--- Log opened Thu Jul 29 00:00:16 2010
20100729 00:01:06< Hulavuta> That rockmen topic still makes me lol
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20100729 00:14:52< Gambit> Where's Vurtual when you need him?
20100729 00:15:26< Gambit> And no Peter either...
20100729 00:17:01< Blarumyrran> I can't imagine what would you ever need them for
20100729 00:17:14< shadowmaster> for trolling.
20100729 00:17:25< Gambit> No. because they play minecraft.
20100729 00:17:26< shadowmaster> which we really don't want around here, thank you very much,
20100729 00:17:34< Gambit> And I'm pretty sure either one or both of them plays TF2
20100729 00:17:40< shadowmaster> this is wesnoth, not minecraft.
20100729 00:17:45< Gambit> So they'd be interested in this minecraft themed TF2 map
20100729 00:18:29 * Gambit doesn't go hunting for people to troll :\\
20100729 00:18:38< Gambit> Hey shadowmaster.
20100729 00:18:42< Gambit> Perl sucks.
20100729 00:18:55< shadowmaster> Gambit: your face sucks.
20100729 00:19:07< shadowmaster> troll.
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20100729 00:32:02< PetePorty> Hi guys
20100729 00:56:41< Hulavuta> Hi
20100729 00:56:45< Hulavuta> Damn, that was late
20100729 00:58:23< PetePorty> kinda...
20100729 00:58:27< PetePorty> but still thanks.
20100729 01:01:05< Hulavuta> So, you going to IB still?
20100729 01:01:36< PetePorty> Yes.
20100729 01:01:37< shadowmaster> I recently read some site's IRC rules.
20100729 01:02:00< PetePorty> Actually, today I hhanded in my inscription thing...
20100729 01:02:23< shadowmaster> one of the items was something to the effect of "don't say hi or hello or suchlike; the IRC server already tells us that you've joined and we all get notified about it; you don't need to point it out again, it's redundant"
20100729 01:02:38< Hulavuta> Our server is an exception though
20100729 01:02:42< shadowmaster> I agree with that in most cases as a guideline.
20100729 01:02:53< shadowmaster> Hulavuta: this is not our server.
20100729 01:03:03< Hulavuta> ech, I mean the room
20100729 01:03:08< shadowmaster> however, this is my- I mean, our channel.
20100729 01:03:13< PetePorty> Huh...
20100729 01:03:17< Blarumyrran> You can say it is our server
20100729 01:03:17< PetePorty> Well, I am sorry...
20100729 01:03:27< Blarumyrran> Like I can say my country is my country
20100729 01:03:28< PetePorty> I'm just used to saying hi...
20100729 01:03:29< shadowmaster> PetePorty: I didn't say you were doing something wrong.
20100729 01:03:36< PetePorty> Oh?
20100729 01:03:38< Hulavuta> There are always joining and leaving messages everywhere, it's hard to know if anyone is really here or not
20100729 01:03:47< shadowmaster> it was just some "by the way" note ;)
20100729 01:03:59< Hulavuta> Some people are on the list, and if you highlight them 50 times they don't notice
20100729 01:04:19< Hulavuta> Or they're ignoring you
20100729 01:04:20< Blarumyrran> Hulavuta, if you've just joined you probably will
20100729 01:04:52< Hulavuta> Meh, "Hi" is a greeting, not a way of telling people you're here
20100729 01:05:00< Hulavuta> If you see a guy coming, and he says "Hi'
20100729 01:05:11< Hulavuta> Do you say: "I saw you coming, you don't have to tell me"
20100729 01:06:17< shadowmaster> Hulavuta: you *think* I'd not notice if you highlighted me 50 times? :P (just kidding)
20100729 01:06:18< PetePorty> lol
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20100729 01:06:23< shadowmaster> http://shadowm.rewound.net/hilight.png
20100729 01:06:45< Blarumyrran> Oh, I have an image for that
20100729 01:06:51< Hulavuta> lol
20100729 01:06:54< PetePorty> Lol
20100729 01:07:05< Gambit> shadowmaster: That's awesome.
20100729 01:07:15< Gambit> I must shake this elynia's hand.
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20100729 01:07:44< Gambit> (you know, if she ever left your private IRC server...)
20100729 01:07:45< shadowmaster> she'd zap you.
20100729 01:08:02< shadowmaster> and she's on freendoe, actually
20100729 01:08:06< shadowmaster> freenode
20100729 01:08:14< Hulavuta> Anyway, basically "Hi" is a greeting and not a way of telling people you're there
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20100729 01:08:23< Blarumyrran> http://imagebin.org/107199
20100729 01:08:47< Hulavuta> Type in "The Quick Brown Fox Jumps Over the Lazy Dog" with both Shift keys pressed
20100729 01:08:49< Blarumyrran> From a british propaganda poser
20100729 01:08:54< Blarumyrran> poster*
20100729 01:11:02< Gambit> shadowmaster: Well obviosuly. She private messaged you.
20100729 01:11:07< Gambit> But AFAIK she's in no public channels.
20100729 01:13:55< shadowmaster> that doesn't mean she can't be connected to the network
20100729 01:14:13< shadowmaster> umcreg is also connected and isn't in any public channel
20100729 01:14:52< Hulavuta> "There, we took care of all the monsters."
20100729 01:14:58< Hulavuta> "What about the planet eating guy?"
20100729 01:14:58< shadowmaster> (and won't talk to anyone who doesn't match an A: or H:line hostmask and svaname)
20100729 01:15:05< Hulavuta> "Doesn't matter, what are you, a planet?"
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20100729 01:21:26< shadowmaster> the audience is not amused.
20100729 01:21:54< PetePorty> Do I count as audience?
20100729 01:21:57< Hulavuta> :'(
20100729 01:22:51< Hulavuta> PetePorty: It depends,
20100729 01:22:55< Hulavuta> Were you amused?
20100729 01:23:02< PetePorty> A little bit...
20100729 01:23:06< Hulavuta> Then you're not
20100729 01:23:08< Aethaeryn> yeah
20100729 01:23:24< Aethaeryn> PetePorty: If the audience is not amused and you are amused, then you are not the audience.
20100729 01:23:33< Hulavuta> I just said that
20100729 01:23:35< PetePorty> Ok...
20100729 01:24:53< shadowmaster> Aethaeryn: proudly messing with people's minds since 2006, using the Power of Logic.
20100729 01:25:08< shadowmaster> hm, 2007.
20100729 01:25:15< shadowmaster> Aethaeryn: I thought you were from around my time, my bad
20100729 01:25:32< Hulavuta> But I said it first
20100729 01:25:53< Appleman1234> wow
20100729 01:25:55< Aethaeryn> Hulavuta: You worded it in normal person words.
20100729 01:26:00< Aethaeryn> Hulavuta: I worded it in logic.
20100729 01:26:33< Hulavuta> Oh yeah
20100729 01:26:33< Blarumyrran> Flawed logic
20100729 01:26:48< Hulavuta> I forgot about the If...Then format
20100729 01:27:13< Blarumyrran> "A group of people are amused" and "A person is amused" are different predicates, and the relations between them aren't obvious
20100729 01:27:58< Blarumyrran> Is a group of people amused if all its members are amused, or if it has at least one member and all its members are abused, or if most of its members are abused?
20100729 01:28:14< PetePorty> Aethaeryn, Actually, shadowmaster's statement might be wrong, and since I am amused and I am audience, the audience *is* in fact, amused, and his previous statement is jus a phalacy (or however it's written)
20100729 01:28:29< PetePorty> abuse?
20100729 01:28:38< Blarumyrran> amused*
20100729 01:28:39< PetePorty> I thought we were talking about being amused...
20100729 01:28:41< PetePorty> oh.
20100729 01:28:42< shadowmaster> PetePorty: no, you are part of the comedic trio.
20100729 01:28:47< Blarumyrran> Yeah, misspelt
20100729 01:28:50< PetePorty> Ok...
20100729 01:28:53< Hulavuta> This place is messed up
20100729 01:28:53< PetePorty> :/
20100729 01:28:58< PetePorty> ;_;
20100729 01:29:04< Aethaeryn> Blarumyrran: I was taking it as... (∀x)(¬Ax)
20100729 01:29:17< Aethaeryn> Which in fact means, for all of x, they have the trait of not A (not being amused).
20100729 01:29:39< Aethaeryn> which means any individual will also have the trait of not A
20100729 01:29:45< Blarumyrran> You with your stupid snobbery again
20100729 01:29:47< Blarumyrran> "in fact"
20100729 01:29:51< Appleman1234> ?
20100729 01:30:03< Blarumyrran> That was wholly unnecessary, and leaves a bad impression of you
20100729 01:30:22< Aethaeryn> ok Mr. Hawk.
20100729 01:30:32< PetePorty> shadowmaster, on a more important topic; don't I get a nice pretty forum title saying either 'Translator' or 'Forum Idiot'?
20100729 01:30:33< Aethaeryn> PetePorty: depends on how you define audience.
20100729 01:30:33< Blarumyrran> :)
20100729 01:30:46< Aethaeryn> PetePorty: By shadowmaster's definition you're not part of the audience since you were amused. You might have a different definition.
20100729 01:30:55< shadowmaster> PetePorty: why?
20100729 01:31:02< PetePorty> ahhh...
20100729 01:31:09< shadowmaster> are you translator?
20100729 01:31:11< PetePorty> shadowmaster, well, since I'm a translator now...
20100729 01:31:13< PetePorty> yes.
20100729 01:31:17< Blarumyrran> Aethaeryn, and your "logic"
20100729 01:31:22< shadowmaster> have you been approved by the translation maintainer?
20100729 01:31:24< Blarumyrran> You don't say what x is
20100729 01:31:28< PetePorty> Yes.
20100729 01:31:34< PetePorty> and I sent some of my work to him
20100729 01:31:41< PetePorty> he said he'd add me to the credits
20100729 01:31:49< PetePorty> and asked how would I want to appear.
20100729 01:31:53< Aethaeryn> Blarumyrran: Obviously x is everything in the domain of this argument... thus the audience.
20100729 01:31:54< PetePorty> =D
20100729 01:31:56< shadowmaster> PetePorty: I'll wait to see that occur then.
20100729 01:32:03< PetePorty> ok.
20100729 01:32:22< PetePorty> But... isn't that when the next release comes?
20100729 01:32:22< Aethaeryn> Blarumyrran: by these standards, PetePorty isn't taken into account at all.
20100729 01:32:28< Aethaeryn> Since he's not part of the audience
20100729 01:32:28< shadowmaster> PetePorty: however, given your conduct on IRC, I'd dare to say that you don't qualify for a forum title or group membership in the forums.
20100729 01:32:41< PetePorty> :'(
20100729 01:32:59< shadowmaster> PetePorty: and no, I don't need to wait for the next release. I just watch the changes in SVN and in the wiki.
20100729 01:33:09< PetePorty> ok...
20100729 01:33:12< Appleman1234> do we need a #wesnoth-banter, or is #wesnoth just busy at present ?
20100729 01:33:43< Aethaeryn> Appleman1234: the problem is that if you remove all the off-topicness #wesnoth is silent.
20100729 01:33:57< Aethaeryn> All the useful stuff happen in the smaller chans or #Wesnoth-dev
20100729 01:34:08< Appleman1234> Aethaeryn, I see ...
20100729 01:34:21< elias> shadowmaster: he can change... in my main channel, there was a kid who got banned twice when he was new then a few years later he was the channel admin :)
20100729 01:34:41< shadowmaster> elias: I know that myself, but it can take some time.
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20100729 01:34:58< shadowmaster> it is also possible that he'll change if I give him the title and group
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20100729 01:35:12< elias> true
20100729 01:35:46< shadowmaster> in any case I need to see a commit and wiki update first ;)
20100729 01:35:50< Blarumyrran> Aethaeryn, it is obvious but if you're going with a pretense of formality you should be as formal & clear as you can
20100729 01:36:03< shadowmaster> (since unlike the Russian translators, the maintainer doesn't PM me on the forums to add people to the group)
20100729 01:36:26< Blarumyrran> like ∀x(¬Belongsto(x, Audience) v Isamused(x))
20100729 01:37:30< Aethaeryn> Blarumyrran: but that isn't symbolic logic anymore.
20100729 01:37:37< Blarumyrran> hum?
20100729 01:37:58< Blarumyrran> I don't know what your "symbolic logic" is then
20100729 01:38:09< GGLucas> Blarumyrran: Wouldn't that be a ⊕ ?
20100729 01:38:12< Aethaeryn> take your comp sci I-can-have-variables-as-long-as-I-want and keep it in programming ;-)
20100729 01:38:18< PetePorty> You must be *really* bored to be having this argument...
20100729 01:38:41< shadowmaster> PetePorty: nah, they are just obsessed over formal logic.
20100729 01:39:02< PetePorty> Oh... ok...
20100729 01:39:03< Blarumyrran> Aethaeryn, Belongsto is as good a symbol as B
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20100729 01:39:19< Aethaeryn> It's not as elegant because it's not as much of an abbreviation.
20100729 01:39:22< Aethaeryn> Might be okay for one line...
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20100729 01:39:26< Aethaeryn> But when you start going into dozens of lines...
20100729 01:39:38< Blarumyrran> It's elegant because you don't have to explain in prose what the predicates mean
20100729 01:39:48< Aethaeryn> I don't have to explain in prose, either.
20100729 01:39:58< Aethaeryn> for instance...
20100729 01:40:02< Aethaeryn> A = amused
20100729 01:40:04< Blarumyrran> <Aethaeryn> Which in fact means, for all of x, they have the trait of not A (not being amused).
20100729 01:40:07< shadowmaster> hm ##logic exists just like ##philosophy.
20100729 01:40:09< shadowmaster> interesting.
20100729 01:40:14< Aethaeryn> oh whoops, sorry, it's a string
20100729 01:40:16< shadowmaster> except it has less people in it
20100729 01:40:17< Aethaeryn> A = "amused"
20100729 01:40:49< Blarumyrran> ... string?
20100729 01:40:50< shadowmaster> ETA for Aethaeryn 's delayed reaction to my musings: t + 15 seconds
20100729 01:41:06< Aethaeryn> shadowmaster: Uh oh... ##logic is for symbolic and mathematical logic.
20100729 01:41:24< shadowmaster> almost
20100729 01:41:26< Aethaeryn> It's probably a constant flamewar between philosophy logic types and the math logic types, unless of course there's no philosophy logic types on Freenode (plausible)
20100729 01:41:31< shadowmaster> it was 17 seconds
20100729 01:41:52< shadowmaster> I predicted it well with an error range of ±2 seconds
20100729 01:41:53< Aethaeryn> Blarumyrran: yeah. it's not a number.
20100729 01:42:04< shadowmaster> I'll keep this in mind fpr future discussions.
20100729 01:42:07< shadowmaster> for
20100729 01:42:13< Blarumyrran> Aethaeryn, so, a predicate is a string you say?
20100729 01:42:19< Aethaeryn> in python A = 5 and A = "amused" are different.
20100729 01:42:20< Aethaeryn> :-P
20100729 01:43:13< Appleman1234> Aethaeryn, I used to be in ##philosophy and be interested in philosophical logic, but meh
20100729 01:43:46< elias> i hate logic, almost failed my bachelor exam because of it back then
20100729 01:44:26< shadowmaster> I only use ligic when it'll make me win a discussion in RL.
20100729 01:44:30< shadowmaster> logic.
20100729 01:44:38< elias> the examiner wanted me to create a list in Prolog for a full hour as only question... since apparently he had based all other questions on that o_O
20100729 01:47:43< Blarumyrran> GGLucas, no?
20100729 01:50:11< Aethaeryn> elias, shadowmaster: I want to master the art of logic so that I can tell people *precisely* what they're doing wrong online if I ever have to argue them.
20100729 01:50:25< Aethaeryn> Content and merit of the argument? Psssh. Fix your damn form first.
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20100729 01:51:18< shadowmaster> Aethaeryn: arguments online are stupid.
20100729 01:51:24< GGLucas> Blarumyrran: Yeah sorry I misread it completely :P
20100729 01:51:24< Aethaeryn> Exactly. Easy pickings.
20100729 01:51:48< shadowmaster> Aethaeryn: and if you participate on them, you aren't any better than the other participants.
20100729 01:51:52< shadowmaster> particularly if you are deliberately doing it for the lulz.
20100729 01:52:22< Aethaeryn> shadowmaster: More like for superiority. ;-)
20100729 01:52:58< shadowmaster> troll.
20100729 01:53:07< e_s-iOS> o.O
20100729 01:53:11< shadowmaster> I am disappoint.
20100729 01:53:14< Aethaeryn> shadowmaster: Trolls are useful sometimes.
20100729 01:53:17< Aethaeryn> Look at Scientology.
20100729 01:53:31< Aethaeryn> In the case of the continuous protests for the past 2 years...
20100729 01:53:38< Aethaeryn> Trolls are saving lives by trolling Scientologists.
20100729 01:53:50< shadowmaster> Aethaeryn: yes, I know.
20100729 01:53:50< Aethaeryn> Won't change a Scientologist mind, but they will prevent converts...
20100729 01:54:00< Aethaeryn> Plus, they make some really entertaining YouTubes.
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20100729 01:56:08< PetePorty> Anyone wants to play paintball era?
20100729 01:57:07< Aethaeryn> PetePorty: If anyone wants to play the paintball era, then either they will not want to not play the paintball era or the moon is made of aether.
20100729 01:57:34< PetePorty> wth?
20100729 01:57:44< Hulavuta> Logic
20100729 01:57:49< Hulavuta> kinda
20100729 01:57:58< Blarumyrran> And a problem with using words with logic is that
20100729 01:58:03< Aethaeryn> well, I used the rule of addition.
20100729 01:58:17< Aethaeryn> If something is true (and it is, since it is a tautology), then you can just add whatever the hell you want.
20100729 01:58:22< Aethaeryn> TvF still is T
20100729 01:58:22< Blarumyrran> what follows "then" might also come slightly later
20100729 01:58:50< Aethaeryn> damn it
20100729 01:58:56< Aethaeryn> no one in ##philosophy took my bait
20100729 01:59:01< shadowmaster> Aethaeryn: ...WRONG.
20100729 01:59:03< Aethaeryn> 19:48:11 < Aethaeryn> (x)[(Px ⊃ ~Qx) ∙ (Rx ⊃ ~Sx)] or (∀x)((Px → ¬Qx) ∧ (Rx → ¬Sx))
20100729 01:59:06< Aethaeryn> 19:48:15 < Aethaeryn> Which way is more correct?
20100729 01:59:23< shadowmaster> Aethaeryn: T and F is F
20100729 01:59:43< Aethaeryn> shadowmaster: right, which is why Λ is 'and' and V is 'or'.
20100729 01:59:45< shadowmaster> I reject your logic.
20100729 01:59:53< Aethaeryn> shadowmaster: You can add anything in an or.
20100729 02:00:03< shadowmaster> I REJECT YOUR LOGIC
20100729 02:00:15< shadowmaster> 19:58:17 <Aethaeryn> If something is true (and it is, since it is a tautology), then you can just add whatever the hell you want.
20100729 02:00:17< Aethaeryn> George Bush is a former president of the United States. George Bush is a former presient of the United States OR he is a janitor at a gas station.
20100729 02:00:18< shadowmaster> 19:58:22 <Aethaeryn> TvF still is T
20100729 02:00:25< shadowmaster> you didn't specify it was just for the OR operation.
20100729 02:00:26< Aethaeryn> If the first sentence is true, it still is true.
20100729 02:00:33< Aethaeryn> I said TvF
20100729 02:00:35< Aethaeryn> as in T V F
20100729 02:00:38< Aethaeryn> as in T OR F
20100729 02:00:42< shadowmaster> Aethaeryn: that was an example.
20100729 02:00:49< shadowmaster> not part of your argument.
20100729 02:01:13< Aethaeryn> well you *do* add whatever you want with addition.
20100729 02:01:17< Aethaeryn> You conjoin with conjunction.
20100729 02:01:30< Aethaeryn> A and then A V B is addition.
20100729 02:01:40< Aethaeryn> A and then A Λ B is conjunction.
20100729 02:02:15< GGLucas> Also fun is "If there's nobody who doesn't want to play, then if nobody wants to play the world will explode. " P→(¬P→Q) for any P and Q.
20100729 02:03:03< Aethaeryn> right, because you just use material implication
20100729 02:03:17< Aethaeryn> essentially the same rule.
20100729 02:03:20< Aethaeryn> :-P
20100729 02:03:26< GGLucas> Yep.
20100729 02:03:32< Aethaeryn> I <3 logic.
20100729 02:03:36< GGLucas> Aethaeryn: As do I.
20100729 02:03:56< GGLucas> Also, have some unicode. ♥
20100729 02:03:59< Aethaeryn> and I ♥ unicode
20100729 02:04:00< Aethaeryn> damn it
20100729 02:04:02< Aethaeryn> beaten
20100729 02:04:09< Aethaeryn> ninja'd
20100729 02:08:01< Aethaeryn> GGLucas: Oooh, here's a good logic trick too
20100729 02:08:23< Aethaeryn> God exists. If Dawkins is right, then God does not exist. Dawkins is right.
20100729 02:08:49< Blarumyrran> It isn't a logic trick
20100729 02:09:04< Blarumyrran> It's just a semantics trick
20100729 02:09:24< Blarumyrran> Because again "is right" is very hazy
20100729 02:09:36< Aethaeryn> ...
20100729 02:10:07< Aethaeryn> G Λ ((D -> ~G) Λ D)
20100729 02:10:14< Aethaeryn> Now it's not a semantics trick.
20100729 02:10:23< Aethaeryn> And yes, I was too lazy for unicode.
20100729 02:10:24< Blarumyrran> Now you have a bunch of letters
20100729 02:10:37< Blarumyrran> With no connection to real life
20100729 02:10:53< Aethaeryn> G = God exists
20100729 02:11:01< Aethaeryn> D = the truth value of Dawkins' arguments is 1
20100729 02:11:05< Aethaeryn> there you go
20100729 02:11:14< Blarumyrran> So...
20100729 02:11:40< Blarumyrran> when you said "Dawkins is right." you actually meant that, "Dawkins is right in that god exists"?
20100729 02:12:04< Aethaeryn> no, I mean that the implications of D being T is that G is F (~G)
20100729 02:12:57< Blarumyrran> what's the trick then
20100729 02:13:42< Blarumyrran> I thought you were relying on, "Dawkins is right" meaning that  "Dawkins is right in that god exists" the first time you use it and  "Dawkins is usually right" the second time
20100729 02:15:05< Aethaeryn> No.
20100729 02:15:10< Aethaeryn> I'm saying that both G and D are true.
20100729 02:15:25< Aethaeryn> If D is true, then G is necessarily false, since D argues NOT G.
20100729 02:15:35< Blarumyrran> ... what is your point?
20100729 02:15:39< Aethaeryn> So really, you approach the argument from two sides.
20100729 02:15:43< Aethaeryn> G Λ ((D -> ~G) Λ D)
20100729 02:15:55< Blarumyrran> A & -A
20100729 02:15:57< Aethaeryn> If G is true, then D has to be false. And if D is true then G has to be false.
20100729 02:16:00< Blarumyrran> oh my what a trick I just did
20100729 02:16:04< Aethaeryn> Right, so you get G and not G and D and not D.
20100729 02:16:13< Blarumyrran> So what's the point?
20100729 02:16:19< Blarumyrran> What's the trick about
20100729 02:16:22< Aethaeryn> Literally, every variable in the equation if there's a contradiction is both true and false.
20100729 02:16:37< Aethaeryn> Blarumyrran: http://www.xkcd.com/704/
20100729 02:16:50< Aethaeryn> As usual, a web comic explains it better.
20100729 02:17:22< Blarumyrran> Aethaeryn, again just use of language
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20100729 02:17:58< Aethaeryn> Blarumyrran: No, it's use of DEDUCTIVE LOGIC.
20100729 02:18:08< Aethaeryn> Mwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
20100729 02:18:38< Blarumyrran> as the second guy there takes "derive" in the sense of finding a correct answer to a question from among countless wrong ones, while that's obviously wrong
20100729 02:19:03< Blarumyrran> It's just language
20100729 02:22:25< Aethaeryn> ...
20100729 02:22:35< Aethaeryn> logic is independent of any language.
20100729 02:22:36< Aethaeryn> just like math.
20100729 02:22:44< Blarumyrran> That comic is not
20100729 02:22:48< Aethaeryn> ah
20100729 02:22:49< Aethaeryn> oh
20100729 02:22:54< Aethaeryn> the comic yeah
20100729 02:22:56< Aethaeryn> is a pun
20100729 02:23:00< Aethaeryn> supposed to be funny
20100729 02:25:10< Aethaeryn> omfg
20100729 02:25:13< Aethaeryn> what an abomination
20100729 02:25:19< Aethaeryn> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=446160#p446160
20100729 02:25:58< PetePorty> back
20100729 02:26:00< Aethaeryn> "doesn't think rationally"
20100729 02:26:11< Blarumyrran> Yeah
20100729 02:26:46< Blarumyrran> I've always thought of them like the kind of things that can't be bartered with
20100729 02:27:08< PetePorty> So as you suggested, guys, I left art class to take psychology...
20100729 02:27:37< Hulavuta> Good
20100729 02:27:37< Blarumyrran> Psychology is a medieval pseudoscience
20100729 02:27:44< e_s-iOS> Yayz
20100729 02:27:47< PetePorty> ...
20100729 02:28:00< PetePorty> I hope it doesn't ruin 2 years of my life...
20100729 02:28:14< Hulavuta> You know that Facebook is giving away free mousepads with any picture you want on them? 
20100729 02:28:18< Hulavuta> If you get 50 friends 
20100729 02:28:29< Hulavuta> I'm making a crapload of fake accounts and friending on of them
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20100729 02:28:34< Hulavuta> *one
20100729 02:28:42< PetePorty> ...
20100729 02:28:42< Blarumyrran> each one*
20100729 02:28:46< PetePorty> Hula, HOW!?
20100729 02:28:50< PetePorty> How do I get them
20100729 02:28:51< Hulavuta> No, I'm only friending one of them
20100729 02:28:55< Blarumyrran> Uh
20100729 02:28:56< PetePorty> I will friend you
20100729 02:29:08< Blarumyrran> How do you get 50 friends then?
20100729 02:29:16< Hulavuta> (8:28:28 PM) Hulavuta: I'm making a crapload of fake accounts
20100729 02:29:29< Hulavuta> I'm friending my fake accounts 
20100729 02:29:35< Blarumyrran> To one person
20100729 02:29:37< Hulavuta> I'm making like, 51 of them
20100729 02:29:38< Hulavuta> Yeah
20100729 02:29:43< Hulavuta> That one person is my other fake account
20100729 02:29:49< PetePorty> Hula, what do I do to get mousepad?
20100729 02:29:51< Blarumyrran> Who gets one additional friend
20100729 02:30:00< Blarumyrran> Not 50?
20100729 02:30:05< Hulavuta> Blarumyrran: I'm making 50 accounts
20100729 02:30:08< Blarumyrran> yes
20100729 02:30:17< PetePorty> Hula, I'll friend you if you tell me.
20100729 02:30:19< Hulavuta> I'm going to send a friend request to my account
20100729 02:30:28< Hulavuta> That way I'll get 50 friends
20100729 02:30:43< Hulavuta> Because I'll friend my account once each with all 50
20100729 02:30:46< PetePorty> Hulavuta, are you hearing me!?
20100729 02:30:50< Blarumyrran> <Hulavuta> No, I'm only friending one of them
20100729 02:30:53< Blarumyrran> <Hulavuta> Because I'll friend my account once each with all 50
20100729 02:31:03< Blarumyrran> I see a certain dissonance here
20100729 02:31:11< Hulavuta> friending meaning "to send a friend request"
20100729 02:31:19< Blarumyrran> Oh.
20100729 02:31:38< PetePorty> -.-
20100729 02:31:48< e_s-iOS> Blarumyrran: Do you not use Facebook?
20100729 02:31:48< PetePorty> anyway, why do you want a mousepad?
20100729 02:32:31< Blarumyrran> e_s-iOS, I do; but I thought the intuitive meaning of friending was to become friends with
20100729 02:32:41< e_s-iOS> Ah. Okay.
20100729 02:32:46< Blarumyrran> (which would be befriending, but friending could be some youthful concatenation of it)
20100729 02:32:50< Hulavuta> e_s-iOS: I'm the one who doesn't use it
20100729 02:32:53< Hulavuta> So I don't know the terms
20100729 02:33:05< e_s-iOS> Hulavuta: Seriously?
20100729 02:33:06< Hulavuta> PetePorty: I want one because you can get a pad with any picture on it
20100729 02:33:10< Hulavuta> Yeah, surprised?
20100729 02:33:23< PetePorty> ...why?
20100729 02:33:54< Hulavuta> I just don't use it
20100729 02:34:27< PetePorty> why do you want a pad?
20100729 02:34:40< PetePorty> like... to whack people arround?
20100729 02:34:44< PetePorty> >.<
20100729 02:35:08< Hulavuta> Do you know what a mousepad is for?
20100729 02:35:47< PetePorty> Umm... afaict, yes...
20100729 02:36:00< Hulavuta> So, I want a mousepad for two reasons
20100729 02:36:04< PetePorty> unless mousepad is a new ipad....
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20100729 02:36:08< Hulavuta> To make my mouse movements easier
20100729 02:36:17< Hulavuta> And because you can get a picture on it
20100729 02:36:19< Hulavuta> Of anything
20100729 02:36:22< PetePorty> ...
20100729 02:36:26< Hulavuta> As long as you can get a picture of it
20100729 02:36:31< PetePorty> What picture are you planning to get?
20100729 02:36:47< Hulavuta> Hmm,
20100729 02:36:47< PetePorty> I have a mouspad with myself on it... somewhere arround my house...
20100729 02:36:58< Hulavuta> As you can guess, something involving Dinosaurs
20100729 02:37:02< PetePorty> but mousepads make using mouses hard...
20100729 02:37:07< PetePorty> ahhh...
20100729 02:37:17< Hulavuta> Probably the picture from Calvin and Hobbes of the T-Rex piloting the f-14
20100729 02:37:20< PetePorty> really? whay don'tt you get something... unique?
20100729 02:37:30< PetePorty> like you riding a dinasaur?
20100729 02:37:36< Hulavuta> pssshhh
20100729 02:37:54< Hulavuta> comics aren't as popular as they used to be, you know
20100729 02:38:09< Hulavuta> They declined along with the newspaper
20100729 02:38:09< e_s-iOS> PetePorty: Or that convo of you and sweetangel talking
20100729 02:38:23< PetePorty> wth?
20100729 02:38:27< Hulavuta> lolololo
20100729 02:38:32< PetePorty> wasn't I sweetangel?
20100729 02:38:38< PetePorty> :?
20100729 02:38:41< e_s-iOS> Yeah
20100729 02:38:48< PetePorty> ...
20100729 02:38:57< PetePorty> you are so weird, e_s-iOS 
20100729 02:39:01< PetePorty> >.<
20100729 02:39:02< e_s-iOS> Just used 'you' because I forget the other person's name
20100729 02:39:15< PetePorty> hmmm...
20100729 02:39:30< PetePorty> just type 'wat' on google images, the firrst 20 things are that convo
20100729 02:39:31< e_s-iOS> PetePorty: I thought I was on of you're top three most respected people on wesnoth?
20100729 02:39:37< PetePorty> there you can see the name
20100729 02:39:56< PetePorty> e_s no, now I respect Gambit back.
20100729 02:40:18< e_s-iOS> :'(
20100729 02:40:24< PetePorty> hahaha
20100729 02:40:51< Gambit> respect is not something you temporarily remove when you get ticked off
20100729 02:40:59< Hulavuta> ture that
20100729 02:41:01< Hulavuta> *true
20100729 02:41:02< Gambit> so no thanks :\/
20100729 02:41:13< PetePorty> lol
20100729 02:41:22< e_s-iOS> Gambit: You'll always be on mine :)
20100729 02:41:26< PetePorty> Gambit, you I will never loose respect for you.
20100729 02:41:30< PetePorty> lol
20100729 02:41:46< PetePorty> unless you do something... *really* bad...
20100729 02:41:48< Gambit> Also :\/ is my awesome new "giant happy megaphone mouth" emote
20100729 02:41:55< PetePorty> like Magarfen...
20100729 02:42:03< Gambit> [see: Cheese from Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends]
20100729 02:42:22< Gambit> http://www.dvdverdict.com/images/reviewpics/fosters202.jpg
20100729 02:42:30< Gambit> (the one in the middle)
20100729 02:43:03< PetePorty> ...
20100729 02:43:59< Gambit> the mouth isn't open wide enough in that picture
20100729 02:50:21< Hulavuta> I remember that show
20100729 02:50:47< Hulavuta> Like all Cartoon Network shows, it got retarded near the end
20100729 02:50:51< shadowmaster> I do too.
20100729 02:51:04< shadowmaster> I have no idea about the end.
20100729 02:51:13< Hulavuta> They even managed to screw up Tom and Jerry, aka Best cartoon ever
20100729 02:51:45< Blarumyrran> ... what
20100729 02:52:01< Hulavuta> Have you seen the Tom and Jerry "movies"?
20100729 02:52:06< Gambit> Blarumyrran: It's Hulavuta. Disregard literary commentary.
20100729 02:52:11< e_s-iOS> Oh please.
20100729 02:52:24< Hulavuta> wtf
20100729 02:52:33< PetePorty> ...
20100729 02:52:41< Hulavuta> I'm confused'
20100729 02:53:05< Hulavuta> ....
20100729 02:53:07< PetePorty> I'm sexy'
20100729 02:53:10< PetePorty> ....
20100729 02:53:11< shadowmaster> Hulavuta: only the first one.
20100729 02:53:24< Hulavuta> wut
20100729 02:53:26< shadowmaster> fortunately
20100729 02:53:30< e_s-iOS> Lol
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20100729 02:53:37< shadowmaster> Hulavuta: wut what?
20100729 02:53:37< shadowmaster> 20:52:01 <Hulavuta> Have you seen the Tom and Jerry "movies"?
20100729 02:53:42< Hulavuta> Oh
20100729 02:53:47< Hulavuta> They're all horrible
20100729 02:53:48< e_s-iOS> I only like the quimby ones
20100729 02:53:48< shadowmaster> I was replying to that, of course.
20100729 02:53:56< e_s-iOS> I.e.
20100729 02:54:01< Hulavuta> Mostly because they introduce dialogue'
20100729 02:54:11< shadowmaster> singing.
20100729 02:54:14< shadowmaster> dialogue.
20100729 02:54:25< shadowmaster> annoying ternary girl character.
20100729 02:54:28 * Gambit blames disney
20100729 02:54:28< shadowmaster> annoying clichéd plot.
20100729 02:54:55< e_s-iOS> I was annoyed because the movie had almost nothing to do with the series itself
20100729 02:54:57< Gambit> disney is to blame for the general degredation of all childrens entertainment
20100729 02:55:08< e_s-iOS> Tom and Jerry, allied?
20100729 02:55:11< shadowmaster> the only thing good about it was that it resulted in a fun Nostalgia Critic review :P
20100729 02:55:17< e_s-iOS> Lol
20100729 02:55:36< Blarumyrran> Cartoons where people randomly hit each other with no consequences or true wittiness are awful. I think you are likely to grow up to a very degenerate person if you watch them a lot
20100729 02:55:53< Hulavuta> Blarumyrran: why did you say what? and e_s-iOS, why did you say "Oh Please"?
20100729 02:56:00< Hulavuta> oh
20100729 02:56:05< Hulavuta> nvm
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20100729 02:56:20< Hulavuta> I didn't watch them a lot, 
20100729 02:56:21< shadowmaster> Blarumyrran: you are calling me degenerate?
20100729 02:56:35< Blarumyrran> No
20100729 02:56:42< Hulavuta> But cartoons where people hit each other is much better than cartoons where people spout nonsense
20100729 02:56:57< Hulavuta> \typing with one hand while drinking orange juice
20100729 02:57:00< Blarumyrran> shadowmaster, I did word it carefully!
20100729 02:57:08< shadowmaster> Blarumyrran: good.
20100729 02:57:14< PetePorty> ...
20100729 02:57:19< PetePorty> I don't watch tv...
20100729 02:57:36< PetePorty> the only cartoon I watch right  now is One Piece...
20100729 02:57:42< Hulavuta> Blar, I'm saying that the cartoons were good for you, but they were entertaining for a young person, and it's "better" for you than the cartoons nowadays
20100729 02:57:43< PetePorty> and I watch it on my computer
20100729 02:57:45< PetePorty> XD
20100729 02:57:52< Hulavuta> Compare Tom and Jerry to Flapjack
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20100729 02:58:02< Blarumyrran> I don't know Flpajack
20100729 02:58:05< PetePorty> WTH is flapjack?
20100729 02:58:16< Hulavuta> Blarumyrran, PetePorty, good for you
20100729 02:58:19< Hulavuta> You don't want to
20100729 02:58:23< Blarumyrran> I meant more like, Wind In The Willows
20100729 02:58:30< Blarumyrran> and those polish or czech multfilms
20100729 02:58:32< Hulavuta> I love Wind in the Willows
20100729 02:58:36< Blarumyrran> Black Dog And White Dog
20100729 02:58:39< PetePorty> fap and jack seem to have something to do with each other, but I think tthere is an extra 'l'
20100729 02:58:53< Hulavuta> dude....wtf
20100729 02:58:59< PetePorty> huh?
20100729 02:59:00< Blarumyrran> I meant those as better than tom and jerry, that is
20100729 02:59:14< Hulavuta> Sure,
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20100729 02:59:16< PetePorty> so... it is fapjack?
20100729 02:59:23< Hulavuta> For heaven's sake no!
20100729 02:59:23< PetePorty> or the ''l' was intentioonal?
20100729 02:59:27< Hulavuta> It's a freaking child's show
20100729 02:59:27< PetePorty> oh...
20100729 02:59:33< PetePorty> Ah...
20100729 02:59:41< Gambit> Flapjack is awesome
20100729 02:59:42< Hulavuta> Maybe they'd parody it as fapjack
20100729 02:59:46< Gambit> the only cartoon I can stand to watch
20100729 02:59:51< Gambit> So don't be dissing
20100729 02:59:59< Hulavuta> Gambit: One Piece is a cartoon
20100729 03:00:04< Gambit> No
20100729 03:00:05< Hulavuta> technically
20100729 03:00:09< Gambit> One Piece is manga/anime
20100729 03:00:39< Gambit> Don't be triffin' me
20100729 03:00:47< Hulavuta> Check Google translator
20100729 03:00:58< Gambit> Hatas goona hate
20100729 03:01:19< Gambit> meme's are my wall
20100729 03:01:24< Gambit> My wall of bricks.
20100729 03:01:37< Gambit> So I am officially closed to all contrary opinions on this matter.
20100729 03:01:39< Gambit> Flapjack is awesome.
20100729 03:01:43< Gambit> One Piece is not a cartoon.
20100729 03:01:46< Gambit> Nor is it for children.
20100729 03:01:50< Hulavuta> LIES
20100729 03:01:58< Hulavuta> About the cartoon thing
20100729 03:02:15< Gambit> http://26.media.tumblr.com/pU1p3ehaPp0owg43RihIwoCro1_400.gif
20100729 03:02:19< Hulavuta> Anyway, I have to get back to my fake accounts
20100729 03:02:34< Hulavuta> Gambit: ROFL That made me chuckle
20100729 03:02:58< Hulavuta> It's not the fact that he's fat, but it's the drawing style
20100729 03:03:17< Gambit> [21:02:57] <Hulavuta> It's not the fact that he's fat
20100729 03:03:41< Gambit> GUILTY CONSCIENCE ALERT
20100729 03:03:44< Hulavuta> It looks like a guy from an old family show, which makes it funnier because "hater" is a more modern term
20100729 03:04:11< Hulavuta> What do you mean by GUILTY CONSCIENCE ALERT?
20100729 03:04:55< Blarumyrran> He means something that alerts of someone having guilt
20100729 03:05:04< Hulavuta> I know
20100729 03:05:28< Hulavuta> But that's just like saying "Taco" 
20100729 03:05:36< Hulavuta> I don't know what he means to ask/answer by that
20100729 03:05:43< GGLucas> Gambit: Anime ⊂ Cartoon
20100729 03:06:02< GGLucas> cartoon -noun
20100729 03:06:06< GGLucas> a motion picture consisting of a sequence of drawings, each so slightly different that when filmed and run through a projector the figures seem to move.
20100729 03:06:38< Blarumyrran> What's the best ASCII version of ⊂ ?
20100729 03:06:52< shadowmaster> Blarumyrran: "is a subset of"
20100729 03:07:04< Blarumyrran> That's too long
20100729 03:07:10< Blarumyrran> There must be something better
20100729 03:08:37< Hulavuta> Hail GGLucas
20100729 03:09:16< GGLucas> Also, One Piece *does*, in fact, belong to the "shonen" genre, which makes its intended audience aged around 12-14
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20100729 03:09:44< Hulavuta> Japan just tends to have less of a censorship
20100729 03:10:03< Hulavuta> Hence all of the violence, cursing and "imagery"
20100729 03:10:14< Valkier> But can't show the wang.
20100729 03:10:21< Valkier> Women can be raped by anything but a wang.
20100729 03:10:39< Hulavuta> Pidgin needs a "shocked" emoticon
20100729 03:10:45< PetePorty> ...
20100729 03:10:48< Valkier> But it's true.
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20100729 03:13:39< PetePorty> ...
20100729 03:15:56< Gambit> Hulavuta: irc has no emoticons
20100729 03:16:02< Gambit> ¯\(°_o)/¯
20100729 03:16:44< Gambit> Hulavuta: Also my ALERT was based upon the fact that you defended yourself from laughing at someone because they're fat
20100729 03:16:52< Gambit> Even though nobody accused you of doing so
20100729 03:16:57< Gambit> (or would have afaik)
20100729 03:17:09< PetePorty> ...
20100729 03:17:11< PetePorty> I'm fat.
20100729 03:17:15< Hulavuta> I assumed that was why it was funny
20100729 03:17:22< Gambit> ...
20100729 03:17:31< Hulavuta> Plus fat people IRL aren't funny
20100729 03:17:45< PetePorty> :(
20100729 03:17:48< PetePorty> I am funny...
20100729 03:17:50< Hulavuta> Most funny fat people on the internet have photoshopped features
20100729 03:17:57< Hulavuta> PetePorty: I mean it's not funny BECAUSe they're fat
20100729 03:18:00< Gambit> Hulavuta: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/haters-gonna-hate
20100729 03:18:03< PetePorty> but I am!
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20100729 03:19:02< PetePorty> gee.
20100729 03:21:32< Gambit> furthermore
20100729 03:21:33< Gambit> http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/57454
20100729 03:21:41< Gambit> ^this is the best picture on the entire website
20100729 03:21:54< Gambit> That is all.
20100729 03:22:13< PetePorty> ...
20100729 03:22:25< Hulavuta> ...
20100729 03:22:36< Aethaeryn> http://knowyourmeme.com/i/000/061/988/original/haters.jpg?1280209860
20100729 03:22:37< Gambit> +5 reputation points to the first person who can name the actor in that picture
20100729 03:22:51< Hulavuta> Murdock 
20100729 03:22:53< Hulavuta> nah jk
20100729 03:22:53< Aethaeryn> http://knowyourmeme.com/i/000/059/523/original/HatersGonna--CHUUUUUUUU.png?1279289172
20100729 03:22:57< Gambit> Hulavuta: *actor*
20100729 03:23:08< Hulavuta> I know
20100729 03:23:12< Hulavuta> That's why I said "jk"
20100729 03:23:21< Aethaeryn> Gambit: two I find funnier
20100729 03:23:23< Aethaeryn> in the same meme
20100729 03:23:27< Gambit> Aethaeryn: lies
20100729 03:23:32< Gambit> You're goona hate!
20100729 03:23:55< Hulavuta> Dwight Schultz
20100729 03:24:07< Gambit> Disqualified for looking it up.
20100729 03:24:18< Hulavuta> But I was right
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20100729 03:24:53< Blarumyrran> I don't think any of those pictures are funny
20100729 03:24:58< Gambit> Okay +1 point if you can name the character he currently voices in a cartoon network cartoon
20100729 03:25:11< Gambit> I actually occasionally watch this cartoon just because of him...
20100729 03:25:19< Gambit> (and because it's on before or after flapjack)
20100729 03:25:23< Gambit> (and it is mildly amusing...)
20100729 03:25:29< Hulavuta> Mung Daal
20100729 03:25:31< Gambit> (maybe moderately amusic)
20100729 03:25:39< Hulavuta> I used to watch Chowder, but eh
20100729 03:25:43< Gambit> Yeah I was flipping through the info one day
20100729 03:25:44< Gambit> and I'm like
20100729 03:25:51< Gambit> "voice of Dwight Shultz"
20100729 03:25:55< Gambit> WTF I MUST WATCH THIS!
20100729 03:26:00< Hulavuta> Also he was in Ben 10? odd
20100729 03:26:05< Gambit> idc
20100729 03:26:18< Gambit> He's had to do a lot of their cartoons lately :(
20100729 03:26:24< Gambit> I guess you have to do what you have to do
20100729 03:26:32< Gambit> his radio show isn't working out so well
20100729 03:26:35< Hulavuta> He get's even more reputation points for me because he's only been married once
20100729 03:26:39< Hulavuta> *gets
20100729 03:26:45< Hulavuta> *from
20100729 03:27:08< Gambit> Espreon: http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/56438
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20100729 03:27:39< Gambit> I'z in ur way log. Sendin u fotoz
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20100729 03:28:55< Aethaeryn> hmmm
20100729 03:29:11< Aethaeryn> people who play Wesnoth still watch cartoons?
20100729 03:29:20< Aethaeryn> I gave up cartoons relatively young... didn't want to seem immature
20100729 03:29:55< Blarumyrran> Some cartoons are fun to watch even if you're not juvenile
20100729 03:30:14< Aethaeryn> I know, but when I was a kid I didn't want to be a kid
20100729 03:30:25< Hulavuta> Aethaeryn: And now you miss it?
20100729 03:30:37< Aethaeryn> no, not really
20100729 03:31:03< Aethaeryn> The stuff I can make now outdo the legos of my childhood
20100729 03:31:07< Blarumyrran> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEkMqwmTXRo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Bvg8eCfoQg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NS7Pn3w5bHc <- the ones I like to link to
20100729 03:31:30< Gambit> Blarumyrran: that is disturbing...
20100729 03:32:14< Hulavuta> Again, Pidgin needs a shocked emoticon
20100729 03:33:02< Aethaeryn> anyone who uses pidgin for IRC doesn't know IRC
20100729 03:33:13< Aethaeryn> I might as well use irssi for AIM
20100729 03:36:50< Hulavuta> I use Pidgin for IRC because 1. all I really want is chat and 2. It can handle all of my other stuff and 3. I'm too lazy to download anything else
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20100729 04:44:10< Espreon> Aethaeryn: ...
20100729 04:44:21< Espreon> Smugleaf's awesome...
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20100729 04:47:42< Aethaeryn> Espreon: I don't believe that Pokemon evolve.
20100729 04:48:42< Gambit> rofl
20100729 04:49:49< Espreon> Aethaeryn: Yeah, yeah...
20100729 04:54:14< Gambit> jeß jeß
20100729 04:54:30< Gambit> shadowmaster: Someone is impersonating Espreon!
20100729 04:56:10< Espreon> Sigh...
20100729 04:56:41< Aethaeryn> Gambit: that makes your value a "0"
20100729 04:56:55< Aethaeryn> haha, in-joke from another chan only Espreon and I will get
20100729 04:57:06< Espreon> ...
20100729 04:57:52< Aethaeryn> hah
20100729 04:57:56< Aethaeryn> double in-joke
20100729 04:58:01< Aethaeryn> since
20100729 04:58:01< Aethaeryn> 22:52:14 < Espreon> ...
20100729 04:58:45< Aethaeryn> Espreon: let's pile another layer of obscurity upon this
20100729 04:59:48< Espreon> Not right now...
20100729 05:00:26< Gambit> And now Aethaeryn knows.
20100729 05:00:36< Gambit> Hmmm
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20100729 08:19:07< shadowmaster> if any forumers are around, please note that we'll experiment some turbulence for the following few minutes while I purge the style cache
20100729 08:19:16< shadowmaster> Thanks for your attention.
20100729 08:19:40< shadowmaster> (turbulence == moderator lists aappearing and disappearing in the index view for no apparent reason)
20100729 08:20:53< shadowmaster> hm, the key here is purging twice in a row.
20100729 08:21:10< shadowmaster> maintenance over, thank for your patience, bunch of idlers.
20100729 08:21:14< shadowmaster> *thanks
20100729 08:22:17< shadowmaster> uh. Something isn't right
20100729 08:23:49< shadowmaster> okay, third punch in the guts worked
20100729 08:23:59 * Valkier spews forth
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20100729 11:27:18< koan> is it normal that Kaleh in Under The Burning Suns doesn't level up? when he had full XP, I only had the choice or a better bow or sword, but he kept level 1
20100729 11:27:53 * Unnheulu nods
20100729 11:28:07< Unnheulu> Espreon would know best though, being the maintainer
20100729 11:28:13< koan> so he stays level 1 the whole campaign?
20100729 11:28:26< Unnheulu> Dunno
20100729 11:29:17< koan> thanks for the confirmation, I thought it was an error, but it seems UtBS is just a strange campaign :-)
20100729 11:30:10< Rhonda> Nothing compared to the epic battles in NR
20100729 11:30:11< Unnheulu> You betcha it is
20100729 11:30:16< Unnheulu> Rhonda^^
20100729 11:30:45< Rhonda> If you end your turn, go for a walk with your dog. An extended walk, mind you.
20100729 11:31:28< Rhonda> If you don't own a dog, it should be possible to buy one after your next turn.
20100729 11:31:31< koan> NR was when I doubled the speed of the movements in Wesnoth :-)
20100729 11:33:09< koan> I heard others complain about the length of the AI's turns, but it wasn't as bad as I expected, only the last battle was a bit too much
20100729 11:36:40 * Unnheulu got bored halfway through sc.2
20100729 11:36:45< Valkier> NR!?
20100729 11:36:47 * Valkier explodes
20100729 11:37:23< Unnheulu> Maybe I'll retry it in svn later
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20100729 14:07:06< Hulavuta> Hi
20100729 14:07:22< Unnheulu> Hiah
20100729 14:07:46< Hulavuta> I'm going on vacation today
20100729 14:07:54< Hulavuta> However it's extremely bad timing
20100729 14:08:44< Unnheulu> :P
20100729 14:08:59< Unnheulu> (Everyone, Hulavuta's house is empty, lets go rob it!)
20100729 14:09:10< Hulavuta> Good luck finding it. 
20100729 14:09:38< Hulavuta> I don't know if I should change my signature to Wesbreak because I'm not sure if there is going to be a computer up there
20100729 14:09:54< Unnheulu> Your in Orlando Florida, no?
20100729 14:10:01< Hulavuta> Yes
20100729 14:10:07< Unnheulu> Your ISP is Road Runner?
20100729 14:10:16< Unnheulu> Hulavuta: I'm getting all this from one google search
20100729 14:10:19< Hulavuta> Lol
20100729 14:10:55< Hulavuta> You're in the UK
20100729 14:10:59< Unnheulu> You live near a Toll Road?
20100729 14:11:18< Hulavuta> Not sure
20100729 14:11:31< Hulavuta> There's a highway nearby but I'm not sure if it's a toll road
20100729 14:11:36< Unnheulu> Near waterside Pointe Cir
20100729 14:11:46< Hulavuta> Lemme check
20100729 14:12:25< Unnheulu> My IP is many towns away from my hohuse
20100729 14:12:29< Unnheulu> s/towns/villages/
20100729 14:12:34< Hulavuta> No
20100729 14:12:40 * Unnheulu loves Wales, so sparsely populated
20100729 14:13:11< Hulavuta> You live in a whale???/
20100729 14:13:22< Hulavuta> jk
20100729 14:13:27< Unnheulu> Yeah
20100729 14:13:31< Unnheulu> I'm also called Jonah
20100729 14:13:46< Hulavuta> You kinda ruined it
20100729 14:15:03< Hulavuta> Anyways,
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20100729 14:19:08< Unnheulu> Coding a textbox in python/pygame is oddly fun
20100729 14:20:17< Hulavuta> anyway, I'm off
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20100729 16:29:57< Gambit> Okay I can't draw in gimp...
20100729 16:30:09< Gambit> I need an ubuntu equivalant of paint...
20100729 16:31:12< elias> yeah, you need to forget everything about paint before using gimp
20100729 16:31:27< elias> trying to use gimp in a non-gimp way will fail :P
20100729 16:32:20< Gambit> :\ gnu paint has no zoom
20100729 16:32:21< Gambit> fail
20100729 16:34:01< elias> kde has a paint program i think
20100729 16:34:07< sevis> There's KolourPaint, if you don't mind getting Qt.
20100729 16:34:16< elias> ah, yes, that's the one
20100729 16:34:23< Gambit> sevis: yessss
20100729 16:37:18< Gambit> Thank you both. This will work nicely.
20100729 16:37:25< Gambit> Just the right amount of dumb downedness
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20100729 16:41:18< Gambit> KolourPaint automatically gets 100 points for defaulting to png.
20100729 16:41:22< Gambit> The *only* image format.
20100729 16:41:55< Gambit> bmps and non-animated gifs are only figments of our imaginations
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20100729 16:43:13< Unnheulu> Yay, my text box works
20100729 16:43:17< Unnheulu> Ahm...
20100729 16:43:46< Unnheulu> It appears if I have multiple textboxes, I did not allow one to be active; so all are active...
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20100729 16:56:13< Unnheulu> Fixed
20100729 16:56:59< Unnheulu> Wrong channel >.>
20100729 16:59:26< Gambit> Heh
20100729 16:59:32< GGLucas> So it says that if you connect to server.wesnoth.org it "redirects" to the appropriate server for your version, right? Does anyone know which one that would be for 1.8.x?
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20100729 16:59:53< Gambit> I posted in the ideas thread that if a certain feature existed a WML prototype for the idea could be made.
20100729 16:59:58< Gambit> I wiki it and that feature does exist!
20100729 17:00:04< Gambit> so a prototype can be made except for this one part.
20100729 17:00:14< Gambit> One wiki search later "except for" becomes "even"
20100729 17:00:33< GGLucas> I'm trying to set up a tcp proxy so a friend behind a rather awful firewall can connect to me on port 80 and I can proxy it to the official server. But proxying to server.wesnoth.org won't work.
20100729 17:01:00< Gambit> the different version's servers operate on different ports
20100729 17:01:06< Gambit> what those numbers are I cannot remember though
20100729 17:01:22< GGLucas> Gambit: Makes sense. I'd need to know the number though.
20100729 17:01:25< GGLucas> No list anywhere?
20100729 17:02:00< Gambit> try 15001
20100729 17:02:23< Gambit> that might just be for the 1.8 side of add-ons.wesnoth.org though...
20100729 17:02:31< GGLucas> Gambit: No, can't connect to that.
20100729 17:03:09< Gambit> it's somewhere in 15000 - 14997
20100729 17:03:11< Gambit> according the wiki
20100729 17:03:14< GGLucas> Ok
20100729 17:03:15< Gambit> which may be out of date
20100729 17:03:35< GGLucas> 14998 seems to work
20100729 17:03:37< GGLucas> Thanks.
20100729 17:04:07< Gambit> A list really should be made somewhere...
20100729 17:04:24< Gambit> welll I've got some free time I guess
20100729 17:05:03< Gambit> or not http://wiki.wesnoth.org/MultiplayerServers
20100729 17:05:16< Gambit> er wait that's not it
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20100729 17:11:36< Gambit> aaand done
20100729 17:11:43< Gambit> GGLucas: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/MultiplayerServers#Public_Official_servers
20100729 17:11:55< GGLucas> Gambit: Thank you.
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20100729 18:06:48< Blarumyrran> Ken_Oh, goblin - frog = batman?
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20100729 18:19:27< Unnheulu> elvish_sovereign: openfeint
20100729 18:19:35< elvish_sovereign> huh?
20100729 18:19:48< Unnheulu> Go into it :P
20100729 18:20:37< elvish_sovereign> I don;t have an i device with me right now...
20100729 18:20:42< elvish_sovereign> on the website though
20100729 18:20:48< Unnheulu> D'ya know who Ayad is?
20100729 18:20:55< elvish_sovereign> no
20100729 18:20:58< elvish_sovereign> I never check
20100729 18:21:08< Unnheulu> He's some wesnoth player who wants to be my openfeint friend, but unless I know who he is I'm rejecting
20100729 18:21:11< elvish_sovereign> I only got it so I can see the free games
20100729 18:21:16< elvish_sovereign> okay
20100729 18:21:20< Unnheulu> But I don't wanna be a jerk who rejects someone I know
20100729 18:21:32< elvish_sovereign> ask him who he is then
20100729 18:21:36< Unnheulu> elvish_sovereign: I added you as a friend :P
20100729 18:21:42< Unnheulu> How?
20100729 18:21:48< elvish_sovereign> oh cool
20100729 18:21:56< elvish_sovereign> dunno, was just a thought :p
20100729 18:22:03< Unnheulu> You need to accept still
20100729 18:22:07< elvish_sovereign> sure
20100729 18:22:22< elvish_sovereign> once I get that oversized Ipod with me.
20100729 18:23:41< Unnheulu> :D
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20100729 18:24:37< Unnheulu> elvish_sovereign: omg, I gotta get you a screenshot of what I'm doing
20100729 18:24:46< elvish_sovereign> hm?
20100729 18:25:43< Unnheulu> elvish_sovereign: http://www.jonespenarth.me.uk/~ieuan/mapeditor-1.png
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20100729 18:25:56< Unnheulu> I'm rebuilding my map editor, and those textboxes took me yeeeaaars
20100729 18:26:05< elvish_sovereign> oh yayz
20100729 18:26:14< elvish_sovereign> cool stuff
20100729 18:26:19< Unnheulu> Well, they took me the whole of today at elast >.>
20100729 18:26:28< elvish_sovereign> lol
20100729 18:26:28< Unnheulu> I've given up on the C++ port, and reverting to python
20100729 18:27:05< Unnheulu> It suppports any character on your keyboard that is a) ascii and b) not a shift/alt gr key
20100729 18:27:13< Unnheulu> Move to #amazolia?
20100729 18:27:22< elvish_sovereign> okay
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20100729 19:26:45< Chris7mas> anyone wants to play a ladder game?
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20100729 19:45:01< Chris7mas> question: what is the new way to type larger labels in 1.8? in 1.6 was the use of stars, but this doesn't seem to work now
20100729 19:50:42< Unnheulu> Pango
20100729 19:50:48< Unnheulu> *Pangomarkup
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20100729 19:51:20< Unnheulu> Although, "*"'s in the game names breaks the 1.8.0 lobby
20100729 19:51:37< Unnheulu> s/1.8.0/svn/
20100729 19:51:59< Unnheulu> s/svn/svn lobby used in 1.8.0/ (I'm not escaping anything, so shutup! :P)
20100729 19:59:44< Chris7mas> what is pangomarkup?
20100729 20:02:12< Chris7mas> oh, i got it
20100729 20:02:17< Chris7mas> it looks like html tags
20100729 20:02:24< Chris7mas> nice
20100729 20:02:30< Chris7mas> gonna keep spammers away ;)
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20100729 21:07:01< Gambit> Anyone for Wesnoth (Breaking Ground)?
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20100729 22:04:08< SekoIdiootti> Has anyone seen the zombie I did yet?
20100729 22:04:10< SekoIdiootti> xD
20100729 22:05:18< Blarumyrran> Are you woodmouse?
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20100729 22:05:41< SekoIdiootti> yeah
20100729 22:05:49< SekoIdiootti> everyone keeps forgetting. D:
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20100729 22:06:13< Blarumyrran> That could be helped by using the same nick in different places
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20100729 22:06:46< SekoIdiootti> well, then people would forget that I'm me
20100729 22:06:48< SekoIdiootti> lol
20100729 22:06:58 * Blarumyrran doesn't follow
20100729 22:07:16< Gambit> you've got to rename yourself here or on the forums
20100729 22:07:21< Gambit> or get a new user string
20100729 22:07:31< SekoIdiootti> HAHA, macaronis xD
20100729 22:07:31< Gambit> but you're on chatzilla so meh
20100729 22:07:50< Blarumyrran> Gambit, what about chatzilla?
20100729 22:08:00< Blarumyrran> I like chatzilla
20100729 22:08:12< SekoIdiootti> YEAH CHATZILLA IS AWESOME
20100729 22:08:17< Gambit> Do browser based IRC clients allow for changing of your user string?
20100729 22:08:18< SekoIdiootti> [/capsoff]
20100729 22:08:30< Blarumyrran> Gambit, nick, you mean?
20100729 22:08:32< Gambit> No
20100729 22:08:50< Blarumyrran> What string then
20100729 22:08:59< Gambit> When you sign into IRC (not via a client)
20100729 22:09:03< Gambit> you must specify a user and a nick
20100729 22:09:09< Gambit> the client sets this for you
20100729 22:09:13< Gambit> some clients don't let you change it
20100729 22:09:16< Gambit> Like mine is Quassel
20100729 22:09:21< Gambit> and SekoIdiootti's is chatzilla
20100729 22:09:30< Blarumyrran> That doesn't matter though
20100729 22:09:33< Gambit> and yours is Blarumyrr
20100729 22:09:47< Gambit> Blarumyrran: Well if he made his user woodmouse then he could at least tell people to whois him :P
20100729 22:09:52 * SekoIdiootti goes fix the zombie
20100729 22:10:06< Blarumyrran> Gambit, if he changed his nick he wouldn't even have to
20100729 22:10:23< Gambit> SekoIdiootti: Yeah! If you changed your nick you wouldn't have to.
20100729 22:10:30< SekoIdiootti> ?
20100729 22:10:57< SekoIdiootti> I won't change my nick in IRC, because 90% of people know me as sekoidiootti, and not woodmouse
20100729 22:11:24< SekoIdiootti> so they'd be like "wtf are you" xD
20100729 22:11:44< Blarumyrran> Once someone said that changing nicks on forums is not allowed without serious reasons
20100729 22:11:54< Blarumyrran> But Turuk did that without any questions
20100729 22:12:03< SekoIdiootti> mmmmhhhhhh
20100729 22:12:19< SekoIdiootti> Weeeeeeeeell, I had asked like 3 times if my nick would be changed
20100729 22:12:31< SekoIdiootti> here though
20100729 22:12:33< SekoIdiootti> not in the forums
20100729 22:12:35< SekoIdiootti> I mean
20100729 22:12:43< Blarumyrran> Besides
20100729 22:12:44< SekoIdiootti> ...I DONT WANT TO PM ANYONE D:
20100729 22:12:49< SekoIdiootti> because I'm an ashhole
20100729 22:12:51< SekoIdiootti> AGH
20100729 22:12:53< SekoIdiootti> wtf ash
20100729 22:12:55< SekoIdiootti> lol
20100729 22:13:02< SekoIdiootti> weeeell, it's a good typo though
20100729 22:13:09< SekoIdiootti> not a swear word
20100729 22:13:42< SekoIdiootti> ugh Blarumyrran, how do you mean macaronis?
20100729 22:14:22< Blarumyrran> if you changed your nick to Woodmouse, you're saying you would abandon your old IRC identity partly, as many people on IRC wouldn't recognize you as the same person who was once SekoIdiootti
20100729 22:14:27< Blarumyrran> Is that a bad thing though?
20100729 22:14:33< SekoIdiootti> it is
20100729 22:14:40< SekoIdiootti> because of my music stuff, etc
20100729 22:15:01< SekoIdiootti> I mean, I "adversite" my music to people in #music, and some other places
20100729 22:15:02< SekoIdiootti> xD
20100729 22:15:07< Blarumyrran> SekoIdiootti, I mean shaped like macaronis
20100729 22:15:12< SekoIdiootti> hmmmm
20100729 22:15:19< SekoIdiootti> I don't see them that way :/
20100729 22:15:31< SekoIdiootti> and my brother doesn't either though, I asked him
20100729 22:15:32< SekoIdiootti> D:
20100729 22:15:58< Blarumyrran> That's because you can't diagnose problems!
20100729 22:16:11< SekoIdiootti> hhmmm
20100729 22:16:26< Blarumyrran> I'm like a doctor, and I diagnose that the problem with your sprite is that his torso, legs and hands loook like jointless amorphous macaronis
20100729 22:16:39< SekoIdiootti> ohhh
20100729 22:16:45< SekoIdiootti> you mean like... non-boned?
20100729 22:16:47< Blarumyrran> 5 discrete macaronis, too
20100729 22:18:28< SekoIdiootti> :0
20100729 22:19:58< Blarumyrran> SekoIdiootti, nonboned & nonmuscled
20100729 22:20:03< Blarumyrran> Like pasta
20100729 22:20:16< SekoIdiootti> mmmmh
20100729 22:20:18< SekoIdiootti> pasta...
20100729 22:20:22< SekoIdiootti> xD
20100729 22:20:36< SekoIdiootti> hmm, I don't really know why... D:
20100729 22:20:59< SekoIdiootti> is it because they're fat?
20100729 22:21:05< SekoIdiootti> I mean, like... fat and curly
20100729 22:21:19< Blarumyrran> It's because they're shapeless
20100729 22:21:33< SekoIdiootti> hmmmm but they're not D:
20100729 22:21:37< Blarumyrran> You just randomly draw a macaroni and call it a hand
20100729 22:21:49< SekoIdiootti> ohhhh you're talking about hands? :0
20100729 22:21:53< Blarumyrran> While it could as well be a bag of flour, or a leg, or macaroni
20100729 22:22:13< Blarumyrran> Legs/hands/torso/head, everything
20100729 22:22:17< SekoIdiootti> oh D:
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