--- Log opened Mon Jul 26 00:00:37 2010
20100726 00:01:02< shadowm_laptop> ahhh. "uniformed". I get it now.
20100726 00:01:20< shadowm_laptop> artisticdude.
20100726 00:01:26< shadowm_laptop> artisticdude, where are you?
20100726 00:01:49< elvish_sovereign> oh dude.
20100726 00:01:54< elvish_sovereign> did I miss artisticdude?
20100726 00:05:05< shadowm_laptop> Hulavuta: why not get a blog for your rants, btw?
20100726 00:05:18< elvish_sovereign> cool, cool
20100726 00:05:38 * shadowm_laptop prepares for the usual "wut" response
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20100726 00:06:44< Hulavuta> I wasn't going to say "wut"
20100726 00:06:52< Hulavuta> I only say that when I'm confused, which I'm not
20100726 00:06:57< Hulavuta> So,
20100726 00:06:59< Hulavuta> why?
20100726 00:07:14< Hulavuta> Is it against the rules?
20100726 00:08:11< elvish_sovereign> No, it just might be better for rants and the such
20100726 00:08:13< elvish_sovereign> IMO
20100726 00:08:22< elvish_sovereign> a better format, that is
20100726 00:08:57< Hulavuta> Some guy is trolling me because of my rants...
20100726 00:09:06< Hulavuta> It's not that the criticism isn't valid
20100726 00:09:11< elvish_sovereign> Hm?
20100726 00:09:12< Hulavuta> It's because the guy is basically being a prick about it
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20100726 00:12:15< Hulavuta> shadowmaster: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=29834&p=445381#p445381 would this count as trolling?
20100726 00:17:44< shadowm_laptop> the first line looks like just a preemptive response
20100726 00:18:03< shadowm_laptop> the second paragraph causes me tl;dr.
20100726 00:18:15< shadowm_laptop> the third paragraph is, uhhhh.
20100726 00:18:31< shadowm_laptop> the fourth paragraph is borderline trolling, so don't feed him.
20100726 00:19:54< Hulavuta> meh
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20100726 00:22:34< elvish_sovereign> maybe it's because he's mad about this?
20100726 00:22:35< elvish_sovereign> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=445052#p445052
20100726 00:22:39< elvish_sovereign> dunno though
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20100726 00:23:51< Hulavuta> That has nothing to do with me though. I doubt anybody's immature enough to take something out on me because of something else
20100726 00:24:36< elvish_sovereign> who knows
20100726 00:24:49< shadowmaster> Hulavuta: youhaven't been on the Internet for enough time then.
20100726 00:25:06< shadowmaster> everything (and I mean EVERYTHING) can happen in the Internet
20100726 00:25:13< shadowmaster> (yes, even that)
20100726 00:25:25< shadowmaster> (that too!)
20100726 00:25:50< Hulavuta> I thought I've been on Wesnoth forums long enough for someone to not be that immature
20100726 00:29:12< elvish_sovereign> What shadowmaster said
20100726 00:31:12< shadowmaster> plus Wesnoth isn't all of the Internet.
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20100726 00:51:20< Hulavuta> There, I responded to it
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20100726 01:05:34< Hulavuta> e_s-iOS: art thou there?
20100726 01:05:44< e_s-iOS> Yes.
20100726 01:06:04< Hulavuta> e_s-iOS: ping
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20100726 01:06:19< e_s-iOS> Huh?
20100726 01:06:39< Hulavuta> Hmm, 15 seconds
20100726 01:06:53< Hulavuta> ping
20100726 01:07:00< e_s-iOS> Huh?
20100726 01:07:05< e_s-iOS> What's up?
20100726 01:07:06< Hulavuta> Hmm, 7 seconds
20100726 01:07:09< Hulavuta> Anyway,
20100726 01:07:12< Hulavuta> I replied to Moribund
20100726 01:07:24< e_s-iOS> Oh
20100726 01:07:52< Hulavuta> whacha mean "Oh"?
20100726 01:08:04< e_s-iOS> Oh.
20100726 01:08:17< Hulavuta> wut
20100726 01:08:26< e_s-iOS> Hulavuta: http://wordpress.com
20100726 01:08:39< Hulavuta> wut
20100726 01:08:40< e_s-iOS> Hulavuta: http://blogger.com
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20100726 01:10:10< Hulavuta> I know where to get a blog
20100726 01:10:15< Hulavuta> I actually have a blog I've never used
20100726 01:11:05< e_s-iOS> http://hu
20100726 01:11:10< e_s-iOS> Wait.
20100726 01:11:28< e_s-iOS> http://hulavuvuzeta.wordpress.com
20100726 01:11:50< e_s-iOS> Thatbshould be your URL
20100726 01:12:02< Hulavuta> Are you reading a word I've typed?
20100726 01:12:38< e_s-iOS> Yes.
20100726 01:13:29< Hulavuta> So...
20100726 01:14:21< shadowmaster> hulavuvuzela?
20100726 01:14:26< shadowmaster> e_s-iOS: ^
20100726 01:14:50< e_s-iOS> There was a joke about his name being 
20100726 01:14:56< e_s-iOS> Hulavutavuvuzela
20100726 01:15:06< e_s-iOS> Just jumbled some syllables 
20100726 01:15:08< shadowmaster> it was hulavuvuzela
20100726 01:15:08< e_s-iOS> xD
20100726 01:15:34< Hulavuta> what's the difference?
20100726 01:15:42< e_s-iOS> Whatevs
20100726 01:15:44< e_s-iOS> Same thing.
20100726 01:15:48< Hulavuta> It should be Hulabread
20100726 01:15:54< Hulavuta> That was my nickname on another forum
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20100726 01:17:40< Hulavuta> Ok...
20100726 01:18:05< Hulavuta> Why do you guys want me to get a blog so badly?
20100726 01:18:17< e_s-iOS> Because.
20100726 01:18:25< Hulavuta> Because of a period?
20100726 01:18:35< e_s-iOS> Just because.
20100726 01:18:46< Hulavuta> And what do you suppose I would put on my blog?
20100726 01:19:15< e_s-iOS> How would I know?
20100726 01:19:26< Hulavuta> So why would you want me to get a Blog?
20100726 01:19:35< e_s-iOS> Just because.
20100726 01:19:43< Hulavuta> ....
20100726 01:19:45< Hulavuta> No
20100726 01:20:09< e_s-iOS> Okay.
20100726 01:20:58< Hulavuta> Unless I have a good idea on what to put on it
20100726 01:21:08< e_s-iOS> R.
20100726 01:21:10< e_s-iOS> A.
20100726 01:21:13< e_s-iOS> N.
20100726 01:21:13< e_s-iOS> T.
20100726 01:21:15< e_s-iOS> S.
20100726 01:21:44< Hulavuta> I already have the topic on the forums
20100726 01:21:49< Hulavuta> Plus I'm running out of things to rant on
20100726 01:22:07< e_s-iOS> FtGJ.
20100726 01:22:08< Hulavuta> Plus, if it's not on the forums, nobody is going to see it
20100726 01:22:14< Hulavuta> wut
20100726 01:24:33< Hulavuta> e_s-iOS: whacha mean FtGJ?
20100726 01:25:17< e_s-iOS> Fossil the Great Journey
20100726 01:25:22< e_s-iOS> Looks like I gotta go
20100726 01:25:24< e_s-iOS> See ya
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20100726 01:25:53< Hulavuta> WAIT
20100726 01:25:57< Hulavuta> WHAT ABOUT IT???
20100726 01:25:59< Hulavuta> damnit....
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20100726 03:00:31< elvish_sovereign> back
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20100726 03:35:14< Hulavuta> elvish_sovereign: Still there?
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20100726 03:37:09< elvish_sovereign> Hulavuta: barely.
20100726 03:37:18< Hulavuta> Lol
20100726 03:37:33< Hulavuta> (7:24:34 PM) Hulavuta: e_s-iOS: whacha mean FtGJ?
20100726 03:37:33< Hulavuta> (7:25:18 PM) e_s-iOS: Fossil the Great Journey
20100726 03:37:33< Hulavuta> (7:25:23 PM) e_s-iOS: Looks like I gotta go
20100726 03:37:33< Hulavuta> (7:25:25 PM) e_s-iOS: See ya
20100726 03:37:33< Hulavuta> (7:25:27 PM) e_s-iOS left the room (quit: Remote host closed the connection).
20100726 03:37:33< Hulavuta> (7:25:54 PM) Hulavuta: WAIT
20100726 03:37:34< Hulavuta> (7:25:57 PM) Hulavuta: WHAT ABOUT IT???
20100726 03:37:34< Hulavuta> (7:26:00 PM) Hulavuta: damnit....
20100726 03:37:44< elvish_sovereign> oh dear
20100726 03:37:51< elvish_sovereign> still chasing me with that?
20100726 03:38:24< Hulavuta> Yes
20100726 03:39:38< elvish_sovereign> ;)
20100726 03:39:44< elvish_sovereign> It's as I said.
20100726 03:39:50< elvish_sovereign> Blog about FtGJ
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20100726 03:40:13< Hulavuta> What would I say about it?
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20100726 03:48:34< elvish_sovereign> Hulavuta: Up to you.
20100726 03:51:28< Hulavuta> meh
20100726 03:51:29< Hulavuta> nah
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20100726 04:20:28< King_Elendil> hello, does anyone know where I could find a sprite foran elk?
20100726 04:21:24< King_Elendil> *for an
20100726 04:22:12< Hulavuta> Elk? like the animal?
20100726 04:23:23< VurtualRuler98> ASCII makes everything better, just use a dark brown E, and problem solved. :D
20100726 04:23:52< Espreon> Nope.
20100726 04:24:28< King_Elendil> hula, yes the animal
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20100726 04:26:47< Hulavuta> Not a clue
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20100726 05:06:00< Hulavuta> Anybody up for MP?
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20100726 05:12:27< Hulavuta> Remember Mad Libs?
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20100726 05:24:40< Hulavuta> King_Elendil: Up for MP?
20100726 05:26:08< King_Elendil> sorry, but I'm coding atm :(
20100726 05:26:14< Hulavuta> ok
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20100726 09:23:17< dougmencken> shadowmaster: not too long; about 2 mintes for ./configure, 3 hours for make, and 5 minutes for make install; 400 MHz machines are fast!
20100726 09:23:35< dougmencken> I built 1.8.3! time to play
20100726 09:24:45< shadowmaster> hm, good that you got it working :)
20100726 09:25:05 * shadowmaster . o O (and I thought 45 minutes was slow...)
20100726 09:25:15< dougmencken> shadowmaster: any changes in gameplay, units, etc. from 1.6.5?
20100726 09:25:32< dougmencken> shadowmaster: not really, to build GCC it tooks ~18 hours
20100726 09:26:03< shadowmaster> there are a lot of changes in 1.8 compared to 1.6
20100726 09:26:18< shadowmaster> http://www.wesnoth.org/start/1.8/
20100726 09:26:28< dougmencken> shadowmaster: oh, so it's "another" game then? opening that page
20100726 09:27:10 * shadowmaster goes to sleep!
20100726 09:27:56 * dougmencken just woke up!
20100726 09:28:30< dougmencken> well, thanks for help; see you later
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20100726 15:45:00< Hulavuta> hi
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20100726 16:39:08 * Chris7mas anybody on for a ladder match?
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20100726 18:11:07< Hulavuta> Slow day today
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20100726 18:26:11< Gambit> Really it's going rather quickly
20100726 18:26:33< Gambit> I've been playing wesnoth all day
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20100726 19:06:53< King_Elendil> would  "{MOVE_UNIT id=Mirrok x4 y5}" work?
20100726 19:07:56< King_Elendil> zookeeper? ^
20100726 19:09:06< shadowmaster> no
20100726 19:09:22< shadowmaster> {MOVE_UNIT id=Mirrok 4 5}
20100726 19:10:57< King_Elendil> thanks ;)
20100726 19:11:55< thespaceinvader> on a similar note, can anyone suggest why I can't make the offset work on this attack anim?
20100726 19:12:19< thespaceinvader> alternatively, I could just spell offset correctly when coding >.<
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20100726 19:55:08< Gambit> One more needed for a game of BG
20100726 19:55:12< Gambit> Any takers?
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20100726 20:03:39< e_s-iOS> Hi.
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20100726 20:05:47< e_s-iOS> Hm.
20100726 20:05:58< e_s-iOS> Meseems I have to disconnect for a sec.
20100726 20:06:03< e_s-iOS> Brb.
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20100726 20:50:22< Hulavuta> I just got haircut
20100726 20:50:42 * Unnheulu really cares
20100726 20:52:38< Unnheulu> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-10740817
20100726 20:54:22< Blarumyrran> "supports word processing" sounds funny
20100726 20:57:10< Blarumyrran> as "web browsing" without being able to enter words, that is only by clicking things, would be pretty degenerate
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20100726 20:57:51< Unnheulu> e_s-iOS, India is selling a tablet, a little cheaper than your one
20100726 20:57:59< e_s-iOS> Cool.
20100726 20:58:07< e_s-iOS> Oh, hiah.
20100726 20:58:53< e_s-iOS> Unnheulu: ^
20100726 20:59:00< Unnheulu> Yours was...$499, there one is...$35
20100726 20:59:03< Unnheulu> Oh, ihah
20100726 20:59:11< e_s-iOS> iHah?
20100726 20:59:12< e_s-iOS> Lol
20100726 20:59:19< e_s-iOS> o.O
20100726 20:59:25< Unnheulu> :)
20100726 20:59:26< Unnheulu> Hiah
20100726 20:59:56< Blarumyrran> e_s-iOS, and it supports word processing. Yours might not!
20100726 21:00:04< elias> and the $35 one probably isn't all locked in and has no problems with GPL software
20100726 21:00:08< e_s-iOS> Might not, right.
20100726 21:00:16< e_s-iOS> Hm.
20100726 21:00:19< Unnheulu> elias, indeed, its Linux
20100726 21:00:47< e_s-iOS> Blarumyrran: There is a text editor in this thing.
20100726 21:00:56< e_s-iOS> Not a fancy one, but yeah.
20100726 21:01:13< e_s-iOS> Pages comes at $5 IIRC
20100726 21:01:28< e_s-iOS> Notes is free.
20100726 21:02:07< Blarumyrran> ... but you can't enter words into the web browser?
20100726 21:02:08< elias> pages is 8€ here
20100726 21:02:22< e_s-iOS> Blarumyrran: What?
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20100726 21:03:22< Unnheulu> If its $5, then I guess its £2.99
20100726 21:04:06< e_s-iOS> Anyhow
20100726 21:04:21< e_s-iOS> I think this supports my needs better than a mini-computer
20100726 21:04:25< e_s-iOS> With a touch screen
20100726 21:04:39< e_s-iOS> Although Linux is pretty awesome.
20100726 21:05:20< e_s-iOS> s/needs/wants/
20100726 21:05:22< e_s-iOS> xD
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20100726 21:24:12< e_s-iOS> -_- colloquy
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20100726 22:18:59< Hulavuta> hi
20100726 22:19:18< Valkier> Yo
20100726 22:19:50< Hulavuta> Hi Valkier
20100726 22:20:14< Hulavuta> So, tell me about your latest film project?
20100726 22:22:10< Valkier> Well I had to get naked.
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20100726 22:22:18< Valkier> No hamster was spared.
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20100726 22:22:42< Valkier> At one point one of the crew lit themselves on fire n an attempt to escape from the horror that was our film.
20100726 22:22:57< Hulavuta> Couldn't they just quit?
20100726 22:22:59< Valkier> We doused him before he lost much more than an eyebrow however, and was put in to the cast as a result.
20100726 22:23:22< Hulavuta> Ah, I see. No CGI? Just real explosions, real death and real monsters?
20100726 22:23:29< Valkier> Suffice to say, the scene with the pitching wedge and the moose has a much larger pitching wedge than previously scripted.
20100726 22:23:54< Hulavuta> When can we expect the movie to hit theaters?
20100726 22:24:19< Valkier> Never. The CIA thinks we're exposing far too many secrets. Straight to DvD for us.
20100726 22:24:50< Hulavuta> Cool. And when is the expected release date?
20100726 22:25:01< Valkier> Next year some time.
20100726 22:25:18< Hulavuta> And what is the film called?
20100726 22:25:20< Valkier> Depends on if we can get the Norweigens to cooperate.
20100726 22:25:39< Valkier> "Fuzzy Unbelievably Cute Kittens"
20100726 22:25:45< Hulavuta> phenomenal
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20100726 22:26:03< Valkier> Since the title is too long for a DvD cover, we'll be shortening it to F.U.C.K
20100726 22:26:18< Hulavuta> All right everybody, that's it for our show today. And keep your eyes out for "F.U.C.K." going Direct to DVD next yaer
20100726 22:26:20< Hulavuta> *year
20100726 22:26:34< Valkier> Peace yall. I'm outtie.
20100726 22:26:49< Hulavuta> *cue theme jingle
20100726 22:34:26< Blarumyrran> speaking of which
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20100726 22:34:40< Blarumyrran> Everybody reading this sentence should watch Robogeisha.
20100726 22:35:58< noy> umm... no
20100726 22:36:07< Valkier> I'm so glad I can't read.
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20100726 22:37:14< Unnheulu> I'm glad it's just should
20100726 22:37:17< Hulavuta> Valkier: I was gonna say that
20100726 22:38:25< Blarumyrran> It is Ninja Terminator for the 21st century, a must see.
20100726 22:38:54< Valkier> If happy fun ball begins to smoke, seek shelter.
20100726 22:38:59< Valkier> Do not taunt happy fun ball.
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20100726 22:58:47< elvish_sovereign> what's wrong with my internet?
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20100726 23:01:39< dougmencken> oh no, guys, oh no! 3,5 hours playing 8pl map (4 teams); 3 players left + 1 ai; other player bring his leader to near-me crushed base having ~90 houses and +80 income; ...
20100726 23:01:56< dougmencken> i was almost killed him; he was hiding by other units ; ... and then:
20100726 23:02:06< dougmencken> [12]+  Segmentation fault      wesnoth > /dev/null 2>&1
20100726 23:02:18< dougmencken> cool, isn't it?
20100726 23:04:14< dougmencken> I want to see that replay
20100726 23:04:19< dougmencken> (at least)
20100726 23:06:06< dougmencken> also, a question: can I (and if I can, how to) move/copy campaign completions from 1.6 to 1.8
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20100726 23:08:22< dougmencken> as for this game, all I have is "Random_map-Auto-Save18.gz" to "Random_map-Auto-Save27.gz" gzipped files
20100726 23:08:40< dougmencken> no replay :)
20100726 23:09:24< elvish_sovereign> dougmencken: for moving 1.6 -> 1.8
20100726 23:09:32< elvish_sovereign> use wmlint
20100726 23:09:39< dougmencken> wm what?
20100726 23:09:49< dougmencken> okay, going to google
20100726 23:09:50< elvish_sovereign> s/wmlint/wmllint/
20100726 23:09:58< elvish_sovereign> sorry
20100726 23:10:04< elvish_sovereign> wmllint*
20100726 23:10:08< elvish_sovereign> it's in 
20100726 23:10:10< Blarumyrran> dougmencken, saves are replays
20100726 23:10:12< dougmencken> both means nothing for me, sorry
20100726 23:10:31< elvish_sovereign> Contents/Resources/data/tools
20100726 23:10:35< Blarumyrran> If you load it as a save, the previous turns are simply not shown
20100726 23:10:46< elvish_sovereign> Blarumyrran: right
20100726 23:10:46< dougmencken> Blarumyrran: so I can open this w/o going to multiplayer? also, is it true that all games are stored on some server?
20100726 23:10:54< elvish_sovereign> Yes.
20100726 23:11:08< dougmencken> elvish_sovereign: how to find our game?
20100726 23:11:21< dougmencken> Douggie, StarWarrior and others
20100726 23:11:38< elvish_sovereign> dougmencken: is this for 1vs1?
20100726 23:11:42< elvish_sovereign> oh wait
20100726 23:11:52< elvish_sovereign> http://replays.wesnoth.org
20100726 23:11:57< dougmencken> elvish_sovereign: it was named 8 players (4 teams) or such
20100726 23:12:00< elvish_sovereign> and for wmllint
20100726 23:12:00< dougmencken> okay
20100726 23:12:54< elvish_sovereign> one sec
20100726 23:13:40< elvish_sovereign> http://forums.wesnoth.org/search.php?keywords=wmllint&terms=all&author=&fid[]=6&fid[]=5&fid[]=4&fid[]=3&fid[]=17&fid[]=22&fid[]=31&fid[]=9&fid[]=23&fid[]=14&fid[]=32&fid[]=21&fid[]=19&fid[]=15&fid[]=8&fid[]=10&fid[]=12&fid[]=7&fid[]=2&fid[]=18&fid[]=13&fid[]=11&fid[]=36&sc=1&sf=titleonly&sk=t&sd=d&sr=topics&st=0&ch=300&t=0&submit=Search
20100726 23:13:40< dougmencken> hell, browser segfaulted too
20100726 23:13:58< elvish_sovereign> lots of tutorials there
20100726 23:14:09< dougmencken> ^^^^^^ what's it? web link?
20100726 23:14:15< dougmencken> &fid[]
20100726 23:14:16< elvish_sovereign> yes
20100726 23:14:33< elvish_sovereign> it'll take you to the forums
20100726 23:14:58< dougmencken> forums and mail lists are much slower than "real-time" irc :)
20100726 23:15:02< Blarumyrran> You're often not allowed to search if you're not logged in
20100726 23:15:10< elvish_sovereign> oh.
20100726 23:15:14< elvish_sovereign> then
20100726 23:15:34< elvish_sovereign> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=30795
20100726 23:15:38< elvish_sovereign> first on that list
20100726 23:16:36< dougmencken> my browser is crazy; time to finish 7-week uptime, I think, and reboot
20100726 23:17:14< dougmencken> 	Random_map_Turn_27_(14771).gz	26-Jul-2010 22:44 	 80K	era: era_default players: Douggie, StarWarrior, sethguy, nelson, ai, ai, ai, ai << my game!
20100726 23:17:43< dougmencken> is this a replay?
20100726 23:18:04< dougmencken> so I doenload this and place in 'saves' directory to load?
20100726 23:18:17< Hulavuta> Yes
20100726 23:18:19< elvish_sovereign> yes
20100726 23:18:25< Hulavuta> inb4e_s
20100726 23:18:35< elvish_sovereign> -_-
20100726 23:18:40< Hulavuta> :-D
20100726 23:18:52< dougmencken> okay, thanks
20100726 23:19:05< Hulavuta> You're welcome
20100726 23:19:10< dougmencken> just curious: why do you save all this?
20100726 23:19:11< Blarumyrran> <dougmencken> as for this game, all I have is "Random_map-Auto-Save18.gz" to "Random_map-Auto-Save27.gz" gzipped files
20100726 23:19:29< Blarumyrran> Is it perhaps the same thing as "Random_map-Auto-Save27.gz"?
20100726 23:19:34< Hulavuta> dougmencken: because nobody wants to let go of the past, 
20100726 23:19:51< Hulavuta> Also so people could provide replays for bug testing
20100726 23:19:52< Hulavuta> etc
20100726 23:21:07< dougmencken> Hulavuta: mine finished with segfault; please examine it; it was really good game
20100726 23:21:23< Hulavuta> ok..
20100726 23:22:07< Hulavuta> They need to have a replay player so I can watch replays without downloading it, putting it in the folder and opening wesnoth
20100726 23:22:12< dougmencken> Wesnoth is great; I like it more than HoMM3; thank all devs for this game!
20100726 23:24:13< dougmencken> there's also "save_index.gz" file in ~/.wesnoth1.8 directory; what's it? can I watch replay w/o need to modify this file according to all savegames?
20100726 23:25:26< dougmencken> okay, I'll just try then :)
20100726 23:25:37< dougmencken> see you later
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