.
20100721 08:16:18< Valkier> I wanted to do TROW but was told I probably shouldn't because JustinOperable had started. LordBob decides to do it however and there's no problems.
20100721 08:19:55< shadowmaster> sigh.
20100721 08:20:31< shadowmaster> how much I'd love to have these musicians on IRC to be able to speak to them without the hassle of PMs or the annoyance of random people putting their noses into the discussion in the forums.
20100721 08:20:46< Valkier> Oh?
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20100721 09:15:52< Valkier> mmm.. Ramen noodles tonight.
20100721 09:15:54< Valkier> Yippie!
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20100721 09:46:39< Blueblaze> shadowmaster: isn't some queen or whatever not blonde?
20100721 09:47:32< shadowmaster> Asheviere?
20100721 09:47:37< Blueblaze> yes
20100721 09:47:52< shadowmaster> yeah, I know there are main characters that aren't blonde. It's just that I noticed that most of them are.
20100721 09:48:06< Blueblaze> she's honestly one of the very few main characters I even know
20100721 09:48:23< Blueblaze> I just remember the artwork of her massive breasts
20100721 09:50:07< shadowmaster> in any case, I'm off to sleep. Good night.
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20100721 10:32:40< thespaceinvader> anyone who knows: is the tool that list UMC units on units.wesnoth.org working?  There's no UMC listing at all for 1.8
20100721 10:40:54< Blueblaze> no
20100721 10:41:01< Blueblaze> oh
20100721 10:41:03< Blueblaze> jk
20100721 10:41:32< thespaceinvader> didn't think so, but wasn't sure.
20100721 10:42:10< thespaceinvader> In fact, I think the listing tool in general may be broken, since Trnk still doesn't have the armageddon drake update i committed a week or t
20100721 10:42:14< thespaceinvader> two ago
20100721 10:42:21< Valkier> Bullpies!
20100721 10:42:38< Valkier> I'll see your exuberance and raise you insubstantiation!
20100721 10:42:52< thespaceinvader> blug
20100721 10:42:59< thespaceinvader> i cannot work right now >.<
20100721 10:43:13< Valkier> I have enough vodka in me that I cannot walk right now.
20100721 10:43:14< Valkier> Teehee!
20100721 10:43:24< thespaceinvader> i forgot to puick up my charger when i left from home where i was helping with hedge trimming
20100721 10:43:29< thespaceinvader> and my battery is dead
20100721 10:43:39< thespaceinvader> i will have to actually do some useful jobs >.<
20100721 10:43:49< Valkier> like?
20100721 10:44:03< thespaceinvader> shopping
20100721 10:44:09< thespaceinvader> register with a GP
20100721 10:44:10< Blueblaze> loooooooooooooooooool
20100721 10:44:16< Blueblaze> GP?
20100721 10:44:25< thespaceinvader> general practitioner
20100721 10:44:29< Valkier> Gigantic penis
20100721 10:44:30< thespaceinvader> doctor
20100721 10:44:30< Valkier> Or that.
20100721 10:44:43< thespaceinvader> register with a dentist
20100721 10:44:50< thespaceinvader> apply for soime jobs
20100721 10:45:03< thespaceinvader> sort out the day out i want to go on next week
20100721 10:47:03< Blueblaze> wtf
20100721 10:47:08< Blueblaze> Valkier: this girl hides her fatness well
20100721 10:47:13< Blueblaze> in this dating website
20100721 10:47:36< Valkier> Not hiding it well enough if you can still tell she's fat.
20100721 10:47:47< Blueblaze> in her profile picture
20100721 10:47:56< Blueblaze> but once you click her profile
20100721 10:47:57< Blueblaze> bam
20100721 10:48:01< Blueblaze> fatness overwhelms 
20100721 10:48:21< Blueblaze> she's trying to hook you in with her "awesome" descriptions and poetry she wrote
20100721 10:48:22< Blueblaze> :z
20100721 10:50:33< Valkier> lol
20100721 10:50:41< Valkier> If I see someone wrote poetry, I stay the hell away.
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20100721 10:57:27< Blueblaze> Valkier: do you ever drink mixed drinks?
20100721 10:57:42< Valkier> Long island ice teas count, right?
20100721 10:57:47< Blueblaze> yes
20100721 10:57:51< Valkier> Then yes.
20100721 10:57:55< Blueblaze> that's it though?
20100721 10:58:07< Valkier> But they are, in fact, nothing bit an amalgimation of whatever liquor you have sitting aorund.
20100721 10:58:37< Blueblaze> lol
20100721 10:58:43< Blueblaze> which have no tea :z
20100721 10:58:48< Valkier> Nope
20100721 10:59:05< Valkier> It's about 7 different kinds of liquor depending on what recipe you follow.
20100721 10:59:13< Blueblaze> yeah
20100721 10:59:15< Valkier> And they will sit your ass down.
20100721 10:59:31< Blueblaze> vodka, tequila, white rum, gin are what Ik new
20100721 10:59:35< Blueblaze> along with coke and lemon
20100721 10:59:52< Valkier> bah. If a bartender put coke in mine I'd throw it at them.
20100721 10:59:55< Blueblaze> according to Wikipedia, it also has triple sec
20100721 10:59:59< Blueblaze> Valkier: wtf really?
20100721 11:00:07< Blueblaze> all the ones I've seen have coke
20100721 11:00:07< Blueblaze> lol
20100721 11:00:10< Valkier> Hell yes. That's just lazy.
20100721 11:00:16< Blueblaze> not much
20100721 11:00:19< Blueblaze> just a very small tad
20100721 11:00:22< Valkier> Nope.
20100721 11:00:26< Blueblaze> not even a splash?
20100721 11:00:30< Valkier> You put triple sec and orange liquour in mine.
20100721 11:00:33< Blueblaze> wtf
20100721 11:00:50< Blueblaze> triple sec is orange liqueur
20100721 11:01:14< Valkier> Nope.
20100721 11:01:17< Blueblaze> yes it is
20100721 11:01:19< Valkier> Nope
20100721 11:01:28< Blueblaze> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_Sec
20100721 11:01:31< Blueblaze> k prove Wikipedia wrong
20100721 11:01:49< Valkier> Oh yes. The website that can be edited by anyone is infalible.
20100721 11:01:54< Blueblaze> -_-
20100721 11:01:59< Blueblaze> your defense for everything lol
20100721 11:02:07< Valkier> Here, lemme change that to say it's made of intestines and alligators.
20100721 11:02:15< Valkier> But it must be true!
20100721 11:02:37< Blueblaze> k
20100721 11:03:01< Blueblaze> since you wanna be a bitch
20100721 11:03:03< Blueblaze> Valkier: http://www.drinksmixer.com/desc81.html
20100721 11:03:04< Blueblaze> there -_-
20100721 11:03:32< Blueblaze> http://www.webtender.com/db/ingred/213
20100721 11:03:41< Blueblaze> etc
20100721 11:03:57< Blueblaze> 100% sure I can find 20 more websites that agree
20100721 11:04:03< Valkier> http://ohgo.sh/archive/bols-orange-liqueurs/
20100721 11:04:17< Valkier> The sad part is you neglect to look and find that there are two different kinds.
20100721 11:04:28< Valkier> Some are not called triple sec, because they aren't.
20100721 11:04:29< Valkier> Dumb ass.
20100721 11:04:35< Blueblaze> triple secs are clear
20100721 11:04:58< Valkier> But some liqouers made of orange aren't triple sec.
20100721 11:05:07< Valkier> nudge nudge wink wink
20100721 11:05:08< Blueblaze> regardless, triple sec is still An orange liqueur
20100721 11:05:13< Valkier> AN
20100721 11:05:17< Blueblaze> I never said it was the only one possible
20100721 11:05:18< Valkier> *AN*
20100721 11:05:22< Valkier> Key word there.
20100721 11:05:24< Valkier> So stfu
20100721 11:05:43< Valkier> <Blueblaze> triple sec is orange liqueur
20100721 11:05:47< Blueblaze> it is
20100721 11:05:50< Valkier> You best be trollin, boy.
20100721 11:05:50< Blueblaze> that is a true statement
20100721 11:05:56< Blueblaze> it isn't the only orange liqueur possible
20100721 11:06:02< Valkier> But I can still very reasonably have one called triple sec, and one called liquer.
20100721 11:06:13< Valkier> So why give me shit in the first place if you knew better?
20100721 11:06:40< Blueblaze> cause I'm educating 
20100721 11:06:56< Valkier> You can't educate someone who all ready knew. :-P
20100721 11:07:06< Valkier> It just makes it sound like you were ignorant./
20100721 11:07:13< Blueblaze> didn't say I was educating you
20100721 11:07:27< Blueblaze> damn someone is gonna be pissed tomorrow
20100721 11:07:33< Blueblaze> I ate all the colby jack cheese
20100721 11:07:43< Blueblaze> 110% of my total fat content
20100721 11:07:51< Blueblaze> 200% of my total saturated fat
20100721 11:08:09< Blueblaze> 80% cholesterol 
20100721 11:08:13< Blueblaze> 60% sodium
20100721 11:08:14< Blueblaze> fffuuuu
20100721 11:08:15< Blueblaze> that's a lot
20100721 11:08:27< Valkier> Fatty
20100721 11:08:33< Valkier> You should hook up with that fat chick now.
20100721 11:08:38< Valkier> The one that writes poetry.
20100721 11:08:38< Blueblaze> trying
20100721 11:10:25< Blueblaze> anyway
20100721 11:10:41< Blueblaze> Valkier: so do you like margaritas? 
20100721 11:10:50< Valkier> I'm indifferent.
20100721 11:10:59< Blueblaze> oh okay
20100721 11:11:04< Valkier> If that's what available and I want a drink, sure.
20100721 11:11:06< Blueblaze> so if at a party they had it
20100721 11:11:06< Blueblaze> yeah
20100721 11:11:14< Blueblaze> k
20100721 11:11:23< Blueblaze> Valkier: is there any alcoholic beverage you wouldn't drink? lol
20100721 11:11:28< Blueblaze> assuming it was free
20100721 11:11:29< Valkier> Yes.
20100721 11:11:32< Blueblaze> which?
20100721 11:11:32< Valkier> Anything with ice cream.
20100721 11:11:35< Valkier> That's insulting.
20100721 11:11:36< Blueblaze> wtf
20100721 11:11:37< Valkier> And most beers.
20100721 11:11:44< Blueblaze> ice cream beer float?
20100721 11:11:45< Blueblaze> lol
20100721 11:11:49< Valkier> :-P
20100721 11:11:51< Valkier> No
20100721 11:12:01< Valkier> And if I do order a beer, you give it to me in a glass.
20100721 11:12:09< Valkier> I've walked out of a bar over that before.
20100721 11:12:33< Blueblaze> wtf
20100721 11:12:34< Blueblaze> really?
20100721 11:12:37< Blueblaze> before or after paying
20100721 11:12:38< Blueblaze> lol
20100721 11:12:50< Valkier> I didn't pay or drink it.
20100721 11:12:54< Blueblaze> ah okay
20100721 11:12:55< Blueblaze> lol
20100721 11:12:56< Blueblaze> nice :z
20100721 11:13:04< Valkier> I ordered a guiness and they gave it to me in a plastic cup.
20100721 11:13:12< Blueblaze> haha
20100721 11:13:13< Blueblaze> that's worse 
20100721 11:13:21< Valkier> I looked at the bartender and said, "You want me to pay $3 for a plastic up of guiness?"
20100721 11:13:34< Valkier> I just walked away.
20100721 11:14:12< Blueblaze> so have you ever had dos equis? 
20100721 11:14:25< Valkier> It's like drinking piss.
20100721 11:14:34 * Blueblaze figured you'd say that lol
20100721 11:14:40< Blueblaze> why is it like piss though?
20100721 11:14:45< Valkier> "I don't always drink beer. Sometimes I drink dos equis"
20100721 11:14:56< Blueblaze> is it closer to water or piss?
20100721 11:15:02< Valkier> Water I suppose.
20100721 11:15:13< Valkier> It tastes like carbonated tap water.
20100721 11:15:49< Blueblaze> eck
20100721 11:18:46< Valkier> Yeah. Not pleasant.
20100721 11:18:55< Valkier> If I want a beer, I'll get 90 minute dogfish head.
20100721 11:19:02< Blueblaze> which is?
20100721 11:19:12< Valkier> A beer?
20100721 11:19:13< Blueblaze> never heard of such
20100721 11:19:14< Valkier> Stout
20100721 11:19:25< Blueblaze> ah
20100721 11:19:31< Blueblaze> brewed in Delaware
20100721 11:19:33< Blueblaze> must be veryl ocal
20100721 11:19:39< Valkier> Could be
20100721 11:19:45< Valkier> Old Rasputin is another good one.
20100721 11:19:54< Valkier> I really want to try Tactical Nuclear Penguine.
20100721 11:19:59< Blueblaze> are these common in bars/stores across where you live
20100721 11:20:01< Blueblaze> or a bit hard to find
20100721 11:20:09< Valkier> Harder to find.
20100721 11:20:18< Valkier> Usuaully have to special order them through a store in Maryland.
20100721 11:20:19< Blueblaze> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_Wars
20100721 11:20:45< Valkier> yeah, Stone does all right.
20100721 11:22:09< Valkier> I mostly just drink gun, vodka, and whiskey.
20100721 11:22:18< Valkier> I do mix the gin with bitter lemon soda however.
20100721 11:22:25< Valkier> Straight gin is not fun.
20100721 11:22:46< Blueblaze> heh
20100721 11:22:53< Blueblaze> do you drink alone most of the time?
20100721 11:22:57< Blueblaze> or with a companion 
20100721 11:23:03< Blueblaze> IRC != companion
20100721 11:23:09< Blueblaze> computer != companion
20100721 11:23:11< Valkier> Typically with my brother and sister in law or with my father.
20100721 11:23:16< Blueblaze> ah
20100721 11:23:31< Valkier> But sometimes when I'm working and need to relax I'll go have a glass or two to take the edge off.
20100721 11:23:50< Blueblaze> and then go back to work?
20100721 11:23:51< Blueblaze> :p
20100721 11:23:54< Valkier> Yup
20100721 11:23:59< Blueblaze> what about class?
20100721 11:24:06< Valkier> I've gone to class drunk.
20100721 11:24:09< Valkier> Makes it much more tolerable.
20100721 11:24:20< Valkier> Best finals week ever.
20100721 11:25:05< thespaceinvader> you know, i thought this was a wesnoth chat room, not alc-anon :P
20100721 11:25:21< Valkier> AA is admitting you have a problem.
20100721 11:25:31< Blueblaze> ^
20100721 11:25:35< Blueblaze> we're just helping him out thespaceinvader 
20100721 11:25:38< Valkier> My tolerance is too high to make it problematic.
20100721 11:26:07< Blueblaze> Valkier: how many standard 5% beers can you drink before it'll make you vomit
20100721 11:26:12< Blueblaze> roughly anyway
20100721 11:26:17< Valkier> No clue.
20100721 11:26:21< Blueblaze> hmm
20100721 11:26:27< Valkier> It would probably take a lot.
20100721 11:35:50< Blueblaze> wtf
20100721 11:35:58< Blueblaze> Valkier: this girl has 3 kids
20100721 11:36:00< Blueblaze> 25 years old
20100721 11:36:02< Blueblaze> never married
20100721 11:36:03< Blueblaze> ez
20100721 11:36:53< Valkier> lol
20100721 11:50:09< Blueblaze> Valkier: my favorite radio station is klol
20100721 11:52:23 * Blueblaze just finished washing his MBP
20100721 12:04:36< timotei> MBP?
20100721 12:04:40< timotei> motherboard plate?
20100721 12:05:24< Blueblaze> close
20100721 12:05:46< Valkier> My Big Penis
20100721 12:05:50< Blueblaze> closer
20100721 12:06:03< Valkier> Might big pie?
20100721 12:06:14< timotei> shikadibot: MBP ?
20100721 12:06:15<+shikadibot> Sorry, I don't know what 'MBP' means...
20100721 12:06:16< Valkier> Mighty*
20100721 12:06:22< Blueblaze> closest
20100721 12:06:26< Blueblaze> but the correct answer is:
20100721 12:06:27< Blueblaze> Macbook Pro
20100721 12:06:47< timotei> :))
20100721 12:07:21< Valkier> Monkey Butt Pump is my final guess.
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20100721 13:03:43< Espreon> Zerovirus, you fool! Project Most Awesome Project Ever is the elementals project.
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20100721 17:14:43< Gambit> Setting up a game to use a joystick on linux (at least my joystick and my linux) seems to be like waking up one morning to find that the thoughts that used to control your elbows now bend your knees. You must blink to breathe, and it's impossible to turn your head sideways.
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20100721 17:21:22< Gambit> I guess it just doesn't have the plug-n-play fetish windows did
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20100721 18:37:02-!- Topic for #wesnoth-umc-dev: This project needs a hug! ♥ ☺ ^_^ | Wesnoth-UMC-Dev Project discussion and support channel | http://wesnoth-umc-dev.ai0867.net | Staff: AI0867, Espreon, shadowmaster | Project @ SF.net: http://tinyurl.com/umcdev | IRC logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org, http://irclogs.ai0867.net
20100721 18:37:02-!- Topic set by NostalgicShadowm [] [Tue Jul 20 08:33:48 2010]
20100721 18:37:02[Users #wesnoth-umc-dev]
20100721 18:37:02[@ChanServ  ] [ AnMaster        ] [ Gambit      ] [ thespaceinvader] 
20100721 18:37:02[+CIA-28    ] [ Blueblaze       ] [ lobby       ] [ timotei        ] 
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20100721 18:37:02[ AI0867    ] [ fendrin         ] [ shadowmaster] 
20100721 18:37:02-!- Irssi: #wesnoth-umc-dev: Total of 22 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 4 voices, 17 normal]
20100721 18:37:02-!- Home page for #wesnoth-umc-dev: http://wesnoth-umc-dev.ai0867.net
20100721 18:37:28-!- Channel #wesnoth-umc-dev created Mon Mar 31 16:51:24 2008
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20100721 18:40:51< Valkier> timotei: So you want 8x8 icons for your game? what?
20100721 18:41:29< timotei> not game
20100721 18:41:34< timotei> the umc plugin :)
20100721 18:41:57< Valkier> ooh, for the market.
20100721 18:41:59< Valkier> I gotcha
20100721 18:42:04< timotei> actually I need: 7x7 16x16 32x32
20100721 18:42:06< Valkier> or whatever we call the add-on thing
20100721 18:42:06< timotei> that market?:P
20100721 18:42:09< timotei> yeah
20100721 18:42:12< timotei> wesnoth umc plugin
20100721 18:42:12< timotei> :)
20100721 18:42:31< Valkier> What's the umc called?
20100721 18:42:38< timotei> user made content :D
20100721 18:42:42< timotei> just like the channe
20100721 18:42:44< timotei> channel
20100721 18:42:48< Valkier> ahh
20100721 18:43:00< Valkier> Some people actually make up a clever name. :-P
20100721 18:44:50< timotei> :))
20100721 18:44:53< timotei> didn't make it
20100721 18:45:08< Valkier> I see
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20100721 19:03:38< Valkier> http://www.hulu.com/watch/165345/syfy-original-movies-sharktopus
20100721 19:03:47< Valkier> You have to watch that because you have to see it.
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20100721 20:16:31< Gambit> Well that was... not... god.
20100721 20:16:36< Gambit> Or good even.
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20100721 22:23:19< Gambit> buahaha
20100721 22:23:25< Gambit> I can remote desktop onto my laptop now
20100721 22:23:31< Gambit> sadly not in reverse but oh well
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20100721 22:56:40< loonycyborg> Why not?
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20100721 23:00:18< Gambit> loonycyborg: It's really laggy
20100721 23:00:27 * loonycyborg remote desktop'd to a virtual machine running on his desktop from his laptop :P
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