--- Log opened Sun Aug 15 00:00:44 2010
20100815 00:01:49< Gambit> shadowmaster: Can you use regex to set a variable to a particular piece of a string?
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20100815 00:02:40< shadowmaster> yes
20100815 00:03:09< shadowmaster> using () and $1, $2, etc.
20100815 00:03:32< shadowmaster> it's easy to learn, so you can just look it up.
20100815 00:03:49< Gambit> Is there a name for it?
20100815 00:04:01< shadowmaster> pattern grouping IIRC.
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20100815 00:33:34< Gambit> sadness. That language nobody here likes to talk about does not capture its groups and place them in variables.
20100815 00:33:47< Gambit> PHP doesn't either.
20100815 00:33:51< Gambit> Only perl.
20100815 00:33:55< Gambit> And... java?
20100815 00:44:10< Aethaeryn> Gambit: then use Perl for your forum
20100815 00:44:16< Aethaeryn> call it perlBB
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20100815 00:44:35< Gambit> Aethaeryn: Actually this is for the IRC bots
20100815 00:46:40< Gambit> And actually it half supports that.
20100815 00:47:10< Gambit> Sort of
20100815 00:57:12< Gambit> Nope not really
20100815 01:07:10< Aethaeryn> ＧＡＭＢＩＴ: There are advantages to the major languages. Often, libraries make up for faults, but the larger the language the more likely there's some kind of solution or documentation or w/e.
20100815 01:07:38< shadowmaster> don't abuse UTF-8
20100815 01:07:41< Aethaeryn> It's not that they're the only way, or w/e.
20100815 01:07:46< Aethaeryn> Damn it.
20100815 01:07:48< shadowmaster> ☹
20100815 01:07:49< Aethaeryn> :-(
20100815 01:08:37< Aethaeryn> I was going to set up a keyboard that typed only in fullwidth. :-P
20100815 01:08:53< Aethaeryn> But of course, someone using irssi would notice.
20100815 01:09:12< Gambit> Actually it does support it.
20100815 01:09:24< Gambit> Sort of...
20100815 01:09:33< Gambit> Is there a regex XOR?
20100815 01:09:39< Gambit> I'm googling it with no luck at all
20100815 01:11:29< Gambit> mainly because I keep getting timeouts and/or 404's
20100815 01:12:32< Gambit> well actually no. just or
20100815 01:12:42< Gambit> You can't have a timeout AND a 404
20100815 01:12:56< Gambit> Unless you try the same website multiple times, so actually yeah I meant what I said.
20100815 01:15:13< Gambit> Clearly it is past time to call my ISP and yell at them.
20100815 01:16:21< shadowmaster> HTTP 404s indicate broken links, not a client-side issue.
20100815 01:23:31< Aethaeryn> hmm
20100815 01:25:18< Aethaeryn> Gambit: what are you trying to get your bot to do anyway?
20100815 01:25:23< Gambit> At any rate; 1. my isp is ticking me off lately. 2. perl > cfml (in this one particular area at least) and I need to switch to .cgi pages for my janebot
20100815 01:25:39< Aethaeryn> Gambit: also, perl's motto is there's more than one way to do it
20100815 01:25:40< Aethaeryn> so
20100815 01:25:47< Gambit> Aethaeryn: I'm trying to shorten my code with my new found knowledge of regular expressions
20100815 01:25:49< Aethaeryn> they probably support the way you're trying to do it
20100815 01:26:01< Gambit> janebot: perl?
20100815 01:26:02<+janebot> Gambit: No.
20100815 01:26:13< Aethaeryn> janebot: wesnoth?
20100815 01:26:13<+janebot> Aethaeryn: Of course not!
20100815 01:26:17< Aethaeryn> :/
20100815 01:26:22< Aethaeryn> janebot: freenode?
20100815 01:26:22<+janebot> Aethaeryn: Nope.
20100815 01:26:26< Aethaeryn> janebot: google?
20100815 01:26:26<+janebot> Aethaeryn: Yes.
20100815 01:26:38< Aethaeryn> janebot: wikipedia?
20100815 01:26:38<+janebot> Aethaeryn: No way.
20100815 01:26:44< Gambit> Aethaeryn: ##Gambot
20100815 01:26:44< Aethaeryn> janebot: microsoft?
20100815 01:26:44<+janebot> Aethaeryn: Of course not!
20100815 01:26:55< Gambit> or #wesnoth-music
20100815 01:26:56< shadowmaster> janebot: shikadibot?
20100815 01:26:56<+janebot> shadowmaster: Nope.
20100815 01:26:57< Aethaeryn> hmmm
20100815 01:27:03< Aethaeryn> I wonder if I could insert code
20100815 01:27:07< Aethaeryn> and make it execute a command
20100815 01:27:13< shadowmaster> janebot: do you love me?
20100815 01:27:13<+janebot> shadowmaster: Of course not!
20100815 01:27:15< Aethaeryn> Gambit: what do you code it in?
20100815 01:27:18< Gambit> Aethaeryn: Go ahead and try in ##Gambot
20100815 01:27:21< shadowmaster> :.(
20100815 01:27:21< Gambit> Aethaeryn: But you can't.
20100815 01:27:36< Aethaeryn> well, if it's a language that requires more than one line, e.g. Python, you can't
20100815 01:27:40< Aethaeryn> and maybe if it's too long
20100815 01:27:42< Aethaeryn> :p
20100815 01:28:05< shadowmaster> janebot: who the hell do you think I am?
20100815 01:28:05<+janebot> shadowmaster: Yes.
20100815 01:28:18< shadowmaster> Gambit: I'd have expected better from you.
20100815 01:28:25< Aethaeryn> janebot: aethaeryn
20100815 01:28:26< shadowmaster> i.e. implementing Zarel's QMarkAI code in it
20100815 01:28:36< Aethaeryn> janebot: aethaeryn?
20100815 01:28:36<+janebot> Aethaeryn: Of course!
20100815 01:28:40< Aethaeryn> :D
20100815 01:29:13< Gambit> Aethaeryn: there is a command that that Evaluate()'s argument one
20100815 01:29:28< Gambit> Aethaeryn: But there's nothing dangerous you can do with no spaces
20100815 01:29:36< shadowmaster> janebot: hug shikadibot
20100815 01:29:36 * janebot hugs shikadibot.
20100815 01:29:36 * shikadibot hugs janebot
20100815 01:29:47< Gambit> shadowmaster: I did have QMAI implemented on it!
20100815 01:29:54< Gambit> shadowmaster: But when I migrated to ubuntu
20100815 01:30:02< Gambit> external http requests took a huge performance hit
20100815 01:30:08< Gambit> the lag was huge
20100815 01:30:11< Gambit> janebot: !task 7035
20100815 01:30:12<+janebot> Gambit: Task 7035: Add Ascension Era to the Fork
20100815 01:30:12<+janebot> Gambit: Priority: 5 - Normal
20100815 01:30:12<+janebot> Gambit: Status: Implementation
20100815 01:30:13<+janebot> Gambit: Go there: http://gna.org/task/?7035
20100815 01:30:21< Gambit> janebot: Oh wait to be fast at the most inoportune time!
20100815 01:30:23< shadowmaster> performance hit you say?
20100815 01:30:34< Gambit> shadowmaster: I swear it was freezing the bot for like 15+ seconds!
20100815 01:30:47< shadowmaster> this is like the boy who shouted wolf.
20100815 01:31:10< Gambit> janebot: !do #wesnoth-umc-dev kills shikadibot
20100815 01:31:10 * janebot kills shikadibot
20100815 01:31:10 * shikadibot is immortal
20100815 01:31:32< Gambit> shadowmaster: I am rewriting QMAI's logic in CFS
20100815 01:31:34< Gambit> Or was.
20100815 01:31:55< Gambit> janebot: Will you marry me?
20100815 01:31:55<+janebot> Gambit: Maybe I will. Maybe I won't. Probably the latter.
20100815 01:33:05< Gambit> janebot: Will you marry shikadibot?
20100815 01:37:21< Gambit> janebot: Will you marry shikadibot?
20100815 01:37:21<+janebot> Gambit: I can't discuss my relationships (or lack thereof) with others.
20100815 01:37:37< Gambit> Now I guess I'll be rewriting it in perl.
20100815 01:38:24< Gambit> Aethaeryn: Also I'm offended that you think I'm that dumb.
20100815 01:41:14< Gambit> It occurs to me that QMAI's code would be much more compact with regex.
20100815 01:41:21< Gambit> Zarel has his own little language it uses
20100815 01:41:27< Gambit> And then he just writes parsers when he ports it.
20100815 01:44:27< Gambit> shadowmaster: Is this whole "Stop responding when he mentions CF" an intentional negative reinforcement thing, or does it really annoy you *that* much, or is it utter coincidence?
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20100815 01:59:01< shadowmaster> Gambit: coincidence.
20100815 01:59:17< shadowmaster> I was busy outside, and afterwards preparing to plug the external HD
20100815 01:59:48< shadowmaster> which involves moving the laptop to another power outlet
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20100815 02:03:45< Gambit> shadowmaster: /:q[a]*/ would match :q and :qa ?
20100815 02:03:59< Gambit> Wait
20100815 02:04:08< Gambit> There should be an online regex tester somewhere...
20100815 02:04:43< Gambit> And no. It doesn't math.
20100815 02:05:27< Gambit> /:qa?/
20100815 02:05:28< shadowmaster> it'll match foobar:qfoobar
20100815 02:05:36< shadowmaster> and foobar:qaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaafoobar
20100815 02:05:47< Gambit> /^:qa?$/
20100815 02:06:02< shadowmaster> yes, I think.
20100815 02:06:24< shadowmaster> I generally group patterns with (?:...) to avoid ambiguity
20100815 02:07:32< shadowmaster> primary connections complete.
20100815 02:10:40< shadowmaster> ew, I almost destroyed  mmy Kubuntu ISO.
20100815 02:11:20< shadowmaster> wait, it is in my home dir.
20100815 02:11:29< shadowmaster> so why couldn't I find it last night?
20100815 02:13:22< shadowmaster> okay, whatever. Backup time.
20100815 02:18:48-!- shadowmaster is now known as _ControlFreak
20100815 02:19:52< Gambit> _ControlFreak: That was the coolest villian the Teen Titans ever faced!
20100815 02:19:52<+janebot> Teenagers scare the living s*** out of me.
20100815 02:20:13< _ControlFreak> teen
20100815 02:20:13<+janebot> Teenagers scare the living s*** out of me.
20100815 02:20:20< _ControlFreak> Gambit: hm.
20100815 02:21:06< Gambit> I can make it check to make sure it's not in #wesnoth-umc-dev for "conversation pieces"
20100815 02:21:15< Gambit> but "tell me something I don't know" won't work anymore then
20100815 02:21:20<+janebot> Gambit: Mary Stuart became Queen of Scotland when she was only six days old. Now you know!
20100815 02:21:20<+shikadibot> And knowing is half the battle!
20100815 02:21:32< Gambit> shikadibot: How is your reaction time so good?
20100815 02:21:43< _ControlFreak> Gambit: VPS.
20100815 02:21:55< _ControlFreak> the Internet connection here is good.
20100815 02:22:05< Gambit> I got hers in the same instant as janebot's.
20100815 02:22:30< Gambit> Well that and janebot goes through a ton of layers.
20100815 02:22:36< _ControlFreak> sucks to be you.
20100815 02:22:40< _ControlFreak> although it's far worse to be me.
20100815 02:22:46< Gambit> One of which is the super inneficient adobe coldfusion software
20100815 02:23:33< _ControlFreak> what?
20100815 02:23:42< _ControlFreak> you just said that?
20100815 02:23:52< Gambit> _ControlFreak: The language is good.
20100815 02:23:58< Gambit> Adobe's server software sucks balls.
20100815 02:24:13< Gambit> I often try to point out that they're two entirely different things.
20100815 02:24:34< Gambit> The language is maintained and advanced by a council of people who meet infrequently to discuss it.
20100815 02:24:56< _ControlFreak> efficiency ftw.
20100815 02:25:04< _ControlFreak> especially for web servers.
20100815 02:25:05< Gambit> I'd switch to Railo, but it's still missing some key features.
20100815 02:25:20< Gambit> Namely event gateways.
20100815 02:25:40< _ControlFreak> Wesnoth's forums have response times for index and viewtopic within the range of 0.2 seconds.
20100815 02:25:57< _ControlFreak> as long as the client's connection is good, of course.
20100815 02:26:15< Gambit> Yeah. ;)
20100815 02:26:16< _ControlFreak> i.e. at university
20100815 02:26:32< _ControlFreak> on the wifi
20100815 02:26:38< Gambit> I've had to wait up to several minutes recently.
20100815 02:26:45< Gambit> But that's not just wesnoth's forums.
20100815 02:27:55< Gambit> Also for some reason installing coldfusion onto apache seems to do absolutely nothing.
20100815 02:28:05< Gambit> One can still run without the other perfectly.
20100815 02:28:16< Gambit> Coldfusion just then uses port 80 and apache's webroot.
20100815 02:28:31< Gambit> Well and apache sends it pages to parse
20100815 02:28:36< Gambit> But without apache running
20100815 02:28:39< Gambit> it still parses them
20100815 02:28:39< Gambit> :s
20100815 02:28:46< Gambit> So yeah...
20100815 02:28:51< Gambit> Adobe thumbs down
20100815 02:29:05< Gambit> for being strange
20100815 02:29:12< Gambit> And slow
20100815 02:29:16< Gambit> And pricey.
20100815 02:29:17< _ControlFreak> Adobe deserves to die for discontinuing amd64 buids of the flash player for Linux.
20100815 02:29:42< Gambit> :o
20100815 02:29:44< _ControlFreak> I have to stick to an old one because the 32-bit build crashes on some pages for no apparent reason.
20100815 02:29:48< Gambit> _ControlFreak: So how do we have them?
20100815 02:29:52< Gambit> Oh
20100815 02:29:55< Gambit> Okay.
20100815 02:30:29< Gambit> Also tengentally related to last nights conversation. Adobe is actively trying to EEE coldfusion
20100815 02:30:37< Gambit> To the point that uninformed Aethaeryn's equate the two.
20100815 02:30:52< Gambit> *They're succeding to the point that...
20100815 02:30:55< _ControlFreak> you mean "tangentially"
20100815 02:31:06< Gambit> Yes.
20100815 02:31:40< Gambit> Anyway back to my newfound love (regular expressions)
20100815 02:33:03< _ControlFreak> http://xkcd.com/208/
20100815 02:34:23< Gambit> Awesome
20100815 02:35:27< Gambit> And now to setup my cgi-bin
20100815 02:35:39< Gambit> Though, for security reason you pointed out the other day, I'm going to name it something silly
20100815 02:35:45< Gambit> Like "brocoli-bag"
20100815 02:36:16-!- _ControlFreak is now known as shadowmaster
20100815 02:36:19< Gambit> Do file upload dialogs allow you to prepend a foldername?
20100815 02:36:31< Gambit> No. That would be stupid and dangerous.
20100815 02:36:37< Gambit> So I guess it is safe to name it cgi-bin
20100815 02:37:12< shadowmaster> generally they don't allow to do that.
20100815 02:37:40< shadowmaster> now, if you are running Super Duper Box DoSing Server 3000, well...
20100815 02:39:43< Gambit> Running what?
20100815 02:40:42< shadowmaster> unsafe server-side applications
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20100815 02:51:53< shadowmaster> backup finished
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20100815 02:57:17< Gambit> I cannot get it to work.
20100815 02:58:02< Gambit> I think it's using a folder that isn't in public_html
20100815 03:02:32< Gambit> indeed it is
20100815 03:20:41< Gambit> Sweetness
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20100815 03:27:43< shadowmaster> merging these changes into the live board
20100815 03:28:04< Gambit> janebot: !q sudo apt-get install blah
20100815 03:28:04<+janebot> Gambit: I am an artificial intelligence algorithm; not a shell.
20100815 03:28:15< Gambit> shadowmaster: Question answering runs on perl now.
20100815 03:28:29< Gambit> I am like 2% done converting QMAI to perl.
20100815 03:29:03< Gambit> shadowmaster: Do you plan to fix the columns?
20100815 03:29:21< Gambit> Or should I seriously whine to phpbb?
20100815 03:29:25< shadowmaster> what columns?
20100815 03:29:54< Gambit> The sidebar in viewtopic and the rightmost column on the index and viewforum
20100815 03:30:18< Gambit> shadowmaster: In viewtopic the post content should stretch. Not the sidebar.
20100815 03:30:25< Gambit> In viewforum and index the leftmost column should stretch
20100815 03:30:27< Gambit> not the rightmost
20100815 03:30:37< shadowmaster> I'm not going to fix that.
20100815 03:32:21< shadowmaster> it requires multiple CSS changes I'm not willing to do.
20100815 03:32:39< shadowmaster> (i.e. it'd affect more than 10 elements)
20100815 03:32:41< Gambit> 6 to be exact.
20100815 03:32:52< Gambit> err 12?
20100815 03:33:01< Gambit> Yeah 12.
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20100815 03:59:14< shadowmaster> I suck
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20100815 04:00:17< shadowmaster> I still suck. hmmm
20100815 04:01:01< Gambit> shadowmaster: Is there a flag for s/// to keep replacing until there are no matches?
20100815 04:01:17< Gambit> (Yes I know — infinite loop possibility)
20100815 04:02:14< shadowmaster> the g flag.
20100815 04:02:22< shadowmaster> s/pattern/substitution/g
20100815 04:02:46< shadowmaster> crap, this forum theme issue is a case of "works for me on my laptop"
20100815 04:03:51< Gambit> browser specific?
20100815 04:04:09< shadowmaster> no
20100815 04:04:16< shadowmaster> more like site-specific
20100815 04:09:08< Aethaeryn> hmmm
20100815 04:09:27< Aethaeryn> I wonder what s/not/certainly/g would do to IRC logs.
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20100815 04:37:01< shadowmaster> kubuntu won't work.
20100815 04:37:10< shadowmaster> I need other distro for resizing partitions
20100815 04:37:18< Gambit> mint?
20100815 04:37:23< Gambit> (kidding)
20100815 04:37:28< Gambit> shadowmaster: I thought you were a debian guy?
20100815 04:37:56< shadowmaster> yes, I am.
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20100815 04:38:21< shadowmaster> but I can't resize crap from the live system without fucking up in some ridiculous way.
20100815 04:38:36< shadowmaster> from my experience.
20100815 04:39:02< shadowmaster> and I want a GUI partition editor.
20100815 04:39:25< shadowmaster> otherwise pretty much any of the CDs I have would work, including the Debian installation DVD #1
20100815 04:39:56< shadowmaster> 22:32:10 <+shadowmaster> I just want to resize the partitions on my Debian laptop.
20100815 04:40:00< shadowmaster> 22:32:53 <+shadowmaster> and the last time I did that from the command line I ended up destroying the partition table, later recovering it and killing my home and swap partitions
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20100815 04:52:26< Aethaeryn> Typically, the world consists of zero or more of anything from any category.
20100815 04:53:16< Gambit> Except for dsl isp's in any given American school district/county
20100815 04:53:21< Aethaeryn> So when a book says, "Typically, ______ consists of zero or more ________." it is a rather empty tautology, methinks.
20100815 04:54:05< Gambit> Oh wait zero or more?
20100815 04:54:15< Gambit> Actually that still applies.
20100815 04:54:23< Gambit> Some places in America still lack dsl
20100815 04:54:47< Gambit> No... "zero"
20100815 04:54:53< Gambit> Aethaeryn: Wth?
20100815 04:54:58< Gambit> Yeah you're right.
20100815 04:55:01< Aethaeryn> A set would have to have less than zero.
20100815 04:55:11< Gambit> But it's so mind numbingly "duh" right.
20100815 04:55:23< Aethaeryn> Which isn't possible in terms of tangible objects.
20100815 04:55:27< Aethaeryn> Or parts of whatever.
20100815 04:55:44< Aethaeryn> "A typical program consists of zero or more..."
20100815 04:55:47< Aethaeryn> Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
20100815 04:56:22< Aethaeryn> A typical Python program consists of zero or more secret backdoor trojan horses that let the Nazi high command take control of your computer!
20100815 04:56:43< Aethaeryn> Gambit: And so does the banned language!
20100815 04:58:53< Aethaeryn> Gambit: And there are zero or more terrorists in YOUR HOUSE RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!11111111one
20100815 04:58:57< Gambit> Ha
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20100815 05:13:32< Gambit> Night all.
20100815 05:13:38< Gambit> shadowmaster: Good luck with your partitioning.
20100815 05:13:55< Gambit> It's not something I plan to do again for a long, long time.
20100815 05:14:22< Gambit> (Like... "brand new computer" long time)
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20100815 15:16:22< Gambit> QMark AI has needed this for a long time:
20100815 15:16:28< Gambit>  /^How many licks.+toots(y|ie) pop/
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20100815 17:20:01< Gambit> Maybe I was wrong to rush to his aid; http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=449820#p449820
20100815 17:20:08< Gambit> He's a brick wall.
20100815 17:20:16< Gambit> Brick walls don't need help with add-ons.
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20100815 19:38:47< shadowmaster> Gambit: indeed.
20100815 19:39:04< shadowmaster> he might end up banned again if he doesn't change that attitude quickly.
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20100815 20:12:15< timotei> wtf?
20100815 20:12:17< timotei> http://www.wesnoth.org/irclogs/2010/08/%23wesnoth-umc-dev.2010-08-15.log
20100815 20:12:26< timotei> why is GAMBIT written in another way of other chars???
20100815 20:12:32< timotei> 20100815 01:07:10< Aethaeryn> ＧＡＭＢＩＴ: 
20100815 20:12:50< Gambit> timotei: Because it's Aethaeryn.
20100815 20:12:54< Gambit> 'Nuff said
20100815 20:13:29< shadowmaster> halfwidth and fullwidth forms
20100815 20:13:54< shadowmaster> Unicode #FF00 to #FFEF
20100815 20:14:18< timotei> oh
20100815 20:14:25< shadowmaster> (UTF-8 0xEF 0xBC 0x80 through 0xEF 0xBF 0xA)
20100815 20:14:39< shadowmaster> *0xAF
20100815 20:14:53< shadowmaster> ＨＩ
20100815 20:15:21< shadowmaster> ＄＄＄
20100815 20:15:25< shadowmaster> etc.
20100815 20:21:54< timotei> oh
20100815 20:21:56< timotei> ok
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20100815 21:29:03< Gambit> Sweet. Tide system done.
20100815 21:32:21< shadowmaster> meh, I'm having problems making esr's post-commit hook for CIA notifications work.
20100815 21:32:24< shadowmaster> I guess I'll try making it an update hook instead.
20100815 21:32:36< timotei> shadowmaster: what they do?
20100815 21:32:57< shadowmaster> sending CIA notifications.
20100815 21:33:00< timotei> aha
20100815 21:33:10< esr> shadowmaster: I'm here, can I help?
20100815 21:33:30< shadowmaster> once I try it as a update hook rather than post-commit
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20100815 21:37:58< Gambit> shadowmaster: is that a... subsubforum?
20100815 21:38:10< shadowmaster> what?
20100815 21:38:18< Gambit> Number 38.
20100815 21:38:31< shadowmaster> yes
20100815 21:38:34< Gambit> Ewww
20100815 21:38:38< shadowmaster> but it's just a subforum. The rest are forums.
20100815 21:38:53< shadowmaster> your useless opinion is not required.
20100815 21:40:33< shadowmaster> esr: your example project line in the startup variables in ciabot.py lacks quote marks
20100815 21:41:05< esr> In this causing a problem?
20100815 21:41:09< shadowmaster> yes.
20100815 21:41:13<+CIA-12> dorset: shadowm dorset.git:master * r2fe1c5924d61 /test: test 4
20100815 21:41:13<+CIA-12> dorset: shadowm dorset.git:master * r157f0e510340 /test: test 3
20100815 21:41:20< esr> Looking...
20100815 21:41:27< shadowmaster> Traceback (most recent call last):
20100815 21:41:27< shadowmaster>   File "/git/dorset.git/hooks/ciabot.py", line 37, in <module>
20100815 21:41:27< shadowmaster>     project=dorset
20100815 21:41:27< shadowmaster> NameError: name 'dorset' is not defined
20100815 21:41:53< shadowmaster> also, why am I getting "dorset.git:master" above instead of just "master" ?
20100815 21:42:09< shadowmaster> (or nothing at all since it's the master branch, which would look better)
20100815 21:42:34< esr> The string "dorset" does not occur in any of my master sources, I just checked.
20100815 21:42:48< shadowmaster> esr: of course. It's "None" originally IIRC
20100815 21:43:25< shadowmaster> it should be "None" for us troglodites who don't know Python's syntax very well
20100815 21:43:41< esr> Hm.
20100815 21:43:43< shadowmaster> I mean, "\"None\"".
20100815 21:44:13< shadowmaster> I mean...just sourround it in quotes.
20100815 21:44:20< shadowmaster> *wrap
20100815 21:44:59< shadowmaster> hmm <branch>%(repo)s:%(branch)s</branch>
20100815 21:45:13< shadowmaster> I guess I'll just strip the %(repo)s: part since there's only one upstream repository in this case
20100815 21:45:46< esr> I'm confused.  The string "None" also doesn't occur in my masters.  On what line of what file did you find it?
20100815 21:46:06< shadowmaster> ciabot.py line 37
20100815 21:46:22< shadowmaster> project=None should be project="None"
20100815 21:46:29< shadowmaster> unless None is some Python keyword I don't know of.
20100815 21:46:38< esr> Musty be an old version.  Where did you find it?
20100815 21:46:57< shadowmaster> from git, since your site is giving me a 500 on your version.
20100815 21:47:47< shadowmaster> i.e. http://git.kernel.org/?p=git/git.git;a=tree;f=contrib/ciabot;h=e3cf1630a38ec03e3e6a65a5b5503663ffea851f;hb=HEAD
20100815 21:48:24< shadowmaster> last updated on 2010-04-02
20100815 21:50:26< shadowmaster> esr: you know, you could theoretically solve the HTTP 500 issue if you are allowed to override serrver config with .htaccess files.
20100815 21:50:30< shadowmaster> [shadowm /home/public/src]$ cat .htaccess 
20100815 21:50:31< shadowmaster> Options +Indexes -ExecCGI
20100815 21:50:31< shadowmaster> RemoveHandler .pl .py .php
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20100815 21:52:03<+CIA-12> dorset: shadowm master * r167abfa96de7 /test: test 4
20100815 21:54:19< esr> shadowmaster: Notes.
20100815 21:55:22< shadowmaster> I also have the impression that despite using tac to provide the revision list in the update hook, commits are rpeported backwards.
20100815 21:55:33< shadowmaster> although I have no way to know if that's a quirk of the MTA here.
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20100815 21:56:04< shadowmaster> (i.e. I don't know if mails are sent immediately or sent in a burst, by exim4)
20100815 21:58:33< shadowmaster> now that I know the script works I'll try using it as a post-commit hook again instead.
20100815 21:59:05< esr> shadowmaster: aster: The order is pretty random unless you use the XMLRPC option.
20100815 21:59:49< shadowmaster> ugh.
20100815 22:00:06< shadowmaster> yet XMLRPC can cause problems when cia's website is down.
20100815 22:02:16< esr> I know.  Life sucks.
20100815 22:02:40< esr> I tried your .htaccess hack.  It hosed access to the index.html page :-(
20100815 22:03:13< shadowmaster> ugh.
20100815 22:03:30< shadowmaster> I take it you aren't allowed to use .htaccess files in that server then.
20100815 22:13:46< shadowmaster> esr: apparently it doesn't work as a post-commit hook
20100815 22:13:56< shadowmaster> I don't get any error messages from the server though.
20100815 22:14:32< shadowmaster> this is git version 1.5.6.5 at the server side, if it matters.
20100815 22:14:54< shadowmaster> and yes, post-commit is set to be executable by everyone
20100815 22:21:40<+CIA-12> shadowm-website: shadowm master * r914dc1143186 /test: test9
20100815 22:21:40<+CIA-12> shadowm-website: shadowm master * r12848efde696 /test: test8
20100815 22:21:41<+CIA-12> shadowm-website: shadowm master * ra77d42cad0c9 /test: test7
20100815 22:22:58<+CIA-12> shadowm-website: shadowm master * rb869dba3defb /test: test12
20100815 22:22:59<+CIA-12> shadowm-website: shadowm master * r94c89cbe771a /test: test11
20100815 22:23:19< shadowmaster> maybe I should apply the wesnoth.org workaround
20100815 22:23:24<+CIA-12> shadowm-website: shadowm master * r4117f7c58f65 /test: test10
20100815 22:23:45< shadowmaster> ...nah.
20100815 22:31:47<+CIA-12> shadowm-website: shadowm dorset3 * rce711b699dec /img/smilies3/ (28 files): Remove unused smilies from versioning
20100815 22:33:08<+CIA-12> shadowm-website: shadowm dorset3 * r8eb11d765be2 /img/unused/ (sidebar_section.png sidebar_section_2.png): Remove unused images from versioning
20100815 22:35:05<+CIA-12> shadowm-website: shadowm master * r86244551ab9a /test: Remove test file
20100815 22:35:44< shadowmaster> yays, now I can work on dorset4 without worrying about patch merging.
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20100815 22:51:57< Gambit> zookeeper: If we set keys in [unit_type] that don't actually mean anything to wesnoth (like say can_use_roads=yes), are those created when you recruit or use [unit] and can I [filter_wml] them?
20100815 22:52:53< Aethaeryn> After spending much of the late summer reading about *proper* programming theory, rather than just doing whatever to get my WML to work, I think I'm going to have to comb through my WML and rewrite it significantly to get a consistant style.
20100815 22:53:08< Aethaeryn> Maybe in a week or two.
20100815 22:58:44< zookeeper> Gambit, the last time i checked, yes
20100815 22:59:06< zookeeper> but can't say for sure if that happens anymore
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