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20100811 00:01:38< Espreon|Wii> Yay, two moar pronouns for my Spanish vocabulary... «connosco» and «convosco»...
20100811 00:05:44< Espreon|Wii> What more could there be to learn?
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20100811 01:11:25< Gambit> shadowmaster: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=448698#p448698
20100811 01:11:29< Gambit> :awesome:
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20100811 03:13:05< Gambit> Awesome. Since I tried it last year (with no success), someone wrote a working driver for my graphics tablet
20100811 03:14:08< Gambit> And it installed quite easily. Only like 4 commands and a restart.
20100811 03:24:36< Gambit> furthermore; compiz rotate cube is hot
20100811 03:24:55< Gambit> As is the dodge focus effect
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20100811 05:56:58< shadowmaster> hi Gambit 
20100811 05:59:29< Gambit> shadowmaster: Hiya
20100811 06:00:49< Gambit> shadowmaster: I have discovered the magic of compiz
20100811 06:01:35< shadowmaster> okay.
20100811 06:01:53< Gambit> I am particularly fond of rotate cube and reflection/deformation cube
20100811 06:02:03< shadowmaster> I have only discovered how inferior it is compared to kwin in terms of usability.
20100811 06:02:16< shadowmaster> it's more on par with Metacity (GNOME's window manager)
20100811 06:03:15< shadowmaster> I'm not really fond of such graphical effects that are exclusively intended as eye candy. I never use kwin's cube.
20100811 06:04:30< shadowmaster> This effect, however, is both useful and good-looking: http://shadowm.rewound.net/kwin2.png
20100811 06:05:33< Gambit> rotate cube is useful
20100811 06:05:41< shadowmaster> it isn't.
20100811 06:05:45< Gambit> Yes
20100811 06:05:50< shadowmaster> no.
20100811 06:05:56< Gambit> Being able to quickly peruse all the desktops
20100811 06:06:06< shadowmaster> well, not for me anyway since I don't really take advantage of multiple virtual desktops
20100811 06:06:12< Gambit> And reflect cube makes that look bearable to look at
20100811 06:06:17< shadowmaster> I tend to use desktop 1 only, although I have allocated 4.
20100811 06:06:23< Gambit> shadowmaster: Well I store running perl scripts on workspace 4
20100811 06:06:35< shadowmaster> I store running perl scripts in a GNU screen session
20100811 06:06:50< shadowmaster> so that they don't go down with X if something/someone screws up
20100811 06:07:10< shadowmaster> which is likely to happen since I run unreleased, experimental video drivers here.
20100811 06:07:20< Gambit> Yeah. Here; not so much.
20100811 06:07:36< Gambit> Also; my graphics tablet works.
20100811 06:07:39< Gambit> So hoorah!
20100811 06:07:40< shadowmaster> I'd say that anyone running Ubuntu should be prepared for random crashes.
20100811 06:07:51< shadowmaster> give me your graphics tablet, I want one
20100811 06:08:03< shadowmaster> even though I don't know how to use them for drawing. yet.
20100811 06:08:04< Gambit> I have never had a random crash in all my week of ubuntu.
20100811 06:08:21< Gambit> I use them for writing math equations on a virtual whiteboard when I tutor
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20100811 06:08:59< Gambit> Ouch
20100811 06:09:08< Gambit> shadowmaster: well I've got to go, so good night
20100811 06:09:17< Gambit> (it does transfer your backlog right?)
20100811 06:09:21< shadowmaster> night
20100811 06:09:23< shadowmaster> what?
20100811 06:09:26< Gambit> Oh you're still here :o
20100811 06:09:34< shadowmaster> Gambit: my laptop session kinda died
20100811 06:09:39< shadowmaster> because the USB modem has a small hiccup
20100811 06:09:44< shadowmaster> the connector isn't reliable anymore.
20100811 06:09:57< shadowmaster> *had
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20100811 06:10:07 * Gambit makes a note that shadowm_laptop is not an indicator that shadowmaster is connected to his remote session.
20100811 06:10:12< shadowmaster> exactly
20100811 06:10:16< shadowmaster> especially when I'm at university
20100811 06:10:27< shadowmaster> since they block all ports used by freenode
20100811 06:10:35< Gambit> It did mark you as away though.
20100811 06:10:39< shadowmaster> yeah
20100811 06:10:53< shadowmaster> because my SSH session also died, so the screen was detached
20100811 06:10:57< shadowmaster> so was my remote irssi session, in other words
20100811 06:11:23< shadowmaster> anyway, good ight
20100811 06:11:23< Gambit> shadowmaster: Why do you always want to have interesting conversations at 11-12 at night? :@
20100811 06:11:28< shadowmaster> no idea
20100811 06:11:33< Gambit> rofl
20100811 06:11:40< shadowmaster> I'm a night person.
20100811 06:11:43< shadowmaster> nocturnal.
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20100811 06:14:26< Aethaeryn> shadowmaster: Agreed.
20100811 06:14:35< Aethaeryn> My most productive times are between midnight and 3 am.
20100811 06:14:43< Aethaeryn> actually, between midnight and 9 am.
20100811 06:14:58< Aethaeryn> so either I get up super early (5 or 6) or stay up super late (until 5 or so)
20100811 06:15:05< Aethaeryn> being a college student, I choose the latter.
20100811 06:15:34 * Aethaeryn curses his morning class that ends in a week and a half :-(
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20100811 06:16:16< Espreon|Wii> Wow... I just encountered a CAPTCHA that had o-grave...
20100811 06:16:37< Espreon|Wii> shadowmaster: ^
20100811 06:19:04< Espreon|Wii> In other news, we're ordering on Thursday!
20100811 06:19:09< shadowmaster> nice!"
20100811 06:20:03< Espreon|Wii> But seriously, why the hell would they have o-grave in a CAPTCHA?
20100811 06:20:22< Aethaeryn> rofl
20100811 06:20:27< Aethaeryn> to hurt people using wiis?
20100811 06:20:44< Espreon|Wii> Next thing you know, they'll ask you for Arabic text!
20100811 06:21:03< Espreon|Wii> Aethaeryn: Nah, I can enter o-grave here.
20100811 06:21:09< shadowmaster> you know
20100811 06:21:16< shadowmaster> recaptchas can be refreshed
20100811 06:21:30< shadowmaster> so you can choose another one to ansewer without reloading the whole page
20100811 06:21:48< Espreon|Wii> I knew that.
20100811 06:22:32< Aethaeryn> Espreon|Wii: OMFG, that CAPTCHA is in Greek and Russian mixed! I can't tell the Unicode difference!
20100811 06:22:37< Aethaeryn> that's what is next.
20100811 06:23:02< Aethaeryn> and if you refresh it they give you a dead language character set that you need to install the fonts for
20100811 06:23:05< Espreon|Wii> Oh noez!
20100811 06:23:30< Espreon|Wii> Let's also ask for cuneiform and hieroglyphs!
20100811 06:25:08< Aethaeryn> "In related news, spam levels around the world have decreased, except for a drastic spike in activity from Greece, Russia, and a time vortex in ancient Sumeria!"
20100811 06:25:29< Aethaeryn> Damn Sumerians, their government isn't doing enough to prevent cybercrime.
20100811 06:25:57 * Espreon|Wii LOLs
20100811 06:27:36< Espreon|Wii> But what about the Anatolian peoples?
20100811 06:35:53< shadowmaster> hmmmmm, 2.6.34.3
20100811 06:36:34< shadowmaster> I hope for a commit "dri/radeon: fixed the possibility of setting laptops on fire with KMS"
20100811 06:36:42< Espreon|Wii> No... don't remind me... of kernel versions...
20100811 06:36:56< Espreon|Wii> I... miss... Linux!
20100811 06:37:21< shadowmaster> look at it like this:
20100811 06:37:30< shadowmaster> it's Wednesday, 12:37 am right now.
20100811 06:37:45< shadowmaster> Thursday starts in 23 hours 23 minutes.
20100811 06:38:07< Espreon|Wii> DAMN! I hate Wodenesdæg! Well, this will be the last sucky one.
20100811 06:38:22< shadowmaster> you have no idea how fucked up my day was.
20100811 06:38:29< shadowmaster> yesterday, I mean today, I mean...whatever, Tuesday
20100811 06:39:32< Espreon|Wii> shadowmaster: Also, don't gimme that crap. We're ordering on Thursday... not recieving...
20100811 06:39:46< shadowmaster> well, that's a pity. Here we buy stuff at the store.
20100811 06:39:50< Espreon|Wii> God knows when the stuff will arrive.
20100811 06:39:50< shadowmaster> we don't order.
20100811 06:40:01< shadowmaster> we just buy it and bring it home immediately
20100811 06:40:37< Espreon|Wii> Yeah, that's nice.
20100811 06:40:43< Aethaeryn> Espreon|Wii: do queries work on the wii?
20100811 06:40:46< shadowmaster> damn I'm reading 2.6.35.1's changelog
20100811 06:40:48< shadowmaster> instead of .34.3
20100811 06:40:59< Aethaeryn> haha, I just did /wii Espreon|Wii 
20100811 06:41:05< shadowmaster> Aethaeryn: it's the freenode webchat client
20100811 06:41:07< shadowmaster> so of course queries should work
20100811 06:41:11< Aethaeryn> ah
20100811 06:41:38< shadowmaster> commit 37aa5ce0ed1e1535c22fc3d37f36e39dd82e80b1
20100811 06:41:39< shadowmaster> Author: Alex Deucher <alexdeucher@gmail.com>
20100811 06:41:39< shadowmaster> Date:   Wed Aug 4 11:40:00 2010 -0400
20100811 06:41:39< shadowmaster> drm/radeon: add new pci ids 
20100811 06:41:41< shadowmaster> commit 1297c05a8dfb568c689f057d51a65eebe5ddc86f upstream. 
20100811 06:41:43< shadowmaster> New evergreen and r7xx ids.
20100811 06:41:50< shadowmaster> - sounds interesting
20100811 06:42:24< shadowmaster> nothing in 2.6.35.1 for me.
20100811 06:42:26< Espreon|Wii> No, not really.
20100811 06:42:53< Espreon|Wii> (That commit supposedly being interesting)
20100811 06:43:29< shadowmaster> yes, yes really.
20100811 06:43:50< shadowmaster> I'm still a KMS tester
20100811 06:44:01< shadowmaster> although I use UMS for production
20100811 06:44:45< shadowmaster> besides the obvious "laptops on fire" problem, KMS doesn't implement some OGL features here for some reason.
20100811 06:44:56< shadowmaster> I think I could safely assume that there's a problem with the online firmware
20100811 06:45:26< shadowmaster> but unfortunately the Mesa dev who could check my bug report is ill.
20100811 06:45:50< shadowmaster> *sick
20100811 06:46:05< shadowmaster> must...resist...connotations...
20100811 06:46:29< shadowmaster> anyway, nothing in 2.6.34.3 for me
20100811 06:46:43< shadowmaster> so I guess I'll not compile a new kernel.
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20100811 15:29:40< Gambit> Whoa! The laptop equivilant of my current machine (minus the graphics) is down to just $1,264.99
20100811 15:30:46< Gambit> Computers are advancing so fast :\
20100811 15:31:00< Gambit> A laptop equivilant of this machine wasn't even possible last year.
20100811 15:31:17< Gambit> Or if it was; Dell didn't offer it, or anything close.
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20100811 17:00:00<+CIA-36> wesnoth-umc-dev: ln-zookeeper * r7521 /trunk/Brotherhood_of_Light/ (Readme.txt _main.cfg _server.pbl): Updates for 0.6.2.
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20100811 19:16:28< Gambit> Boy this java bug is really annoying.
20100811 19:16:44< Gambit> I'll have to be careful not to go to any website where a java app captures the mouse
20100811 19:17:24< timotei> what?
20100811 19:18:08< Gambit> timotei: my mouse and keys got stuck inside a java app again. :(
20100811 19:18:22< Gambit> Hadda restart. I tried killing it from another tty, but failed and crashed.
20100811 19:18:34< timotei> you're gonna ruin your linux
20100811 19:18:41< Gambit> D:
20100811 19:18:41< timotei> told you to use kde+CTRL+ALT+ESC
20100811 19:18:55< Gambit> I have gnome...
20100811 19:21:11< timotei> ...
20100811 19:21:38< Gambit> And I don't believe that would work.
20100811 19:21:53< Gambit> As other shortcuts like Alt-F4 and Ctrl-Alt-Delete do not either when I get stuck like that.
20100811 19:22:07< Gambit> The keyboard does absolutely nothing, and the mouse is trapped inside the game.
20100811 19:23:08< loonycyborg_> Killing it from another vt should have worked. What exactly did you kill?
20100811 19:24:03< Gambit> I tried killing chrome
20100811 19:24:17< Gambit> when I went back to tty7 everything was black except this tiny white box in the dead center of the screen
20100811 19:24:36< loonycyborg_> Maybe you should be killing the java vm instead.
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20100811 19:25:43< timotei> Gambit: well, you didn't kill it ok
20100811 19:25:51< timotei> chrome spawns a process for each window:)
20100811 19:27:14< Gambit> On further inspection, it's just a bug with that one application.
20100811 19:27:28< Gambit> And only when running it in the browser.
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20100811 19:50:16< Aethaeryn> Gambit: what application?
20100811 19:50:37< Gambit> minecraft free
20100811 19:50:43< Aethaeryn> no issues
20100811 19:50:53< Aethaeryn> so it's either an Ubuntu problem or an only-you problem.
20100811 19:50:58< Gambit> switch a tab, or window or open a new tab and then switch back
20100811 19:51:11< timotei> it's ubuntu
20100811 19:51:51< Aethaeryn> does Ubuntu even allow the non-GUI stuff like ctrl+alt+f2?
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20100811 19:51:56< Aethaeryn> Or is that too non-user-friendly?
20100811 19:52:21< Gambit> the only shortcut I can get to work is ctrl+alt+fx
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