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20100806 00:10:17< Gambit> Alrighty. Just freed up ~20gb more space on windows.
20100806 00:10:29< Gambit> Now to back up everything on ubuntu.
20100806 00:10:37< Gambit> Then come saturday it'll be time to install this the right way.
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20100806 00:17:19< Gambit> The good news is that windows felt very uncomfortable.
20100806 00:17:25< Gambit> And slow to respond.
20100806 00:17:27< Gambit> So yay :D
20100806 00:23:46< Valkier> Windows is the master race of OS.
20100806 00:24:03< Valkier> Bow down before your God and close your eyes!
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20100806 00:41:03< Gambit> You can put forms in emails? Since when?
20100806 00:42:32<+CIA-36> wesnoth-umc-dev: mnewton1 * r7520 /branches/1.8/Ageless_Era/ (8491 files in 197 dirs):
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20100806 01:47:17< shadowmaster> Gambit: ...
20100806 01:47:27< shadowmaster> the virtualized OS cannot do ANYTHING to the host system
20100806 01:47:44< shadowmaster> unless you allow it to access the host's filesystems through such things as read/write shared folders
20100806 01:48:11< loonycyborg> Or through some really whacky exploit.
20100806 01:48:26< shadowmaster> loonycyborg: don't scare him.
20100806 01:51:54< shadowmaster> you bad person
20100806 01:52:40< shadowmaster> also, don't forget that there's no malware for linux </idiotlinuxfanboywhodoesntknowbetter>
20100806 01:59:57< shadowmaster> there's always the unrealircd morons.
20100806 02:00:37< shadowmaster> who don't seem to know how to find their socks, let alone keep script kiddies out of their ranks
20100806 02:05:50< Gambit> heh
20100806 02:08:40< shadowmaster> I imagine the ads
20100806 02:08:45< shadowmaster> Want to run an IRC server?
20100806 02:08:55< shadowmaster> Want angry people in your opers channel?
20100806 02:09:05< shadowmaster> Want the GNAA to DDoS your server?
20100806 02:09:29< shadowmaster> Get UnrealIRCd, every copy with a free trojan for raping your servers!
20100806 02:10:17< shadowmaster> Experience the magic of IRC trolls!
20100806 02:11:11< shadowmaster> (Disclaimer: the UnrealIRCd developers provide this product AS-IS and can't be held responsible for any subsequent damage or loss ensuing due to using our product on your own servers or networks. Batteries not included.)
20100806 02:11:15< shadowmaster> .
20100806 02:11:31< shadowmaster> :D
20100806 02:12:25< norbert_> http://www.unrealircd.com/txt/unrealsecadvisory.20100612.txt
20100806 02:12:31< norbert_> that, basically
20100806 02:14:07< shadowmaster> we've discussed it here before
20100806 02:14:25< shadowmaster> and there was much rejoice in the atheme services channel
20100806 02:16:40< Gambit> shadowmaster: Also apparently the main difference between debian and ubuntu is that the former has fewer guis for administration things.
20100806 02:16:44< Gambit> So... yeah...
20100806 02:16:48< Gambit> No.
20100806 02:16:53< shadowmaster> Gambit: 
20100806 02:17:51< shadowmaster> 15:15:13 <shadowmaster> Ubuntu is so newbie-friendly that it can lead to bad habits.
20100806 02:17:54< shadowmaster> 15:15:16 <timotei> than on ubuntu
20100806 02:17:57< shadowmaster> 15:15:32 <shadowmaster> bad habits including eternal newbieness
20100806 02:18:00< shadowmaster> 15:15:51 <shadowmaster> if you are just a generic Joe C. O'mputer User, Ubuntu is for you.
20100806 02:18:04< shadowmaster> 15:15:53 <timotei> "pick ubuntu. It rocks!"
20100806 02:18:06< shadowmaster> 15:15:58 <shadowmaster> if you are a geek, Debian is for you.
20100806 02:18:20< shadowmaster> Gambit: nevah forget.
20100806 02:19:10< shadowmaster> however, in practie I haven't needed to edit configuraion in Debian by hand most of the time except for some very particular needs
20100806 02:19:30< shadowmaster> there *are* GUIs for most stuff that a user should really care about
20100806 02:20:00< shadowmaster> and I think I've uninstalled a bunch of them
20100806 02:20:25< shadowmaster> including the printer config assistant since I use CUPS' admin interface directly
20100806 02:20:29< Valkier> Self portrait, guys. http://forums.wesnoth.org/download/file.php?id=44058
20100806 02:21:20< shadowmaster> Gambit: although now that I think of it....
20100806 02:21:32< shadowmaster> I haven't needed to configure much stuff.
20100806 02:21:44< shadowmaster> things such as networking are usable out of the box.
20100806 02:22:09< shadowmaster> so is X's configuration
20100806 02:22:22< shadowmaster> and...what else would you need to configure? hmmmm
20100806 02:22:49< shadowmaster> most settings are user-specific and I can change them via their KDE modules or application preferences if applicable
20100806 02:22:54< shadowmaster> *KDE system settings modules
20100806 02:23:33< shadowmaster> I prefer Debian because it doesn't have the "no-su or root logins, only sudo" bullshit Ubuntu has.
20100806 02:23:41< Gambit> I'm really happy for you and I'ma let you finish, but
20100806 02:23:47< Gambit> Ubuntu is the best distro of all time
20100806 02:23:49< Gambit> OF ALL TIME!
20100806 02:24:11< Gambit> "Whatever I'm using at the time is clearly the best until such a time that I find something better."
20100806 02:24:35< Gambit> shadowmaster: this thread is not locked?
20100806 02:24:41< Gambit> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=447710#p447710
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20100806 02:25:32< shadowmaster> Gambit: you are just seeing things
20100806 02:25:47< Gambit> shadowmaster: I hate rap. What better way to take the p*** out of a rapper than to make sure that his name is more associated with an internet meme than his actual... swearing to a rythm
20100806 02:25:55< Gambit> (I guess some people call that music.)
20100806 02:26:05< shadowmaster> I don't hate rap.
20100806 02:26:29< shadowmaster> I don't hate any music genre in particular...except for reggaeton, which has become horribly popular in Chile for some goddamned reason
20100806 02:27:42< Gambit> shadowmaster: http://imagebin.org/108275
20100806 02:27:44< Gambit> :awesome:
20100806 02:27:58< shadowmaster> if you don't know about that genre: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reggaeton
20100806 02:28:01< shadowmaster> it's shit.
20100806 02:28:06< shadowmaster> it's pure, unadulterated shit.
20100806 02:28:14< shadowmaster> but it sells well here for some goddamned reason.
20100806 02:28:24< Gambit> Rap is the same :@
20100806 02:28:34< Gambit> Seriously. What rap is is you take a regular song okay?
20100806 02:28:42< Gambit> And then you replace all the music with different ways of spitting.
20100806 02:28:51< Gambit> And then you replace all the punctuation marks with "motherfucker"
20100806 02:28:58< Gambit> and all the singular pronouns with "bitch"
20100806 02:29:02< Gambit> Viola! Rap music.
20100806 02:29:23< Gambit> err *voila
20100806 02:29:32< shadowmaster> Violas are fun.
20100806 02:29:35< Gambit> :P
20100806 02:29:42< Gambit> http://imagebin.org/108275
20100806 02:29:44< Gambit> :awesome:
20100806 02:29:53< shadowmaster> stop spamming that link
20100806 02:30:23< Gambit> For a fraction... a *tiny* fraction of a second I thought that perhaps I had earned permission to post in locked threads.
20100806 02:30:35< Gambit> But then I was like "No. I've been rather hyper lately."
20100806 02:30:47< shadowmaster> people with such permission like me will still see the locked icon in place of the post reply icon
20100806 02:30:50< shadowmaster> *button
20100806 02:31:17< Gambit> Make sense.
20100806 02:31:22< shadowmaster> you also happen to have that privilege in your domains including, but not limited to, Experimental Corner and Test Forum
20100806 02:31:24< Gambit> On ZB we see the post reply
20100806 02:31:28< Gambit> but quick reply is disabled
20100806 02:31:28< shadowmaster> I mean, "and limited to"
20100806 02:31:58< Gambit> And sometimes people don't realize threads are locked :\
20100806 02:32:02< Gambit> or that admins post through word filters :\
20100806 02:32:22< shadowmaster> anyway I simply forgot to click on the Lock topic checkbox before submitting my reply
20100806 02:34:38< Gambit> Where the heck is PetePorty?
20100806 02:35:53< shadowmaster> in Santiago de Chile, Chile.
20100806 02:36:01< shadowmaster> Región Metropolitana.
20100806 02:36:31< Gambit> shadowmaster: And Carmen Sandiego?
20100806 02:36:45< shadowmaster> who knows.
20100806 02:36:56< shadowmaster> I think I've seen her in TV Tropes
20100806 03:10:20< Gambit> shadowmaster: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=446539#p446539
20100806 03:19:50< shadowm_laptop> Gambit: old issue.
20100806 03:19:55< shadowm_laptop> Jetrel solved it that night IIRC
20100806 03:20:09< Gambit> shadowmaster: But why was the replacement so weird?
20100806 03:20:17< Gambit> And does it keep filtering until acceptable? Or just one pass?
20100806 03:20:59< shadowm_laptop> the replacement was Turuk's idea.
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20100806 03:21:20< shadowm_laptop> and it does only one pass or there'd be risk of creating infinite recursions due to incompetent people at the admin panel
20100806 03:22:16< shadowm_laptop> either that, or expensive matching/replacement sequences
20100806 03:23:22< Gambit> Multiple could be done.
20100806 03:23:32< Gambit> Run through 20 times and see if you've had the same word more than once.
20100806 03:23:57< Gambit> Of course if you still manage infinitite loops then s/incompetent/evil/
20100806 03:24:12< shadowm_laptop> go say all that bullshit to the people in #phpbb
20100806 03:24:16< Gambit> Of course that'd be one more mod that has absolutely 0 use.
20100806 03:24:33< Gambit> Okay 5 instead of 20?
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20100806 04:57:47< Valkier> Now, how am I supposed to get work done if nobody is telling me what needs fixed? :-P
20100806 04:57:50< Valkier> I call BS!
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20100806 05:41:51< shadowmaster> someone tell me how the hell I install software on FreeBSD, quickly.
20100806 05:42:16< shadowmaster> ah bah, I'll just go with vesa
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20100806 06:20:59< Espreon|Wii> LOL at the newest thread on the Ideas forum.
20100806 06:21:26< Espreon|Wii> shadowmaster: So, how's that blog post coming along?
20100806 06:23:29< Espreon|Wii> In other news, we might be getting a desktop... that has an nVidia card!
20100806 06:29:14< Espreon|Wii> ... Tch, how come when I'm around, noöne else is?
20100806 06:30:08< Valkier> The idea thread is funny
20100806 06:30:33< Valkier> Sorry, I'm usually here but even when people are around nobody says much to me. :-P
20100806 06:30:53< Espreon|Wii> Ic seo...
20100806 06:32:49< Espreon|Wii> This sucks...
20100806 06:35:53< Espreon|Wii> Well, back to lurking EDF...
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20100806 07:01:45< shadowmaster> I demand cake.
20100806 07:02:00< shadowmaster> oh, all my slaves are offline.
20100806 07:07:14< Valkier> Yup
20100806 07:07:18< Valkier> Stuck with us jerks now.
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20100806 07:40:46< shadowmaster> "Small Business Web Design"
20100806 07:40:55< shadowmaster> I almost feel like tracking down their IPs.
20100806 07:42:32< shadowmaster> "Affordable Site Design"
20100806 07:42:51< shadowmaster> bah, same link, different IP ranges
20100806 07:43:12< shadowmaster> and both come from fucking yahoo email addresses
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20100806 08:32:16< shadowmaster> hi timotei 
20100806 08:35:46< timotei> hi shadowmaster 
20100806 08:36:34< timotei> time to read irclogs
20100806 08:50:07< timotei> ummm
20100806 08:50:08< timotei> Gambit?
20100806 08:50:12< timotei> that looks stupid
20100806 08:50:15< timotei> http://imagebin.org/108275
20100806 08:50:21< timotei> Gambit: ^
20100806 08:50:46< timotei> I mean, who would put his gnome panel down?
20100806 08:51:20< shadowmaster> timotei: Ubuntu.
20100806 08:51:31< shadowmaster> and Gambit rarely reads the logs.
20100806 08:51:36< timotei> ...
20100806 08:51:46< timotei> ok I'll make it read the logs!
20100806 08:51:48< timotei> wesbot: seen Gambit
20100806 08:51:49<+wesbot> timotei: The person with the nick Gambit last spoke 5h 27m ago.  3h 31m ago was here and on the channels #wesnoth and #wesnoth-dev with the message: Remote host closed the connection
20100806 08:51:59< shadowmaster> you mean "him", nt "it"
20100806 08:52:03< shadowmaster> *not
20100806 08:52:03< timotei> him yeah
20100806 08:52:04< timotei> :P
20100806 08:52:21< timotei> ok, macro autcompletion is ready
20100806 08:52:37< timotei> I have just to investigate why java xml parser doesn't parse all of them :-<
20100806 08:54:20< shadowmaster> you are calling me stupid? http://shadowm.rewound.net/desktop1.png
20100806 08:54:27< shadowmaster> :P
20100806 08:54:32< timotei> no
20100806 08:54:35< timotei> kde it's ok
20100806 08:54:38< timotei> but gnome NO!
20100806 08:54:50< timotei> and that's even cuter than that gnome 'crap':P
20100806 08:55:00< shadowmaster> well, yeah.
20100806 08:55:14< timotei> why don't you use konversation?
20100806 08:55:19< timotei> or.. other clients?
20100806 08:55:19< shadowmaster> KDE's menu tends to look better when the button is in one of the bottom corners.
20100806 08:55:31< shadowmaster> timotei: long story.
20100806 08:55:34< timotei> kde taskbar sucks when trying to put it right
20100806 08:55:35< timotei> :(
20100806 08:55:38< shadowmaster> at first, I used Chatzilla.
20100806 08:55:48< shadowmaster> then I switched to Konversation.
20100806 08:56:00< shadowmaster> then I discovered kvirc, liked it, switchedto kvirc.
20100806 08:56:10< shadowmaster> then I learned to use irssi, liked it, switched to irssi.
20100806 08:56:33< shadowmaster> besides, my master session runs on a host that doesn't have a running X server for obvious reasons.
20100806 08:56:47< shadowmaster> so irssi does pretty well for a text-based user interface
20100806 09:02:23< timotei> oh
20100806 09:03:44< timotei> hmm
20100806 09:03:46< timotei> Akgregator
20100806 09:03:49< timotei> why not google reader?
20100806 09:04:03< timotei> I moved to that since I can view my feeds eveywhere
20100806 09:05:31< timotei> btw, what music player do you use?
20100806 09:05:36< timotei> I wish foobar was available on linux
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20100806 09:08:22< shadowmaster> timotei: I don't use google reader because I only work on one computer with access to the Internet, which is this laptop.
20100806 09:08:33< timotei> oh
20100806 09:08:43< timotei> well, yuo could use google reader from every computer with internet
20100806 09:08:43< shadowmaster> so I don't see the need to use stuff like Google Reader, Docs, syncing, bookmarks, etc. etc. etc.
20100806 09:08:54< timotei> ok
20100806 09:08:59< shadowmaster> regarding music players, I use Audacious.
20100806 09:09:23< shadowmaster> not to be confused with Audacity. Notably, even the openSUSE packagers mixed them up at some point.
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20100806 09:10:31< timotei> yes of course I wouldn't confuse it
20100806 09:10:37< timotei> hmm
20100806 09:10:50< timotei> there is another project who uses some features I need in my plugin
20100806 09:10:53< timotei> if fine copy-pasting?
20100806 09:10:58< timotei> alonsige with copyright?
20100806 09:11:59< shadowmaster> depends on the code's license
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20100806 09:12:29< timotei> it's the same as with mine
20100806 09:12:32< timotei> eclipse public license
20100806 09:13:35< shadowmaster> I guess so then, You might want to acknowledge the original author/projects in some code comment
20100806 09:13:47< timotei>  * Copyright (c) 2010, Cloudsmith Inc.
20100806 09:13:50< timotei> this is enough I think
20100806 09:14:03< shadowmaster> yeah
20100806 09:14:18< timotei> but I have to see if fendrin is ok with that
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20100806 09:15:28< timotei> well, if I think good, it has to be
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20100806 09:31:16< timotei> So...wait...WHOAH...THE COLORS MAN, THE COLORS!! IT'S SO BEAUTIFUL...IT'S...IT'S...
20100806 09:31:21< timotei> that means, they looked cool?
20100806 09:31:27< timotei> why didn't you take a prtscrne
20100806 09:31:54< shadowmaster> you do realize I said the system was locked up?
20100806 09:32:09< timotei> printscreen with a... photo device
20100806 09:32:10< timotei> :P
20100806 09:32:30< timotei> btw, nice tip. I didn't know that prntscrn/sysreq actually DOES something on linux :)
20100806 09:32:41< shadowmaster> the screen would have fried while I could find my cell phone
20100806 09:32:50< timotei> oh:|
20100806 09:33:41< shadowmaster> print-screen alone is assigned by KDE to launch ksnapshot (and take a fullscreen snapshot at the same time)
20100806 09:33:54< timotei> yeah
20100806 09:33:59< timotei> CTRL+ALT+SYSRQ+key
20100806 09:34:07< timotei> (I'm reading on wikipedia)
20100806 09:34:37< shadowmaster> Alt+SysRq+key
20100806 09:34:42< shadowmaster> no Ctrl involved
20100806 09:34:45< timotei> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key#Magic_commands
20100806 09:34:49< shadowmaster> oh wait
20100806 09:35:05< shadowmaster> "Under graphical environments (such as Gnome or KDE) 'Alt'+'PrintScrn/SysRq'+key combination generally only leads to a screenshot to be dumped. To avoid this Print Screen feature the magic SysRq combination should be additionally prefixed by Ctrl, becoming 'Ctrl'+'Alt'+'SysRq'+key. "
20100806 09:35:25< timotei> yes
20100806 09:35:31< shadowmaster> that doesn't completely make sense to me, since the kernel willalways trap the sysrq sequence before propagating events to userspace
20100806 09:35:32< timotei> Espreon used sudo reboot instead, thus keeping the laptop running despite this inconsistent state.
20100806 09:35:32< timotei> :(
20100806 09:35:59< timotei> might have killed the GPU/screen,
20100806 09:36:02< timotei> hmm what's that?
20100806 09:36:08< timotei> oh damn,
20100806 09:36:13< timotei> I read: GNU/Screen :))
20100806 09:36:19< timotei> I thought another GNUish invention
20100806 09:37:35< timotei> Maybe HP and AMD could team up and donate AMD ATI-powered laptops to the kernel DRM developers? 
20100806 09:37:38< timotei> that would be nice
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20100806 14:30:33< AI0867> 05:41 < shadowmaster> someone tell me how the hell I install software on FreeBSD, quickly. <-- cd /usr/src/packagename;make install
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20100806 15:17:41< AI0867> http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=447661#p447661 <-- are we sure the dark legion should be resprited?
20100806 15:19:24< AI0867> ah, right, a second page I hadn't read
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20100806 20:31:11< Daravel> hey norbert
20100806 20:31:19< norbert_> hi Daravel
20100806 20:31:45< Daravel> finally got on at the same time as you
20100806 20:33:03< norbert_> did you download the package?
20100806 20:33:23< Daravel> not yet, just going to do it
20100806 20:33:47< norbert_> ok
20100806 20:34:57< Daravel> apparently 1.0 has lots of different music; i think i found some of it on 1.2; but it'd be good to get the rest
20100806 20:39:42< Daravel> how is your end going?
20100806 20:41:09< norbert_> didn't have much time to work on it yet
20100806 20:41:17< norbert_> but have time this weekend
20100806 20:43:34< Daravel> thats fine
20100806 20:45:06< Daravel> im wondering if i should wait until we get 1.2 up before starting the rest
20100806 20:46:16< norbert_> well, as I wrote before, it'd be best to wait :)
20100806 20:46:47< Daravel> right, do you want the latest file?
20100806 20:47:08< norbert_> the information will have to be put into the database via the front-end
20100806 20:47:24< norbert_> because of the order, correlating numbers for IDs, and so on
20100806 20:47:43< norbert_> this means that you could continue with a text file, but eventually you'd have to put the data into the form
20100806 20:48:13< norbert_> I hope you understand what I mean
20100806 20:48:27< norbert_> it'll be easier to explain once the front-end for adding data is up
20100806 20:49:08< Daravel> sure, would it be easier to just put it into the front end in the first place?
20100806 20:49:16< norbert_> absolutely
20100806 20:49:18< Daravel> because, most of my time to work on this is at work; with no internet
20100806 20:49:32< norbert_> that's why I asked if you have internet access there :)
20100806 20:49:47< norbert_> but in two steps also works
20100806 20:50:01< norbert_> will take slightly more time
20100806 20:50:06< Daravel> i have 4 hours a day free 
20100806 20:50:15< Daravel> 2 hours before and 2 hours after work
20100806 20:51:41< norbert_> that's not a lot, it might be overkill to also spend those on Wesnoth-related things
20100806 20:52:51< Daravel> yup; so I'm doing this at work :P
20100806 20:53:02< Daravel> the long way it is then
20100806 20:53:15< norbert_> that'll work out
20100806 20:55:08< Daravel> Well, I'll not do any for a while anyway
20100806 20:55:46< norbert_> yes, no need to hurry
20100806 20:55:54< norbert_> you can wait until I have something to show
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20100806 20:57:21< Daravel> 27k files... sounds like fun
20100806 20:58:01< Daravel> the only problem with removing the .x files is that some of them might be for good sprites
20100806 20:58:28< Daravel> if there are 6 .x for one filename; the 6th one might be different and with animations
20100806 20:59:13< norbert_> true, but it doesn't have to be perfect
20100806 20:59:32< norbert_> nobody and nothing is perfect :)
20100806 21:01:56< Daravel> true enough
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20100806 21:06:06< Daravel> almost 400 mb bigger!
20100806 21:06:26< norbert_> probably a lot of .ogg files
20100806 21:07:07< Daravel> a lot will be the same as 1.2 as well
20100806 21:07:14< norbert_> the UMC Music add-on is 35,18 MB by itself
20100806 21:07:21< norbert_> probably, yes
20100806 21:07:55< Daravel> do you want me to upload the file?
20100806 21:08:23< norbert_> no, it won't be of too much use for me
20100806 21:08:44< Daravel> true
20100806 21:08:57< Daravel> you need the keywords though?
20100806 21:09:20< norbert_> no, because the front-end will allow you to add those
20100806 21:09:37< Daravel> ahh
20100806 21:09:51< Daravel> always one step ahead of me
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20100806 21:16:07< Daravel> some pretty cool music
20100806 21:16:27< Daravel> there doesnt seem to be 27k files; the slider bar is the same size
20100806 21:19:44< norbert_> the slider has a limit, to keep it usable by humans
20100806 21:19:56< norbert_> there are 27k files
20100806 21:20:14< norbert_> you could probably right click the directory and get information about it
20100806 21:20:26< Daravel> ahhh
20100806 21:20:27< norbert_> or select all files (Ctrl-a) and right click for information
20100806 21:20:49< Daravel> a lot of these images look copyrighted
20100806 21:21:21< norbert_> they do?
20100806 21:21:36< norbert_> some of the audio is, but I didn't really see any copyrighted images
20100806 21:21:51< Daravel> look at the 1_1 story images
20100806 21:21:59< norbert_> then again, I didn't really look at too many of them
20100806 21:22:06< Daravel> photos and paintings
20100806 21:22:11< Daravel> unless someone is truly talented
20100806 21:22:16< Daravel> and no one ever noticed
20100806 21:23:51< norbert_> you could delete anything that looks out of place
20100806 21:25:08< Daravel> couldn't wesnoth get in trouble for having all this stuff?
20100806 21:25:58< norbert_> if someone has a legitimate complain, files will probably be removed
20100806 21:26:10< norbert_> it's up to the users to keep things GPL'ed
20100806 21:26:35< Daravel> I see
20100806 21:28:22< norbert_> things on the add-on server, I mean; when people upload they get a pop-up and have to agree that what they upload is free
20100806 21:28:52< Daravel> someone has a rendition of "hall of the mountain king"!
20100806 21:30:42< norbert_> reminds me of http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=24277#_legal
20100806 21:31:13< norbert_> if you think there's a problem, you should probably inform the developers
20100806 21:32:06< Daravel> if it's on 1.6 or before, probably not an issue anymore
20100806 21:38:02< Daravel> right, i better go to work. I should be around Sunday and Monday night, then I'm busy all week and away on holiday next saturday
20100806 21:38:20< Daravel> I'll try and get on when I get some free time
20100806 21:40:07< norbert_> okay, good luck at work
20100806 21:40:22< norbert_> if I have any news I'll PM or e-mail
20100806 21:40:46< Daravel> cool
20100806 21:41:25< Daravel> do you think we can get it up before i go away next sat?
20100806 21:42:11< norbert_> maybe
20100806 21:42:22< Daravel> kk
20100806 21:42:31< Daravel> ok, cya later
20100806 21:42:34< norbert_> bye :)
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20100806 21:53:40< Gambit> Well darn...
20100806 21:53:51< Gambit> the keyboard and mouse on my desktop appear to be stuck in a browser game...
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20100806 22:01:27< Gambit> Well that was bad.
20100806 22:01:35< Gambit> stupid openJDK
20100806 22:05:52< Gambit> The good news is that I just figured out how to get the real java that isn't buggier than the underside of a rock
20100806 22:07:24 * loonycyborg doesn't know what are all those different JDKs are for and their differences
20100806 22:07:45< timotei> loonycyborg: just use Sun's and you'll live happy
20100806 22:07:52< timotei> Gambit: told you already about the openJDK stupid
20100806 22:08:04< Gambit> timotei: I know but it always said before that it didn't have sun's for amd64 :(
20100806 22:08:15< timotei> ha?
20100806 22:08:18< timotei> just search:
20100806 22:08:22< timotei> ubuntu 10.04 sun java
20100806 22:08:22< Gambit> But apparently that was because I didn't have the partner repositories enabled
20100806 22:08:28< timotei> great
20100806 22:08:29< timotei> :))
20100806 22:08:41< timotei> I prefer not to have java than having openjdk
20100806 22:08:44< loonycyborg> Even gcc has a java compiler for some reason..
20100806 22:08:53< timotei> yeah...
20100806 22:10:09< Gambit> Hopefully I still don't have issues with the keyboard and mouse getting stuck inside things
20100806 22:10:10 * Gambit tests
20100806 22:10:19< Gambit> It doesn't like it when you change windows...
20100806 22:10:23< Gambit> *didn't
20100806 22:11:09< timotei> hmm
20100806 22:11:13< timotei> debian + kde?
20100806 22:11:21< Gambit> ubuntu + gnome
20100806 22:11:25< timotei> oh
20100806 22:11:26< timotei> ok:P
20100806 22:13:30< Gambit> Also it would occasionally get the notion that I was holding down W, A, S, D, or space
20100806 22:13:40< Gambit> I fell off more than one high place because of this...
20100806 22:15:54< Gambit> Aww sun java just got that notion too :(
20100806 22:21:47< Gambit> aaand keys got stuck inside on browser version
20100806 22:21:55< Gambit> Which means another hard restart I guess...
20100806 22:22:18< Gambit> timotei: Do you know anything I could try?
20100806 22:22:36< Gambit> Whats the shortcut to close a window?
20100806 22:23:32< thespaceinvader> alt+f4
20100806 22:23:45< Gambit> That's windows isn't it?
20100806 22:24:03< thespaceinvader> yes
20100806 22:24:22< Gambit> Oh it does work here on the laptop
20100806 22:24:29< Gambit> but no joy on desktop :(
20100806 22:24:34< thespaceinvader> nyah
20100806 22:24:36< Gambit> Crap
20100806 22:25:01< timotei> what?
20100806 22:25:11< timotei> CTRL+ESCAPE is tak manager
20100806 22:25:23< Gambit> timotei: nope :(
20100806 22:25:24< timotei> usually on kde (hehe,) CTRL+ALT+ESC brings the 'kill cursor
20100806 22:25:29< timotei> well
20100806 22:25:38< timotei> wait
20100806 22:25:41< timotei> no hard restart damn it
20100806 22:25:47< timotei> CTRL+ALT+F1
20100806 22:25:47< Gambit> I can switch tty's
20100806 22:25:48< timotei> tty 1
20100806 22:25:49< timotei> login
20100806 22:25:52< timotei> and: reboot
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20100806 22:28:50< Gambit> I have got to find a better way to get out of that...
20100806 22:28:57< Gambit> timotei: can you kill a process from another tty?
20100806 22:29:06< timotei> umm maybe
20100806 22:29:14< timotei> don't know if 'ps' lists them all
20100806 22:29:16< timotei> it should
20100806 22:29:18< timotei> ps -l
20100806 22:30:31< Gambit> Nope
20100806 22:30:57< Gambit> google time
20100806 22:32:48< timotei> :)
20100806 22:33:02< timotei> man, can't belive I can help people with their linux :))
20100806 22:33:12< Gambit> Even if I could just restart one from another that'd work.
20100806 22:33:16< Gambit> Rather than the whole damn computer
20100806 22:33:25< Gambit> s/restart/logout and back in/
20100806 22:34:13< timotei> yeah
20100806 22:34:19< timotei> well, kill the sessions
20100806 22:34:23< timotei> surely it can be done
20100806 22:46:40< Gambit> It is concerning that a java game can steal your keyboard and mouse so badly.
20100806 22:46:45< Gambit> Alt-F4 should always work
20100806 22:47:01< Gambit> And Alt-Tab
20100806 22:47:04< Gambit> But nope...
20100806 22:59:13< timotei> no
20100806 22:59:16< timotei> they shouldn't
20100806 22:59:17< timotei> ;)
20100806 22:59:23< timotei> is that java game full screen?
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20100806 23:16:53< Gambit> timotei: Nope
20100806 23:17:07< Gambit> timotei: And yes they should
20100806 23:17:10< Gambit> No matter what
20100806 23:17:13< Gambit> forever and always
20100806 23:17:16< timotei> ok
20100806 23:17:19< Gambit> even when the power is out!
20100806 23:17:25< timotei> full screen apps in linux usually ... take all input
20100806 23:17:33< timotei> that's why when I play i open tty8
20100806 23:17:38< timotei> with another kde session;)
20100806 23:18:00< shadowmaster> timotei: that's a huge waste of resources.
20100806 23:18:15< shadowmaster> and it can lead to pain due to conflicting processes modifying config or cache files
20100806 23:18:18< timotei> shadowmaster: well, they can be
20100806 23:18:28< timotei> shadowmaster: but ..ok:D
20100806 23:18:51< shadowmaster> you can just use a text terminal on tty1-tty7 for killing a process if it goes mad.
20100806 23:19:14< shadowmaster> I never run games fullscreen anymore because I need to be able to see my IRC window, Twitter status, mail inbox status...
20100806 23:19:33< shadowmaster> oh, and battery status
20100806 23:19:40< shadowmaster> in case the AC adapter breaks or something
20100806 23:20:53< Gambit> shadowmaster: How to kill a process from another tty?
20100806 23:21:01< Gambit> I asked it for a list of processes and it just showed x
20100806 23:21:18< Gambit> It showed all of tty7 as one process
20100806 23:21:54< shadowmaster> ps aux
20100806 23:21:57< shadowmaster> top
20100806 23:22:04< shadowmaster> both should work
20100806 23:22:24< shadowmaster> if you know the name of the process and you are sure killing any processes with that name won't result in a disaster, you can use killall
20100806 23:22:28< shadowmaster> $ killall wesnoth
20100806 23:22:43< shadowmaster> $ killall -SIGKILL wesnoth   # in case something got stuck really badly
20100806 23:22:59< shadowmaster> $ killall -9 wesnoth   #  equivalent to -SIGKILL
20100806 23:23:29< shadowmaster> otherwise, if you need a particular process id for some reason, you can check with ps aux  or top  and find the process name
20100806 23:23:53< shadowmaster> ps aux | grep wesnoth    would display all processes that have wesnoth somewhere in their command line
20100806 23:23:53< timotei> god... IFS filesystem drives me crazy:|
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20100806 23:27:17< timotei> yey!
20100806 23:27:18< timotei> :D
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20100806 23:31:27< Gambit> shadowmaster: Thanks!
20100806 23:31:39< Gambit> ...
20100806 23:31:42 * Gambit cannot resist
20100806 23:31:44< Gambit> Now I know!
20100806 23:31:44<+shikadibot> And knowing is half the battle!
20100806 23:31:57< Espreon|Wii> shadowmaster: I read the blog post. I noticed a typo in the beginning of the post: "toyour".
20100806 23:32:13< Gambit> Espreon|Wii: How long do you think you'll be stuck on the wii? :(
20100806 23:32:25< timotei> hey Espreon|Wii 
20100806 23:32:34< shadowmaster> Espreon|Wii: k
20100806 23:32:42< timotei> Espreon|Wii: my question is, why is ya old nick still online
20100806 23:32:42< timotei> ?
20100806 23:32:56< timotei> your PC is still turned on?:D
20100806 23:33:14< shadowmaster> timotei: no.
20100806 23:33:15< Espreon|Wii> shadowmaster: Now what should we do? After all, there is a ginormous bomb in whatever...
20100806 23:33:18< shadowmaster> VPS session.
20100806 23:33:28< shadowmaster> Espreon|Wii: as I already said, nothing.
20100806 23:33:29< timotei> oh, I want that too (free please?)
20100806 23:33:34< shadowmaster> timotei: no
20100806 23:33:43< timotei> ok
20100806 23:33:47< shadowmaster> Espreon|Wii: only hope that Google blesses us.
20100806 23:33:50< shadowmaster> In other words, Squeeze has frozen. Thanks are due to everyone who has
20100806 23:33:57< shadowmaster> er, oops
20100806 23:34:14< shadowmaster> in other news, the Debian release team has spoken
20100806 23:34:23< shadowmaster> quote begin.
20100806 23:34:27< shadowmaster> In other words, Squeeze has frozen. Thanks are due to everyone who has
20100806 23:34:28< shadowmaster> helped get us to this point.
20100806 23:34:28< shadowmaster> Perhaps that's too subtle:
20100806 23:34:28< shadowmaster>      _==_ _
20100806 23:34:28< shadowmaster>    _,(",)|_|    *** Frosty says Squeeze is FROZEN. ***
20100806 23:34:30< shadowmaster>     \/. \-|     (He's in Austrailia, as it's winter there -
20100806 23:34:32< shadowmaster>   __( :  )|___  that's what the shovel is for, sandcastles)
20100806 23:34:33< Espreon|Wii> timotei: "Espreon" is from an irssi session that runs on mah shell account in teh freakin' Netherlands.
20100806 23:34:37< shadowmaster> quote end
20100806 23:34:46< timotei> :D
20100806 23:35:08< shadowmaster> timotei: how many times do I have to tell you, nothing is for free in the Internet.
20100806 23:35:11< shadowmaster> except scam.
20100806 23:35:28< timotei> shadowmaster: meh... Ok
20100806 23:35:33< Gambit> Minecraft is free :D
20100806 23:35:38< Gambit> You don't even have to look at ads!
20100806 23:35:39< timotei> this will be the last time. I
20100806 23:35:44< Gambit> forums.wesnoth.org is free
20100806 23:35:54< Gambit> ubuntu is free
20100806 23:36:29< Gambit> Can wesnoth be considered free? You must look at 3 advertisements during the process of downloading.
20100806 23:36:31< Espreon|Wii> Gambit: Either till I get the screen/GPU fixed (likely not happening anytime soon) or till we get our desktop... which will have a freakin' nVidia card!
20100806 23:37:00< Gambit> one on our homepage and two at sourceforge
20100806 23:37:05< Gambit> Espreon|Wii: I feel your pain.
20100806 23:37:16< Gambit> Espreon|Wii: Just don't go installing any DVD drives on old computers.
20100806 23:37:20< timotei> Espreon|Wii: :( but some nvidia card are just too hot
20100806 23:37:24< Gambit> Espreon|Wii: You will break them permanently :o
20100806 23:37:46< timotei> ok great... need to repair git again:-<
20100806 23:37:50< Espreon|Wii> timotei: Shut up... ATI SUCKS!
20100806 23:37:57< timotei> Espreon|Wii: really?
20100806 23:38:22< Gambit> Also spam is not free.
20100806 23:38:54< timotei> shadowmaster: also, the way I asked for free was in much way like 'I want to test it before'
20100806 23:39:35< timotei> shadowmaster: btw, thanks for 'invinting' me to use git. Now I feel stronger when I get errors :D
20100806 23:39:46< timotei> not just like a bunny who's gonna be shot
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20100806 23:40:31< Espreon|Wii> timotei: YEAH! I don't want to be using fglrx at all! Radeon probably doesn't support recent cards that well... or at all. Besides, in two/three years, support for my card in fglrx would probably be dropped... so... I just don't want to deal with ATI at all... ever again!
20100806 23:41:16< timotei> Espreon|Wii: ok... if you put it that way, I feel for you
20100806 23:41:35< Espreon|Wii> timotei: So, yeah... I kinda want to be able to enjoy my system...
20100806 23:41:47< timotei> but I'm stuck on windows, you know why? because those incompetent service guys broke something and I don't have enough wifi signal:|
20100806 23:41:57< timotei> Espreon|Wii: can't it get repaired? it should
20100806 23:42:23< timotei> in the way of: service
20100806 23:43:07< Espreon|Wii> Uh... wut? I probably wouldn't have enough money.
20100806 23:43:52< timotei> :(
20100806 23:44:05< timotei> well, service for replacing just the card/screen
20100806 23:44:09< timotei> GPU card
20100806 23:44:27< Espreon|Wii> As I said earlier, I don't have enough money.
20100806 23:50:00< timotei> ok guys, I'm out, it's just too late
20100806 23:50:28< timotei> good night Espreon|Wii , shadowmaster , Gambit 
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