--- Log opened Mon Jul 26 00:00:00 2010
--- Day changed Mon Jul 26 2010
20100726 00:00:00< Valkier> Bah! Where's esr?
20100726 00:22:29< Espreon> Valkier: Tch, only God knows...
20100726 00:22:51< Valkier> No I don't. :-P
20100726 00:23:00< Espreon> ...
20100726 00:23:02< Espreon> Get out.
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20100726 00:32:02< Valkier> no u
20100726 00:33:40< shadowmaster> Riveting tale, chap.
20100726 00:36:28 * Valkier dreams in digital because it's better than nothing
20100726 00:42:01< Espreon> What should I do now?
20100726 00:42:06< Espreon> Hmmmm...
20100726 00:42:18< Espreon> I guess that I shall read moar "Berserk"...
20100726 00:42:43< Valkier> rite nao?
20100726 00:42:49< Espreon> Yeahz...
20100726 00:42:58< Valkier> laem
20100726 00:43:21< Espreon> Yeah, yeah...
20100726 00:43:25< shadowmaster> Espreon: you know, judging from the TV Tropes entry, well...you have some really odd tastes.
20100726 00:43:55< shadowmaster> :/
20100726 00:44:42< Valkier> Espreon: He just doesn't understand.
20100726 00:44:48< Espreon> Indeed.
20100726 00:44:59< Valkier> Berserk is beyond his feeble literary grasp./
20100726 00:45:39< Espreon> Heh...
20100726 00:45:46< shadowmaster> sorry, but I don't like trolls, so you two get out of here.
20100726 00:45:48< shadowmaster> now.
20100726 00:46:31< Valkier> How are we trolls simply because you are blind to that which is amazing?
20100726 00:46:46< Espreon> Oh you're just envious of the fact that I have the mouthroof for such awesome material.
20100726 00:46:52< Valkier> If anything, you're trolling us fine gentlemen.
20100726 00:47:07< Espreon> Ay, ay, ay...
20100726 00:47:23< shadowmaster> okay.
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20100726 00:47:36< shadowmaster> no, not really
20100726 00:47:50< Valkier> You had me completely fooled.
20100726 00:48:14< Espreon> shadowmaster: Regardless, how are my tastes odd?
20100726 00:48:25< shadowmaster> never mind
20100726 00:48:36< Espreon> No, seriously?
20100726 00:48:59< Valkier> Inquiring Espreon's wish to know!
20100726 00:49:18< shadowmaster> NEVER MIND.
20100726 00:49:31< shadowmaster> you are like PeterPorty, people.
20100726 00:49:39< shadowmaster> you can't accept a "no" as response.
20100726 00:49:44< shadowmaster> this is why we can't have nice things.
20100726 00:49:46< shadowmaster> er.
20100726 00:49:51 * shadowmaster scratches head.
20100726 00:49:53< loonycyborg> What is really amazing is this: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Homestuck
20100726 00:49:58< shadowmaster> maybe I've been reading too much ED.
20100726 00:50:28< Espreon> No, you haven't been reading it enough.
20100726 00:51:01< shadowmaster> Riveting tale, chap.
20100726 00:51:45 * shadowmaster has a horrendous idea.
20100726 00:51:47< loonycyborg> I don't believe that anyone can actually read much ED without committing suicide..
20100726 00:51:56< Gambit> shadowmaster: AFAYK is one not able to explode() a string on " "?
20100726 00:52:02< shadowmaster> this channel is becoming...
20100726 00:52:05< shadowmaster> http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CrapsackWorld
20100726 00:52:09< Espreon> loonycyborg: No, it actually prevents suicide.
20100726 00:52:15< shadowmaster> :/
20100726 00:52:28< Gambit> shadowmaster: I know how to spice up the channel!
20100726 00:52:42< Gambit> I will bother you for copious amounts of PHP things for the next few hours :awesome:
20100726 00:52:54< shadowmaster> Gambit: not good, I'll just redirect you to #php.
20100726 00:53:06< Gambit> darn
20100726 00:53:12< shadowmaster> anyway, you should be able to explode() with " " as delimiter
20100726 00:53:16< shadowmaster> I can't see why you shouldn't be able to do that.
20100726 00:53:54< Gambit> I'm exploding a string thrice (which takes much more typing than CFML I might add) and the first two work fine
20100726 00:53:58< Gambit> the last one, a space, does not
20100726 00:54:01< shadowmaster> just remember thata the order of the parameters is  ($delimiter, $string, [$optionallimit])
20100726 00:54:11< Gambit> I guess I should try making one of the earlier ones a space just for lulz
20100726 00:55:54< shadowmaster> Espreon: look, we've all become apathetic ugly people since the point I stopped banning ED links, gratutious usage of "LOL" and I started swallowing your memes and allowing them to mutate my persona into a doppelganger of sorts-
20100726 00:56:08< shadowmaster> *gratuitous.
20100726 00:56:18< shadowmaster> that needs to be fixed™.
20100726 00:56:33< shadowmaster> it might help if I redirect PeterPorty to an auto-K:line channel, too
20100726 00:56:44< Gambit> Do exclamation points need to be escaped?
20100726 00:56:59 * shadowmaster ...must...resist..temptation to send people to auto-K:line channels...
20100726 00:57:04< shadowmaster> Gambit: no
20100726 00:57:09< Gambit> so that's not it :\
20100726 00:57:15< loonycyborg> auto-K:line channel? That sounds like a nifty irc WMD
20100726 00:57:16< shadowmaster> if you mean !, then no.
20100726 00:57:20< Espreon> shadowmaster: Oh, that'd be mean.
20100726 00:57:42< Gambit> shadowmaster: make a channel that is like one letter off
20100726 00:57:46< Gambit> a really obscure hard to notice typo
20100726 00:57:52< shadowmaster> there use to be auto-D:line channels too, except that auto-K:lines are supported by services and channel mode +D doesn't exist anymore
20100726 00:57:54< Gambit> and he'll think the channel is empty
20100726 00:57:56< Espreon> Also, about hwæt are you talking? We've all ascended since that point.
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20100726 00:58:11< shadowmaster> Espreon: er no. Seriously.
20100726 00:58:12< Gambit> He'll think it's the same channel.
20100726 00:58:15< Gambit> But with nobody in it.
20100726 00:58:32< shadowmaster> this is starting to become unmanageable and I'm not amused.
20100726 00:58:34< shadowmaster> THERE IS A REASON I HAVE CHANGED THE TOPIC
20100726 00:58:41< shadowmaster> " This project needs a hug! ♥ ☺ ^_^ "
20100726 00:59:09< Gambit> DOH php arrays start at 0
20100726 00:59:12< Gambit> Duuuuuh
20100726 00:59:12< e_s-iOS> ***HUG***
20100726 00:59:26< Valkier> mmm. Hotdogs.
20100726 00:59:29< Gambit> shadowmaster: Thanks for the help! I totally didn't need it and should not have bothered you.
20100726 00:59:42< shadowmaster> obviously. PHP inherits from languages such as C, C++, Java, and Perl.
20100726 00:59:48< Gambit> Indeed.
20100726 01:00:12< shadowmaster> and I can't handle languages were arrays start at 1, such as Maple :/
20100726 01:00:20< Gambit> vs CFML which tries to make everything as easy and straight forward as possible and so starts at 1
20100726 01:00:26< Espreon> Valkier: Why doesn't shadowmaster just "give in" to the transformation of awesomeness?
20100726 01:00:29< Gambit> And it's arraylen() actually returns the real length
20100726 01:00:30< Gambit> et cetera
20100726 01:00:37< Gambit> Anywho...
20100726 01:00:44< e_s-iOS> Hi.
20100726 01:01:06< shadowmaster> Gambit: straight-forwards for ADD-affected retards?
20100726 01:01:22< shadowmaster> or those who can't do maths.
20100726 01:02:16< Valkier> Espreon: He is afraid. More than that he is ashamed of his fear of the awesometastic that is Berserk.
20100726 01:03:56< Espreon> Indeed.
20100726 01:05:23< Gambit> shadowmaster: compare: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/r3fjSr1w
20100726 01:06:01< Gambit> They do the exact same thing. No more no less.
20100726 01:06:14< Gambit> Granted I know there are probably ways of condesing the PHP that I've not learned yet.
20100726 01:07:18< shadowmaster> Gambit: firstly, you don't need stristr() there, and you could do with strstr() since you aren't comparing against an alphanumeric string.
20100726 01:07:35< shadowmaster> secondly, learn to use spaces between tokens for better readability.
20100726 01:07:36< Gambit> ah true
20100726 01:07:46< Gambit> Wha?
20100726 01:07:58< shadowmaster> $foo=bar
20100726 01:08:06< shadowmaster> it's better written as $foo = bar
20100726 01:08:09< Gambit> oh
20100726 01:08:11< shadowmaster> otherwise it looks like shit
20100726 01:08:37< shadowmaster> thirdly, you shouldn't keep the if statement's body in the same line in any C-derived language because, again, hurts readability.
20100726 01:09:21< shadowmaster> also, you are overwriting $incoming all the time wtf?
20100726 01:09:36< Gambit> shadowmaster: Because AFAIK there's no way in PHP to split a string AND access the resulting array
20100726 01:09:48< shadowmaster> yes, there is.
20100726 01:10:27< Gambit> What is it?
20100726 01:11:08< shadowmaster> hm.
20100726 01:11:21< shadowmaster> actually, there isn't, which is a shame considering it's possible to do it in Perl and C and C++.
20100726 01:11:28< Gambit> In CFML split() is a method so it's really easy
20100726 01:11:32< Gambit> but explode() is a function
20100726 01:11:52< Gambit> so you can't have variable.explode()[i].explode()[i].explode()[i]
20100726 01:12:07< shadowmaster> anyway, compared to the CFML, your code is slightly more readable.
20100726 01:12:27< shadowmaster> it'd be even more readable if you didn't do stuff like a monkey on a typewriter.
20100726 01:12:33< shadowmaster> and readability trumps flexibility.
20100726 01:12:51< shadowmaster> don't make the same mistake as Wesnoth.
20100726 01:13:03< shadowmaster> which is why contributors tend to get scared by Wesnoth's source code
20100726 01:15:24< Gambit> shadowmaster: So there's not a more elegant way to chop up the messages than what I have there?
20100726 01:16:19< shadowmaster> maybe
20100726 01:16:28< shadowmaster> I'm not that experienced with PHP.
20100726 01:16:43< shadowmaster> if I'm going to process lots of text, I prefer Perl.
20100726 01:16:56< shadowmaster> that's why most of wesnoth-umc-dev's tools are written in Perl-
20100726 01:17:04< Gambit> Ah. okay.
20100726 01:17:09< Gambit> I guess I just assumed from the forums.
20100726 01:17:55< shadowmaster> I learned PHP for the forums, mostly, yes. But Poison Ivy is my only complete PHP creation.
20100726 01:18:18< shadowmaster> PHP has turned out to be mostly useless for administrating the forums, except for a few hacks I've written myself, and a mod that I haven't finished designing
20100726 01:20:54< Gambit> And the worst part of that "you are overwriting $incoming all the time wtf?" is that for some of the variables I will have to start again at the begining.
20100726 01:21:59< shadowmaster> I won't look at your ugly code, but I'm pretty sure there's a way to do at least half of that with regexps ;)
20100726 01:22:09< shadowmaster> *again,
20100726 01:22:22< Gambit> Ahhhh
20100726 01:22:46< Gambit> Yeah... talk about ugly and then mention regular expressions.
20100726 01:23:00< Gambit> That would shorten it considerably though...
20100726 01:23:30< shadowmaster> regular expressions are beutiful, especially if (in Perl only) you use the x flag to add inline comments
20100726 01:23:35< shadowmaster> *beautiful
20100726 01:23:58< shadowmaster> just keep in mind that they've been used for longer than C's existence
20100726 01:24:09< Gambit> They've not aged well.
20100726 01:24:23< Gambit> :whistle:
20100726 01:24:47< Gambit> Okay. Bye again.
20100726 01:24:50< shadowmaster> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regular_expression#History
20100726 01:25:05< shadowmaster> they have aged very well, they are much poweful now, tsk.
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20100726 01:40:38< shadowmaster> EASTER EGG TIME!
20100726 01:40:42< shadowmaster> Let's analyze this.
20100726 01:40:44< shadowmaster> shadowm@bluecore:~/src/wesnoth-umc-dev/git/toolkit/ircbots-shikadibot$ git pull
20100726 01:40:47< shadowmaster> fatal: Where do you want to fetch from today?
20100726 01:40:49< shadowmaster> sounds familiar?
20100726 01:41:08< shadowmaster> it reminds me of Microsoft's old slogan for the Windows 95 campaign, "Where do you want to go today?"
20100726 01:42:13< Gambit> :\
20100726 01:42:18< Gambit> Not much of an easter egg
20100726 01:42:22< shadowmaster> (the technical reason for the error above, nonetheless, is that there are no origins associated with the git repository in that dir because they are managed through the git-svn interface, and not natively through git)
20100726 01:42:28< shadowmaster> Gambit: I know, right?
20100726 01:43:00< shadowmaster> I mean, it could've been "fatal: no origin specified"
20100726 01:43:06< Gambit> Also when I tried to use that pastebin as a reason why CFML is awesome Zarel provided this:
20100726 01:43:08< Gambit> $incoming = explode(' ',($message = substr($message, strpos($message,'!')+1)));
20100726 01:43:17< Gambit> It works, I just don't understand a lick of it :D
20100726 01:43:25< Gambit> (so I'm not going to use it >_> )
20100726 01:43:29< shadowmaster> or "fatal: please specify an origin"
20100726 01:43:35< Gambit> shadowmaster: Error messages with a sense of humor are fun :D
20100726 01:43:38< shadowmaster> but it had to be "fatal: Where do you want to fetch from today?"
20100726 01:43:45< shadowmaster> suspicious much?
20100726 01:44:23< shadowmaster> it coulda been "fatal: specify an origin, you bastard", or "fatal: where am I supposed to pull from?"
20100726 01:44:33< shadowmaster> but no, it had to be a line that suspiciously resembles the Windows 95 campaign's slogan
20100726 01:44:44< Gambit> [19:43:42] <shadowmaster> suspicious much? <===== Huh?
20100726 01:45:02< shadowmaster> Gambit: the line.
20100726 01:46:05< Gambit> wesbot: testing
20100726 01:46:11< Gambit> wesbot: seen Bob?
20100726 01:46:11<+wesbot> Gambit: Sorry, I don't know of Bob.
20100726 01:46:16< Gambit> Hmmm
20100726 01:46:20< shadowmaster> you know, I kind of wish the dentist din't stitch that thing. I won't be able to eat much until he removed it next thursday.
20100726 01:46:26< Gambit> For a while he would say "whatever you say"
20100726 01:46:37< shadowmaster> er.
20100726 01:46:45< shadowmaster> now where's elynia when you need her.
20100726 01:46:55 * shadowmaster glares suspiciously at wesbot
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20100726 01:47:06< shadowmaster> Gambit: yeah, noticed that too
20100726 01:47:09< Gambit> There was like 2 days there where he would go
20100726 01:47:14< Gambit> "Sender: whatever you say..."
20100726 01:47:27< shadowmaster> Also where is Aethaeryn when you need him,?
20100726 01:47:32< shadowmaster> hm
20100726 01:47:38< shadowmaster> wesbot: Seen Aethaeryn?
20100726 01:47:38<+wesbot> shadowmaster: Queried user last spoke 2h 27m ago.  Aethaeryn is currently here and on the channels #wesnoth and #wesnoth-dev.
20100726 01:47:44 * shadowmaster shrugs.
20100726 01:48:07< shadowmaster> Also where is Aethaeryn when you need him,?
20100726 01:48:11< shadowmaster> wesbot: Seen Aethaeryn?
20100726 01:48:11<+wesbot> shadowmaster: Queried user last spoke 2h 28m ago.  Aethaeryn is currently here and on the channels #wesnoth and #wesnoth-dev.
20100726 01:48:19< shadowmaster> Also where is Aethaeryn when you need him,?
20100726 01:48:19< shadowmaster> Also where is Aethaeryn when you need him,?
20100726 01:48:22< shadowmaster> oops.
20100726 01:48:42< shadowmaster> Gambit: try doing it within a second
20100726 01:48:43< shadowmaster> I can't think of anything else
20100726 01:49:02< Gambit> shadowmaster: Wha?
20100726 01:49:08< shadowmaster> and I probably can't pull that one off because I have client-side thortling enabled
20100726 01:49:16< shadowmaster> Gambit: oh wait, never mind
20100726 01:49:16< Gambit> wesbot: seen Bob?
20100726 01:49:16<+wesbot> Gambit: Sorry, I don't know of Bob.
20100726 01:49:18< Gambit> wesbot: seen Bob?
20100726 01:49:21< Gambit> wesbot: seen Bob?
20100726 01:49:23< Gambit> wesbot: seen Bob?
20100726 01:49:31< shadowmaster> I forgot I can see seconds in the logs.
20100726 01:49:39< shadowmaster> *can't
20100726 01:50:03< Gambit> I can.
20100726 01:50:10< Gambit> They were both 19:49:18
20100726 01:50:28< Gambit> I just don't understand what you're doing.
20100726 01:50:36< shadowmaster> Gambit: I was referring to the exchange in http://wesnoth.debian.net/%23wesnoth-umc-dev-2010-07-23.log around 03:25
20100726 01:50:39< Gambit> Or what it has to do with the mystery message.
20100726 01:50:52< Gambit> wow this channel is logged in 3 different locations?
20100726 01:50:58< shadowmaster> I thought that maybe wesbot's line was triggered by you sending both messages within one second, but then I realized that this log doesn't include secnds.
20100726 01:51:02< shadowmaster> Gambit: yes.
20100726 01:51:20< Gambit> shadowmaster: Yeah that.
20100726 01:51:23< shadowmaster> I don't like lobby's logs. Wesbot's logs are the original.
20100726 01:51:39< Gambit> shadowmaster: It had nothing to do with what I said in the previous line.
20100726 01:51:52< shadowmaster> (besides, unlike lobby's, they don't depend on wesnoth.org's availability)
20100726 01:52:33< shadowmaster> Gambit: I guess it was some obscure in-joke then.
20100726 01:52:37< Gambit> shadowmaster: in that 2 day window he would reply with "whatever you say..." to any private message
20100726 01:52:44< Gambit> or public message prepended with "wesbot:"
20100726 01:53:14< Gambit> shadowmaster: You mean like the "was fast" thing? :P
20100726 01:53:14<+wesbot> Gambit: Sometimes we are fast
20100726 01:53:22< Gambit> wesbot: lies
20100726 01:53:29< Gambit> was slow
20100726 01:53:33< Gambit> Hmmm.
20100726 01:53:44< Gambit> I seem to remember a fortune wherein he responded to "was slow"
20100726 01:53:54< Gambit> anyway
20100726 01:53:57< Gambit> supper time
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20100726 01:55:24< shadowmaster> Gambit: well, I don't.
20100726 01:59:08< shadowmaster> now we know
20100726 01:59:08<+shikadibotprime> And knowing is half the battle!
20100726 01:59:21< shadowmaster> Insert picture of Awesome here.
20100726 01:59:46< Gambit> rofl
20100726 01:59:59< Gambit> shadowmaster: GEB?
20100726 02:00:04< Gambit> oops
20100726 02:00:07< Gambit> shikadibotprime: GEB?
20100726 02:00:12<+shikadibotprime> Sorry, I don't know what 'GEB' means...
20100726 02:00:16< Gambit> shadowmaster: So what makes her prime?
20100726 02:00:20< Gambit> shikadibot: GEB?
20100726 02:00:20<+shikadibot> Sorry, I don't know what 'GEB' means...
20100726 02:00:29< shadowmaster> that she's running from her original home.
20100726 02:00:34< Gambit> Other than the awful reaction speed.
20100726 02:00:37< Gambit> ah prime as in first
20100726 02:00:39< Gambit> not best
20100726 02:00:40< Gambit> okay
20100726 02:00:47< shadowmaster> the awful reaction speed comes from my sluggish connection.
20100726 02:00:52<+CIA-38> wesnoth-umc-dev: shikadilord * r7480 /branches/irc-bots/shikadibot/shikadibot.pl: shikadibot: Time for another obscure in-joke
20100726 02:00:57< shadowmaster> 128 Kbps upload
20100726 02:01:05< shadowmaster> IIRC.
20100726 02:01:17< shadowmaster> well, "prime" also comes from that she's running with code that isn't in SVN.
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20100726 02:01:34< Gambit> shikadibot: What's the new joke?
20100726 02:01:37< Gambit> was slow
20100726 02:01:39< Gambit> ?
20100726 02:01:40< shadowmaster> now we know.
20100726 02:01:44< Gambit> shikadibot: now we know
20100726 02:01:45<+shikadibotprime> And knowing is half the battle!
20100726 02:01:48< Gambit> oh
20100726 02:01:49< shadowmaster> hm
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20100726 02:02:17< Gambit> tell me something I don't know
20100726 02:02:23< Gambit> (wait for it :o)
20100726 02:02:27< janebot> Gambit: The word "lethologica" describes the state of not being able to remember the word you want. I bet you didn't know that!
20100726 02:02:32< Gambit> Yeah I know I was just griping about reaction time.
20100726 02:02:37< shadowmaster> now we know
20100726 02:02:38<+shikadibotprime> And knowing is half the battle!
20100726 02:02:43< shadowmaster> now he knows.
20100726 02:02:44<+shikadibotprime> And knowing is half the battle!
20100726 02:02:46< shadowmaster> good
20100726 02:02:46< Gambit> Apache did nothing to improve the speed of external http requests
20100726 02:02:58< Gambit> It actually made it slower :\
20100726 02:03:07< Gambit> tell me something I don't know
20100726 02:03:11< janebot> Gambit: Flying from London to New York by Concord, due to the time zones crossed, you can arrive 2 hours before you leave. I bet you didn't know that!
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20100726 02:03:39< Gambit> tell me something I don't know
20100726 02:03:39< janebot> Gambit: Revolvers cannot be silenced because of all the noisy gasses which escape the cylinder gap at the rear of the barrel. I bet you didn't know that!
20100726 02:03:49< Gambit> There's 102 of these :D
20100726 02:03:56< Gambit> janebot: !part #wesnoth-umc-dev
20100726 02:03:57<+CIA-38> wesnoth-umc-dev: shikadilord * r7481 /branches/irc-bots/shikadibot/shikadibot.pl: shikadibot: extended a pattern a bit
20100726 02:04:06< Gambit> janebot: !part #wesnoth-umc-dev :deja vu
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20100726 02:04:21< Gambit> Err no colon in the commands :\
20100726 02:04:25< Gambit> shadowmaster: Before it was:
20100726 02:04:31< loonycyborg> Gambit: I bet you didn't know that some models of revolvers *can* be silenced :P
20100726 02:04:45< shadowmaster> Gambit: thanks, Gambit, now we know!
20100726 02:04:45<+shikadibotprime> And knowing is half the battle!
20100726 02:04:47< Gambit> "A certain frogatto developer once jokingly considered 'Forced Insemination' as a company name"
20100726 02:04:48<+shikadibot> And knowing is half the battle!
20100726 02:05:17< Gambit> But now it goes to this website that is totally out of my control (loonycyborg) and gets a random one from their list.
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20100726 02:05:48< Gambit> loonycyborg: And no I didn't know that. But now I know.
20100726 02:05:49<+shikadibot> And knowing is half the battle!
20100726 02:05:54< Espreon> He knoweth...
20100726 02:06:15< Espreon> shadowmaster: Fix her!
20100726 02:06:21< Gambit> now he knoweth
20100726 02:06:25< Gambit> :o
20100726 02:06:25< shadowmaster> too bad that there's not even a well-supported client extension to add links a la [url] or <a>
20100726 02:06:29< shadowmaster> Espreon: no
20100726 02:06:34< Gambit> Now you know.
20100726 02:06:35<+shikadibot> And knowing is half the battle!
20100726 02:06:51< shadowmaster> okay, let's not overuse this running gag now.
20100726 02:06:53< shadowmaster> <.<
20100726 02:06:57< shadowmaster> >.>
20100726 02:07:01< Gambit> Okay. I didn't know.
20100726 02:07:03< Gambit> But now...
20100726 02:07:19< Espreon> shadowmaster: You're mean!
20100726 02:07:26< shadowmaster> Espreon:  I know, right?
20100726 02:07:42< Gambit> *Now I kn0w, right?
20100726 02:07:59< shadowmaster> Gambit: no, not now.
20100726 02:08:03< shadowmaster> since, like, 2004.
20100726 02:08:15< Gambit> 2004 through present does include now.
20100726 02:08:23< Gambit> Unless you're using <=
20100726 02:08:34< Espreon> ... and she probably doesn't know about "knowest" either.
20100726 02:08:37< shadowmaster> you mean ≤, right?
20100726 02:08:38< Gambit> err
20100726 02:08:45< Gambit> *not using <=
20100726 02:08:52< Gambit> If you're just using <
20100726 02:08:56< shadowmaster> ≠, ≥, ≤
20100726 02:09:01< Gambit> compose key?
20100726 02:09:08< shadowmaster> yes.
20100726 02:09:18< Gambit> that is ≥ AWESOME
20100726 02:09:41< shadowmaster> and the combinations are pretty natural too..
20100726 02:09:52< shadowmaster> ø
20100726 02:12:03< shadowmaster> ¢
20100726 02:14:05< shadowmaster> Espreon: oooohh, I discovered something
20100726 02:14:20< Espreon> What?
20100726 02:14:26< shadowmaster> “” can also be achieved with alt gr + v and alt gr + b here
20100726 02:14:38< shadowmaster> easier to do like that than with compose
20100726 02:14:47< Gambit> "gr"?
20100726 02:15:09< shadowmaster> I already know about « and » with alt gr + z and alt gr + x
20100726 02:15:18< shadowmaster> Gambit: the right Alt key, which acts as Ctrl+Alt
20100726 02:15:39< Gambit> so.. both alts?
20100726 02:15:41< shadowmaster> it reads Alt gr on all the keyboards I've ever seen for the PC.
20100726 02:15:49< shadowmaster> no
20100726 02:16:00< shadowmaster> it acts as Ctrl+Alt, not Alt alone
20100726 02:16:09< Espreon> American keyboards don't have AltGr.
20100726 02:16:14< Gambit> Oh
20100726 02:16:14< shadowmaster> aw.
20100726 02:16:39< shadowmaster> I guess that's one point for Spanish and Latinamerican keyboards then. Awesome! Now I know!
20100726 02:16:39<+shikadibot> And knowing is half the battle!
20100726 02:17:21< Gambit> I would argue that the exact fraction depends upon the situation.
20100726 02:17:35< Gambit> Actually I wouldn't, because I'm not a nitpicker.
20100726 02:17:46< Gambit> But some might. :whistle:
20100726 02:18:04< shadowmaster> I don't know of anything that's in U.S. keyboards that isn't in Latinamerican keyboards. (key locations and scancodes don't count)
20100726 02:18:33< shadowmaster> even \ is can be achieved, with alt gr + '
20100726 02:18:38< shadowmaster> s/is//
20100726 02:19:15< shadowmaster> alt gr + - doesn something really weird
20100726 02:19:28< Espreon> shadowmaster: However... there is US International.
20100726 02:20:07< Gambit> also Valkier remember a few days ago when I said I read somewhere that druids were female woses?
20100726 02:20:16< Gambit> Well I found where I (mis)read that.
20100726 02:20:29< Gambit> The real word was "dryads"
20100726 02:20:34< shadowmaster> · = alt gr + .
20100726 02:20:38< Gambit> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=440348#p440348
20100726 02:21:05< shadowmaster> I seem to achieve an em dash in Kate with Alt gr + , but I can't in Terminator for some strange reason
20100726 02:22:03< shadowmaster> alt gr + a = æ
20100726 02:22:11< shadowmaster> alt gr + s = ß
20100726 02:22:59< shadowmaster> alt gr + d = ð, alt gr + f = đ, +g = ŋ, +h = ħ, +j = ...j, +k = ĸ, +l = ł
20100726 02:23:06< Gambit> Seargant Uvpopcorn
20100726 02:23:12< Gambit> You have been promoted!
20100726 02:23:17< shadowmaster> alt gr + ñ = ~
20100726 02:23:18< Gambit> Colonel Uvpopcorn
20100726 02:24:15< Gambit> General Lee Retarded you have been demoted!
20100726 02:24:23< shadowmaster> +w = ł, +e = €, +r = ¶, +t = ŧ, +y = ←, +u = ↓, +i = →, +o = ø, +p = þ
20100726 02:24:36< shadowmaster> Espreon: isn't this awesome?
20100726 02:24:40< Gambit> Hmm the WKUK had that all wrong.
20100726 02:24:45< Gambit> General does not go down to Major
20100726 02:24:53< shadowmaster> +m = µ (mu)
20100726 02:24:58< Gambit> The most badass rank ever demotes to major.
20100726 02:25:05< Gambit> Lieutenant Colonel
20100726 02:25:10< shadowmaster> +c = ¢
20100726 02:25:29< shadowmaster> +1 = | ... as if I didn't have a single key with that char.
20100726 02:25:37< Gambit> haha
20100726 02:25:38< shadowmaster> +2 does the same as +q, @
20100726 02:25:48< Gambit> ¢ is useful though
20100726 02:25:58< shadowmaster> +3 does the same as +.
20100726 02:26:01< Espreon> shadowmaster: I guess.
20100726 02:26:24< Gambit> You have a ñ key?
20100726 02:26:27< shadowmaster> +4 same as +ñ, ~, except it requires me to press a space bar after wards because it wporks like a dead key
20100726 02:26:39< shadowmaster> Gambit: yes, ñ is common in Spanish, so...
20100726 02:26:50< shadowmaster> well, relatively common.
20100726 02:26:53< Gambit> compose+~+n
20100726 02:26:59< shadowmaster> ½ = +5
20100726 02:27:04< shadowmaster> ¬ = +6
20100726 02:27:49< shadowmaster> { = +7 (single keypress available too...), [ = +8 (shift+{), ] = +9 (shift+}), } = +0 (single...)
20100726 02:27:52< Gambit> No compose key for em dash
20100726 02:27:57< Espreon> Uh...
20100726 02:27:59< shadowmaster> nothing for ¿ apparently, and for ', \
20100726 02:28:06< Espreon> Compose + - + - + - = —
20100726 02:28:11< Espreon> Compose + ? + ?
20100726 02:28:22< Espreon> ... = ¿
20100726 02:28:29< Gambit> oh I didn't know triple keys worked
20100726 02:28:37 * Espreon chuckles
20100726 02:28:47< Gambit> heeentaresting
20100726 02:29:10< Espreon> Compose + - + - + . = –
20100726 02:29:44< Gambit> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd0o98EjLf4
20100726 02:33:01<+CIA-38> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7482 /branches/irc-bots/shikadibot/shikadibot.pl: shikadibot: made the in-joke support more forms of 'know'.
20100726 02:33:37< shadowmaster> now he knoweth.
20100726 02:33:41<+shikadibot> And knowing is half the battle!
20100726 02:33:42< shadowmaster> hm
20100726 02:33:56< shadowmaster> ah, forgot that it's syncing after /UPGRADE
20100726 02:35:18< Gambit> So now shikadibot knows about knoweth and knowest?
20100726 02:35:38< Gambit> (must be last word in sentance?)
20100726 02:35:43< shadowmaster> yes, now she knowth.
20100726 02:35:44<+shikadibot> And knowing is half the battle!
20100726 02:35:52< Espreon> ... and "knowst" and "knowth"...
20100726 02:36:06< Gambit> It has been knownst
20100726 02:36:21< Espreon> Ugh...
20100726 02:36:31< Espreon> KILL IT WITH FIRE!
20100726 02:36:34< Gambit> ♥
20100726 02:36:51< Gambit> Kill it to death by burning it with heat.
20100726 02:37:21< Espreon> ...
20100726 02:37:36< Espreon> Force its demise with blazes!
20100726 02:37:46< Gambit> Heh
20100726 02:39:23< Gambit> The temperature; tis rising. Promptly remove thy clothing.
20100726 02:40:13<+CIA-38> wesnoth-umc-dev: shikadilord * r7483 /branches/irc-bots/shikadibot/shikadibot.dict: shikadibot: add a few other acronyms...
20100726 02:40:24< Gambit> shikadibot: GEB?
20100726 02:40:28<+shikadibot> GEB: Gambit's Empier Builder
20100726 02:40:34< Gambit> -jeaopardy music plays-
20100726 02:40:36< shadowmaster> hahaha
20100726 02:40:36< Gambit> shikadibot: TSL?
20100726 02:40:41<+shikadibot> TSL: The Silver Lands
20100726 02:40:50< Gambit> (spellingsss)
20100726 02:41:13< shadowmaster> I know
20100726 02:41:25< Gambit> I meant "jeaopardy"
20100726 02:41:30< Gambit> But now I noticed "Empier"
20100726 02:41:36< shadowmaster> jeopardy
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20100726 02:42:04< shadowmaster> unless there's some band named jeaopardy
20100726 02:42:12<+CIA-38> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7484 /branches/irc-bots/shikadibot/ (COPYING ChangeLog DISCLAIMER): shikadibot: set svn:eol-style on some files.
20100726 02:42:16<+CIA-38> wesnoth-umc-dev: shikadilord * r7485 /branches/irc-bots/shikadibot/shikadibot.dict: shikadibot: typo
20100726 02:42:34< shadowmaster> shikadibot: GEB?
20100726 02:42:37<+shikadibot> GEB: Gambit's Empire Builder
20100726 02:42:40-!- loonybot [~loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20100726 02:43:06< shadowmaster> Gambit: see? no reloading involved.
20100726 02:43:26< shadowmaster> shikadibot: ED?
20100726 02:43:26<+shikadibot> ED: Encyclopædia Dramatica
20100726 02:43:31< Gambit> dude Espreon check out what I just found
20100726 02:43:37< Espreon> Hwæt?
20100726 02:43:43< Gambit> http://memegenerator.net/Joseph-Ducreux/ImageMacro/661071/Joseph-Ducreux-Your-mom-circulates-like-a-public-key-Servicing-more-requests-than-HTTP-She-keeps-all-her-ports-open-like-Windows-ME.jpg
20100726 02:43:48< Gambit> long file name is long :\
20100726 02:43:54< Gambit> holy cow
20100726 02:44:08< Espreon> Wow...
20100726 02:44:57< Espreon> It seems that svn propset hates pykadibot's "COPYING.LESSER"
20100726 02:45:20< Gambit> pykadibot? as in python?
20100726 02:45:28< shadowmaster> yes
20100726 02:45:37< Espreon> What's so great about pykadibot again?
20100726 02:45:53< shadowmaster> that AI0867 will eventually complete it.
20100726 02:45:55< shadowmaster> and it'll hopefully look like a program instead of crap.
20100726 02:46:23< Gambit> cue shadowmaster kicking shikadibot
20100726 02:46:37< shadowmaster> not her fault.
20100726 02:46:45< shadowmaster> It's mine for learning Perl as I  wrote shikadibot.
20100726 02:46:51< shadowmaster> now I know much better than that.
20100726 02:47:01< shadowmaster> I can now write readable Perl.
20100726 02:47:22< shadowmaster> i.e. umcreg
20100726 02:48:28< Espreon> I want mah Blackmore!
20100726 02:48:45< Gambit> shadowmaster: If I were to announce franbot's forum subscription feature; would that go in user's?
20100726 02:48:51< Gambit> s/fran/jane/
20100726 02:49:01< shadowmaster> no.
20100726 02:49:11< Gambit> User's forum is like off-topic; except related to wesnoth...
20100726 02:49:14< Espreon> It wouldn't go anywhere...™
20100726 02:49:22< Gambit> shadowmaster: þen hwere?
20100726 02:49:23< shadowmaster> what Espreon said.
20100726 02:49:33< Gambit> awww
20100726 02:49:46< Gambit> Why?
20100726 02:50:10< Gambit> It's just as useful as the silly lobby bot.
20100726 02:50:30< shadowmaster> which isn't announced anywhere.
20100726 02:50:44< Gambit> shadowmaster: err yeah it is
20100726 02:50:53< Gambit> shadowmaster: Multiplayer development
20100726 02:51:02< Gambit> I was refering to the user created mp lobby bot.
20100726 02:51:36< Gambit> The one that acts as an interface to WS... I can't remember the acronym.
20100726 02:51:42< Gambit> Norbert's thingamawhozit.
20100726 02:51:58< shadowmaster> youyou know better than Norbert.
20100726 02:53:10< Espreon> Damn it, tomorrow is Monday.
20100726 02:53:23< Gambit> Yep.
20100726 02:53:32< Gambit> aka The-Best-Day-Of-The-Week-Eve
20100726 03:00:05< Gambit> tomorows todo list: increase swap space to enable hibernation
20100726 03:03:07< Gambit> or not "Hibernation is not supported under Wubi, moreover Wubi filesystem is more vulnerable to hard-reboots (turning off the power) and power outages than a normal filesystem, so try to avoid unplugging the power. An Ubuntu installation to a dedicated partition provides a filesystem that is more robust and can better tolerate such events."
20100726 03:04:59< Gambit> shadowmaster: Want to play some wesnoth tomorow?
20100726 03:10:13< Gambit> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=445061#p445061 (THIS. IS. ARTA!)
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20100726 04:27:12< Valkier> shadowmaster: Make esr come back!
20100726 04:29:02< Espreon> Valkier: Just drive to his house.
20100726 04:29:07< Espreon> ... he is in PA...
20100726 04:30:59< Valkier> Yeah but he lives by Philadelphia.
20100726 04:31:14< Valkier> Screw that place. I'll get shot somewhere less crowded if 
20100726 04:31:19< Valkier> if I have any say in it.
20100726 04:31:45< Espreon> Oh, shut up.
20100726 04:32:12< Espreon> It's not like you're going in the city.
20100726 04:32:22< Valkier> I might!
20100726 04:32:27< Valkier> I get lost easily.
20100726 04:32:29< Valkier> And then BAM
20100726 04:32:32< Valkier> Shot in the throat.
20100726 04:33:04< Espreon> I see...
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20100726 04:41:34< King_Elendil> shadowmaster, do you know of any add-ons that have an Elk?
20100726 04:44:07< Espreon> King_Elendil: Hey, this channel should be on your autojoin list. ;)
20100726 04:45:05< King_Elendil> it is, but I was to lazy to open my chat client- this is from my browser ;)
20100726 04:45:16< Espreon> Also, I'm sure that there's an elk floating around the fora somewhere...
20100726 04:45:19< Espreon> IDK.
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20100726 05:58:55< Gambit> ¯\(°_o)/¯
20100726 05:59:46< Espreon> Hwæt?
20100726 06:00:00< Valkier> http://forums.wesnoth.org/download/file.php?id=43634
20100726 06:00:08< Valkier> I think I'm getting a tiny bit better.
20100726 06:00:57< Espreon> I don't know what to think...
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20100726 06:04:32< shadowmaster> hi mysticX 
20100726 06:04:43< mysticX> hi
20100726 06:05:08< shadowmaster> Gambit: up past midnight?
20100726 06:05:16< shadowmaster> that's unusual for you.
20100726 06:05:16< Gambit> no
20100726 06:05:21< Gambit> I'm a fiment of your imagination
20100726 06:05:30< shadowmaster> 00:04:54 [ctcp(Gambit)] TIME 
20100726 06:05:31< shadowmaster> 00:04:55 CTCP TIME reply from Gambit: Mon Jul 26 00:04:50 2010
20100726 06:05:55< shadowmaster> the word you are looking for is "figment", not "fiment"
20100726 06:06:02< Gambit> bah typos
20100726 06:06:07< Gambit> it's too late at night ;)
20100726 06:06:15< shadowmaster> noted
20100726 06:06:21< Valkier> It's only midnight. :-P
20100726 06:06:35< Gambit> hmm so there's a time request?
20100726 06:06:41< shadowmaster> yes, I know, but most of you don't stay up late.
20100726 06:06:42 * Gambit adds to tomorow's todo list
20100726 06:06:49< shadowmaster> Gambit: CTCP TIME
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20100726 06:07:54< shadowmaster> he's probably looking for something to the effect of "He's Dead, Lois."
20100726 06:10:20< Aethaeryn> I knew making Kryptonite vodka was a bad idea.
20100726 06:14:49< shadowmaster> hm.
20100726 06:15:02< shadowmaster> Chromium's datafiles are in Debian experimental.
20100726 06:15:04< shadowmaster> Chromium itself is not.
20100726 06:15:08< Aethaeryn> :o
20100726 06:15:30< Espreon> Oh wow...
20100726 06:16:04< shadowmaster> and that people, is why you don't pull packages from Debian experimental without knowing exactly what you are doing ;)
20100726 06:16:15< shadowmaster> anyway I guess Chromium isn't going to enter Sid or Testing at this point.
20100726 06:16:43< shadowmaster> Iceweasel 3.6 is already restricted to Experimental until Squeeze leaves Testing.
20100726 06:17:09< Aethaeryn> shadowmaster: Debian does not have Chromium? Or it does?
20100726 06:17:40< shadowmaster> Aethaeryn: no, it doesn't, yet.
20100726 06:17:47< shadowmaster> Google has a repository for installing Google Chrome on Debian though.
20100726 06:18:25< shadowmaster> but I heard Chromium doesn't have some of the cool Big Brother features that Chrome has.
20100726 06:18:39< Aethaeryn> ah
20100726 06:18:42< Aethaeryn> same with Fedora
20100726 06:18:55< Aethaeryn> this is the search results I got:
20100726 06:18:56< Aethaeryn> ============================== Matched: chromium ===============================
20100726 06:18:59< Aethaeryn> chromium-bsu.i686 : Fast paced, arcade-style, top-scrolling space shooter
20100726 06:19:15< shadowmaster> yeah, Debian also has a transitional package named "chromium" which pulls that game.
20100726 06:19:35< shadowmaster> I guess it'll go in the next release cycle and be replaced with the browser.
20100726 06:19:53< shadowmaster> I mean, after Squeeze becomes the new Stable.
20100726 06:20:05< shadowmaster> which was supposed to occur next month, but stuff happens. :3
20100726 06:20:44< Aethaeryn> meh
20100726 06:20:52< Aethaeryn> Almost installed chromium, but it's another arcade-style game
20100726 06:20:58< Aethaeryn> of which Linux seems to have millions 
20100726 06:21:10< Aethaeryn> That's why I'm drawn to strategy games and platformers
20100726 06:21:13< Aethaeryn> Because they're rarer at least
20100726 06:21:58< shadowmaster> does any of you have some experience with external HDD manufacturers?
20100726 06:24:43< shadowmaster> let's take a taste of iceweasel's stdout/stderr
20100726 06:25:22 * shadowmaster throws up
20100726 06:25:49< shadowmaster> http://pastebin.com/6EqkMWQC
20100726 06:26:32< shadowmaster> I guess a lot of stuff just happens behind the scne. Note that Adobe Reader's output got mixed in there too
20100726 06:26:55< Aethaeryn> Western Digital (WD) seems to make nice external HDDs
20100726 06:26:59< Aethaeryn> thus far
20100726 06:27:36< Aethaeryn> I have a 2 TB from them that I got on Amazon a while back that actually is cheaper than any 2 TB internal HDD I could find when I was building my desktop
20100726 06:27:51< shadowmaster> how much has it lived?
20100726 06:28:03< Aethaeryn> so far it's been about 3-4ish months
20100726 06:28:07< Aethaeryn> so I can't judge too much on it.
20100726 06:28:15< Aethaeryn> reformatted it ext 4 and it's really fast, even over USB, though
20100726 06:28:16< Aethaeryn> really fast
20100726 06:28:34< shadowmaster> well, I got a WD internal HDD for blackcore last year...it got fried after 15 minutes idle.
20100726 06:28:52< shadowmaster> I can't know if I was just that unlucky, or the PSU is causing problems.
20100726 06:29:18< shadowmaster> luckily I could get a refund.
20100726 06:30:08< shadowmaster> I mean, 15 minutes idle. Completely idle. There was absolutely nothing accessing the disk drive because I was trying to decide on a partition scheme while installing Debian.
20100726 06:30:21< Aethaeryn> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001C271MA/ref=oss_product
20100726 06:30:23< shadowmaster> it was just spinning idly.
20100726 06:30:32< Aethaeryn> I have that and it hasn't failed yet
20100726 06:30:35< shadowmaster> and then it landed.
20100726 06:30:38< Aethaeryn> for the internal
20100726 06:30:46< Espreon> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolphin_%28emulator%29 — Interesting...
20100726 06:30:48< shadowmaster> and started to make noises like if it was trying to restart itself every 10 seconds
20100726 06:31:11< Espreon> Aethaeryn: You must try it out!
20100726 06:31:17< Aethaeryn> I get it through Amazon though, that's now only offered third-party apparently
20100726 06:31:42< shadowmaster> Espreon: wow, nice.
20100726 06:32:53< Aethaeryn> Espreon: I've only ever emulated 2D
20100726 06:32:59< shadowmaster> crap, there's OpenGL 4.0 now?
20100726 06:33:09< Aethaeryn> How the hell do you play Wii on the PC though?
20100726 06:33:11< shadowmaster> and Mesa doesn't ever get to support 3.0 yet!
20100726 06:33:20< shadowmaster> /o\
20100726 06:33:35< shadowmaster> this, people, is the main reason for NOT using Linux.
20100726 06:34:12< shadowmaster> unless you have a desktop-class AMD ATI, or a NVIDIA and don't have a problem with using proprietary drivers.
20100726 06:34:45< shadowmaster> or onboard Intel GPU that's unlikely to support much awesomeness in any operating system either way-
20100726 06:35:10< Espreon> Aethaeryn: I've seen people using Wiimotes with their comps.
20100726 06:35:13< Aethaeryn> also, Wii isn't really 7th generation console... more like 6.5th since it's just Gamecube with a remote tacked on
20100726 06:35:18< Aethaeryn> Espreon: On Linux?
20100726 06:35:21< Espreon> Yeah.
20100726 06:35:25< Aethaeryn> k
20100726 06:35:41< Aethaeryn> Can you read the games themselves?
20100726 06:35:47< Aethaeryn> I have a ton of old Gamecube games lying around
20100726 06:35:59< Aethaeryn> On their crappy minidisc things
20100726 06:36:07< shadowmaster> some manufacturer should declare itself bankrupt, void any existing NDAs and patents over their technologies, and release their programmers into the wild so we can kidnap them for improving Mesa
20100726 06:36:14< Espreon> Aethaeryn: IDK.
20100726 06:36:24< Espreon> shadowmaster: YES!
20100726 06:36:29< shadowmaster> ...to support some obsolete hardware device. DAMMIT.
20100726 06:37:42< Espreon> Aethaeryn: Just download the ISOs/whatevers or learn how to get the image.
20100726 06:37:56< Aethaeryn> shadowmaster: We need a billionaire anarchist who is against intellectual property...
20100726 06:38:06< Aethaeryn> So they can buy up a ton of computer-related stuff and release them CC-0
20100726 06:38:10< Espreon> I've gotten images from PS1 discs, but I've never tried getting images from GameCube discs.
20100726 06:39:17< Aethaeryn> Espreon: Comcast are nazis
20100726 06:39:38< Aethaeryn> I'd rather rip stuff I legally own than download stuff I legally own... even though technically the end result is the same.
20100726 06:39:40< Espreon> Who cares about them?
20100726 06:40:05< Espreon> I don't... for I no longer use Comcast's services.
20100726 06:40:11< shadowmaster> aOpenGL 4.0
20100726 06:40:11< shadowmaster> Released 11 March 2010
20100726 06:40:13< shadowmaster> Supported Cards: nVIDIA GeForce GTX 400 series, ATI Radeon HD 5000 series
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20100726 06:40:38< shadowmaster> * Drawing of data generated by OpenGL or external APIs such as OpenCL, without CPU intervention.
20100726 06:40:43< Aethaeryn> When I move out on my own I'll probably not get TV, home phone, etc., and instead just get a really awesome Internet
20100726 06:40:50< shadowmaster> * Two new shader stages that enable the GPU to offload geometry tessellation from the CPU.
20100726 06:40:57< Aethaeryn> Not this stupid consumer class Internet
20100726 06:41:01< shadowmaster> * Performance improvements; such as instanced geometry shaders, instanced arrays and a new timer query.
20100726 06:41:22< shadowmaster> that sound you are hearing?
20100726 06:41:27< shadowmaster> it's me smashing my head on the wall.
20100726 06:42:04< Aethaeryn> again, we need a billionaire IP anarchist who wants to donate his money to releasing as many things as possible into CC-0
20100726 06:42:25< Aethaeryn> note "IP anarchist" doesn't mean "political anarchist" but rather "I don't like intellectual property as a concept"
20100726 06:42:45< shadowmaster> there are no words in the world to describe my heart-deep hatred towards graphics controller manufacturers.
20100726 06:43:46< Aethaeryn> But there are plenty of words in the cursed tongue of Mordor
20100726 06:44:39< shadowmaster> "Loki Software was founded on November 9, 1998 by Scott Draeker, a former lawyer who became interested in porting games to Linux after being introduced to the system through his work as a software licensing attorney."
20100726 06:44:55< shadowmaster> look, a lawyer invested on Linux!
20100726 06:45:04< shadowmaster> well, technologies for use on Linux.
20100726 06:45:31< shadowmaster> "Although successful in its goal of bringing games to the Linux platform, the company was eventually forced to close due to financial troubles[6], with it declaring Chapter 11 Bankruptcy Protection in August 2001[7], and finally being disbanded in January 2002."
20100726 06:46:04< shadowmaster> "Loki developed several free software tools, such as the Loki installer (also known as Loki Setup), and supported the development of the Simple DirectMedia Layer. They also started the OpenAL audio library project (now being run by Creative Technology and Apple Inc.). These are still often credited as being the cornerstones of Linux game development."
20100726 06:47:07< shadowmaster> in other news.
20100726 06:47:19< shadowmaster> why would a HDD have an internal cache?
20100726 06:47:32< shadowmaster> I mean, it's not like OSes like Linux and Windows don't do their own file caching already...
20100726 06:48:44< shadowmaster> Oh, look at what I found! A washing mach- I mean hard disk! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IBM_350_RAMAC.jpg
20100726 06:50:41< Aethaeryn> shadowmaster: Unfortunately, I don't think there's enough of the Mordor language avaialable for you to curse graphics controller manufacturers... :-(
20100726 06:50:44< Aethaeryn> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Speech
20100726 06:50:58< Aethaeryn> Apparently Tolkein didn't like the language.
20100726 06:52:01< Aethaeryn> hrmmm
20100726 06:52:22< Aethaeryn> Espreon: We should be linguists who instead of doing boring language-study stuff just learn the basic linguistics stuff...
20100726 06:52:25< Aethaeryn> and then create languages.
20100726 06:52:40< Espreon> Uh, I do that too.
20100726 06:52:47< Espreon> (Learn basic shit)
20100726 06:55:16< Espreon> In other news, I have a new attack...
20100726 06:56:23< Espreon> Yeahz...
20100726 06:58:16< Aethaeryn> well, I'm thinking about a language where each sentence is one word, Espreon 
20100726 06:58:22< Aethaeryn> just for lulz.
20100726 06:58:36< shadowmaster> if I were a Wesnoth villain, I'd kidnap Marvin and Thera and kill them every minute just for the lulz
20100726 06:58:45< Aethaeryn> Espreon: Just prefixes and suffixes to a verb.
20100726 06:58:56< Aethaeryn> shadowmaster: I think there's a trope for that
20100726 06:58:57< shadowmaster> Morvin.
20100726 06:59:04< shadowmaster> Aethaeryn: no wai
20100726 06:59:28< shadowmaster> do I need to use my completion sequence?
20100726 06:59:51< shadowmaster> People, we have...a TROPE!
20100726 06:59:53< shadowmaster> http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ForTheEvulz
20100726 07:00:35< Aethaeryn> wow
20100726 07:00:41< Aethaeryn> The Joker is so wrong.
20100726 07:00:45< Aethaeryn> There are some things that can't burn.
20100726 07:01:36< shadowmaster> I didn't notice that http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MatrixRainingCode is now a Self Demonstrating Article...that doesn't really work.
20100726 07:01:49< shadowmaster> the category names look more like fit for Zalgo
20100726 07:02:05< Espreon> Hooray for Zalgo!
20100726 07:03:12< shadowmaster> so...I forgot what I was looking for.
20100726 07:06:36< shadowmaster> also, http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ForTheLulz
20100726 07:06:49< Espreon> YAY!
20100726 07:26:47<+CIA-38> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7486 /branches/1.8/Grafted_Era/ (386 files in 48 dirs): Checked in 'Grafted Era'.
20100726 07:28:27< shadowmaster> what is GE about?
20100726 07:30:13< Espreon> That's mysticX's abomination.
20100726 07:30:16< Espreon> Rigt mysticX?
20100726 07:30:19< Espreon> *Right
20100726 07:30:41< mysticX> it's about factions added to default
20100726 07:31:24< mysticX> it's like multiple default+faction in one
20100726 07:38:45<+CIA-38> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7487 /branches/1.8/Grafted_Era/ (changelog.txt dist/VERSION): GE: changed the version to 0.2.2-svn, for 0.2.2 has not been released yet.
20100726 07:38:54< shadowmaster> Good news, everyone!
20100726 07:38:57< Espreon> Hwæt?
20100726 07:39:02< shadowmaster> Someone's selling Proactol in the forums.
20100726 07:39:08< shadowmaster> Dunno waht it is
20100726 07:39:17< shadowmaster> But since they bothered o put it intheir signature, itmust be good, right?
20100726 07:40:29< shadowmaster> I wonder how many false positives we would get if I setup this addon that checks against DNSBL databases on registration
20100726 07:40:53< shadowmaster> (as opposed to phpBB' builtin feature which checks against a couple of databases on every fucking action)
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20100726 08:05:26< Espreon> ... and we almost have fifty projects registered...
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20100726 08:27:38< shadowmaster> wow, low level formatting of hard disks *did* exist.
20100726 08:28:07< shadowmaster> now I know it wasn't just me hallucinating on a PC manual.
20100726 08:29:15< shadowmaster> now the question ensues... why http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drive_mapping doesn't mention Unix mount-points‽
20100726 08:29:52< shadowmaster> I guess it's not a related thing, but it could be good for adding more contrast to the article's contents.
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20100726 09:22:23<+CIA-38> wesnoth-umc-dev: ln-zookeeper * r7488 /trunk/Diplomacy_Era/ (7 files in 2 dirs): First commit of Diplomacy Era.
20100726 09:24:02< shadowmaster> addproject Diplomacy_Era ln-zookeeper trunk/Diplomacy_Era Diplomacy Era
20100726 09:24:06< shadowmaster> oops
20100726 09:24:41< zookeeper> whatchadoin
20100726 09:25:21< shadowmaster> adding the registry entry.
20100726 09:26:04< zookeeper> kk
20100726 09:32:51< zookeeper> btw, it's made on 1.8 so technically i guess it should be in the 1.8 branch, but i'll branch it off later, when trunk becomes more usable again so that i can actually use it to work on this.
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20100726 15:39:39< Gambit> Installing a game remotely for your little brother so you don't even have to get up == awesome
20100726 15:39:46< Gambit> If that makes me lazy, well so be it.
20100726 16:06:32< timotei> :))
20100726 16:11:40< Gambit> timotei: Want to play some wesnoth?
20100726 16:11:49< timotei> Gambit: um...
20100726 16:12:14< timotei> Gambit: I don't know to play :))
20100726 16:12:18< timotei> but ok, I could try
20100726 16:12:42< Gambit> timotei: Hmm I just got a fourth player actually. (sorry)
20100726 16:12:48< timotei> ok:)
20100726 16:12:48< timotei> np
20100726 16:12:49< timotei> ;)
20100726 16:12:51< Gambit> :\
20100726 16:12:58< timotei> no problem :P
20100726 16:14:21< Gambit> it took him several minutes to answer
20100726 16:37:57< Gambit> timotei: We lost a guy to a bugged version of wesnoth (or something)
20100726 16:38:09< Gambit> want to play now? :)
20100726 16:38:16< timotei> :P
20100726 16:38:17< timotei> ye
20100726 16:38:30< timotei> official server?
20100726 16:38:37< timotei> btw, using trunk
20100726 16:38:38< timotei> is ok?
20100726 16:38:49< Gambit> umm
20100726 16:38:55< Gambit> You'll need an addon from 1.8
20100726 16:39:00< Gambit> and 1.8's mp server
20100726 16:39:21< timotei> ok wait
20100726 16:39:23< timotei> what addon?
20100726 16:39:27< Gambit> "Breaking Ground"
20100726 16:39:33< timotei> ok, sec
20100726 16:39:59< Gambit> (hopefully trunk is still compatable...)
20100726 16:40:13< timotei> ok addon downloaded
20100726 16:40:38< timotei> what's the address of MP server?
20100726 16:40:46< Gambit> uhhh
20100726 16:40:49< Gambit> Dunno
20100726 16:40:51< timotei> well, ok let me check
20100726 16:41:03< timotei> I'm the dev, meh...
20100726 16:41:10< Gambit> I thought it redirected based upon version.
20100726 16:41:21< timotei> let's check:P
20100726 16:42:26< timotei> lol
20100726 16:42:31< timotei> the interface screwed up
20100726 16:43:29< Gambit> So trunk can't/won't connect to 1.8 mp server?
20100726 16:43:38< timotei> I'm trying now
20100726 16:43:46< timotei> it's still 'reading from server':P
20100726 16:43:52< Gambit> ah
20100726 16:45:03< Gambit> The server does kick for being too old. I'm not sure about too new though.
20100726 16:45:17< timotei> oh
20100726 16:45:18< timotei> :))
20100726 16:45:29< Gambit> No joy?
20100726 16:46:24< timotei> 40 seconds till 1.8.3 downloaded
20100726 16:46:25< timotei> or wait
20100726 16:46:27< timotei> 1.8.0 works?:)
20100726 16:47:30< Gambit> Yes
20100726 16:47:35< Gambit> Though the lobby sucks
20100726 16:49:00< Gambit> timotei: Do you have 1.8.0?
20100726 16:49:08< timotei> 1.8.3 is installing
20100726 16:49:12< timotei> almost finished
20100726 16:51:10< timotei> ok ready to rock
20100726 16:51:15< timotei> lol
20100726 16:51:19< timotei> 1.8.3 loads in a spot:)
20100726 16:51:22< Gambit> Are you in server?
20100726 16:51:24< timotei> too fast
20100726 16:51:26< Gambit> Make sure to grab the addon
20100726 16:51:27< timotei> wait
20100726 17:32:47< timotei> Gambit: still there?
20100726 17:32:51< timotei> Gambit: I can't see anyone moving:(
20100726 17:43:01< Gambit> hmmm
20100726 17:43:04< Gambit> timotei: weird
20100726 17:43:21< Gambit> timotei: up for a new game?
20100726 17:45:00< Gambit> timotei: poke
20100726 17:45:18< Gambit> timotei: prod
20100726 17:45:24< Gambit> timotei: needle
20100726 17:52:26< timotei> yeah
20100726 17:52:28< timotei> just ate:P
20100726 17:59:27< Gambit> ugh
20100726 18:00:06< Gambit> I couldn't figure out a polite way to decline playing wesnoth with IPS...
20100726 18:00:28< Gambit> And apparently he doesn't believe in reading intro text to figure out how to play.
20100726 18:01:29< timotei> yeah
20100726 18:01:33< timotei> just kick him
20100726 18:02:28< Gambit> It's tempting. But I can't without a reason.
20100726 18:04:03< timotei> why?
20100726 18:04:03< timotei> :))
20100726 18:04:08< timotei> let me kick him:P
20100726 18:04:10< timotei> rtfm
20100726 18:04:13< timotei> that's the reason
20100726 18:05:20< Gambit> my moral center does not allow it
20100726 18:08:16< Gambit> Plus I don't want to be responsible for the next
20100726 18:08:33< Gambit> "OMG THE HOST KICKED ME SO UNFAIR HE SHOULD GET BANNED!" thread on the forums
20100726 18:08:34< timotei> :))
20100726 18:08:40< timotei> oh, right!
20100726 18:08:41< timotei> :P
20100726 18:36:05< Gambit> wow
20100726 18:36:14< Gambit> and now he's preaching to you about reading the help
20100726 18:36:16< Gambit> lmao
20100726 18:36:55< timotei> Gambit: if I place a harvest
20100726 18:36:57< timotei> near a already chasm
20100726 18:37:02< timotei> it takes money from chasm?
20100726 18:38:31< Gambit> nope
20100726 18:38:58< timotei> ok
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20100726 18:43:16< timotei> hmm, so what's a cave?:P
20100726 18:43:26< timotei> isn't the 'chasm'?
20100726 18:43:57< Gambit> no
20100726 18:43:58< Gambit> mcave is gray
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20100726 18:44:21< Gambit> cave is that gray lumpy stuff
20100726 18:44:33< timotei> look
20100726 18:44:36< timotei> labeled one
20100726 18:44:57< Gambit> yep
20100726 18:45:11< timotei> hmm
20100726 18:45:17< timotei> I can't kill silver's both man:(
20100726 18:45:23< timotei> maybe with upgrading?:P
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20100726 18:56:12< Gambit> this spanish transliteration is making me go insane
20100726 18:56:41< timotei> :P
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20100726 19:03:18< Gambit> "I will do not kill any body"
20100726 19:03:20< Gambit> "I will grown"
20100726 19:03:37< timotei> yeah
20100726 19:03:39< timotei> damn it
20100726 19:03:41< timotei> kick silver..:(
20100726 19:03:45< timotei> I got that damn bug:|
20100726 19:03:49< timotei> now he's killing me
20100726 19:03:51< timotei> not fair
20100726 19:09:55< Gambit> What bug?
20100726 19:10:21< timotei> god... what were we talking the whole game?:|
20100726 19:10:42< Gambit> timotei: When you buy a unit, you must wait one turn for it to attack.
20100726 19:10:46< Gambit> *EVEN* if you upgrade it
20100726 19:10:49< timotei> I know
20100726 19:10:53< timotei> but it was already there...
20100726 19:10:54< Gambit> it will still have recruitment sickness
20100726 19:11:13< Gambit> "I'm so fragible" :D
20100726 19:11:18< timotei> :))
20100726 19:15:52< shadowmaster> > What browser and OS?
20100726 19:15:56< shadowmaster> > Explorer 7 and Microsoft XP.
20100726 19:16:21< shadowmaster> we all know that Microsoft hasn't made any other OSes besides Windows, right?
20100726 19:16:24< shadowmaster> RIGHT?
20100726 19:17:16< timotei> :))
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20100726 19:24:54< Valkier> Damn it!
20100726 19:25:00< Valkier> Where's ESR!
20100726 19:25:00< timotei> hehe
20100726 19:25:02< timotei> http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010/07/26/technology/AP-US-TEC-Digital-Copyright.html?_r=1&hp
20100726 19:30:49< Gambit> shadowmaster: morning
20100726 19:30:54< Gambit> *afternoon
20100726 19:32:43< Gambit> timotei: AWESOME
20100726 19:33:02< timotei> :D
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20100726 19:59:26< Gambit> [insert evil laugh]
20100726 19:59:40< Valkier> DIE
20100726 19:59:41< timotei> how the ... I exit?
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20100726 20:02:37< Gambit> shadowmaster: http://www.frogatto.com/forum/index.php?topic=33.msg203#msg203
20100726 20:02:42< Gambit> Kill it to death by burning it with heat!
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20100726 20:02:54< Gambit> (As the cool people say)
20100726 20:03:20< shadowmaster> Gambit: what's the problem?
20100726 20:04:00< Gambit> Are colors allowed on frogatto forums?
20100726 20:04:25< shadowmaster> we don't have a posting policy defined yet and I'm not the one that's going to do that.
20100726 20:05:22< shadowmaster> I'm not going to invest time on forum management that could be better spent on actual game development.
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20100726 20:30:15< timotei> shadowmaster: http://0000free.com/blog/index.php?number=1&action=1##comments
20100726 20:30:24< timotei> shadowmaster: I think I need to agree with you:P
20100726 20:31:19< timotei> but still, isn't any other free host solution (that is ... ok) besides shared/free?
20100726 20:31:28< shadowmaster> uh?
20100726 20:31:42< timotei> well, that guy commented on his own post:))
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20100726 20:32:36< noy> timotei: I kinda posted that on #wesnoth-dev
20100726 20:33:05< timotei> noy: the link with apple?:P
20100726 20:33:10< shadowmaster> timotei: too much free stuff. Suspicious
20100726 20:33:10< noy> yes
20100726 20:33:17< timotei> noy: you didn't post it there... so I posted 
20100726 20:33:30< noy> yeah I did
20100726 20:33:37< noy> about an hour ago at least
20100726 20:33:40< shadowmaster> timotei: I  Mean, 3 mysql databases for free?
20100726 20:33:46< shadowmaster> free domain name?
20100726 20:33:50< shadowmaster> 1 GB of storage for free?
20100726 20:34:00< shadowmaster> up to *4* websites for free?
20100726 20:34:11< shadowmaster> that can't be good.
20100726 20:34:24< timotei> noy: well, I thought there are people that don't stay on -dev but on -umc-dev...
20100726 20:34:30< shadowmaster> oh wait, no the free domain isn't part of the deal
20100726 20:34:51< timotei> umm...
20100726 20:34:54< shadowmaster> but 3 databases and 1 GB of storage is still too much for free
20100726 20:35:06< shadowmaster> 10 POP3 email accounts for free too
20100726 20:35:24< noy> ah, you saw it originally
20100726 20:35:25< noy> nm
20100726 20:35:32< noy> didn't get what you're doing
20100726 20:35:35< timotei> noy: :P
20100726 20:35:47< noy> why do you need esr?
20100726 20:36:07< timotei> me? I thought Valkier wanted:P
20100726 20:36:11< timotei> <Valkier> Where's ESR!
20100726 20:36:26< shadowmaster> timotei: oh, and free .co.cc domain or .cz.cc That's REALLY suspicious.
20100726 20:36:37< timotei> shadowm_laptop: I already have a free .co.cc :)
20100726 20:36:52< timotei> free subdomains are free by their definition
20100726 20:37:01< shadowmaster> timotei: hmmmmm.
20100726 20:37:04< timotei> co.cc is the domain
20100726 20:37:11< timotei> we get subdomains: timo.co.cc
20100726 20:37:22< timotei> co.nr have the same deal, but you have to put a logo on your website
20100726 20:37:24< shadowmaster> http://www.co.cc/ WUT?
20100726 20:37:28< noy> ah
20100726 20:37:37< noy> see, it would help if I read things
20100726 20:37:44< shadowmaster> timotei: there must be a trap.
20100726 20:37:46< shadowmaster> I'm sure of it.
20100726 20:37:51< timotei> trap for/with?
20100726 20:37:52< noy> or recall it more effectivelly
20100726 20:38:01< timotei> I just 'renew' my 'domain name'
20100726 20:38:08< timotei> which is about to expire in october iirc
20100726 20:38:25< shadowmaster> timotei: for the user, which is the person registering the "subdomain"
20100726 20:38:38< shadowmaster> you know, it's tempting me to get my own domain name and serve as a bait.
20100726 20:38:47< shadowmaster> "domain name"
20100726 20:39:05< timotei> I'm sorry, I don't get it:P
20100726 20:39:12< shadowmaster> although I'd rather have a paid .net domain
20100726 20:39:28< timotei> what bait its in a free domain?
20100726 20:39:35< timotei> since... no files are stored in a domain...
20100726 20:39:44< timotei> on a free webhost yeah...
20100726 20:39:44< shadowmaster> timotei: what I mean is that domain/subdomains in the internet are, by definition, expensive
20100726 20:39:53< timotei> true
20100726 20:40:17< shadowmaster> because of this whole infrastructure thing that stems from the commercialization of the Internet in the 90s
20100726 20:40:26< shadowmaster> so, if someone's offfering you a car for free, what do you think?
20100726 20:40:33< timotei> but, usually when purcashing webhosting... you get infinite subdomains :P
20100726 20:40:35< shadowmaster> a domain name is like a car.
20100726 20:40:50< timotei> I'm picking just the ... wheel for free:P
20100726 20:40:55< shadowmaster> granted, thed omain name here is "co.cc", and you get a subdomain there
20100726 20:41:07< shadowmaster> thanks to this trick of having incredibly short domain names that look like TLDs
20100726 20:41:13< timotei> yes
20100726 20:41:19< timotei> that's the point
20100726 20:41:23< timotei> I mean
20100726 20:41:30< timotei> I could used a bit.ly/my-forum :))
20100726 20:41:43< timotei> but some people are just stupid and can't remember that
20100726 20:41:52< timotei> they just know to type: www <name > .com
20100726 20:41:56< timotei> or stuff like thisX(
20100726 20:42:01< shadowmaster> except that those are URL shortening services and only serve as HTTP redirects.
20100726 20:42:09< shadowmaster> not the same thing as subdomain/domain names at all
20100726 20:42:21< timotei> well, yeah, but it's a starting poin
20100726 20:42:24< timotei> s/poin/point
20100726 20:42:26< shadowmaster> the latter are served via DNS requests, not HTTP redirects.
20100726 20:47:59< timotei> can python code be converted into a ... .deb???
20100726 20:48:06< timotei> in the way it's done with .exe ?
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20100726 21:17:41< Gambit> there's one out there that is yourchoice.domain.com
20100726 21:17:54< Gambit> aww half our old conversation is half hour old
20100726 21:18:04< Gambit> anyway shorturl is good
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20100726 22:50:43< Gambit> I'm so glad I got remote desktop figured out.
20100726 22:50:51< Gambit> Now I never have to be without my dekstop again.
20100726 22:50:58< Gambit> I just take a massive performance hit.
20100726 22:51:18< Gambit> massive as in it looks like 10fps or less
20100726 22:52:33< Gambit> Slightly better in 8 bit color
20100726 22:54:03< Gambit> I wonder if the displaying 1440x900 on 1024x768 is the issue
20100726 22:54:27< Valkier> 1440x900 is so last year.
20100726 22:54:41< Gambit> Well... that is when I bought the desktop.
20100726 22:54:45< Valkier> We're at 1900x1680 you savage.
20100726 22:55:43< Gambit> We're higher than that.
20100726 22:56:14< Valkier> Nope
20100726 22:56:36< Valkier> Hateful lies is all you speak.
20100726 22:56:49< Gambit> Well... I'm higher than that.
20100726 22:56:56< Valkier> Burn out.
20100726 22:57:03< Gambit> [insert tvtrope link for If You KNow What I mean]
20100726 22:57:48< Valkier> Don't! You're the hippopotamus!
20100726 22:57:53< Gambit> I think I'll look into issri if I'm going to have to make this a habbit
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20100726 23:01:28< Gambit> Hmmm quassel has a remote core
20100726 23:03:35< Gambit> if only it worked nicer with gnomes notification thing
20100726 23:06:16< elvish_sovereign> shadowmaster: So if I wanted to add my campaign to UMC Dev SVN, I would use svn diff as well?
20100726 23:07:13< elvish_sovereign> and if I did, would I place it in trunk or branches?
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20100726 23:32:35< Gambit> Test?
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20100726 23:35:17< Gambit> Nice. Remote core. :D
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20100726 23:43:23< Espreon> elvish_sovereign: Uh... no. Also, its placement depends for what version the addon is.
20100726 23:43:46< elvish_sovereign> okay.
20100726 23:45:12< Espreon> elvish_sovereign: Did you wish to make use of our services?
20100726 23:45:20< elvish_sovereign> yeah.
20100726 23:45:30< elvish_sovereign> since i'm slowing development for a bit.
20100726 23:45:40< elvish_sovereign> for my campaign, that is.
20100726 23:47:05< Espreon> Out of curiosity, what's the name of your campaign?
20100726 23:47:30< Gambit> "elvish_sovereign's empire builder"
20100726 23:47:40< elvish_sovereign> Espreon: Promised Land
20100726 23:47:45< Gambit> That's what I'd call it.
20100726 23:47:47< elvish_sovereign> it's on the 1.8 add-on server
20100726 23:47:53< Espreon> I see.
20100726 23:48:14< Espreon> Well, if you wish to join us, you'll have to get an SF account.
20100726 23:51:53< Gambit> eww the worlds first successful transplant of an entire face
20100726 23:52:08< Gambit> *world's
20100726 23:52:44< Espreon> Oh God!
20100726 23:56:38< elvish_sovereign> Espreon: right
20100726 23:56:43< elvish_sovereign> I have one for wesnoth
20100726 23:56:50< elvish_sovereign> no wait
20100726 23:56:52< elvish_sovereign> yes i do
20100726 23:57:03< elvish_sovereign> sourceforge, right?
20100726 23:57:06< Espreon> Yeah.
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