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20100722 00:20:09< KamusHadenes> heil
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20100722 03:33:26< [Relic]> Hello :)
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20100722 03:57:47< Hulavuta> Hello
20100722 03:57:53< King_Elendil> hello
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20100722 03:58:25< Hulavuta> hows the campaign coming along?
20100722 03:59:33< King_Elendil> lol, we're setting up svn right now, no progress in the actual campaign though.
20100722 04:01:40< Hulavuta> I'm curious as to the answer to Dixie's question too
20100722 04:01:54< King_Elendil> me too lol
20100722 04:02:05< Hulavuta> ....
20100722 04:02:15< Hulavuta> That's not a very reassuring response
20100722 04:02:23< King_Elendil> lol
20100722 04:02:56< Hulavuta> BTW what does Subversion mean?
20100722 04:04:07< Gambit> elvish_sovereign: around?
20100722 04:04:11< Gambit> Hulavuta: it's a subversion
20100722 04:04:14< elvish_sovereign> hey
20100722 04:04:18< Gambit> There's no way to explain it
20100722 04:04:23< Gambit> it's a smaller (sub) version of a version
20100722 04:04:35< Gambit> It's the versions in between say 1.8.2 and 1.8.3
20100722 04:04:39< Gambit> elvish_sovereign: Working on BG
20100722 04:04:43< Gambit> gliders work :)
20100722 04:04:43< elvish_sovereign> kool
20100722 04:04:49< elvish_sovereign> want me to test?
20100722 04:04:49< Gambit> I just need to charge money for them now xD
20100722 04:04:57< Gambit> elvish_sovereign: ~10 minutes
20100722 04:05:00< elvish_sovereign> cool
20100722 04:05:06< elvish_sovereign> as i;m finishing this up in DM
20100722 04:05:26< Gambit> elvish_sovereign: Yeah I was in #wesnoth-umc-dev and they were talking about this game
20100722 04:05:33< Gambit> It was called Wesnoth or something like that.
20100722 04:05:40< Gambit> And I was like hey I think I used to play that game...
20100722 04:05:40< Hulavuta> Is it the same thing as a say, a short is to a TV show, or is it like a TV episode that isn't complete yet?
20100722 04:05:46< Gambit> In fact I think I used to make things for that game!
20100722 04:05:52< elvish_sovereign> COOL MAN
20100722 04:05:55< Gambit> In fact I think I have some unfinished projects laying around.
20100722 04:06:01< Hulavuta> elvish_sovereign: up for MP?
20100722 04:06:06< Gambit> And so I dig around my harddrive, and sure enough there they are.
20100722 04:06:15< elvish_sovereign> will play with Gambit  ~10min
20100722 04:06:21< Hulavuta> :'(
20100722 04:06:26< elvish_sovereign> you can play with us
20100722 04:06:32< Hulavuta> :-D
20100722 04:06:34< elvish_sovereign> Breaking Ground
20100722 04:06:44< Hulavuta> :-(
20100722 04:07:16< Hulavuta> Gambit: Is subversion more as say, a short is to a TV show, or is it like a TV episode that isn't complete yet?
20100722 04:08:30< elvish_sovereign> Hulavuta: subversion is to 1.7.3 -> 1.7.4 as 1.7 is to 1.6 -> 1.8
20100722 04:08:47< Gambit> Hulavuta: No
20100722 04:09:00< Gambit> A subversion is like...
20100722 04:09:12< elvish_sovereign> like what i said
20100722 04:09:14< Gambit> Hulavuta: Like you're building a car
20100722 04:09:16< Gambit> You add a piece
20100722 04:09:18< Gambit> take a photo
20100722 04:09:20< Gambit> add a piece
20100722 04:09:22< Gambit> take a photo
20100722 04:09:24< Gambit> add a piece
20100722 04:09:25< Gambit> take a photo
20100722 04:09:30< Gambit> then you finish and you sell it
20100722 04:09:49< Gambit> Hulavuta: subversion contains the *latest* changes to wesnoth
20100722 04:09:59< Gambit> You can get stuff as it's added
20100722 04:10:03< Gambit> Rather than waiting for the next release
20100722 04:10:43< Hulavuta> ooooook
20100722 04:11:04< Hulavuta> BTW That's both of what I said mixed
20100722 04:11:38< Gambit> anywho
20100722 04:11:41< Gambit> thanks to bullet time
20100722 04:11:46< Gambit> I finished 7 minutes early
20100722 04:11:51< Gambit> I will go host :)
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20100722 04:12:16< Gambit> shadowmaster, elvish_sovereign, Hulavuta: want to play?
20100722 04:12:23< elvish_sovereign> yays
20100722 04:12:29< Gambit> Where has Blar<tab> been these days?
20100722 04:12:51< Hulavuta> I'm not very good, lol
20100722 04:12:55< Hulavuta> But okay, I guess
20100722 04:13:36< elvish_sovereign> oh dude
20100722 04:13:50< Gambit> dooohooood
20100722 04:13:56< Gambit> elvish_sovereign: Wazzup?
20100722 04:13:56< elvish_sovereign> I was losing units really bad, an now that the leader came out hinself
20100722 04:14:02< elvish_sovereign> i got a easy win :D
20100722 04:14:07< elvish_sovereign> on this side, that is
20100722 04:14:20< Gambit> Suwheat
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20100722 04:14:32< Gambit> (hosted by the way)
20100722 04:14:40< Gambit> And I'm going to stop doing a bad surfer impression now
20100722 04:15:29< Hulavuta> kowabunga!
20100722 04:15:45< Gambit> Manabunga is what cows say.
20100722 04:15:51< Gambit> Chaha
20100722 04:16:02< Gambit> Chyeah bra.
20100722 04:16:02< elvish_sovereign> Gambunga
20100722 04:16:10< Gambit> elvish_sovereign: Sounds like a fungus.
20100722 04:16:11< Hulavuta> yo duuuudddeee
20100722 04:16:17< elvish_sovereign> lawl
20100722 04:16:24< Hulavuta> chillax dood
20100722 04:16:25< Gambit> So are you guys joining or neh?
20100722 04:16:31< elvish_sovereign> i'm coming!!!!
20100722 04:16:31< Hulavuta> it's all gooooddd
20100722 04:16:38< Hulavuta> gamb, don't worry bro...
20100722 04:16:41< elvish_sovereign> oh yes
20100722 04:16:43< Gambit> [insert that's what she said joke here]
20100722 04:16:46< elvish_sovereign> do i need to update?
20100722 04:16:50< Gambit> elvish_sovereign: Nope
20100722 04:16:53< elvish_sovereign> okay
20100722 04:16:53< Gambit> No new art or units
20100722 04:17:05< Hulavuta> Gambit:  I don't get it
20100722 04:17:10< shadowmaster> Gambit: play what?
20100722 04:17:17< elvish_sovereign> BG
20100722 04:17:18< elvish_sovereign> too late
20100722 04:17:25< elvish_sovereign> well, maybe not
20100722 04:17:52< shadowmaster> nah
20100722 04:17:52< Gambit> shadowmaster: Breaking ground
20100722 04:17:59< Gambit> shadowmaster: but it's new!
20100722 04:18:06< shadowmaster> yes, but no
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20100722 04:19:31< Hulavuta> elvish_sovereign: when is a good idea to make harvesters?
20100722 04:19:36< elvish_sovereign> now
20100722 04:19:50< Hulavuta> damn
20100722 04:19:56< elvish_sovereign> lol
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20100722 04:38:10< Gambit> Hulavuta: Make many harvesters on all terrain you don't need to fight on
20100722 04:38:21< Gambit> if you don't need to walk across it, blow it up
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20100722 04:45:09< Gambit> crap
20100722 04:45:17< Gambit> I just left that game 2 seconds ago and I can only remember 2/4 bugs
20100722 04:45:31< shadowmaster> 1/2 bugs?
20100722 04:45:40< shadowmaster> oh, you mean 2 out of 4
20100722 04:45:44< Gambit> No there were 4 bugs and I only remember 2... yeah
20100722 04:45:54< Gambit> replays save chat?
20100722 04:46:00< shadowmaster> yes
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20100722 05:00:32< Hulavuta> G'night all
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20100722 06:02:17< Zarel> shadowmaster: No auto-pruning, and now it's even more vague what we can and can't do in Off Topic? :/
20100722 06:02:32< Zarel> Didn't you like my idea? Create a "Forum Games" or "Random Nonsense" board and ignore it.
20100722 06:02:58< shadowmaster> that's a rhetorical question I assume :)
20100722 06:03:22< shadowmaster> I didn't really forbid forum games.
20100722 06:03:33< shadowmaster> yeah, I deleted some old forum game threads, but you can see the others aren't gone.
20100722 06:03:50< shadowmaster> there must be a reason.
20100722 06:04:00< shadowmaster> ........OR IS IT?
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20100722 06:11:26< Zarel> shadowmaster: Well, I mean, the second question wasn't rhetorical.
20100722 06:12:00< Zarel> If you're going to be all "I'm too stuck-up to have particularly inane threads", you might as well create a new forum where it can go.
20100722 06:12:47< Zarel> I mean, either way, I want forum games out of Off Topic. They squeeze out other insightful but non-Wesnoth-related discussion. <_< Would be nice to have a separate Forum Games section either way.
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20100722 06:21:40< shadowmaster> duh.
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20100722 06:21:47< shadowmaster> nope, you are not getting it.
20100722 06:21:50< shadowmaster> you'll have to suffer the pain along with me.
20100722 06:22:16< shadowmaster> that's what you get for suggesting to create more forums as if the board wasn't already cluttered up with them ;)
20100722 06:23:11< shadowmaster> alternatively, I have removed the item that irks you
20100722 06:23:47< shadowmaster> so the nonsense policy is now assumed to be applicable using Common Sense™.
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20100722 06:40:43< Zarel> shadowmaster: Actually, the item that irked me was "Off-Topic is some sort of lounge room for the community members, but we do not want it to be mistaken for a general-purpose social forum!"
20100722 06:40:56< Zarel> Because it was unclear what it was, if not a general-purpose social forum.
20100722 06:42:03< shadowmaster> uh.
20100722 06:42:16< shadowmaster> i.e. I don't want it to be confused with a forum for non-Wesnoth people
20100722 06:46:59< shadowmaster> (you know I can always use some help with the wording)
20100722 06:48:42< shadowmaster> Zarel: how about
20100722 06:48:47< shadowmaster> "Don't forget that the forums are mainly intended for supporting Wesnoth's development and assisting users. Off-Topic is some sort of lounge room for the community members, but we do [b]not[/b] want it to be mistaken for a general-purpose social forum for outsiders!"
20100722 06:48:58< shadowmaster> so, basically, the same line, plus "for outsiders"
20100722 06:49:10< Zarel> Yes, that's clearer.
20100722 06:49:23< Zarel> So you're pretty much just kicking me out. :P
20100722 06:49:41< shadowmaster> uh...no?
20100722 06:49:45< Zarel> That's the problem there... it's difficult to quantify "outsider".
20100722 06:49:55< shadowmaster> you are a player...(I hope)...you are also ...you contributed some icons...
20100722 06:50:00< Zarel> :P
20100722 06:50:35< Zarel> Yeah, a year ago. Don't play much. Last thing I contributed was that whistle smiley.
20100722 06:51:00< shadowmaster> which spent like a year in my approval queue.
20100722 06:51:30< Zarel> The problem with the "not for outsiders" thing is that it can make people feel unwelcome - they start to second-guess themselves... "Have I contributed enough? Do I have to participate a minimum amount in other sections?"
20100722 06:51:46< Zarel> It was in your approval queue?
20100722 06:52:24< Zarel> Anyway, my idea. Don't explicitly say "not for outsiders". Just require a minimum of, say, 10 posts in non-off-topic forums.
20100722 06:52:45< Zarel> That'll head off people joining solely for the Off Topic chat, while not having existing forum members second-guess themselves about whether or not they belond.
20100722 06:52:47< Zarel> belong*
20100722 06:53:16< shadowmaster> uh, no, that's not pretty good either. (the postcount minimum)
20100722 06:53:25< shadowmaster> take for example people who are IRC or MP regulars.
20100722 06:53:29< MadMerlin> anyone have a wiki account? there's spam at the end of this page: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/WesnothBinariesLinux
20100722 06:53:34< MadMerlin> "custom essay writing"
20100722 06:53:44< shadowmaster> MadMerlin: I have
20100722 06:54:12< Zarel> shadowmaster: Hmm. Well... Just let outsiders come? They can't be that bad...
20100722 06:54:48< shadowmaster> Fear the wrath of Anonymous!
20100722 06:54:53< shadowmaster> because Wesnoth has done nothing wrong, and that's terrible
20100722 06:55:06< Zarel> Yeah, like 4chan's going to be stopped by your forum rules.
20100722 06:55:17< shadowmaster> :P
20100722 06:55:22< shadowmaster> psst, it's a joke
20100722 06:57:06< shadowmaster> MadMerlin: fixed.
20100722 06:57:13< MadMerlin> \o/
20100722 06:57:23< shadowmaster> thanks for noticing
20100722 06:57:41< Zarel> I knew that.
20100722 06:58:23< Zarel> Anyway, "not a general-purpose social forum for outsiders" is good enough for me not to continue whining. :P
20100722 06:58:50< MadMerlin> no problem, those spammers are relentless
20100722 06:59:08< shadowmaster> I should add a phpBB tag to enclose stuff in <!-- but it could be abused too :|
20100722 06:59:32< shadowmaster> so I guess, this line gotta go
20100722 06:59:33< Zarel> shadowmaster: I don't see how that would ever come in handy.
20100722 07:00:33< shadowmaster> okay, any more nitpicking to do tonight?
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20100722 07:03:28< shadowmaster> PetePorty: quit doing rent-a-modding
20100722 07:03:35< shadowmaster> or "backseat modding"
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20100722 07:21:29< Zarel> shadowmaster: PetePorty says he'd answer, but he's been quieted.
20100722 07:21:44< shadowmaster> Zarel: I'm talking to him by PM, don't worry
20100722 07:21:44< Zarel> noy: Heya!
20100722 07:21:55< noy> did ya take a wesbreak?
20100722 07:22:12< Zarel> noy: Kinda. You could still find me in #warzone2100, y'know. :)
20100722 07:22:20< noy> ah, I finidhed that game
20100722 07:22:37< noy> I should delete it from my computer because I get distracted from time to time
20100722 07:23:18< shadowmaster> :D
20100722 07:23:35< shadowmaster> meh, I couldn't learn well to play it.
20100722 07:27:07< Zarel> Heh. I mostly play multiplayer these days. It's really fun!
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20100722 07:35:51< shadowmaster> the font rendering on those iphone screenshots looks AWFUL.
20100722 07:36:07< shadowmaster> te small fonts in particular.
20100722 07:36:19< shadowmaster> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=444460#p444460
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20100722 07:37:17< shadowmaster> watching TV?
20100722 07:37:27< shadowmaster> 1:37 am? less than 18 years old?
20100722 07:37:40< shadowmaster> what the hell can we have on local TV at this time that would be suitable for kids?
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20100722 07:38:25 * shadowmaster sips tea.
20100722 07:44:06< Zarel> shadowmaster: I bet his mom's gonna regret that decision. :P
20100722 07:44:31< Zarel> On the subject of bad font rendering
20100722 07:44:35< Zarel> DEAR GODS QUESOGLC
20100722 07:45:21< Zarel> If you've ever seen a Warzone screenshot, you'd know what I mean.
20100722 07:45:34< Zarel> All they do is render text and anti-alias it.
20100722 07:45:47< Zarel> No hinting, no subpixel rendering, nothing.
20100722 07:46:22< shadowmaster> http://sourceforge.net/project/screenshots.php?group_id=53918&ssid=9938
20100722 07:46:57< shadowmaster> or http://sourceforge.net/project/screenshots.php?group_id=53918&ssid=10376 , which may be more obvious
20100722 07:48:11< shadowmaster> it's like reading with steamed up glasses.
20100722 07:48:36< Zarel> shadowmaster: Or just look at a Warzone screenshot.
20100722 07:48:44< Zarel> We use QuesoGLC. >_<
20100722 07:49:02< Zarel> Would be nice if we could get someone to swap out the text renderer to something sane.
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20100722 07:59:32< ancestral> :_( wish more people knew the difference between "less" and "fewer"
20100722 08:00:39< shadowmaster> where?
20100722 08:00:51< ancestral> Actually, in your post for one :-P
20100722 08:01:05< shadowmaster> which one?
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20100722 08:01:41< ancestral> http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=444462#p444462 But don't mind me, I'm nitpicking
20100722 08:01:52< ancestral> srsly it's cool I'll get over it in like 10 seconds
20100722 08:02:42< shadowmaster> enlighten me, non-native English speaker, and you shall be rewarded.
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20100722 08:03:44< ancestral> Items that can be easily counted use "fewer". Items that can't be easily counted use "less".
20100722 08:04:26< shadowmaster> less coffee.
20100722 08:04:28< shadowmaster> fewer beans.
20100722 08:04:32< shadowmaster> right?
20100722 08:04:32< ancestral> Correct
20100722 08:05:05< ancestral> "I have fewer potatoes" and "I have less money"
20100722 08:05:15< shadowmaster> Thanks ancestral! Now I know!
20100722 08:05:18< shikadibot> And knowing is half the battle!
20100722 08:05:47< ancestral> I wrote a post once on the forums, heh. It had much emphasis.
20100722 08:06:01< ancestral> And all the checkout lines that they 15 items or less
20100722 08:06:07< ancestral> Yeah, they're all wrong ;-)
20100722 08:06:28< ancestral> I suppose in Spanish you don't have that problem
20100722 08:07:01< shadowmaster> yeah.
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20100722 08:50:30< ancestral> Yay it didn't get locked
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20100722 08:55:49< ancestral> Yay I was able to post before it got locked
20100722 08:56:13< shadowmaster> wut?
20100722 08:56:21< ancestral> http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=444479#p444479
20100722 08:56:27< shadowmaster> heh
20100722 08:56:50< ancestral> I like to think I actually bring insight to conversations once in a while…
20100722 08:57:38< shadowmaster> well, when I first saw zookeeper's post I was like
20100722 08:57:39< shadowmaster> :|
20100722 08:57:49< ancestral> Haha
20100722 08:57:52< ancestral> I know
20100722 08:58:22< shadowmaster> but then I was like
20100722 08:58:23< shadowmaster> https://people.mozilla.com/~dolske/tmp/awesome.png
20100722 08:58:30< ancestral> Haha
20100722 08:59:40< shadowmaster> although I still think zooekeeper and TSI were a bit too harsh to meowreka. I wanted to give him a chance to notice how horribly broken his argument was.
20100722 08:59:56< shadowmaster> now the thread is just locked and he'll be like "oooh, screw this, I'll leave the forums! bye!"
20100722 09:00:56< ancestral> Reminds me of work
20100722 09:02:50< ancestral> I can turn people away but sometimes it's way more beneficial educating my customers
20100722 09:04:50< zookeeper> i was being harsh? :|
20100722 09:05:08< ancestral> Actually I think it was amusing
20100722 09:05:29< ancestral> I like how your smilies were quoted, too
20100722 09:05:53< ancestral> I think the smilies added to the weight of the thread being locked
20100722 09:05:58< Aethaeryn> didn't meowreka already quit?
20100722 09:06:25< Aethaeryn> Wesnoth has illegal substances in its source code. You just can't quit cold turkey and never return.
20100722 09:06:29< Aethaeryn> You'll relapse eventually.
20100722 09:07:04< ancestral> "I am back from a long time of inactivity. How come my Posess idea got scrapped but my Pickpocket ability is still on the wiki?"
20100722 09:07:17< Aethaeryn> And yeah, I think meowreka's the one with a mappack who made a big public scene quitting in... maybe October or so.
20100722 09:07:20< ancestral> Aethaeryn, you can answer that one
20100722 09:07:22< ancestral> :-P
20100722 09:07:30< Aethaeryn> the bigger the scene they make quitting 
20100722 09:07:41< ancestral> October 13th was the previous post
20100722 09:07:55< Aethaeryn> I am damn good. Memory + quick log check after I remember.
20100722 09:08:11< ancestral> Curiously, he even admitted to making a fool of himself
20100722 09:08:58< Aethaeryn> The bigger the scene they make leaving a community, the more likely they are to return.
20100722 09:09:04< Aethaeryn> Usually under a different name though.
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20100722 09:09:16< Aethaeryn> Typically because they show that they still care a lot about the game/community by making a scene
20100722 09:09:28< Aethaeryn> It's the people who just fade away who are less likely to return
20100722 09:09:50< ancestral> However, I think in many ridiculous ideas there's a gem of an idea hidden in it
20100722 09:10:02< ancestral> It's not the same idea, and probably far from it
20100722 09:10:18< ancestral> But if cultivated properly… amazing things can happen
20100722 09:10:37< Aethaeryn> I think that in many monkeys on a typewriter, Shakespeare's works are hidden.
20100722 09:11:11< Aethaeryn> If you churn out quantity, you *will* eventually get some quality, and increasingly so, not just random. The trick is to apply a self-filter to prevent embarrassment.
20100722 09:11:26< Aethaeryn> The self-filter is really for your own benefit only.
20100722 09:11:26< ancestral> You can't reverse it
20100722 09:11:48< ancestral> You can't take a gem and put it in a ridiculous idea if it doesn't work the other way around
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20100722 09:12:49< shadowmaster> zookeeper: you were being...harsh? well, I guess holding a giant neon sign reading "SURE" close to one's face isn't being harsh then.
20100722 09:13:40< shadowmaster> (replace "neon" with "smilies")
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20100722 09:19:06< Ivanovic> moin
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20100722 09:36:14< Unnheulu> shadowm_away, <3 your post in users :)
20100722 09:36:30< Unnheulu> 9Shikadi one)
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20100722 09:39:52< Unnheulu> s/9/(/
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20100722 10:15:24< Unnheulu> Hopefully this won't hilight his laptop...
20100722 10:15:52< Unnheulu> I hate looking at users post history (ie, thespaceinvader, or shadowmaster) and then looking at mine...
20100722 10:17:33< Unnheulu> omg...thespaceinvader, you are in britain, right?
20100722 10:18:20< thespaceinvader> yeah, I am
20100722 10:19:23< Unnheulu> You were awake at 6?
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20100722 10:24:18< thespaceinvader> i was
20100722 10:24:27< thespaceinvader> i was only online at 7
20100722 10:24:44< Unnheulu> 6:46?
20100722 10:24:49< thespaceinvader> my g/f gets up for work at 6, so so do i, more or less
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20100722 10:24:54< thespaceinvader> why?
20100722 10:25:15< Unnheulu> I'm just surprised you can wake up so early :)
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20100722 10:35:11< thespaceinvader> i can't ;)
20100722 10:35:21< thespaceinvader> i'm barely functional til 8ish
20100722 10:36:21< Unnheulu> Heh
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20100722 10:36:55< Unnheulu> If I were to wake up at 6, I'd just lie in bed using my iPod, I can't move properly to get up at that point in time  :)
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20100722 17:13:37< Hulavuta> Woooff
20100722 17:13:39< Hulavuta> That was a close one
20100722 17:14:23< Hulavuta> I noticed my post count dropped by about 300, I thought a bunch of my posts were deleted, but I found out it was just the Three Word Story ones
20100722 17:14:42< Hulavuta> What a relief, (although I didn't notice how much I posted in there =-O)
20100722 17:14:51< Hulavuta> And nobody is listening to me right now
20100722 17:15:28< thespaceinvader> Hulavuta: that's because what you're saying is irrelevant ;)
20100722 17:15:29< artisticdude> I was waiting for this to happen.
20100722 17:15:41< thespaceinvader> this is a chat room, but that sort of stuff isn't necessary to say
20100722 17:15:48< Hulavuta> At least I won't have to bump my rant topic to save it from pruning
20100722 17:15:54< Hulavuta> thespaceinvader: ok
20100722 17:16:13< Hulavuta> artisticdude: waiting for what?
20100722 17:16:39< artisticdude> That 3-word story to fall before the might of the auto-pruner.
20100722 17:16:46< artisticdude> It was long overdue.
20100722 17:17:23< thespaceinvader> auto-pruner's been disabled - i suspect shadowm_away has been manually pruning off-topic to get rid of some of the longer, more inane and useless threads
20100722 17:17:39< Hulavuta> Yeah, he just deleted it
20100722 17:17:44< Hulavuta> There are new Posting Guidelines
20100722 17:17:56< thespaceinvader> for off tpic, yes
20100722 17:18:03< Hulavuta> Yeah, that's what I meant
20100722 17:18:10< artisticdude> Oh? I didn't notice that.
20100722 17:18:14< Hulavuta> But I'm done with forum games anyway
20100722 17:18:24 * artisticdude checks the off-topic posting guidelines.
20100722 17:19:19 * Hulavuta wonders when the Vending Machine will be deleted
20100722 17:19:58< artisticdude> Soon, I bet. It's pointless, and it's getting rather long.
20100722 17:20:14< Hulavuta> It doesn't really make much sense either,
20100722 17:20:39< Hulavuta> It's just saying random words, basically
20100722 17:21:22< artisticdude> "So kids, play nice and don't forget to wash your hands before going to eat!"
20100722 17:21:26< artisticdude> Lol.
20100722 17:21:39< Hulavuta> lol
20100722 17:23:11< Hulavuta> Mm sunflower seeds
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20100722 17:29:06< artisticdude> Hulavuta: what's the IRC command that makes your username red like that when you enter a message?
20100722 17:29:11< artisticdude> I've looked for it through Google but I can't find it. :/
20100722 17:29:44< Hulavuta> I don't know what you're talking about
20100722 17:30:06< Hulavuta> I'm don't know much about IRC
20100722 17:30:26< artisticdude> When you said "artisticdude: waiting for what?", your username was red. It signifies some sort of alert, I believe.
20100722 17:30:37< zookeeper> artisticdude, like this?
20100722 17:30:38< sevis> artisticdude: That depends on your client.
20100722 17:31:07< artisticdude> Yes, like that.
20100722 17:31:20< zookeeper> it's your client highlighting stuff when your nick is mentioned
20100722 17:31:58< artisticdude> Ah. So there isn't a command that you use?
20100722 17:32:02< zookeeper> right
20100722 17:32:31< Hulavuta> Ohh
20100722 17:32:34< Hulavuta> For me, it turns gold
20100722 17:32:53< artisticdude> Okay, thanks.
20100722 17:33:05 * artisticdude doesn't know a whole lot about IRC
20100722 17:33:05< Hulavuta> Well, other people use an "artisticdude" command
20100722 17:33:20< artisticdude> In fact, I just started using it this year.
20100722 17:33:31< artisticdude> Up to then I'd never had a reason to use IRC.
20100722 17:33:40< Hulavuta> BTW your whole nick in any context would signal you, so if you don't want to highlight someone, use a nickname 
20100722 17:33:53< Hulavuta> like this, blahblahblah artisticdude blah
20100722 17:34:35< Valkier> I really need a new client.
20100722 17:34:50< Valkier> Some combination of letters comes out as gibberish for some off reason.
20100722 17:34:55< artisticdude> I really need to get a client and stop using webchat. :/
20100722 17:35:27< artisticdude> In fact, I think I'll go download Colloquy right now.
20100722 17:37:01< Hulavuta> I'm using Pidgin, Gamb says it's good but shadow master says it sucks
20100722 17:37:13< Hulavuta> But it can handle all of your chats though
20100722 17:37:35< Hulavuta> I have my Yahoo and Google chat accounts in Pidgin along with my IRC one
20100722 17:37:39< artisticdude> Heck, it's only 8.3 mb?
20100722 17:37:54< artisticdude> I'd have gotten it sooner had I known how small the download was.
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20100722 17:41:45< artisticdude> Does anyone know what the name of this chat server is? :/
20100722 17:43:19< thespaceinvader> freenode
20100722 17:44:28< zookeeper> freenode is the network
20100722 17:45:17< thespaceinvader> i thoguht that might be what artisticdude meant...
20100722 17:45:54< Ivanovic> artisticdude: you just connect to a round-robin server that redirects you to "your" server
20100722 17:46:07< Ivanovic> so you just need to know the network which is irc.freenode.net
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20100722 17:47:25< artisticdude> Okay, I think I got it.
20100722 17:47:28< artisticdude> Thanks, guys. :)
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20100722 18:03:45< artisticdewd> Doppelganger!
20100722 18:03:55< artisticdude> That sounds like some sort of soda.
20100722 18:04:03< artisticdude> Mountain Dewd.
20100722 18:04:10< artisticdude> Artistic Dewd
20100722 18:04:27< artisticdewd> Art Dewed D-2
20100722 18:04:41< artisticdude> 50% less calories than comparable brands.
20100722 18:04:46< artisticdude> Lol.
20100722 18:05:12< artisticdewd> You've tried the first, now try the thirst!
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20100722 18:30:20 * Gambit compiling trunk to have a peak at these new terrains
20100722 18:30:41< Gambit> s/peak/peek/ ?
20100722 18:36:03< Gambit> Though I suppose if some of the new terrain included a mountain update...
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20100722 18:46:48< Gambit> Now if only we had a minecart sprite...
20100722 18:50:30< PetePorty> ...The mountain is good enough as it is.
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20100722 19:27:22< Gambit> Blarumyrran, PetePorty: Would you guys like to play Breaking Ground?
20100722 19:27:33< Gambit> AFAIK bug free and feature complete.
20100722 19:27:35< Blarumyrran> What's that?
20100722 19:27:40< Gambit> With new and improved graphics in every box!
20100722 19:27:45< Gambit> Blarumyrran: That addon I was working on before.
20100722 19:28:18< Blarumyrran> Oh, right, the one where you're breaking ground.
20100722 19:28:22< Blarumyrran> Sure
20100722 19:28:24< Gambit> Yes! that's the one.
20100722 19:28:43< Gambit> Hmm PetePorty is unresponsive.
20100722 19:28:47< Gambit> Blarumyrran: You okay with 1v1?
20100722 19:28:56< Gambit> I added the option to fly soldiers to other hexes
20100722 19:29:00< Gambit> archers only kill soldiers now
20100722 19:29:00< Blarumyrran> Yes
20100722 19:29:03< Gambit> but have 6 range
20100722 19:29:14< Gambit> Blarumyrran: latest zip: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=444601#p444601
20100722 19:29:23< Blarumyrran> The less players in a game, the less people I'm embarrassing myself in front of
20100722 19:29:32< Gambit> Heh
20100722 19:29:41< Blarumyrran> Gambit, only kill soldiers = don't create chasms?
20100722 19:29:50< Gambit> No they still break terrain on anything
20100722 19:29:52< Gambit> even empty hexes
20100722 19:29:57< Gambit> They just only insta kill soldiers
20100722 19:30:04< Gambit> You can kill other units by dropping them to chasm.
20100722 19:30:27< Gambit> Oh and you can't use them on the first turn you buy them anymore
20100722 19:31:49< Gambit> Okay let me know when you've got that.
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20100722 19:33:07< Gambit> Hmm apparently the new images are 0.6kb larger :o
20100722 19:33:25< Gambit> Or that could be the one new event I added.
20100722 19:33:30< Gambit> Or some combination of both.
20100722 19:33:46< Gambit> 60b?
20100722 19:33:59< Blarumyrran> Got it
20100722 19:34:28< Gambit> okay hosting
20100722 19:34:38< Gambit> aaaaand it's up
20100722 19:34:42< Blarumyrran> For some reason, all zips I download as Wesnoth forum attachments, are named .cfg at first
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20100722 19:50:47< PetePorty> back
20100722 19:50:53< PetePorty> Gambit, wth?
20100722 19:50:55< PetePorty> oh...
20100722 19:51:36< Gambit> Chyeah
20100722 19:52:39< PetePorty> so... Wanna play, or you already did?
20100722 19:52:53< PetePorty> Gambit?
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20100722 20:01:23< Gambit> After lunch I'll write some help and then release.
20100722 20:01:36< PetePorty> Cool.
20100722 20:01:52-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth
20100722 20:02:24< PetePorty> Hi shadowm
20100722 20:02:35< shadowm_away> the Posting Guidelines haven't changed, people
20100722 20:02:43< shadowm_away> other than the new nifty anchors and links
20100722 20:02:49-!- shadowm_away is now known as shadowmaster
20100722 20:04:50< Gambit> and graphics
20100722 20:05:01< shadowmaster> there are no graphics.
20100722 20:05:02< Gambit> shadowmaster: Wha?
20100722 20:05:22< Gambit> shadowmaster: no not that
20100722 20:05:30< Gambit> I mean graphics is another hting I have to do after lunch
20100722 20:05:36< shadowmaster> ah.
20100722 20:06:17< Gambit> And wahts this about posting guidelines?
20100722 20:06:20< Gambit> And welcome back.
20100722 20:06:23< Gambit> And how're you feeling?
20100722 20:06:35< shadowmaster> I Got Better™.
20100722 20:06:44< Gambit> :awesome:
20100722 20:06:45< Blarumyrran> What, another earthquake?
20100722 20:07:14-!- Zerovirus [62c45c53@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.196.92.83] has joined #wesnoth
20100722 20:07:38< Zerovirus> Elvish_sovereign was looking for me about one day ago?
20100722 20:07:44< Zerovirus> Well he's not here now so
20100722 20:07:54< shadowmaster> the anesthetic's effects aren't over yet and I feel like something is burning my cheeckbone but it's nothing big.
20100722 20:08:02< shadowmaster> *cheekbone
20100722 20:08:08< Gambit> Zerovirus: I'll be looking for you in like 20 minutes :D
20100722 20:08:10< Zerovirus> Did you get some sort of tooth extraction process surgery thing, SM?
20100722 20:08:16< Zerovirus> Gambit: Installing Breaking Ground now
20100722 20:08:18< shadowmaster> yeah.
20100722 20:08:20< Zerovirus> might be a few minutes
20100722 20:08:21< Gambit> Zerovirus: Get twitter. Stay informed.
20100722 20:08:32< Zerovirus> Get facebook. Stay without a life.
20100722 20:08:39< Gambit> carebearstare
20100722 20:09:17< Gambit> shadowmaster: Here's what you gotta do.
20100722 20:09:27< Gambit> Get $200 togethor and visit one of the local street racing crews.
20100722 20:09:32< Gambit> Buy a half tank of nitrous oxide
20100722 20:10:23< shadowmaster> and then what?
20100722 20:11:06< Gambit> inhale
20100722 20:11:18 * shadowmaster rolls eyes.
20100722 20:11:49< Zerovirus> lol
20100722 20:12:01< Zerovirus> Wow the old Magus sprite sucked
20100722 20:12:07< Zerovirus> It's like the Invoker
20100722 20:12:12< Zerovirus> But with a BIGGER CLOAK and a staff and horns
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20100722 20:12:45< Gambit> shadowmaster: Laugh pain in the face!
20100722 20:12:54< shadowmaster> Zerovirus: yeah :(
20100722 20:13:04< shadowmaster> and the Lore sprite sucks even more
20100722 20:13:12< Zerovirus> And who decided to turn the Lore's bottom half into a tree's roots?
20100722 20:13:16< shadowmaster> me
20100722 20:13:19< shadowmaster> me:|
20100722 20:13:20< Zerovirus> >.>
20100722 20:13:25< shadowmaster> don't look at me like that
20100722 20:13:41< Zerovirus> lol I'll go and patch those sprites up a bit now
20100722 20:13:47< Blarumyrran> He is looking towards the user list on the right, silly
20100722 20:14:04< Zerovirus> I actually kinda liked the old texture of the Lore's bottom half TC robes
20100722 20:14:14< Zerovirus> I think in expanded era they call the Lore a Demonologist or something like that
20100722 20:14:22< shadowmaster> whatever you do, please don't go back to the old name (Dæmonologist)
20100722 20:14:40< Blarumyrran> A unit is called Lore?
20100722 20:14:49< shadowmaster> invent a new name if you need, but please stay away from the Dæmonologist lore.
20100722 20:14:50< Zerovirus> Yes, the final upgrade for the Invoker
20100722 20:14:57< Zerovirus> I don't do names, just pictures
20100722 20:15:02< Zerovirus> You guys can handle everything alphabetic
20100722 20:16:06< Gambit> Dibs on numeric issues!
20100722 20:16:22< Zerovirus> Yeah I think Chaos could use a bit more balancing too
20100722 20:16:27< Gambit> oh
20100722 20:16:28< Gambit> undibs
20100722 20:16:33< Zerovirus> lol I expected as much
20100722 20:17:17< shadowmaster> in any case, IftU is currently unmaintained and these Chaos units have changed a lot from their EE counterparts...so you'll need to get someone else to help with names or balancing.
20100722 20:18:02< Zerovirus> Go get Espreon for that :P
20100722 20:18:30 * shadowmaster is hungry.
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20100722 20:18:37 * Zerovirus is hungry too
20100722 20:18:41< Blarumyrran> He'll never accept naming something with æ in it into something that doesn't
20100722 20:18:42< shadowmaster> I'll have to spend three days eating only gelatine, dammit
20100722 20:18:43 * Zerovirus just finished another bit of SAT lessons
20100722 20:18:51< Zerovirus> Oh wow sucks
20100722 20:19:00< Zerovirus> Then again I've been subsisting on starbursts for a week now
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20100722 20:20:21< Zerovirus> Who did the sprite for the latest Magus?
20100722 20:20:25< shadowmaster> ...me.
20100722 20:20:38< Zerovirus> I was going to say, the shading is good but the design sucks majorly
20100722 20:20:46< shadowmaster> a paintover based on the old Magus by neorice
20100722 20:20:54< Zerovirus> Also what the heck are those horns attached to lol
20100722 20:21:06< Zerovirus> Are they cosmetically glued onto the cloak? :P
20100722 20:21:10< shadowmaster> well, those were already there in neorice's version.
20100722 20:22:19< Blarumyrran> It's sort of silly having both Mage and Magus in one setting
20100722 20:22:43< shadowmaster> Mages don't appear in IftU.
20100722 20:22:59< shadowmaster> they are supposed to be already kind of extinct, in particular the White Mage line.
20100722 20:23:01< Zerovirus> ...Huh. They don't now that I think of it.
20100722 20:23:03< Blarumyrran> Oh, I remembered utbs had a silver mage and thought so would iftu too
20100722 20:23:08< shadowmaster> Zerovirus: http://exong.net/wesnoth-attach/files/chaos_250.png
20100722 20:23:20< shadowmaster> Blarumyrran: no. She....changed.
20100722 20:23:31< Zerovirus> See, the old Lore was so cool
20100722 20:23:36< Zerovirus> And then you turned it into a half wose :P
20100722 20:23:51< shadowmaster> stop trolliing
20100722 20:23:52< Gambit> (how does that even work?)
20100722 20:24:04< shadowmaster> I *know* that back then I was really stupid
20100722 20:24:13< Gambit> One would think woses use pollination.
20100722 20:24:15< Zerovirus> SPRITE MAJJYIIKKZ
20100722 20:24:18< Gambit> s/in/en/
20100722 20:24:21< shadowmaster> you don't need to make fun of my older crap.
20100722 20:24:27< Zerovirus> Okay, sorry.
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20100722 20:24:53< Zerovirus> Actually, the sprites aren't bad, it's just that by applying biggerism the ratio of details to size changed negatively
20100722 20:24:59< Zerovirus> So the sprites became boring and stuff.
20100722 20:25:29< Gambit> The math of art.
20100722 20:25:49< Zerovirus> If you want to think of it that way sure
20100722 20:26:29< Gambit> Zerovirus: I want a sprite that fills the screen.
20100722 20:26:41< Zerovirus> That's called a background.
20100722 20:26:43< Gambit> With the same detail to size ratio as the L4 Deathknight thinger.
20100722 20:26:50< Zerovirus> That's called a background.
20100722 20:27:10< Blarumyrran> shadowmaster, no as in she was taken out of utbs? On 1.8rc1, I still see elyssa.png and elyssa_silver.png in the utbs directory
20100722 20:27:16< Gambit> Zerovirus: Make me one of these... bakrounz.
20100722 20:27:29< Zerovirus> No.
20100722 20:27:31< Blarumyrran> Zerovirus, you'd be better off with less "details" in the form of 1-pixelwide random lines
20100722 20:27:38< Zerovirus> Yeah I would be
20100722 20:27:41< Gambit> Hwæt?
20100722 20:27:51< Zerovirus> But I haven't advanced past that noob trick point yet
20100722 20:27:59< Zerovirus> -awesomefacesmiley-
20100722 20:28:03< Gambit> jeß jeß
20100722 20:28:16< Gambit> :þ
20100722 20:28:27< Zerovirus> Stop trying to be Espreon darnit
20100722 20:28:31< Gambit> fuþorc
20100722 20:28:35< Gambit> fuþorc
20100722 20:28:38< Zerovirus> Okay I have no idea what that means
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20100722 20:28:41< Gambit> It just rolls off the toungue.
20100722 20:28:51< Gambit> fuuuuuuuuuuuuþoooooooooorc
20100722 20:28:55< Zerovirus> My tongue can't even pronounce that stupid p+b thing
20100722 20:29:08< Blarumyrran> Orc could upgrade to fuþorc
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20100722 20:29:15< Blarumyrran> Like someone once said,
20100722 20:29:32< Gambit> Zerovirus: Hwæt? But you just ßaid þing.
20100722 20:29:59< Zerovirus> ...It means the "th" sound? Huh.
20100722 20:30:00< Blarumyrran> ßai sounds wrong
20100722 20:30:05< Blarumyrran> ßaid*
20100722 20:30:12< Gambit> Zeroviruß: Have ye ne'er ßaid "þe" or "þat?"
20100722 20:30:18< Zerovirus> GOD DAMMIT STOP THIS STUPIDITY
20100722 20:30:21< Zerovirus> BLUB BLUB BLUB
20100722 20:30:26< Gambit> ßtupidity.
20100722 20:30:40< shadowmaster> Gambit: I think you're doing it wrong.
20100722 20:30:47< Zerovirus> And there we go. The Espreon wannabe... HASS the annoying
20100722 20:30:51< shadowmaster> ß stands for a short s sound followed by a long sound
20100722 20:31:05< Zerovirus> Yeah
20100722 20:31:09< Gambit> Ließ
20100722 20:31:10< Zerovirus> That's exactly what it stands for
20100722 20:31:33< Gambit> Thiß iß exactly þe way it'ß done.
20100722 20:31:43< shadowmaster> Gambit: no.
20100722 20:31:46< Gambit> ♥ Konverßation auto replace.
20100722 20:32:07< Gambit> ßhadowmaßter: Ließ
20100722 20:32:17 * shadowmaster ignores Gambit 
20100722 20:32:20< Zerovirus> Okay seriously stop it man
20100722 20:32:51< Gambit> shadowmaster: What hwy?
20100722 20:32:59< Gambit> hmmm
20100722 20:33:02< Gambit> it failed
20100722 20:33:16< Gambit> ßhadowmaßter: Why
20100722 20:33:24< Gambit> Apparently it'ß caße ßenßitive.
20100722 20:33:27< Gambit> That ßuckß.
20100722 20:33:27< Blarumyrran> Konvær sætion achwto repleiß.
20100722 20:33:47< Zerovirus> 你烦不烦
20100722 20:34:00< Gambit> ßhadowmaßter: But maybe we can finally make Eßpreon ßtop if we do it wrong a lot!
20100722 20:34:08< Zerovirus> ...That is an idea.
20100722 20:34:12< Gambit> Exactly!
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20100722 20:34:15< PetePorty> ...
20100722 20:34:21< Blarumyrran> Gambit, that's an excuse, not a reason
20100722 20:34:22< Zerovirus> Or it could make him do it right a lot more to fight our engfailish
20100722 20:34:23< PetePorty> lol
20100722 20:34:33< Zerovirus> Like a linguistics arm race
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20100722 20:36:18< shadowmaster> by now I guess you have removed your silly replacement patterns
20100722 20:37:16< Gambit> jeß
20100722 20:37:39< Zerovirus> >.<
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20100722 20:40:59< Zerovirus> Shadowmaster: While we're here, are you willing to tell any of us anything about this new Drake campaign? Wings of Victory?
20100722 20:41:04< Hulavuta> Yes
20100722 20:41:18< Blarumyrran> All drake campaigns have that sort of names
20100722 20:41:30< Hulavuta> True
20100722 20:41:40< Hulavuta> All Drake campaigns either have Wings/Flight or Dragon in them
20100722 20:41:58< Blarumyrran> Like they would be heroic movies about US air forces
20100722 20:42:34< Hulavuta> How about "The Firey Guys"
20100722 20:42:34< shadowmaster> Zerovirus: no, since I don't handle much information on it.
20100722 20:42:39< shadowmaster> you'd need to ask fendrin
20100722 20:42:40< Blarumyrran> (as USA has an obsession with putting "Liberty" and "Freedom" inside random names)
20100722 20:42:53< Blarumyrran> (and victory*)
20100722 20:43:20< Zerovirus> Don't forget the secondary trait of independence
20100722 20:43:36< Hulavuta> And the Eagle
20100722 20:43:38< Hulavuta> so Wings
20100722 20:43:42< shadowmaster> BEHOLD! THE FORK OF FREEDOM!
20100722 20:44:10< Zerovirus> You know, chinese stuff is the same except it has Red, Star, Gold, Dragon, Guerrilla Tactics, Social Bonding Between Commie Troops As Philosophical Propaganda, etc.
20100722 20:44:18< Zerovirus> I should know, my parents watch that stuff all the time
20100722 20:45:05< Hulavuta> r u chinese
20100722 20:45:52< shadowmaster> he is living in USA but has chinese origins AFAIK
20100722 20:46:03< Zerovirus> A'yup
20100722 20:46:05< shadowmaster> and was in China a month ago
20100722 20:46:13< Zerovirus> My dad is distinctly descended from ol
20100722 20:46:20< Zerovirus> Genghis Khan or something I think
20100722 20:46:22< Zerovirus> Some Khan dude
20100722 20:46:25< Hulavuta> I am living in the USA but and I have Vietnamese origins, and 4 years ago I went to Korea
20100722 20:46:29< Hulavuta> They had a StarCraft channel
20100722 20:46:35< Gambit> Zerovirus: Wrathuv
20100722 20:46:38< Zerovirus> What, doesn't america do too?
20100722 20:46:41< Hulavuta> Also I'm descended from a king who nobody remembers/cares about
20100722 20:46:46< Gambit> He is descended from Wrathuv Khan
20100722 20:46:50< Hulavuta> Actually, they had THREE starcraft channels
20100722 20:46:50< Zerovirus> King henry the eighth? :P
20100722 20:46:58< Hulavuta> No, it's a Vietnamese king
20100722 20:47:01< Hulavuta> Since I'm Vietnamese...
20100722 20:47:15< Zerovirus> They had kings? I thought asians usually used things like EMperor and such.
20100722 20:47:19< Hulavuta> IDK
20100722 20:47:20< Hulavuta> Same thing
20100722 20:47:26< Zerovirus> I dunno, I thought king was a western appelation for royalty.
20100722 20:47:29< Blarumyrran> Zerovirus, tens or hundreds of millions of people are descended from Gengis khan
20100722 20:47:34< Zerovirus> EXACTLY
20100722 20:47:35< Zerovirus> I know that
20100722 20:47:42< Hulavuta> That also explains why all Vietnamese people have the same last name
20100722 20:47:47< Zerovirus> lol
20100722 20:48:13< Blarumyrran> I'm patrilineally descended from a noble whose family has its own wikipedia page, but no king :(
20100722 20:48:31< Hulavuta> When they overthrowed a crappy king, they would kill him and his family for three generations
20100722 20:48:40< Gambit> I'm descended from Adam.
20100722 20:48:41< Hulavuta> The family would change their last name to a family known for being large
20100722 20:49:01< Hulavuta> And therefore there would only be a few names
20100722 20:49:12< Zerovirus> Gambit: I'm descended from Xenu -awesomefacesmiley-
20100722 20:49:17< Hulavuta> So it's most likely that I am descended from a shitty king
20100722 20:49:24< Hulavuta> :-(
20100722 20:49:35< Blarumyrran> Hulavuta, he was a king though
20100722 20:49:44< Hulavuta> Yeah but he got overthrown because he sucked
20100722 20:49:45< Blarumyrran> so at least some of the people he descended from must not have been shitty
20100722 20:49:52< Blarumyrran> Otherwise he wouldn't have been a king
20100722 20:49:52< Hulavuta> Overthrown
20100722 20:50:10< Hulavuta> There were a lot of overthrowings, that's why there were a lot of people with the same last name
20100722 20:50:22< Hulavuta> I like to joke that it's because Vietnam is so poor, they can't afford many last names
20100722 20:53:28< Hulavuta> I'm assuming you guys are all laughing so hard you can't type
20100722 20:53:30< Hulavuta> a reply
20100722 20:53:51< Gambit> No.
20100722 20:54:03< Gambit> I'm trying to come up of a list of all the television shows that made that joke.
20100722 20:54:14< Hulavuta> :-(
20100722 20:54:16< Gambit> But I think it'd be shorter to choose ones that didn't.
20100722 20:54:36< Zerovirus> Okay that made me laugh
20100722 20:54:39< Hulavuta> I can only think of one
20100722 20:55:54< Zerovirus> I should start posting stuff on opengameart >.>
20100722 20:57:00< Gambit> Blarumyrran: Mountains do not play nicely with the overlays
20100722 20:57:16< Blarumyrran> How so
20100722 20:57:31< Blarumyrran> Are they partly on top of them?
20100722 20:57:47< Gambit> Yeah
20100722 20:57:54< Zerovirus> Wow, even artisticdude and Telaron have submissions in there
20100722 20:57:57< Zerovirus> What am I waiting for?
20100722 20:58:28< Blarumyrran> Justinoperable and me too
20100722 20:58:30< Hulavuta> I'm going now
20100722 20:58:33< Hulavuta> bye
20100722 20:58:42< Hulavuta> Yell if you need me
20100722 20:59:00< Zerovirus> Oh huh and some Frogatto tilesets too
20100722 20:59:16< shadowmaster> older ones though
20100722 20:59:21< Zerovirus> Ah, by Neorice.
20100722 21:01:26< Gambit> shadowmaster: sand hills instead of sand?
20100722 21:01:29< Gambit> err
20100722 21:01:34< Zerovirus> Oh I recognize that Turnip armor haha
20100722 21:01:37< Gambit> s/shadowmaster/blarumyrran/
20100722 21:02:26< Zerovirus> Right that was fun, back to sprites
20100722 21:02:28< Blarumyrran> No
20100722 21:02:29< Gambit> or water
20100722 21:02:43< Blarumyrran> Hills -> grass -> hills again would be awkward.
20100722 21:02:46< Gambit> they have one move on everything
20100722 21:03:07< Gambit> Blarumyrran: well hills->grass->watertable->dirt(under the water)->cave->chasm ?
20100722 21:03:21< Zerovirus> Wait, are you playing against Blarumyrran or something?
20100722 21:03:28< Blarumyrran> watertable?
20100722 21:03:35< Blarumyrran> Watery vegetable?
20100722 21:03:42< Blarumyrran> Or what
20100722 21:03:42< Gambit> Blarumyrran: water table
20100722 21:03:49< Gambit> a layer of underground water
20100722 21:03:55< Blarumyrran> Uh. Table in what sense?
20100722 21:03:59< Gambit> Dunno
20100722 21:04:04< Gambit> that's the name though afaik
20100722 21:04:16< Zerovirus> I prefer waterdesks myself
20100722 21:05:10< Blarumyrran> Gambit, naah
20100722 21:05:37< Blarumyrran> The sudden appearance and disappearance of water makes it discontinuous
20100722 21:08:19 * Gambit doesn't know what else to do
20100722 21:08:37< Gambit> Why didn't sand work again?
20100722 21:08:46< Zerovirus> Did you break Breaking Ground? :P
20100722 21:09:26< Gambit> No
20100722 21:09:41< Hulavuta>    He Grounded it
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20100722 21:11:45< Gambit> I brokered it.
20100722 21:13:10< Hulavuta> That sucks
20100722 21:13:56< Blarumyrran> Gambit, grass is on soil, not sand
20100722 21:14:10< Blarumyrran> So sand between grass and soil is weird
20100722 21:14:25< Blarumyrran> Slightly
20100722 21:14:37< Blarumyrran> But not as weird as water, anyway
20100722 21:15:05< Gambit> so I'll just swap em
20100722 21:15:45< Blarumyrran> No
20100722 21:15:48< Blarumyrran> Let it be
20100722 21:15:58< Gambit> Speaking words of wisdom.
20100722 21:16:15< Blarumyrran> Let it be, let it be.
20100722 21:16:56< Blarumyrran> Because soil is dark, and cave is darker, but sand is the brightest of all your terrains and would look awkward in the cycle
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20100722 21:29:02< Gambit> Releasing on addon server
20100722 21:29:04 * Gambit crosses fingers
20100722 21:29:08< Zerovirus> :D
20100722 21:29:32< Gambit> Hmm do I want to GPL it?
20100722 21:29:50< Gambit> No. I will copyright and sell this 17kb addon to an open source video game :o
20100722 21:30:02< Gambit> Okay it's up (and GPL'd) ;)
20100722 21:30:38< Gambit> Some (possibly evil) part of me hesitates every time before I finally hit the button to accept that agreement.
20100722 21:30:58< Zerovirus> I''ll go download it now
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20100722 21:31:01< Zerovirus> Anyone want to play a match?
20100722 21:31:04< Hulavuta> I never hesitate, because I know my stuff sucks so much no one will ever want to steal it
20100722 21:31:12< Gambit> Zerovirus: Sounds good.
20100722 21:31:28< Zerovirus> I never hesitate because I've never uploaded before :D
20100722 21:31:44< Gambit> Zerovirus: You've uploaded to the forums
20100722 21:31:44< Hulavuta> Isn't putting your sprites on the forum GPL'ing them too?
20100722 21:31:49< Hulavuta> Damnit, ninja'd
20100722 21:31:49< Gambit> Which is GPL unless otherwise stated.
20100722 21:32:00< Zerovirus> Yeah, but there's no explicit agreement you have to sign and thus be pressurized by there
20100722 21:32:00< Gambit> (except music I guess?)
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20100722 21:32:11< Zerovirus> Also you can choose to explicitly license something under something else
20100722 21:32:16< Gambit> true
20100722 21:32:17< Zerovirus> Like I did with those tanks and soldiers of mine
20100722 21:32:35< Gambit> PetePorty, Blarumyrran, shadowmaster: poke
20100722 21:32:47< PetePorty> In a game
20100722 21:32:52< shadowmaster> no, I don't feel like playing Breaking Ground.
20100722 21:32:54< Zerovirus> We should have a 4p match, Me, Gambs, Blarumyrran, and SM
20100722 21:32:54< Gambit> Of course now that it's on the addon server I can recruit from teh lobbyzor.
20100722 21:32:56< Zerovirus> Darnit
20100722 21:33:04< Hulavuta> O'll play?
20100722 21:33:09< Zerovirus> I need to go read the new updated rules
20100722 21:33:09< Hulavuta> *I'll
20100722 21:33:12< Gambit> Hulavuta: cool beans
20100722 21:33:17< Hulavuta> wut
20100722 21:33:30< Hulavuta> Hopefully this time I won't suck as much
20100722 21:33:33< Zerovirus> Gambit, you make the game
20100722 21:33:36< Gambit> kk
20100722 21:33:53< Gambit> I wonder what the purpose of "kk" is...
20100722 21:34:00< Gambit> It's the same number of letters as "ok"
20100722 21:34:05< Gambit> And o and k aren't that far apart.
20100722 21:34:10< Gambit> I think I shall stop using it.
20100722 21:34:12< Hulavuta> That's how lazy people are
20100722 21:34:13< Hulavuta> kk
20100722 21:34:14< Zerovirus> Oh man Elvish pillager and PK are both playing a custom game
20100722 21:34:22< Hulavuta> Who is PK?
20100722 21:34:23< Zerovirus> So many things I could observe, so little time
20100722 21:34:27< Zerovirus> psychotickittens
20100722 21:34:30< Hulavuta> kk
20100722 21:34:41< Zerovirus> Gambit, hurry up man
20100722 21:34:49< Gambit> We need a fourth.
20100722 21:35:52< The_User> Hi! What is the difference between filter and filter_self in abilities?
20100722 21:36:28< Zerovirus> Hey anyone else want to join our addon test game
20100722 21:36:29< Zerovirus> please
20100722 21:36:30< Zerovirus> :P
20100722 21:36:41< Gambit> The_User: filter_self filters the unit with the ability
20100722 21:37:39< The_User> Gambit: and filter?
20100722 21:38:22< Hulavuta> WTF WHAT HAPPEN
20100722 21:38:43< Hulavuta> Gambit: Are you rehosting?
20100722 21:38:51< Gambit> Hulavuta: yes
20100722 21:38:55< Gambit> The_User: filter filters all
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20100722 21:39:15< Hulavuta> The game keeps crashing for some reason
20100722 21:39:19< Hulavuta> I don't think I can make it
20100722 21:40:00< PetePorty> Hula, are you coming?
20100722 21:40:02< Hulavuta> Wesnoth keeps crashing
20100722 21:40:05< Hulavuta> Sorry, I can't
20100722 21:40:19< Gambit> Hwæt?
20100722 21:40:27< Gambit> That puts us back down to thre...
20100722 21:41:16< Hulavuta> It crashed again
20100722 21:41:37< Hulavuta> What is the room called? Maybe it has to do with my using the filter
20100722 21:42:41< Hulavuta> Okay then
20100722 21:44:20< Hulavuta> DAMNIT
20100722 21:44:23< Hulavuta> I keep Crashing
20100722 21:45:06< Zerovirus> Yeah I know seriously
20100722 21:45:07< Zerovirus> wth
20100722 21:45:39< Hulavuta> Are you being sarcastic?
20100722 21:47:19< PetePorty> ...
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20100722 21:48:21< Hulavuta> I couldn't tell
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20100722 21:49:17< Zerovirus> No I am not
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20100722 21:50:07< Hulavuta> Ok
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20100722 22:17:47< Telaron> Anyone notice that there art now 15000 Wesnoth forum members?
20100722 22:18:08< Hulavuta> Yes
20100722 22:18:21< Hulavuta> You know what that means...
20100722 22:18:32< Telaron> What?
20100722 22:18:41< Hulavuta> Hulavuta, what does the scouter say about the member count?
20100722 22:18:45< Hulavuta> IT'S OVER 9000!!!!!
20100722 22:18:50< Hulavuta> Okay I'm done
20100722 22:19:24< Telaron> o_O
20100722 22:19:59< Hulavuta> I know
20100722 22:20:39< Telaron> When I signed up, there was only 12000 of us. That was six months ago!
20100722 22:20:55< Hulavuta> Most of them don't post
20100722 22:22:02< Telaron> There's probably about three to four-hundred constant members who post.
20100722 22:22:27< Hulavuta> Yep
20100722 22:22:33< Hulavuta> Maybe 50
20100722 22:22:45< Hulavuta> We should have a survery
20100722 22:22:48< Hulavuta> *survey
20100722 22:22:58< Hulavuta> "Do you frequent the forums? Yes/No"
20100722 22:23:07< Hulavuta> Not a poll though
20100722 22:23:42< Hulavuta> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=30871
20100722 22:23:48< Hulavuta> Isn't there already an extended era?
20100722 22:24:03< Telaron> Yep
20100722 22:24:07< Hulavuta> So,
20100722 22:26:18< Blarumyrran> A person new to the game has no obligation to know of the content that already exists, especially non-mainline stuff such as Extended Era
20100722 22:26:26< Hulavuta> I know
20100722 22:26:40< Hulavuta> That's why I told him/her in a very polite and friendly way. :-D
20100722 22:26:44< Blarumyrran> It's easy to forget that if you've been around for a while
20100722 22:26:59< Hulavuta> (4:26:26 PM) Hulavuta: I know
20100722 22:26:59< Hulavuta> (4:26:41 PM) Hulavuta: That's why I told him/her in a very polite and friendly way. :-D
20100722 22:27:08< Hulavuta> And the brain damage
20100722 22:27:12< Hulavuta> and the brain damage
20100722 22:27:16< Hulavuta> Okay, I'm done
20100722 22:27:20< Blarumyrran> Yeah, I didn't see you answered yet then
20100722 22:27:42< Hulavuta> Remember Zigg's Huge RPG?
20100722 22:27:45< Telaron> I did. That's fast typing.
20100722 22:27:57< Telaron> I remember...
20100722 22:28:00< Hulavuta> You did what? What's fast typing?
20100722 22:28:10< Zerovirus> It's typing
20100722 22:28:10< Blarumyrran> I remember
20100722 22:28:12< Zerovirus> but FAST
20100722 22:28:21< Hulavuta> I know, but what was typed fast?
20100722 22:28:51< Telaron> The fact that you already told him about the existence of the Extended Era
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20100722 22:29:02< Hulavuta> oh
20100722 22:29:24< Hulavuta> Last year, when I was in a very less mature chat room, I would always say:
20100722 22:29:50< Hulavuta> The guy under me is retarded
20100722 22:30:09< Hulavuta> And that would end the retarded conversation
20100722 22:30:20< Telaron> So the chat room has matured?
20100722 22:30:33< Hulavuta> Nope
20100722 22:30:33< Blarumyrran> That might suggest that you are gay though
20100722 22:30:35< Hulavuta> It was taken down
20100722 22:30:46< Hulavuta> Blarumyrran: how?
20100722 22:30:54< Blarumyrran> If you consider "under" as in, in real life there is a guy under you
20100722 22:31:03< Hulavuta> What about if I was on a bunk bed?
20100722 22:31:08< Blarumyrran> And to make things worse, he is retarded
20100722 22:31:11< Hulavuta> lol
20100722 22:31:27< Hulavuta> What if I was in a multiple story building?
20100722 22:31:36< Hulavuta> Blarumyrran: That's very immature. Lol
20100722 22:31:44< Blarumyrran> Yes, yes it is
20100722 22:31:47< Hulavuta> oooh
20100722 22:31:48< Telaron> Or in an airplane...
20100722 22:31:50< Hulavuta> i c wut u did thar
20100722 22:32:05< Hulavuta> you pretended to be the people in the chat room
20100722 22:32:13< shadowmaster> we don't need that immaturity here, thanks
20100722 22:32:23< Hulavuta> Telaron: the chat room hasn't matured, it was closed down
20100722 22:32:38< Hulavuta> It was a YouTube stream, which was cancelled
20100722 22:32:44< Telaron> Ah, I see.
20100722 22:32:54< Hulavuta> And ironically the admin there was A LOT like shadow master
20100722 22:33:15< Telaron> odd, I wonder why?
20100722 22:33:21< Hulavuta> Except he capitalized his sentences
20100722 22:33:26< Blarumyrran> Masterful and shadowy
20100722 22:34:40< Hulavuta> I guess all the same type of people get chosen to be admins
20100722 22:35:13< Telaron> Shadowmaster, thespaceinvader, ...kitty?
20100722 22:35:31< Blarumyrran> Telaron, Tsi and kitty aren't admins?
20100722 22:35:48< Telaron> True...
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20100722 22:36:17< shadowmaster> TSI is a deputy admin, actually.
20100722 22:36:41< Telaron> Yeah, my bad.
20100722 22:36:51< shadowmaster> except he doesn'thave a server account like me.
20100722 22:36:52< Hulavuta> Are we talking about forums or chat rooms?>
20100722 22:36:59< shadowmaster> forums.
20100722 22:37:15< Blarumyrran> Forum admin = wobsite admin?
20100722 22:37:21< Hulavuta> I was talking about chat admins
20100722 22:37:23< Hulavuta> but carry on
20100722 22:37:24< shadowmaster> no.
20100722 22:37:41< shadowmaster> I can do a lot of stuff with the website, including taking all of it down, but I'm not a website admin.
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20100722 22:38:22< Telaron> So who is GAAA? His name is dark blue. Never seen that before.
20100722 22:38:28< Hulavuta> We have to appease him, or he'll annhilify the whole forum
20100722 22:38:35< Hulavuta> Telaron: He's shadowmaster but in disguise
20100722 22:39:02< Zerovirus> Coolest dude ever?
20100722 22:39:11< Hulavuta> He's shadowmaster but in disguise
20100722 22:39:21< Zerovirus> Man, SM, how many accounts do you have? SM, Shikadilord, and now this... Thing?
20100722 22:39:24< Telaron> really?
20100722 22:39:33< Hulavuta> Check the logs, he said it. I think
20100722 22:39:42< Hulavuta> it's either him, or a "very close personal friend that is very shy"
20100722 22:39:54< Zerovirus> It says he has 3 posts but I can't find any on search
20100722 22:39:59< Zerovirus> Does this mean secret admin subforum?
20100722 22:40:14< Hulavuta> no
20100722 22:40:14< Hulavuta> yes
20100722 22:40:21< Telaron> Maybe he was banned?
20100722 22:40:35< Hulavuta> Also the admin there, his name started with an "s" too!
20100722 22:40:40< Telaron> *joking*
20100722 22:40:47< Hulavuta> and then a consanant AFTER that s!
20100722 22:40:53< Hulavuta> and then a vowel!
20100722 22:40:57< Hulavuta> just like SM!
20100722 22:41:32< Hulavuta> and then another consanant, and then another vowel, and then another consanant
20100722 22:41:34< Hulavuta> and then a 4
20100722 22:41:55< shadowmaster> you sound like a 4 years old kid.
20100722 22:42:03< shadowmaster> that's not good.
20100722 22:42:03< Hulavuta> :-(
20100722 22:42:10< shadowmaster> :(
20100722 22:42:12< Hulavuta> :-D
20100722 22:42:29< shadowmaster> yes, that account is mine.
20100722 22:42:31< Hulavuta> emoticons make me look 3, right?
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20100722 22:42:40< Zerovirus> Yes they do
20100722 22:42:41< Hulavuta> hi artisticdude
20100722 22:42:47< Zerovirus> But you usually look 2 so it's an improvement
20100722 22:42:51< Hulavuta> wtf
20100722 22:42:52< artisticdude> Hi all.
20100722 22:42:54< Telaron> What's the rank for?
20100722 22:43:06< Hulavuta> "Because it is true"
20100722 22:43:41< Zerovirus> Because it's SM and he can do anything
20100722 22:44:16< Zerovirus> Just like spiderman
20100722 22:44:17< Hulavuta> SM=Spiderman?
20100722 22:44:17< Hulavuta> Now I see...
20100722 22:44:17< Zerovirus> :O
20100722 22:44:17< Zerovirus> Holy crap you're genius
20100722 22:44:17< Gambit> not exactly
20100722 22:44:17< Zerovirus> My impressions of you has gone up to 4 years old
20100722 22:44:17< Telaron> Hahaha!
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20100722 22:44:18< Zerovirus> Also my grammar sux
20100722 22:44:18< Hulavuta> Yay
20100722 22:44:31< Telaron> We all made shadowmaster qui!
20100722 22:44:32< Gambit> Strange
20100722 22:44:33< Zerovirus> I just realized
20100722 22:44:38< Zerovirus> I never finished my Magus sprite
20100722 22:44:38< shadowmaster> Telaron: nope.
20100722 22:44:38< Gambit> the server refuses to let me connect.
20100722 22:44:40< Zerovirus> too busy playing GEB
20100722 22:44:41< Gambit> I must have failed that badly.
20100722 22:44:49< Zerovirus> The server refuses to let me observe PK's game
20100722 22:44:52< Hulavuta> I'm got a C in Math and an A in Language Arts. I must be the reverse asian
20100722 22:44:54< Gambit> It d/c'd after I left the game.
20100722 22:44:56< Telaron> ???
20100722 22:44:59< Gambit> Zerovirus: Well you did fail that badly.
20100722 22:45:04< Gambit> For sure. :P :)
20100722 22:45:06< Zerovirus> Hah it just let me in
20100722 22:45:18< Gambit> The server is a forgiving master.
20100722 22:45:18< shadowmaster> I just want to go to take a nap.
20100722 22:45:32< Zerovirus> Go and take your nap
20100722 22:45:35< Gambit> shadowmaster: sleeping away the pain doesn't work
20100722 22:45:36< Zerovirus> I'm sure even spiders take naps
20100722 22:45:38< Gambit> It's too painful to sleep.
20100722 22:45:55< artisticdude> Extraterrestrial zombies are all I can seem to sprite ATM. :/
20100722 22:45:59< shadowmaster> Gambit: it's not the pain that bothers me
20100722 22:46:01< Gambit> Just painful enough to not let you sleep; not painful enough to knock you out.
20100722 22:46:05< shadowmaster> I've got a headache since I woke up this morning.
20100722 22:46:20< Zerovirus> artisticdude: I'm out of inspiration too
20100722 22:46:23< Gambit> That's What I Meant™
20100722 22:46:29< Gambit> No wait let me redo that
20100722 22:46:30< Zerovirus> Want to finish my magus for me? It's a cheap chance at contributorship :P
20100722 22:46:36< shadowmaster> and I can't really concentrate on anything with a headache.
20100722 22:46:39< Telaron> Funny, I didn't have a headache before I joined IRC... : )
20100722 22:46:40< Gambit> Is What I Say™
20100722 22:46:45< artisticdude> XD
20100722 22:47:31< artisticdude> I really want to redo some of the loyalists. Transparent pixels, soft-edged shadows, even pure black outlines in places...
20100722 22:47:35< Hulavuta> DX
20100722 22:47:47< Hulavuta> artisticdude: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=30871&p=444655#p444655
20100722 22:48:12< artisticdude> What the heck?
20100722 22:48:12< Telaron> Black outlines? horrors!
20100722 22:48:13< Zerovirus> The loys were some of Jet's first contributions
20100722 22:48:19< artisticdude> *Sigh*
20100722 22:48:20< shadowmaster> Gambit: in any case I'm doing well.
20100722 22:48:21< Zerovirus> I've said that the loys need a redo
20100722 22:48:27< Zerovirus> and Jet's like 'NO THE LOYS ARE DONE ARRRRGH"
20100722 22:48:32< Hulavuta> artisticdude: wut u meen
20100722 22:48:37< shadowmaster> since it's stitched it shouldn't take too long to get better.
20100722 22:48:50< Gambit> New reason to love linux:
20100722 22:48:55< artisticdude> The loys are really showing their age next to the newer sprites, IMO.
20100722 22:48:56< Gambit> Screenshot button actually saves screenshot.
20100722 22:49:08< Gambit> Second reason to love linux: Screenshot button defaults to png instead of jpeg
20100722 22:49:15< Hulavuta> artisticdude: Did you take a look at the topic?
20100722 22:49:16< Zerovirus> Seriously, the spearmen and lieutenant could really use some creeping biggerism effects
20100722 22:49:20< Zerovirus> Same goes for the bowmen
20100722 22:49:20< artisticdude> Hulavuta: The guy didn't listen to anything I said.
20100722 22:49:25< Hulavuta> I know
20100722 22:49:27< shadowmaster> but boy does this headache bother me.
20100722 22:49:28< Hulavuta> But am I right?
20100722 22:49:35< Zerovirus> I'm not sure he understood what you meant by IDs and renaming.
20100722 22:49:39< artisticdude> AFAIK, yes.
20100722 22:50:08< artisticdude> He should, if he managed to create an era.
20100722 22:50:09< Blarumyrran> shadowmaster, you're forbidden from taking paracetamol?
20100722 22:50:16< Hulavuta> I had a good idea for a forum game
20100722 22:50:25< Hulavuta> But I'm not sure if I should post it
20100722 22:50:26< Zerovirus> artisticdude: Why don't you redo the Loys then? Do it as a separate project and don't tell anyone
20100722 22:50:33< shadowmaster> Blarumyrran: no, but I just don't want to.
20100722 22:50:43< Zerovirus> Make sure you've done all the animations, then post this huge bundle of pictures and tell people to commit it :P
20100722 22:50:53< artisticdude> Because I don't feel ready for it yet.
20100722 22:50:55< Zerovirus> Chances are they'll do it just to appease your hard work (though it's an asshole move)
20100722 22:50:59< Telaron> See yo guys! Dinner beckons! 
20100722 22:51:00< Tomsik> shadowmaster: lemon balm
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20100722 22:51:16< Hulavuta> I'm going to share my idea:
20100722 22:51:34< Zerovirus> Ten bucks says the idea sucks :P
20100722 22:51:37< Zerovirus> (jk)
20100722 22:51:40< artisticdude> Although I really should try that, Zerovirus. Just keep doing them over and over again until I get something right.
20100722 22:51:43< Tomsik> Make that twenty
20100722 22:51:50< artisticdude> 30
20100722 22:51:57< Zerovirus> Seriously, at least the spearman could be redone
20100722 22:51:58< Tomsik> fifty
20100722 22:51:59< Hulavuta> Forget it....
20100722 22:52:01< Zerovirus> It has like no animations at the moment
20100722 22:52:04< Gambit> Interesting
20100722 22:52:13< Gambit> you can corrup replays by repeatedly clicking the "play side turn" button
20100722 22:52:14< Zerovirus> a hundred
20100722 22:52:21< artisticdude> Major's doing the attack animation for the spearman.
20100722 22:52:51< Hulavuta> Silly Europeans doing everything the opposite way
20100722 22:53:00< Zerovirus> Hulavuta: That's your idea?
20100722 22:53:10< Zerovirus> I mean it might be entertaining, but what?
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20100722 22:53:29< Zerovirus> Wait, so instead of Germany attacking a country, everyone in Europe invades Germany!
20100722 22:53:30< Zerovirus> GENIUS
20100722 22:53:47< Blarumyrran> In Soviet Europe, ... ?
20100722 22:54:13< Hulavuta> Forget it, it was a stupid idea
20100722 22:54:18< Tomsik> <troll>In Soviet Russia God created humans</troll>
20100722 22:54:23< Zerovirus> HA YOU ALL OWE ME A HUNDRED DOLLARS
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20100722 22:55:23< artisticdude> I sooo want to redo the swordsman, if nothing else. That attack animation is pathetic.
20100722 22:55:26< artisticdude>  Although I haven't animated anything in a while.
20100722 22:55:34< artisticdude> Not since Melinath's day.
20100722 22:55:38< Hulavuta> Tomsik: Stop being such a troll
20100722 22:55:40< Zerovirus> I haven't animated anything to a final satisfying produc
20100722 22:55:44< Zerovirus> *product
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20100722 22:55:49< Zerovirus> Ever, in fact.
20100722 22:56:11< Blarumyrran> Hulavuta, it's too late; 4chan has him
20100722 22:56:16< Hulavuta> lol
20100722 22:56:23< Tomsik> No u.
20100722 22:56:29< Zerovirus> And there we go... The 4chan... HASS the TROLL
20100722 22:56:33< artisticdude> Nor have I. I've animate some crap, blocked some decent animations, and even had a fairly good one semi-shaded once (lost in a computer crash) :(
20100722 22:56:44< artisticdude> *animated*
20100722 22:56:47< Zerovirus> Hm. Does anyone think I should get myself a more upgraded avvy?
20100722 22:56:56< Zerovirus> I have a few concepts I might apply onto him.
20100722 22:57:00< Zerovirus> (the huge sword stays though)
20100722 22:57:12< artisticdude> I was about to say
20100722 22:57:18< artisticdude> Keep the oversized sword.
20100722 22:57:36< Zerovirus> So is that support for a new avatar?
20100722 22:57:42< Zerovirus> Of course I'll probably redesign the sword
20100722 22:57:49< Zerovirus> Make it even more overcomplex huge
20100722 22:58:05< artisticdude> It is.
20100722 22:58:30< artisticdude> Because then I'll have more material for study. XD
20100722 22:58:38< Zerovirus> Aaaalright. Now where did I put that concept sketch?
20100722 22:58:45< Zerovirus> This might be the only time I've ever sprited from a sketch.
20100722 22:59:01< artisticdude> A sketch on paper?
20100722 23:00:08< Zerovirus> Actually in my ACT textbook
20100722 23:00:13< Zerovirus> ACT math is friggin easy
20100722 23:00:19< artisticdude> Lol.
20100722 23:00:25< Zerovirus> Ah, found it.
20100722 23:00:52< Tomsik> what's ACT?
20100722 23:00:59< Hulavuta> I have a question
20100722 23:01:09< artisticdude> I appreciate your advice about using stickmen to find a dynamic pose, Zerovirus. It helps a lot. :)
20100722 23:01:14< Hulavuta> Anybody remember that old show Zack and Cody?
20100722 23:01:26< Zerovirus> One day I'll show you guys some of my animations
20100722 23:01:29< Zerovirus> They were totally awesome
20100722 23:01:35< Zerovirus> I need to learn how to Flash.
20100722 23:01:53< Zerovirus> ACT is some sort of college test thign
20100722 23:01:53< Zerovirus> Bluh
20100722 23:01:54< Blarumyrran> Zerovirus, download mxmlc
20100722 23:02:18< Blarumyrran> With that, it's just like any other programming language, except more stupid
20100722 23:02:35< Zerovirus> Well, with Flash animations, all you really have to do is graphics
20100722 23:02:37< Hulavuta> What does BM stand for?
20100722 23:02:38< Zerovirus> Coding is very much optional
20100722 23:02:42< Zerovirus> BLACK MAGE
20100722 23:02:44< Zerovirus> BLASTER MAN
20100722 23:02:48< Zerovirus> BIG MUSCLES
20100722 23:02:53< artisticdude> BIG MAMA
20100722 23:03:03< Blarumyrran> Zerovirus, with mxmlc you can make swfs out of only text files
20100722 23:03:09< Zerovirus> ...Huh.
20100722 23:03:10< Blarumyrran> graphics are optional
20100722 23:03:20< Zerovirus> But what is the point of making a stick anim without graphics? :P
20100722 23:03:31< Hulavuta> Bowel Movement
20100722 23:03:35< Blarumyrran> Well, you can define the sticks by code too
20100722 23:03:36< Hulavuta> Aka taking a poo
20100722 23:03:42< Hulavuta> Zack and Cody is a messed up show...
20100722 23:03:46< Zerovirus> aaah I left my sheet of avatar parts somewhere and I can't find it
20100722 23:03:54 * Gambit feels like he accomplished something today.
20100722 23:04:01< Hulavuta> how
20100722 23:04:06< artisticdude> You did.
20100722 23:04:15< Gambit> Normally I just waste my days.
20100722 23:04:19< Zerovirus> Me too! :D
20100722 23:04:20< Gambit> Making lists == works
20100722 23:04:34< Gambit> Mom thinks she's so clever >_> <_< >_>
20100722 23:04:54 * artisticdude doesn't feel like he accomplished anything today
20100722 23:05:21< artisticdude> Except doodling zombie aliens.
20100722 23:06:06< Gambit> o_O
20100722 23:06:09< Zerovirus> Just my luck. They make a forum faction using peoples' avatars and right as the dev finishes putting in all the pics I decide I need a new avatar
20100722 23:06:12< Gambit> greatest youtube video ever: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FavUpD_IjVY
20100722 23:06:44< artisticdude> That's no problem, it only takes a second to switch the files.
20100722 23:07:10< Gambit> I'm going to have nightmares about cows now.
20100722 23:07:45< artisticdude> Gambit:http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=30778&start=28
20100722 23:08:11< Gambit> contorted
20100722 23:08:42< artisticdude> It all started as an innocent arm making a muscle.
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20100722 23:09:07< Hulavuta> LOLOLOLOLOL
20100722 23:09:42< shadowmaster> Gambit: O_o
20100722 23:09:43< Hulavuta> Favorit'd, lol
20100722 23:09:59< shadowmaster> it's so silly, but so awesome at the same time
20100722 23:10:16< Blarumyrran> yes
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20100722 23:11:08< Hulavuta> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_3RldiXlHA&videos=WTgxSeeXHzg
20100722 23:11:26< Zerovirus> I'm not sure what color scheme to go with for this new avvy
20100722 23:11:41< Zerovirus> My old avatar's armor? A bronze? My old old avatar's silver-bluish color?
20100722 23:11:49< Hulavuta> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_3RldiXlHA
20100722 23:12:44< artisticdude> Holy crap Gambit, that video's awesome. 
20100722 23:13:04< artisticdude> I'm betting they used Autodesk software for that.
20100722 23:13:14< Hulavuta> No, silly
20100722 23:13:17< Hulavuta> These are REAL
20100722 23:13:46< artisticdude> Zerovirus: Bronze. It's new.
20100722 23:14:01< Zerovirus> I was thinking old avatar's color main and bronze trim
20100722 23:14:33< artisticdude> Sweet.
20100722 23:14:58< artisticdude> Ugh. I keep forgetting I hate that expression.
20100722 23:15:11< artisticdude> Sounds like something a little girl says in the candy shop.
20100722 23:15:34< artisticdude> Although "coolio" is as bad or worse.
20100722 23:16:01< Hulavuta> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvlxDcALQ6g
20100722 23:16:10< Zerovirus> Gambit: What the hell was that video
20100722 23:16:13< Zerovirus> You just killed my spriting mood
20100722 23:16:15< Zerovirus> Thanks
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20100722 23:17:16< artisticdude> If you're like me, you're either going to avoid spriting for a few days or risk spriting distended cows.
20100722 23:17:59< Zerovirus> Actually I have it back now
20100722 23:18:12< Zerovirus> Though you're right I should sprite a spider cow with cowhead joints
20100722 23:18:15< Blarumyrran> Hello!
20100722 23:18:16< Zerovirus> That'd be a nice exercise
20100722 23:18:17< Blarumyrran> 1) Why doesn't the 1.8 section of units.wesnoth.org have addon content, but 1.6 does?
20100722 23:18:32< Hulavuta> because yes
20100722 23:18:48< Blarumyrran> 2) Why are, in the 1.6 section, addons ordered so weirdly?
20100722 23:19:01< Blarumyrran> (in the left bar)
20100722 23:19:20< Zerovirus> because alphabet I think
20100722 23:20:25< Blarumyrran> AOL 
20100722 23:20:25< Blarumyrran> AoG 
20100722 23:20:25< Blarumyrran> AE 
20100722 23:20:25< Blarumyrran> A 
20100722 23:20:25< Blarumyrran> BAE 
20100722 23:20:26< Blarumyrran> BEE BGE(b) 
20100722 23:20:28< Blarumyrran> BfTE 
20100722 23:20:30< Blarumyrran> BRE
20100722 23:20:35< Blarumyrran> Oops, wasn't meant as separate lines
20100722 23:20:42< Zerovirus> I'm pretty sure that's alphaorder
20100722 23:20:52< Zerovirus> Oh wait no
20100722 23:21:05< elias> probably ordered by the un-abbreviated names
20100722 23:21:06< Zerovirus> letters capitalized are apparently in precedence to lowercase
20100722 23:21:18< elias> or that
20100722 23:21:22< artisticdude> Dang. The call for consumables comes at the most annoying times.
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20100722 23:21:44< Hulavuta> mmm beef
20100722 23:22:20< Blarumyrran> Zerovirus, no
20100722 23:22:39< Zerovirus> mmm spiderbeef
20100722 23:22:47< Blarumyrran> as you may see above, AOL is before AE, but BAE is before BRE
20100722 23:22:49< Zerovirus> mmm distended beef
20100722 23:23:06< Blarumyrran> So I guess it's elias's version
20100722 23:23:34< Hulavuta> mmm yogurt
20100722 23:23:43< elias> i wrote the ordering code, but i forgot what it does :P
20100722 23:30:46< Gambit> It just slaps em up there.
20100722 23:34:19< Gambit> wesbot: seen ancestral?
20100722 23:34:19< wesbot> Gambit: Whatever you say...
20100722 23:34:19< wesbot> Gambit: The person with the nick ancestral 12h 42m ago was here and on the channel #wesnoth-dev with the message: Quit: And that’s the end of THAT chapter.
20100722 23:36:21< Gambit> Odd response is odd [17:34:22] <wesbot> Gambit: Whatever you say...
20100722 23:36:38< Gambit> wesbot: You're the coolest bot in the world.
20100722 23:36:39< wesbot> Gambit: Whatever you say...
20100722 23:36:44< Hulavuta> wesbot: seen elvish_sovereign
20100722 23:36:44< wesbot> Hulavuta: Whatever you say...
20100722 23:36:44< wesbot> Hulavuta: The person with the nick elvish_sovereign last spoke 19h 16m ago.  17h 48m ago was here and on the channels #wesnoth-dev and #wesnoth-umc-dev with the message: Quit: elvish_sovereign
20100722 23:38:32< Zerovirus> Hah, actually I think I'm going to take away the bronze and just use the previous avatar's colors
20100722 23:38:39< Zerovirus> This new one's going to be a fusion of all the avatars I've had
20100722 23:38:45< Zerovirus> (which I think is two or three)
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20100722 23:59:45< elvish_sovereign> Hulavuta?
20100722 23:59:49< elvish_sovereign> You were looking fro me?
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