--- Log opened Fri Jul 23 00:00:18 2010
20100723 00:02:21< Hulavuta> wut
20100723 00:02:29< Hulavuta> How did you know that?
20100723 00:02:44< Hulavuta> Does it alert you?
20100723 00:03:11< Zerovirus> E_S? You were looking for me?
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20100723 00:03:51< elvish_sovereign> earlier
20100723 00:03:55< elvish_sovereign> if you looked at the time
20100723 00:04:04< elvish_sovereign> it was 2 mins before i sent you that pm
20100723 00:04:09< elvish_sovereign> Hulavuta: yes
20100723 00:04:09< Zerovirus> An entire day earlier :P
20100723 00:04:22< elvish_sovereign> yes
20100723 00:05:21< Hulavuta> What PM?
20100723 00:05:50< elvish_sovereign> not t you
20100723 00:06:02< elvish_sovereign> to Zerovirus about using his sprites for TWFF
20100723 00:06:17< Hulavuta> oh
20100723 00:06:35< Hulavuta> How did it alert you?
20100723 00:06:39< elvish_sovereign> mmmhm
20100723 00:06:44< elvish_sovereign> private chat
20100723 00:06:54< Hulavuta> wesbot?
20100723 00:06:54< elvish_sovereign> wesbot you mean, right?
20100723 00:06:54< wesbot> elvish_sovereign: Whatever you say...
20100723 00:06:58< elvish_sovereign> xD
20100723 00:07:05< Hulavuta> wesbot send you a message?
20100723 00:07:05< wesbot> Hulavuta: Whatever you say...
20100723 00:07:14< elvish_sovereign> didn't you say
20100723 00:07:25< elvish_sovereign> wesbot seen elvish_sovereign
20100723 00:07:25< wesbot> elvish_sovereign: Whatever you say...
20100723 00:07:25< wesbot> elvish_sovereign: You are elvish_sovereign!
20100723 00:07:26< elvish_sovereign> ?
20100723 00:07:31< elvish_sovereign> wesbot: thank you
20100723 00:07:32< wesbot> elvish_sovereign: You are welcome.
20100723 00:07:39< elvish_sovereign> that was fast...
20100723 00:07:39< wesbot> elvish_sovereign: Sometimes we are fast
20100723 00:07:42< elvish_sovereign> xD
20100723 00:08:57< Hulavuta> wesbot seen Aluminum
20100723 00:08:57< wesbot> Hulavuta: Whatever you say...
20100723 00:08:57< wesbot> Hulavuta: Person, who 3d 1h ago used nick Aluminum, last spoke 10d 7h ago.  7h 20m ago as Automatica they left with the message: Client Quit
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20100723 00:09:22< Valkier> So anyone playing that League of Legends game?
20100723 00:09:23< elvish_sovereign> wesbot: seen Hulavuta 
20100723 00:09:28< wesbot> elvish_sovereign: Whatever you say...
20100723 00:09:30< wesbot> elvish_sovereign: Queried user last spoke 26s ago.  Hulavuta is currently in this channel.
20100723 00:09:34< Aluminum> Y HALO THAR
20100723 00:09:40< elvish_sovereign> hmmm
20100723 00:09:50< Hulavuta> \kick Aluminum
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20100723 00:09:58< Zerovirus> wesbot: seen Chuck_Norris
20100723 00:09:58< wesbot> Zerovirus: Whatever you say...
20100723 00:09:58< wesbot> Zerovirus: Sorry, I don't know of Chuck_Norris.
20100723 00:09:59< Hulavuta> I did it
20100723 00:10:00< Hulavuta> lol
20100723 00:10:05< Zerovirus> :O
20100723 00:10:09< Zerovirus> He doesn't know chuck
20100723 00:10:48< Hulavuta> It's Chuck Norris is the only person who can have a space in his name
20100723 00:10:55< Hulavuta> screenname
20100723 00:11:52< Hulavuta> Zerovirus: nobody can see Chuck Norris and not get killed
20100723 00:11:57< Hulavuta> It's a Chuck Norris fact! duuuhh
20100723 00:13:05< Hulavuta> Dinner time for me!
20100723 00:13:12< Hulavuta> Fried Chicken for the 167678th time in a row
20100723 00:13:16< Hulavuta> Ta-ta
20100723 00:13:18< elvish_sovereign> lawl
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20100723 00:13:24< elvish_sovereign> as you do
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20100723 01:22:28< Zerovirus> ...My new avatar isn't as impressive as I thought he'd be.
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20100723 01:23:00< artisticdude> How come?
20100723 01:23:29< Zerovirus> Eh, it's cooler than my old one but not as cool as I thought
20100723 01:23:34< Zerovirus> maybe time for a different color pallete
20100723 01:23:53< Zerovirus> Or maybe I've just been out of sprite-fu
20100723 01:24:06< artisticdude> I know I am.
20100723 01:24:14< artisticdude> I just found this awesome image online
20100723 01:24:22< artisticdude> That I want to turn into a sprite
20100723 01:24:35< artisticdude> but it isn't working out. :/
20100723 01:25:55< artisticdude> Why do I even bother keeping a gallery on the Wesnoth Journals website?
20100723 01:26:14< Zerovirus> Why do you have a gallery anyways?
20100723 01:26:17< Zerovirus> That's what a sprite thread is for.
20100723 01:26:21< Zerovirus> Also, show me this awesome image
20100723 01:26:48< artisticdude> I don't have the address, I copied to my hard drive.
20100723 01:26:57< artisticdude> I'll try and find it though...
20100723 01:28:17< Zerovirus> Well I'm basically finished with the sprite now. Not really satisfied. Maybe I should get rid of my trademark red cloak thing, it's kinda obscuring the silhouette.
20100723 01:29:54< Zerovirus> Also I'm not sure this will fit into the avatar-size box >.>
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20100723 01:31:01< artisticdude> IIRC, the limit's 90X90, or something around that.
20100723 01:31:30< Zerovirus> 90x90?
20100723 01:31:35< Zerovirus> Crap, this guy's 100x100
20100723 01:31:42< Zerovirus> And that's with me hiding like half the sword behind him
20100723 01:31:58< artisticdude> It might be 100x100, I honestly can't remember
20100723 01:31:58< Zerovirus> Oh wait no the max is 100x100
20100723 01:31:59< Zerovirus> phew
20100723 01:32:15< Zerovirus> Alright, I'll just run it through gimp and trans it and then you all get to see this not so great new avatar
20100723 01:32:42< artisticdude> Ah.
20100723 01:32:44< artisticdude> http://pics.livejournal.com/grrm/pic/00029z46/s320x240
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20100723 01:33:14< artisticdude> This is the first time I've actually tried copying a pose from a reference photo.
20100723 01:33:55< artisticdude> Normally I'll just copy weapons designs and clothing and such.
20100723 01:34:31< Zerovirus> Remember, break it down into a stick figure
20100723 01:34:42< Zerovirus> Not good for anatomy sketches, but great for sprites which don't have official anatomies
20100723 01:34:47< Valkier> Or just break it down.
20100723 01:34:50< Valkier> There's always room for funk.
20100723 01:34:57 * Valkier gets down
20100723 01:34:59< Zerovirus> (Maybe the fact that I specialize in sticks is why I can never do realistic portraits)
20100723 01:35:19 * Valkier slides to the right
20100723 01:35:21 * Valkier hops twice
20100723 01:35:22< artisticdude> Oh yes, the stick method. I forgot to try that.
20100723 01:35:25< artisticdude> What if it breaks me down? :P
20100723 01:35:30 * Zerovirus trips Valkier as he lands the second time
20100723 01:35:42< Zerovirus> Then your brain is weak and deserves to be broken
20100723 01:35:44< Valkier> Et tu, Brute?
20100723 01:37:04< Blarumyrran> Funny you would say that
20100723 01:37:07< artisticdude> My brain's weak with the effort it takes to shut out the noise my brother's making. >.>
20100723 01:37:35< artisticdude> He does orchestral composing, and prefers not to wear headphones. 
20100723 01:37:38< Blarumyrran> Just today morning I read through Julius Caesar act 3. It lends itself really well for parody
20100723 01:38:17< artisticdude> Julius Caesar is an awesome play.
20100723 01:38:21< Blarumyrran> yes
20100723 01:38:24< artisticdude> If done correctly.
20100723 01:38:28< Zerovirus> There, avatar has been updated
20100723 01:38:33< Zerovirus> You can barely see the sword
20100723 01:38:40< artisticdude> If done poorly, it becomes darn funny.
20100723 01:38:41< Zerovirus> I need to do something about the burgeoning cloak
20100723 01:38:49 * artisticdude goes to inspect the avatar
20100723 01:38:51< Valkier> Blarumyrran: It's just muffin.
20100723 01:39:11< Valkier> So yeah, I completely forgot that photoshop had a pencil tool.
20100723 01:39:21< Valkier> I was doing my sprite attempts in paint.
20100723 01:39:23< Blarumyrran> Valkier, muffin in what sense?
20100723 01:39:37< Valkier> Blarumyrran: Just muffin!
20100723 01:40:06< artisticdude> I could swear I'm seeing you're old avatar in there somewhere...
20100723 01:40:14< artisticdude> Maybe it's the pose...
20100723 01:40:24< Zerovirus> Yeah, it's the pose
20100723 01:40:28< Zerovirus> I also recycled the shirt sleeves
20100723 01:40:35< Zerovirus> Go look at my thread now :P
20100723 01:40:37< Blarumyrran> tis pillowshaded
20100723 01:40:45< Valkier> I'll recycle your face!
20100723 01:41:10< Tomsik> I'll recycle your bicycle
20100723 01:41:19< Zerovirus> Yup, some of it is pillowshaded
20100723 01:41:26< Zerovirus> I got kinda tired of it about halfway through
20100723 01:41:27< Valkier> I'll bicycle your tricycle!
20100723 01:41:35< Zerovirus> Actually, most of it is pillowed to some degree, more or less
20100723 01:42:09< Valkier> Zerovirus: Creeping biggerism.
20100723 01:42:12< Tomsik> I'll monocycle your kreb's cycle
20100723 01:42:32< Valkier> I'll unicycle your spin cycle.
20100723 01:42:35< artisticdude> Creeping biggerism is awesome.
20100723 01:42:40< Zerovirus> Eh, kinda
20100723 01:42:41< artisticdude> Sometimes.
20100723 01:42:47< Zerovirus> My other sprite was a lot bigger than this one
20100723 01:42:59< Valkier> Zerovirus: Make me a sprite!
20100723 01:43:05< Zerovirus> Not now, I'm tired
20100723 01:43:09< Zerovirus> I just sprited for like 4 hours
20100723 01:43:09< Valkier> So cruel!
20100723 01:43:15< Valkier> ooo. 4 whole hours eh?
20100723 01:43:24< Valkier> I got about 10 hours of protraits ahead of me.
20100723 01:44:20< Zerovirus> Actually, I've been sitting here for like 8 hours
20100723 01:44:20< Zerovirus> I need to go take a break
20100723 01:44:20 * Zerovirus vamooses
20100723 01:44:29< artisticdude> Oh gosh.
20100723 01:44:38< artisticdude> 10 hours?
20100723 01:44:43< artisticdude> You have my admiration.
20100723 01:44:46< artisticdude> And sympethy.
20100723 01:44:51< Valkier> I'm dedicated to not sucking.
20100723 01:44:52< artisticdude> sympathy*
20100723 01:44:57< Valkier> So far, it hasn't happened however.
20100723 01:45:47< artisticdude> Who put all of this pillow-shaded crap in my gallery?
20100723 01:45:55< artisticdude> Ugh.
20100723 01:45:55< Valkier> It was me.
20100723 01:46:01< artisticdude> I knew it!
20100723 01:46:12< Valkier> I am the hippopotamus.
20100723 01:46:15< artisticdude> I'm taking you to court.
20100723 01:46:25< artisticdude> On charge of pillow shading my gallery.
20100723 01:46:26< Valkier> Do they have a McDonalds there?
20100723 01:46:43< artisticdude> They do, but it's full of cockroaches.
20100723 01:46:51< Valkier> Typical McDonalds.
20100723 01:47:03< Valkier> At least they'll have real meat for a change.
20100723 01:47:17< artisticdude> And they burn the fries.
20100723 01:47:18< artisticdude> And put unmentionable things in the burgers. >.>
20100723 01:47:35< Valkier> You're just describing McDonalds now.
20100723 01:47:48< Valkier> A slightly upscale one at that.
20100723 01:48:09< artisticdude> I know. Pathetic that it's one of the largest chain businesses in the world.
20100723 01:48:48< Valkier> America has low standards.
20100723 01:48:57< Valkier> Personally, I prefer Wendys.
20100723 01:49:19< Blarumyrran> http://drmcninja.com/comics/2004-08-09-0p7.jpg
20100723 01:49:29< artisticdude> I haven't been to a fast food joint in years, so I don't really have an opinion on that.
20100723 01:49:29< Valkier> While everyone else has been saying, "We will become healthier!" Wendys said, "Triple stacked Baconator."
20100723 01:49:46< artisticdude> Lol.
20100723 01:50:19< Valkier> And it is delicious.
20100723 01:50:30< Valkier> But it will also kill you.
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20100723 01:50:49< artisticdude> Clogged Arteries.
20100723 01:50:53< artisticdude> And worse.
20100723 01:51:01< Valkier> Turn in to a fatty.
20100723 01:51:31< artisticdude> I wonder how much exercise you would need to counter the effects of eating fast food 3x a day?
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20100723 01:51:57< artisticdude> I guess you could only stop exercising to eat.
20100723 01:52:05< Valkier> Pretty much
20100723 01:52:15< Valkier> After a certain point your metabolism would probably be able to keep up.
20100723 01:52:49< Valkier> Michael Phelps eats an ungodly amount of food just for breakfast. Something like a whole large pizza, some burgers, etc.
20100723 01:54:18< Tomsik> No amount of exercise will help you
20100723 01:54:40< Tomsik> as fastfoods are not a balanced diet
20100723 01:54:53< Valkier> They're balanced for fat people.
20100723 01:55:05< Tomsik> and exercising doesn't help with cholesterol
20100723 01:55:27< artisticdude> I'm something of a health freak myself. Organics, whole grains, no trans fats, etc.
20100723 01:55:40< artisticdude> Got that from my dad.
20100723 01:55:46< artisticdude> >.>
20100723 01:56:00< Tomsik> that's an overkill
20100723 01:56:28< artisticdude> Perhaps, but I'm not fat.
20100723 01:56:38< artisticdude> And I still eat junk food.
20100723 01:56:56< artisticdude> I atet a whole pizza before fencing for 3 hours straight once.
20100723 01:57:01< artisticdude> *ate*
20100723 01:57:11< Valkier> Organics are a myth anyhow.
20100723 01:57:25< artisticdude> Very true.
20100723 01:57:41< artisticdude> "Organic Pesticides"?
20100723 01:57:47< Tomsik> I eat a pizza once in a while anyway
20100723 01:57:57< Tomsik> it's about balancing
20100723 01:57:58< Valkier> Its better for the land, but not any healthier.
20100723 01:58:15< artisticdude> Better for your body.
20100723 01:58:18< Tomsik> and not being fat isn't much of an achievement
20100723 01:58:36< Valkier> artisticdude: Thats the myth..
20100723 01:58:53< artisticdude> But who wants to ingest chemicals? :/
20100723 01:59:03< Tomsik> artisticdude: pesticides?
20100723 01:59:10< Tomsik> They're not in the grain, I'm pretty sure
20100723 01:59:15< Valkier> If you think you're not, I got some sour news, jack.
20100723 01:59:45< Blarumyrran> News doesn't rhyme with jack
20100723 02:00:13< Valkier> Neither does any word in shut the hell up.
20100723 02:01:30< Blarumyrran> Usually when random names are added to the end of a sentence, it's for cockney rhyming so I thought it would be the case
20100723 02:02:01< Valkier> What are we, savages
20100723 02:02:01< Valkier> ?
20100723 02:02:12< Valkier> That's so 90's.
20100723 02:02:28 * Valkier realizes a lot of people in this chat were probably born in the 90s.
20100723 02:02:30< Valkier> Hmmm....
20100723 02:03:10 * artisticdude was born in the 90's
20100723 02:03:32< artisticdude> Early 90's.
20100723 02:03:46 * Valkier was born in the mid 80s...
20100723 02:03:51< Valkier> I hate every one of you.
20100723 02:04:12< Espreon> Riveting tale, chap.
20100723 02:04:21< artisticdude> Groovy. 8)
20100723 02:04:25< artisticdude> Oops.
20100723 02:04:25< Valkier> Go to school!
20100723 02:04:38< Valkier> Kids today. No respect.
20100723 02:04:39< artisticdude> I mean Sweet!
20100723 02:05:07< Tomsik> I wasn't born.
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20100723 02:05:11< Valkier> Wicked owlsome.
20100723 02:05:45< artisticdude> "Obama" = synonym for "Cool"
20100723 02:05:48< artisticdude> True story.
20100723 02:05:58 * Espreon rolls his eyes
20100723 02:06:03< artisticdude> Though that may not be in fasion nowadays... >.>
20100723 02:06:18< artisticdude> *Fashion*
20100723 02:06:33< artisticdude> Dang, I can't type anything right tonight.
20100723 02:11:23< Valkier> Espreon = synonym for someone who doesn't wash their hands as they leave the restroom.
20100723 02:12:01 * Espreon rolls his eyes
20100723 02:12:22< artisticdude> And BTW, in case it wasn't clear, I am not a supporter of Obama.
20100723 02:12:43< Blarumyrran> Whose supporter are you?
20100723 02:13:03< Valkier> artisticdude: Oh good. You wanted to vote in the lady who shoots wolves from helicoptors.
20100723 02:13:18< Blarumyrran> If I were you, I'd have an urge to say "your mother's", but resist it
20100723 02:13:32< artisticdude> I didn't like any of the candidates in the 2008 election, TBH.
20100723 02:13:56< Espreon> Silly Palin and her newclear weapons...
20100723 02:14:03< artisticdude> But I favor McCain over Obama, for reasons I don't feel like going into here.
20100723 02:14:22< Tomsik> I support constitutional monarchy. At least that means there's somebody to actually blame and not politicians that say "it was HIM!"
20100723 02:14:30< artisticdude> Since they will inevitably lead to the same debate they have the last 3000 times I've brought them up.
20100723 02:15:11< Valkier> artisticdude: McCain and Obama were the same candidate.
20100723 02:15:14< Tomsik> Meaning you don't believe in gays?
20100723 02:15:16< Valkier> Your logic is flawed.
20100723 02:15:26< artisticdude> Hmm?
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20100723 02:16:26< Blarumyrran> You don't believe in black people?
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20100723 02:18:08< artisticdude> Umm...
20100723 02:18:27< Espreon> ... what about blue people‽
20100723 02:18:28< artisticdude> Is this a timed question?
20100723 02:18:40< Blarumyrran> It was
20100723 02:18:45< artisticdude> You mean James Cameron's buddies? :P
20100723 02:19:04< artisticdude> Oh. It was.
20100723 02:19:27< artisticdude> I guess I don't make it to final Jeopardy.
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20100723 02:21:15< Blarumyrran> Your delay convinced the public that your true answer must be even more embarrassing than what they could've thought of, since otherwise you would've tried to correct their faulty negative opinion of you
20100723 02:21:50< Blarumyrran> You'll never be a politician
20100723 02:22:21< artisticdude> I hate politics.
20100723 02:22:33< Blarumyrran> Sour grapes, eh
20100723 02:23:07< artisticdude> It's a crooked business. Corruption and stupidity at their finest.
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20100723 02:23:32< Tomsik> Sour grapes again.
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20100723 02:24:32 * artisticdude feels like changing the subject.
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20100723 02:26:12< artisticdude> In, out. In, out. In, out.
20100723 02:26:22< Tomsik> BOOMER SHOOTS ADAMA
20100723 02:26:25< Tomsik> or something
20100723 02:27:49< Blarumyrran> I haven't seen the series, but I played the BSG board game once; it was good
20100723 02:28:15< Tomsik> Well, watching 4th season out of being bored 
20100723 02:28:22< Tomsik> and yeah, I got dragged because of the board game :p
20100723 02:29:20< Blarumyrran> I just read the premise and the ending from the BSG wiki
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20100723 02:38:21< PetePorty> It sucks so much when you talk to someone you haven't seen in ages and who you remember completely and doesn't even know who the hell you are...
20100723 02:38:30< e_s-iOS> Hi
20100723 02:38:40< Valkier> PetePorty: Make a bigger impression,.
20100723 02:38:44< Valkier> Kill their pet.
20100723 02:38:49< Valkier> They'll remember you.
20100723 02:38:50< PetePorty> Hi e_s...
20100723 02:38:58< e_s-iOS> What?
20100723 02:39:03< e_s-iOS> Did I do something wrong?
20100723 02:39:07< PetePorty> Man, we had something, how can she not remember me?
20100723 02:39:23< artisticdude>  :/
20100723 02:39:23< PetePorty> this sucks...
20100723 02:39:28< e_s-iOS> Hi artisticdude 
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20100723 02:39:39< artisticdude> Yo.
20100723 02:39:45< Valkier> PetePorty: Aww. Girl troubles?
20100723 02:39:53< artisticdude> Or, more formally: Good evening, sir.
20100723 02:39:56< PetePorty> ...yeah...
20100723 02:40:05< e_s-iOS> xD
20100723 02:40:06< PetePorty> never happened before...
20100723 02:40:14< PetePorty> this sucks...I need a knife
20100723 02:40:14< Valkier> PetePorty: Women are like taxis. If you wait 5 minutes another will be along.
20100723 02:40:16< e_s-iOS> How's the TWFF comin'?
20100723 02:40:19< artisticdude> Make like me and do without.
20100723 02:40:35< PetePorty> Valkier, I really liked this taxi...
20100723 02:40:42< artisticdude> Fine. :)
20100723 02:40:43< Valkier> There will be others.
20100723 02:40:53< e_s-iOS> PetePorty: Lol
20100723 02:40:56< PetePorty> There is no better taxi to ride...
20100723 02:41:02< Valkier> And some of them will let you do unspeakable things in them.
20100723 02:41:07< e_s-iOS> Then take a bus ;)
20100723 02:41:10< artisticdude> I...
20100723 02:41:22< PetePorty> does the bus represent a big fat lady?
20100723 02:41:31< PetePorty> brb, I need to get a knife...
20100723 02:41:31< e_s-iOS> Well....uh...
20100723 02:41:34< artisticdude> Who backfires?
20100723 02:42:12< e_s-iOS> Backfires?
20100723 02:42:19< artisticdude> Buses.
20100723 02:42:26< e_s-iOS> Ah.
20100723 02:42:31< artisticdude> Man, I remember one time
20100723 02:42:35< PetePorty> back.
20100723 02:42:36< artisticdude> I was in Washington DC
20100723 02:42:51< artisticdude> And there was this bus parked by the curb
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20100723 02:43:12< Zerovirus> God this rubiks cube is stupid
20100723 02:43:14< e_s-iOS> ...and you met a stunning girl there?
20100723 02:43:16< artisticdude> It started up, and it made the loudest bang I've ever heard (excluding firearms)
20100723 02:43:20< e_s-iOS> Lol
20100723 02:43:26< PetePorty> How can *anyone* not remember me? Specially her! I totally need to hit someone....
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20100723 02:43:41< e_s-iOS> PetePorty: Ive experienced that before
20100723 02:43:42< artisticdude> Oh no, I've met plenty of girls all over the place, but about this bus...
20100723 02:43:43< Valkier> PetePorty: I don't even know you.
20100723 02:43:46< e_s-iOS> Don't worry
20100723 02:43:58< Valkier> However, artists are typically remembered.
20100723 02:43:59< PetePorty> Valkier, can I hit you?
20100723 02:44:03< Tomsik> bus is a metaphor for an orgy I guess
20100723 02:44:08< Valkier> We're sexy and all.
20100723 02:44:12< e_s-iOS> Yes.
20100723 02:44:30< artisticdude> I am so totally lost. :/
20100723 02:44:37< e_s-iOS> Haha
20100723 02:44:42< Valkier> Five minute chat at a cafe. "Can I draw you naked?" and then answer, "Only if you pay me in sex."
20100723 02:44:55< Valkier> Life is good. ^_^
20100723 02:45:00< PetePorty> artisticdude, she doesn't remember me!
20100723 02:45:03< e_s-iOS> Oh, Valkier 
20100723 02:45:17< e_s-iOS> PetePorty: Of course not
20100723 02:45:29< artisticdude> She must not think very much about you then.
20100723 02:45:32< PetePorty> how can someone not remember me?
20100723 02:45:36< e_s-iOS> Have you ever read the Portrait of Dorian Gray?
20100723 02:45:37< Hulavuta> Hello customers!
20100723 02:45:45< e_s-iOS> Hello
20100723 02:45:50< Hulavuta> I haven't finished it yet
20100723 02:45:53< Valkier> So guys, I met up with some guy today. He claimed he knew everything about me but I didn't remember a thing about him.
20100723 02:45:59< PetePorty> Hula, you are the womanizer, tell me what to do.
20100723 02:46:03< artisticdude> Hello. Now I was saying...
20100723 02:46:11< e_s-iOS> xD
20100723 02:46:27< artisticdude> Ho-ly crap. :/
20100723 02:46:31< Hulavuta> PetePorty: Give me a minute to read the convo then I'll help you
20100723 02:46:35< e_s-iOS> What?
20100723 02:46:48< Valkier> PetePorty: She put you in the friend zone. Put her in the RAPE zone!
20100723 02:47:01< shadowmaster> ...
20100723 02:47:01< artisticdude> Hulavuta a womanizer? Somehow I get a disturbing mental image of a dinosaur skeleton...
20100723 02:47:05< Hulavuta> Valkier: Then she'll call the cops
20100723 02:47:08< PetePorty> No, man, we were more thaa friends...
20100723 02:47:09< Valkier> True.
20100723 02:47:16< artisticdude> Shadowmaster: help!
20100723 02:47:29< Valkier> Ok, nix the rape. Have you considered flowers?
20100723 02:47:31< shadowmaster> artisticdude: hi, how can I help you?
20100723 02:47:36< e_s-iOS> Valkier: Are you Dorian Gray?
20100723 02:47:45< e_s-iOS> Oh 
20100723 02:47:45< Valkier> e_s-iOS: Shhhhh
20100723 02:47:47< Hulavuta> e_s-iOS: He's dead
20100723 02:47:54< e_s-iOS> Who said?
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20100723 02:47:57< artisticdude> I'm surrounded by love affairs. :/
20100723 02:48:02< Hulavuta> I'm pretty sure he dies 
20100723 02:48:03< PetePorty> Valkier's real name is Chris Scalf.
20100723 02:48:05< e_s-iOS> He is right over....
20100723 02:48:14< e_s-iOS> No
20100723 02:48:15< e_s-iOS> I cannot say
20100723 02:48:15< Valkier> Well, Chris is right. Scalf is not.
20100723 02:48:22< Hulavuta> Valkier's name is Christina
20100723 02:48:25< Hulavuta> He told me himself
20100723 02:48:26< e_s-iOS> Hi Chris!
20100723 02:48:51< Hulavuta> tina
20100723 02:48:53< artisticdude> Shadowmaster: do you have to download SVN?
20100723 02:48:54< PetePorty> Damn, this is the eproblem with not getting RL friends...
20100723 02:49:06< e_s-iOS> It's funny now that I know the name of everyone who is participating in this convo
20100723 02:49:16< shadowmaster> artisticdude: me? for what?
20100723 02:49:43< PetePorty> e_s you don't know my real name.
20100723 02:49:45< Hulavuta> e_s-iOS: When I think of Dorian Grey, I think of the Mona Lisa
20100723 02:49:47< Valkier> e_s-iOS: Well to be fair, you could have probably looked mine up in the contributors list. :-P
20100723 02:49:54< artisticdude> No, sorry. In order to use UMC-Dev SVN, is there something you have to download?
20100723 02:49:56< e_s-iOS> No actually
20100723 02:49:56< Hulavuta> When I think of the ugly portrait, I think of the Mona Lisa on the cover of the Far Side
20100723 02:50:02< Hulavuta> It's Pedro
20100723 02:50:03< e_s-iOS> PetePorty: I know
20100723 02:50:16< Hulavuta> Hint: They replace her face with a cow face
20100723 02:50:16< shadowmaster> artisticdude: ah, yes. But if you only want to take a look at stuff you can use the web interface.
20100723 02:50:25< Tomsik> It's problem with using "RL" in a sentence. :p
20100723 02:50:28< shadowmaster> artisticdude: you want to take a look, or to develop in it?
20100723 02:50:45< e_s-iOS> We want to put TWFF on SVN
20100723 02:50:50< e_s-iOS> Right?
20100723 02:50:59< artisticdude> Indeed.
20100723 02:51:00< shadowmaster> what's TWFF?
20100723 02:51:07< Hulavuta> The
20100723 02:51:08< Hulavuta> Wesnoth
20100723 02:51:08< Hulavuta> Forum
20100723 02:51:09< e_s-iOS> The Wesnoth Forum Faction
20100723 02:51:10< Hulavuta> Faction
20100723 02:51:12< Hulavuta> Damnit
20100723 02:51:16< PetePorty> was it across the river, or down the street?
20100723 02:51:20< Hulavuta> both
20100723 02:51:20< shadowmaster> Hulavuta: sorry.
20100723 02:51:28< shadowmaster> well, you'll need a SVN client for that.
20100723 02:51:29< Hulavuta> sorry about what?
20100723 02:51:46< e_s-iOS> Okay
20100723 02:51:49< artisticdude> It's an era elvish_sovereign, Captain_Wrathbow, and I are creating together.
20100723 02:51:58< e_s-iOS> Now where's ancestral....
20100723 02:52:06< e_s-iOS> wesbot seen ancestral
20100723 02:52:06< wesbot> e_s-iOS: Whatever you say...
20100723 02:52:07< wesbot> e_s-iOS: The person with the nick ancestral 16h ago was here and on the channel #wesnoth-dev with the message: Quit: And that’s the end of THAT chapter.
20100723 02:52:10< Valkier> I refuse to participate on the grouns that I am too awesome for numeric levels.
20100723 02:52:22< e_s-iOS> Hmmm
20100723 02:52:23< Valkier> grounds*
20100723 02:52:36< artisticdude> Constantly sending PMs back and forth with the latest files is rather cumbersome, so I've been trying to figure out SVN.
20100723 02:52:37< Valkier> I work in Ultima Online levels.
20100723 02:52:44< artisticdude> Which I've never used before.
20100723 02:53:05< e_s-iOS> ancestral told me something about getting it at developer.apple.com
20100723 02:53:11< shadowmaster> there's a friendlier GUI-based client for Mac OS X called Versions AFAIK
20100723 02:53:14< e_s-iOS> But I'm still trying to figure it out
20100723 02:53:30< e_s-iOS> Hmm
20100723 02:53:38< e_s-iOS> http://www.google.com
20100723 02:53:45< shadowmaster> I only know about vanilla (command line based) SVN, kdesvn, and TortoiseSVN, for any OS, Unix+KDE and Windows respectively
20100723 02:54:30< shadowmaster> the command line version is available for Mac OS X but I guess most of you aren't very comfortable with the idea of using Terminal :p
20100723 02:54:40< e_s-iOS>  Shoot you have to pay?
20100723 02:54:45< artisticdude> Umm... no.
20100723 02:54:51< artisticdude> Not at all comfortable.
20100723 02:55:17< e_s-iOS> shadowmaster: I might as well look into it
20100723 02:55:21< shadowmaster> e_s-iOS: it's downloadable
20100723 02:55:25< e_s-iOS> Ahh
20100723 02:55:30< Hulavuta> I need to get involved with a project...everybody's involved with some project, I feel left out. 
20100723 02:55:31< e_s-iOS> The fink based one?
20100723 02:55:46< e_s-iOS> Hulavuta: FtGJ!!!!
20100723 02:56:02< shadowmaster> euh, no, I was just saying you can download http://versionsapp.com/ AFAIK
20100723 02:56:09< PetePorty> ok, c ya guys, I'll go cry in the darkness...
20100723 02:56:14< Hulavuta> e_s-iOS: hahahhahahahahahahahahha no
20100723 02:56:30< e_s-iOS> PetePorty: Remember to wipe your tears ;)
20100723 02:56:31< Hulavuta> I meant a group one, I want to make others do all of the work
20100723 02:56:37< Hulavuta> Okay, not literally
20100723 02:56:44< e_s-iOS> Evil tyrant ftw
20100723 02:56:47< Hulavuta> But I don't want to do everything mby meself
20100723 02:57:05< Valkier> Hulavuta: I want to do you by myself.
20100723 02:57:07-!- PetePorty is now known as Pete-AFK-crying
20100723 02:57:08< Valkier> True story.
20100723 02:57:11< shadowmaster> e_s-iOS: now if you want the command-line client, check http://subversion.apache.org/packages.html#osx
20100723 02:57:16< artisticdude> Well, somehow I don't think SVN is going to be quite as easy as I expected. :/
20100723 02:57:18< Hulavuta> Valkier: wtf?
20100723 02:57:25< Valkier> lol
20100723 02:57:34< Hulavuta> YOU SICKo
20100723 02:57:45< Valkier> Oh, so you're against gay rights, are you?
20100723 02:57:51< Valkier> You disgust me.
20100723 02:57:59 * Valkier goes back to women
20100723 02:58:15< shadowmaster> artisticdude: yeah, it's a bit complicated but note that when I first started contributing as a Wesnoth developer I had no idea how to use SVN :p
20100723 02:58:19< e_s-iOS> So wait, XCode has SVN built in?
20100723 02:58:28< Hulavuta> Valkier: I'm not against gay rights, I'm just not gay
20100723 02:58:31< Hulavuta> There's a difference
20100723 02:58:34< e_s-iOS> I'll have to ask Ben
20100723 02:58:38< e_s-iOS> Um
20100723 02:58:44< e_s-iOS> crimson_penguin
20100723 03:00:17< artisticdude> In my simple expectations, SVN was a filehosting website, where you could give certain members commit access to an uploaded project.
20100723 03:00:28< e_s-iOS> Lol
20100723 03:00:35< e_s-iOS> Me too.
20100723 03:01:14< Tomsik> Huh, svn is pretty simple
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20100723 03:01:48< elvish_sovereign> okay
20100723 03:01:54< Hulavuta> whoa
20100723 03:01:55< Hulavuta> wut
20100723 03:02:10< Hulavuta> Where did e_s go? He was right there a second ago! Right where that elvish_sovereign is standing
20100723 03:02:19< elvish_sovereign> muahahaha
20100723 03:02:24< elvish_sovereign> I ate him
20100723 03:02:41< Hulavuta> I'll save you e_s! 
20100723 03:02:49< Hulavuta> *Jumps into elvish_sovereign's mouth
20100723 03:04:42< artisticdude> Well, I'm going to have to read up on SVN some more.
20100723 03:04:50< artisticdude> Thanks for the help, shadowmaster. :)
20100723 03:05:18< shadowmaster> k
20100723 03:07:13< Zerovirus> ...Anyone wanna play a quick round of MP?
20100723 03:07:17< Hulavuta> Me maybe
20100723 03:07:21< Hulavuta> If Wesnoth doesn't crash on me
20100723 03:07:35< Hulavuta> like it did last time
20100723 03:07:51< Hulavuta> Zerovirus: I'll host?
20100723 03:07:56< Zerovirus> Okay
20100723 03:08:16< Hulavuta> I'm still running 1.8.0, so....hard finding games without filter
20100723 03:08:25< Hulavuta> what kind of game?
20100723 03:08:44< Hulavuta> nvm, morituri
20100723 03:09:09< Hulavuta> It's Up
20100723 03:09:41< Hulavuta> Zerovirus: It's up
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20100723 03:14:05< crimson_penguin> elvish_sovereign: so to check if you have svn, type: which svn
20100723 03:14:17< crimson_penguin> (it should say /usr/bin/svn)
20100723 03:14:26< elvish_sovereign> yup
20100723 03:14:41< elvish_sovereign> exactly
20100723 03:15:13< crimson_penguin> ok good
20100723 03:15:22< crimson_penguin> well there's actually instructions for checking out svn on the site then
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20100723 03:15:38< elvish_sovereign>  http://subversion.apache.org/packages.html#osx
20100723 03:15:41< elvish_sovereign> that?
20100723 03:15:51< elvish_sovereign> well not the packages page, but yeah
20100723 03:15:52< crimson_penguin> noooo, for checking out Wesnoth svn
20100723 03:16:02< crimson_penguin> you already have svn the program
20100723 03:16:17< shadowmaster> crimson_penguin: I think he wants to work with wesnoth-umc-dev, not wesnoth
20100723 03:16:25< crimson_penguin> (downloading a repository is called "checking out")
20100723 03:16:29< crimson_penguin> oh
20100723 03:16:34< elvish_sovereign> for now, yes
20100723 03:16:38< crimson_penguin> well, is there instructions for that somewhere?
20100723 03:16:39< elvish_sovereign> xD
20100723 03:16:51< shadowmaster> but I need a formal application for the add-on to create the required registry entries and repository path(s)
20100723 03:16:53< King_Elendil> e_s, are you on a mac?
20100723 03:16:55< crimson_penguin> basically you cd to the directory you want it in, then you do: svn checkout URL directory_name
20100723 03:16:56< elvish_sovereign> yes
20100723 03:17:14< shadowmaster> crimson_penguin: hi, Wesnoth-UMC-Dev founder admin here :p
20100723 03:17:35< elvish_sovereign> crimson_penguin: directory_name is....
20100723 03:17:39< crimson_penguin> elvish_sovereign: this is why I encouraged talking about this in-channel ;)
20100723 03:17:49< Gambit> ha!
20100723 03:17:50< crimson_penguin> elvish_sovereign: the name of the new directory to be created that'll have the svn repository in it
20100723 03:18:01< elvish_sovereign> okay
20100723 03:18:04< shadowmaster> btw
20100723 03:18:15< shadowmaster> you DON'T want to checkout the entire wesnoth-umc-dev repo
20100723 03:18:23< shadowmaster> it'll eat your HDD space for no good reason.
20100723 03:18:50< elvish_sovereign> lol
20100723 03:19:21< Gambit> shadowmaster: How's the gums?
20100723 03:19:38< shadowmaster> Gambit: I'm alright.
20100723 03:19:42< shadowmaster> just hungry.
20100723 03:19:42< Gambit> moar eyss creem
20100723 03:20:02< shadowmaster> I wish I had ice cream :/
20100723 03:20:12< Gambit> shadowmaster: I found a new language!
20100723 03:20:15< Gambit> ColdFusionscript.
20100723 03:21:42< Zarel> shadowmaster: Gambit refuses to admit that ColdFusion sucks.
20100723 03:21:56< Zarel> Despite having to learn both a new markup language and a new scripting language. :P
20100723 03:21:57< shadowmaster> yeah :(
20100723 03:22:01< Gambit> (becaue it doesn't?)
20100723 03:22:13< Zarel> See, with PHP, you just need to learn the scripting language.
20100723 03:22:33< Gambit> It's really the same language.
20100723 03:22:36< Gambit> CFS just saves space.
20100723 03:22:58< Gambit> And anything PHP can do CFML can do better.
20100723 03:23:05< Gambit> CFML can do anything better than PHP.
20100723 03:23:09< Gambit> (yes it can)
20100723 03:23:13< Gambit> [insert song]
20100723 03:23:50< elvish_sovereign> crimson_penguin: so King_Elendil is helping me work through this
20100723 03:23:57< Gambit> I'm taking a php class this year though.
20100723 03:23:58< crimson_penguin> cool
20100723 03:24:04< elvish_sovereign> and after now 
20100723 03:24:12< elvish_sovereign> wait
20100723 03:24:24< elvish_sovereign> so we're doing it through fink
20100723 03:24:30< Gambit> The stupid college changed the prereqs for it
20100723 03:24:40< elvish_sovereign> and after installing it already a while ago
20100723 03:24:43< Zerovirus> Note to all: Do not attack with drakes at night
20100723 03:24:46< Gambit> Instead of Computer Logic (which I took last year so I could take PHP this year) you now need Java, VB, or C++
20100723 03:24:50< elvish_sovereign> i'm trying to work it, but
20100723 03:24:58< elvish_sovereign> it gives me errors
20100723 03:24:59< Gambit> But I'm hoping for instructor consent.
20100723 03:25:00< elvish_sovereign> saying
20100723 03:25:07< elvish_sovereign> fink: command not found
20100723 03:25:11< elvish_sovereign> after typing
20100723 03:25:13< elvish_sovereign> cd /sw
20100723 03:25:20< elvish_sovereign> fink install svn-client
20100723 03:25:31< elvish_sovereign> do you have an idea of what's wrong?
20100723 03:28:13< Hulavuta> They need to have a new acronym
20100723 03:28:15< Hulavuta> WIJG
20100723 03:30:53< Zerovirus> WIJAG
20100723 03:30:56< Zerovirus> it sounds cooler
20100723 03:31:17< King_Elendil> Wesnoth Is Just A Game?
20100723 03:33:43< Hulavuta> Yes
20100723 03:33:52< Hulavuta> I coined it!
20100723 03:33:58< Hulavuta> I need to find a place to post it now...
20100723 03:35:54< Blarumyrran> http://imagebin.org/106409
20100723 03:36:44< Zerovirus> What horrible frankenstein is that
20100723 03:36:45-!- artisticdude [9442274a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.148.66.39.74] has quit [Quit: Page closed]
20100723 03:36:52< Zerovirus> Well actually it's not horrible, its kinda cool in fact
20100723 03:38:53< Blarumyrran> from top row 3rd column http://exong.net/wesnoth-attach/files/chaos_250.png
20100723 03:40:41< Zerovirus> Well yeah but whats the other stuff form
20100723 03:40:45< Zerovirus> Or did you just scratch sprite it
20100723 03:41:36< Blarumyrran> No I didn't
20100723 03:41:40< Blarumyrran> <Blarumyrran> from top row 3rd column http://exong.net/wesnoth-attach/files/chaos_250.png
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20100723 03:59:10< Hulavuta> Yaaaay we winded
20100723 04:03:04< Blarumyrran> Okay fixed a bit http://imagebin.org/106411
20100723 04:04:37< Valkier> Barney is going to war?
20100723 04:05:14< Hulavuta> Who? What?
20100723 04:05:16< Blarumyrran> Who is Barney?
20100723 04:05:31< Hulavuta> Barney was my nickname on a few forums back,
20100723 04:05:36< Hulavuta> maybe he's talking about me
20100723 04:05:44< Valkier> http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQTnOC9K6Oym3ukmcuQIHbpm-mF_JsLQlCAOjsXVuMUjGdCdxE&t=1&usg=__tr1XCfc3y7FlH8Y1WuC9Naayvbo=
20100723 04:05:46< King_Elendil> Valkier, that's funny XD
20100723 04:05:51< Hulavuta> wttttfff
20100723 04:06:11< Blarumyrran> Oh, I saw that thing in a Godfather parody
20100723 04:06:35< Blarumyrran> An eskimo killed him in the end of the film.
20100723 04:06:40< Valkier> I'm sure you saw it, but did you *see* it?
20100723 04:07:07< Blarumyrran> I *saw* eskimo stabbing him with a spear or harpoon
20100723 04:07:10< Hulavuta> Uhh, I don't get it
20100723 04:07:15< Hulavuta> It's just Barney, right?
20100723 04:07:34< Valkier> Is anything *just* anything?
20100723 04:08:16< Blarumyrran> Your mother was just anything last night.
20100723 04:08:55< Valkier> Impossible. She goes with 5 dollar prostitutes. You're too cheap.
20100723 04:08:56< Hulavuta> >:o
20100723 04:09:50< Hulavuta> Happy Pi day guys
20100723 04:09:58 * King_Elendil wonders what the point of such useless comments is
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20100723 04:10:55< Aethaeryn> poor e day. no one respects it as much as pi day.
20100723 04:10:57< Valkier> To get in to Blarumyrran's pants.
20100723 04:11:13< Valkier> Little does everyone know, just about anyone can get in there.
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20100723 04:11:33< Aethaeryn> February 71st.
20100723 04:11:40< Blarumyrran> Oh damn, did I forget my pants at Valkier's mother's place again.
20100723 04:11:42< Aethaeryn> Though technically some round it to the 72nd.
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20100723 04:12:14< Blarumyrran> I think celebrating silly and/or contrived things is wrong
20100723 04:12:20< Valkier> Blarumyrran: Yeah you did. What's with the diaper anyhow?
20100723 04:12:34< Valkier> You should see a dictor for that.
20100723 04:12:36< Valkier> doctor*
20100723 04:14:18< Blarumyrran> Valkier, it's for the baby your mother is bearing right now in her stomach
20100723 04:14:23< Zerovirus> dictor= dictator plus doctor
20100723 04:14:30< Zerovirus> dictoctor
20100723 04:14:53< Valkier> Blarumyrran: She's been through metapaus.
20100723 04:15:06< Valkier> So either you're a wizard, or you slept with your mother by mistake.
20100723 04:15:35< Valkier> I know, I know. Old habits are hard for you to quit I bet.
20100723 04:15:50< Blarumyrran> Yes, good ol' qizarding habits
20100723 04:15:57< Blarumyrran> wizarding*
20100723 04:16:10< Valkier> Is that what your mother calls you?
20100723 04:16:15< Blarumyrran> No, you did
20100723 04:16:20< Blarumyrran> Oh my god, you're my mother
20100723 04:16:24< Valkier> shh.. You said we wouldn't speak of that.
20100723 04:16:35< Blarumyrran> Anyway, enough of this
20100723 04:16:56 * Valkier suddenly considers that Blarumyrran might be the most hilarious thing to yell out in bed.
20100723 04:16:58< Tomsik> Yeah, soon everyone will find out how you've done your Valkier momma
20100723 04:17:24< Hulavuta> This place is so messed up with shadow master not around =-O
20100723 04:17:25< Zerovirus> metapaus= metal menopause
20100723 04:17:33< Valkier> OH, right.
20100723 04:17:37< Valkier> That! hah!
20100723 04:17:40< Zerovirus> qizarding= quiz wizarding
20100723 04:17:53< Valkier> Quick wizarding perhaps?
20100723 04:17:59< Valkier> Slightly higher than speed chess.
20100723 04:22:30< Aethaeryn> nah
20100723 04:23:24< Aethaeryn> a qizard is less than a wizard but more than a lizard
20100723 04:23:46< Aethaeryn> assuming that a < b < ... < z
20100723 04:25:18< Aethaeryn> which is possible in a base 36 system.
20100723 04:26:54< Aethaeryn> 9 + C = L
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20100723 05:16:40< Pete-AFK-crying> Someone should do Wesnoth classes.
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20100723 05:17:23< PetePorty> A Wesnoth teacher...
20100723 05:17:30< PetePorty> Sounds cool.
20100723 05:17:44< Valkier> Uh
20100723 05:17:49< Valkier> It's called a tutorial.
20100723 05:18:03< PetePorty> Anyway, I will attempt for the first time to play Heir to the Throne in hard difficulty.
20100723 05:18:28< PetePorty> No, Valk, someone to teach strategies, how each unit works with each unit...
20100723 05:18:41< PetePorty> something like 4 years of wesnoth in 2 weeks.
20100723 05:18:45< PetePorty> :)
20100723 05:19:03< PetePorty> I would want Velensk as my teacher...
20100723 05:19:20< PetePorty> that guy has kicked my ass... severely every single time we have played-
20100723 05:20:14< Valkier> Pfft. I'm better.
20100723 05:20:53< PetePorty> No you're not.
20100723 05:21:01< Aethaeryn> PetePorty: CMSC 637 Advanced Battle For Wesnoth Tactics.
20100723 05:21:03< Aethaeryn> Yes, it's graduate-level.
20100723 05:21:15< PetePorty> OMG!
20100723 05:21:18< Aethaeryn> Yeah.
20100723 05:21:29< Aethaeryn> It's on my transcript from my mail-order doctorate.
20100723 05:21:41< Aethaeryn> Have the digital recepit, still waiting for the physical copy to ship.
20100723 05:22:31< Aethaeryn> My actual thesis was a rant on why Python AIs should be allowed back in. :-P
20100723 05:22:48< PetePorty> huh....
20100723 05:23:06< Aethaeryn> Main argumentation line is "I have over 1000 pages in Python books and 0 pages in Formula AI and/or WML books."
20100723 05:23:27< Aethaeryn> PetePorty: Oh, I should change my nick to `\ as a hint that I'm not to be taken literally.
20100723 05:23:54< Valkier> PetePorty: Nope. I am so much better it's scary.
20100723 05:23:56< Aethaeryn> But I'm in a query right now and nick changes can break things; at the very least they make tracking logs later on messy.
20100723 05:23:57< PetePorty> That would be even better, a WML teacher....
20100723 05:24:18< Aethaeryn> Valkier: But do *you* have a PhD?
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20100723 05:24:33< Valkier> I have a PhD in being badass
20100723 05:24:37< Aethaeryn> Damn.
20100723 05:24:42< Aethaeryn> I knew I should've paid the extra $30
20100723 05:24:45< Aethaeryn> But I'm cheap.
20100723 05:24:57< Valkier> I wake up in the morning and someone gets pregnant.
20100723 05:25:19< PetePorty> ...
20100723 05:25:35< Aethaeryn> I chose the less awesome "Theoretical Internet Business Computing Education" subject... Quite a best-seller degree.
20100723 05:25:53< PetePorty> I wanna learn something cool...
20100723 05:25:59< PetePorty> like computers...
20100723 05:26:18< Aethaeryn> PetePorty: Then do your damn math homework. They're related somehow.
20100723 05:26:29< PetePorty> I do that on class...
20100723 05:26:50< PetePorty> I dream of some day becoming a hacker...
20100723 05:27:32< PetePorty> But I kinda need to work for that...
20100723 05:27:59< shadowmaster> I wonder what you mean with "hacker"
20100723 05:28:08< PetePorty> ...and I need to do my damn personal project...But I'm busy playing wesnoth
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20100723 05:29:16< Aethaeryn>  .
20100723 05:29:16< Aethaeryn> ..:
20100723 05:29:17< PetePorty> http://www.iwriteiam.nl/HackerDef.html
20100723 05:29:27< PetePorty> That, I mean with hacker.
20100723 05:29:36< shadowmaster> Aethaeryn: nice, but where's the grid?
20100723 05:29:46< Aethaeryn> shadowmaster: http://www.catb.org/~esr/hacker-emblem/
20100723 05:29:50< PetePorty> lol
20100723 05:29:50< Aethaeryn> it's one of the acceptable variants
20100723 05:30:13< shadowmaster> I didn't know there was an official plain-text version
20100723 05:30:38< PetePorty> Of course there is.
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20100723 05:30:47< PetePorty> There are thousands of versions...
20100723 05:31:18< Aethaeryn> shadowmaster: well, there's 4 image versions and 3 text versions on that page alone.
20100723 05:31:50< Aethaeryn> I just chose the two line version because I predicted (rightly so) that I'd be cut off on IRC by another person's lines if I tried more than two.
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20100723 06:17:43< ancestral> *ACHOO!*
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20100723 09:25:22< Ivanovic> moin
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20100723 09:35:21< matthiaskrgr> hello
20100723 09:35:50< matthiaskrgr> I have a question regarding translations
20100723 09:36:28< matthiaskrgr> how do you convert the manpage into a .po file?
20100723 09:36:45< matthiaskrgr> do you do it manually or is there a script that helps with it?
20100723 09:37:07< zookeeper> Ivanovic, ^
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20100723 09:37:53< Ivanovic> matthiaskrgr: it is done with autotools, after running configure and asciidoc as well as po4a are found, you can just run "make update-po4a"
20100723 09:38:12< Ivanovic> some magic is going on then with po4a and the likes that extracts the info into a po file
20100723 09:38:16< matthiaskrgr> the game freedroidRPG (maybe some of you already know it :) ) started to support translation recently 
20100723 09:38:24< Ivanovic> cool
20100723 09:38:54< matthiaskrgr> we use transifex, but (yet) only for dialogs between the player and npc 
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20100723 09:39:26< Ivanovic> you should check the Makefile.am stuff in doc/man/ as well as the files in po/wesnoth-manpages/ (.cfg file and the likes)
20100723 09:39:33< Ivanovic> why not plain gettext?
20100723 09:39:58< matthiaskrgr> hmm
20100723 09:41:02< matthiaskrgr> launchpad was used before, then translation support was removed due to lack of translators, now use transifex
20100723 09:41:40< Ivanovic> ah, you mean that is some webinterface thingie?
20100723 09:41:42< matthiaskrgr> I assume that transifex easier to handle than plain gettext, it is possible to translate directly via the website
20100723 09:42:08< Ivanovic> personally i dislike this for games simply because you can get too much "generic" translations that do simply not fit
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20100723 09:45:11< Ivanovic> and using plain po files is not too difficult since there are really good editors for them out there
20100723 09:45:24< Ivanovic> that is: if you have someone in the team to take care of incoming stuff
20100723 09:46:03< Ivanovic> (as in: give the translators the po files and tell them to mail you the updated files, you will handle the rest)
20100723 09:46:32< matthiaskrgr> that way you can also have a final look of what's submitted
20100723 09:46:59< Ivanovic> there is always a final lock, that is called "tagging"
20100723 09:47:10< Ivanovic> (since at some time you have to create the source tarball)
20100723 09:50:40< matthiaskrgr> thanks so far
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20100723 09:51:36< matthiaskrgr> I'll try to get some more informations about the programms/scripts and post a little log (X:32 - X:47) on our forum 
20100723 09:52:48< Ivanovic> sure
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20100723 15:14:45< Hulavuta> Hullo neighbaz
20100723 15:15:02< Tomsik> Ahoy
20100723 15:15:47< Hulavuta> I'm going to see Inception today
20100723 15:16:05< hylje> oh no
20100723 15:16:09< Tomsik> What's that?
20100723 15:16:15< hylje> now your dreams will roll
20100723 15:16:45< Hulavuta> Tomsik: I'm guessing you don't like in the US
20100723 15:16:48< Hulavuta> *live
20100723 15:17:39< Tomsik> nope
20100723 15:18:01< Tomsik> I'm a proud many-generations European ;)
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20100723 15:21:12< Hulavuta> Doesn't Un mean not?
20100723 15:21:28< Hulavuta> And Undead would mean not dead...
20100723 15:21:33< Hulavuta> which technically they ARE dead
20100723 15:21:35< Hulavuta> But they're alive
20100723 15:21:37< Hulavuta> but dead
20100723 15:22:00< Tomsik> They're not dead, because they move their sore butts
20100723 15:22:18< Hulavuta> but they're all corpses
20100723 15:22:35< Hulavuta> Shouldn't they be living dead?
20100723 15:24:47< Tomsik> They're dead living, more like.
20100723 15:26:41< Hulavuta> Yeah
20100723 15:27:45< Hulavuta> Tomsik: where in Europe?
20100723 15:27:52< Tomsik> Poland
20100723 15:28:09< Hulavuta> k
20100723 15:39:44< Zarel> ...
20100723 15:39:54< Zarel> Has anyone here been able to get Wesnoth 1.8.3 working on a Mac?
20100723 15:41:21< Hulavuta> Don't ask me, I'm still running 1.2
20100723 15:43:47< hylje> 1.8.2 here
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20100723 15:47:32< Gambit> Hulavuta: 1.2?
20100723 15:48:22< Hulavuta> 1.4
20100723 15:48:24< Hulavuta> my bad
20100723 15:50:12< Zarel> lol, that's not nearly so bad. ;)
20100723 15:50:52< Hulavuta> I'm ALSO running 1.8
20100723 15:50:56< Hulavuta> But it's .0
20100723 15:53:54< Hulavuta> Oh no I just lost the game
20100723 15:53:59< Zarel> Hmm.
20100723 15:54:07< Zarel> 1.8.2 didn't download, either.
20100723 15:54:16< Zarel> I'm beginning to suspect a problem with my internet connection
20100723 15:56:15< Hulavuta> Oh, I thought you meant it wouldn't install
20100723 15:57:13< Zarel> Hulavuta: Well, to be exact, I mean the download is corrupted.
20100723 15:57:21< Hulavuta> ok
20100723 15:57:32< Hulavuta> elvish_sovereign might now
20100723 15:57:34< Hulavuta> *know
20100723 15:57:37< Zarel> Have you ever used a Mac?
20100723 15:57:38< Hulavuta> He uses a mac
20100723 15:57:52< Hulavuta> I've used a Mac at school, but I've never downloaded anything on one
20100723 15:58:16< Zarel> Hulavuta: Oh, well, installing apps on a Mac is a lot different.
20100723 16:00:10< hylje> drag .app from downloads folder to applications folder
20100723 16:01:50< Hulavuta> Well, elvish_sovereign uses a mac
20100723 16:08:54< Hulavuta> I'm going to go see Inception now
20100723 16:08:57< Hulavuta> cha cha cha
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20100723 16:41:05< Zerovirus_> MP match anyone?
20100723 16:41:26< artisticdude> Sure.
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20100723 16:41:54< Zerovirus_> I did?
20100723 16:41:59< Zerovirus_> I didn't quit, did I?
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20100723 16:42:32< Zerovirus> artisticdude: I'll set up the game I guess
20100723 16:42:44< artisticdude> K.
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20100723 16:43:00< hylje> i am le ill
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20100723 17:06:59< e_s-iOS> Ohhp
20100723 17:07:01< e_s-iOS> Gotta go
20100723 17:07:05< e_s-iOS> See ya guys later
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20100723 18:08:29< artisticdude> shadowmaster: you had your wisdom teeth taken out?
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20100723 18:12:14< elias> i have mine taken out on august 16 :(
20100723 18:12:32< elias> kinda feels like my execution date :(
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20100723 18:18:55< hylje> noooooooo
20100723 18:18:57< elvish_sovereign> hey
20100723 18:19:07< elvish_sovereign> what happened?
20100723 18:19:26< hylje> some guys were talking about wisdom teeth removal
20100723 18:19:35< elvish_sovereign> ouch
20100723 18:24:47< artisticdude> I had mine taken out early this year.
20100723 18:24:59< artisticdude> All four.
20100723 18:25:00< elvish_sovereign> i yet to take mine
20100723 18:25:04< elvish_sovereign> ouch
20100723 18:25:07< artisticdude> At once.
20100723 18:25:13< elvish_sovereign> tsk tsk tsk
20100723 18:25:21< elvish_sovereign> s/i yet/I have yet/
20100723 18:25:33< artisticdude> It wasn't has bad as I thought it would be, actually.
20100723 18:25:34< elvish_sovereign> s/mine/mine./
20100723 18:25:39< elvish_sovereign> cool
20100723 18:25:49< elvish_sovereign> I'm actually kind of scared, so
20100723 18:25:55< artisticdude> Even the following morning, when the pain medication had worn off, I was in very little pain.
20100723 18:26:20< artisticdude> The worst part, TBH, was the fact that they numbed my entire mouth.
20100723 18:26:33< elvish_sovereign> oh
20100723 18:26:37< artisticdude> So I was unable to swallow anything, and I was drooling blood all over the place.
20100723 18:26:59< artisticdude> A low point in the history of my self-esteem. :P
20100723 18:27:04< elvish_sovereign> xD
20100723 18:27:10< hylje> what self esteem
20100723 18:27:17< elias> yeah, tongue going all numb is one of the most horrible feelings
20100723 18:27:19< elvish_sovereign> you're still using the browser?
20100723 18:27:28< elvish_sovereign> artisticdude: ^
20100723 18:27:28< hylje> what browser
20100723 18:27:32< elias> then when you bite it you don't even notice until later :P
20100723 18:27:38< elvish_sovereign> lol
20100723 18:27:38< artisticdude> Eh, I used it out of habit.
20100723 18:27:51< artisticdude> elias: Ditto
20100723 18:28:02< elias> a few people now told me they had all taken out at once
20100723 18:28:07< elvish_sovereign> artisticdude: http://colloquy.info/
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20100723 18:28:11< elias> wonder why my dentist did it on 3(!) times
20100723 18:28:16< elvish_sovereign> artisticdude: http://www.irssi.org/
20100723 18:28:17< Tomsik> Heh, my mom doesn't have wisdom teeth yet, so I hope I won't ever have to go through this
20100723 18:28:27< artisticdude> Actually, getting braces hurt a lot more.
20100723 18:28:30< elias> now i only have the lower right left
20100723 18:28:36< elvish_sovereign> artisticdude: http://quassel-irc.org/
20100723 18:28:45< elvish_sovereign> braces?
20100723 18:28:50< elvish_sovereign> I got those
20100723 18:29:06< artisticdude> I wore them for nearly 2 years.
20100723 18:29:14< artisticdude> And they're saying I might have to get them again.
20100723 18:29:20< artisticdude> Which I'm not going to do.
20100723 18:29:28< artisticdude> It's not worth it.
20100723 18:29:29< elvish_sovereign> lol
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20100723 18:30:08< artisticdude> A small fortune gone, lots of pain endured, lots of hassle brushing and flossing and all that 3x a day (or more).
20100723 18:30:13< artisticdude> For two entire years.
20100723 18:30:25< elvish_sovereign> xD
20100723 18:30:29< elvish_sovereign> artisticdude: you've got three free choices in front of you
20100723 18:30:34< artisticdude> The maximum time anyone has to wear braces.
20100723 18:30:35< artisticdude> Only for them to say I need to do it again?
20100723 18:30:36< elvish_sovereign> colloqiy, irssi, and quassel
20100723 18:30:42< elvish_sovereign> xD
20100723 18:30:53< artisticdude> Already got colloquy.
20100723 18:30:57< elvish_sovereign> s/colloqiy/colloquy/
20100723 18:31:03< elvish_sovereign> really?
20100723 18:31:04< elvish_sovereign> okay
20100723 18:31:37< artisticdude> Actually, those little rubber things, 'spacers', that they put between your back teeth to make room for the braces, hurt MUCH more than the wisdom teeth surgery did.
20100723 18:32:15< artisticdude> But the worst part was when they forced those metal braces DEEP into MY GUMS without any pain medication AT ALL!
20100723 18:32:26< elvish_sovereign> oh that
20100723 18:32:32< elvish_sovereign> my sister had to do that
20100723 18:32:38< elvish_sovereign> luckily I don;t have to
20100723 18:32:43< elvish_sovereign> as they say
20100723 18:32:49< artisticdude> And some idiot nearly chopped my tongue in half trying to cut a wire...
20100723 18:32:50< elvish_sovereign> who knows if they will change their mind
20100723 18:33:36< artisticdude> All the while being called 'Sweetie' and 'Honey' and all those equally despicable titles.
20100723 18:33:46< elvish_sovereign> xD
20100723 18:34:26< artisticdude> Did I mention the wires that dug into the back of my mouth?
20100723 18:34:46< artisticdude> That I didn't notice until the day after they were put in, because everything felt so strange the first day.
20100723 18:34:56< artisticdude> Then I couldn't get an appointment.
20100723 18:35:08< hylje> i'm having trouble classifying this in either parody or rant
20100723 18:35:15< artisticdude> So I could barely chew, with this wire digging into the back of my mouth.
20100723 18:35:25< artisticdude> It's both. And then some.
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20100723 18:36:11< artisticdude> And then, when the braces were finally taken out, my 'permanent' retainer fell out (and it could have choked me to death).
20100723 18:36:27< artisticdude> And they couldn't get me an appointment for 3 months.
20100723 18:36:40< artisticdude> There, I think that's it...
20100723 18:36:49< artisticdude> ... for now.
20100723 18:37:08< artisticdude> Tragic story, isn't it?
20100723 18:37:15< Zerovirus> Yup
20100723 18:37:22< elias> yeah, made me feel all better about my upcoming appointment
20100723 18:37:49< artisticdude> How I have suffered in the name of Oral Health.
20100723 18:38:38< elias> how long did it take for the tooth-removal sounds to heal btw?
20100723 18:38:49< artisticdude> About three weeks.
20100723 18:40:00< elvish_sovereign> ouch
20100723 18:40:02< elias> hm, must be about 3 weeks for me for the lower left, but i still can feel some lobes of extra skin or something there
20100723 18:42:18< elvish_sovereign> ARGH
20100723 18:42:25< elvish_sovereign> I can't debug this
20100723 18:42:35< elvish_sovereign> anyone willing to lend a hand?
20100723 18:42:44< artisticdude> Debug what?
20100723 18:42:50< elvish_sovereign> my scenario
20100723 18:42:52< hylje> do you need a virtual rubber duck that is actually a human or someone that's actually competent?
20100723 18:42:58< elvish_sovereign> I can't seem to get it working
20100723 18:43:04< elvish_sovereign> and it's draggin the development speed behind
20100723 18:43:16< artisticdude> What's the error message
20100723 18:43:19< artisticdude> ?
20100723 18:43:27< elvish_sovereign> It's an ingame error
20100723 18:43:31< elvish_sovereign> one sec
20100723 18:44:01< hylje> windowed mode to rescue
20100723 18:44:27< elvish_sovereign> http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/1JwhGZnr
20100723 18:44:34< elvish_sovereign> the problem is starting from line 228
20100723 18:45:25< elvish_sovereign> sookeeper told me to look at the save file and look for the error
20100723 18:45:31< elvish_sovereign> but I didn;t find anything
20100723 18:45:36< elvish_sovereign> http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/LGrn4A58
20100723 18:45:47< elvish_sovereign> pasting the save for convience
20100723 18:47:00< elvish_sovereign> s/sookeeper/zookeeper/
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20100723 18:47:32< artisticdude> Looks fine to me. Although I haven't done anything with random variables for a long time now, so I'm a bit rusty...
20100723 18:47:50< elvish_sovereign> it's the [switch] part
20100723 18:48:16< elvish_sovereign> the images don't show up and when I move the unit onto the hex, it says I;m trying to create a unit without a type
20100723 18:48:46< elvish_sovereign> Luke the Flaming tested it out without the custom units, and it worked fine.
20100723 18:49:01< elvish_sovereign> And I checked the custom units
20100723 18:49:09< artisticdude> Your id match, right?
20100723 18:49:10< elvish_sovereign> I really don't know what's wrong
20100723 18:49:12< elvish_sovereign> yse
20100723 18:49:18< elvish_sovereign> PL Goblin Spearman, for ex.
20100723 18:49:28< elvish_sovereign> ohhp
20100723 18:49:32< elvish_sovereign> have to go eat
20100723 18:49:35< elvish_sovereign> brb
20100723 18:49:43< Zerovirus> Oh huh, I learned something today
20100723 18:49:54< Zerovirus> Sprites can look good even with a distinct lack of antialiasing
20100723 18:49:57< Zerovirus> Huh.
20100723 18:50:25< artisticdude> I tend to antialias too much by default.
20100723 18:50:34< zookeeper> well at least you're trying to create a unit without coordinates...
20100723 18:50:40< zookeeper> line 2450
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20100723 18:53:27< G-Lo> does someone know how to play Wesband Map without dying the first turns? :(
20100723 19:00:35< Zerovirus> Debug? :P
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20100723 19:04:51< artisticdude> Dang it, Google Groups has a max file limit of 16.
20100723 19:05:09< artisticdude> Oh no wait...
20100723 19:05:29< artisticdude> Okay, so I deleted all the files and tried to upload a new one.
20100723 19:05:43< artisticdude> It still doesn't work.
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20100723 19:06:04< PetePorty> Hello guys.
20100723 19:07:04< artisticdude> Hey man.
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20100723 19:07:51< artisticdude> What the heck?
20100723 19:07:59< artisticdude> Argh.
20100723 19:08:06< artisticdude> Google Groups Sux.
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20100723 19:10:05< Zerovirus> What're you trying to do with a google group anyways?
20100723 19:10:37< artisticdude> e_s and I were trying to set up a Google Group so we could use that instead of SVN.
20100723 19:10:48< Gambit> Anyone up for a game of breaking ground?
20100723 19:10:56< Gambit> A ground breaking game of breaking ground.
20100723 19:10:56< artisticdude> So we could upload files as we complete them.
20100723 19:11:07< Gambit> artisticdude: Google docs?
20100723 19:11:22< artisticdude> Does that have multiple access permissions?
20100723 19:11:29< Zerovirus> Nah Gambs not now
20100723 19:11:35< Gambit> artisticdude: Yes
20100723 19:11:37< Zerovirus> i'm busy discovering new paradigms of pixelart
20100723 19:11:46< Zerovirus> That and listening to Homestuck music
20100723 19:11:59< Gambit> Zerovirus: New paradigms? You learned sentinal pixelart didn't you!?
20100723 19:12:05< artisticdude> I would, but I'm afraid I'm not very good at it.
20100723 19:12:14< Zerovirus> sentinal? i'm not sure what you misspelled that for
20100723 19:12:21< artisticdude> And I'm busy cursing Google.
20100723 19:12:31< Zerovirus> Google should be a curse word
20100723 19:12:31< PetePorty> Gambit, if you want a rematch, just ask for it.
20100723 19:12:35< Zerovirus> It'd be the most awesome curse word ever
20100723 19:12:45< Zerovirus> "I'm going to google your yahoo, you bing!"
20100723 19:12:48< Gambit> PetePorty: If we can get two more.
20100723 19:13:00< PetePorty> Zero, wanna get a second chance?
20100723 19:13:06< Gambit> He can't.
20100723 19:13:11< PetePorty> :/
20100723 19:13:13< Gambit> He's upgrading his crystarium.
20100723 19:13:22< Zerovirus> My what?
20100723 19:13:23< PetePorty> elvish_sovereign?
20100723 19:13:48< Zerovirus> No, I'm verifying my coaxial institutions.
20100723 19:13:51< PetePorty> Gambit, he's playing a survival game....
20100723 19:13:59< Gambit> Zerovirus: So how many crystogen points are you putting into these new paradigms?
20100723 19:14:16< Zerovirus> I have no idea what you're tlaking about anymore
20100723 19:14:20< Zerovirus> You're funny
20100723 19:14:20< Gambit> oooh new post in art developement
20100723 19:14:34< Gambit> Because Janebot is awesome and lets you know these things.
20100723 19:14:37 * artisticdude runs off to the forums to see
20100723 19:14:41< Gambit> Not that anyone has used it so far >_>
20100723 19:15:06< Gambit> It's as simple as !subscribe 18
20100723 19:15:06< PetePorty> e_s
20100723 19:15:09< Gambit> And viola
20100723 19:15:10< PetePorty> you there?
20100723 19:15:26< PetePorty> why the '18'?
20100723 19:15:30< Gambit> PetePorty: ig2g for lunch
20100723 19:15:36< Gambit> PetePorty: Art development is forum 18
20100723 19:15:38< PetePorty> :(
20100723 19:15:42< PetePorty> ok.
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20100723 19:16:39< etherx> Hello
20100723 19:16:44< Zerovirus> Pff, you just noticed the new stuff in Artcontributions?
20100723 19:16:47< Zerovirus> You guys need to F5 more
20100723 19:17:17< PetePorty> Hi, etherx 
20100723 19:17:32< PetePorty> wait, why is it 18?
20100723 19:17:40< PetePorty> it should be 20...
20100723 19:18:36< PetePorty> Lunch time. C ya guys.
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20100723 19:19:56< artisticdude> I didn't know my fencing coach was a poet. ^^
20100723 19:20:09< artisticdude> Oh fencing pants, oh fencing pants
20100723 19:20:15< artisticdude> How I love my fencing pants. 
20100723 19:20:22< artisticdude> You will flex, have so much class  
20100723 19:20:33< artisticdude> You won't rip, expose my ass.
20100723 19:20:36< artisticdude> :/
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20100723 19:21:06< Tomsik> This sounds seriously like the violation of heteropact
20100723 19:21:07< Zerovirus> He fences a lot / Using shiny pointy sticks / stab you in the face
20100723 19:21:11< Zerovirus> A fencing haiku :D
20100723 19:21:36< artisticdude> Yay!
20100723 19:21:59< artisticdude> I want to hit somebody with a sword right now.
20100723 19:22:31< artisticdude> Preferably the person who set up Google Groups.
20100723 19:23:13< Zerovirus> Google will sue you / If you kill executives / evil corporates
20100723 19:23:16< Tomsik> You don't have the balls to do that.
20100723 19:23:46< artisticdude> I'll run away.
20100723 19:23:53< artisticdude> Live on a tropical island.
20100723 19:23:56< artisticdude> Eat coconuts.
20100723 19:24:01< Tomsik> and become nuts?
20100723 19:24:04< artisticdude> Get dysentery.
20100723 19:24:23< artisticdude> Hunt fish with a pointed stick.
20100723 19:24:37< artisticdude> But at least I'll have stood up for the rights of those abused by Google Groups.
20100723 19:25:25< Zerovirus> I am an hero / Hermit in pacific isles / Lots of coconuts
20100723 19:26:36< Gambit> Zerovirus: I don't F5
20100723 19:26:43< artisticdude> An hero. Wow, you're one of the few people I've ever seen/heard use an/a and an H-word correctly.
20100723 19:26:43< Gambit> My robot reports new posts to me.
20100723 19:26:47< artisticdude> Kudos.
20100723 19:26:47< Gambit> Every 10 minutes.
20100723 19:26:54< Gambit> Zerovirus: It can report them to you too :D
20100723 19:27:03< Gambit> All you have to do is /msg Janebot !subscribe 18
20100723 19:27:06< Zerovirus> I do not Eff Five / I have an awesome program / And no life at all
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20100723 19:27:18< Zerovirus> Describes Gambs to the greatest extent possible
20100723 19:27:26< Gambit> Or instead of 18, any forum you want
20100723 19:27:28< Gambit> Or a list of them
20100723 19:27:32< Gambit> 18,36
20100723 19:27:51< Gambit> I would lol if someone subscribed to off-topic
20100723 19:27:59< Gambit> They'd get spammed so bad.
20100723 19:28:51< Gambit> Naughtvirus: Hwæt happened to thy name?
20100723 19:29:09< Zerovirus> SHUT UP
20100723 19:29:45< Zerovirus> Gambit thinks he's cool / Using old english wording / Will you please shut up
20100723 19:29:47< Zerovirus> :P
20100723 19:30:24< Tomsik> Zerovirus thinks he's cool as he's using some goddamn redundant syntax.
20100723 19:30:31< Gambit> Olde Englisc
20100723 19:30:33< Zerovirus> Exactly
20100723 19:30:45< Zerovirus> But the difference is that I actually am cool :P
20100723 19:30:58< Gambit> pfffft
20100723 19:31:08< Gambit> We're just cool in different ways.
20100723 19:31:42< Tomsik> Yeah, you're dead-body cool :p
20100723 19:32:12< Zerovirus> lol
20100723 19:32:19< artisticdude> I heard some guy trying to talk 'Old English' a couple weeks back. 
20100723 19:32:21< artisticdude> Wheretofor art thee at?"
20100723 19:32:32< Gambit> Naughtvirus is absolute naught cool.
20100723 19:32:33< artisticdude> :/
20100723 19:32:59< Zerovirus> Artisticdude is / a four syllable long word / this was hard to make
20100723 19:33:01< Gambit> His coolness is only theoretically possible.
20100723 19:33:39< Gambit> And if it ever fully occured everything would die.
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20100723 19:36:29< artisticdude> Aw come on. How obscene can people get in Off-Topic? X(
20100723 19:37:19< artisticdude> Man.
20100723 19:37:21< Gambit> wtf meo?
20100723 19:37:23< artisticdude> Anyway.
20100723 19:37:42< Gambit> He needs... dealt with.
20100723 19:37:54< artisticdude> Frogatto's available for iPod. :D
20100723 19:38:01< artisticdude> I should go download it.
20100723 19:38:34< artisticdude> But my iPod's upstairs, and I'm in the basement.
20100723 19:41:10< Zerovirus> :O
20100723 19:41:13< Zerovirus> BUYING IT NOW
20100723 19:41:23< Zerovirus> screw asking for permission :P
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20100723 19:43:10< Gambit> artisticdude: is the fridge sprite yours?
20100723 19:43:43< artisticdude> yeah, all mine, although heavily influenced by something over at pixel joint.
20100723 19:44:44< artisticdude> Hmm, apparently some people are having trouble with the iOS version controls.
20100723 19:45:55< artisticdude> http://www.pixeljoint.com/pixelart/16762.htm
20100723 19:46:10< artisticdude> My inspiration (and where I stole the palette :P)
20100723 19:46:30< Gambit> artisticdude: you should sprite wesnoth furniture!
20100723 19:46:48< artisticdude> Attack of the Chairs.
20100723 19:46:57< Gambit> yessss
20100723 19:47:14< Gambit> They look like normal chairs in the standing anim
20100723 19:47:22< Gambit> s/anim/frame/
20100723 19:47:29< Gambit> But then they grow mouths in the attack anim :o
20100723 19:47:58< Gambit> artisticdude: I ken haz sofa?
20100723 19:48:08< artisticdude> Oh noez.
20100723 19:48:16< artisticdude> What have I gotten myself into?
20100723 19:48:40 * artisticdude runs off to make a sofa
20100723 19:48:47< artisticdude> Hold on...
20100723 19:48:51< artisticdude> A sofa?
20100723 19:49:49< Zerovirus> ...Wow, and any doubt that meowreka was trolling all of us just evaporated.
20100723 19:49:52< Zerovirus> Asshole.
20100723 19:50:12< artisticdude> I know. X(
20100723 19:50:50< artisticdude> Is there a difference between a sofa and a couch?
20100723 19:52:26< Zerovirus> Couches are associated with potatoes.
20100723 19:52:52< Zerovirus> Goddamn will someone ban meowreka already?
20100723 19:52:58< Zerovirus> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=30769
20100723 19:56:18< Gambit> artisticdude: sofa sounds cooler
20100723 19:56:49< artisticdude> Sofa sounds like a french word, for some reason.
20100723 19:57:04< artisticdude> Soh-fah
20100723 19:57:21< Zerovirus> sofa + couch = slouch
20100723 19:57:24< Zerovirus> :O
20100723 19:57:30< artisticdude> Lol.
20100723 19:58:18< PetePorty> back
20100723 19:58:45< Gambit> artisticdude: Soh-fah is clearly native american
20100723 19:59:44< PetePorty> Le sofa est un palabre francais
20100723 19:59:56< PetePorty> It *is* french...
20100723 20:00:13< PetePorty> ...une palbre...*
20100723 20:00:21< Gambit> Okay. We never speak of this again.
20100723 20:00:34< PetePorty> lol.
20100723 20:00:44< artisticdude> Sofa francais non est, set pars linguae latinae est. Veritas est.
20100723 20:00:46< Gambit> Actually...
20100723 20:00:51< Gambit> It's Arabic :D
20100723 20:01:08< Gambit> I'm not sure how You-Know-Who feels about Arabic, but I know he hates frenchies.
20100723 20:01:18< PetePorty> It is used in french, I'm not saying it was the first language to use it...
20100723 20:01:33< PetePorty> It is also used in spanish
20100723 20:02:07< artisticdude> Based on the arabic "ṣuffa."
20100723 20:02:21< artisticdude> If you sit on that soffa, you will soffa great agonies.
20100723 20:02:38< artisticdude> Because the springs are sharp and pointy.
20100723 20:02:50< PetePorty> Gamb, come on, you loled so hard your lungs exploded.
20100723 20:03:04< Zerovirus> I DID IT!
20100723 20:03:12< Zerovirus> I destroyed most if not all of the pillowing!
20100723 20:03:13< PetePorty> Don't deny it, Gambit.
20100723 20:03:14< Zerovirus> VICTORY TO ME
20100723 20:03:19< Zerovirus> IA IA ZEROVIRUS FHTAGN
20100723 20:03:20< Gambit> No.
20100723 20:03:24< Gambit> Victory for Zim!
20100723 20:03:31< PetePorty> congratulations, Zerovirus 
20100723 20:03:34< Zerovirus> This was a triumph
20100723 20:03:38< Zerovirus> I'm making a note here
20100723 20:03:40< Zerovirus> Huge success
20100723 20:03:41< artisticdude> Down with pillowing! :D
20100723 20:03:43< PetePorty> Gambit, accept it!
20100723 20:03:46< Zerovirus> (I happen to be listening to the portal theme :P)
20100723 20:05:06< Zerovirus> It's not finished yet, but the major problems are all finished with
20100723 20:05:08< Zerovirus> Yay me
20100723 20:07:12< Zerovirus> And now to completely cover him with armor
20100723 20:07:16< Zerovirus> screw his dark cloak stuff
20100723 20:09:45< Gambit> I'm tempted to believe Meo's account has been stolen.
20100723 20:09:57< Gambit> His posts seem to have come less mature with time.
20100723 20:10:10< PetePorty> who the hell is meo?
20100723 20:10:29< Gambit> Of course he did start his forum career by complaining about bans and kicks.
20100723 20:10:40< Gambit> But then he got into WML and things were looking up.
20100723 20:10:44< Gambit> He said please and thank you's.
20100723 20:10:57< Gambit> And now... yeahs...
20100723 20:11:08< PetePorty> well, my first wesnoth friend has become kinda... stupid
20100723 20:11:09< PetePorty> too
20100723 20:11:42< PetePorty> He was cool, and now he is... like Hula.
20100723 20:12:26< artisticdude> Hulavuta isn't that bad.
20100723 20:12:41< PetePorty> no, I actually like Hula.
20100723 20:12:45< Zerovirus> to quote meowreka: "disgaea"
20100723 20:12:49< Zerovirus> Hula's okay
20100723 20:12:55< PetePorty> but... he *is* childish
20100723 20:13:00< Gambit> HA
20100723 20:13:02< PetePorty> Me too, I'm not denying it...
20100723 20:13:02< Gambit> pot
20100723 20:13:03< Zerovirus> You are too Pete once in a while
20100723 20:13:04< Gambit> kettle
20100723 20:13:07< Gambit> PetePorty: that's good.
20100723 20:13:19< Zerovirus> I'm egotistic once in a while, that's not good :P
20100723 20:13:27< Gambit> Actually it's almost like the pot calling the... something... that
20100723 20:13:29< Gambit> is gray
20100723 20:13:31< Gambit> blah
20100723 20:13:33< Gambit> *black
20100723 20:13:44< PetePorty> the thing is... this guy used to be all cool and mature, and now he's like a 12 year old...
20100723 20:14:02< artisticdude> And I'm...?
20100723 20:14:05 * Gambit rolls eyes
20100723 20:14:15< PetePorty> but you don't sound that way.
20100723 20:14:22< artisticdude> O.o
20100723 20:14:51< artisticdude> Reverse maturity development syndrome.
20100723 20:15:06< PetePorty> yeah.
20100723 20:15:27< Gambit> Actually it's Cyclical Maturity Development Snydrome
20100723 20:15:31< PetePorty> maybe it isn't him, when I asked him about some stuff that happened, he didn't remember...
20100723 20:15:39< Gambit> And on each cycle the crests get higher and the troughs lower.
20100723 20:16:00< artisticdude> He wouldn't. :P
20100723 20:16:09< PetePorty> I didn't see him for like a month, and I saw him, and he is... not himself...
20100723 20:16:34< PetePorty> now, who is meo?
20100723 20:16:52< Gambit> His identity has been concealed for his own protection.
20100723 20:17:10< Gambit> His behavior is embarrasing.
20100723 20:17:15< Gambit> PetePorty: meowrecka
20100723 20:17:25< PetePorty> oh, ok. thanks.
20100723 20:17:27< artisticdude> If he knew himself, he might cause himself harm. 
20100723 20:17:37< artisticdude> So we haven't told him who he is.
20100723 20:17:52< Zerovirus> That is so stupid
20100723 20:18:10< artisticdude> I know.
20100723 20:18:43< artisticdude> I'm tired.
20100723 20:19:07< Gambit> artisticdude: I think Zerovirus means we should tell him and let him harm himself.
20100723 20:19:13< Gambit> It's stupid to keep him in the dark.
20100723 20:19:19< Zerovirus> Whatever
20100723 20:19:29< artisticdude> Didn't get to sleep until 3:00 last night, and woke up at 7:00.
20100723 20:19:31< Zerovirus> What I meant was this whole syndrome thing is stupid
20100723 20:19:42< Zerovirus> Who came up with this kind of syndrome? Because it's stupid.
20100723 20:19:43< Zerovirus> Stupid.
20100723 20:19:45< Zerovirus> >.<
20100723 20:20:33< Tomsik> Most of "syndromes" are stupid
20100723 20:20:38 * artisticdude wonders whether the sofa should be leather or cloth
20100723 20:21:06< Zerovirus> make it leather
20100723 20:21:08< Zerovirus> human leather
20100723 20:21:29< Tomsik> unbaptized baby leather
20100723 20:21:39< Tomsik> afk
20100723 20:21:44< artisticdude> I could make it leather and have Natalie whats-her-name freak out. :P
20100723 20:22:06< Gambit> Can you have your last name legally changed?
20100723 20:22:10< PetePorty> ...refrigerator>sprite?
20100723 20:22:15< Gambit> I want to be Derek Whatzizface
20100723 20:22:16< PetePorty> that's nonsense
20100723 20:22:16< hylje> usually you can change your name
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20100723 20:22:31< hylje> up to and including stupid stuff like cartoon characters
20100723 20:22:31< artisticdude> no, refrigerator=sprite
20100723 20:22:35< artisticdude> I proved it.
20100723 20:22:39< PetePorty> Yes, Gamb, you can.
20100723 20:22:57< artisticdude> The one in star wars...
20100723 20:23:00< PetePorty> artisticdude, no, a sprite is way superior than a refrigerator
20100723 20:23:23< artisticdude> The pathetic actor...
20100723 20:23:34< artisticdude> Dang it, I can't remember it.
20100723 20:23:37< artisticdude> Ah.
20100723 20:23:40< artisticdude> Who cares.
20100723 20:23:56< hylje> i use elves to preserve my foodstuffs
20100723 20:24:05< PetePorty> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=30793&start=30
20100723 20:24:05< hylje> screw sprites
20100723 20:24:08< PetePorty> seriously?
20100723 20:24:09< hylje> they don't do anything
20100723 20:24:39< artisticdude> ????!!!!!>>??!!
20100723 20:24:48 * Zerovirus nerdrages
20100723 20:25:03< Zerovirus> Oh and screw the mona lisa too while we're at it :P
20100723 20:28:12< PetePorty> timotei is ignoring me... it's all your fault, Gambit.
20100723 20:28:20< PetePorty> it was a good pic.
20100723 20:29:31< hylje> oh no, collateral dramu
20100723 20:30:34< Gambit> Anyone up for breaking ground?
20100723 20:31:40< Gambit> The ground breaking new addon from the people who brought you Gladiator Arena, Hunters and Prey, and... nothing else of note.
20100723 20:31:43< artisticdude> I wish I could, but I've got 5 pages of math to finish before tonight. Sorry. :(
20100723 20:32:20< hylje> what's breaking ground about?
20100723 20:32:31< hylje> i'm le ill and can't think straight so i might as well grind wesnoth
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20100723 20:33:09< Gambit> hylje: You break the ground (heh) to get money.
20100723 20:33:16< Gambit> You spend the money on more things that break the ground.
20100723 20:33:22< Gambit> the map is ever shrinking in order to fund the war
20100723 20:33:26< Gambit> and the war shrinks the map
20100723 20:33:36< PetePorty> I will play, Gamb, if you get two more people
20100723 20:33:55< Gambit> There's some bullcrap ecological message in there somewhere I think...
20100723 20:34:01< Gambit> hylje: It's a quick game and only a 14kb download.
20100723 20:34:05< artisticdude> what's with the "Gamb" stuff?
20100723 20:34:08< hylje> how do i download it
20100723 20:34:14< Gambit> hylje: The addon server.
20100723 20:34:17< Gambit> Close to the bottom.
20100723 20:34:18< hylje> oh
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20100723 20:34:54< hylje> done
20100723 20:35:04< Gambit> cool I'll go host
20100723 20:35:17< Gambit> PetePorty: come on
20100723 20:35:19< Gambit> I've got four
20100723 20:35:25< PetePorty> cool
20100723 20:36:09< Gambit> is up
20100723 20:36:18< PetePorty> joining server
20100723 20:36:45< e_s-iOS> Hi
20100723 20:37:04< artisticdude> Hello.
20100723 20:37:20< e_s-iOS> And so I read you were cursing Google?
20100723 20:37:48< artisticdude> Google Groups.
20100723 20:38:19< artisticdude> I'm trying to set up Google Documents instead, since Google Groups wouldn't let me upload anything. X(
20100723 20:38:28< e_s-iOS> xD
20100723 20:38:45< e_s-iOS> For docs you'll need to copy each file separately....
20100723 20:51:42< etherx> ./וןא
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20100723 21:05:15< PetePorty> You suck, Gambit.
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20100723 21:05:20< hylje> no
20100723 21:05:21< hylje> he owns
20100723 21:05:28< PetePorty> Bo, he sucks
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20100723 21:05:31< PetePorty> No*
20100723 21:05:34< shadowmaster> hostility warning
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20100723 21:06:06< PetePorty> shadowmaster, you should have seen the game.
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20100723 21:06:55< PetePorty> It was soooo unfair.
20100723 21:07:14< artisticdude> :roll:
20100723 21:07:43< Gambit> shadowmaster: you should play the game :D
20100723 21:07:55< Gambit> A person I happen to know you respect said "It's fun"
20100723 21:08:07< shadowmaster> Gambit: who's that?
20100723 21:08:13< Gambit> shadowmaster: shadowmaster
20100723 21:08:24< shadowmaster> yes, but I don't feel like playing atm
20100723 21:08:29< shadowmaster> I have serious business to attend to.
20100723 21:08:39< Gambit> shadowmaster: Does it involve meowrecka?
20100723 21:08:43< Gambit> (please say yes)
20100723 21:08:46< shadowmaster> no
20100723 21:08:50< shadowmaster> I haven't seen the forums yet.
20100723 21:09:08< e_s-iOS> Yes please take care of meowrecka
20100723 21:09:13< e_s-iOS> Thanks :)
20100723 21:09:17< shadowmaster> meowreka
20100723 21:09:18< Gambit> hylje, PetePorty play again?
20100723 21:09:22< shadowmaster> what the hell is going on?
20100723 21:09:30< PetePorty> meh.. nah
20100723 21:09:40< shadowmaster> you people are scaring me.
20100723 21:09:40< e_s-iOS> Forums
20100723 21:09:45< e_s-iOS> Ahh
20100723 21:09:48< shadowmaster> will I find out that some moster has taken over the forums if I go there now?
20100723 21:09:49< e_s-iOS> Nasty little brat
20100723 21:09:55< shadowmaster> monster
20100723 21:10:02< e_s-iOS> One sec
20100723 21:10:11< artisticdude> tsi already locked the thread.
20100723 21:10:12< hylje> just host Gambit 
20100723 21:10:33< Gambit> hylje: okay but it's not that popular yet
20100723 21:10:38< e_s-iOS> http://forum.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=444862#p444862
20100723 21:10:39< Gambit> I doubt we'll get anyone else that we don't invite
20100723 21:10:51< Gambit> or worse they'll join without the addon despite the title saying they needed
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20100723 21:10:56< hylje> well but i just wanted to join
20100723 21:11:00< Zerovirus_> WAs someone talking about me?
20100723 21:11:03< Gambit> or even worse they'll join and when I ask them if they have the addon, they'll lie about it
20100723 21:11:21< Gambit> (true story!)
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20100723 21:11:30< hylje> Zerovirus_: no
20100723 21:11:40< Gambit> Zerovirus_: rematch?
20100723 21:11:45< Zerovirus_> Nah
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20100723 21:12:55< Gambit> Anyone else out there want to play?
20100723 21:13:01< Gambit> I know you're watching. Waiting.
20100723 21:14:03< e_s-iOS> Gambit: I played BG last night with 4 other people. In the end they decided I was too strong and formed an alliance. I still won.
20100723 21:14:14< e_s-iOS> With 3, sorry
20100723 21:14:17< hylje> bg?
20100723 21:14:29< artisticdude> breaking ground
20100723 21:16:03< Gambit> e_s-iOS: awesome
20100723 21:16:19< e_s-iOS> Not really
20100723 21:16:48< shadowmaster> I see that BG still inspires people to establish alliances despite the lack of a proper alliances system in Wesnoth :)
20100723 21:17:20< artisticdude> I have to get the latest version from the server.
20100723 21:17:27< shadowmaster> (that's a Good Thing™, of course.)
20100723 21:17:27< hylje> wesnoth is the kind of game which could have an elaborate deals and pacts system
20100723 21:17:59< zookeeper> actually i'm working on a diplomacy era atm
20100723 21:18:01< shadowmaster> the problem is that "elaborate" is the opposite of Wesnoth design philosophy.
20100723 21:18:23< Gambit> I never ally.
20100723 21:18:27< Gambit> I Work Alone™
20100723 21:18:30< zookeeper> it'll pretty much only feature making and breaking alliances though, not complicated deals like trading villages or whatever
20100723 21:18:44 * artisticdude thinks KISS is a very... weird acronym
20100723 21:18:54< Gambit> KISS or HUG
20100723 21:19:01< zookeeper> i'd expect to have it on the add-on server pretty soon
20100723 21:19:31< artisticdude> Cool.
20100723 21:21:20< hylje> a simple deal system would have gold lump, gold per turn, forced ally/enemy between two players and a turn limit
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20100723 21:21:47< hylje> elaborate would have a full blown campaign esque objectives set
20100723 21:21:58< shadowmaster> I prefer AoE 2's alliances system.
20100723 21:22:13< shadowmaster> as simple as it can get IMO.
20100723 21:22:29< shadowmaster> (so if you ally with a side that doesn't ally with you, it's your loss) :P
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20100723 21:22:56< shadowmaster> tributes being an optional thing too
20100723 21:23:02< Hulavuta> I just saw Inception
20100723 21:24:54< shadowmaster> so, as I was saying.
20100723 21:25:02< Hulavuta> sorry
20100723 21:25:07< shadowmaster> that kind of thing is KISS enough in my opinion.
20100723 21:25:34< shadowmaster> so players must establish their own ways of achieving/sustaining an alliance
20100723 21:25:54< shadowmaster> instead of having the game do that for them. It's also more flexible IMO
20100723 21:25:57< zookeeper> AoE is an RTS, right?
20100723 21:26:01< shadowmaster> yes
20100723 21:26:28< zookeeper> well, i'd imagine that in an RTS it's easier to form alliances without the game supporting it
20100723 21:26:54< zookeeper> in wesnoth, your ally can backstab and ruin you in one turn, whereas in an RTS it's harder to make a sudden effective surprise attack
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20100723 21:27:08< hylje> rts requires game supported alliances because troops will auto acquire
20100723 21:27:08< zookeeper> you can also keep your distance to establish trust
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20100723 21:27:17< hylje> alliances will directly affect how your troops act
20100723 21:27:31< shadowmaster> well, the alliance/enemy status could have effect only once your turn's over
20100723 21:27:46< Hulavuta> cha cha cha
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20100723 21:27:50< shadowmaster> that way you can decide to become enemy against some player and attack them in the same turn.
20100723 21:28:15< shadowmaster> er, I mean "cannot"
20100723 21:28:47< e_s-iOS> Erm
20100723 21:28:57< e_s-iOS> This thing is out of batts
20100723 21:29:02< e_s-iOS> See ya guys later.
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20100723 21:29:44< zookeeper> shadowmaster, well, i thought you were talking about not having that
20100723 21:30:35< zookeeper> anyway, in my diplomacy era everything takes one full turn to take effect
20100723 21:31:07< zookeeper> so if you want to leave your team or call a vote to kick someone off your team, it'll take one turn to happen
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20100723 22:05:06< hylje> well that was almost upsetting
20100723 22:06:49 * PetePorty is mad.
20100723 22:07:50< artisticdude> ??
20100723 22:08:00< artisticdude> What's with all the upset people on IRC?
20100723 22:08:07< hylje> we play this game
20100723 22:08:11< hylje> you may not know it
20100723 22:08:15< hylje> i think it's named wesnoth
20100723 22:08:23< hylje> it has these fancy user things
20100723 22:08:26< hylje> called add-ons
20100723 22:08:33< hylje> we played one of these addons
20100723 22:08:37< hylje> that was created by Gambit
20100723 22:08:42< artisticdude> Again?
20100723 22:08:49< hylje> yes, again
20100723 22:09:01< Gambit> hylje: Why was it upsetting? You won. :D
20100723 22:09:13< Gambit> soo apparently I don't have to go for 15 more minutes
20100723 22:09:13< hylje> not upsetting, just almost upsetting
20100723 22:09:18< Gambit> because people can't make up their minds
20100723 22:09:28< Gambit> gah wtf
20100723 22:09:30< Gambit> make that 5 again
20100723 22:09:33< Gambit> hahaha
20100723 22:09:58< hylje> you were saying it
20100723 22:10:48< artisticdude> How does everyone get upset by an add-on?
20100723 22:10:56< Gambit> artisticdude: No idea.
20100723 22:11:02 * Gambit had a blast
20100723 22:11:05< Gambit> Even though I lost.
20100723 22:11:07< Gambit> Twice...
20100723 22:11:42< artisticdude> I played it against myself several times, and it wasn't upsetting at all.
20100723 22:11:53< hylje> you were not playing against antagonistic people
20100723 22:12:02< artisticdude> An once against my brother (I won XD)
20100723 22:12:09< artisticdude> *And*
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20100723 22:54:37< Hulavuta> Hi
20100723 22:55:14< PetePorty> Ok, hula, you HAVE to lol at this: http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/0807/wat-demotivational-poster-1215129767.jpg
20100723 22:55:31< PetePorty> Hulavuta: ^
20100723 22:55:43< PetePorty> Nobody else laughed, but you gotta laugh
20100723 22:55:45< elvish_sovereign> oh noez
20100723 22:56:48< Hulavuta> Okay.....ewww
20100723 22:56:58< Hulavuta> I chuckled a little bit, because I'm a sicko, but that's just nasty...
20100723 22:57:15< PetePorty> but you *did* laugh
20100723 22:57:22< PetePorty> It is my best screenshot.
20100723 22:57:26< PetePorty> _ever_
20100723 22:57:27< Hulavuta> If you count smiling
20100723 22:57:29< Tomsik_> It's as old as uh.. looking for a good comparision
20100723 22:57:43< Hulavuta> I didn't understand all of it either
20100723 22:57:48< PetePorty> wtf?
20100723 22:57:53< Hulavuta> Is the girl saying that she has a pussy and a penis?
20100723 22:58:00< PetePorty> oh... 8year old..
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20100723 22:58:02< PetePorty> no
20100723 22:58:16< PetePorty> Hula, you suck, there is no girl
20100723 22:58:29< Hulavuta> ....I'm confused now
20100723 22:58:53< PetePorty> he never says he's a girl
20100723 22:59:02< PetePorty> sweetangel13 is a guy
20100723 22:59:25< Hulavuta> It's not funny anymore
20100723 22:59:33< PetePorty> also, the 'wat' is priceless
20100723 22:59:41< PetePorty> Hula, shut up, you know nothing...
20100723 22:59:47< Tomsik_> It's a troll, not a guy.
20100723 22:59:49< PetePorty> It's my best screenshot ever.
20100723 22:59:55< Hulavuta> You did that?
20100723 23:00:07< PetePorty> No.
20100723 23:00:22< Hulavuta> You saw it?
20100723 23:00:25< PetePorty> I set it as a screenwall, and I took a screenshot.
20100723 23:00:29< Hulavuta> Ok
20100723 23:00:37< elvish_sovereign> Hulavuta: Lemme tell you a secret
20100723 23:00:53< elvish_sovereign> sweetangel13 is PetePorty actually
20100723 23:01:02< Hulavuta> I'm going to stop talking about it now before shadow master permabans me
20100723 23:01:04< PetePorty> Actually, I'm both of them.
20100723 23:01:28< PetePorty> I made 2 accounts on a certian chat, and I talked to myself
20100723 23:01:29< elvish_sovereign> Hulavuta: Wise idea.
20100723 23:01:34< PetePorty> just for the lulz
20100723 23:01:49< PetePorty> hey, he has all the right to be homosexual
20100723 23:01:56< PetePorty> and there's nothing wrong with it.
20100723 23:02:27< Hulavuta> You know there's a game called Epic Mickey?
20100723 23:02:32< Hulavuta> (Yes, Mickey Mouse)
20100723 23:02:46< PetePorty> ...
20100723 23:02:57< PetePorty> good subject switch
20100723 23:03:13< Hulavuta> I already told you, I don't want to talk about that chat thing because I'll get banned
20100723 23:03:26< PetePorty> by you-know-who
20100723 23:03:31< Hulavuta> shadow master
20100723 23:03:34< PetePorty> we should refer to him like this...
20100723 23:03:45< PetePorty> I think that still highlights him..
20100723 23:03:46< Hulavuta> He Who Must Not Be Named
20100723 23:03:53< hylje> grow up
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20100723 23:04:07< Hulavuta> hylje: Me?
20100723 23:04:14< PetePorty> He's like the only dev I've ever talked to... oh, and Espreon
20100723 23:05:10< Hulavuta> There needs to be a way to type someone's nick in without signaling them
20100723 23:05:21< Rhonda> PetePorty: You say that as if there would be something wrong with being homosexual?
20100723 23:05:30< PetePorty> Nope.
20100723 23:05:42< PetePorty> I'm defending the guy.
20100723 23:06:45< Hulavuta> I thought they were fake? I thought you were having a chat with yourself?
20100723 23:07:04< PetePorty> No, man.
20100723 23:07:11< PetePorty> That part was irony.
20100723 23:07:15< Hulavuta> So they were REAL people??????
20100723 23:07:16< Hulavuta> wtf
20100723 23:07:19< Rhonda> He did, and he hates himself, so he denies to talk to himself.
20100723 23:07:23< PetePorty> Damn, this is why I hate chats.
20100723 23:07:32< Hulavuta> because it's hard to tell sarcasm?
20100723 23:07:35< PetePorty> yes.
20100723 23:07:42< Rhonda> http://deb.at/~rhonda/sarcasm.png
20100723 23:07:46< Hulavuta> especially in chat, where there's no italics
20100723 23:07:58< PetePorty> Well, I actually don't hate it, but... I talk like 55% with sarcasm.
20100723 23:08:01< Hulavuta> Rhonda: lol
20100723 23:08:17< PetePorty> Is it SfW?
20100723 23:08:20< Rhonda> Yes.
20100723 23:08:25< PetePorty> ah..
20100723 23:08:28< PetePorty> lol
20100723 23:08:31< Rhonda> Even thow one guy is wearing a morning gawn.
20100723 23:08:33< PetePorty> I love that show...
20100723 23:08:53< Rhonda> erm, or what the proper word is.
20100723 23:08:57< Hulavuta> What does SfW stand for?
20100723 23:09:04< Hulavuta> I'm horrible with acronyms
20100723 23:09:05< Rhonda> Suitable for Work.
20100723 23:09:10< Hulavuta> ohhhh
20100723 23:09:12< Hulavuta> never heard of it
20100723 23:09:13< Hulavuta> lol
20100723 23:09:32< Rhonda> You are so … … no clue what you are, but you are it. definitely.
20100723 23:10:05< Hulavuta> Thank you
20100723 23:11:26< PetePorty> There are thousands of this kind of poster: http://picture.funnycorner.net/funny-pictures/5605/Sarcasm.jpg after you've red the first ten, they become so funny...
20100723 23:11:44< PetePorty> also, this is the only SfW one I could find...
20100723 23:11:58< shadowmaster> are we talking about Wesnoth?
20100723 23:12:01< Hulavuta> OOOOHHH
20100723 23:12:05< Hulavuta> Now I get it
20100723 23:12:14< Hulavuta> The picture was Suitable for Work
20100723 23:12:16< shadowmaster> or are you derailing the channel as usual?
20100723 23:12:18< PetePorty> Yes, shadowmaster, we are.
20100723 23:12:21< Hulavuta> I thought it was from a show called suitable for work
20100723 23:12:21< Hulavuta> Sorry
20100723 23:12:25< Hulavuta> I'm going to Publix now, bye
20100723 23:12:31< shadowmaster> PetePorty: stop it then.
20100723 23:12:32< PetePorty> c ya
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20100723 23:12:42< PetePorty> talking about wesnoth?
20100723 23:13:04< PetePorty> :/
20100723 23:13:18< shadowmaster> 17:12:16 <shadowmaster> or are you derailing the channel as usual?
20100723 23:13:20< shadowmaster> 17:12:18 <PetePorty> Yes, shadowmaster, we are.
20100723 23:13:26< Rhonda> PetePorty: sarcasm is a very cheap excuse americans like to throw around as being intended when they are pointed out that they have no clue, at all.
20100723 23:13:37< PetePorty> no, about the first on.
20100723 23:13:53< PetePorty> America is a continent.
20100723 23:13:58< Tomsik_> sacrasm is hell cheap
20100723 23:14:00< Tomsik_> anyone can use it
20100723 23:14:05< PetePorty> I love sarcasm
20100723 23:14:10< PetePorty> it beats killing people
20100723 23:14:33< Tomsik_> sacrasm is a temporary solution in this case
20100723 23:14:52< shadowmaster> I wonder if I need to repeat myself.
20100723 23:15:02< PetePorty> meh, most my sentences contain at least a little sarcasm, but I guess it's not in purpose...
20100723 23:15:08 * PetePorty shuts up
20100723 23:16:19< Tomsik_> I have yet to experience an on-topic talk here.
20100723 23:16:46< shadowmaster> then you haven't been paying attention.
20100723 23:17:23< shadowmaster> we were talking about alliances systems and Wesnoth earlier, for example.
20100723 23:18:02< PetePorty> What would you do if you are undead, have 153 gold, and a leader with 10 hp, fighting against drakes, with a handfull of units, and 26 gold?
20100723 23:18:17< PetePorty> What would you recriut?
20100723 23:18:42< PetePorty> he has 2 clashers, 2 burners, a skirmisher, 2 augurs and a fighter
20100723 23:19:14< PetePorty> now if anyone replys, we can have Tomsik's first Wesnoth discussion.
20100723 23:19:32< PetePorty> replies*
20100723 23:19:38< PetePorty> anones?
20100723 23:19:43< PetePorty> awww...
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20100723 23:46:12< spasticteapot> Is anyone here familiar with the included wesnoth campaigns?
20100723 23:46:23< spasticteapot> I've been playing a few, and the difficulty level seems all over the map.
20100723 23:46:34< zookeeper> well, which ones and in what way?
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20100723 23:47:14< spasticteapot> Hold on, lemme get the name
20100723 23:47:44< zookeeper> i take it that you mean the difficulty varies too much within a single campaign
20100723 23:47:58< spasticteapot> The Hammer of Thursagan and the Eastern Invasion.
20100723 23:48:06< elvish_sovereign> ahh.
20100723 23:48:27< elvish_sovereign> What are you having trouble on?
20100723 23:48:28< spasticteapot> The former wasn't too bad...until I hit a level where it's me against three armies of level 2 units, and all the villages are full of bandits.
20100723 23:48:40< elvish_sovereign> oh, Invaders
20100723 23:48:52< zookeeper> i've never played THoT, and i'm guessing your problem with EI is...evacuation?
20100723 23:48:59< zookeeper> that's the scenario everyone always complains about ;)
20100723 23:49:05< spasticteapot> The latter has some goofy level design, including one where I have three units in a little valley full of ogres who promptly turn me to toe jam.
20100723 23:49:12< spasticteapot> El?
20100723 23:49:16< spasticteapot> Oh. 
20100723 23:49:18< PetePorty> spasticteapot, what difficulty level are you playing in?
20100723 23:49:22< spasticteapot> Normal.
20100723 23:49:30< PetePorty> There's the problem.
20100723 23:49:35< spasticteapot> Hurr hurr hurr.
20100723 23:49:43< elvish_sovereign> Here's a tip for THoT "Invaders"
20100723 23:49:51< spasticteapot> All missions up to this one have been cake - especially in THoT.
20100723 23:49:52< elvish_sovereign> Don't rush the orcs
20100723 23:50:05< spasticteapot> elvish_sovereign: Tried that.
20100723 23:50:12< elvish_sovereign> Collect villages and fight off the bandits
20100723 23:50:19< elvish_sovereign> you should have plenty of level two units by now
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20100723 23:50:39< elvish_sovereign> By the time the orcs are finished with the bandits, they should be in complete disarray
20100723 23:50:44< spasticteapot> The problem with that approach is that they just surround the villages, and any dwarf not in a village has a 70% chance of being hit.
20100723 23:50:48< PetePorty> spasticteapot: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/TheHammerOfThursagan#Invaders
20100723 23:50:51< Hulavuta> I'm back
20100723 23:50:52< Hulavuta> Hi
20100723 23:50:58< PetePorty> WB, Hula
20100723 23:51:02< zookeeper> spasticteapot, EI has a lot of goofy level design, yes. it's a _really_ old campaign and not well maintained. there's a lot of things i want to completely redesign in it, but haven't gotten around to doing yet.
20100723 23:51:03< elvish_sovereign> *faceplam*
20100723 23:51:04< spasticteapot> And the orcs go through the bandits like a chainsaw through jell-0.
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20100723 23:51:08< zookeeper> the ogre scenario is one of them
20100723 23:51:23< elvish_sovereign> spasticteapot: stick the hills
20100723 23:51:26< Hulavuta> I remember the Ogre scenario
20100723 23:51:31< elvish_sovereign> stick to the hills*
20100723 23:51:43< spasticteapot> elvish_sovereign: Tried that too. It *almost* worked.
20100723 23:51:49< spasticteapot> One or two more tries and I might crack it.
20100723 23:52:03< spasticteapot> The point, though, is that on Normal difficulty, all levels up to this one have been easy-peasy.
20100723 23:52:03< elvish_sovereign> How many Steelclads do you have?
20100723 23:52:07< spasticteapot> Two.
20100723 23:52:11< spasticteapot> No mocking, please. 
20100723 23:52:31< PetePorty> Did you go to my link?
20100723 23:52:35< elvish_sovereign> Plopping a Lord on a villages can block the hell out of a ton of orcs
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20100723 23:53:11< spasticteapot> Huh. That might just work.
20100723 23:53:12< Hulavuta> One WML Question: Does it HAVE to be _main.cfg or can it just be main.cfg?
20100723 23:53:22< elvish_sovereign> One Dwarvish Lord on a village was enough to block the southern orcs
20100723 23:53:28< PetePorty> Oh, I just remembered this scenario...
20100723 23:53:34< elvish_sovereign> while the rest of my troops took on the middle enemy
20100723 23:53:35< PetePorty> it was actually kinda hard...
20100723 23:53:39< spasticteapot> My issue is not the mission's difficulty - my issue is that the difficulty is MUCH HIGHER than all preceeding missions.
20100723 23:53:40< elvish_sovereign> then split
20100723 23:53:58< elvish_sovereign> spasticteapot: that's why you only have 2 Steelclads
20100723 23:54:03< elvish_sovereign> Hulavuta: yes
20100723 23:54:24< Hulavuta> ....Yes to A or Yes to B?
20100723 23:54:55< PetePorty> Yes, it MUST be _...
20100723 23:54:57< Hulavuta> Ok
20100723 23:55:06< PetePorty> Idunno...
20100723 23:55:07< elvish_sovereign> spasticteapot: If you slack off in the beginning and don't level Steelclads and Pathfinders immediately
20100723 23:55:09< elvish_sovereign> you
20100723 23:55:17< elvish_sovereign> 'll run into trouble
20100723 23:55:31< spasticteapot> I do my best to level 'em, but there's honestly not that much to fight.
20100723 23:55:35< elvish_sovereign> slack off is the wrong word
20100723 23:55:42< spasticteapot> In any event, I'm not that good at this game - hence my "normal" difficulty setting.
20100723 23:56:09< spasticteapot> I found it pleasantly challenging for the other campaigns. 
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20100723 23:56:27< elvish_sovereign> By the way the scouts are probably your best unit until the last scenario
20100723 23:56:33< elvish_sovereign> and then fighters
20100723 23:56:40< PetePorty> yeah, I love scouts.
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20100723 23:56:50< elvish_sovereign> but you *must* have leveled fighters or your army has no power
20100723 23:56:56< King_Elendil> Hello fellow Wesnothians! :)
20100723 23:57:02< PetePorty> hi King_Elendil 
20100723 23:57:02< zookeeper> spasticteapot, if you feel like taking the time, then you could post on the appropriate campaign feedback thread on the forums
20100723 23:57:10< Hulavuta> Hi King_Elendil
20100723 23:57:43< Gambit> Blogging for Dummies
20100723 23:57:44< Gambit> hmmm
20100723 23:57:46< zookeeper> spasticteapot, that's the best way to make sure it's not forgotten
20100723 23:57:53< PetePorty> I insist, my link is good.
20100723 23:58:03< spasticteapot> I might do so. :)
20100723 23:58:03< elvish_sovereign> Yes
20100723 23:58:04< PetePorty> Gambit, I commented on your blog.
20100723 23:58:18< Gambit> hmmm
20100723 23:58:45< elvish_sovereign> Gambit: btw I intend to write a blog post about BG in the near future
20100723 23:59:25< Gambit> PetePorty: And just where is this comment?
20100723 23:59:27< Gambit> elvish_sovereign: Cool
20100723 23:59:42< PetePorty> Also, Gambit, you need to help me fight against SpA new minecraft server software
20100723 23:59:45< PetePorty> anime, Gamb
20100723 23:59:55< PetePorty> naruto... ew.
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