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20100710 00:00:22< Gambit> (or scares them into suicde...)
20100710 00:00:46< elvish_sovereign> lol
20100710 00:02:02< elvish_sovereign> hmmm
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20100710 00:04:33< elvish_sovereign> ok
20100710 00:04:41< elvish_sovereign> colloquy's acting weird
20100710 00:04:50< Gambit> It's jealous.
20100710 00:05:20< elvish_sovereign> i already close irssi!
20100710 00:05:26< elvish_sovereign> closed*
20100710 00:05:29< elvish_sovereign> argh, you
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20100710 00:11:27< elvish_sovereign> argh colloquy
20100710 00:11:44< elvish_sovereign> anywho
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20100710 00:27:22< elvish_sovereign> hmmm...
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20100710 00:38:33< elvish_sovereign> okay gotta go
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20100710 01:29:53< shadowmaster> where's artisticdude when I need him
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20100710 01:45:33< PeterPorty> Gambit, I have a server of my own now.... I would appreciate if you would help me get it started...
20100710 01:45:48< PeterPorty> oh, you are also a superop in it... in case you were wondering...
20100710 01:45:55< PeterPorty> the name is Hegemony
20100710 01:46:16< Gambit> tempting
20100710 01:46:51< PeterPorty> :)
20100710 01:47:32< PeterPorty> Gambit: also, I have permission to steal SpA's maps evetually, to make my server better...
20100710 01:47:42< PeterPorty> but since it is down, I can't do it today...
20100710 01:49:29< Gambit> shadowmaster: care to raise his offer :D
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20100710 01:50:03< Gambit> actually I'm working on my super rail system right now
20100710 01:50:11< Gambit> I built my first mega bridge from an island to the mainland
20100710 01:50:18< shadowmaster> I need artistic dude
20100710 01:51:25< PeterPorty> :(
20100710 01:51:33< PeterPorty> so you ain't gonna help me?
20100710 01:51:37< shadowmaster> anyone else has touchbb?
20100710 01:51:40< shadowmaster> touchbb lite.
20100710 01:51:48< PeterPorty> come on, you would be co.owner
20100710 01:51:53< PeterPorty> same rights as me...
20100710 01:52:49< PeterPorty> Gambit, I know you want to...
20100710 01:53:42< Gambit> fine pete
20100710 01:53:46< Gambit> but only because I ran out of iron :P
20100710 01:53:55< PeterPorty> :)
20100710 01:53:58< PeterPorty> THANKS
20100710 01:54:07< Gambit> hegemony is not on the list
20100710 01:54:52< PeterPorty> Hegemony
20100710 01:55:01< PeterPorty> it is, I looked for it and there it is...
20100710 01:55:28< Gambit> Nope
20100710 01:56:07< PeterPorty> damn...
20100710 01:56:18< PeterPorty> wait a bit, please
20100710 01:57:01< PeterPorty> http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?server=16560d056eb7361caf1712aa9b8896f0
20100710 01:57:03< PeterPorty> there
20100710 01:57:20< Gambit> same problem as freebuild
20100710 01:57:23< Gambit> stuck on connecting
20100710 01:57:38< PeterPorty> O.o
20100710 01:57:43< PeterPorty> THAT is weird...
20100710 01:58:22< PeterPorty> really? it works perfectly fine for me....
20100710 01:59:50< PeterPorty> Damn... I'll ask on the forums, I guess we will have to start it tomorrow...
20100710 01:59:58< PeterPorty> it will be dinner time soon anyway....
20100710 02:00:05< PeterPorty> I'll go to the forums...
20100710 02:01:54< PeterPorty> sorry for this...
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20100710 02:18:06< Onevirus> Zerovirus: hey
20100710 02:18:18< Zerovirus> Hey
20100710 02:20:14< Zerovirus> What'd Shadowmaster do to the forums in the downtime? I don't see anything right now.
20100710 02:20:33< Onevirus> He added a thing and then took it down.
20100710 02:20:41< Onevirus> And he broke this one thing, but then fixed it.
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20100710 02:21:01< Onevirus> And he added this broken thing that you can't notice really, and he's fixing that.
20100710 02:21:01< Zerovirus> that's helpful
20100710 02:21:09< Onevirus> It was really a lateral move AFAICT.
20100710 02:22:34< Onevirus> Maybe shadowmaster would be able to shed some more light.
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20100710 02:28:56< shadowmaster> Zerovirus: software upgrade, basically.
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20100710 02:34:13< PeterPorty> Onevirus, the problem was that I didn't forward the port to my router... I am now trying to do it, but I can't...
20100710 02:34:15< PeterPorty> :/
20100710 02:35:24< e_s-iOS> Hi PeterPorty 
20100710 02:35:36< PeterPorty> hi e_s-iOS 
20100710 02:36:05< e_s-iOS> Whatcha doin'
20100710 02:36:09< PeterPorty> does anyone know why can't I acces 192.168.1.1 in my browser?
20100710 02:36:18< PeterPorty> trying to set up my minecraft server...
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20100710 02:59:29< Onevirus> eureka
20100710 03:00:02< elvish_sovereign> what?
20100710 03:00:17< elvish_sovereign> what happened?
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20100710 03:35:15< norbert_> hi all
20100710 03:35:37< norbert_> I looked through the new animations a bit and some of them are pretty cool :)
20100710 03:35:50< elvish_sovereign> be norbert_ 
20100710 03:35:55< elvish_sovereign> hi*
20100710 03:36:08< elvish_sovereign> sry i missed your message earlier...i was ark
20100710 03:36:11< elvish_sovereign> afk*
20100710 03:36:15< norbert_> like the death of the mages, detail like the book dropping open http://forum.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=351975#p351975
20100710 03:36:17< elvish_sovereign> what's wrong with me today?
20100710 03:36:27< norbert_> elvish_sovereign: no problem
20100710 03:36:58< norbert_> seems that mage animation finished about a year ago?
20100710 03:37:10< norbert_> will it be added in the future?
20100710 03:45:48< Zerovirus> I am having a lot of trouble making my Lv3 transition smoothly between the lv2 and lv4
20100710 03:52:19< Aethaeryn> just average the two together?
20100710 03:58:57< Zerovirus> Trying to
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20100710 03:59:05< Zerovirus> but if you compare the overlord and my Lv2
20100710 03:59:08< Zerovirus> they look NOTHING alike
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20100710 04:02:07< Zerovirus> I just want to say that whoever designed the original helmets of this unit line was a genius
20100710 04:02:14< Zerovirus> And since I know he's Neorice, it's a given
20100710 04:03:34< Aethaeryn> ah, cool.
20100710 04:03:38< Aethaeryn> well, i'm glad we'll see more mainlined stuff
20100710 04:03:42< Aethaeryn> even if they're campaign-only at first.
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20100710 04:21:30< Zerovirus> Whoo, almost finished
20100710 04:21:43< Zerovirus> And after this all I have to do is completely redesign the Overlord to EVILEST's wishes
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20100710 04:33:49< PetePorty> I am mad, I need to hit someone....
20100710 04:34:01 * PetePorty hits Zerovirus 
20100710 04:34:10 * Zerovirus hits peteporty back
20100710 04:34:14< Zerovirus> in the face
20100710 04:34:18< PetePorty> dude!
20100710 04:34:18< Zerovirus> and then /me kicks him
20100710 04:34:20< Zerovirus> also in the face
20100710 04:34:26< Zerovirus> and then me does down, downforward, forward
20100710 04:34:27< PetePorty> I am the one who's mad!
20100710 04:34:27< Zerovirus> PUNCH
20100710 04:34:30< Zerovirus> HADOUKEN
20100710 04:34:41< PetePorty> oh, no. u said the 'f' word...
20100710 04:34:44< Zerovirus> And then Zerovirus asks him why he's so mad.
20100710 04:34:50< PetePorty> u deserve to die...
20100710 04:35:10< Zerovirus> So why are you so mad?
20100710 04:35:11< PetePorty> oh, I can't 'f' word the damn port....
20100710 04:35:18< Zerovirus> Besides the fact that I hadoken'd you in the face.
20100710 04:35:37< PetePorty> cuz I can't login as admin on my router.
20100710 04:35:49< PetePorty> although I reseted to default...
20100710 04:36:02< PetePorty> and the pass is supposed to be blank...
20100710 04:36:06< PetePorty> it doesn't work
20100710 04:36:11< Zerovirus> Sucks man
20100710 04:36:19< Zerovirus> Get some leet hacker or something to do your dirty work :P
20100710 04:36:19< PetePorty> and I sent a threatening email to the d-link staff....
20100710 04:36:29< Zerovirus> Also, finished the Invader line initial version
20100710 04:36:34< Zerovirus> Going to go back and fix details
20100710 04:36:39< Zerovirus> As well as fix that stupid ugly Overlord
20100710 04:36:39< PetePorty> and they didn't answer
20100710 04:36:42< PetePorty> link me
20100710 04:38:10< Zerovirus> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30560&p=441670#p441670
20100710 04:40:10< shadowmaster> Zerovirus: I'm missing that semi fan-made philosophy stuff AFAIK
20100710 04:40:20< shadowmaster> No idea about Espreon, who isn't here unfortunately.
20100710 04:40:32< Zerovirus> shadowmaster: I'll send a compressed version to you and you can make the calls on what to commit and what to omit
20100710 04:40:52< shadowmaster> hm, okay
20100710 04:41:15< shadowmaster> also note that we are working on a semi-secret project to document all of this post-Fall stuff.
20100710 04:41:30< shadowmaster> and also to provide our own version of the creation of Irdya.
20100710 04:41:38< PetePorty> Zero, I love what you did
20100710 04:41:57< PetePorty> it is the same that EVILEST is working on, right?
20100710 04:42:05 * shadowmaster . O o (I feel like I'm playing a god here!)
20100710 04:44:27< Zerovirus> Yes
20100710 04:44:29< Zerovirus> Yes it is
20100710 04:44:35< Zerovirus> UtBS will be awesome when we're done
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20100710 04:46:45< Zerovirus> shadowmaster: sent you the stuff we came up with
20100710 04:46:51< shadowmaster> k
20100710 04:47:23< shadowmaster> via email?
20100710 04:48:00< Zerovirus> No, I sent you a PM with an attachment
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20100710 04:49:42< shadowmaster> Zerovirus: are you sure? I don't have any new PMs
20100710 04:50:10< Zerovirus> ...Strange, I'm sure I sent it
20100710 04:50:18< Zerovirus> I'll blame this on you screwing with the forum software :D
20100710 04:51:07< shadowmaster> no
20100710 04:51:12< shadowmaster> check your sentbox or outbox
20100710 04:51:19< shadowmaster> maybe you sent it to the wront target
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20100710 04:51:36< shadowmaster> *wrong
20100710 04:51:53< shadowmaster> DAMMIT
20100710 04:51:59< shadowmaster> I just deleted all my bookmarks
20100710 04:52:24< Zerovirus> Uh, not sure if lol
20100710 04:53:14< shadowmaster> bless you, Undo feature
20100710 04:53:22< shadowmaster> and Redo.
20100710 04:54:20< Zerovirus> Wait, you were right about Espreon not being here for once
20100710 04:54:24< Zerovirus> He isn't even logged into IRC
20100710 04:54:25< shadowmaster> Zerovirus: so, what was the target?
20100710 04:54:28< Zerovirus> And I thought you meant he was just AFK
20100710 04:54:38< Zerovirus> Apparently I didn't actually press send
20100710 04:54:45< Zerovirus> If I could use that blushing emote I would be doing so right now
20100710 04:54:48< shadowmaster> no, his session got isconnected, and since he's in Summer camp he's not been able to reconnect it
20100710 04:54:53< shadowmaster> *disconnected
20100710 04:55:04< shadowmaster> okay, I'm seeing the PM
20100710 04:55:12< Zerovirus> I'm trying to imagine him in summer camp teaching all his campmates about biang
20100710 04:55:29< shadowmaster> arsgdfsfdas RTF
20100710 04:55:34 * shadowmaster summons Microsoft Word
20100710 04:55:51< Zerovirus> I saved it in wordpad >.>
20100710 04:56:02< shadowmaster> Word can also read RTFs
20100710 04:56:23< shadowmaster> and I only have Office here, since this isn't Windows
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20100710 04:57:33< shadowmaster> hm.
20100710 04:57:48< shadowmaster> s/god/goddess/ all over the place
20100710 04:57:55< Zerovirus> So how much of it actually was useful and how much was just useless purple prose? :P
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20100710 04:58:25< shadowmaster> also, what's about your explanation for the Dark Hive?
20100710 04:58:35< shadowmaster> it's supposed to be a Borg-like hive, no more, no less
20100710 04:58:36< Zerovirus> I was also trying to explain how Chaos was seen as worse than anythign else
20100710 04:58:45< Zerovirus> And the only way I could see that happening was that it destroyed the land itself
20100710 04:58:52< Zerovirus> Which naturally meant I had to come up with random crap to explain it
20100710 04:59:01< Zerovirus> This happened to be the first thing that popped into my head
20100710 04:59:14< Zerovirus> Okay, replace Dark Hive with "Chaos Territory" then.
20100710 04:59:16< shadowmaster> ah wait
20100710 04:59:19< Zerovirus> Same general idea.
20100710 04:59:21< shadowmaster> yeah, that's okay, I confused the Dark Hive with the Heart
20100710 04:59:43< shadowmaster> the Heart is the capital of the Chaos Empire (formerly Weldyn)
20100710 04:59:43< Zerovirus> Perhaps a combination of the two?
20100710 04:59:58< shadowmaster> the Dark Hive is one of the multiple underground levels of the zone
20100710 05:00:02< Zerovirus> Just as the evil demon stuff can corrupt land, it also corrupts technology resulting in the Dark Hive borgcube thing.
20100710 05:00:24< shadowmaster> well, they don't corrupt technology as much as use it.
20100710 05:00:45< shadowmaster> technology obtained from the Argazar civilization, from Inferno itself, and finally, from Norsula (another Irdya-like world)
20100710 05:00:46< Zerovirus> Eh, that's okay too, but I always thought the Shaxthal got twisted into being evil
20100710 05:00:59< Zerovirus> after they were lost and rebuilt
20100710 05:01:01< shadowmaster> no, the Shaxthal don't have any alignment
20100710 05:01:08< Zerovirus> Oh.
20100710 05:01:09< shadowmaster> they are mindless beasts (Elyssa and Argan are a different matter)
20100710 05:01:14< Zerovirus> Well they look pretty damn evil >.>
20100710 05:01:42< Zerovirus> Well, brew over this as much as you want, the Soulbound don't really even matter unless you make them an enemy or something in After The Storm.
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20100710 05:01:57< Zerovirus> They don't even get sprites so we could just ignore all this for the time being
20100710 05:02:08< Zerovirus> Finally, I'm going to bed
20100710 05:02:12< Zerovirus> It is way too late for me to be up
20100710 05:02:12< Zerovirus> bye
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20100710 05:02:59< shadowmaster> k
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20100710 05:10:29< PetePorty> it's all shadowmaster's fault...
20100710 05:11:28< shadowmaster> what is?
20100710 05:12:44< shadowmaster> PetePorty: what is my fault?
20100710 05:13:00< PetePorty> that I can't forward port.
20100710 05:21:31< PetePorty> omg, shadowmaster, I have a great idea, youu could do me a HUGE favour....
20100710 05:21:40< PetePorty> would you host my server?
20100710 05:21:47< PetePorty> pleeeeeeease?
20100710 05:22:48< PetePorty> u wouldn't have to do anything...
20100710 05:22:56< PetePorty> just open a cmd...
20100710 05:23:08< PetePorty> I already have everything set up
20100710 05:23:11< PetePorty> :)
20100710 05:23:16< PetePorty> pleeeeeease?
20100710 05:24:09< shadowmaster> no
20100710 05:24:13< shadowmaster> and I don't have a permanent IP
20100710 05:27:44< Aethaeryn> PetePorty: I can host something for you if you pay my Internet bill.
20100710 05:27:55< PetePorty> :(
20100710 05:28:13< Aethaeryn> I have a very powerful desktop, but I don't want to pay extra to get an internet connection that could truly host things...
20100710 05:28:23< Aethaeryn> but this offer is open to anyone... pay my bill I'll host your stuff.
20100710 05:28:24< PetePorty> Ae, I don't pay mine, so I guess that is out of question...
20100710 05:28:46< Aethaeryn> I suppose
20100710 05:28:54< Aethaeryn> but paying for just the Internet is probably cheaper than getting a dedicated host.
20100710 05:29:01< Aethaeryn> Especially if you split it with someone else.
20100710 05:29:06< shadowmaster> Aethæryn. Not Ae.
20100710 05:29:16< shadowmaster> also known as Aethaeryn due to ircd and forum limitations.
20100710 05:29:48< ancestral> (or Æthæryn)
20100710 05:30:17< shadowmaster> Æthæryn indeed.
20100710 05:30:20< Aethaeryn> Æthæryn
20100710 05:30:20< Aethaeryn> yeah
20100710 05:30:27< ancestral> Hehe
20100710 05:30:31< PetePorty> Ae<Tab>
20100710 05:30:38 * shadowmaster misses Espreon.
20100710 05:30:39< Aethaeryn> maybe ÆÞæryn?
20100710 05:30:40< ancestral> PetePorty: So I pay $60 a year
20100710 05:30:52< Aethaeryn> yeah, I think according to Espreon it would be ÆÞæryn
20100710 05:31:08< PetePorty> ...
20100710 05:31:15< shadowmaster> Aethaeryn: screw that. Let's write it in runes.
20100710 05:31:18< Aethaeryn> oh sorry, that's capital
20100710 05:31:20< shadowmaster> except that I don't know runes.
20100710 05:31:26< Aethaeryn> Æþæryn
20100710 05:31:26< ancestral> PetePorty: I have 10 GB with 2500 GB transfer
20100710 05:31:37< ancestral> wait
20100710 05:31:43< PetePorty> Ancestral: no.
20100710 05:31:55< ancestral> What I'm saying is
20100710 05:32:04< Aethaeryn> PetePorty: there's no such thing as a free lunch.
20100710 05:32:06< ancestral> Cheap web hosting is available
20100710 05:32:08< PetePorty> Gambit was willing to do it for free, but he has the same problem I do...
20100710 05:32:10< Aethaeryn> Unless you are good friends, it's not free.
20100710 05:32:21< ancestral> What's that?
20100710 05:32:24< Aethaeryn> And I actually was IRC-friends with a guy who ran a web hosting site once.
20100710 05:32:30< Aethaeryn> So I hosted a forum for free.
20100710 05:32:35< Aethaeryn> :-)
20100710 05:32:47< shadowmaster> loely
20100710 05:32:52< Aethaeryn> But I was kinda the shadowmaster figure of a channel once.
20100710 05:32:57< PetePorty> none of us can forward port...
20100710 05:33:00< Aethaeryn> Founder of a small-ish IRC chan, got to know all the regulars.
20100710 05:33:01< shadowmaster> any of you would donate to me a server with root access?
20100710 05:33:03< Aethaeryn> So he could truts me.
20100710 05:33:05< shadowmaster> :P
20100710 05:33:09< ancestral> PetePorty: What port?
20100710 05:33:10< Aethaeryn> *trust
20100710 05:33:11< ancestral> Also
20100710 05:33:21< ancestral> WTF your name is "Pete PORT y"
20100710 05:33:25< PetePorty> 25565
20100710 05:33:32< Aethaeryn> There is no port y
20100710 05:33:34< PetePorty> ;)
20100710 05:33:37< shadowmaster> yet better, donate me a domain name
20100710 05:33:41< ancestral>  y is a variable
20100710 05:33:44< Aethaeryn> right
20100710 05:33:48< ancestral> Which can be set to 25565
20100710 05:33:51< Aethaeryn> u-z are variables.
20100710 05:33:59< ancestral> Exactly!
20100710 05:34:05< Aethaeryn> woah, someone agreed with me on that.
20100710 05:34:07< Aethaeryn> cool.
20100710 05:34:08< shadowmaster> ancestral: btw, how's the bestiary doing?
20100710 05:34:08< ancestral> Haha
20100710 05:34:13< Aethaeryn> ancestral: I personally like using u
20100710 05:34:19< Aethaeryn> when I get to pick a variable.
20100710 05:34:21< Aethaeryn> x, u, z
20100710 05:34:23< ancestral> shadowmaster: It's doing stagnantly
20100710 05:34:28-!- PetePorty is now known as PeterPORT25565
20100710 05:34:28< Aethaeryn> I don't like how y goes over onto the next line.
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20100710 05:34:48< ancestral> I'd love to devote more time to it
20100710 05:34:53< ancestral> I want to
20100710 05:34:58< ancestral> I'm moving for next month
20100710 05:35:03< ancestral> Problem is I don't know where yet
20100710 05:35:14< ancestral> I want to love a place but I'm having a hard time doing so
20100710 05:35:26< ancestral> Going to see two places on Monday
20100710 05:35:32< Aethaeryn> nice
20100710 05:35:41< norbert_> weird, I downloaded trunk and the mage their falls forward
20100710 05:35:43< ancestral> Yeah, a little stressed from it
20100710 05:35:48< Aethaeryn> Appleman1234 uses Linux. crimson_penguin uses Mac OS X.
20100710 05:35:53< norbert_> I'm really curious why this didn't make it http://forum.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=351975#p351975
20100710 05:35:55< Aethaeryn> Those guys need to trade nicks.
20100710 05:36:00< ancestral> Aethaeryn: Ironic, right?
20100710 05:36:16< PeterPORT25565> LOL
20100710 05:36:18< ancestral> And
20100710 05:36:21< Aethaeryn> Yes. CTCP VERSION is useful too
20100710 05:36:27< ancestral> PeterPORT25565 can't port 25565
20100710 05:36:29< ancestral> Also ironic
20100710 05:36:38< PeterPORT25565> yeah...
20100710 05:36:46< PeterPORT25565> sadly-ironic
20100710 05:36:46< shadowmaster> norbert_: he may have forgotten it
20100710 05:36:49< shadowmaster> I'll post in his thread
20100710 05:37:01< PeterPORT25565> ironicly-sad
20100710 05:37:05< norbert_> shadowmaster: ok :)
20100710 05:37:21 * ancestral wonders if an app in his cpanel would allow for such a port
20100710 05:38:17< PeterPORT25565> I'm so mad....
20100710 05:39:23< crimson_penguin> Aethaeryn: I like penguins; I don't think I even knew about Tux when I started using penguin-related nicks :P
20100710 05:39:31< crimson_penguin> and I bet Appleman1234 just likes apples!
20100710 05:39:41< PeterPORT25565> or men....
20100710 05:40:23< PeterPORT25565> :D
20100710 05:41:34< ancestral> or women
20100710 05:41:36< ancestral> or aliens
20100710 05:41:39< ancestral> or cheese
20100710 05:41:47 * ancestral likes cheese
20100710 05:42:11< Aethaeryn> crimson_penguin: I also like penguins.
20100710 05:42:23< Aethaeryn> crimson_penguin: Are you one of those people, like myself, who liked penguins before they were popular?
20100710 05:42:28< ancestral> PeterPORT25565: http://www.cpanel.net/2007/06/getting-the-most-out-of-your-systems-firewall.html
20100710 05:42:31< crimson_penguin> totally
20100710 05:42:35< Aethaeryn> Yup.
20100710 05:42:40< crimson_penguin> well, I liked them before I Knew they were popular at least
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20100710 05:42:45< crimson_penguin> I was fairly young
20100710 05:42:50< shadowmaster> I like cats.
20100710 05:43:03< Aethaeryn> Between March of the Penguins and the Madagascar penguins (who now have a TV show called "Penguins of Madagascar")...
20100710 05:43:04< shadowmaster> I also like dolphins and squirrels.
20100710 05:43:08< Aethaeryn> Penguins now are very popular.
20100710 05:43:14< ancestral> And… unicorns?
20100710 05:43:39< PeterPORT25565> shadowmaster, I love squirrels
20100710 05:43:50< PeterPORT25565> ancestrak, wth? link?
20100710 05:43:58< Aethaeryn> crimson_penguin: Not just Linux, either. They're everywhere.
20100710 05:44:12< Aethaeryn> In fact, that was my facebook status a while back. "I liked penguins before they were popular."
20100710 05:44:33< Aethaeryn> I just hope fame didn't go to their heads.
20100710 05:44:38< Aethaeryn> They're getting too mainstream.
20100710 05:45:52< ancestral> PeterPORT25565: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/firewalls-ipfw.html
20100710 05:45:58< ancestral> I think the answer is in there
20100710 05:46:14< PeterPORT25565> it is not
20100710 05:46:22< ancestral> What are you trying to do?
20100710 05:46:29< crimson_penguin> Aethaeryn: oh, indeed
20100710 05:46:30< ancestral> Forward one port to what?
20100710 05:46:36< PeterPORT25565> I know how to do it, I actually did it, but I don't have admin priviledges over my router.
20100710 05:46:47< ancestral> Aethaeryn: Pandas are also popular
20100710 05:46:48< PeterPORT25565> that's it...
20100710 05:47:00< shadowmaster> PeterPORT25565: get someone to do it for you?
20100710 05:47:01< shadowmaster> who ocontrols the router?
20100710 05:47:06< ancestral> You don't have admin privileges over your router?
20100710 05:47:07< ancestral> wth
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20100710 05:47:12< Aethaeryn> ancestral: Yeah, but they're disappearing... so... popularity won't be a problem for pandas forever.
20100710 05:47:15< ancestral> Reset the router
20100710 05:47:21< PeterPORT25565> I mean... when I try to acces it, I can't
20100710 05:47:23< Aethaeryn> Penguins, on the other hand, are probably going to outlive humans.
20100710 05:47:26< PeterPORT25565> it says the pass is wrong
20100710 05:47:32< ancestral> Reset the router
20100710 05:47:37< PeterPORT25565> I tried reseting to default and it didn't work
20100710 05:47:42< ancestral> It should
20100710 05:47:47< ancestral> What kind of router do you have?
20100710 05:47:49< PeterPORT25565> I contacted d-link
20100710 05:47:52< ancestral> D-Link
20100710 05:47:53< ancestral> k
20100710 05:47:54< Aethaeryn> ancestral: When the nuclear war comes, most humans will be obliterated, but no one will think to nuke Antarctica (or Australia, but that's another story)
20100710 05:48:00< PeterPORT25565> d-link dir-615
20100710 05:48:17< ancestral> Aethaeryn: Or most of the oceans
20100710 05:48:17< CookieBite> why not australia?
20100710 05:48:35< Aethaeryn> It's very out of the way.
20100710 05:48:43< Aethaeryn> It's like if Canada were an island in the middle of nowhere.
20100710 05:49:05< Aethaeryn> Someone might remember Canada because of its proximity to the US, or Canada might just be radiated by the winds or w/e
20100710 05:49:26< Aethaeryn> But who would remember to nuke Australia and New Zealand?
20100710 05:49:36< ancestral> Historically, South America has been rather quiet in World Wars, right?
20100710 05:50:00< Aethaeryn> Exactly. What would be the least affected? The Southern Hemisphere.
20100710 05:50:03< ancestral> PeterPORT25565: "Pressing the Reset button restores the router to its original factory default settings."
20100710 05:50:07< Aethaeryn> Where is the only place where penguins live? The Southern Hemisphere.
20100710 05:50:17< Aethaeryn> shadowmaster: Have you seen any Humboldt penguins?
20100710 05:50:23< Aethaeryn> They live in Chile and Peru along the coasts.
20100710 05:50:25< PeterPORT25565> ancestral, I know, but it doesn't work
20100710 05:50:27< Aethaeryn> I did a report on them once.
20100710 05:50:33< shadowmaster> Aethaeryn: no.
20100710 05:50:43< Aethaeryn> OMFG.
20100710 05:50:45< shadowmaster> I think I saw them when I was a child.
20100710 05:50:55< shadowmaster> but I wouldn't remember.
20100710 05:51:00< Aethaeryn> If I went to Chile the first thing I'd do is go up and down the coast to look for penguins.
20100710 05:51:09< shadowmaster> good luck
20100710 05:51:10< Aethaeryn> Wouldn't take too long to go up and down the coast of *Chile* anyway.
20100710 05:51:15< ancestral> PeterPORT25565: "The default IP address is 192.168.0.1. When logging in, the username is admin and leave the password box empty."
20100710 05:51:17< shadowmaster> gas is expensive, you know?
20100710 05:51:31< PeterPORT25565> I know, it says pass is wrong
20100710 05:51:38< Aethaeryn> ancestral: no
20100710 05:51:44< Aethaeryn> the password is "admin"
20100710 05:51:47< ancestral> No
20100710 05:51:50< Aethaeryn> it's "admin"/"admin"
20100710 05:51:53< ancestral> http://static.highspeedbackbone.net/pdf/D-Link-DIR-615-Manual.pdf
20100710 05:51:54< PeterPORT25565> Aethaeryn, no, it is blank
20100710 05:51:56< ancestral> Owned
20100710 05:52:03< Aethaeryn> ok
20100710 05:52:07< ancestral> Haha
20100710 05:52:07< Aethaeryn> sorry, thinking of Linksys
20100710 05:52:20< ancestral> Routers are very different
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20100710 05:52:25< ancestral> from model to model
20100710 05:52:25< PeterPORT25565> anyway, I also tried admin, and Admin, all a bunch of times...
20100710 05:52:29< PeterPORT25565> nothing worked...
20100710 05:52:40< aethPORT7000> the secure way to connect to Freenode :-)
20100710 05:53:09< PeterPORT25565> brb...
20100710 05:53:13< ancestral> "To reset the router, locate the reset button (hole) on the rear panel of the unit. With the router powered on, use a paperclip to hold the button down for 10 seconds. Release the button and the router will go through its reboot process. Wait about 30 seconds to access the router. The default IP address is 192.168.0.1. When logging in, the username is admin and leave the password box empty."
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20100710 05:54:08< aethPORT7000> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humboldt_Penguin
20100710 05:54:18< aethPORT7000> And they exist in northern Chile.
20100710 05:54:33< aethPORT7000> Though the report I wrote in elementary school is probably longer than that article.
20100710 05:54:59< aethPORT7000> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magellanic_Penguin
20100710 05:55:02< aethPORT7000> And that's southern Chile.
20100710 05:55:18< aethPORT7000> shadowmaster: OMFG. You live in a penguin paradise and you've seen neither the Humboldt nor the Magellanic?
20100710 05:55:33< CookieBite> aethPORT7000: otters are cuter in my opinion :P
20100710 05:55:37 * shadowmaster slaps aethPORT7000 
20100710 05:55:45< shadowmaster> aethPORT7000: get his through your head.
20100710 05:55:45< shadowmaster> I don't live in the coast
20100710 05:56:07< aethPORT7000> shadowmaster: Chile has non-coastal areas?
20100710 05:56:09< shadowmaster> I live in the central valley
20100710 05:56:18< aethPORT7000> Booo...
20100710 05:56:23< shadowmaster> aethPORT7000: please, go check the wikipedia article.
20100710 05:56:24< shadowmaster> thanks
20100710 05:56:28< aethPORT7000> Center and non-coastal. Just about the only way you don't see penguins.
20100710 05:57:40< aethPORT7000> shadowmaster: You should try to cross-breed Humboldt and Magellanic penguins on the central coastal region of Chile.
20100710 05:57:52< shadowmaster> central valley.
20100710 05:57:58< aethPORT7000> So move to the shore?
20100710 05:58:03< aethPORT7000> Or get a big swimming pool?
20100710 05:58:03< shadowmaster> I'm really far from the coast.
20100710 05:58:38< CookieBite> or start a zoo program :X
20100710 05:58:50< aethPORT7000> but yeah, if I lived in central Chile, I'd do that.
20100710 05:59:14< aethPORT7000> cross-breed Humboldt (northern Chile and Peru) and Magellanic (southern Chile and Argentina) penguins 
20100710 05:59:50< shadowmaster> aethPORT7000: you don't happen to have Google Earth installed there, do you?
20100710 06:00:16< shadowmaster> or you could get the coordinates for Google Maps.
20100710 06:00:18< aethPORT7000> shadowmaster: not at the moment... errors installing it on my desktop (which has a good graphics card)
20100710 06:00:22< aethPORT7000> but...
20100710 06:00:25< shadowmaster> for Santiago de Chile
20100710 06:00:26< aethPORT7000> technically my program would be illegal
20100710 06:00:31< aethPORT7000> since both species of penguins are threatened.
20100710 06:00:32< shadowmaster> Google Maps just works on the web browser
20100710 06:01:28< aethPORT7000> shadowmaster: you're 150 km from coast at the most
20100710 06:01:31< aethPORT7000> if I read the legend right
20100710 06:01:52< shadowmaster> that's a lot of space, separated by tall mountains
20100710 06:01:53< shadowmaster> well, not too tall, but tall nonetheless
20100710 06:02:17< aethPORT7000> I'm just about the same distance from the ocean, maybe more like 100-125km
20100710 06:02:20< aethPORT7000> and I consider myself coastal.
20100710 06:02:40< aethPORT7000> granted, there's a bay between me and the shore, but the bay's still pretty far away
20100710 06:02:44< CookieBite> aethPORT7000: do you live in Chile/ Peru? 
20100710 06:02:49< aethPORT7000> oh what the difference the topography of a country makes
20100710 06:03:29< aethPORT7000> CookieBite: Maryland.
20100710 06:03:33< PeterPORT25565> Peru is a high country
20100710 06:03:43< aethPORT7000> My GNOME logo is a penguin.
20100710 06:03:45< PeterPORT25565> and it's full of peruvians...
20100710 06:03:46< aethPORT7000> An emperor penguin.
20100710 06:03:52< aethPORT7000> That's how much I like penguins, I can identify the species.
20100710 06:03:57< CookieBite> ahh 
20100710 06:04:03< aethPORT7000> I was obsessed with penguins as a kid, had all the books, even a shirt with the different species.
20100710 06:04:09< shadowmaster> CookieBite: it's me who lives in Chile.
20100710 06:04:17< CookieBite> i figured that :)
20100710 06:04:18< shadowmaster> in case there was any confusion
20100710 06:04:27< shadowmaster> aethPORT7000: please change your nickname now, it hurts my eyes
20100710 06:04:31< aethPORT7000> And to live in a country with at least two native penguin species plentiful among the coasts... and to not visit the penguins monthly...
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20100710 06:04:41< Aethaeryn> that's just a waste :-(
20100710 06:05:48< Aethaeryn> Living in the center is even more reason to visit them, because then you can alternate which species you visit.
20100710 06:06:34< Aethaeryn> "birdwatching" takes on a whole new meaning when they're penguins.
20100710 06:07:05< Aethaeryn> shadowmaster: And to think, you have an opportunity only few have, since most penguins are in Antarctica.
20100710 06:07:18< ancestral> So PeterPORT25565 ya figure it out yet?
20100710 06:07:27< PeterPORT25565> nope....
20100710 06:08:12< CookieBite> i have fairy penguins in my coastline areas xD
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20100710 06:11:42< Aethaeryn> http://www.defenders.org/images/factsheets/range/RangeMap__Penguin_550x400.jpg
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20100710 06:21:23< PeterPORT25565> ok, I'll just call d-link on monday....
20100710 06:21:32< ancestral> Dang
20100710 06:21:35< PeterPORT25565> and threaten them...
20100710 06:21:46< PeterPORT25565> c ya guys.... sleep weell
20100710 06:21:48< ancestral> PeterPORT25565: Any reason you need the router?
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20100710 06:21:55< ancestral> What if you just bypassed it…
20100710 06:21:58 * ancestral shrugs
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20100710 07:42:13< Appleman1234> Aethaeryn, why is that ?
20100710 07:42:24< Appleman1234> Aethaeryn, my name isn't related to the company or the fruit
20100710 07:42:36< Aethaeryn> Appleman1234: I was just saying you should trade with crimson_penguin that's all
20100710 07:42:51< Appleman1234> lol
20100710 07:42:52< Aethaeryn> just a funny coincidence "apple" uses Linux and "penguin" uses Mac OS X
20100710 07:42:53< Aethaeryn> that's all
20100710 07:43:04< Appleman1234> it is a little bit fun
20100710 07:43:09< Appleman1234> ny*
20100710 07:43:13< Aethaeryn> but you should have invested in that fruit company.
20100710 07:43:18< Appleman1234> lol
20100710 07:43:24< Aethaeryn> it's the one tech stock that's done way better since the tech bubble burst
20100710 07:43:26< Aethaeryn> or one of the few
20100710 07:43:27< shadowmaster> what does appleman refer to?
20100710 07:44:10< Appleman1234> my mishearing of the barenaked ladies song one week song lyrics, you think you're feeling like aquaman, I heard appleman, and the name stuck 
20100710 07:44:21< crimson_penguin> ahaha
20100710 07:44:26< crimson_penguin> nice
20100710 07:44:31< Aethaeryn> This looks like a job for Appleman!
20100710 07:44:36< Appleman1234> lol
20100710 07:44:51< shadowmaster> he who can talk to apple trees
20100710 07:44:58< Appleman1234> which patches do I need to fix, I currently don't have m
20100710 07:45:09< Appleman1234> y wesnoth multi-install setup properly
20100710 07:45:16< Appleman1234> as I am recompiling my compiler
20100710 07:45:46< Appleman1234> at present I just have stable release installed, although my overlay has the development and svn releases
20100710 07:45:48< Appleman1234> lol
20100710 07:45:54< shadowmaster> heresy, compilers are blackboxes which should never be fiddled with, let alone recompiled.
20100710 07:46:30< shadowmaster> same goes to the C runtime libraries, but for some reason not the system kernel
20100710 07:46:44< Appleman1234> shadowmaster, when you run gentoo and mpfr update breaks the library linking of the compiler, it is just par for the course
20100710 07:47:33 * shadowmaster embraces binary distributions.
20100710 07:49:57< Appleman1234> now that I am basically finished my studies I should resetup my wesnoth multiple installation and start bugfixing
20100710 07:50:13< Appleman1234> given my knowledge of c++, python, and wml I really have no excuses
20100710 07:51:10< shadowmaster> python has got nothing to do with wesnoth
20100710 07:51:39< Appleman1234> shadowmaster, good
20100710 07:52:15< Appleman1234> shadowmaster, at one point there was some ai being in written in python, but I guess that has taken the lua path now ...
20100710 07:53:49< shadowmaster> python got dropped indeed
20100710 07:54:16< Appleman1234> thanks for the update
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20100710 08:01:42< crimson_penguin> so, anyone else with iPod Touches or iPhones wanna test Frogatto? :D
20100710 08:02:29< Appleman1234> what is frogatto ? I don't have any apple software, but I know a few people that do ....
20100710 08:02:40< crimson_penguin> www.frogatto.com
20100710 08:03:27< Aethaeryn> but you should have invested in that fruit company.
20100710 08:03:33< Aethaeryn> damn it.
20100710 08:03:37< Aethaeryn> I hit the up button as I pressed enter
20100710 08:03:40< Aethaeryn> Appleman1234: but do you have Apple hardware?
20100710 08:03:40< crimson_penguin> heh
20100710 08:03:55< Aethaeryn> I used to do it a lot more on this keyboard but I've gotten better at dodging it
20100710 08:04:04< Appleman1234> Aethaeryn, no...
20100710 08:06:29< Appleman1234> crimson_penguin, hmm, to recommend to the over 25 people I know that have apple iphones or not ...
20100710 08:06:58< crimson_penguin> Appleman1234: well note, it's not released to the app store - we're just looking for testers
20100710 08:07:19< crimson_penguin> so they'd get it for free, and then we hope they would play it and give feedback
20100710 08:07:35< crimson_penguin> we're hoping to submit it to the app store very, very soon though
20100710 08:09:41< Appleman1234> crimson_penguin, oh ok, I will email someone I know that is currently doing some hobby iphone game development and ask them if they want to test it ....
20100710 08:09:50< Appleman1234> if that is ok with you ?
20100710 08:11:12< crimson_penguin> yeah, just one thing though: for people to test, they have to give me their UDID; any developer probably knows how to get that, but for normal people...
20100710 08:11:47< crimson_penguin> you have to go to the device in iTunes, click on the serial number, then ctrl+c or cmd+c to copy (it won't let you select it, but it'll copy if you press the command)
20100710 08:12:01< Appleman1234> I was only going to ask the one individual I know that was developing for that reason
20100710 08:12:03< crimson_penguin> and then just email it to ... well, devteam@frogatto.com I suppose :)
20100710 08:12:09< Appleman1234> ok
20100710 08:14:19< crimson_penguin> thanks
20100710 08:15:22< Appleman1234> figured that they might be not only able to find bugs, but possibly also submit patches as well
20100710 08:16:25< crimson_penguin> that's possible, but probably most things would be easier for us to fix
20100710 08:17:12< Appleman1234> oh ok
20100710 08:19:13< crimson_penguin> Sirp, founder of Wesnoth, is our main programmer btw
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20100710 08:19:57< Appleman1234> I noticed on the about page  ....
20100710 08:20:45< Appleman1234> crimson_penguin, email sent, if it leads to a tester, then it leads to a tester
20100710 08:21:02< crimson_penguin> cool, thanks :)
20100710 08:21:11< Appleman1234> your welcome
20100710 08:21:31< crimson_penguin> hmm, so you could be Penguinman1234, and I could be crimson_apple :P
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20100710 08:27:52< crimson_penguin> and I'm going to bed now; goodnight
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20100710 08:28:22< Appleman1234> lol
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20100710 09:30:24< Unnheulu> Wow, 23 new revisions in under 12 hours
20100710 09:30:35< Unnheulu> *24
20100710 09:37:39< sevis> Xmoto, or Wesnoth?
20100710 09:38:02< Unnheulu> Wesnoth
20100710 09:38:16< Unnheulu> Xmoto doesn't have many revisions a month (inactive maintainer)
20100710 09:38:28< sevis> Ah, okay. Still don't have commit access there?
20100710 09:38:30< Unnheulu> Moat killed himself
20100710 09:38:38< Unnheulu> sevis, he keeps that solely for himself
20100710 09:38:50< Unnheulu> He doesn't trust anyone else to do code nice enough for him ;)
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20100710 09:40:15< sevis> Heh.
20100710 09:40:19< sevis> By the way, thank for reminding.
20100710 09:40:23 * sevis commits.
20100710 09:41:22< Unnheulu> What project>
20100710 09:41:22< Unnheulu> ?
20100710 09:41:53< sevis> My processor thing.
20100710 09:42:07< Unnheulu> Something personal then :P
20100710 09:42:18< sevis> It's a school project.
20100710 09:42:32< Unnheulu> Kay :)
20100710 09:42:41< sevis> So I'm not allowed to invite more people to join in. :(
20100710 09:43:01< sevis> But the C compiler and kernel will be public projects.
20100710 09:45:17< Unnheulu> 25new commits
20100710 09:45:24 * Unnheulu is still compiling the 24th
20100710 09:45:40< Unnheulu> s/compiling/compiled/
20100710 09:45:58< sevis> Which build system are you using?
20100710 09:46:32< Unnheulu> Huh?
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20100710 09:47:33< Unnheulu> Build system, do you me like scons cmake or autotools?
20100710 09:47:36< sevis> As far as I know, Wesnoth supports CMake, scons and autotools. Which one are you using to build?
20100710 09:47:44< Unnheulu> Ah, autotools
20100710 09:48:16< sevis> Hm, okay.
20100710 09:48:24< Unnheulu> Simplest :P
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20100710 09:57:40< Ivanovic> moin
20100710 10:03:42< Unnheulu> Ah
20100710 10:03:51< Unnheulu> It seems we have a bot
20100710 10:04:51< Unnheulu> A spamming bot
20100710 10:05:56< Unnheulu> How much longer will he last then, I wonder
20100710 10:06:29< pyshee> you're being quite mysterious
20100710 10:06:35< pyshee> or i'm not smart at all
20100710 10:06:40< pyshee> i believe it to be the latter.
20100710 10:25:00< Unnheulu> wesnoth.org/forum
20100710 10:25:09< Unnheulu> Ivanovic or shadowmaster have probably banned it by now though
20100710 10:25:33< Unnheulu> Ivanovic banned it 8 minutes ago
20100710 10:25:58< pyshee> could you explain what "it" is?
20100710 10:26:14< Unnheulu> A spam bot on the forums
20100710 10:26:24< pyshee> i see..
20100710 10:26:36< pyshee> that makes more sense now.
20100710 10:26:43< pyshee> i thought you were talking about in IRC :D
20100710 10:26:49< Unnheulu> =]
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20100710 10:37:02< Unnheulu> pyshee, only 2am in the morning, I guess?
20100710 10:37:14< pyshee> yep
20100710 10:37:25< pyshee> not late at all.
20100710 10:37:25 * Unnheulu feels all grotty
20100710 10:37:26< pyshee> xd
20100710 10:37:29< Unnheulu> I hate waking up
20100710 10:38:42< Unnheulu> Eww ice mountain->chasm transition is ugly
20100710 10:38:56 * Unnheulu decided to check it out after eleazer said he was working on it
20100710 10:40:15< Unnheulu> Blarumyrran, roofs a bit pink?
20100710 11:05:44< Blarumyrran> what
20100710 11:07:10< Blarumyrran> My roofs are grey like good old asbestosful eternit is
20100710 11:07:46< grzywacz> eternal eternit
20100710 11:11:59< Unnheulu> The new village
20100710 11:13:57< Blarumyrran> I was told they should be glossy, and glossy red is pink
20100710 11:15:55< Unnheulu> The pink just seems to bright imo
20100710 11:16:07 * Unnheulu points out he isn't the artist
20100710 11:16:14< Unnheulu> he being Unnheulu
20100710 11:18:40< Unnheulu> Blarumyrran, are you on svn?
20100710 11:18:51< Blarumyrran> In what sense
20100710 11:18:58< Unnheulu> Are you running it
20100710 11:19:36< Blarumyrran> I'm not running a svn client right now
20100710 11:19:49< Unnheulu> Have you seen your villages ingame then :P
20100710 11:20:02< Blarumyrran> Yes well that went by the ancient method of
20100710 11:20:09< Blarumyrran> writing over old village files
20100710 11:20:23< Unnheulu> So not on eleazers new cobble?
20100710 11:20:26< Unnheulu> It looks wicked :)
20100710 11:20:31< Blarumyrran> No
20100710 11:21:14< Blarumyrran> But I did have the new stoney terrains with small tiles in mind
20100710 11:21:42< Blarumyrran> (cobblestones & bridges)
20100710 11:22:06< Unnheulu> Bridges don't work properly in svn :(
20100710 11:22:13< Unnheulu> And atlantaria's aren't commited
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20100710 17:44:07< Aethaeryn> Fuck Yahoo.
20100710 17:44:32< Aethaeryn> I don't want anything to do with it, yet this is the third (maybe fourth) time spammers have abused it to sign me up to their "group" so that I can get spam messages in Chinese.
20100710 17:44:51< Aethaeryn> Yahoo Groups is the stupidest thing ever because you can subscribe people without their permission who don't even have a Yahoo account.
20100710 17:44:53< Zerovirus> Hahahaha
20100710 17:44:57< Zerovirus> Spam them back, I'll translate
20100710 17:45:06< Aethaeryn> So you'll wind up with a gmail or a hotmail email...
20100710 17:45:16< Aethaeryn> that can't edit preferences without linking to a yahoo account.
20100710 17:45:31< Aethaeryn> And the default preference is to allow others to subscribe you, which means more spammers than not probably use this feature.
20100710 17:45:40< Aethaeryn> Since this way they use Yahoo's own servers to spam.
20100710 17:46:03< Aethaeryn> So basically you just have to reply "unsubscribe" twice every time yahoo groups sends you an email.
20100710 17:46:15< Aethaeryn> Zerovirus: sorry, this time I unsubscribed before I got any messages.
20100710 17:46:42< Zerovirus> Eh, half the time I'd just sum it up into "screw you" anyways. I'm lazy like that.
20100710 17:46:47< Aethaeryn> Usually, you get the messages themselves in the spam folder, but the yahoo group "you've been subscribed" goes through to the inbox.
20100710 17:47:01< Aethaeryn> But yeah.
20100710 17:47:09< Aethaeryn> Yahoo is the most idiotic technology company ever.
20100710 17:47:34< Aethaeryn> They could have been Google, since they were there first, and had the advantage of mindshare (and still have way more emails than Google because of legacy reasons, it's a pain to change emails)
20100710 17:47:52< Aethaeryn> And yet, while Google's done everything great, Yahoo's done everything awful.
20100710 17:48:08< Aethaeryn> Google Talk (integrated with Gmail) probably has more users than Yahoo IM.
20100710 17:48:15< Aethaeryn> Since Yahoo IM never took off.
20100710 17:48:36< Aethaeryn> And now this really stupid yahoo groups thing.
20100710 17:49:13< Aethaeryn> "Sign people on non-Yahoo emails up to a mailing list without their permission, and you have to link to a yahoo ID/email if you want to turn this default function off. No one will abuse it. It will definitely have more legitimate uses than illegitimate."
20100710 17:49:23< Zerovirus> I wonder why you're ranting here :P
20100710 17:49:29< Zerovirus> Instead of in something like #yahoo or something
20100710 17:49:31< Aethaeryn> Because having people email Yahoo twice "unsubscribe" is probably going to happen less often than people confirming a subscription.
20100710 17:49:33< Zerovirus> Does that even exist?
20100710 17:49:50< Aethaeryn> Right.
20100710 17:50:04< Aethaeryn> Well, I just can't wait until Yahoo dies as a company.
20100710 17:50:05< Zerovirus> Hm. No, no it does not.
20100710 17:50:21< Aethaeryn> Though since Microsoft is still around after a decade of mostly-blunders... Yahoo might die with the heat death of the universe.
20100710 17:50:27< Zerovirus> Eh, all the cool internet concepts have an IRC channel.
20100710 17:50:32< Zerovirus> #microsof
20100710 17:50:37< Zerovirus> #microsoft
20100710 17:50:47< Zerovirus> Oh hey look there's 2 people in #microsoft
20100710 17:50:50< Zerovirus> me and some other dude
20100710 17:51:12< Aethaeryn> there's 32 people in #google
20100710 17:51:20< Aethaeryn> and 474 people in Android
20100710 17:51:23< Aethaeryn> #android
20100710 17:51:28< Zerovirus> #apple
20100710 17:51:31< Aethaeryn> projects > companies
20100710 17:51:40< Aethaeryn> Zerovirus: ##apple has 75 people
20100710 17:51:43< Zerovirus> Holy shit there's a lot of apple users
20100710 17:51:52< Aethaeryn> But that's really nothing
20100710 17:51:57< Aethaeryn> Ubuntu has 1416 people
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20100710 17:52:13< Zerovirus> I wonder if #christianity exists?
20100710 17:52:19< Aethaeryn> this is freenode.
20100710 17:52:24< Zerovirus> Nope, it doesn't/
20100710 17:52:29< Aethaeryn> unless that's a hardware/software company or a software project
20100710 17:52:33< Aethaeryn> it probably doesn't exist on *freenode*
20100710 17:52:34< Zerovirus> [10:52] == ChanServ [ChanServ@services.] has joined #christianity
20100710 17:52:36< Zerovirus> And then
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20100710 17:53:00< Zerovirus> IRC has left christianity to its own ends >.>
20100710 17:53:13< Aethaeryn> I think #ubuntu is the largest...
20100710 17:53:16< Aethaeryn> 1416
20100710 17:53:27< Aethaeryn> Zerovirus: if you want a #christianity you probably want a non-techie network.
20100710 17:53:52< Aethaeryn> unless ChristianityToday.com (or whatever the URL is, don't go there since I didn't check) or something starts an IRC channel.
20100710 17:54:14< Aethaeryn> ##linux has 906
20100710 17:54:30< Aethaeryn> ##windows has 385, which is 2 less than #fedora
20100710 17:54:53< Aethaeryn> woah
20100710 17:54:57< Aethaeryn> #archlinux has 857
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20100710 17:55:20< Zerovirus> What's archlinux?
20100710 17:55:26< Blarumyrran> 90+ % of linux users are arch users!
20100710 17:56:01< Aethaeryn> and 156% are Ubuntu users.
20100710 17:56:06< Zerovirus> And 100% of Zeroviruses have no tech knowledge at all, especially about Linux
20100710 17:56:14< Aethaeryn> Zerovirus: distrowatch
20100710 17:56:20< Aethaeryn> http://distrowatch.com/
20100710 17:56:28< Aethaeryn> be familiar with the top 20
20100710 17:56:29 * PetePorty is a crappy ubuntu user
20100710 17:56:34< Aethaeryn> and RHEL
20100710 17:56:36< Blarumyrran> Zerovirus, have you player Heroes of Might and Magic?
20100710 17:56:42< Blarumyrran> played*
20100710 17:56:43< Aethaeryn> RHEL will never be top 20 because you have to pay for it
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20100710 17:57:13< Zerovirus> Nope
20100710 17:57:14< Blarumyrran> In homm2, 3 and 5, you could upgrade a Mage to an Archmage
20100710 17:57:22< Aethaeryn> Zerovirus: Though I think the usage significantly decreases as you go down.
20100710 17:57:29< Aethaeryn> A "long tail" of distros, you might say.
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20100710 17:58:03< Aethaeryn> As in, maybe as high as 30%-40% of Linux users (and 75% of Linux press/documentation) is Ubuntu.
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20100710 17:58:07< Aethaeryn> And maybe half that in Fedora, and so on.
20100710 17:58:17< Aethaeryn> And Gentoo probably doesn't have that many compared to Ubuntu.
20100710 17:58:38< Aethaeryn> and by the time you get down to #48 Super OS I don't think anyone's heard of it
20100710 17:58:48< Blarumyrran> I'd try it, just for the name
20100710 17:59:18< Zerovirus> And now I'm getting into territory that I'm not comfortable in
20100710 17:59:22< Blarumyrran> Super OS (formerly: Super Ubuntu) is just a modified version of Ubuntu 9.10 (see: Super OS and Ubuntu) with the goal of making it more usable and trying to remain compatible with Ubuntu.
20100710 17:59:40< Aethaeryn> just like 75% of Linux press/documentation is Ubuntu...
20100710 17:59:43< Blarumyrran> It has modified from Ubuntu to gain compatibility with Ubuntu
20100710 17:59:44< Aethaeryn> 75% of Linux distros are Ubuntu forks.
20100710 17:59:59< Aethaeryn> Whether official like a *ubuntu (kubuntu for instance)
20100710 18:00:01< Aethaeryn> or unofficial
20100710 18:00:04< Blarumyrran> They aren't linux distros
20100710 18:00:19< Aethaeryn> Kubuntu is listed on its own on distrowatch
20100710 18:00:28< Aethaeryn> as #22
20100710 18:00:36< Aethaeryn> If the KDE spin of Fedora was listed on its own, it'd probably be in the 80s :P
20100710 18:01:20< Blarumyrran> It's silly. About every distro allows you to use many WMs.
20100710 18:01:31< Aethaeryn> It's "user friendly"
20100710 18:02:12< Blarumyrran> (okay, "desktop environments", not WMs)
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20100710 18:02:15< Aethaeryn> Because downloading Fedora and using a different WM than default or downloading an official Fedora "KDE spin" is *much* harder than downloading a semi-official distro called "Kubuntu" that shares the repos.
20100710 18:02:20< Aethaeryn> yeah, DEs
20100710 18:02:42< Aethaeryn> It gets more confusing when you get away from Kubuntu.
20100710 18:02:49< Aethaeryn> Because they're still semi-official, mostly, but less official.
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20100710 18:03:19< Aethaeryn> And I've heard from a certain Kubuntu developer that Kunbutu is almost treated as a second-class citizen by Canonical.
20100710 18:04:09< Aethaeryn> Which is funny because you'd think KDE 4, with all its fanciness, was more in line with the "I want to be Mac OS X" attitude that Canonical has with Ubuntu.
20100710 18:04:21< Aethaeryn> GNOME is rather minimalistic "I want to get work done... not too much fancy here."
20100710 18:05:16< Aethaeryn> Though, I suppose once an organization gets sufficiently large, its once-considered-good project gets worse with bad decisions over time.
20100710 18:05:39< Aethaeryn> And then the masses all join *one* other distro and make it large until that gets bad and wonder what's going on.
20100710 18:06:18< Aethaeryn> Arch Linux is probably going to be the next Ubuntu based on all the hype and mindshare (and the size of its IRC channel vs. it's #9 position on distrowatch, more active than all the ones above it but Ubuntu)
20100710 18:06:40< Aethaeryn> oh wait, #debian is at 954
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20100710 18:41:18< elvish_sovereign> artisticdude: hi!
20100710 18:41:31< artisticdude> hello
20100710 18:41:39< elvish_sovereign> hey
20100710 18:41:42< elvish_sovereign> ummm
20100710 18:42:07< elvish_sovereign> you know the mounted_goblin.png you transparentized earlier?
20100710 18:42:23< artisticdude> Yeah?
20100710 18:42:32< artisticdude> Don't tell me... TC?
20100710 18:42:38< elvish_sovereign> The shading seems weird
20100710 18:42:43< elvish_sovereign> nah the TC is perfect
20100710 18:43:07< artisticdude> It's way oversaturated.
20100710 18:43:13< elvish_sovereign> oh
20100710 18:43:15< elvish_sovereign> ok
20100710 18:43:21< elvish_sovereign> i was trying to figure out why :)
20100710 18:43:26< artisticdude> I didn't really think much of it at the time, but is it supposed to be like that?
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20100710 18:43:30< elvish_sovereign> no
20100710 18:43:53< elvish_sovereign> oh have to go eat
20100710 18:43:57< elvish_sovereign> see ya in a sec
20100710 18:43:58< artisticdude> Eh. I'll have to go back an fix it.
20100710 18:44:01< artisticdude> K.
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20100710 18:56:47< elvish_sovereign> argh
20100710 18:56:56< elvish_sovereign> missed artisticdude just by a bit
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20100710 18:57:22< elvish_sovereign> anyhow i'm back
20100710 18:57:26< elvish_sovereign> hi Blueblaze 
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20100710 20:40:31< artisticdude> Is it just my connection or are the Wesnoth forums running rather slow right now?
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20100710 21:54:17< [Relic]> Hello :)
20100710 21:54:23< Unnheulu> Hullo
20100710 21:55:04< [Relic]> :)
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20100710 22:41:30< elvish_sovereign> hi
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20100710 22:59:05< Aethaeryn> Valkier: :o
20100710 22:59:38< Valkier> ?
20100710 23:00:05< Aethaeryn> no #Wesnoth-music ?
20100710 23:01:19< Valkier> Too much of a distraction.
20100710 23:01:42< ancestral_> I don't blame Valkier
20100710 23:02:54< Blarumyrran> If you're not there, you might miss it if Blueblaze buys a new guitar
20100710 23:03:12< Valkier> Or talks to a girl, or tells me AGAIN he's learning to dance.
20100710 23:03:54< Valkier> Bottom line is I was becoming complacent in my designs and distracted, so I'm keeping it to one or two channels.
20100710 23:04:08< Blarumyrran> I've been a bit out of touch myself, what is his latest guitar count
20100710 23:07:51< Valkier> Does it matter? From my understanding he hardly knows how to play it.
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20100710 23:14:54< Aethaeryn> Blarumyrran: he's taking salsa lessons now
20100710 23:14:57< Aethaeryn> and going clubbing.
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