--- Log opened Sun Aug 01 00:00:15 2010
20100801 00:11:20-!- PetePorty [~Pete@pc-235-252-120-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20100801 00:52:39< Gambit> sweet I just learned that anywhere in the house http://ubuntu.local/ goes to my webserver
20100801 00:52:53< Aethaeryn> ok
20100801 00:52:56< Gambit> Do I hear "internal webmail"?
20100801 00:52:56< Aethaeryn> cool
20100801 00:53:19< Aethaeryn> you should have an internal search engine too
20100801 00:53:59< Gambit> You laugh now, but this'll be good experience.
20100801 00:55:00< Gambit> As soon as I can get back to my desktop...
20100801 01:01:13< Aethaeryn> Gambit: well, yeah, just stick with it
20100801 01:01:21< Aethaeryn> and in 10 years maybe you'll forget your VisualBasic days
20100801 01:03:37< Gambit> I already forget them
20100801 01:03:54< Gambit> I vaugely remember not being able to substitute variables into strings
20100801 01:03:57 * Gambit shudders
20100801 01:04:06< Gambit> err
20100801 01:04:11< Gambit> s/strings/names of variables/
20100801 01:04:36< Espreon> Tch, this is hard...
20100801 01:04:52< Gambit> That's what she said!
20100801 01:04:55< Gambit> Espreon: What is hard?
20100801 01:04:56< Aethaeryn> Gambit: http://norvig.com/21-days.html
20100801 01:05:11< Espreon> Gambit: Teaching my youngest brother how to play "Metroid Prime".
20100801 01:05:37< Espreon> He lost to Flaahgra twice, and... yeahz...
20100801 01:06:38< Gambit> Aethaeryn: I dropped visual basic as soon as I learned my first server side language <3
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20100801 01:07:07< Gambit> Actually that's a lie. I wanted to make a game with a downloadable visual basic client and a browser version
20100801 01:07:14< Gambit> But it wasn't long after
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20100801 01:08:03< Aethaeryn> hah
20100801 01:08:05< Aethaeryn> I just noticed
20100801 01:08:08< Aethaeryn> that thing I linked to
20100801 01:08:09< Gambit> I wonder what happened to SM.
20100801 01:08:10< Aethaeryn> "#  Python: Python Programming: An Intro to CS (Zelle) is a good introduction using Python. "
20100801 01:08:15< Aethaeryn> That's my textbook for CMSC 201 XD
20100801 01:08:23< Gambit> He timed out as soon as he joined and hasn't come back.
20100801 01:08:28< Aethaeryn> one of the things mentioned in the article
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20100801 01:38:24< Gambit> shadowmaster: What software do you use for your IRC server?
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20100801 02:16:37< Gambit> Apparently when you tell ColdFusion to install itself onto apache, it is still running by itself seperately. Because apache can be restarted without affecting ColdFusion at all :s
20100801 02:16:41< Gambit> That is *really* misleading.
20100801 02:17:35< Gambit> So apparently "install coldfusion to use your existing apache server" just means "tell apache to redirect certain requests to me"
20100801 02:17:56< Gambit> shadowmaster: That's a new suffix.
20100801 02:18:00< Gambit> What's it mean? :o
20100801 02:18:31< Gambit> shadowmaster: You'
20100801 02:18:38< Espreon> Gambit: Try researching it?
20100801 02:18:38< Gambit> re on a teletypewriter?
20100801 02:19:35< Gambit> Espreon: I did. He's on a teletypewriter.
20100801 02:19:52< Gambit> Either that or he's in a Finnish university.
20100801 02:20:02< shadowm_tty> Gambit: Linux text terminal
20100801 02:20:06< shadowm_tty> not anymore though
20100801 02:20:11-!- shadowm_tty is now known as shadowm_laptop
20100801 02:20:27< shadowm_laptop> I have bad news
20100801 02:20:38< Espreon> What?
20100801 02:21:35< shadowmaster> 13:58:43 -!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20100801 02:21:37< Espreon> ... and now to migrate to udev...
20100801 02:21:38< shadowmaster> 13:58:56 <shadowmaster> the laptop had its battery at 50% when I turned it on
20100801 02:21:42< shadowmaster> 13:59:06 <shadowmaster> now it claims 0% and even the LED is blinking
20100801 02:21:44< Espreon> Oh noez!
20100801 02:21:44< shadowmaster> 13:59:11 <shadowmaster> :/
20100801 02:21:49< shadowmaster> I was just going to say, "I'll have to prepare for an unexpected shutdown" when it went down
20100801 02:21:50< Gambit> The memory effect?
20100801 02:22:15< shadowmaster> so basically, I can't use the battery anymore.
20100801 02:22:27< shadowmaster> unless this charge cycle goes well. Please don't ruin my hopes.
20100801 02:22:48< shadowmaster> so if you know something about this, don't tell me until I start shouting and cursing.
20100801 02:22:57< shadowmaster> then you can tell me the truth.
20100801 02:23:02 * shadowmaster hopes.
20100801 02:23:32< Gambit> I hate it when that happens.
20100801 02:23:35< shadowmaster> anyway, as soon as I have that HDD and backup a complete image of my laptop's, I'll send this thing to tech support
20100801 02:23:47< shadowmaster> and buy a new battery with my emergency budget.
20100801 02:23:59< shadowmaster> something next week-ish
20100801 02:24:13< shadowmaster> since I don't have classes on Fridays anymore (yays!) I could use that day to work out something
20100801 02:24:13< Gambit> My school's laptop was down to holding only 3% charge.
20100801 02:24:26< Gambit> That and other problems made me send it back, and the new one was only holding 16% -_-
20100801 02:24:49< shadowmaster> greycore's battery apparently died too. Bad timing.
20100801 02:25:30< Gambit> shadowmaster: Something in the water.
20100801 02:26:06< shadowmaster> wtf has water to do with this.
20100801 02:26:26< Gambit> Well "something in the electicity" sounded even dumber.
20100801 02:26:49< Gambit> *more dumb
20100801 02:27:00< shadowmaster> again, water has nothing to do with laptops.
20100801 02:27:03< shadowmaster> I mean, it's not like this is a steam machine
20100801 02:27:23< shadowmaster> the most annoying part of this is that it killed my pretty uptime
20100801 02:27:52< shadowmaster> even if I tried hibernating again, the battery would've surely died in middle of the process
20100801 02:28:16< Gambit> Oh that's the one with the 500 days?
20100801 02:28:23< Gambit> :(
20100801 02:28:27< shadowmaster> ...no
20100801 02:28:37< shadowmaster> this is bluecore.
20100801 02:28:41< shadowmaster> grycore's battery had also died as I said above.
20100801 02:28:52< shadowmaster> but I had ~7 days on bluecore
20100801 02:29:04< shadowmaster> naturally this also killed my web browser cache
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20100801 02:30:18< un214> so someone just how to get me a translation
20100801 02:30:33< un214> http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=10819&p=446856#p446856
20100801 02:32:22< Espreon> un214: You misspelled "#wesnoth-umc-dev"
20100801 02:32:50< un214> fixed -- what a weird typo
20100801 02:32:50< Espreon> un214: Also, you should tell the translators to send their translations to torangan.
20100801 02:33:06< Espreon> Well... I could do it too...
20100801 02:33:41< un214> don't bother I just did
20100801 02:33:55< un214> (tell him to send to torangan that is)
20100801 02:35:25< Espreon> un214: I'm "Espreon", not "Esperon"
20100801 02:36:16< un214> my spelling sucks today
20100801 02:40:58< shadowmaster> okay, let me think, 13% of the battery charge is reported as 128 mAh
20100801 02:41:12< shadowmaster> so, the "suspected total" would be...hm.
20100801 02:41:31< shadowmaster> argh, I started the wrong maple
20100801 02:41:31< shadowmaster> kill kill kill
20100801 02:41:54< Espreon> Odd, for some reason, I seem to be using the powersave policy...
20100801 02:42:10< Espreon> ... even though I have it set to performance.
20100801 02:42:14< shadowmaster> 984 mAH?
20100801 02:42:18< shadowmaster> what the 
20100801 02:42:30< Espreon> Bah, oh well...
20100801 02:42:37< shadowmaster> I hope I'm just doing my calculations wrong.
20100801 02:43:08< shadowmaster> no, they are right.
20100801 02:43:13< shadowmaster> motherf-
20100801 02:43:27< shadowmaster> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
20100801 02:43:32< Espreon> Oh noez...
20100801 02:43:34< shadowmaster> ker.
20100801 02:43:59< shadowmaster> it's quickly charging
20100801 02:44:14< shadowmaster> 13% to 22% in 3 minutes is clearly wrong
20100801 02:44:30< shadowmaster> 160 mAh
20100801 02:44:36< shadowmaster> :<
20100801 02:44:51< shadowmaster> I want to take this battery and mash it to tiny pieces.
20100801 02:45:01< shadowmaster> but the safety label says that'd be bad.
20100801 02:45:12< shadowmaster> for me or the environment.
20100801 02:45:16< shadowmaster> *smash
20100801 02:45:25< shadowmaster> I'll watch something and relax, yeah htat's it
20100801 02:45:27< shadowmaster> afk
20100801 02:45:33-!- shadowm_laptop is now known as shadowm_rage
20100801 02:46:37< Espreon> Nah, no migration for now.
20100801 02:53:02< Gambit> There's nothing wrong with smashing if you wear a hazmat suit.
20100801 02:53:18< Gambit> You could burn it :D
20100801 02:54:39< Gambit> norbert uses 4chan D:
20100801 02:59:04< Espreon> This is horrible!
20100801 03:02:12< Espreon> Gambit: amirite?
20100801 03:02:26< Gambit> Espreon: jeß jeß
20100801 03:04:39< shadowm_rage> Gambit: ...really?
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20100801 03:04:50< shadowm_rage> Gambit: that explains...a lot of things
20100801 03:05:35< Gambit> shadowmaster: see #wesnoth
20100801 03:05:46< Gambit> *[see: #wesnoth]
20100801 03:06:14< Gambit> /b/ers aren't allowed to know web design!
20100801 03:06:19< Gambit> He must have used front page!
20100801 03:06:35< shadowm_rage> Gambit: I know, I read that
20100801 03:06:46< shadowm_rage> lessee
20100801 03:06:54< Espreon> Why would anyone use such a low-class website?
20100801 03:07:14< shadowm_rage> now that we know that he's one with Anonymous, we can just ignore his opinions on Wesnoth business
20100801 03:07:17< shadowm_rage> oh wait.
20100801 03:07:23< shadowm_rage> he could summon the full power of Anonymous.
20100801 03:07:29< shadowm_rage> okay, what can we do?
20100801 03:07:40< shadowm_rage> call upon our scientologist army?
20100801 03:07:44< Espreon> shadowm_rage: Just don't give out your docs?
20100801 03:07:47< Espreon> Ewwwwww...
20100801 03:08:06< shadowm_rage> I know!
20100801 03:08:13< shadowm_rage> Gremlins!
20100801 03:08:16< shadowm_rage> That'll work
20100801 03:08:20< Espreon> No, $cientology.
20100801 03:08:27< shadowm_rage> Espreon: no
20100801 03:08:30< shadowm_rage> we need gremlins
20100801 03:08:37< Espreon> I know.
20100801 03:08:46< Espreon> But, you mentioned it... and I was like... yeahz...
20100801 03:08:51< Gambit> You have a scientologist army?
20100801 03:08:55< Gambit> That's almost as bad!
20100801 03:09:07< shadowm_rage> Gambit: desperate times call for desperate measures.
20100801 03:09:15< Espreon> shadowm_rage: Get rid of it!
20100801 03:09:22< shadowm_rage> Espreon: aw.
20100801 03:09:27< shadowm_rage> okay, I'll release them into the wild
20100801 03:09:39< Gambit> shadowmaster: We have an irc bot that is almost definable as living!
20100801 03:09:53 * shadowm_rage afk
20100801 03:10:02< Gambit> I only need to code a few more things and then janebot will meet the scientific definition of life. :D
20100801 03:10:14< Gambit> (No. Seriously.)
20100801 03:10:34< Espreon> Then I must destroy her immediately!
20100801 03:10:58< Gambit> Espreon: Just wait until I code reproduction ;)
20100801 03:11:13< Espreon> Yup, she must go.
20100801 03:11:21< Gambit> shadowmaster: Speaking of which, when starting a perl script from terminal, is there way to pass it parameters?
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20100801 03:20:55< shadowm_rage> Gambit: foo.pl arg1 arg2 ...
20100801 03:21:13< shadowm_rage> preferably foo.pl has the #!/usr/bin/perl -w  line at the start
20100801 03:21:20< Gambit> shadowm_rage: Well yeah, but how to access those inside?
20100801 03:21:29< shadowm_rage> and it's executable (chmod a+x foo.pl)
20100801 03:21:31< shadowm_rage> Gambit: @ARGV
20100801 03:21:44< shadowm_rage> @_ is @ARGV at the first level
20100801 03:21:47< shadowm_rage> now afk again
20100801 03:21:52< Gambit> Array?
20100801 03:21:58< Gambit> nevermind I'll google it
20100801 03:22:01< Gambit> thank you
20100801 03:22:16< Gambit> You've given me something to search at least
20100801 03:51:01-!- Blueblaze is now known as Blueblaze|SC2
20100801 03:55:10< Gambit> what
20100801 03:55:11< Gambit> the
20100801 03:55:12< Gambit> hell?
20100801 03:55:13< Gambit> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4O0gNlZFymM
20100801 03:55:19< Gambit> I call bullcrap.
20100801 03:55:44< Gambit> I call the biggest bullcrap since bigfoot.
20100801 03:57:39< Gambit> I call such colassal bullcrap that planet earth cannot contain it.
20100801 03:59:53< Gambit> That bullcrap is bigger than PetePorty's mom, and thus our shields cannot contain bullcrap of that magnitude.
20100801 04:00:10< Gambit> Espreon: Is "our x cannot repel y of that magnitude" a meme?
20100801 04:00:13< Gambit> Because it should be.
20100801 04:01:22< Aethaeryn> Gambit: athletes and celebrities pay hundreds, even thousands, for this technology.
20100801 04:01:26< Aethaeryn> You can get 2 for $20
20100801 04:01:43< Aethaeryn> moral of the story...
20100801 04:01:50< Aethaeryn> athletes and celebrities are suckers.
20100801 04:02:05< Aethaeryn> But wait, isn't that the reason you're ordering the thing in the first place, that so many (unnamed) celebrities use it?
20100801 04:02:08< Aethaeryn> uh oh
20100801 04:03:39< Aethaeryn> Gambit: wait, read the comments that got upvoted.
20100801 04:03:50< Aethaeryn> now that there's testimony I take my words back
20100801 04:03:52< Gambit> Aethaeryn: I did. I upped them bost.
20100801 04:03:55< Gambit> *both :)
20100801 04:06:21< Espreon> Gambit: N, sorry.
20100801 04:06:24< Espreon> *No
20100801 04:09:19< Gambit> Espreon: We have to make it one.
20100801 04:09:33< Gambit> Our internets can't repel meme's of this magnitude!
20100801 04:09:54< Espreon> No.
20100801 04:09:54< Aethaeryn> "iRENEW turned my code from VisualBasic into Lisp automatically. Thank you, iRENEW."
20100801 04:10:06 * Espreon LOLs
20100801 04:10:36< Gambit> iRenew... hmmm
20100801 04:10:47< Gambit> I just realized the implications of the "i"
20100801 04:10:50< Gambit> Ha
20100801 04:11:13 * Gambit must share with the mac losers
20100801 04:12:31< Gambit> So from what I can tell; it's a bracelet with a radio transmitter?
20100801 04:12:32< Aethaeryn> (lisp (looks (:different somehow)))
20100801 04:12:37< Aethaeryn> idk, must be an optical illusion
20100801 04:12:50< Gambit> s/tell/understand/
20100801 04:12:57< Gambit> s/it's/it is supposedly/
20100801 04:12:58< Aethaeryn> Gambit: Yes, it's a bracelet with a radio transmitter so They can know where you are
20100801 04:13:14< Gambit> Aethaeryn: No they would never do that!
20100801 04:13:26< Gambit> It emits a special frequency that gives you more energy and balance!
20100801 04:13:53< Aethaeryn> but, it taps into you life energy
20100801 04:14:38< Espreon> "Weird frequencies?
20100801 04:14:44< Espreon> In _my_ life energy?"
20100801 04:15:12< Aethaeryn> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89lan_vital
20100801 04:15:14< Aethaeryn> This is what it uses.
20100801 04:15:16< Gambit> Your life energy can't repel weirdness of that frequency!
20100801 04:15:22< Aethaeryn> Espreon: and yes, that's FRENCH!
20100801 04:15:54< Espreon> Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!
20100801 04:16:21< Gambit> Your eyes can't repel frenchyness of that magnitude!
20100801 04:16:40< Espreon> Nay, thou.
20100801 04:16:55< Aethaeryn> okay, a non French explanation
20100801 04:16:55< Aethaeryn> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qi
20100801 04:16:59< Aethaeryn> there you go
20100801 04:17:07< Gambit> Thy mother!
20100801 04:17:31< Gambit> Espreon: a manga explanation: http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Haki
20100801 04:17:40< Gambit> It's much more betterer.
20100801 04:19:11< Aethaeryn> oooh
20100801 04:19:12< Aethaeryn> Gambit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyGAuXH_h0w&feature=related
20100801 04:19:20< Aethaeryn> this is in the related section
20100801 04:19:41< Gambit> Also: latest geico commercial is awesome
20100801 04:19:58< Gambit> Aethaeryn: Maybe he could pick up a mic for free.
20100801 04:20:11< Aethaeryn> yeah
20100801 04:20:18< Aethaeryn> stopped half way through... sound too unbearable :-P
20100801 04:20:26< Aethaeryn> but that guy is a moron
20100801 04:20:36< Gambit> FREE BREAKFAST!
20100801 04:21:54< Aethaeryn> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F_G2zp-opg&feature=topvideos
20100801 04:21:56< Aethaeryn> Gambit: that one?
20100801 04:22:23< Gambit> Aethaeryn: No the bird in the hand worth two in the bush
20100801 04:22:23< Espreon> Hath anyone verily existed a stone's throw unwavering quite assured to employ thee venture yonder desireth to become appear vastly similar?
20100801 04:22:35< Gambit> Aethaeryn: but that one is good too
20100801 04:22:52< Gambit> Aethaeryn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdfeW2h8Qo4
20100801 04:23:00< Espreon> Gambit: Well?
20100801 04:23:38< Gambit> Espreon: Speak shit.
20100801 04:23:41< Gambit> I don't understand english.
20100801 04:24:10< Espreon> Gambit: It's just the Bayeux Tapestry version of "Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
20100801 04:24:29< Gambit> Espreon: Speak grammatically correct shit now.
20100801 04:25:05< Espreon> It's a meme, silly.
20100801 04:25:50< Espreon> Gambit: Just look at it's ED article.
20100801 04:25:53< Espreon> *its
20100801 04:26:01< Gambit> No
20100801 04:26:14< Espreon> You know what?
20100801 04:26:19< Espreon> Hmmmm...
20100801 04:27:24< Espreon> Screw these neologisms, back to "his".
20100801 04:29:57< Espreon> Ever since I started trying to be normal, this shit happens.
20100801 04:30:20< Espreon> Damn you shadowm_rage / shadowmaster!
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20100801 04:34:14< shadowmaster> Espreon: what?
20100801 04:35:30< shadowmaster> shadowm@bluecore:~$ cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state 
20100801 04:35:30< shadowmaster> present:                 yes
20100801 04:35:30< shadowmaster> capacity state:          ok
20100801 04:35:30< shadowmaster> charging state:          charged
20100801 04:35:30< shadowmaster> present rate:            unknown
20100801 04:35:32< shadowmaster> remaining capacity:      704 mAh
20100801 04:35:35< shadowmaster> present voltage:         12443 mV
20100801 04:35:45< shadowmaster> shadowm@bluecore:~$ cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/info 
20100801 04:35:45< shadowmaster> present:                 yes
20100801 04:35:45< shadowmaster> design capacity:         9000 mAh
20100801 04:35:45< shadowmaster> last full capacity:      704 mAh
20100801 04:35:49< Espreon> Sometime ago you must have said something, and then I made parts of my everyday speech more "normal"... and now this!
20100801 04:35:53< Espreon> Thanks a lot!
20100801 04:38:15< Gambit> shadowmaster: ouch
20100801 04:38:47< Gambit> 7.8% :\
20100801 04:43:25< shadowmaster> well, it's not nine thousand. That's what Linux's ACPI battery module believes for some reason
20100801 04:43:28< shadowmaster> it was 4000.
20100801 04:44:33-!- Blueblaze|SC2 is now known as Blueblaze
20100801 04:44:56< shadowmaster> I'm naturally not happy with 18% of the factory capacity either
20100801 04:47:37< shadowmaster> I just can't wait to send this thing to Tech support.
20100801 04:47:49< shadowmaster> overheating aside, I don't want to give up this laptop.
20100801 04:47:58< shadowmaster> I feel comfortable with it already.
20100801 04:48:29< shadowmaster> I don't want to have to get accostumed to another keyboard layout, hardware configuration, USB ports arrangement, screen technology...
20100801 04:48:55< shadowmaster> touchpad design too.
20100801 04:49:00< shadowmaster> can't forget the touchpad.
20100801 04:49:12< shadowmaster> it's much more comfortble than greycore's, for example
20100801 04:49:30< shadowmaster> so I must have that hard disk.
20100801 04:49:33< shadowmaster> nau..
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20100801 05:11:00< shadowmaster> Espreon: take a look at this http://forums.wesnoth.org/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=122941
20100801 05:11:17< shadowmaster> I'm trying to understand what's up with it.
20100801 05:12:06< shadowmaster> I kind of miss the people with whom I could talk about the forums before.
20100801 05:12:10< shadowmaster> Turuk, who left.
20100801 05:12:19< shadowmaster> Gambit, who goes to bed early.
20100801 05:12:24< Espreon> Meh, IDK....
20100801 05:12:29< shadowmaster> Aethaeryn, who died.
20100801 05:12:32< Espreon> Something about midgets...
20100801 05:12:35< shadowmaster> RIP.
20100801 05:12:36< Valkier> I'm still around!
20100801 05:12:40< Espreon> No, Aethaeryn's alive.
20100801 05:12:42< shadowmaster> Espreon: enanos == dwarves
20100801 05:12:46< Espreon> Whatever.
20100801 05:13:24< shadowmaster> I understand. We all feel Aethaeryn's presence from time to time.
20100801 05:13:29 * Aethaeryn 
20100801 05:13:37< shadowmaster> there it goes again.
20100801 05:13:40< shadowmaster> ;(
20100801 05:13:59< shadowmaster> there used to be someone else whose username I can't remember.
20100801 05:14:22< Espreon> Oh, what did he do?
20100801 05:14:58< shadowmaster> 23:12:06 <shadowmaster> I kind of miss the people with whom I could talk about the forums before.
20100801 05:15:14< shadowmaster> so I guess I talked about the forums with that person.
20100801 05:15:16< shadowmaster> whoever it was.
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20100801 05:25:03< shadowmaster> okay people, this is it.
20100801 05:25:14< shadowmaster> we are going back into the cynicist end of the sliding scale of idealism versus cynicism.
20100801 05:25:17< shadowmaster> and that bad.
20100801 05:25:25< shadowmaster> that's.
20100801 05:25:39< Valkier> Oh thank god.
20100801 05:25:46< shadowmaster> no, that's bad
20100801 05:25:46< Valkier> I was worried we were having fun or something.
20100801 05:26:26< shadowmaster> I think it's because I haven't produced much creative output here lately
20100801 05:26:47< Valkier> Really? Naw...
20100801 05:27:12< shadowmaster> and because we have Valkier in the channel.
20100801 05:27:25< shadowmaster> everyone who wants him to be sent to a darker place, raise your hand.
20100801 05:27:26< Valkier> You're the one who just announced you want us to be cynical. :-P
20100801 05:27:37< shadowmaster> Valkier: no, I don't want that.
20100801 05:27:39< Valkier> I was doing my part.
20100801 05:27:43< shadowmaster> I said it's bad.
20100801 05:27:51< Valkier> oooh
20100801 05:28:02< Valkier> I thought you meant that as "This is what I want us to do."
20100801 05:28:04< shadowmaster> we need to go back to the opposite end of the scale, where idealism saves the world or something.
20100801 05:28:11< Valkier> In that case, I have no idea what you're going on about.
20100801 05:28:38< shadowmaster> we need to be happy people
20100801 05:28:43< shadowmaster> we need moar creative output
20100801 05:28:45< Valkier> I'm happy.
20100801 05:28:55< Valkier> And when I'm sad, I stop being sad and start being awesome.
20100801 05:29:11< shadowmaster> so you aren't sad ever.
20100801 05:29:16< Valkier> Nope.
20100801 05:29:37< shadowmaster> so you never stop being said or start being awesome because you aren't sad in the first place.
20100801 05:29:46< shadowmaster> so you aren't ever awesome.
20100801 05:29:52< Valkier> Not true.
20100801 05:30:06< shadowmaster> you can't deny my sound logic.
20100801 05:30:07< Valkier> Because at some point I start out sad, but I end up being awesome.
20100801 05:30:44< Valkier> Your logic would mean that a car never stops moving once it starts.
20100801 05:30:48< Valkier> And that makes no sense.
20100801 05:31:23< shadowmaster> your lack of comedic appreciation disappoints.
20100801 05:31:31< Valkier> You can't
20100801 05:31:34< Valkier> I am football team.
20100801 05:32:00< Espreon> LOL, wut?
20100801 05:32:03< shadowmaster> you know I was trying to lead into
20100801 05:32:05< shadowmaster> People, we have...a TROPE!
20100801 05:32:07< shadowmaster> http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/YouFailLogicForever
20100801 05:32:21< Valkier> Tropes are older than the internet.
20100801 05:32:22< Valkier> Good game.
20100801 05:33:12< shadowmaster> I like to see how people really believe I'm stupid when I'm just faking it
20100801 05:33:50< shadowmaster> the sad thing is that some people really get to conclusions like the above :(
20100801 05:33:55< shadowmaster> and don't notice that they are wrong.
20100801 05:42:05< Espreon> shadowmaster: I'm almost done with my map.
20100801 05:42:25< Valkier> shadowmaster: I'm almost done drawing Morvin
20100801 05:45:01<+CIA-36> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7507 /trunk/The_Silver_Lands/maps/03_Blood_Mist_Forest.map: TSL: 'finished' scenario three's map.
20100801 05:45:05< Espreon> Yayz...
20100801 05:45:13< Espreon> Aethaeryn: Would you please take a look at it?
20100801 05:53:23< Espreon> "The filter/check plugin 'python-encoding' could not be found, still continue saving of /home/espreon/wesnoth/utils/pofix.py" ... Lovely.
20100801 05:53:50< Espreon> Well, I wanted to use KDE 4.5 RC 3 and this is what I got.
20100801 05:53:53< Espreon> No going back.
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20100801 06:03:59< shadowmaster> wtf. IE 6 reminds me about IE 8's existence whenever I run it
20100801 06:04:19< shadowmaster> if this really worked like this for other people there wouldn't be things like ie6nomore.com
20100801 06:11:39< Valkier> http://forums.wesnoth.org/download/file.php?id=43899
20100801 06:11:44< Valkier> Heeeeeere's Morvin!
20100801 06:13:41< shadowmaster> good
20100801 06:13:49< Aethaeryn> lol
20100801 06:13:54< Aethaeryn> apparently this crashes IE 6 badly:
20100801 06:14:26< Aethaeryn> hrmmm, link broken
20100801 06:14:27< Aethaeryn> http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:1tdYWf6w6AUJ:immike.net/blog/2007/08/06/single-line-of-html-crashes-ie-6/+ie+6+crash&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
20100801 06:18:09< Aethaeryn> haha
20100801 06:18:10< Aethaeryn> http://www.crashie.com/
20100801 06:19:46< shadowmaster> Aethaeryn: confirmed on WINE
20100801 06:20:31< shadowmaster> awesome find
20100801 06:20:55< Aethaeryn> A little less elegant of a one-liner than the first link, but this one actually runs :-P
20100801 06:21:13< Aethaeryn> the good thing about a browser almost a decade old is that there's more than one unpatched bug that you can crash it with :-P
20100801 06:22:34< shadowmaster> in other news, I am trying to figure out why my newer mdofications to my website's front page render horribly on IE 6
20100801 06:22:50< shadowmaster> no, "IE 6 sucks" is not a valid answer. 
20100801 06:22:57< Aethaeryn> <script>for(x in document.write){document.write(x);}</script><input type crash> 
20100801 06:23:08< Aethaeryn> that's what they use in the website first line
20100801 06:23:26< Aethaeryn> apparently the <script> bit is for IE 7 and the <input type crash> for IE 6 and below
20100801 06:23:37< Aethaeryn> yes, three words can crash IE 6 :-P
20100801 06:25:06< Aethaeryn> and they say that in the text, I didn't need to dig through the source :/
20100801 06:28:53< esr> You mean your blog?
20100801 06:33:05< shadowmaster> hm?
20100801 06:33:25< esr> Sorry, wrong channel.
20100801 06:33:27< shadowmaster> Aethaeryn: you have a blog?
20100801 06:33:32< shadowmaster> ah.
20100801 06:33:33< shadowmaster> :P
20100801 06:33:56< Aethaeryn> I don't want to blog.
20100801 06:34:20< Espreon> Same here.
20100801 06:34:20< shadowmaster> your loss. You seem to have lots of opinions we don't want toread.
20100801 06:34:31< shadowmaster> :P
20100801 06:34:42< Aethaeryn> Ideas are controversial. I need to be uncontroversial.
20100801 06:34:51< shadowmaster> you fail at that.
20100801 06:35:01< shadowmaster> you talk about controversial stuff on IRC.
20100801 06:35:01< Aethaeryn> Published blogs are just begging someone to disagree with me.
20100801 06:35:23< shadowmaster> talking about things such as "Linux vs. Windows" is just begging someone to disagree with you.
20100801 06:35:36< shadowmaster> and you do that on IRC often ;)
20100801 06:35:54< Aethaeryn> Well, people are morons.
20100801 06:36:13< shadowmaster> yeah, but what about your plans to be uncontroversial?
20100801 06:36:17< Aethaeryn> Just look at a normal distribution. You do *NOT* want to agree with the majority.
20100801 06:36:37< shadowmaster> wait. You are dead.
20100801 06:36:46< Aethaeryn> ?
20100801 06:36:46< shadowmaster> I'm talking to Aethaeryn's ghost.
20100801 06:36:56< Aethaeryn> oh
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20100801 06:37:33< shadowmaster> what is the majority's opinion anyway?
20100801 06:37:38< shadowmaster> hm.
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20100801 06:38:23< Aethaeryn> Oh wow. Who would've guessed? I *am* a ghost.
20100801 06:38:32< Espreon> Cool story, bro.
20100801 06:38:41< Aethaeryn> Got ghosted and all
20100801 06:38:44< shadowmaster> so
20100801 06:38:49< shadowmaster> what is the majority's opinion?
20100801 06:38:49< Espreon> Ah, I see.
20100801 06:38:57< shadowmaster> on what, for that matter...
20100801 06:39:02< Espreon> Probably something about Cthulhu being awesome.
20100801 06:39:16< Aethaeryn> depends on the subject
20100801 06:39:26< Aethaeryn> but they're typically irrational, uniformed, emotional, illogical, and wrong.
20100801 06:39:29< shadowmaster> Aethaeryn: you tell me. I missed it. :P
20100801 06:39:41< shadowmaster> I'm not sure if you meant distribution of people, or distribution of software.
20100801 06:39:42< Aethaeryn> Though, being normal probably does keep you happy.
20100801 06:39:45< Aethaeryn> oh
20100801 06:39:45< Aethaeryn> people
20100801 06:39:56< Aethaeryn> I'm arguing here that "normal" isn't a desirable trait.
20100801 06:40:03< shadowmaster> yeah.
20100801 06:40:33< shadowmaster> I want to take your quote out of context.
20100801 06:40:40< shadowmaster> 00:38:49 <shadowmaster> what is the majority's opinion?
20100801 06:40:43< shadowmaster> [...]
20100801 06:40:47< shadowmaster> 00:39:26 <Aethaeryn> but they're typically irrational, uniformed, emotional, illogical, and wrong.
20100801 06:41:00< Aethaeryn> ok, it's true.
20100801 06:41:08< shadowmaster> sure
20100801 06:41:16< shadowmaster> but it looks just so funny when taken out of context
20100801 06:41:25< Aethaeryn> just look at so many things that in hindsight seem shocking
20100801 06:41:40< Aethaeryn> but they were at least tacitly approved by the majority\
20100801 06:42:09< Aethaeryn> look at all the bubbles and frenzies...
20100801 06:42:16< Aethaeryn> even look at harmless fads and fashions that now seem ridiculous.
20100801 06:42:33< Espreon> Such as? (Yes, I'm this oblivious)
20100801 06:42:45< Aethaeryn> Espreon: Google image search anything from the 70s.
20100801 06:42:48< Aethaeryn> They all look ridiculous :-P
20100801 06:42:58< Aethaeryn> bubbles, that's easy.
20100801 06:43:02< Aethaeryn> Wikipedia that.
20100801 06:43:12< Aethaeryn> Anything from tulipmania to the more recent Internet and real estate ones.
20100801 06:43:22< Aethaeryn> also, study how cults function.
20100801 06:43:24< shadowmaster> All hands to level 1 battle stations
20100801 06:43:34< Espreon> Aethaeryn: Ah, just fads in general.
20100801 06:43:36< shadowmaster> The anti-hippies alarm was triggered.
20100801 06:43:36< Espreon> OK.
20100801 06:58:20< shadowmaster> http://shadowm.rewound.net/index.php
20100801 06:58:50< Aethaeryn> did you add the ie-crash line of code?
20100801 06:59:05< shadowmaster> no
20100801 06:59:08< Aethaeryn> :-(
20100801 06:59:18< shadowmaster> although I added "This site won't work properly with IE 6 or earlier.
20100801 06:59:36< shadowmaster> for IE 5 and IE 6, which are the ones that recognize IE conditionals
20100801 06:59:51< shadowmaster> the site looks like an unrecognizable mess on IE 4.x and earlier
20100801 06:59:59< Aethaeryn> Do you get many IE 6 visitors?
20100801 07:00:08< shadowmaster> no idea
20100801 07:00:21< shadowmaster> I don't think the statistics plugin I'm using tracks UA strings
20100801 07:00:55< shadowmaster> I'm seeing a brazilian host using IE 6
20100801 07:01:14< shadowmaster> multiple, actually
20100801 07:01:20< shadowmaster> they night as well be spambots
20100801 07:01:21< shadowmaster> might
20100801 07:01:53< shadowmaster> some other host Windows 98, using IE 6
20100801 07:02:19< shadowmaster> somehow I havve 23 referrer instances of forums.debian.net
20100801 07:02:21< shadowmaster> that's interesting
20100801 07:03:05< shadowmaster> LOL
20100801 07:03:10< shadowmaster> Aethaeryn, Espreon : http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=305862#p305862
20100801 07:04:11 * Espreon wants to read "The Dunwich Horror"...
20100801 07:04:20< Aethaeryn> read it
20100801 07:04:24< Aethaeryn> was better than the syfy movie.
20100801 07:04:29< Aethaeryn> in fact, nothing like the syfy movie.
20100801 07:04:32< Aethaeryn> syfy is crap.
20100801 07:04:37< Espreon> Who said I wanted to watch the movie that's hardly like the story?
20100801 07:05:12< Aethaeryn> but yeah...
20100801 07:05:13< Espreon> ... and yes, for some reason, I'm more interested in Yog-Sothoth than Cthulhu.
20100801 07:05:44< Aethaeryn> http://www.gutenberg.net.au/plusfifty-a-m.html#lovecraft
20100801 07:05:48< Aethaeryn> Espreon: one big file of "collected stories"
20100801 07:05:56< shadowmaster> gah, screw this
20100801 07:05:56< Aethaeryn> should be most of the early ones.
20100801 07:06:01< shadowmaster> I can't use vim over a slow SSH link
20100801 07:06:11< Aethaeryn> I hope they're legal, if not blame Wikipedia for telling me about it a year ago when I read them.
20100801 07:06:24< Aethaeryn> that's where I found the link
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20100801 07:06:32< shadowmaster> Aethaeryn: I believe the Project Gutenberg publishes stuff that in PD status in most countries
20100801 07:06:43< shadowmaster> where PD is Public Domain
20100801 07:07:06< Aethaeryn> ah, okay
20100801 07:07:16< shadowmaster> notice the front page
20100801 07:07:18< shadowmaster> "These free ebooks or etexts may be read on a computer using a simple text editor or viewer. The books are in the 'public domain' in Australia and all have been prepared by volunteers. Read about the background to PG. and read about ebook readers and ways to read the free ebooks available from this site."
20100801 07:07:27< Aethaeryn> Espreon: well, there, that's how I read Dunwich Horror as well as a bunch of other ones.
20100801 07:07:30< Aethaeryn> Didn't get too far in 
20100801 07:07:31< Aethaeryn> There's a lot
20100801 07:07:50< Espreon> Aethaeryn: Cool, thanks.
20100801 07:07:57< Espreon> Aethaeryn: Anyway, how do you like mah map?
20100801 07:08:03< Aethaeryn> oh
20100801 07:08:11< Aethaeryn> I was too busy debating Blueblaze in #wesnoth-music
20100801 07:08:34< Aethaeryn> About how in terms of total long-run average happiness, it's better to delay gratification by not dating and instead focusing solely on studies.
20100801 07:09:28< Aethaeryn> And he's all irrational like "it's okay to be poor and be in love" and I reply "Yeah, but you'll never cease being poor if you don't work hard, lol."
20100801 07:09:50< Espreon> Well, that depends.
20100801 07:09:53< Aethaeryn> Now, there's only one flaw in my argument, and that is if you can find someone to date who is such a positive influence that they actually improve your GPA.
20100801 07:10:16< Aethaeryn> While at the same time demanding no material things since you can't work a job for cash since you need to put 100% into school.
20100801 07:10:23< Espreon> If one and his partner do not wish to live as parts of society, yeahz...
20100801 07:11:07< Aethaeryn> If you want to leave society, get a ton of credit card debt, declare bankruptcy, and then leave society *after* having a damn good time.
20100801 07:11:23< Valkier> Or
20100801 07:11:26< Valkier> Kill everyone.
20100801 07:11:31< Espreon> Aethaeryn: Heh... yeah...
20100801 07:12:01< Aethaeryn> Credit score doesn't matter if you're leaving the consumerist society.
20100801 07:12:11< Espreon> Leave society with a boom!
20100801 07:12:36< Espreon> Take down some companies and fuck everyone else up! YES! LOL.
20100801 07:12:36< Aethaeryn> Valkier: Do you disagree with my thesis, though?
20100801 07:12:47< Valkier> Yes
20100801 07:12:52< Aethaeryn> 01:09:02 < Aethaeryn> About how in terms of total long-run average happiness, it's better to delay gratification by not dating and instead focusing solely on studies.
20100801 07:12:56< Aethaeryn> This thesis?
20100801 07:13:09< Valkier> oh, that one.
20100801 07:13:10< Valkier> Nope.
20100801 07:13:29< Aethaeryn> k
20100801 07:13:42< Valkier> Though I'd change it to making sutdies the priority.
20100801 07:13:50< Valkier> Nothing wrong with a little fun now and then.
20100801 07:13:54< Aethaeryn> well, clearly I'm not studying right now.
20100801 07:14:01< Aethaeryn> I meant focusing primarily or something.
20100801 07:14:06< Aethaeryn> Everyone has to have a first-priority.
20100801 07:14:19< Aethaeryn> Where if you have a conflict of interest, you choose the first priority
20100801 07:14:57< Aethaeryn> brb
20100801 07:16:55< Aethaeryn> Besides, who needs a girlfriend when you have cats?
20100801 07:17:00< Valkier> ...
20100801 07:17:10< Valkier> You will die a virgin.
20100801 07:17:16< Aethaeryn> Sorry, I could not resist that comment.
20100801 07:17:27< Aethaeryn> I now know why trolls troll. It's immensely gratifying.
20100801 07:17:55< Valkier> But do you know who put the ram in the rama lama ding dong?
20100801 07:17:56< Espreon> Well... duh!
20100801 07:18:13< Aethaeryn> Valkier: Well, I did install RAM on the motherboard of the computer I built.
20100801 07:18:31< Aethaeryn> It was harder than it looked because you really had to force it in, I was afraid I might break it
20100801 07:18:35< Aethaeryn> The CPU was a harder fit though
20100801 07:18:59< shadowmaster> and what the hell is wrong with being virgin?
20100801 07:19:11< shadowmaster> oh right
20100801 07:19:15< shadowmaster> People, we have...a TROPE!
20100801 07:19:16< shadowmaster> http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AManIsNotAVirgin
20100801 07:19:22< Aethaeryn> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_Galactic
20100801 07:19:31< Aethaeryn> ^ Nothing is wrong with Virgin.
20100801 07:19:35< Espreon> shadowmaster: Why do I tolerate this?
20100801 07:19:46< shadowmaster> Espreon: Valkier ?
20100801 07:19:49< shadowmaster> dunno
20100801 07:19:58< Aethaeryn> shadowmaster: Personally, I define adulthood based on rationality and critical thinking.
20100801 07:20:01< Valkier> I don't know why you guys tolerate me either.
20100801 07:20:05< Aethaeryn> Therefore, I find that at least 90% of people never become adults.
20100801 07:20:14< shadowmaster> Espreon: if someone bothers you, quiet them
20100801 07:20:24< shadowmaster> /msg chanserv quiet #wesnoth-umc-dev Person
20100801 07:20:28< Valkier> Aethaeryn: You are obviously too judgemental to be a mature individual, and therefore will never be an adult either.
20100801 07:20:33< Espreon> shadowmaster: No, I meant you declaring that we have X trope.
20100801 07:20:47< shadowmaster> Espreon: because it's a running gag.
20100801 07:20:57< shadowmaster> you need a sense of comedy.
20100801 07:21:06< shadowmaster> you spend too much time on drama.
20100801 07:21:23< shadowmaster> got it? drama. Encyclopædia Dramatica.
20100801 07:21:28< Espreon> Yeah...
20100801 07:21:40< shadowmaster> okay, that was a horribly lame pun.
20100801 07:21:41< shadowmaster> feel free to shoot me
20100801 07:21:50 * Valkier loads the gun
20100801 07:21:57< shadowmaster> Valkier: not you.
20100801 07:22:17< Valkier> I'll carry this bullet for you just a little longer...
20100801 07:22:22< Espreon> shadowmaster: May I impale thee through thy stomach?
20100801 07:22:24< Valkier> But sooner or later, it will come to you.
20100801 07:22:29< Espreon> ... instead?
20100801 07:22:31< shadowmaster> Espreon: nay.
20100801 07:22:58< Aethaeryn> Note that the term "virgin" originally meant "a female who has not had sex with a man", and thus literally no male was ever a virgin- which sort of underscores the trope. The definition became more vague as language evolved. 
20100801 07:23:02< Aethaeryn> Haha, TV Trops
20100801 07:23:08< Espreon> shadowmaster: Screw thee!
20100801 07:23:13< shadowmaster> Valkier: keep the bullet. You might need it.
20100801 07:23:23< Valkier> For ZOMBIES!
20100801 07:23:30< shadowmaster> no.
20100801 07:23:32< Valkier> Zombie apocalypse, guys! It's coming!
20100801 07:23:37< shadowmaster> for your sanity.
20100801 07:23:38< Valkier> Oh hell yes it is Mr. Linux.
20100801 07:24:02< Aethaeryn> < Valkier> Aethaeryn: You are obviously too judgemental to be a mature individual, and therefore will never be an adult either. <- Hahaha, what do you know about maturity? 
20100801 07:24:03< Valkier> When all of us windows users band together to wipe out the mob of zombies, we will look down upon you.
20100801 07:24:21< shadowmaster> Espreon: why do we tolerate this? :(
20100801 07:24:27< Valkier> Aethaeryn: I'm am far too mature to feel the need to respond to that.
20100801 07:24:30< Espreon> Valkier: Not if I smite all of you first!
20100801 07:24:43< Espreon> shadowmaster: I don't know.
20100801 07:25:10< Valkier> Espreon: Pfft. A gun made by linux: Bullets, grip, and barrel. Where's the hammer you may ask? It will be added on later, but in turn the barrel will break.
20100801 07:25:30< Valkier> At that point, you will decide the barrell wasn't needed anyhow and have a half made gun.
20100801 07:26:13< Espreon> Valkier: No, I meant with the legendary Ward Ettin who is destined to save the world from faggotry.
20100801 07:26:35< Valkier> Meanwhile, some other jackwagon will make the same gun, only put a red stripe on it. They will call this a brand new kind of gun and it too will never function like a gun made by windows. Operative word here being FUNCTION.
20100801 07:27:01< shadowmaster> Espreon: we lost Valkier.
20100801 07:27:12< shadowmaster> he's just spurting nonsense.
20100801 07:27:19< Valkier> Espreon: That'
20100801 07:27:23< Valkier> That's Tom Cruise. Duh.
20100801 07:27:24< Espreon> Poor Valkier... he used to be a pretty cool guy.
20100801 07:27:31< Espreon> Valkier: What?
20100801 07:27:40< Valkier> Tom Cruise saves the world from faggotry.
20100801 07:27:45< Valkier> He's the only one who knows how to help.
20100801 07:27:46< Espreon> No he doesn't!
20100801 07:27:48< Valkier> Don't you remember?
20100801 07:27:50< shadowmaster> he was a pretty cool guy when he had a post count of 2 or so.
20100801 07:28:10< shadowmaster> then he...changed.
20100801 07:28:13< Valkier> shadowmaster: You were never cool. I still have some over you.
20100801 07:28:13< Espreon> shadowmaster: No, he was a pretty cool guy Last Thursday!
20100801 07:28:30< shadowmaster> Valkier: I have never pretended to be cool.
20100801 07:28:41< shadowmaster> nor intended.
20100801 07:28:48< Valkier> shadowmaster: That's because you can't. I am football team.
20100801 07:29:12< shadowmaster> Espreon: use the power of QUIET. You know you want to.
20100801 07:29:31< Aethaeryn> < Valkier> Aethaeryn: I'm am far too mature to feel the need to respond to that. <- But you responded. haha, trapped!
20100801 07:29:33< Valkier> Espreon loves me, but only for my body.
20100801 07:29:46< Valkier> Aethaeryn: No u.
20100801 07:29:55< Espreon> Valkier: If anything, that would be you.
20100801 07:30:07< Valkier> I only love me for my body
20100801 07:30:07< Valkier> ?
20100801 07:30:15< Espreon> Sure, why not?
20100801 07:30:24< Valkier> Makes sense.
20100801 07:30:32< Aethaeryn> Valkier: anyway, I don't get why a cultural rite of passage has to be set at something that most animals can do... and not something higher and more civilized, like, say, calc II
20100801 07:30:39< Aethaeryn> "You're not a man until you've passed Calc II!"
20100801 07:31:07< Espreon> Valkier: Jeß jeß! Ze Führer is very happy!
20100801 07:31:21< shadowmaster> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
20100801 07:31:25< shadowmaster> LINGUISTICS
20100801 07:31:29< Espreon> shadowmaster: No.
20100801 07:31:29 * shadowmaster RUNS LIKE HELL
20100801 07:31:52< Espreon> shadowmaster: I side with my German.... side... so I'm allowed to do that.
20100801 07:32:05< Valkier> Aethaeryn: Fuck your own face. That is all.
20100801 07:32:06< shadowmaster> hail em-dash!
20100801 07:32:25< Espreon> Jeß jeß!
20100801 07:32:39< Aethaeryn> Valkier: no u
20100801 07:32:45< Valkier> Oh snap
20100801 07:32:52< Aethaeryn> You're not a man until you've passed Calc II!
20100801 07:32:59< Valkier> You're not a man.
20100801 07:33:03< Aethaeryn> k
20100801 07:33:10< shadowmaster> Tonight in Shadowmaster’s Believe It Or Not...
20100801 07:33:18< Aethaeryn> no, I'm turning 20 in a few weeks
20100801 07:33:24< Valkier> Pfft.
20100801 07:33:26< Aethaeryn> so yeah, I'm a little more than a year from being a full adult.
20100801 07:33:27< Valkier> I turn 24 next month.
20100801 07:33:31< Aethaeryn> Valkier: so yes, you're correct
20100801 07:33:35< shadowmaster> Valkier being a jerk.
20100801 07:33:47< Valkier> shadowmaster: I don't believe it.,
20100801 07:34:00< Valkier> Did you go and look at the outline of Morvin yet!?
20100801 07:34:02< Valkier> DID YOU?!
20100801 07:34:07< shadowmaster> yes
20100801 07:34:09< Valkier> kk
20100801 07:34:12< Espreon> Anutai... Fagaturi... Burasuto!
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20100801 07:34:18< shadowmaster> that's why I'm disappoint
20100801 07:34:27< shadowmaster> your art is good, but your words aren't.
20100801 07:34:30< shadowmaster> :(
20100801 07:35:16< Espreon> The faggot... has been smitten...™ (Yes, when I say "faggot", I mean "idiot")
20100801 07:35:34< Aethaeryn> shadowmaster: well, we're all odd in some manner
20100801 07:35:37< shadowmaster> Aethaeryn: don't worry, for us you'll always be a ghostly man.
20100801 07:35:40< shadowmaster> wait, that's not right.
20100801 07:35:43< Aethaeryn> otherwise we would have never been introverted enough to persue talent.
20100801 07:36:01< shadowmaster> for us you'll always be a manly ghost.
20100801 07:36:07< shadowmaster> hm, not right either.
20100801 07:37:12< Espreon> So, children, what do you think of my new attack?
20100801 07:37:31< shadowmaster> just as long as you don't use it on me
20100801 07:37:37< shadowmaster> nice :)
20100801 07:37:50< Espreon> shadowmaster: Why would I do that?
20100801 07:38:01< shadowmaster> insert random reason here
20100801 07:38:05 * shadowmaster continues writing blog post
20100801 07:39:06< Espreon> Maybe now, Aethaeryn can look at my awesome map.
20100801 07:39:09< Aethaeryn> what is +q anyway? quiet?
20100801 07:39:10< Espreon> Right Aethaeryn?
20100801 07:39:12< Espreon> Yeah.
20100801 07:39:16< Aethaeryn> ah
20100801 07:39:18< Aethaeryn> oh shit
20100801 07:39:23< Aethaeryn> Valkier is from Pennsylvania
20100801 07:39:29< Aethaeryn> That means he's near me. :o
20100801 07:39:30< shadowmaster> Aethaeryn: yes
20100801 07:39:40< shadowmaster> Aethaeryn: he'll visit you in the night
20100801 07:39:42< Aethaeryn> eh, it could be worse
20100801 07:39:44< shadowmaster> he's after you.
20100801 07:39:46< Aethaeryn> he could be from VIRGINia
20100801 07:39:56< shadowmaster> rofl
20100801 07:40:22< Espreon> Yeah.... like Chris-chan!
20100801 07:46:38< shadowmaster> http://shadowm.rewound.net/blog/archives/85-Battering-power-sources.html
20100801 07:48:15< Espreon> shadowmaster: Really? You had to be on the car?
20100801 07:48:38< shadowmaster> hm, yes
20100801 07:48:47< shadowmaster> well, the car was moving :P
20100801 07:48:55< Espreon> So, you were on top of the car?
20100801 07:49:21< shadowmaster> *grumble*
20100801 07:49:26< shadowmaster> I know, s/on/in/
20100801 07:49:42< Espreon> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/on#Preposition ... all Spanish speakers should look at that picture...
20100801 07:50:08< shadowmaster> ooooh, pics!
20100801 07:50:13< shadowmaster> I like!
20100801 07:50:27< shadowmaster> Espreon: I know, I know. But it's an occasional slip.
20100801 07:50:52< shadowmaster> after all, I was on the rear sit.
20100801 07:50:52< shadowmaster> :D
20100801 07:50:57< shadowmaster> *seat
20100801 07:50:58< shadowmaster> backseat?
20100801 07:51:14< shadowmaster> backseat
20100801 07:51:23< shadowmaster> yes, I was on the car's backseat.
20100801 07:51:34< shadowmaster> well, back seat.
20100801 07:51:57< shadowmaster> meh, whatever, the whitespace isn't pronounced.
20100801 07:52:15 * shadowmaster is hoping to see noy again before going to sleep.
20100801 07:53:02< Espreon> shadowmaster: Meh... http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/backseat
20100801 07:53:29< shadowmaster> common sense rocks
20100801 07:53:52< shadowmaster> do you think Valkier wants to speak?
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20100801 07:54:03<@shadowmaster> Valkier: say yes or no
20100801 07:54:34<@shadowmaster> I'll take that as a no.
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20100801 07:55:17< Aethaeryn> shadowmaster: damn it
20100801 07:55:20< Aethaeryn> I'm still stuck in TV trops
20100801 07:55:21< Aethaeryn> thank you
20100801 07:55:26< shadowmaster> Aethaeryn: tropes.
20100801 07:55:30< Espreon> shadowmaster: Thanks a lot!
20100801 07:55:32< shadowmaster> not trops.
20100801 07:55:34< Aethaeryn> my e muts be semi-stuck or something
20100801 07:55:41< Aethaeryn> this is the second time it wouldn't press
20100801 07:55:47< shadowmaster> muts?
20100801 07:56:00< Aethaeryn> 01:19:45 < shadowmaster> http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AManIsNotAVirgin
20100801 07:56:03< Aethaeryn> anyway, been stuck since then
20100801 07:56:08< Aethaeryn> am on http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CutLexLuthorACheck
20100801 07:56:26< shadowmaster> as long as you don't get stuck on ED, good
20100801 07:56:29< Espreon> shadowmaster: STOP LINKING... TO TV TROPES!
20100801 07:56:44< Espreon> Do I link to ED? No.
20100801 07:57:46< shadowmaster> Espreon: I...WON'T.
20100801 07:57:56< shadowmaster> RUNNING...GAG!
20100801 07:58:21< Espreon> shadowmaster: Thanks to you, Aethaeryn's not looking at my map!
20100801 07:58:30< shadowmaster> THIS. IS. WESNOTH-UMC-DEV!
20100801 07:58:34< Espreon> I could have been working on scenario three's WML by now!
20100801 07:58:42< Espreon> shadowmaster: You're holding up TSL development!
20100801 07:59:03< shadowmaster> k
20100801 07:59:20< shadowmaster> comedy is more important.
20100801 07:59:47< Espreon> No, it isn't!
20100801 08:00:56< Espreon> shadowmaster: Do you think that I think that this is funny?
20100801 08:01:12< shadowmaster> no
20100801 08:01:19< shadowmaster> but you need to learn to so self-criticism
20100801 08:01:27< shadowmaster> I guess you didn't read my post to WOodmouse?
20100801 08:01:46< shadowmaster> just replace instances of the similars of "art" with "map" and you have exactly what you need to learn.
20100801 08:02:16< shadowmaster> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=446498#p446498
20100801 08:02:24< Espreon> shadowmaster: I'm happy with my map! I just want the opinion of an expert.
20100801 08:02:35< shadowmaster> you don't need experts then
20100801 08:02:54< Espreon> Uh... but... I... um... need to... ensure... that... yeahz...
20100801 08:04:01< shadowmaster> I need noy.
20100801 08:04:05< shadowmaster> nau.
20100801 08:05:11< shadowmaster> wesbot: seen noy
20100801 08:05:12<+wesbot> shadowmaster: The person with the nick noy last spoke 11h 23m ago.  9h 40m ago was here and on the channels #wesnoth and #wesnoth-dev with the message: Quit: noy
20100801 08:05:24< shadowmaster> I hope this is enough so he can know I was around
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20100801 08:18:53< Aethaeryn> Espreon: very nice map, but how can water/blood transition like that?
20100801 08:19:15< Aethaeryn> you definitely outdo most of mainline campaigns.
20100801 08:19:59< Aethaeryn> very well done
20100801 08:21:11< Espreon> Aethaeryn: Meh, we'd need to wait for rhyging to make better water transitions.
20100801 08:21:14< Espreon> Thanks.
20100801 08:21:28< Aethaeryn> the blood area kinda doesn't make sense
20100801 08:21:30< Aethaeryn> idk why
20100801 08:21:32< Aethaeryn> maybe transitions
20100801 08:21:38< Espreon> shadowmaster: LOL at Bleach for «Hueco Mundo».
20100801 08:21:39< Aethaeryn> but the rest of the map is very excellent
20100801 08:21:45< Aethaeryn> of course, you get an unfair advantage
20100801 08:21:48< Aethaeryn> your flat actually looks good
20100801 08:21:58< Aethaeryn> most people still using 1.8... poor souls
20100801 08:22:11< Espreon> Indeed.
20100801 08:22:22< Espreon> Aethaeryn: Thank you very much.
20100801 08:22:22< Aethaeryn> I like how the blood is animated.
20100801 08:22:26< Aethaeryn> it is, isn't it? not an illusion?
20100801 08:22:31< Espreon> It is.
20100801 08:22:34< Aethaeryn> haha
20100801 08:22:53< Aethaeryn> I need to (ab)use the new terrains in Underlands
20100801 08:23:13< Espreon> I also have stagnant blood, but... I'd prefer not to use that till I can just have stagnant blood that's just sitting on whatever rather than being in a carved out piece of land.
20100801 08:24:40< Aethaeryn> hmmm
20100801 08:24:51< Espreon> shadowmaster: Yes, it would seem that "Bleach"'s author has a thing for Spanish.
20100801 08:25:10< Espreon> "Hollows and arrancar use Spanish terms. Kubo became interested in Spanish because, to him, the language sounded 'bewitching' and 'mellow'."
20100801 08:26:47< Espreon> Aethaeryn: If you were curious about that bloody lake, the blood is being produced by a cursed statue.
20100801 08:27:19< Aethaeryn> cool
20100801 08:29:56< Espreon> Also, if you were wondering why the blood isn't spreading to the other bodies of water, it's that the lake is being fed by the river, so the currents... yeahz...
20100801 08:30:12< Aethaeryn> right
20100801 08:30:22< Aethaeryn> I figured after studying it that they were DOWNstream.
20100801 08:30:34< Aethaeryn> should still have a murky mix at some point
20100801 08:30:38< Aethaeryn> not just a cutoff :-P
20100801 08:31:00< Aethaeryn> but that's not your fault
20100801 08:31:09< Espreon> Heh, yeah.
20100801 08:31:23< Aethaeryn> terrains are getting much better though
20100801 08:38:30< Espreon> Aethaeryn: We haz volcano now.
20100801 08:39:22< Aethaeryn> i saw
20100801 08:39:25< Aethaeryn> pretty cool
20100801 08:39:52< Espreon> Now, if we could get some sakura, that'd be awesome.
20100801 08:40:00< Aethaeryn> need sleep
20100801 08:40:01< Aethaeryn> 'night
20100801 08:40:04< Espreon> Goodnight.
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20100801 08:58:06< Espreon> Hmmmmm?
20100801 09:02:52< shadowmaster> yay, KDE 4.4.5 entered Testing
20100801 09:05:20< shadowmaster> 310 MB total
20100801 09:06:48< Espreon> Pfft...
20100801 09:06:56< Espreon> LOL, KDE 4.4.5.
20100801 09:07:08< Espreon> 4.4.95 is teh shit...
20100801 09:07:53< shadowmaster> I want stable stuff, not experimental crap.
20100801 09:08:07< shadowmaster> what you said earlier implies I don't want to try 4.5
20100801 09:08:12< shadowmaster> RC3
20100801 09:08:43< Espreon> shadowmaster: When talking about my position in the Spanish translation team, would I call my self the «localizador de los imágenes»?
20100801 09:08:46< Espreon> Heh...
20100801 09:09:01< Espreon> Ironically, KDE 4.5's focus is stability.
20100801 09:09:15< Espreon> *on the
20100801 09:09:45< Espreon> *las
20100801 09:09:47< Espreon> Silly me.
20100801 09:09:51< shadowmaster> imagen is a feminine noun, yeah
20100801 09:10:05< shadowmaster> the article is redundant, swo "localizador de imágenes" basta
20100801 09:10:09< shadowmaster> I mean, is enough
20100801 09:10:17< shadowmaster> damn language context switching
20100801 09:10:44 * Espreon cries due to this article business...
20100801 09:11:03< Valkier> Hey, I'm looking at images of gigantic naked men for references.
20100801 09:11:08< Valkier> Do you REALLY wanna complain right now?
20100801 09:11:11< shadowmaster> People, we have...
20100801 09:11:15< Espreon> SHIT!
20100801 09:11:18< shadowmaster> what might be a neuroscience thing
20100801 09:11:27< shadowmaster> Language Context Switching
20100801 09:12:00< shadowmaster> Espreon: ¿qué opinas?
20100801 09:12:14< Espreon> No sé.
20100801 09:12:36< shadowmaster> is this really a complicated phenomenon on its own right, or just a nifty name for a natural process?
20100801 09:13:04< shadowmaster> because really, when there are words of a different language in middle of my speech, I can get stuck talking in that different  language until the end of the sentence
20100801 09:13:14< Espreon> Oh noez...
20100801 09:13:16< shadowmaster> both in written and spoken forms.
20100801 09:15:00< shadowmaster> Espreon: something that really irks me about KDE is that it isn't accessible to newbies
20100801 09:15:06< shadowmaster> due to the lack of updated documentation
20100801 09:15:14< shadowmaster> or documentation at all in some cases
20100801 09:15:14< Espreon> Heh... YEAH!
20100801 09:15:29< shadowmaster> the contextual help entries are missing in most cases
20100801 09:15:31< Espreon> But, who reads that?
20100801 09:15:41< Espreon> (The documentation)
20100801 09:15:55< shadowmaster> 03:15:00 <shadowmaster> Espreon: something that really irks me about KDE is that it isn't accessible to newbies
20100801 09:16:02< shadowmaster> newbies, of course.
20100801 09:16:15< Espreon> No, not really.
20100801 09:16:24< shadowmaster> I did read the KDE 3.4 documentaion back in the day :<
20100801 09:16:46< shadowmaster> also, RTFM or GTFO is a common motto for very good reasons.
20100801 09:16:54< shadowmaster> overused and all, but valid.
20100801 09:17:46< shadowmaster> in other news, something I really like about QtCurve is the new "experimental" ability to toggle menubar visibility with a titlebar button
20100801 09:18:07< shadowmaster> ("experimental" in quotes because it's not crashed here, ever.)
20100801 09:18:26< shadowmaster> it seems to work only with Qt4 applications though.
20100801 09:19:59< shadowmaster> now installing KDE 4.4.5
20100801 09:20:04 * shadowmaster watches packages being unpacked
20100801 09:20:24< Espreon> Hey, when I was preparing to install a Linux disto for the very first time, I was like Amaterasu in "Ōkami", I leapt before thinking (her companion says that she does that; I forgot the exact wording).
20100801 09:20:59< shadowmaster> that's you.
20100801 09:21:05< shadowmaster> the world isn't full of Espreons.
20100801 09:21:06< shadowmaster> or shadowmasters.
20100801 09:21:27< shadowmaster> (i.e. I don't need to read KDE's documentation nowadays, it tends to be intuitive by its own)
20100801 09:21:46< shadowmaster> (it == the user interface)
20100801 09:21:58< shadowmaster> (hey, that's a good thing too, now that I think of it!)
20100801 09:22:26< shadowmaster> (I am using too many parentheses. I fear I'm being converted to LISP or something.)
20100801 09:23:17< Espreon> Hmmmm... note to self: use "lope" and "lopen".
20100801 09:23:27< Espreon> ... instead of "leapt".
20100801 09:23:43< shadowmaster> lopen sounds like an obscure Unix API function name
20100801 09:23:51< shadowmaster> like lseek()
20100801 09:24:16< shadowmaster> reminds me of fopen(), which is less obscure, and portable
20100801 09:24:34< Espreon> Heh...
20100801 09:28:23 * Espreon wishes that "garlic" were "garleek"...
20100801 09:32:07< Espreon> Valkier: Did you ever fix the runic inscription on the hammer?
20100801 09:34:54< Espreon> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=446872#p446872 — Noon itself would care?
20100801 09:39:14< Valkier> Espreon not yet. Been busy getting more important things done.
20100801 09:39:25< Espreon> Hmmmm, I see.
20100801 09:39:43< Valkier> http://forums.wesnoth.org/download/file.php?id=43905
20100801 09:39:46< Valkier> Stalrag is done!
20100801 09:39:58< Espreon> Yay!
20100801 09:41:08< Valkier> I think he came out fairly well.
20100801 09:41:17< Valkier> Which means I only have one more portrait to design!
20100801 09:41:23< Valkier> Then it's nothing but coloring and sex.
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20100801 09:44:17< Espreon> Byez for nowz.
20100801 09:44:23< Valkier> Later
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20100801 14:42:44< Gambit> Yess. Looks like WKUK is finally back to cleverly (and maturely) making fun of people with satiric sketch comedy.
20100801 14:42:59< Gambit> No more of this nonstop vulgarity.
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20100801 14:48:51< Gambit> AWESOME! FINALLY!
20100801 14:49:07< Gambit> Someone is telling off the history channel for all these documentaries on prostitution.
20100801 14:49:38< Gambit> Thank you WKUK.
20100801 14:55:53< timotei> what?
20100801 14:56:41< Gambit> timotei: Lately the history channel has been airing an insane amount of documentaries on prostitution, brothels, and sex. My favorite sketch comedy group finally decided to call them on it ♥
20100801 14:56:52< timotei> oh
20100801 14:56:53< timotei> :))
20100801 14:57:11< Gambit> Other targets this week include: Michael Moore
20100801 14:57:21< Gambit> And the Winsconsin law that makes it legal to hunt stray cats.
20100801 14:57:32< timotei> oh
20100801 14:57:44< Gambit> Oh and those annoying people who write books about how to make money for nothing and advertise them on TV
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20100801 17:02:51< shadowmaster> it's so cold here that the CPU fan is idling most of the time
20100801 17:03:05< shadowmaster> (i.e. stopped)
20100801 17:03:22< shadowmaster> it's so unusual for me to heart the hard disk at work :D
20100801 17:03:35< shadowmaster> hear
20100801 17:08:10 * loonycyborg wishes he could borrow shadowmaster's cold weather.
20100801 17:08:36< loonycyborg> Because I'm being cooked here currently.
20100801 17:08:59< shadowmaster> yeah, I heared of that.
20100801 17:09:02< shadowmaster> ...heard.
20100801 17:09:19< shadowmaster> my English is glitching today.
20100801 17:11:47< loonycyborg> Apparently the world decided to embrace "Convection Schmonvection" trope..
20100801 17:14:18< shadowmaster> I heard the unusually cold weather isn't just affecting Chile, but most of SA
20100801 17:14:43< shadowmaster> at least that the other day.
20100801 17:14:54< shadowmaster> and this would be the coldest year since 1912 for us.
20100801 17:15:19< shadowmaster> whiny crybabies who aren't used to temperatures below 0°C
20100801 17:16:58< loonycyborg> Moscow weather did beat several temperature records from early XX century recently too.
20100801 17:24:57< norbert_> so, forum user Daravel is looking through lots of images and audio and labeling all of them
20100801 17:25:37< norbert_> the idea is to make it easier to add-on devs to search and find whatever they want for their campaigns
20100801 17:25:44< norbert_> to->for
20100801 17:26:28< norbert_> he's currently looking through all files on the 1.2 add-ons server, from a-z and he's at p
20100801 17:26:58< norbert_> I want to help him by coding a PHP front-end
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20100801 17:27:30< norbert_> is there a nice way to incorporate his project into wesnoth.org?
20100801 17:28:14< norbert_> he doesn't have any webspace himself and the images and audio will probably total to about 1 GB
20100801 17:29:18< norbert_> so basically, he'd need some HD space and someone would have to look though and approve what it is I coded for his project
20100801 17:29:54< norbert_> just throwing this information out here, not sure who to talk to
20100801 17:33:58< shadowmaster> I want to write an attachment gallery add-on.
20100801 17:34:01< shadowmaster> that's all I know.
20100801 17:36:12< norbert_> that would display all forum attachments of certain types in gallery form?
20100801 17:36:28< Gambit> shadowmaster: What sort of organization?
20100801 17:36:49< Gambit> User tagging I hope.
20100801 17:36:57< norbert_> either way, it's different from what Daravel is doing
20100801 17:37:06< shadowmaster> Gambit: no, just galery.
20100801 17:37:09< shadowmaster> gallery
20100801 17:37:20< shadowmaster> maybe with tagging. I'm still at the brainstorming phase
20100801 17:42:27< timotei> php function readdir sucks on linux
20100801 17:42:42< timotei> it doesn't return the files in alphabetaicall order like windows would do
20100801 17:47:32< Gambit> shadowmaster: If logged in forum users can't assign tags to pieces, then it won't be of any more use than forum search or random dives into the gallery on the wiki.
20100801 17:49:18< shadowmaster> timotei: never rely on natural sorting for those functions
20100801 17:49:24< shadowmaster> you can sort them yourself if necessary
20100801 17:50:15< Gambit> timotei: try <cfdirectory action="list"> :)
20100801 17:51:01< shadowmaster> Gambit: quit the CF shit.
20100801 17:51:06< Gambit> You can sort by filename, size, date modified...
20100801 17:51:08< shadowmaster> you know better than that
20100801 17:51:17< Gambit> Okay :(
20100801 17:51:20< norbert_> timotei: maybe http://www.cplusplus.com/forum/unices/3548/
20100801 17:53:09< shadowmaster> apparently scandir() from POSIX.1-2008 can do sorting
20100801 17:55:17< timotei> I used asort($array)
20100801 17:55:18< timotei> in the end
20100801 18:16:31< Gambit> ahh neon sign lock http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=446901#p446901
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20100801 21:52:09< Gambit> coding web forms is the new definition of mundane
20100801 21:52:29< Gambit> These people never want anything exciting.
20100801 21:57:08< Espreon> Bah, this sucks...
20100801 21:57:40< Gambit> 9 points of input down... 40 to go
20100801 21:57:42< Gambit> ugh
20100801 21:57:57< Gambit> At least in the middle there's a bunch of non required plain text fields that I don't have to validate.
20100801 21:58:10< Gambit> Espreon: What sucks today?
20100801 21:58:18< Espreon> fendrin's not respondin'.
20100801 21:58:42< Espreon> ... and I don't feel like doing anything till I fix some plans...
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20100801 22:13:49<+CIA-36> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7508 /trunk/The_Silver_Lands/ (17 files in 3 dirs): TSL: added the vampire portraits.
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20100801 22:40:38<+CIA-36> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7509 /branches/resources/images/portraits/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Added the original transparent version of EVILEST's Duchess portrait, which is at a higher resolution.
20100801 22:56:20< Gambit> I will never understand why Crushmaster and HomerJ refuse to use the signature feature.
20100801 22:57:01< Gambit> Actually Crushmaster does use it, but he still manually signs posts...
20100801 22:57:40<+CIA-36> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7510 /branches/resources/images/portraits/ (6 files in 4 dirs): Did some restructuring.
20100801 22:58:02< Espreon> Gambit: Obviously, Uria's not blessing them... especially Crushmaster.
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20100801 23:02:18< Daravel> hey norbert
20100801 23:02:29< norbert_> hi Daravel
20100801 23:03:19< norbert_> you're at p? :)
20100801 23:03:23< norbert_> was it a lot of work?
20100801 23:03:23< Daravel> I am
20100801 23:03:34< Daravel> I became a lot tougher on what I let in
20100801 23:04:15< Daravel> also, figuring that some units got an upgrade, and that I can't be bothered to do mainline stuff (as it will be easier to do seperately anyway) and that if the specific unit you want isn't there - tough
20100801 23:04:37< Daravel> there's enough humans with a sword already ^^
20100801 23:04:45< norbert_> hehe
20100801 23:05:32< Daravel> If I miss anything important, it'll be up to the community to point it out - won't be hard to add a few here and there
20100801 23:06:01< norbert_> true
20100801 23:06:49< Daravel> the real issue is dealing with 1.8 (and new updates) but I have some ideas, and it's a long way off
20100801 23:08:02< norbert_> 5 or so hours ago I wrote in this channel http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/0uSb0je4
20100801 23:08:20< norbert_> didn't really get any useful feedback, so maybe you/we could ask in #wesnoth-dev what's possible
20100801 23:10:01< Daravel> just joined :)
20100801 23:10:21< Daravel> you know more about it than I do, best if you speak?
20100801 23:10:24< norbert_> if you want, you can send the current text file to info@wsrsw.org and I'll take a look
20100801 23:10:37< Daravel> it's also the directory structure
20100801 23:10:50< norbert_> yes, true, but just to take a look
20100801 23:11:02< Daravel> i'd hate for it to be wrong in any way, and have to re-do all of it later on
20100801 23:11:17< Daravel> sure, i'll write up a little guide to what I've done and send it over
20100801 23:13:09<+CIA-36> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7511 / (8 files in 5 dirs): Moved the young female Silver Mage portrait to the resources branch.
20100801 23:17:48<+CIA-36> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7512 /branches/resources/images/portraits/humans/ (2 files): Fixed the name of a file.
20100801 23:27:19< norbert_> Daravel: how much MB are the images a-p of 1.2?
20100801 23:27:41< norbert_> and audio
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20100801 23:29:24< Aethaeryn> Wow. C, C++, Java, Perl, JavaScript, and PHP are all remarkably similar languages.
20100801 23:30:32< Aethaeryn> And Python isn't too different, just in syntax. E.g. indents instead of {
20100801 23:31:24< norbert_> IMO the object oriented languages differ quite a bit from the non-object oriented ones
20100801 23:31:34< loonycyborg> They all seem to be heavily inspired by C :P
20100801 23:31:43< Aethaeryn> loonycyborg: correct. C came first.
20100801 23:31:52<+CIA-36> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7513 /trunk/Era_of_Myths/images/portraits/vampires/ (4 files in 2 dirs): EoM: added the Duchess and Flesh Artisan portraits.
20100801 23:32:15< loonycyborg> If you want to see something different look at Haskell or Lisp.
20100801 23:32:16< Aethaeryn> But C, C++, Java, Perl, Javascript, PHP, and Python all have remarkable similarities when compared to other language types (lisp ((for (((instance)))
20100801 23:32:27< norbert_> Daravel: if it's no too much, we could temporarily use other space somewhere to create a prototype
20100801 23:32:28< Aethaeryn> And these are just the "free" languages.
20100801 23:32:54< Aethaeryn> There's C#, Obj-C, J++, and a ton of other languages that are twisted versions of the above C-like languages.
20100801 23:33:17< Aethaeryn> Kinda like how Mordor twisted outside things for its evil uses. 
20100801 23:33:33< Aethaeryn> If C never existed, languages would look and act in dramatically different ways.
20100801 23:33:40< Aethaeryn> And { and } would get no love
20100801 23:34:34< Aethaeryn> So it actually isn't that hard to know C, C++, Java, Python, Perl, bash, HTML, CSS, JavaScript, and PHP.
20100801 23:34:49< Gambit> Aethaeryn: you left one out there
20100801 23:34:51< Aethaeryn> It would probably be harder to know C, Prolog, Lisp, Ada, and VisualBasic
20100801 23:34:56< Gambit> Two actually.
20100801 23:35:05< Aethaeryn> Gambit: I know there are other languages that are popular.
20100801 23:35:06< Aethaeryn> E.g. Ruby
20100801 23:35:12< Aethaeryn> But they're a little less similar.
20100801 23:35:15< norbert_> but you're now randomly putting languages in a list
20100801 23:35:21< Aethaeryn> norbert_: Exactly.
20100801 23:35:26< norbert_> bash and HTML have little to do with C
20100801 23:35:34< Aethaeryn> well, yeah, but HTML is dead-easy
20100801 23:35:42< Aethaeryn> JavaScript and PHP are kinda useless without HTML anyway
20100801 23:36:02< norbert_> Aethaeryn: do you know the term "LAMP"?
20100801 23:36:04< Daravel> norbert, that's not a problem - it would have just been 'better' to go straight to wesnoth.org. I'm fine with grabbing some space somewhere
20100801 23:36:06< Gambit> And CSS obsoltifies half of HTML
20100801 23:36:12< Gambit> norbert_: pffft
20100801 23:36:14< Aethaeryn> norbert_: Linux Apache MySQL, PHP/Python/Perl
20100801 23:36:20< Gambit> norbert_: LAMPPCs are all the rage!
20100801 23:36:20< norbert_> ok :)
20100801 23:36:23< Aethaeryn> commonly PHP
20100801 23:36:26< Aethaeryn> But the other two are possible.
20100801 23:36:43< Gambit> Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP, Perl, CFML
20100801 23:36:44< Aethaeryn> Gambit: HTML without CSS is kinda meh.
20100801 23:36:58< Aethaeryn> Gambit: also, don't be hatin' on Python.
20100801 23:37:10< Gambit> Aethaeryn: Yeah they could be considered one language if it weren't for the CSS XHTML interaction.
20100801 23:37:13< Daravel> norbert, ill finish up this guide to what i've done then e-mail it over
20100801 23:37:20< Gambit> I think CSS lets you use variables there o_O
20100801 23:37:27< Gambit> Or at least I get that impression from blogger
20100801 23:37:38< norbert_> Daravel: yes, would've been nicer, but the Wesnoth project is slow like the government, takes ages before decisions are made :)
20100801 23:37:40< Aethaeryn> Well, honestly, HTML/CSS is kinda the crude core, and then you expand with JavaScript, PHP, and related scripting languages.
20100801 23:37:55< Gambit> First you learn HTML
20100801 23:37:57< Gambit> then javascript
20100801 23:38:02< Aethaeryn> so HTML/CSS aren't languages, but they're kinda necessary foundational stuff
20100801 23:38:13< Gambit> then you find [insert server side language of choice] and it is *the* shit
20100801 23:38:20< Gambit> and you just completely brush of JS
20100801 23:38:26< Gambit> but then eventually you want some ajax
20100801 23:38:30< Aethaeryn> ....
20100801 23:38:33< Gambit> and you're like wow who knew I'd be using JS again?
20100801 23:38:46< Gambit> s/of/off/
20100801 23:38:54<+CIA-36> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7514 /trunk/The_Silver_Lands/images/portraits/ (transparent/ vampires/transparent/): TSL: did some restructuring.
20100801 23:38:57< Gambit> And then you're like "sorry JS."
20100801 23:39:11< Gambit> But JS gets all indignent and slaps you.
20100801 23:39:13< norbert_> eventually you'll just pick a solid language that has been around for at least 10-20 years and just laugh at all these new things like Ajax ;)
20100801 23:39:28< Gambit> lies
20100801 23:39:37< Aethaeryn> Heh.
20100801 23:39:45< Aethaeryn> Or you just forget about web.
20100801 23:39:53< Gambit> Yeah...
20100801 23:40:03< Aethaeryn> And live in a world of C, C++, Java, Python, and Perl.
20100801 23:40:08< Aethaeryn> And pretend you're smart for knowing 5 languages.
20100801 23:40:12< Gambit> I don't know any ajax yet. I'm still at stage 2 where I'm brushing off javascript, but afaict...
20100801 23:40:17< Gambit> ajax *IS* the internet
20100801 23:40:23< Aethaeryn> When it's really like pretending you're smart for knowing Portuguese, Spanish, Italian, and Latin.
20100801 23:40:24<+CIA-36> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7515 /trunk/The_Silver_Lands/images/portraits/vampires/transparent/ (14 files in 2 dirs): TSL: did some moar restructuring...
20100801 23:40:29< Gambit> the internet of tomorow does not exist without ajax
20100801 23:40:32 * Espreon chuckles
20100801 23:40:43< Aethaeryn> C = Latin. Everything's based off of it.
20100801 23:40:46< Aethaeryn> C++ = Italian.
20100801 23:40:55< Aethaeryn> Java = Spanish.
20100801 23:40:57< Aethaeryn> (More popular.)
20100801 23:41:03< Gambit> Aethaeryn: shame on you
20100801 23:41:04< Aethaeryn> (Or rather, more popular recently.)
20100801 23:41:10< Gambit> it's either C = latin;
20100801 23:41:14< Gambit> or C == latin
20100801 23:41:18< Gambit> I think you mean the latter.
20100801 23:41:38< loonycyborg> ajax is what is making sillines like this possible: http://mrdoob.com/projects/chromeexperiments/google_gravity/ :P
20100801 23:41:40< Aethaeryn> Python == French. Looks rather unlike the others but still in the same family when you look closer.
20100801 23:41:46< Aethaeryn> so then what is Perl?
20100801 23:41:47< Aethaeryn> :-P
20100801 23:41:54< Gambit> Perl is "shit" ?
20100801 23:41:59< Gambit> The language we all know and love.
20100801 23:42:01< Aethaeryn> Damn it, my analogy almost works.
20100801 23:42:05< Gambit> Except Espreon.
20100801 23:42:32< Aethaeryn> C = Latin; C++ = Italian; Java = Spanish; Python = French; Perl = ?
20100801 23:42:35< Gambit> wtf google gravity
20100801 23:42:38< Gambit> Aethaeryn: that is awesome
20100801 23:42:41< Gambit> Aethaeryn: I just told you
20100801 23:42:44< Gambit> Perl == Shit
20100801 23:42:48< Gambit> the language we're speaking right now
20100801 23:43:03< Aethaeryn> C is Latin because it's so foundational for so many languages, but it's basically replaced by C++.
20100801 23:43:09< Aethaeryn> Except for really old uses.
20100801 23:43:32< Aethaeryn> Java is Spanish because it's very, very popular these days, but arguably less beautiful.
20100801 23:43:46< norbert_> except for really old uses like most of Linux
20100801 23:43:47< Aethaeryn> Python is French because on the surface it looks unrelated but it's somehow similar.
20100801 23:43:59< Gambit> And nobody likes it :D
20100801 23:44:08< Aethaeryn> norbert_: Latin is used still in religion. Linux is a religion. Therefore Latin is used in Linux. QED
20100801 23:44:26< Aethaeryn> When you want to actually have casual uses you're not going to pick C :-P
20100801 23:44:42< norbert_> I sure do
20100801 23:44:46< norbert_> C for the win
20100801 23:44:59< Aethaeryn> Right, that makes you Mel Gibson.
20100801 23:45:21< Aethaeryn> hrmmm
20100801 23:45:33< Aethaeryn> Espreon: Would proto-indo-european be assembly or FORTRAN?
20100801 23:46:04< Aethaeryn> norbert_: Anyway, Italian is basically Latin++
20100801 23:46:57< Aethaeryn> shadowmaster: You're the Perl guy... which Romance language is Perl given the above equivalences?
20100801 23:49:40< loonycyborg> German :P
20100801 23:51:18< loonycyborg> And Ruby is English
20100801 23:51:54< loonycyborg> Due to its Perl/Python heritage..
20100801 23:53:03< Gambit> DUDE
20100801 23:53:11< Gambit> someone made an ajax burning snad game
20100801 23:53:13< Gambit> *sand
20100801 23:53:17< Gambit> ♥
20100801 23:53:54< Espreon> Wha?
20100801 23:54:34< Espreon> Silly children, German is a Germanic language, not a Romance language.
20100801 23:54:47< Gambit> Espreon: Perhaps that was the joke.
20100801 23:56:15< loonycyborg> They're all indoeuropean languages.
20100801 23:56:45< Espreon> True... and noöne cares about those silly Uralic languages.
20100801 23:57:03< Espreon> Right Aethaeryn?
20100801 23:57:18< Aethaeryn> loonycyborg: Oooh, Ruby is English, nice association.
20100801 23:57:36< Aethaeryn> Espreon: Right, German isn't a direct descendant.
20100801 23:57:47< Espreon> Damn right.
20100801 23:57:53< Aethaeryn> loonycyborg: So German would have to be something still European (so not radically different like lisp) but not a descendent of C
20100801 23:57:57< Aethaeryn> so something like, idk, Basic?
20100801 23:58:10< Espreon> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4f/IndoEuropeanTree.svg ... Blargh...
20100801 23:58:24< Aethaeryn> hrmm, though, Perl could be Greek.
20100801 23:58:32< Aethaeryn> Since some of its code is Greek to an untrained observer. :-P
20100801 23:59:58< Aethaeryn> loonycyborg, norbert_, Gambit, Espreon, etc.: What's missing from this list?
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