--- Log opened Sun Jul 04 00:00:44 2010
20100704 00:12:43< Gambit> she's not a chatter bot
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20100704 00:54:13< King_Elendil> I know this is a long shot, but is anything interesting happening to anyone now, worth chatting about?
20100704 00:54:39< Lukc> No.
20100704 00:55:34< King_Elendil> what time is it now in the U.K.?
20100704 00:56:17< Lukc> I dunno, I'm not in the U.K. But if it's the same time than in France, it's 00:54:54.
20100704 00:57:04< King_Elendil> It's 1 AM in France, whoa.
20100704 00:58:52< Lukc> Technicaly, it's not yet 1AM.
20100704 01:00:15< King_Elendil> I was estimating :p. And nope, it's different, because it's mid-night in London.
20100704 01:01:33< Lukc> Bah, they're late, compared to us. :D
20100704 01:02:52< King_Elendil> It's only 7:01 PM where I live.
20100704 01:03:05< Lukc> And where is it ?
20100704 01:03:38< King_Elendil> Eastern United States
20100704 01:04:05< Lukc> The United States still exist ? :o
20100704 01:04:28< King_Elendil> Barely :/
20100704 01:04:48< Espreon> It matters not.
20100704 01:05:09< King_Elendil> Hey buddy :)
20100704 01:05:24< Espreon> Hello King_Elendil...
20100704 01:07:04< King_Elendil> what does the "..." mean?
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20100704 01:08:13< Lukc> That he doesn't use the unicode version that is “…”.
20100704 01:09:44< Espreon> It matters not.
20100704 01:10:25 * Lukc already heard that.
20100704 01:10:38< Espreon> Yeah, yeah...
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20100704 03:50:09< King_Elendil> Gambit, how are you doing?
20100704 03:50:22< Gambit> Terrible.
20100704 03:50:23< Gambit> Yourself?
20100704 03:50:43< King_Elendil> life is rough
20100704 03:51:34< King_Elendil> I'm kinda stoked right now though, because I might get my iPod back within a couple of days.
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20100704 05:05:26< elvish_sovereign> hi
20100704 05:05:53< shadowmaster> hi there
20100704 05:06:01< elvish_sovereign> hi shadowmaster
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20100704 05:06:37< elvish_sovereign> what did i miss?
20100704 05:07:03< elvish_sovereign> i mean, i was gone all day
20100704 05:11:31< shadowmaster> no idea
20100704 05:11:42< shadowmaster> I've not beeing paying attention here since these people are just crazy.
20100704 05:11:48< shadowmaster> being.
20100704 05:11:49< elvish_sovereign> aha
20100704 05:11:54< shadowmaster> been.
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20100704 05:25:37< Gambit> elvish_sovereign: He's been watching xvideos instead.
20100704 05:25:48< elvish_sovereign> lol
20100704 05:27:26< shadowmaster> Gambit: that didn't happen.
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20100704 05:28:49< Gambit> shadowmaster: Oh I see. One of those moments again?
20100704 05:29:29 * shadowmaster waves his fist at Gambit
20100704 05:29:30< Gambit> See those only really work when the channel isn't publicly logged and when Unnheulu is on vacation.
20100704 05:29:33< Gambit> But okay!
20100704 05:29:47< Gambit> Your hilarious quote is as safe as I can keep it.
20100704 05:30:00< shadowmaster> what quote?
20100704 05:30:06< shadowmaster> oh, that one.
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20100704 05:30:35< Gambit> Night all.
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20100704 05:30:37< shadowmaster> but it's not my fault that people have used google so much for porn
20100704 05:30:38< mistermatt> are there any games on linux similar to wesnoth?
20100704 05:31:08 * shadowmaster punches his Gambit voodoo doll.
20100704 05:31:25< shadowmaster> mistermatt: you mean, as in other fantasy-themed TBS?
20100704 05:31:43< mistermatt> I guess right now I'm thinking similar gameplay 
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20100704 05:33:49< shadowmaster> so, turn-based strategy
20100704 05:34:15< shadowmaster> I guess there are a few, but I'm only familiarized with freeciv, which is a Civilization clone of sorts.
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20100704 05:50:13< elvish_sovereign> got to go to sleep
20100704 05:50:16< elvish_sovereign> bye
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20100704 09:11:31< Ivanovic> moin
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20100704 14:24:54< Gambit> Good morning #wesnoth
20100704 14:25:11< Gambit> Happy Independence Day to any Americans.
20100704 14:25:29< Gambit> Happy Sunday to non Americans that use a 7 day english calendar.
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20100704 15:29:36< e_s-iOS> Hi
20100704 15:30:30< Gambit> You're not going to leave if we don't say hi are you?
20100704 15:30:34< Gambit> :P
20100704 15:30:45< e_s-iOS> Oh I was about to leave :)
20100704 15:31:04< e_s-iOS> Anyhow, how are you Gambit?
20100704 15:31:24< Gambit> Pretty good. Somehow my entire family caught a cold.
20100704 15:31:29< Gambit> But my braces aren't bugging me anymore
20100704 15:31:30< e_s-iOS> o.O
20100704 15:31:35< e_s-iOS> Lol
20100704 15:32:05< e_s-iOS> Somehow I can't imagine you with braces on
20100704 15:33:10< e_s-iOS> I have this mental image of everyone, unless they posted a picture in the pictures thread or something
20100704 15:33:50< Gambit> Cameras steal your soul!
20100704 15:34:00< e_s-iOS> Yes! Totally
20100704 15:35:08< e_s-iOS> When are you releasing BG to the AOS?
20100704 15:36:50< Gambit> When it's done. :D
20100704 15:37:02< Gambit> (and the answer to your next question is the same. :D )
20100704 15:37:09< Gambit> -smugleaf.png-
20100704 15:37:11< e_s-iOS> Ahh ok
20100704 15:37:23< Gambit> e_s-iOS: I couldn't work on it at all yesterday.
20100704 15:37:30< Gambit> And I probably won't today either.
20100704 15:37:34< e_s-iOS> Lol
20100704 15:37:41< Gambit> Well I take that back.
20100704 15:37:50< e_s-iOS> Too many numbers?
20100704 15:37:51< Gambit> I made two quick, yet radical gameplay changes yesterday.
20100704 15:38:02< Gambit> One. Archers don't work on their first turn.
20100704 15:38:02< e_s-iOS> Oh?
20100704 15:38:07< Gambit> Two. Archers have 6 range.
20100704 15:38:09< e_s-iOS> Thanknyou
20100704 15:38:30< e_s-iOS> So archers only?
20100704 15:38:41< Gambit> Balancing!
20100704 15:38:54< Gambit> e_s-iOS: Well I started adding gliders, but I didn't like the way I was doing it at all.
20100704 15:38:54< e_s-iOS> Btw, you should make a unit called a cannon
20100704 15:39:00< e_s-iOS> Oh
20100704 15:39:05< Gambit> Archers will be renamed when I have cannon art.
20100704 15:39:14< e_s-iOS> Then scratch what I said
20100704 15:39:42< Gambit> I am having so much trouble keeping this week in order...
20100704 15:39:47< Gambit> meh
20100704 15:39:55< e_s-iOS> Numbers are evil :D
20100704 15:40:11< e_s-iOS> Nah, I love them 
20100704 15:40:29< Gambit> Oh and I move leaders closer so that the scrolling when you turn starts doesn't take you a mile away from the action.
20100704 15:40:36< e_s-iOS> Yup
20100704 15:40:51< Gambit> I think that's it now.
20100704 15:40:55< Gambit> XD
20100704 15:41:09< e_s-iOS> Sry I can't test today, the whole day is full
20100704 15:41:14< e_s-iOS> With stuff
20100704 15:41:20< Gambit> That's cool. I got a new video game.
20100704 15:41:25< e_s-iOS> Lol
20100704 15:41:27< Gambit> Or rather the full version of an old one.
20100704 15:41:43< Gambit> (which is why I'm not working today)
20100704 15:41:55< e_s-iOS> Yay
20100704 15:42:01< Gambit> Though the WML guide could use some love so as I don't give up on it.
20100704 15:43:24< e_s-iOS> Yeah
20100704 15:44:52< e_s-iOS> Gambit: Did you play the new version of my campaign? If you didn't, you should and help me balance it.
20100704 15:47:22< e_s-iOS> Love his thread: http://forum.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=19043 
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20100704 15:50:51< e_s-iOS> Aaargh
20100704 15:50:55< e_s-iOS> Hate my Internet 
20100704 15:52:04< e_s-iOS> Hi Valkier 
20100704 15:52:20< Valkier> Howdy
20100704 15:52:38< e_s-iOS> Working on E(r)(l)yssa?
20100704 15:52:42< e_s-iOS> Lol
20100704 15:55:21< Valkier> eh, I will in a bit.
20100704 15:57:23< e_s-iOS> :)
20100704 15:57:24< Valkier> I took yesterday off to spend time with family.
20100704 15:57:34< e_s-iOS> That's nice
20100704 15:57:54< Valkier> I also managed to jailbreak and install custom software on my phone.
20100704 15:58:09< e_s-iOS> iPhone?
20100704 15:58:13< Valkier> Android
20100704 15:58:20< e_s-iOS> Ahh
20100704 15:58:23< e_s-iOS> The other
20100704 15:59:42< e_s-iOS> Ok, I have to get going. Fun-filled day in store. I'll get ya guys like 12 hrs from now!
20100704 15:59:52< e_s-iOS> Get = see
20100704 15:59:59< Valkier> Later on. Have fun!
20100704 16:00:03< e_s-iOS> Yay
20100704 16:00:18< e_s-iOS> Looking forward to Eryssa's sis. ;)
20100704 16:00:26< Valkier> lol
20100704 16:00:35< e_s-iOS> Bye
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20100704 16:20:23< PeterPorty> I love Andrew Loomis.
20100704 16:20:33< Valkier> Loomis!
20100704 16:21:33< PeterPorty> I don't longer draw like crap!
20100704 16:28:02< PeterPorty> Hey guys, I'm forcing my dad into wesnoth, but he keeps losing, I suggested him to start with the tale of two brothers or something like that... but he can't win the first scenario (yeah, he suckes) is AOI any easier? any other suggestion?
20100704 16:29:35< PeterPorty> anyone?
20100704 16:29:36< Valkier> TRoW is pretty easy I think.
20100704 16:29:48< PeterPorty> ummm... it is kinda long...
20100704 16:30:00< Valkier> I thought the point was he learn how to play.
20100704 16:30:04< PeterPorty> he wanted something a little shortter to start.
20100704 16:30:17< Valkier> It's as short as he wants it to be. :-P
20100704 16:30:39< PeterPorty> he did manage to win the tutorial though
20100704 16:30:45< PeterPorty> (with my help)
20100704 16:30:48< PeterPorty> :D
20100704 16:31:17< PeterPorty> plus TRoW is a hard campaign, isn't it?
20100704 16:31:24< Valkier> I didn't think so.
20100704 16:31:27< Valkier> It says it is though.
20100704 16:31:38< PeterPorty> hmm.... 
20100704 16:31:41< Valkier> Course I didn't play through much.
20100704 16:31:48< PeterPorty> oh...
20100704 16:32:05< PeterPorty> I remember it being pretty tough
20100704 16:32:07< Valkier> I only really play through campaigns when I need to get character info for portraits.
20100704 16:32:20< PeterPorty> O.o
20100704 16:32:36< PeterPorty> But... it is such a good game...
20100704 16:33:02< PeterPorty> anyays, I guess I'll have to play ToTB with him...
20100704 16:33:22< Valkier> It is a good game. That's why I like making graphics for it. :-P
20100704 16:33:30< Valkier> But I don't get to play it much as a result.
20100704 16:37:51< PeterPorty> well... stop drawing, and go play.
20100704 16:38:02< PeterPorty> no, don't... I like your art...
20100704 16:38:02< Valkier> ... No?
20100704 16:38:09< PeterPorty> damn...
20100704 16:38:12< Valkier> lol
20100704 16:38:34< PeterPorty> teach someone to draw as you do, and then go play wesnoth while he works.
20100704 16:38:37< PeterPorty> :D
20100704 16:38:43< Valkier> I wish.
20100704 16:38:48< Valkier> But i'm pretty bad.
20100704 16:38:57< PeterPorty> who cares
20100704 16:39:03< PeterPorty> look at shadowmaster
20100704 16:39:06< PeterPorty> :D
20100704 16:39:10< Valkier> Probably the guy who wants to learn to draw well.
20100704 16:39:35 * PeterPorty points at shadowmaster
20100704 16:39:50< Gambit> PeterPorty: I bought minecraft :D
20100704 16:40:05< PeterPorty> u did that some time ago.
20100704 16:40:08< Gambit> (and the answer to your next question is no)
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20100704 16:40:26< PeterPorty> but dude!
20100704 16:40:36< PeterPorty> you get a free copy to give away!
20100704 16:40:41< PeterPorty> :'(
20100704 16:40:49< Gambit> (I uh... may have cracked it before)
20100704 16:40:55< PeterPorty> haha
20100704 16:41:00< PeterPorty> well, I also have it.
20100704 16:41:11< PeterPorty> but I can't save :´(
20100704 16:41:16< Gambit> (But now it's legit! And I feel happy for have supported such a great one man indie game)
20100704 16:41:35< PeterPorty> I *can*, but I can not load afterwards.
20100704 16:41:39< Gambit> He added wires, batteries, switches, leavers, buttons, and pressure plates.
20100704 16:41:43< Gambit> It's "turing complete"
20100704 16:41:59< Gambit> As soon as I find some special red ore I'm going to make me some logic gates :D
20100704 16:42:22< PeterPorty> you sure you don't want to give me your free gift copy?
20100704 16:43:15< Gambit> What free gift copy?
20100704 16:43:44< PeterPorty> when you buy the game you get a free copy to give away
20100704 16:43:52< PeterPorty> to anyone you know.....
20100704 16:43:57< Gambit> Really? I was not informed and I have never ever read anything about that...
20100704 16:45:04< PeterPorty> http://www.minecraft.net/xmas/ maybe it was only for christmas....
20100704 16:46:06< PeterPorty> what is the good one? indev or infdev?
20100704 16:48:22< Gambit> infdev
20100704 16:48:50< Gambit> PeterPorty: (Please note that you need to fill this out before X-mas is over)
20100704 16:48:52< Gambit> ^from that page
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20100704 16:49:16< PeterPorty> so... it doesn't work anymore... damn.
20100704 16:49:19< e_s-iOS> Or not. Leaving time delayed to 12pm
20100704 16:49:28< e_s-iOS> Hey PeterPorty
20100704 16:49:32< PeterPorty> well, I downloaded it, so nvm
20100704 16:49:37< PeterPorty> hi e_s-iOS 
20100704 16:49:44< PeterPorty> how you doin?
20100704 16:50:17< e_s-iOS> Fine, you
20100704 16:50:22< e_s-iOS> ?
20100704 16:50:43< PeterPorty> cool
20100704 16:50:53< PeterPorty> trying to get this damn pirated game to work.
20100704 16:50:57< e_s-iOS> Lol
20100704 16:51:06< Gambit> Thanks to google's currancy converter, you can now watch the dollar get weaker almost in real time!
20100704 16:51:07< e_s-iOS> It's pirated, whaddaya expect?
20100704 16:51:08< PeterPorty> it's all Gambits fault though
20100704 16:51:44< Gambit> e_s-iOS: Every time I talk about a commercial game, he just *has* to have it...
20100704 16:51:48< PeterPorty> Gambit ruined my life... with Ender stuff and minecraft, plus wesnoth, I don't have a life anymore.
20100704 16:51:52< Gambit> e_s-iOS: He pirated wesnoth and frogatto!
20100704 16:51:56< PeterPorty> lol
20100704 16:51:58< e_s-iOS> ZOMG
20100704 16:52:09< e_s-iOS> PeterPorty: How could you?
20100704 16:52:11< e_s-iOS> Lol
20100704 16:52:14< PeterPorty> Gambit, shadowmaster told me about frogatto, not you.
20100704 16:52:23< e_s-iOS> Rather, me
20100704 16:52:26< e_s-iOS> :D
20100704 16:52:32< e_s-iOS> Anywho
20100704 16:52:34< PeterPorty> ...no...
20100704 16:53:00< Gambit> But yeah last night when I was looking into buying minecraft I did a google search to see the price in dollars
20100704 16:53:01< e_s-iOS> PeterPorty: Did you finish frogatto?
20100704 16:53:08< Gambit> And then 5 minutes later I did the same thing
20100704 16:53:14< Gambit> and it was worth 40 more cents :\
20100704 16:53:14< PeterPorty> nope... i played for 10 minutes
20100704 16:53:15< e_s-iOS> Lol
20100704 16:53:43< e_s-iOS> Petey, finish it! It's quite fun and it's not too long
20100704 16:53:49< PeterPorty> but the yoshi main character disturbs me.
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20100704 16:54:09< e_s-iOS> Did you play cave story?
20100704 16:54:16< PeterPorty> umm. no.
20100704 16:54:42< e_s-iOS> Well, the must-have platformer 
20100704 16:54:53< PeterPorty> if you say so.
20100704 16:55:02< Gambit> When they get frogatto on the wii; cave story is going down!
20100704 16:55:07< e_s-iOS> Lol
20100704 16:55:10< PeterPorty> ...
20100704 16:55:21< PeterPorty> why would anyone get a game on the wii?
20100704 16:55:21< e_s-iOS> But I found frogatto disappointingly easy
20100704 16:55:27< PeterPorty> better get it for ps2
20100704 16:55:53< PeterPorty> e_s-iOS, have you ever played IWBTG?
20100704 16:56:01< e_s-iOS> No
20100704 16:56:10< e_s-iOS> I don't play games usually
20100704 16:56:14< PeterPorty> google it, download it and see you in 1 month
20100704 16:56:26< PeterPorty> it's *the* plataformer.
20100704 16:56:27< e_s-iOS> What's the full name?
20100704 16:56:38< PeterPorty> I Wanna Be The Guy
20100704 16:56:43< e_s-iOS> Oh
20100704 16:57:09< PeterPorty> dude, if you finish it, you are my hero.
20100704 16:57:17< e_s-iOS> Is it free?
20100704 16:57:20< PeterPorty> yeah
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20100704 16:57:22< e_s-iOS> It's got to be
20100704 16:57:25< e_s-iOS> Good
20100704 16:57:45< e_s-iOS> I'll download it tomorrow
20100704 16:57:53< PeterPorty> also, try the unfair plataformer... it's a flash game, easier than IWBTG, but still good.
20100704 16:58:01< PeterPorty> also, UP is way shorter.
20100704 16:58:09< e_s-iOS> Ok
20100704 16:58:59< e_s-iOS> PeterPorty: Is IWBTG a shooter, jumper, or fighter?
20100704 16:59:17< PeterPorty> ummm... shooter, I believe.
20100704 16:59:24< e_s-iOS> Cool
20100704 16:59:44< PeterPorty> UP otoh has no enemies.
20100704 16:59:53< e_s-iOS> Oh, those
20100704 17:00:42< PeterPorty> :)
20100704 17:01:10< e_s-iOS> Btw, any of you here played the newest version of my campaign? If not, you shield and help me balance it. :)
20100704 17:01:17< e_s-iOS> Should*
20100704 17:01:36< PeterPorty> I'm playing minecraft, maybe laterz
20100704 17:01:42< e_s-iOS> Lol
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20100704 17:10:32< e_s-iOS> Gotta disconnect for a sec
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20100704 17:11:46< koda> hello, i've been trying to compile wesnoth on the iphone but it prints a lots of compilation errors
20100704 17:11:52< koda> can anyone help me?
20100704 17:16:40< Valkier> I think you'd want to try #Wesnoth-dev
20100704 17:16:53< koda> i will ^^ thanks
20100704 17:16:53< Valkier> Though if you're trying to do what I think, I'm not sure it will work anyhow.
20100704 17:17:11< koda> uh :o why not?
20100704 17:17:27< Valkier> Are you just trying to compile the code from the website to put it on your iPhone?
20100704 17:18:21< koda> well that's my second purpose
20100704 17:18:39< Valkier> Well, I'm not a programmer or anything so I could be wrong.
20100704 17:18:51< koda> i was actually trying to read the sdl optimization that they put in there :)
20100704 17:18:53< Valkier> However it seems to me the iPhone simply wouldn't recognize the language.
20100704 17:19:29< Valkier> I think they had some guy take about 6 months to recode most of the game in order for it to work on the iPhone OS.
20100704 17:21:37< koda> yeah kp iirc
20100704 17:21:45< koda> i met him once on irc
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20100704 17:23:43< e_s-iOS> Back
20100704 17:23:59< Gambit> PeterPorty: DIAMONDS!
20100704 17:24:12< PeterPorty> YEAh!
20100704 17:24:31< e_s-iOS> Wha?
20100704 17:26:40< Gambit> e_s-iOS: I found diamonds while digging in my basement/indoor stone quarry/coal mine
20100704 17:26:59< e_s-iOS> Lol
20100704 17:27:32< PeterPorty> Gambit: monsters only appear at night, right?
20100704 17:27:39< Gambit> PeterPorty: sic
20100704 17:27:51< PeterPorty> sic?
20100704 17:28:16< e_s-iOS> Gambit: Question: In BG, if I made a map with say a terrain like castles in the map, can soldiers move onto them? And would they be indestructable?
20100704 17:28:28< e_s-iOS> PeterPorty: I think he means sec
20100704 17:28:33< Gambit> e_s-iOS: they'd be captureable but indestructable
20100704 17:28:47< Gambit> And no I was speaking in a foreign language like Espreon loves to. :D
20100704 17:28:56< Gambit> Except a different langauge.
20100704 17:28:58< Gambit> One that he dislikes
20100704 17:29:00< PeterPorty> what language is that?
20100704 17:29:04< PeterPorty> french?
20100704 17:29:10< PeterPorty> latin?
20100704 17:29:15< Gambit> PeterPorty: Yes
20100704 17:29:20< Gambit> Use as much latin as you can!
20100704 17:29:25< Gambit> And maybe he'll speak english again
20100704 17:29:33< PeterPorty> ok... no. latin is a dead language
20100704 17:29:44< e_s-iOS> Gambit: So then if I used castles to connect the starting points... 
20100704 17:29:53< e_s-iOS> Then there would be no such thing as a tie.
20100704 17:29:59< e_s-iOS> Tie?*
20100704 17:30:12< Gambit> e_s-iOS: There won't be such a thing as a tie once I get the next thing on the todo list done
20100704 17:30:15< Gambit> but yes
20100704 17:30:21< e_s-iOS> Yep I know
20100704 17:30:48< Gambit> e_s-iOS: But also you won't be able to do anything on those hexes
20100704 17:30:52< Gambit> can't destroy them
20100704 17:30:55< Gambit> can't buy on them
20100704 17:30:58< e_s-iOS> Oh
20100704 17:31:15< e_s-iOS> Well, were waiting for the gliders anyhow!
20100704 17:31:21< e_s-iOS> We're*
20100704 17:31:35< Gambit> BG whitelists terrain for its menus
20100704 17:33:43< e_s-iOS> How much will gliders cost?
20100704 17:33:49< e_s-iOS> 50gold?
20100704 17:33:53< e_s-iOS> 70gold?
20100704 17:34:04< e_s-iOS> Or cheap?
20100704 17:34:41< e_s-iOS> Gambit?
20100704 17:39:11< Gambit> e_s-iOS: 50
20100704 17:39:19< Gambit> and they're really only there as an animation
20100704 17:39:25< e_s-iOS> Oh yeah, first guess!
20100704 17:39:29< Gambit> it's essentially soldier teleporting
20100704 17:39:42< Gambit> but it'll look like te glider is carrying them
20100704 17:39:44< e_s-iOS> Yeah, like that more than mobile fighters
20100704 17:39:50< Gambit> ,y brptjer os cpveromg ,y eyes
20100704 17:39:52< Gambit> argh
20100704 17:40:04< Gambit> brb
20100704 17:40:09< e_s-iOS> Lol
20100704 17:41:15< e_s-iOS> Lemme see
20100704 17:41:39< e_s-iOS> My brother is covering my eyes?
20100704 17:41:55< PeterPorty> lol
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20100704 17:42:54< e_s-iOS> Zerovirus!!!!
20100704 17:43:00< Zerovirus> Halllooooo
20100704 17:43:27< e_s-iOS> Saw your fighter in the thread
20100704 17:43:34< e_s-iOS> Looking very nice
20100704 17:43:54< e_s-iOS> Your new sprites will soothe my anger towards them
20100704 17:44:02< Zerovirus> Who's them?
20100704 17:44:12< e_s-iOS> The desert elves
20100704 17:44:30< Zerovirus> And why would you be angry at them?
20100704 17:44:43< e_s-iOS> UtBS gave me a crapload of worries
20100704 17:44:50< e_s-iOS> They suck
20100704 17:44:59< Gambit> Zerovirus: they're rather short
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20100704 17:45:05< Zerovirus> Well yeah they're crouching
20100704 17:45:10< Zerovirus> I'm trying to keep them to the same size
20100704 17:45:15< Zerovirus> Which is proving difficult for me
20100704 17:45:39< Gambit> Bandana = awesome
20100704 17:45:55< e_s-iOS> What Gambit said.
20100704 17:45:59< e_s-iOS> Yes.
20100704 17:46:09< Zerovirus> Actually, he's only 2 pixels shorter than his other version
20100704 17:46:11< Gambit> minus the shield and that is easily a pirate elf
20100704 17:46:24< Gambit> Zerovirus: yeah hes also moved down in the frame so; eye trickery
20100704 17:46:26< Zerovirus> I had to look up a few references for the desert clothes
20100704 17:46:32< Zerovirus> And don't forget the shadow
20100704 17:46:39< Zerovirus> The shadow makes his old version look bigger
20100704 17:47:07< Gambit> the lost height appears to be in his upper chest
20100704 17:47:30< Zerovirus> I always thought the elves proportions were weird
20100704 17:47:34< Zerovirus> The elves have huge chests
20100704 17:47:36< Zerovirus> and tiny legs
20100704 17:50:13< Zerovirus> Hoo boy the shield fighter's going to be fun to sprite
20100704 17:51:05< e_s-iOS> Ok gotta go
20100704 17:51:18< e_s-iOS> See ya all later
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20100704 17:54:08< Zerovirus> I can't believe I'm having a discussion on YGO tactics. On Wesnoth.
20100704 17:55:07< Gambit> ikr
20100704 17:55:31< Gambit> Zerovirus: Have you ever seen ordeal of a traveler?
20100704 17:55:41< Gambit> People actually refused to play with me after I got that one :(
20100704 17:56:30< Gambit> Whenever your opponent attacks they have to pick magic, trap, or monster, and then pick one random card from your hand. If they guess right the attack goes on. If they guess wrong their monster goes back to their hand. XD
20100704 17:56:32< Gambit> So annoying
20100704 17:56:57 * Gambit kicks nostalgia
20100704 17:57:18< Gambit> I tried playing through a chatroom last year with a friend who still had a "classic" deck
20100704 17:57:35< Gambit> 'twas boring
20100704 17:58:22< Zerovirus> My friend always owns me
20100704 17:58:25< Zerovirus> Stupid Mage Power
20100704 17:58:31< Zerovirus> His monsters always get +2500
20100704 17:58:37< Zerovirus> Because he relies on magic cards too much
20100704 17:58:45< Zerovirus> Oh and freaking WAVE MOTION CANNON
20100704 17:58:52< Zerovirus> In other words "lol you die in 8 turns"
20100704 17:59:02< Zerovirus> usually less due to damage already taken
20100704 17:59:28< Gambit> Zerovirus: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_AJPj40xtg
20100704 17:59:35< Gambit> (not on topic)
20100704 17:59:40< Gambit> (but funny)
20100704 18:03:15< Zerovirus> That was weird
20100704 18:12:18< Gambit> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=440061#p440061
20100704 18:12:27< Gambit> must... restrain... urge... to... punch...
20100704 18:14:32< Blarumyrran> Numbers are abstract judgemnts, coolness
20100704 18:15:14< Blarumyrran> That's about as good as your idea that 5/2 is an inexact and unpredictable thing as opposed to a number
20100704 18:17:11< Zerovirus> Hoo boy looks like a flamewar boiling up there
20100704 18:17:17< Zerovirus> Somehow that's what happens when Midnight is involved
20100704 18:19:44< Gambit> I wonder how fractions work in base 15
20100704 18:19:57< Zerovirus> the same?
20100704 18:20:02< Blarumyrran> "and that my political philosphy lecturer explained it right and that I understood him"
20100704 18:20:09< Gambit> Well yeah Zerovirus.
20100704 18:20:17< Gambit> Rather I wonder how they compare.
20100704 18:20:34< Gambit> (quantity wise)
20100704 18:20:43< Zerovirus> Doing math on paper using bases above 10 hurts my head
20100704 18:20:52< Zerovirus> Usually I have to make up symbols :P
20100704 18:20:55< Blarumyrran> Maybe I shouldn't generalize, but I'm getting a pretty bad idea a of philosophers judging by our 2 here
20100704 18:21:09< Zerovirus> (Probably a really neantherthal methodology)
20100704 18:22:06< Gambit> Zerovirus: But counting in base 16 is fun!
20100704 18:22:15< Gambit> (just not doing math)
20100704 18:22:37< Zerovirus> Eh, I usually name numbers after ten using a different language :P
20100704 18:22:51< Zerovirus> One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, shiyi, shier, shisan, shisi, shiwu, ten.
20100704 18:23:01< Zerovirus> Actually that's base 15 >.>
20100704 18:23:09< Zerovirus> And somehow I put ten in there twice
20100704 18:23:17< Zerovirus> I should stop trying to use both halves of my brain at the same time
20100704 18:23:29< Gambit> 1, 2, 3, 4 ,5 ,6 ,7 ,8 ,9 ,10, a, b, c, d, e?
20100704 18:23:37< Blarumyrran> What
20100704 18:23:44< Blarumyrran> 10 is between a and 9?
20100704 18:23:55< Gambit> err
20100704 18:24:00< Gambit> Blarumyrran: yeah that was wrong XD
20100704 18:24:12< Zerovirus> Okay let's try this again
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20100704 18:24:27< Gambit> 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 ,8 ,9, a, b ,c ,d ,e, f
20100704 18:24:32< Zerovirus> one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, shi, shiyi, shier, shisan, shisi, shiwu, ten
20100704 18:24:36< Zerovirus> I prefer my system
20100704 18:25:01< Gambit> 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 ,15, ,16 ,17, 18, 19, 1a, 1b, 1c, 1d, 1e, 1f, 20 :D
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20100704 18:26:12< Gambit> k? :o base.. 20?
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20100704 18:26:47< Zerovirus> Aaah I'm stuckw ith the shield fighter
20100704 18:26:54< Zerovirus> I have no idea what to give him besides a huge shield
20100704 18:28:03< Blarumyrran> Clothes
20100704 18:28:18< Gambit> Zerovirus: http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100402174705/kingdomhearts/images/thumb/5/55/Defender_(Shield).png/256px-Defender_(Shield).png
20100704 18:28:29< Zerovirus> Uh no
20100704 18:28:35< Zerovirus> I already made his shield
20100704 18:28:39< Zerovirus> I'm trying to draw the other stuff
20100704 18:28:46< Electric_Brain> Gambit: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 ,8 ,9, a, b ,c ,d ,e, f,g,h,i,j that's base 20 :P
20100704 18:29:25< Blarumyrran> In Erlang you could easily define any base up to z that way
20100704 18:29:38< Gambit> Zerovirus: 3D glasses?
20100704 18:30:06< Zerovirus> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30560&start=30
20100704 18:30:06< Gambit> LOL I just had a great idea for april fools 2011
20100704 18:30:10< Zerovirus> I updated with the shield
20100704 18:30:11< Gambit> They announced 3D wesnoth
20100704 18:30:13< Zerovirus> I get those regularily
20100704 18:30:16< Zerovirus> About three times a month
20100704 18:30:16< Gambit> but it's not 3D graphics
20100704 18:30:25< Gambit> it's the sprites pop out of the screen
20100704 18:30:31< Zerovirus> lol that'd be interesting
20100704 18:30:40< Zerovirus> Though using red-blue glasses would kill spriters utterly
20100704 18:30:47< Gambit> Zerovirus: air conditioner shield?
20100704 18:30:57< Zerovirus> sure why not
20100704 18:30:58< Blarumyrran> Zerovirus, I don't understand his chest
20100704 18:31:05< Gambit> Zerovirus: they use green and magenta now I think
20100704 18:31:12< Gambit> Zerovirus: And they have colorless ones
20100704 18:31:35< Zerovirus> The chest is kind-of like a thin breastplate thing made of polished leather
20100704 18:32:02< Blarumyrran> Frankly I'm not sure it's an improvement :>
20100704 18:32:18< Blarumyrran> (Other than for distinctivness from the forest elves)
20100704 18:32:43< Gambit> lol: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=440100#p440100
20100704 18:33:08< Blarumyrran> Gambit, I think I've seen almost the same thing a long time ago
20100704 18:33:15< Zerovirus> Eh, it's not very well-done atm
20100704 18:33:18< Blarumyrran> Also for elvish villages.
20100704 18:33:25< Zerovirus> I freely admit that someone else might do better than me >.>
20100704 18:33:43< Zerovirus> But right now the desert elves are basically recolors and that's not good :\
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20100704 18:46:50< Gambit> was fast :D
20100704 18:46:51< wesbot> Gambit: Sometimes we are fast
20100704 18:53:55< PeterPorty> bye, off to my dads house.
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20100704 19:35:52< Zerovirus> going afk
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20100704 20:13:49< mistermatt> aside from the stock scenario, are there any custom necromancy kind of storylines?
20100704 20:19:13< Blarumyrran> There are no good other campaigns where a necromancer is a protagonist and the story centers on necromancy.
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20100704 20:20:38< Blarumyrran> There are 1) other campaigns where a necromancer is a protagonist (Invasion from the Unknown, which I don't really like but a lot of people do) 2) other campaigns where the story centers on necromancery though (eg Eastern Invasion)
20100704 20:21:04< Blarumyrran> 3) other campaigns that have both, but aren't any good (the Dark Hordes)
20100704 20:21:48< Blarumyrran> But no combination of the 3.
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20100704 20:23:52< Gambit> shadowmaster: good evening
20100704 20:24:34< Gambit> You've seen that seeing is believing.
20100704 20:25:45< shadowmaster> you mean afternoon
20100704 20:25:47< Gambit> But no worries. Your eyes and ears are fine.
20100704 20:29:41< mistermatt> what is a good strategy for playing as a necromancer, i can't seem to keep my units alive long enough for them to level up
20100704 20:31:59< Zerovirus> spam
20100704 20:32:03< Zerovirus> large amounts of units
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20100704 20:32:09< Zerovirus> use terrain correctly
20100704 20:32:18< Zerovirus> the usual wesnoth tactics
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20100704 20:36:33< Gambit> I like to attack enemies.
20100704 20:36:37< Gambit> That's my strategy.
20100704 20:36:53< Gambit> (not guarunteed to work)
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20100704 21:41:10< King_Elendil> what happened to this guy? http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=2601#p2601
20100704 21:43:11< King_Elendil> this guy too: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=17585#p17585
20100704 21:43:52< Blarumyrran> They suddenly realised they were using Macs, and jumped down a high building.
20100704 21:44:18< Blarumyrran> overridden by shame, and guilt
20100704 21:44:42< Gambit> King_Elendil: Either database corruption
20100704 21:44:54< Gambit> or the forum used to allow guests to enter usernames and post
20100704 21:47:23< King_Elendil> Gambit: thanks. And Blarumyrran: have you ever used a mac?
20100704 21:47:30< Blarumyrran> Yes
20100704 21:47:45< Blarumyrran> (briefly)
20100704 21:47:52< King_Elendil> so what do you not like about them?
20100704 21:48:26< Blarumyrran> If I'd explain that, it would qualify as starting a flame war :)
20100704 21:48:51< Gambit> That flame's been burning since the world's been turning.
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20100704 21:49:43< King_Elendil> oh man, I missed Zero :(
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20100704 22:03:19< DDR> I used a mac briefly, once. It was terrible. It wasn't *my* mac, and it was a high-pressure situation.
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20100704 22:04:24< Blarumyrran> I used a mac briefly. It was terrible. It wasn't my mac, but I couldn't do anything there.
20100704 22:04:43< Blarumyrran> I was also drunk, but better not let King_Elendil know that
20100704 22:05:08< Blarumyrran> Oh damn, you left also
20100704 22:07:35< Aethaeryn> IF Mac OS, AND VERSION < 10, THEN FAIL
20100704 22:08:08< Aethaeryn> Fortunately, the rewrite is UNIX-based so someone should be able to at least do *something* with it given a command lien.
20100704 22:08:18< Aethaeryn> Or even a command line
20100704 22:08:49< Blarumyrran> A chisel and a hammer
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20100704 22:18:44< Aethaeryn> the one thing I really hate about Mac OS X is the lack of a full screen, where it just enlarges the window to as big as it thinks you'll need it
20100704 22:18:56< Aethaeryn> fine on a desktop like an iMac, where fullscreen is indeed excessive 
20100704 22:19:00< Aethaeryn> awful of a laptop
20100704 22:19:11< Aethaeryn> and unfortunately, Apple's best seller is the Macbook (Pro) line.
20100704 22:19:27< Aethaeryn> (apple's computer best seller... damn you Internet nitpickers)
20100704 22:21:39< Blarumyrran> Wait, what
20100704 22:21:42< Blarumyrran> "lack of a full screen"?
20100704 22:21:45< Blarumyrran> Can that be real
20100704 22:21:52< Aethaeryn> Blarumyrran: instead of maximize
20100704 22:21:55< Aethaeryn> that fills screen
20100704 22:22:02< Aethaeryn> it just enlarges the window as big as it thinks you need it
20100704 22:22:02< Blarumyrran> Yes
20100704 22:22:12< Blarumyrran> Are you saying no programs ever use full screen, or
20100704 22:22:18< Aethaeryn> e.g. in web browsers, it stretches to the size of that CURRENT page
20100704 22:22:29< Aethaeryn> Blarumyrran: No, I'm saying it's not as easy for most apps to fill the screen as it is in Windows/Linux
20100704 22:22:32< Aethaeryn> THAT IS ALL.
20100704 22:22:35< Aethaeryn> NO MORE, NO LESS.
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20100704 22:26:17< Blarumyrran> That's still pretty silly alright
20100704 22:30:03< PeterPorty> shadowmaster, good evening.
20100704 22:30:28< PeterPorty> :p
20100704 22:30:38< shadowmaster> afternoon.
20100704 22:31:12< PeterPorty> haha
20100704 22:31:37< shadowmaster> what's so funny?
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20100704 23:01:41< Gambit> PeterPorty: His eyes and his ears are bleeding.
20100704 23:02:10< Gambit> shadowmaster: Please check to see if you're still breathing.
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20100704 23:07:05 * shadowmaster punches Gambit 
20100704 23:07:34< PeterPorty> Gambit, wtf?
20100704 23:11:25< Gambit> PeterPorty: get some culture
20100704 23:11:25< Gambit> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMlKmELIhgY
20100704 23:11:28< Gambit> ^it's a song
20100704 23:14:53< PeterPorty> your song is crap
20100704 23:16:09< Gambit> Wow Zarel posted.
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20100704 23:22:10< Gambit> The art workshop needs new talent.
20100704 23:22:12< Gambit> Fresh meat.
20100704 23:22:30< Gambit> What ever happened to the guy with the hookah units?
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20100704 23:33:13< Hulavuta> Back from camp!
20100704 23:34:28< Gambit> Kicked out already?
20100704 23:34:35< Gambit> Hulavuta: Well that's okay. You've still got us.
20100704 23:34:47< Gambit> Hulavuta: What kind of camp?
20100704 23:35:01< Gambit> Sports, science, nerd, hippy, actually camping?
20100704 23:35:40< Gambit> spawn?
20100704 23:35:47< Gambit> (hur hur)
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20100704 23:44:05< PeterPorty> oh, maybe it was like tom's porn camp!
20100704 23:44:17< PeterPorty> (was it?)
20100704 23:44:29< Hulavuta> Sorry, my dad had to check his E-mail
20100704 23:44:35< Hulavuta> But to answer your questions:
20100704 23:44:57< Hulavuta> It was a Christian camp
20100704 23:45:21< PeterPorty> oh...
20100704 23:45:27< Hulavuta> Gambit: And from that you can deduct that the reason I'm home so soon is because we didn't have money (because it's based from Church)
20100704 23:45:31< PeterPorty> not quitw hwat I had in mind...
20100704 23:45:34< Hulavuta> And I actually learned a lot
20100704 23:45:47< Hulavuta> Like you can figure out a lot about someone by asking them 3 questions
20100704 23:45:51< PeterPorty> quite*
20100704 23:46:02< PeterPorty> ask me, Hulavuta
20100704 23:46:11< Hulavuta> PeterPorty: You're somewhat correct, we learned about Porn
20100704 23:46:23< Hulavuta> Like how it's bad and how society uses it to seel stuff
20100704 23:46:24< PeterPorty> cool, but ask me the 3 questions
20100704 23:46:27< Hulavuta> Anyway, here are the questions:
20100704 23:46:35< Hulavuta> 1. Where did we come from? (Like the universe)
20100704 23:46:39< Hulavuta> 2. What the hell went wrong?
20100704 23:46:44< Hulavuta> 3. How do we fix it?
20100704 23:47:21< PeterPorty> we came from daddy god, what whent wrong? well, humans appeared, and how to fix it... well, killing all human beings.
20100704 23:47:34< Hulavuta> Are you serious about that?
20100704 23:47:38< PeterPorty> yes.
20100704 23:47:43< PeterPorty> why?
20100704 23:48:00< PeterPorty> the world would be a better place without human beings
20100704 23:48:05< Hulavuta> Ok
20100704 23:48:07< Hulavuta> Just wondering
20100704 23:48:31< PeterPorty> so, what did you learn about me?
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20100704 23:48:44< TimeBecomes> lol "better place"
20100704 23:48:47< TimeBecomes> better for what?
20100704 23:48:55< PeterPorty> it would be perfect.
20100704 23:49:39< Hulavuta> Well I learned that you don't think humanity is capable of solving the problem themselves
20100704 23:49:58< PeterPorty> no, since the problem is humanity
20100704 23:50:07< TimeBecomes> problem for whom?
20100704 23:50:11< Hulavuta> That's another thing I learned from you too
20100704 23:50:13< PeterPorty> for the world
20100704 23:50:37< Hulavuta> TimeBecomes: You missed it, I went to camp, and I learned that you can learn a lot about people and their view of life by asking them three questions
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20100704 23:51:02< PeterPorty> God made a serious mistake by creating us...
20100704 23:51:23< PeterPorty> we were such a nice idea, but we didn't turn out how we were planned....
20100704 23:52:35< TimeBecomes> "the world" cannot have a problem, only sentient beings have problems
20100704 23:52:49< Gambit> Or perhaps he who's image we were made in was flawed as well...
20100704 23:52:56< TimeBecomes> and it would be a very pathetic God that could create the "problem" of humanity and not be able to solve it
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20100704 23:53:20< PeterPorty> I know, we werew a horrible mistake.
20100704 23:53:26< PeterPorty> were*
20100704 23:53:36< Gambit> philotes!
20100704 23:53:58< Hulavuta> Let's not get into a religious debate here
20100704 23:54:01< PeterPorty> but don't worry, we will be solved... it'll take some time, but we will eventually fall.
20100704 23:54:24< PeterPorty> and nobody will bring us down, we will colapse ourselves....
20100704 23:54:45< Gambit> optimisim!
20100704 23:55:16< PeterPorty> I am optimist.
20100704 23:55:21< PeterPorty> ic*
20100704 23:55:32< PeterPorty> but I am also realistic...
20100704 23:56:05< PeterPorty> We will someday die, and for every single one of us who dies, the world will be a little better.
20100704 23:56:16< Gambit> PeterPorty: Wrong
20100704 23:56:21< Gambit> Population is increasing
20100704 23:56:22< TimeBecomes> better by what standard?
20100704 23:56:37< Gambit> PeterPorty: It's a J curve dude.
20100704 23:56:39< TimeBecomes> if everyone is dead, things are literally "better" for no one
20100704 23:56:39< PeterPorty> Gambit, every big thing has to fall some day.
20100704 23:56:58< PeterPorty> Time, not everyone, only human beings
20100704 23:57:05< Gambit> PeterPorty: The world is *ours*
20100704 23:57:16< PeterPorty> ummm.... not really, Gambit
20100704 23:57:18< Gambit> The only view that matters as far as "Better" goes is humans.
20100704 23:57:30< PeterPorty> we belong to the world
20100704 23:57:37< Gambit> PeterPorty: call me when we get to space
20100704 23:57:45< Gambit> Then we can worry about human actions.
20100704 23:57:48< PeterPorty> we *need* the world, the world doesn't need us
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20100704 23:58:26< PeterPorty> be back in like 30 minutes, I need to go buy... c ya.
20100704 23:58:29< Gambit> As long as we keep the world habbitable for us; no worries.
20100704 23:59:44< Gambit> Though some greedy brits are looking to f*ck that up
20100704 23:59:54< TimeBecomes> imo anyone who honestly thinks the world is better without humanity is free to start with themselves.  I on the other hand am perfectly at peace with being at the top of nature's pecking order
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