--- Log opened Fri Jul 23 00:00:19 2010
20100723 00:09:56<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7462 /trunk/The_Silver_Lands/docs/elementals: TSL: modified some basic info.
20100723 00:10:43< Valkier> Espreon: Fix it!
20100723 00:10:58< Espreon> Fix what?
20100723 00:11:10< Valkier> The recoloring effect!
20100723 00:11:16< Valkier> Do it now!
20100723 00:11:25< Valkier> Before it's too late!
20100723 00:11:36< Espreon> Uh, the terrain graphics system is... yeahz...
20100723 00:11:38< Valkier> Oh god.. They found me.. Why dodn't you fix it? Why di-
20100723 00:11:41< Espreon> Noöne understands it.
20100723 00:11:49< Espreon> .... except for boucman and friends.
20100723 00:12:03< Gambit> from PBS kids
20100723 00:12:08< Espreon> Heh...
20100723 00:12:16< Gambit> (what? It sounded like a TV show)
20100723 00:13:08< Espreon> No, it's fine.
20100723 00:19:31< Gambit> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=444669#p444669
20100723 00:19:32< Gambit> sigh
20100723 00:20:04< Valkier> I think we should change the luck.
20100723 00:20:14< Valkier> Hey guys
20100723 00:20:19< Valkier> Why the luck?
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20100723 00:55:53< Gambit> shadowmaster: I'm going to try to learn a new language that isn't CFML.
20100723 00:55:59< Gambit> It's called... ready?... CFS. :D
20100723 01:03:06< Valkier> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=30664&start=15
20100723 01:03:12< Valkier> Classing example of a useless post.
20100723 01:03:25< Valkier> See: Telaron's at the bottom.
20100723 01:06:14< Gambit> err
20100723 01:06:17< Gambit> It's not finished yet?
20100723 01:06:40< Gambit> Also strange art style is strange
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20100723 01:33:45< Valkier> Gambit: EVILEST goes darker than I do. But lots of people seem to love his work, so whatever.
20100723 01:34:14< Valkier> But yeah, pointing out that an unfinished project is unfinished is.. well.. Maybe he should be sterilized.
20100723 01:58:57<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7463 /branches/1.8/Ageless_Era/ (43 files in 4 dirs): AE: ran umcpropfix.
20100723 02:01:05<+CIA-28> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7464 /trunk/Quenoth-Sandbox/ (7 files in 7 dirs): Q-S: removed the elementals stuff, for elementals are now under the domain of Project Most Awesome Project Ever.
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20100723 03:25:47< Gambit> Also where is Aethaeryn when you need him,?
20100723 03:25:55< Gambit> wesbot: Seen Aethaeryn?
20100723 03:25:55<+wesbot> Gambit: Whatever you say...
20100723 03:25:55<+wesbot> Gambit: The person with the nick Aethaeryn last spoke 18h 14m ago.  18h 13m ago was here and on the channels #wesnoth and #wesnoth-dev with the message: Quit: http://xkcd.com/704/
20100723 03:26:11< Gambit> My college, for some strange reason, added a "Forestry" section this year.
20100723 03:26:18< Gambit> They have more forestry classes than english classes.
20100723 03:26:22< Gambit> I was like "wtf?!?"
20100723 03:26:43< Gambit> They have more forestry classes than anything else except for math.
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20100723 03:43:05< Aethaeryn> nice topic :-)
20100723 03:43:09< Aethaeryn> hrmmm
20100723 03:43:32< Aethaeryn> just about every argument I could make on either side of any given popular issue has already been argued better than I could put it.
20100723 03:44:25< Gambit> Aethaeryn: 
20100723 03:44:25< Aethaeryn> In other words, no matter how well-thought out my point of view is, and no matter which side of an issue it is on, someone else can simply say "Read so-and-so, they have a reply to that."
20100723 03:44:30< Aethaeryn> So...
20100723 03:44:38< Gambit> [21:26:14] <Gambit> My college, for some strange reason, added a "Forestry" section this year.
20100723 03:44:40< Aethaeryn> I need to get some really obscure, technical computational knowledge.
20100723 03:44:40< Gambit> [21:26:21] <Gambit> They have more forestry classes than english classes.
20100723 03:44:41< Gambit> [21:26:25] <Gambit> I was like "wtf?!?"
20100723 03:44:43< Gambit> [21:26:46] <Gambit> They have more forestry classes than anything else except for math.
20100723 03:45:06< Aethaeryn> Then I can rant here and in #Wesnoth-music about something so obscure no one has a counterpoint.
20100723 03:45:40< Aethaeryn> The point is to form creative arguments rather than defeating someone or being defeated by someone just because one side has read more than the other.
20100723 03:46:21< Aethaeryn> The more technically specific my argument, the less likely someone will be able to do anything to stop me in my tracks.
20100723 03:47:37< Aethaeryn> math.pi in python should go beyond 16 decimal places.
20100723 03:47:43< Aethaeryn> 3.1415926535897931 is not enough.
20100723 03:47:52< Aethaeryn> Gambit: Well...
20100723 03:48:01< Aethaeryn> Gambit: you go to an odd school then.
20100723 03:48:21< Aethaeryn> Since math actually is a rather narrow field compared to the options in some disciplines.
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20100723 03:48:44< Aethaeryn> Honestly, a BS in math is probably really, really easy to get in terms of credits among the STEM subjects.
20100723 03:48:53< Aethaeryn> Or, at least a BA in math, which is still a math major.
20100723 03:48:59< Aethaeryn> At my school the BS has a handful more requirements.
20100723 03:49:09< Aethaeryn> Psychology is the same way, with a BA and a BS.
20100723 03:50:40< Aethaeryn> Gambit: Oh wait, I think your point was that there's too many forestry classes relative to the other classes, not that there's too many math classes relative to the other classes. 
20100723 03:51:35< Aethaeryn> But, still, I find it doubtful that there are more academia-worthy subjects in mathematics than comp sci or physics... or even ones that are guarunteed to have a ton of classes like biology and psychology.
20100723 03:51:48< Aethaeryn> Gambit: Is forestry your major?
20100723 03:52:05< Aethaeryn> Not very much job security, with all this deforestation going on and all.
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20100723 03:52:48< Gambit> Aethaeryn: Nope
20100723 03:53:13< Gambit> Aethaeryn: My point was that there are any forestry classes (plural) at all
20100723 03:53:20< Gambit> It's just plain weird
20100723 03:53:32< Gambit> It's one thing to add one really strange class
20100723 03:53:45< Gambit> But to add two pages to the course list of them?
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20100723 03:54:34< Aethaeryn> Are you near a forest?
20100723 03:54:47< Gambit> Lots of em
20100723 03:54:54< Gambit> But I don't see anyone cutting them down.
20100723 03:54:59< Aethaeryn> Forestry is actually a creative minor and/or second-major for bio majors.
20100723 03:55:07< Aethaeryn> To make their resume unique.
20100723 03:55:23< Aethaeryn> i.e. I didn't know there was enough about forestry to warrant its own subject.
20100723 03:55:52< Gambit> Indeed
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20100723 04:31:23< elvish_sovereign> Espreon: you can help me a sec?
20100723 04:53:39< Aethaeryn> Good news: I'm not going deaf.
20100723 04:53:53< Aethaeryn> The battery in my headphones was just dying, and died completely today.
20100723 04:54:15< Aethaeryn> New battery and the sound level is almost doubled. (I have been having to turn up the volume lately on the device, which is a bad thing to do.)
20100723 04:56:36< Valkier> OMG
20100723 04:56:38< Valkier> I live you!
20100723 04:56:42< Valkier> love*
20100723 04:57:24< Aethaeryn> cool.
20100723 04:57:51< Aethaeryn> Protip on Amazon btw... Order on a Thursday with two-day shipping. You will probably get it in one day.
20100723 04:57:54< Aethaeryn> And thus save money.
20100723 04:58:25 * Aethaeryn has just ordered http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0596001088/ref=oss_product
20100723 04:59:53< Valkier> esr will be happy.
20100723 05:02:40< Aethaeryn> Yeah.
20100723 05:02:47< Aethaeryn> I've already read through it online.
20100723 05:03:04< Aethaeryn> But I want to have a physical copy...
20100723 05:03:13< Aethaeryn> Dead-trees have their uses.
20100723 05:03:23 * esr smiles benignly
20100723 05:05:45< Valkier> Too bad open source is deeeeeeead
20100723 05:05:47< Valkier> Oh wait.
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20100723 05:06:36< Aethaeryn> http://www.amazon.com/review/R1AV6N6DUAOE0W/ref=cm_cr_pr_cmt?ie=UTF8&ASIN=1565927249&nodeID=
20100723 05:06:48< Aethaeryn> I find this comment funny almost a decade later
20100723 05:07:00< Aethaeryn> "two years ago Raymond was predicting the success of the open-source Mozilla browser initiative, which is at this point a complete fiasco"
20100723 05:08:04< Aethaeryn> not to mention a false dichotomy provided in the comment: "What people should be getting out of this book (or a book like this) is a balanced, informed view of open source vs commercial software"
20100723 05:08:47< Aethaeryn> Pure ignorance.
20100723 05:10:28< Aethaeryn> It even suggests the book needs "some case studies"
20100723 05:10:38< Aethaeryn> Case of "did not even read the book"?
20100723 05:10:55< Aethaeryn> Damn, this world has stupid people in it.
20100723 05:11:10< Valkier> No 
20100723 05:11:12< Valkier> u
20100723 05:11:26< Aethaeryn> Anyway, I should really get back to my homework reading for my "evolution vs. ID" seminar class I'm taking over the summer.
20100723 05:12:01< Valkier> Anyway, you should really get back to your herp reading for your derp seminar class you're taking over the summer.
20100723 05:12:09< Aethaeryn> k
20100723 05:12:30< Aethaeryn> I'm taking two philosophies... "evolution vs. ID" and "introduction to scientific reasoning"
20100723 05:12:34< Aethaeryn> they're actually rather complementary.
20100723 05:13:24< Aethaeryn> It's exciting to see something read/lectured in one class interact with another one taken concurrently. Normally material only interacts over semesters (i.e. prereqs)
20100723 05:13:46< Aethaeryn> Although the classes aren't technically intended to be taken together, just an interesting coincidence.
20100723 05:14:07< Aethaeryn> Does help my whole focus on making my philosophy major rather heavy on reasoning.
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20100723 05:25:14< Blueblaze> Valkier: wtf
20100723 05:25:19< Blueblaze> what chick made pete cry
20100723 05:25:22< Blueblaze> what did you do!
20100723 05:25:31< Valkier> I showed him your sister.
20100723 05:25:39< Blueblaze> and her hairy legs?
20100723 05:25:44< Valkier> Yup
20100723 05:25:45< Blueblaze> and her penis?
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20100723 05:29:19< Blueblaze> Valkier: pete refuses to say anything
20100723 05:29:20< Blueblaze> :z
20100723 05:30:56< Valkier> :-P
20100723 05:31:18< Valkier> Some girl I guess he used to date or somesuch pretended/actually didn't know him when he saw her today.
20100723 05:31:27< Valkier> Damned if I know the details, or care.
20100723 05:32:33< Blueblaze> lol
20100723 05:32:40< shadowmaster> kids.
20100723 05:33:03< Blueblaze> who are older than you
20100723 05:33:04< Blueblaze> point?
20100723 05:33:13< shadowmaster> Blueblaze: wut?
20100723 05:33:27< Blueblaze> attach what you said to what I said
20100723 05:33:31< Valkier> Hmm? How old is shadowmaster?
20100723 05:33:34< Blueblaze> it makes a complete phrase
20100723 05:33:43< shadowmaster> I'm referring to PetePorty.
20100723 05:33:48< Blueblaze> oh
20100723 05:33:54< Blueblaze> Pete is really 33 years old
20100723 05:33:59< shadowmaster> nah, 15.
20100723 05:34:03< Blueblaze> ino :\
20100723 05:34:03< Valkier> :-P
20100723 05:34:20< Blueblaze> It makes it more funny if he was 33 though
20100723 05:34:47< Blueblaze> funnier is the correct usage btw
20100723 05:34:48< Blueblaze> -_-
20100723 05:34:52< Blueblaze> but more funny is cooler
20100723 05:35:07< shadowmaster> People, we have...a TROPE!
20100723 05:35:09< shadowmaster> http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PsychopathicManChild
20100723 05:35:30< Blueblaze> wtf no pics?
20100723 05:35:48< shadowmaster> pics are for pussies.
20100723 05:35:56< Blueblaze> wtf no pics?
20100723 05:36:06< Aethaeryn> Blueblaze: More funny is more cool.
20100723 05:36:18< Blueblaze> Aethaeryn: I agree
20100723 05:36:25< Aethaeryn> Also, a girl made Pete cry?
20100723 05:36:37< Blueblaze> yes
20100723 05:36:37< Aethaeryn> Valkier: Why'd you have to sleep with his girlfriend?
20100723 05:36:39< Blueblaze> let's all make fun of him
20100723 05:36:45< Blueblaze> Aethaeryn: he was drunk
20100723 05:36:50< Blueblaze> he would never do it intentionally
20100723 05:36:52< Blueblaze> he's not a whore
20100723 05:36:53< Blueblaze> oh wait
20100723 05:36:53< Blueblaze> nvm
20100723 05:38:13< shadowmaster> "You're tearing me apart, Lisa!"
20100723 05:38:46< Aethaeryn> Valkier: btw, I'm referencing:
20100723 05:38:46< Aethaeryn> 23:25:02 < PetePorty> meh, some chick...
20100723 05:38:46< Aethaeryn> 23:25:07 < PetePorty> ask Valkier.
20100723 05:38:47< Aethaeryn> 23:25:12 < PetePorty> It's all his fault.
20100723 05:39:00< Blueblaze> samew
20100723 05:39:00< Aethaeryn> forgot you no longer lurk in #wesnoth-music
20100723 05:39:09< Valkier> :-P
20100723 05:39:13< Aethaeryn> A joke might be lost if you don't read half of it.
20100723 05:39:27< Valkier> yeah. Tiny bit.
20100723 05:39:36< Valkier> I'm busy drawing immortals and elves.
20100723 05:40:54< shadowmaster> it's always nice to know that you can draw females that aren't of the stereotypical fantasy game kind.
20100723 05:41:28< Valkier> Isn't it? :-P
20100723 05:41:41< Valkier> Sisal doesn't look stereotypical I don't believe.
20100723 05:41:59 * shadowmaster wasn't being sarcastic
20100723 05:42:12< Valkier> Ahh
20100723 05:42:26< Valkier> Cause Eryssa and Elenia certainly are stereotypical. :-P
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20100723 05:42:55< shadowmaster> well, I still haven't seen the finished Elenia, so it's hard to tell :(
20100723 05:43:17< Valkier> Her finished won't look terribly different from what was posted a few days back.
20100723 05:43:36< Valkier> There's too many small things on her to really get into much detail anywhere. She'd look too busy.
20100723 05:44:00< Valkier> The only thing I can really do is make the wolf parts look furrier.
20100723 05:44:20< Valkier> Oh, and give her real hands.
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20100723 06:02:58< Aethaeryn> þus Espreon wins
20100723 06:04:07< Aethaeryn> It's in Latin-1 supplement with such important characters as £, ©, ®, ±, ², and ¾
20100723 06:04:15< Aethaeryn> πr²
20100723 06:04:17< Aethaeryn> omfg
20100723 06:05:02< Aethaeryn> uh oh
20100723 06:05:08< Aethaeryn> 4πr²
20100723 06:05:11< Aethaeryn> Different formula
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20100723 06:07:09< Aethaeryn> (4/3)πr³
20100723 06:07:13< Aethaeryn> :o
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20100723 06:16:34< Aethaeryn> http://www.acpo.csiro.au/avogadro.htm
20100723 06:16:40< Aethaeryn> This is why I want to be rich. So I can buy one of those.
20100723 06:17:55< Valkier> A silicone ball?
20100723 06:19:10< Aethaeryn> One of the most perfect spheres in the world.
20100723 06:19:11< Aethaeryn> THE WORLD.
20100723 06:19:16< Aethaeryn> The Universe even!
20100723 06:19:20< Valkier> yawn
20100723 06:19:30< Aethaeryn> Valkier: It's art.
20100723 06:19:35< Aethaeryn> At the molecular level
20100723 06:19:49< Valkier> Nah. It's boring. At every level.
20100723 06:20:38< Aethaeryn> Valkier: How many people have a perfect sphere?
20100723 06:20:58< Aethaeryn> I'm sure someone rich enough could even get a 10 kg sphere.
20100723 06:20:58< Valkier> If statistics are to be believed, much of West Virginia.
20100723 06:25:10< shadowmaster> I wonder what's the coefficient of friction of those spheres.
20100723 06:25:41< Aethaeryn> Valkier: http://www.acpo.csiro.au/images/archin.jpg <- believed to be the roundest object in the world.
20100723 06:25:46< Aethaeryn> And you can't argue with that picture
20100723 06:26:05< Aethaeryn> shadowmaster: Good question.
20100723 06:26:10< Valkier> I'm telling you, West Virginia.
20100723 06:28:11< Aethaeryn> k
20100723 06:28:58< Aethaeryn> shadowmaster: Any random guesses as to how much those spheres cost?
20100723 06:29:23< Aethaeryn> (To make, obviously. They're not going to be on Amazon.com, yet.)
20100723 06:47:10< shadowmaster> Aethaeryn: millions of dollars?
20100723 06:55:30< Aethaeryn> Valkier: So those are some valuable spheres right there. More valuable than most sculptures.
20100723 06:58:54< Valkier> Nope.
20100723 06:58:57< Valkier> It's worth nothing.
20100723 06:59:28< Aethaeryn> Why?
20100723 06:59:40< Aethaeryn> Economically speaking, something is only worth what someone else is willing to pay for it.
20100723 06:59:47< Aethaeryn> Clearly, these scientists have their funding.
20100723 07:00:26< Valkier> Well I would pay nothing for it, because it's useless to me.
20100723 07:00:54< Valkier> Unless you get some joy out of rolling balls. That kind of ended for me when I wasn't 5 anymore.
20100723 07:02:11< Aethaeryn> omfg
20100723 07:02:25< Aethaeryn> but it's such a perfect sphere
20100723 07:03:20< Aethaeryn> shadowmaster: Imagine the joy physicists would get rolling those kinds of spheres down an inclined plane (with a 45 degree angle of course) on a frictionless surface?
20100723 07:03:38< Aethaeryn> Valkier: Much joy.
20100723 07:04:03< Aethaeryn> They'll use a force of exactly one Newton, of course.
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20100723 08:11:25< Valkier> http://forums.wesnoth.org/download/file.php?id=43487&mode=view
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20100723 13:22:13< Gambit> Valkier: Huge ears are huge
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20100723 13:26:21< Valkier> I blame the elves.
20100723 13:26:30< Valkier> Worst race ever conceived.
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20100723 13:45:59< Gambit> Valkier: Yeah but the other elves's ears aren't longer than their middle finger to palm
20100723 13:55:16< Gambit> I'd like to subscribe to art contributions to know when your artsy people do your magic, but the peanut gallery would just spam the crud out of me and highlight me all day long.
20100723 13:55:50< Gambit> *you artsy people
20100723 13:55:56< Gambit> And the people part is questionable of course.
20100723 14:21:31< Valkier> bah
20100723 14:21:37< Valkier> Nobody likes anything I do.
20100723 14:21:43< Valkier> I wouldn't worry about it.
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20100723 18:23:29< elvish_sovereign> is Esperon out?
20100723 18:26:01< elvish_sovereign> rather
20100723 18:26:17< elvish_sovereign> s/Esperon/Espreon/
20100723 18:40:45< elvish_sovereign> shadowmaster: you around?
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20100723 19:34:11< Gambit> elvish_sovereign: /whois shadowmaster
20100723 19:34:16< Gambit> or espreon.
20100723 19:34:27< Gambit> You'll see that they're away.
20100723 19:34:36< Gambit> Also your client should tell you this
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20100723 22:34:59< Aethaeryn> Espreon: For some reason, your 8000 updates to Ageless Era didn't really work out so well on my desktop which I haven't updated in almost aw eek.
20100723 22:35:07< Aethaeryn> I had to delete the whole folder and download it again.
20100723 22:41:43< Espreon> Aethaeryn: Not my fault that AE is friggin' huge.
20100723 22:42:04< Aethaeryn> Also friggin' redundent if you have more than one of its component eras
20100723 22:42:20< Aethaeryn> Yes, there's advantages to using an era designed to be played within itself rather than just throwing everything together in one big thing.
20100723 22:42:36< Espreon> Uh... why are you telling this to me?
20100723 22:43:01< shadowmaster> Espreon: AE is mnewton1's creation.
20100723 22:43:03< shadowmaster> we aren't responsible for its design.
20100723 22:43:07< shadowmaster> I mean Aethaeryn 
20100723 22:43:36< shadowmaster> so stop being wordy about it.
20100723 22:43:36< shadowmaster> we aren't responsible for its design.
20100723 22:43:39< shadowmaster> period.
20100723 22:46:18< elvish_sovereign> Espreon: Could you help me a bit?
20100723 22:46:38< elvish_sovereign> King_Elendil was trying to walk me through installing the svn client through fink
20100723 22:46:46< elvish_sovereign> but we ran onto some errors
20100723 22:46:51< elvish_sovereign> s/onto/into/
20100723 22:47:03< elvish_sovereign> He asked me to ask you about it.
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20100723 22:50:42< Espreon> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=444771#p444771 — WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
20100723 22:52:55< shadowmaster> esp	replied
20100723 22:53:35< Espreon> Also, the stuff is going into mainline core, so... yeahz...
20100723 22:53:48< Espreon> ... and if he doesn't like it, he can come to PA and duel with esr.
20100723 22:56:30< Espreon> shadowmaster: Maybe you should have mentioned that esr is the god of Wesnoth's canon...
20100723 22:56:52< shadowmaster> I assume that as common knowledge.
20100723 22:57:27< shadowmaster> especially since he's the one who's got stickies/announcements in the Wank- er, Writers' Forum and bear the title of the Lord of Prose.
20100723 22:57:34< Aethaeryn> cool, my book came in the mail
20100723 22:57:50< shadowmaster> *bears
20100723 22:58:28< Espreon> Aethaeryn: Would you please look at my WIP map?
20100723 22:58:52 * esr intones "I am a benevolent god."
20100723 22:59:23< Espreon> esr is a really cool guy, eh's teh god of Wesnoth's canon, wields swords, and doesn't afraid of anything.
20100723 23:01:23< Aethaeryn> ah, that's why the book could be that long... has other essays in it.
20100723 23:01:45 * esr fears Espreon
20100723 23:01:53< Aethaeryn> I'll put it next to "Learning Python" and my other O'Reilly books.
20100723 23:02:00< Aethaeryn> O'Reilly must be one really rich man.
20100723 23:02:03< Espreon> esr: What did I do? I was just invoking a meme.
20100723 23:02:23 * esr fears memes
20100723 23:02:39< Espreon> Well, you tried to use a meme once...
20100723 23:02:54< Aethaeryn> Espreon: I have to drive my sister somewhere at 8 and do a (rather brief) essay draft sometime before then.
20100723 23:03:06< Espreon> Sigh... OK...
20100723 23:03:09< Aethaeryn> Espreon: Should've told my sister not to hurt her left hand in a car accident.
20100723 23:03:12< Aethaeryn> Espreon: All your fault.
20100723 23:03:47< Espreon> Yeah, yeah...
20100723 23:13:40< Aethaeryn> esr: Does that Donald Knuth guy have any books worth reading?
20100723 23:13:52< esr> !!!
20100723 23:13:58< shadowmaster> hahaha
20100723 23:14:04< shadowmaster> Aethaeryn: look him up in wikipedia
20100723 23:14:16< Aethaeryn> Sorry, couldn't resist.
20100723 23:14:25< Aethaeryn> Apparently, it's one of the recommended top science readings of the 20th century.
20100723 23:14:41< Aethaeryn> http://www.americanscientist.org/bookshelf/pub/100-or-so-books-that-shaped-a-century-of-science
20100723 23:14:52< Aethaeryn> the only thing that has "computer" in its name
20100723 23:15:11< Aethaeryn> It might be foundational or something.
20100723 23:15:27< Aethaeryn> shadowmaster: I did look him up on Wikipedia
20100723 23:15:34< shadowmaster> argh
20100723 23:15:34< Aethaeryn> But I honestly did not know of him without looking him up
20100723 23:15:49< shadowmaster> same here.
20100723 23:16:26< Aethaeryn> esr: Is the Art of Computer Programming what you know him from?
20100723 23:16:47< esr> That, and using TeX, and other things.
20100723 23:18:42< Aethaeryn> version 3.1415926
20100723 23:18:48< Aethaeryn> XD
20100723 23:19:05< shadowmaster> right, that's supposed to be funnyy.
20100723 23:19:40< Aethaeryn> makes more sense than 1.8.3
20100723 23:19:41< loonycyborg> 'the Art of Computer Programming' is 'War and Peace' of technical literature :P
20100723 23:19:52< loonycyborg> I've read neither..
20100723 23:20:00< Aethaeryn> loonycyborg: Something everyone references but no one reads?
20100723 23:20:28< loonycyborg> No idea whether others read it.
20100723 23:20:50< Aethaeryn> http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&story=Close_Encounters_of_the_Steve_Kind.txt
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