--- Log opened Wed Jul 28 00:00:50 2010 20100728 00:01:16< Espreon> Yay, I'll be able to get the Enigma Stone soon... 20100728 00:02:38< Espreon> Hmmmmm... note to self: use save backup/restoration features to get over nine thousand Lati@s (forgot which one is made obtainable in SoulSilver). 20100728 00:05:36< Espreon> I really should get HeartGold, so that I can get over nine thousand of each... 20100728 00:07:40< Espreon> ... and the RSE way sucks, for it is really hard to get roaming Pogeymanz with the right natures and IVs... so... yeahz... 20100728 00:08:49< Espreon> Speaking of RS, I really should find my copy of Ruby, so that my Jirachi factory doesn't become useless. 20100728 00:09:09-!- zookeeper [~l@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [] 20100728 00:12:35< Espreon> http://www.courthousenews.com/2010/07/19/Pokemon.pdf ... 20100728 00:12:45 * Espreon sees "--" within... 20100728 00:13:13< Espreon> I am disappoint. 20100728 00:18:42-!- Aethaeryn [~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100728 01:00:56-!- Blarumyrran [~Blarumyrr@unaffiliated/blarumyrran] has quit [Quit: Lahkun] 20100728 01:02:50< Gambit> This stupid laptop refused to take chrome. 20100728 01:02:56< Gambit> I'll have to kill it. 20100728 01:03:07< Valkier> How old is your laptop? 20100728 01:03:10< Gambit> Has bill gates infected my buntu's? 20100728 01:03:26< Valkier> Steve Jobs did. 20100728 01:03:28< Valkier> What now? 20100728 01:11:37< Aethaeryn> so true 20100728 01:25:46-!- Gambit [~quassel@pa-67-234-73-7.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Quit: Are you worried about your faith? Kneal down and obey. You're happy you're in love. You need someone to hate.] 20100728 01:26:11-!- Gambit [~quassel@pa-67-234-73-7.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100728 02:35:35-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy] 20100728 02:51:30< Gambit> "ghost hunter" 20100728 02:51:34< Gambit> suchs a retarded show 20100728 02:52:02< Gambit> What is up with all this "paranormal" crud gripping tv lately? 20100728 02:54:06-!- King_Elendil [~King_Elen@75.143.235.104] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100728 03:07:29< Aethaeryn> Gambit: OMFG 20100728 03:07:30< Aethaeryn> OMFG 20100728 03:07:34< Aethaeryn> IT IS A GHOST 20100728 03:07:34< Aethaeryn> OMFG 20100728 03:07:35< Aethaeryn> OMFG 20100728 03:07:39< Gambit> ... 20100728 03:07:40< Aethaeryn> I'm shivering right now 20100728 03:07:54< Aethaeryn> or maybe the heat wave ended so it's finally in the lower 70s 20100728 03:08:01< Gambit> Aethaeryn: ZOMG static on our super sensitive microphones!! 20100728 03:08:12< King_Elendil> How does an add-on know whether a unit described in a scenario is in core or in the add-on? Does the author need to specify anything or does it just figure it out? 20100728 03:08:16< Aethaeryn> Gambit: TURN UP THE VOLUME ON THE SPEAKERS PLACED RIGHT NEXT TO THE MICROPHONES 20100728 03:08:22< Aethaeryn> LET'S SEE IF WE PICK UP MORE OF IT 20100728 03:12:45< King_Elendil> hello? 20100728 03:13:04< AI0867> unit id 20100728 03:13:08< AI0867> that is all 20100728 03:13:20< King_Elendil> ok, thanks 20100728 03:13:26< Aethaeryn> Gambit: oh, right, unit id 20100728 03:13:33< Aethaeryn> Gambit: that's how we can tell they're a ghost, definitively 20100728 03:13:49< Aethaeryn> King_Elendil: right, you want to do something like "TE Rifleman" 20100728 03:13:51< AI0867> well, [unit_type] id 20100728 03:13:53< AI0867> [unit] type 20100728 03:13:59< Aethaeryn> so another era's "Rifleman" doesn't conflict 20100728 03:14:10< Aethaeryn> that's why I prefix everything with "TE ", not just the stuff that conflicts with mainline 20100728 03:14:15< Aethaeryn> it's the add-ons that don't play nice with each other 20100728 03:14:23< AI0867> everything in the Era of Strife is prefixed EoS 20100728 03:14:27< AI0867> same reason 20100728 03:18:04< Aethaeryn> yes, I believe Espreon and I were conceptualizing eras around the same time 20100728 03:18:09< Aethaeryn> that shows you how long TE takes 20100728 03:18:15< Aethaeryn> I work in spurts every few months 20100728 03:18:26< Aethaeryn> no changes for 5 months, then a ton 20100728 03:21:45-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100728 03:22:43< King_Elendil> how vague can a unit file be? I only need it so I can use it's image for a [move_unit_fake] event. 20100728 03:25:23-!- Mythological_ [Mythologic@77.28.88.232] has quit [] 20100728 03:26:55-!- King_Elendil [~King_Elen@75.143.235.104] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20100728 03:27:18-!- King_Elendil [~King_Elen@75.143.235.104] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100728 03:41:46-!- King_Elendil [~King_Elen@75.143.235.104] has quit [Quit: Got to go, I'm in a hurry so bye.] 20100728 03:42:20< Gambit> DUDE! 20100728 03:42:26< Gambit> THE FIRST OPEN SOURCE SHOE IS RELEASED! 20100728 03:42:28< Valkier> DEWD! 20100728 03:42:28< Gambit> finally! 20100728 03:44:08< Valkier> WERD! 20100728 03:44:59-!- loonycyborg [~sergey@wesnoth/developer/loonycyborg] has quit [Quit: Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz] 20100728 03:45:04< Gambit> whoa $61.20 20100728 03:45:15< Gambit> f that. I will compile it from source 20100728 03:45:31 * Gambit doesn't need it prebuilt 20100728 03:45:35-!- loonybot [~loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20100728 03:48:35-!- PetePorty [~Pete@pc-235-252-120-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100728 03:49:43-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy] 20100728 04:01:39-!- King_Elendil [~King_Elen@75.143.235.104] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100728 04:09:20< Gambit> I think the next project I want to write is a macro for tile on tile interactions and seasonal and non-seasonal weather effects. 20100728 04:09:27< Gambit> You could include it in any scenario 20100728 04:09:40< Gambit> and use [set_variables]'s literal tag to set the settings 20100728 04:10:22< Gambit> things like min and max temperature, humidity, if you want seasonal weather or not, et cetera 20100728 04:10:53< Gambit> Because then I'd feel like I at least accomplished something for dynamica this summer 20100728 04:11:03< Gambit> And maybe people will like to use it elsewhere 20100728 04:24:42-!- King_Elendil [~King_Elen@75.143.235.104] has quit [Quit: Got to go, I'm in a hurry so bye.] 20100728 04:35:29< shadowmaster> Good news, everyone! 20100728 04:35:46< shadowmaster> I am going to run Wesnoth 1.8 on Windows XP inside a VM 20100728 04:36:03< shadowmaster> and possibly DoS the VM 20100728 04:36:09-!- King_Elendil [~King_Elen@75.143.235.104] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100728 04:37:00< shadowmaster> GODDAMMIT 20100728 04:37:44< shadowmaster> No se encuentra el punto de entrada del procedimiento pango_font_map_create_context en la biblioteca de vínculos dinámicos libpango-1.0-0.dll. 20100728 04:38:06< shadowmaster> I'll kill loonycyborg. 20100728 04:40:43-!- PetePorty [~Pete@pc-235-252-120-200.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Quit: I love juice!] 20100728 04:41:02-!- King_Elendil [~King_Elen@75.143.235.104] has quit [Client Quit] 20100728 04:41:36< shadowmaster> Espreon: doesn't this suck? 20100728 04:41:59< Espreon> Yeah... 20100728 04:42:06< shadowmaster> I guess I'll take a look at the SDK zip 20100728 04:42:17< shadowmaster> the DLLs zip is from 2008 20100728 04:42:52< shadowmaster> okay, this is probably it 20100728 04:43:27< Espreon> Now to play "Star Fox 64"... 20100728 04:43:53< shadowmaster> WTF 20100728 04:43:59< Espreon> Wha? 20100728 04:44:02< shadowmaster> "incompatible request"? 20100728 04:44:42< shadowmaster> now it works 20100728 04:47:40 * Aethaeryn wonders if there's a language where Hello World is one character. 20100728 04:47:46< Aethaeryn> like, for instance, just " 20100728 04:47:48< Aethaeryn> "!" 20100728 04:47:51< Aethaeryn> just prints hello world 20100728 04:48:35< shadowmaster> http://shadowm.rewound.net/badrender.png 20100728 04:49:30< Aethaeryn> xp :o 20100728 04:49:43< Aethaeryn> with an Inicio menu :o 20100728 04:49:48< shadowmaster> your face 20100728 04:49:57< Aethaeryn> the sad thing is that I can pick out parts of Spanish 20100728 04:50:03< Aethaeryn> it looks like someone bastardized Latin 20100728 04:50:04< Aethaeryn> :o 20100728 04:50:23< Espreon> ... the Arabs... 20100728 04:50:30< Aethaeryn> yup 20100728 04:50:32< Aethaeryn> as well as time itself. 20100728 04:50:46< Aethaeryn> English was once a lot more... intelligent? 20100728 04:50:52< Aethaeryn> And I'm not talking about your obsession with Englic 20100728 04:51:06< shadowmaster> language discussions are off-topic here 20100728 04:51:08< Aethaeryn> I'm talking about before the late 1800s, there was a lot of things that you can barely read. 20100728 04:51:11< Aethaeryn> :/ 20100728 04:51:38 * Espreon rolls his eyes 20100728 04:56:58< Aethaeryn> Espreon: it's okay, #Wesnoth-la can be home for linguism. 20100728 04:57:18-!- mode/#wesnoth-umc-dev [+o shadowmaster] by ChanServ 20100728 04:58:00-!- shadowmaster changed the topic of #wesnoth-umc-dev to: Linguistics are off-topic here, go to ##linguistics | Wesnoth-UMC-Dev Project discussion and support channel | http://wesnoth-umc-dev.ai0867.net | Staff: AI0867, Espreon, shadowmaster | Project @ SF.net: http://tinyurl.com/umcdev | IRC logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org, http://irclogs.ai0867.net 20100728 04:58:22<@shadowmaster> ##linguistics awaits too. 20100728 04:58:33-!- mode/#wesnoth-umc-dev [-o shadowmaster] by shadowmaster 20100728 04:58:39< Espreon> No... 20100728 04:58:55 * Aethaeryn sighs 20100728 04:58:57< shadowmaster> no what? 20100728 04:59:02 * Espreon wonders if a PS3 controller would work with this... 20100728 04:59:14 * Espreon 's too lazy to hunt down an Adaptoid. 20100728 05:02:07-!- King_Elendil [~King_Elen@75.143.235.104] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100728 05:03:07-!- King_Elendil_ [~King_Elen@75.143.235.104] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100728 05:03:07-!- King_Elendil [~King_Elen@75.143.235.104] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20100728 05:03:10-!- King_Elendil_ is now known as King_Elendil 20100728 05:03:24< shadowmaster> http://www.flickr.com/photos/notratched/2590959112/in/pool-badsign 20100728 05:03:29< shadowmaster> found this from tv tropes 20100728 05:09:57< Espreon> Ugh... Wednesday's coming up... 20100728 05:10:05 * Espreon hates Wednesdays... 20100728 05:10:09< Valkier> Did you remember to bring your coat? 20100728 05:10:29 * Valkier lives in a giant bucket 20100728 05:12:12< Gambit> I love wednesdays! 20100728 05:12:15< Gambit> Zero Punctuation 20100728 05:12:18< Gambit> I used to hate them too 20100728 05:12:21< Valkier> eww 20100728 05:12:21< Gambit> before I found ZP 20100728 05:12:28< Gambit> also ENN 20100728 05:12:30< Gambit> and movie bob 20100728 05:13:00< Gambit> Espreon: Just visit the escapist on wednesdays 20100728 05:13:04< Gambit> it will make them much more better 20100728 05:29:17-!- Gambit [~quassel@pa-67-234-73-7.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Quit: An ordinary girl. An ordinary waist. But ordinary's just not good enough today.] 20100728 05:35:05-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100728 05:37:35< shadowmaster> Aethaeryn: funny that you link esr's howto. 20100728 05:37:41< shadowmaster> "Finally, a few things not to do. 20100728 05:37:41< shadowmaster> * 20100728 05:37:43< shadowmaster> Don't use a silly, grandiose user ID or screen name. " 20100728 05:37:52< shadowmaster> :P 20100728 05:38:21< esr> Yes, *Shadowmaster*....do tell, *Shadowmaster*. 20100728 05:38:25< esr> :-) 20100728 05:39:10< Aethaeryn> yup 20100728 05:39:15< shadowmaster> I'm Bond. Ignacio Bond. 20100728 05:39:26< Aethaeryn> well, I put my name on credits and stuff 20100728 05:39:33< shadowmaster> somehow "Riquelme Morelle" doesn't fit the line. 20100728 05:39:54< Aethaeryn> it's just that on IRC and stuff, "michael" is too common and anything with "babich" in it seems *way* too professional in tone 20100728 05:39:57< shadowmaster> neither family name fits 20100728 05:39:59< Aethaeryn> considering what I do 90% of the time on IRC 20100728 05:40:11< shadowmaster> Aethaeryn: babich sounds arab or something 20100728 05:41:19< shadowmaster> and I can't find any relevant Google results 20100728 05:41:52< shadowmaster> on the other hand, searching for "ignacio riquelme morelle" does get relevant results 20100728 05:42:05< shadowmaster> 3rd being from my website. 20100728 05:42:13< shadowmaster> That needs to be fixed, it needs to be the 1st. 20100728 05:43:04< shadowmaster> wtf does google index my irssi scripts? 20100728 05:43:07< Aethaeryn> shadowmaster: Babich is common in Croatia, but my dad's ancestors are from modern-day eastern Slovakia. 20100728 05:43:17< shadowmaster> I didn't know it indexed script files 20100728 05:44:52< Aethaeryn> shadowmaster: there are two kinds of last names in America. Those that don't make sense and those that are from Great Britain. The ones that don't make sense are more common, and over time more of the latter become the former too. 20100728 05:45:02< shadowmaster> I found an acient IftU changelog in middle of the search results for my name too 20100728 05:45:12< shadowmaster> Author: Shadow Master (Ignacio Riquelme Morelle) 20100728 05:45:13< shadowmaster> Version 0.2.71 (0.3.0 beta2): 20100728 05:45:32< Valkier> http://forums.wesnoth.org/download/file.php?id=43720&mode=view 20100728 05:45:57< Aethaeryn> http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp&q=michael+babich 20100728 05:46:04< Aethaeryn> Apparently, I'm running for Congress in California. 20100728 05:46:27< shadowmaster> Valkier: does he tap-dance? 20100728 05:46:35< Aethaeryn> And I'm both a PhD and an MD 20100728 05:46:36< Valkier> He could! 20100728 05:47:02< Aethaeryn> A Colonel (and politician), a PhD, and an MD are the first page results for my name 20100728 05:47:13< Aethaeryn> I have big shoes to fill. 20100728 05:47:42< Aethaeryn> and apparently those three are most of the results 20100728 05:47:46< Aethaeryn> unless there's multiple MDs 20100728 05:48:31< Aethaeryn> esr: are you against anonymity, though? 20100728 05:48:53< Aethaeryn> I'm just curious where you'd draw the line about not using ridiculous handles. 20100728 05:49:03< shadowmaster> Don't get me started again. 20100728 05:49:17< shadowmaster> The ridiculous story of my username is long. 20100728 05:49:19< Aethaeryn> Yes, often when someone won't give their full name it's because they're doing something illegal, but depending on where they are in the world, that's their only way out of prison 20100728 05:49:19< shadowmaster> and ridiculous. 20100728 05:49:40< shadowmaster> that's ... wrong in so many levels. 20100728 05:49:45< shadowmaster> what about IPs? 20100728 05:50:30< shadowmaster> apparently there are more advanced ways to locate people through the Internet provided you can tap on the ISPs' infrastructure with a court's order 20100728 05:50:48< shadowmaster> so it'd be silly to use usernames as a way to achieve "anonymity" 20100728 05:50:53< Aethaeryn> well 20100728 05:50:54< Aethaeryn> yes 20100728 05:50:55< shadowmaster> anonimity, anonnimity 20100728 05:51:00< shadowmaster> however it's spelt. 20100728 05:51:04< Espreon> Well, searching for "Steven Panek" gets you my Gna profile as the seventh link. 20100728 05:51:07< Aethaeryn> but if you're using tor to protest a government, it would also be silly to use your full name as your user name. 20100728 05:51:15< Aethaeryn> both are necessary 20100728 05:51:59< shadowmaster> if I were to, say, submit a patch to the qemu mailing list (which I intend to do as soon as I get enough motivation to fix some misfeature), I'd indeed use my real name. 20100728 05:52:19< shadowmaster> regardless of that stupid...email address... 20100728 05:52:40< shadowmaster> I wish Google had a way to transfer all of my profile and stuff to a new email address and convert the old one into a redirect. 20100728 05:54:16< shadowmaster> alternatively I could use my university address once it gets transferred to the gmail platform 20100728 05:54:20< shadowmaster> it hasn't been transferred yet for some reason. hm. 20100728 05:55:44< shadowmaster> "Por esto, se optó por un sistema de migración incremental, lo que significa que durante el primer semestre de este año se irán traspasando las casillas de los usuarios paulatinamente (todos los días se migrará una cantidad)." 20100728 05:55:53< shadowmaster> the first half of 20010 is over already. 20100728 05:55:53< shadowmaster> dammit. 20100728 05:56:13< shadowmaster> whining will continue until my account gets migrated. 20100728 06:00:10< Valkier> shadowmaster: I will eat you. 20100728 06:05:36<+CIA-38> wesnoth-umc-dev: kingelendil * r7501 /branches/1.8/The_White_Lich/ (8 files in 5 dirs): TWL: Did some major bug-fixing in 01_Strange_Greetings.cfg and added misc. files incorporated into the scenario. 20100728 06:12:20< Espreon> I really hate this thing... 20100728 06:13:12-!- King_Elendil [~King_Elen@75.143.235.104] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20100728 06:14:45<+CIA-38> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7502 /branches/1.8/The_White_Lich/ (5 files in 5 dirs): TWL: ran umcpropfix. 20100728 06:15:04-!- King_Elendil [~King_Elen@75.143.235.104] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100728 06:18:24-!- King_Elendil [~King_Elen@75.143.235.104] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20100728 06:19:38-!- King_Elendil [~King_Elen@75.143.235.104] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100728 06:24:32-!- King_Elendil [~King_Elen@75.143.235.104] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20100728 06:24:59-!- King_Elendil [~King_Elen@75.143.235.104] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100728 06:28:15-!- King_Elendil_ [~King_Elen@75.143.235.104] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100728 06:28:15-!- King_Elendil [~King_Elen@75.143.235.104] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20100728 06:28:18-!- King_Elendil_ is now known as King_Elendil 20100728 06:36:29<+CIA-38> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7503 /branches/1.8/The_White_Lich/scenarios/01_Strange_Greetings.cfg: TWL: smote some weirdness... 20100728 06:36:54< Espreon> Yeah, I'm not running "eix-sync" again until KDE 4.5 comes out... 20100728 06:41:24-!- King_Elendil [~King_Elen@75.143.235.104] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20100728 06:41:34-!- King_Elendil [~King_Elen@75.143.235.104] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100728 06:42:23< Espreon> This is weird... 20100728 06:42:56< Espreon> My OpenGL performance shifts depending on which room I am... 20100728 06:43:07-!- King_Elendil [~King_Elen@75.143.235.104] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20100728 06:43:26< Espreon> No, no... 20100728 06:43:30< Espreon> Hmmmm... 20100728 06:43:35< Espreon> Ugh... 20100728 06:43:42-!- King_Elendil [~King_Elen@75.143.235.104] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100728 06:44:48-!- King_Elendil [~King_Elen@75.143.235.104] has quit [Client Quit] 20100728 06:45:54< Espreon> OK, things are fine in the living room. 20100728 06:46:37< Espreon> OK, if the LOL ghosts are doing this, then they gotta go! This is mah OpenGL performance, damn it! 20100728 06:47:28< Espreon> shadowmaster: Apparently, they take residence here... OK... fine... but if one fucks with my OpenGL performance, then he's gotta go! 20100728 06:50:02< shadowmaster> Riveting tale, chap. 20100728 06:50:17< Espreon> ... 20100728 06:50:39< Espreon> I'm serious, my OpenGL performance shifts depending on which room I am... or that's what it seems... 20100728 06:51:18< Espreon> Till awhile ago, my room was fine... but no... 20100728 06:51:41< Espreon> ... 20100728 06:51:43< Espreon> Hmmmm... 20100728 06:52:00< Espreon> Either the spirits moved into this room or it had something to do with my AC adaptor... 20100728 06:52:06< shadowmaster> cool story bro. 20100728 06:52:11< Espreon> ... and the power mangement policies changing. 20100728 06:52:17< shadowmaster> it could have something to do with the adaptor 20100728 06:52:42< shadowmaster> I'm not completely sure how these Radeons' power management works, particularly under Linux 20100728 06:53:09< Espreon> OK, disconnected... and we're fine. 20100728 06:53:23< shadowmaster> I for one don't perceive any difference here when running on batteries unless I change the cpufreq governor to, say, powersave 20100728 06:53:51< Espreon> ... reconnected... and we're not... 20100728 06:53:56< shadowmaster> well, KDE does that for me, but sometimes it doesn't work, if the power source change occurs while the system is suspended to disk or RAM 20100728 06:54:49< Espreon> OK, it seems to be the adaptor. 20100728 06:54:54< Espreon> ... but.... this is bullshit. 20100728 06:55:16< Espreon> I shouldn't have to be running on battery power to get optimal OpenGL performance. 20100728 06:56:46< Espreon> Now, why the fuck is this happening? 20100728 06:57:45< Espreon> I guess that we got a crappy AC adaptor... 20100728 06:57:55< Espreon> ... after all, this is a no-name generic... 20100728 06:59:00< Espreon> Hmmmmm... since this might be what's causing my "problems" with KMS becoming crappy... 20100728 06:59:08< Espreon> Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... 20100728 06:59:56-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy] 20100728 07:01:22< shadowmaster> what the hell 20100728 07:01:31< shadowmaster> hm 20100728 07:01:41< shadowmaster> I need a more accurate benchmark here 20100728 07:02:58< shadowmaster> Espreon: okay, it seems to behave correctly here. 20100728 07:03:06< Valkier> http://forums.wesnoth.org/download/file.php?id=43722 20100728 07:03:12< shadowmaster> although the performance difference is neglible 20100728 07:03:15< shadowmaster> although the performance difference is negligible 20100728 07:03:23< shadowmaster> it's still faster on AC 20100728 07:07:13< Espreon> Hopefully, I can fix this bullshit... 20100728 07:14:23< Espreon> Now to try gallium again for the lulz. 20100728 07:28:34-!- Aethaeryn [~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has quit [Quit: ...] 20100728 07:33:13< Espreon> ... and of course, it still sucks. 20100728 07:35:27< Espreon> IDK how the fuck I'm suppose to enjoy this machine if the battery won't last that long and OpenGL gets slower when I plug in the AC adaptor. 20100728 07:35:31< Espreon> Meh... 20100728 07:36:22< shadowmaster> I have discovered the holiest trope of all 20100728 07:36:27< Espreon> What? 20100728 07:37:35<+shikadibot> shadowmaster: Riveting tale, chap. 20100728 07:37:35< Espreon> OK, still, fuck KMS till Wesnoth can behave normally without a compositing window manager. 20100728 07:37:45< shadowmaster> shikadibot: NO U 20100728 07:37:45 * shikadibot is offended 20100728 07:39:25< Espreon> OK, I remember that OpenGL performance suffers after this thing has been running for a while, especially after compiling stuff... and when I tried KMS again and was planning to stay with it... I had the AC adaptor.... 20100728 07:39:29< Espreon> Blargh! 20100728 07:39:35< Espreon> This just sucks... 20100728 07:39:57< shadowmaster> " that OpenGL performance suffers after this thing has been running for a while" 20100728 07:40:01< shadowmaster> that doesn't sound normal. 20100728 07:40:16< shadowmaster> do you ever check how much memory is free, btw? 20100728 07:40:35< Espreon> Only about three hundred MB is being used. 20100728 07:40:38< shadowmaster> or visit top/kde's system monitor/whatever from time to time? 20100728 07:40:46< shadowmaster> hm- 20100728 07:42:05< Espreon> Once the behavior sets in, it stays till I turn it off for a while. 20100728 07:42:19< Espreon> ... regardless of things such as memory usage. 20100728 07:42:41< Espreon> *turn the laptop 20100728 07:43:00< shadowmaster> hm 20100728 07:43:15< shadowmaster> that sounds like your GPU/CPU is suffering from overheating. 20100728 07:43:20< shadowmaster> or some other physical anomaly 20100728 07:43:40< Espreon> I wouldn't be surprised. 20100728 07:44:21< Espreon> Of course, only OpenGL is affected by this shit. 20100728 07:44:29< Espreon> ... well... 20100728 07:44:44< Espreon> I can only notice things there... yeahz... 20100728 07:45:02< shadowmaster> that's what should strain the GPU more. 20100728 07:45:04< shadowmaster> more than anything else. 20100728 07:45:22< Espreon> Bah, I hate this thing. 20100728 07:45:42< shadowmaster> I suggest to be careful when testing it, lest you set it on fire with KMS. 20100728 07:46:03< shadowmaster> or suffer from some epileptic seizure-inducing scenario such as mine 20100728 07:46:04 * Espreon rolls his eyes 20100728 07:46:14< shadowmaster> I'm being serious 20100728 07:46:18< Espreon> KMS, UMS... it matters not. 20100728 07:46:33< Espreon> ... this thing sucks... 20100728 07:47:57< Espreon> Since this pisses me off so much, I'm gonna have to bring a wooden table to my bed and take every precaution possible... I WANT... TO USE... MAH SYSTEM! 20100728 07:52:05< Espreon> Yeah, this is pissing me off too much... 20100728 07:52:09< Espreon> Goodnight. 20100728 08:08:09-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100728 08:42:23-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20100728 08:48:01-!- zookeeper [~l@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100728 08:59:24-!- thespaceinvader [~chatzilla@wesnoth/artist/thespaceinvader] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100728 09:01:20-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100728 09:04:16-!- shadowm_laptop2 [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100728 09:06:05-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Disconnected by services] 20100728 09:06:16-!- shadowm_laptop2 is now known as shadowm_laptop 20100728 09:08:58< shadowmaster> gender. 20100728 09:09:10< shadowmaster> we could have a gender profile field in the forums. 20100728 09:09:20< shadowmaster> I think I also want to eat salmon. 20100728 09:22:28< zookeeper> how can one have a thread for a new era for two days without any replies? 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20100728 17:39:38-!- Daravel [~h_i_s_s@81.154.233.240] has quit [Client Quit] 20100728 17:47:05< Blarumyrran> I know a bit about windows 20100728 17:48:11< Blarumyrran> I once asked on #windows about what are the (usually 4-sided) stones on top of windows called (on those old, classicistic windows) 20100728 17:48:29< Blarumyrran> And they said, "keystones". Now I'm a windows expert 20100728 17:50:47< timotei> Gambit, Blarumyrran up to a BG map?:P 20100728 17:51:00< Gambit> Can't. 20100728 17:51:04< timotei> ok;) 20100728 17:51:09< Gambit> Expecting an important phone call any time now 20100728 17:51:19< timotei> no problem:D 20100728 18:11:05-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100728 18:17:12< Gambit> :\ still no call 20100728 18:17:18< Gambit> I could have played BG afterall by now 20100728 18:19:04-!- elvish_sovereign [~elvish_so@pool-173-59-65-48.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100728 18:26:03< timotei> :)) 20100728 18:26:04< timotei> yeah 20100728 18:26:10< timotei> if you find players tell me oK? 20100728 18:33:23< Gambit> there it is 20100728 19:16:53-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-99-185-9-168.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100728 19:36:40-!- Gambit is now known as Gambit|Test 20100728 19:36:44-!- Gambit|Test is now known as Gambit 20100728 19:39:52-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100728 19:45:03< timotei> Gambit: ok, free now?:D 20100728 19:45:06< timotei> hey shadowmaster :P 20100728 19:45:13< Gambit> timotei: yes 20100728 19:45:17< timotei> shadowmaster: I just saw your message regarding the hosting :D 20100728 19:45:22< timotei> Gambit: shall we play? 20100728 19:45:36< Gambit> actually... 20100728 19:45:39< Gambit> I should eat lunch XD 20100728 19:45:46< timotei> ok, after that?:) 20100728 19:45:49< Gambit> yes 20100728 19:45:52< timotei> ok 20100728 19:45:55< timotei> ;) 20100728 19:45:58< timotei> good eating.. 20100728 19:46:12< timotei> Or... I don't know how you say this in english:D 20100728 19:46:14< timotei> bon appetite 20100728 19:46:28< timotei> Good apetite:P 20100728 19:46:40< shadowmaster> timotei: what hosting? 20100728 19:46:49< timotei> ummm 20100728 19:46:53< timotei> The free one. 20100728 19:47:01< shadowmaster> what did I say about it? 20100728 19:47:03< shadowmaster> ah, twitter. 20100728 19:47:04< timotei> 20100727 06:30:48< shadowmaster> dammit, timotei's got me stuck with this free fake-domains thing 20100728 19:47:04< timotei> :)) 20100728 19:47:32< shadowmaster> well, you missed this via twitter. 20100728 19:47:35< shadowmaster> "I checked 1 free DNS provider's website, whois info and everything suggests it's a scam. I don't want my info sold to 3rd parties so meh." 20100728 19:47:58< timotei> oh:P 20100728 19:47:59< shadowmaster> although that was a UK-based "provider" 20100728 19:48:13< timotei> well.. I'm already using it for about ... 1 years.. 20100728 19:48:15< timotei> 1 year 20100728 19:56:25< shadowmaster> Gambit: "funny" wasn't the point of my post with the comic link 20100728 19:57:01< Gambit> shadowmaster: I was being critical of the comic itself (and its author) 20100728 19:57:03< Gambit> not your use of it 20100728 19:57:12< shadowmaster> Gambit: irrelevant to the thread at hand 20100728 19:57:16< Gambit> (there's a reason I follow xkcdsucks on twitter) 20100728 19:57:34< shadowmaster> also 20100728 19:57:34< shadowmaster> Trade Expert
20100728 19:57:38< shadowmaster> it's not alt-text 20100728 19:57:41< shadowmaster> it's title-text 20100728 19:57:43< Gambit> shadowmaster: It's off topic. You started a tangent. 20100728 19:57:54< shadowmaster> Gambit: who's the moderator, you or me? 20100728 19:58:01< Gambit> shadowmaster: Randall calls it alt text, so do we xkcdsucksians. 20100728 19:58:31< shadowmaster> I await an answer. 20100728 19:58:41< Gambit> sigh 20100728 19:58:45< Gambit> You of course. 20100728 19:59:39< shadowmaster> I'm waiting to see how the thread evolves into a showcase of Dragonchampion's naïvete 20100728 19:59:46< Gambit> My nitpicking half says "technically neither" My suck uppy part follows that up with "you're even better than a moderator!". 20100728 19:59:54< shadowmaster> naïvety 20100728 19:59:56< Gambit> Oh so I ruined your science experiment? 20100728 20:00:02< shadowmaster> Gambit: exactly. 20100728 20:00:08< shadowmaster> that's why I'm not amused. 20100728 20:00:29< Gambit> Actually... 20100728 20:00:30< shadowmaster> otherwise, I agree that the comic wasn't funny and that xkcd hasn't had a geninously funny comic for a long time 20100728 20:00:34< Gambit> I'm the moderator. :awesomeface: 20100728 20:00:38< Gambit> You're the admin! 20100728 20:00:40< Gambit> xD 20100728 20:00:47< shadowmaster> except for this 20100728 20:00:48< shadowmaster> http://xkcd.com/673/ 20100728 20:01:01< timotei> shadowmaster: define: nitpicking 20100728 20:01:04< Gambit> Yeah that one was okay. 20100728 20:01:07< timotei> shadowmaster: please:P 20100728 20:01:15< timotei> damn, actually Gambit ^ 20100728 20:01:42< Gambit> timotei: Picking apart silly things such as word uses and terminology even though the speakers intent was crystal clear to you. 20100728 20:01:55< timotei> ohh:D 20100728 20:01:55< Gambit> Except in such cases when you *must* clarify to cover your own ass. 20100728 20:01:58< timotei> ok 20100728 20:02:03< Gambit> (such as legal issues) 20100728 20:04:27< Gambit> [See: Zarel] 20100728 20:05:47< timotei> aha 20100728 20:07:43< shadowmaster> thespaceinvader: shame on you for not banning Mr. Spambot. 20100728 20:09:01< Blarumyrran> http://xkcd.com/703/ was good 20100728 20:09:44< Blarumyrran> At least the mouse-over text 20100728 20:09:55< shadowmaster> a simple google search confirms that it registered in multiple places today 20100728 20:10:21< shadowmaster> with the same signature. 20100728 20:12:42< timotei> that's so lol because is lol 20100728 20:13:42< shadowmaster> lol isn't an adjective 20100728 20:13:49< shadowmaster> :( 20100728 20:13:56< shadowmaster> wait 20100728 20:13:57-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-99-185-9-168.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Blueblaze] 20100728 20:14:05< shadowmaster> linguistics are off-topic here 20100728 20:14:07< shadowmaster> oops 20100728 20:14:11< timotei> :P 20100728 20:22:17< shadowmaster> Gambit: http://thecrumb.com/2008/08/06/google-insight-coldfusion-not-so-hot/ 20100728 20:22:43< shadowmaster> also http://www.google.com/insights/search/#q=ColdFusion&cmpt=q 20100728 20:23:14< shadowmaster> yes, despite that article was written in 2008, the trend is stil ongoing 20100728 20:24:32 * shadowmaster sips coffee 20100728 20:24:44< shadowmaster> in other news, I'm goiing to write a blog post detailing why WML is good and bad 20100728 20:26:30< timotei> shadowmaster: please pm me with a ping when it's ready:) 20100728 20:33:23-!- lizard_r [~Rolf@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/lizard] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100728 20:50:28< Gambit> sigh 20100728 20:50:34< Gambit> eating lunch at 3:00 pm 20100728 20:50:46< Gambit> the rest of my family needs to get the heck out of bed earlier 20100728 20:51:03< shadowmaster> you crybaby 20100728 20:51:13< shadowmaster> here we eat lunch at 8:00 pm or later. 20100728 20:51:32< shadowmaster> sometimes I don't even have lunch or breakfast 20100728 20:52:15< Gambit> err 20100728 20:52:20< Gambit> isn't that interest a percentage? 20100728 20:52:36< Gambit> so as the number of google users searching for celeberty bs goes up... 20100728 20:52:48< Gambit> (why does india love coldfusion so much?) 20100728 20:53:31< shadowmaster> http://www.google.com/support/insights//bin/answer.py?hl=en-US&answer=87285 20100728 20:53:33< Gambit> shadowmaster: When your blog post is done you should send timotei a PM containing only an enoch timestamp :D 20100728 20:54:19< timotei> shadowmaster: why don't you have lunch/breakfast?:( 20100728 20:54:23< shadowmaster> Gambit: fool. 20100728 20:54:23< timotei> Gambit: what is that?:P 20100728 20:54:27< timotei> Gambit: let's play 20100728 20:54:28< Gambit> shadowmaster: So... yeah 20100728 20:54:29< shadowmaster> I'll just post a URL. 20100728 20:54:42< Gambit> it's comparative to total google searches 20100728 20:54:44< Gambit> fail 20100728 20:55:01< Gambit> timotei: okay 20100728 20:55:41< timotei> Gambit: um... lunch isn't to be eaten between 12 AM and 4 PM?:P 20100728 20:55:43< Gambit> timotei: you're aware that every so often you get a message from the IRC server saying "ping" and then a timestamp 20100728 20:56:00< timotei> I'm not aware 20100728 20:56:02< Gambit> actually the server doesn't send a timestamp 20100728 20:56:03< Gambit> anyway 20100728 20:56:10< shadowmaster> Gambit: no, not fail. 20100728 20:56:11< Gambit> you have so long to reply with "pong" before it disconnects you 20100728 20:56:21< Gambit> or rather assumes you disconnected 20100728 20:56:26< shadowmaster> you are just afraid to admit that CF isn't as popular as you want it to be. 20100728 20:56:39< Gambit> shadowmaster: google is being used increasingly 20100728 20:56:43< timotei> shadowmaster: would you come and play some?:D) 20100728 20:56:49< Gambit> those statistics make sense as the pie chart gets more and more topics 20100728 20:56:51< timotei> shadowmaster: Gambit's map is so cool 20100728 20:57:06< timotei> shadowmaster: I can't belive an 'unkown' map and game give me so much dependecy:( 20100728 20:57:17< timotei> (at least Gambit can keep me... away of it:P) 20100728 20:57:18< shadowmaster> timotei: nah, I'm going afk soon 20100728 20:57:19< Gambit> shadowmaster: oh look http://www.google.com/insights/search/#q=PHP&cmpt=q 20100728 20:57:24< timotei> ok 20100728 20:57:35< Gambit> shadowmaster: oh look http://www.google.com/insights/search/#q=Perl&cmpt=q 20100728 20:57:35< shadowmaster> Gambit: who said that I cared about PHP's popularity? 20100728 20:57:45-!- mode/#wesnoth-umc-dev [+q *!*@pa-67-234-73-7.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] by ChanServ 20100728 20:58:21< shadowmaster> I don't care about the poularity of the programming languages I use. 20100728 20:58:47< timotei> hehe 20100728 20:58:47< timotei> http://www.google.com/insights/search/#q=C%23&cmpt=q 20100728 20:58:49< shadowmaster> I only care about their usefulness and ease of use, implementation and distribution 20100728 20:58:50< timotei> C# rules:> 20100728 20:59:04< shadowmaster> and their learning curve 20100728 20:59:04< timotei> shadowmaster: did you try C#? 20100728 20:59:10< shadowmaster> which is the main reason I prefer Perl to Python 20100728 20:59:16< shadowmaster> timotei: I learned C# before C and C++ 20100728 20:59:19< timotei> :D 20100728 20:59:25< timotei> me too :)) 20100728 21:00:36-!- mode/#wesnoth-umc-dev [-q *!*@pa-67-234-73-7.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] by ChanServ 20100728 21:00:57< shadowmaster> IMO C# is a better language for beginners than C or C++ 20100728 21:01:06< timotei> right... somewhat true 20100728 21:01:13< shadowmaster> so I can't understand why this university uses Java for that purpose, and C# in the "Advanced Programming" course 20100728 21:01:25< shadowmaster> for me C# > Java 20100728 21:01:26-!- Blarumyrran [~Blarumyrr@unaffiliated/blarumyrran] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20100728 21:01:27< timotei> no offense but java has some stupid practises 20100728 21:01:32< timotei> catch them all 20100728 21:01:34< timotei> I hate that 20100728 21:01:36< timotei> but whatever 20100728 21:01:45< shadowmaster> now, I haven't used C# in a long time so I'd not be able to write a C# program if I was asked to now, probably 20100728 21:01:45< timotei> shadowmaster: why don't the forums use prosilver?:| 20100728 21:01:53< timotei> but that stupid subsilver 20100728 21:02:01< shadowmaster> timotei: you can choose prosilver in your user control panel 20100728 21:02:21< shadowmaster> why don't they use it as a default: no friggin' idea. 20100728 21:02:27< timotei> yey 20100728 21:02:34< timotei> they could modify it 20100728 21:02:38< timotei> and it would be better 20100728 21:02:42< shadowmaster> apparently some people are too associated with subsilver2's brokennes. 20100728 21:02:57 * timotei whispers: like who? 20100728 21:03:06< shadowmaster> Ivanovic, mordante, etc. 20100728 21:03:10< timotei> oh 20100728 21:03:18< Gambit> timotei: 3/4 20100728 21:03:23< timotei> lol 20100728 21:03:39< shadowmaster> I'm tempted to change the default but first I want to apply a patch to change prosilver's user profile areas in viewtopic to the left so it doesn't look too different to subsilver2 20100728 21:03:46< shadowmaster> I personally prefer them in the left. 20100728 21:03:50< timotei> oh right 20100728 21:03:52< Gambit> don't take away the default template :'( 20100728 21:03:54< shadowmaster> s/in/at/ 20100728 21:03:59< Gambit> I am also associated with its brokenness 20100728 21:04:07< timotei> yeah, it's faster to look in the left 20100728 21:04:51< shadowmaster> that's natural for us western/central europe types who are used to languages that are written left-to-right 20100728 21:04:51< Gambit> shadowmaster: Because we're western. 20100728 21:04:59< timotei> oh 20100728 21:05:05< timotei> didn't thought of that 20100728 21:05:20< shadowmaster> where the Americas are part of "western europe" for the purpose of the statement above. 20100728 21:05:21< timotei> ok Gambit, create the game?:D 20100728 21:05:26< Gambit> timotei: When we read our eyes start instantly left so that's where the important info must be 20100728 21:05:35< timotei> avatar is not important:)) 20100728 21:05:37< Gambit> timotei: hold on 20100728 21:05:38< shadowmaster> http://shadowm.rewound.net/forum_style_figures.png 20100728 21:05:41< Gambit> timotei: name is 20100728 21:05:54< timotei> oh yeah 20100728 21:05:59< Gambit> shadowmaster: lol 20100728 21:06:00< timotei> shadowmaster: why not kill the bots?:| 20100728 21:06:02< shadowmaster> actually, for me the avatar *is* important for people who do use one 20100728 21:06:04< timotei> I hate them 20100728 21:06:18< timotei> well. yeah, if the nickname is small written 20100728 21:06:30< shadowmaster> timotei: the bots are search engine crawlers 20100728 21:06:34< Gambit> Which is why we all flipped out on that avatar copy cat. 20100728 21:06:39< shadowmaster> if I banned them we'd not havve forum topics in Google results :( 20100728 21:06:51< Gambit> You can make them not show though. 20100728 21:06:52< timotei> oh, right 20100728 21:06:56< timotei> yeah 20100728 21:07:09< Gambit> Isn't there a ticker for "do not show on who is online" 20100728 21:07:32< shadowmaster> no, there's no ticker for that. 20100728 21:07:40< shadowmaster> there's a mod, but I don't see the need to hide them 20100728 21:07:55< shadowmaster> I like to see the W3C validator in that list when I'm checking styles for brokenness, for instance. 20100728 21:08:14< Gambit> shadowmaster: whoa look at this one 20100728 21:08:15< Gambit> http://www.google.com/insights/search/#q=CFML&cmpt=q 20100728 21:08:23< Gambit> Why the heck do Indians love coldfusion? 20100728 21:08:36< timotei> Indiands love everything 20100728 21:08:39< Gambit> http://www.google.com/insights/search/#q=CFML&cmpt=q&geo=IN 20100728 21:08:46< shadowmaster> maybe some India companies use CF a lot 20100728 21:08:46< Gambit> people from the very tip of india 20100728 21:08:59< Gambit> http://www.google.com/insights/search/#geo=IN-TN&q=CFML&cmpt=q 20100728 21:09:01< timotei> ok Gamb. game name?:D 20100728 21:09:04< Gambit> people from a particular city in india 20100728 21:09:05< Gambit> wtf? 20100728 21:09:06< shadowmaster> I suppose that Chilean websites tend to use Microsoft's shit more than anything else 20100728 21:09:11< shadowmaster> ASP, etc. 20100728 21:09:12< Gambit> look at link 3 20100728 21:09:15< Gambit> it's one city! 20100728 21:09:19< Gambit> something is clearly wrong 20100728 21:09:35< Gambit> that one city searches "CFML" more often than the rest of the world combined 20100728 21:09:49< timotei> hehe 20100728 21:09:51< Gambit> Adobe probably has some bot hosted there 20100728 21:09:54< Gambit> to search for coldfusion things 20100728 21:09:56< timotei> hyperlinking maps from editor works:D 20100728 21:09:59< Gambit> to boost their indexing 20100728 21:10:10< Gambit> timotei: okay going to go look for another player in the lobby 20100728 21:11:18< timotei> ok 20100728 21:46:00< shadowmaster> 15:20:46 installing phpbb3 is so unbelievably easy 20100728 21:46:01< shadowmaster> 15:21:26 yup 20100728 21:46:01< shadowmaster> 15:22:11 Takes maybe 3 minutes from uploading the files. 20100728 21:46:05< shadowmaster> QFT 20100728 21:46:30< shadowmaster> I remember being lazy about setting up a test forum on my laptop...damn, was I wrong about that. 20100728 21:47:04< shadowmaster> I wouldn't have screwed up that Feb. if I had really done that first. 20100728 21:56:48-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-99-185-9-168.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100728 22:04:38-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-99-185-9-168.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20100728 22:28:48-!- timotei [~timotei@wesnoth/developer/timotei] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20100728 22:32:45-!- Valkier [~IceChat7@c-174-55-104-2.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100728 22:43:27-!- Blarumyrran [~Blarumyrr@unaffiliated/blarumyrran] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100728 23:29:39-!- zookeeper [~l@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [] 20100728 23:32:58< shadowm_laptop> http://shadowm.rewound.net/blog/archives/83-Why-the-Wesnoth-Markup-Language-is-bad-for-you.html 20100728 23:36:36-!- King_Elendil [~King_Elen@75.143.235.104] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20100728 23:39:21-!- thespaceinvader [~chatzilla@wesnoth/artist/thespaceinvader] has quit [Quit: night all] 20100728 23:43:41< Blarumyrran> (More specifically, around 80% of Wesnoth is a steaming pile of shit.) :o :o 20100728 23:43:51< Valkier> ...? 20100728 23:44:09< Blarumyrran> That's not very patriotic 20100728 23:44:18< shadowmaster> and what? 20100728 23:44:30< shadowmaster> esr would agree. 20100728 23:44:34< King_Elendil> that makes me part of a minority :p 20100728 23:44:41< shadowmaster> but he'd blame the programming language . 20100728 23:44:50< shadowmaster> I blame the development practices and design. 20100728 23:45:02< shadowmaster> just fgrep for FIXMEs and TODOs and you'll see what I mean with development practices ;( 20100728 23:46:44< esr> What am I supposed to be agreeing with? 20100728 23:46:57< shadowmaster> 7:43:41 (More specifically, around 80% of Wesnoth is a steaming pile of shit.) :o :o 20100728 23:47:00< shadowmaster> esr: that 20100728 23:47:32< esr> Wekll, the C++ codebase is a mess. But the overall design is pretty good. 20100728 23:47:33< shadowmaster> and don't say no because you have gone on lengthy rants about it in -dev before :P 20100728 23:47:40< shadowmaster> no, the design isn't good. 20100728 23:47:52< shadowmaster> I mean the code design, of course. 20100728 23:47:59< shadowmaster> to hell with the user-visible aspects. 20100728 23:48:27< shadowmaster> here we are analyzing the internals :P 20100728 23:48:53< shadowmaster> hm. 20100728 23:48:58< shadowmaster> I intended to say "Wesnoth's code" in the blog post 20100728 23:49:05< shadowmaster> I guess I just had a Freudian slip there. 20100728 23:49:08 * Valkier wants to analyze shadowmaster's internals 20100728 23:49:18< Valkier> Mwahahaha! 20100728 23:49:20< shadowmaster> Valkier: riveting tale, chap. 20100728 23:49:20-!- King_Elendil [~King_Elen@75.143.235.104] has quit [Quit: Got to go, I'm in a hurry so bye.] 20100728 23:49:32< Valkier> Bolly! 20100728 23:53:51< Blarumyrran> The first sheep to be cloned? 20100728 23:54:11< shadowmaster> it was Dolly. 20100728 23:54:44< Blarumyrran> Oh. 20100728 23:55:48< shadowmaster> okay, that Tet guy is annoying. 20100728 23:56:10< shadowmaster> why does he have to show off his poor photoshopping/GIMPing skills in *every* thread he gets his hands on? --- Log closed Thu Jul 29 00:00:17 2010