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20100817 00:19:39< Gambit> My fellow ubuntu users must be really immature. Half the results for "ubuntu wallpapear" are NSFW
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20100817 00:44:42< Blueblaze> shadowmaster: when will Espreon rise from the dead?
20100817 00:50:20< shadowmaster> when he gets a new desktop
20100817 00:50:56< shadowmaster> Gambit: bluecore's new battery ran out rather unexpectedly
20100817 00:51:11< Blueblaze> shadowmaster: does he have a time table for that?
20100817 00:51:14< shadowmaster> it dropped from 14% to 0% and then shut down in 2 seconds
20100817 00:51:23< shadowmaster> Blueblaze: no idea
20100817 00:51:25< Gambit> shadowmaster: not the new one right?
20100817 00:51:26< Blueblaze> k
20100817 00:51:31< shadowmaster> Gambit: yes, the new one
20100817 00:51:36< shadowmaster> I said new battery above
20100817 00:51:44< Gambit> You weren't doing anything intensive?
20100817 00:51:53< shadowmaster> yes, I was. Intentionally.
20100817 00:51:55< Blueblaze> poking holes in the battery case
20100817 00:51:59< shadowmaster> I am supposed to calibrate the battery now
20100817 00:52:07< Gambit> Also I just tried and failed to replace an icon... it's still using the old one which shouldn't exist...
20100817 00:52:11< shadowmaster> which is what I'm doing
20100817 00:52:16< Gambit> I wonder if I have to restart something.
20100817 00:52:17< shadowmaster> I'm now on blackcore
20100817 00:52:35< shadowmaster> on Windows XP SP2.
20100817 00:52:51< shadowmaster> because openSUSE 10.3 failed to register the USB modem as a USB serial device.
20100817 00:53:10< shadowmaster> maybe it's my fault for modprobing the modem driver too early, I'll see the next time I reboot
20100817 00:53:44< shadowmaster> so I'm now downloading xchat
20100817 00:53:57< shadowmaster> >;(
20100817 00:54:39< Gambit> shadowmaster: ewww
20100817 00:54:42< Gambit> get quassel
20100817 00:55:00< Gambit> xchat windows is shareware
20100817 00:55:30< Gambit> I'm about to try logging out and back in
20100817 00:55:37< Gambit> I forget if that effects this
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20100817 00:56:15< shadowmaster> Gambit: no
20100817 00:56:19< shadowmaster> I'm using silverex
20100817 00:56:54< Gambit> Hmm that didn't reload the icon either.
20100817 00:57:08< Blueblaze> shadowmaster: do you believe in love at first sight? I think I fell in love with this girl at first sight.
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20100817 00:58:18< Gambit> Maybe it's getting it from another folder?
20100817 00:58:22< shadowm_blackcor> I live.
20100817 00:58:36< shadowmaster> damn
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20100817 01:00:02< Gambit> Stupid icon.
20100817 01:00:06< Gambit> Maybe it will refresh tomorow.
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20100817 01:02:51< Gambit> shadowmaster: Do you know any way to make... I guess it's a gnome issues... refresh what I suspect is a cache of icons?
20100817 01:04:03< shadowmaster> no idea. I don't work with GNOME
20100817 01:04:16< shadwm_blackcore> UTF-8 test: á é í ó ú
20100817 01:04:23< shadowmaster> damn you windows
20100817 01:05:15< shadowmaster> phew, fixed it
20100817 01:05:44< shadowmaster> bless you, PuTTY
20100817 01:06:33< shadowmaster> so I am pretty much preparing the environment here to survive without Linux this evening
20100817 01:06:44< shadowmaster> while that thing charges its new battery
20100817 01:09:50< Gambit> "survive without linux"
20100817 01:10:16< Gambit> I dunno if it'll make it.
20100817 01:10:25< shadowmaster> openSUSE 10.3 isn't a better option to Windows XP here.
20100817 01:11:05< Gambit> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=450176#p450176 <=== Great minds think alike!
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20100817 02:21:28< Aethaeryn> Oh, because I mentioned IE earlier today.
20100817 02:21:30< Aethaeryn> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/04/Web_browser_usage_share.svg
20100817 02:22:14< Aethaeryn> Yeah, IE varies wildly from 45 to 65. The point is to use a median of various counters.
20100817 02:22:47< Aethaeryn> That's an amazing bar graph though.
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20100817 02:47:57< Valkier> shadowmaster: I find it odd that you associate me with vagina.
20100817 02:48:24< Aethaeryn> O.o
20100817 02:48:28< Aethaeryn> I think I missed something
20100817 02:48:49< Valkier> Apparently I am a moist flap of skin in which to insert things.
20100817 02:51:57< Gambit> Actually he said your head is in one.
20100817 02:52:00< Gambit> Not that you are one.
20100817 02:52:04< Valkier> ahh
20100817 02:52:47< Gambit> Valkier: And I *did* say you were a cunning linguist ;)
20100817 02:53:00< Valkier> I no.
20100817 02:53:06< Valkier> I resisted your setup.
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20100817 03:27:50< Aethaeryn> Damn it.
20100817 03:28:05< Aethaeryn> Now I'm going to have to look for an alternative to VirtualBox, just when I was starting to really like it.
20100817 03:28:52< Aethaeryn> I can't trust Oracle after suing Google over its (open source) implementation of Java and shutting down the (open source) OpenSolaris project. It clearly doesn't have a commitment to open source, but rather to crapware like that shitty PeopleSoft thing that is worse than the plaintext system my university used to use.
20100817 03:29:11< Aethaeryn> Any ideas?
20100817 03:33:55< Gambit> Aethaeryn: dualbooting
20100817 03:33:58< Gambit> -smugleaf.png-
20100817 03:34:39< Gambit> http://alternativeto.net/desktop/virtualbox/
20100817 03:36:09< Aethaeryn> Gambit: I'd rather not use Windows at all and just go back to not ever being able to run EXE files than just dualboot.
20100817 03:36:20< Aethaeryn> I basically use VirtualBox as a wine that actually works.
20100817 03:36:45< Gambit> Whenever I install virtualbox it makes my already bad internet connection even worse.
20100817 03:36:48< Aethaeryn> I don't like any of the actual Windows operating system, but XP is minimalist (i.e. old) enough to not get in the way. 
20100817 03:36:58< Aethaeryn> When running in a window.
20100817 03:37:14< Aethaeryn> If I had to actually run XP without being able to alt+tab away, I would probably gouge my eyes out in frustration.
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20100817 03:49:08< Gambit> shadowmaster: from the 1.8.4 changelog:
20100817 03:49:11< Gambit> "   * Never allow uploading *.pbl files (case-insensitive) to the add-ons
20100817 03:49:11< Gambit>      server from the regular game client"
20100817 03:49:18< Gambit> Is that related to your test addon?
20100817 03:51:01< Gambit> whoa 1.9 has MP persistent variables now
20100817 03:54:40< Gambit> ♥
20100817 04:04:58< Aethaeryn> Gambit: really? it has constant number stuff?
20100817 04:05:15< Gambit> Aethaeryn: ...
20100817 04:05:26< Gambit> janebot: What should I say to him?
20100817 04:05:26<+janebot> Gambit: I refuse to answer that.
20100817 04:05:28< Aethaeryn> Hey, sometimes you just have to be clearer in the terminology.
20100817 04:05:31< Gambit> Aethaeryn: ^^^
20100817 04:05:41< Gambit> Aethaeryn: That's not clear at all.
20100817 04:05:44< Gambit> 4 is a constant number.
20100817 04:05:49< Gambit> Wesnoth has always had 4.
20100817 04:32:36< Gambit> Aethaeryn: Actually... looking through the changelogs; It looks like 4 was not added until 0.8
20100817 04:35:41< Aethaeryn> Gambit: oh, you know, constant variables. They stay constant across games.
20100817 04:37:01< Aethaeryn> This whole "persistent thing" almost sounds like a negative connontation. Constant, though, that's positive.
20100817 04:37:32< Aethaeryn> Something *constantly* there, not something persistently trying to succeed and by the very nature of persistently trying thus failing every attempt.
20100817 04:40:48< Aethaeryn> :-P
20100817 04:41:03< Aethaeryn> oh wait, "constant" can have other meanings that people are probably thinking of when I say it? :-P
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20100817 05:25:47< Gambit> Night all
20100817 05:26:09< Gambit> shadowmaster: Good luck with your batteratorial problems.
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20100817 13:46:40< Gambit> Alrighty. Installing eclipse.
20100817 13:46:54< timotei> Gambit: trying eclipse plugin?:)
20100817 13:47:19< Gambit> I tried last night but apparently the internet got slow enough halfway through that it stopped the download
20100817 13:47:31< Gambit> timotei: That's the plan :D
20100817 13:47:32< timotei> oh
20100817 13:47:42< timotei> well, follow the readme so no problems arise:)
20100817 13:48:06< Gambit> Oh wow... software center saves your download progress!?!? :o
20100817 13:48:11< Gambit> ♥
20100817 13:48:13< timotei> no!
20100817 13:48:16< timotei> don't do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
20100817 13:48:22< Gambit> timotei: Huh?
20100817 13:48:23< timotei> download eclipse from ...
20100817 13:48:25< timotei> oficial page;)
20100817 13:48:39< Gambit> timotei: Do I have to have the most up-to-date version?
20100817 13:48:51< timotei> well. what version is in ubuntu repo?
20100817 13:48:55< timotei> you need 3.6
20100817 13:48:55< timotei> ;)
20100817 13:49:07< Gambit> Let's find out.
20100817 13:49:10< Gambit> One
20100817 13:49:12< Gambit> Two
20100817 13:49:13< Gambit> Three
20100817 13:49:17< timotei> ?
20100817 13:49:27< Gambit> *crunch*
20100817 13:49:51< Gambit> darn 3.5.2
20100817 13:49:56< timotei> :))
20100817 13:49:57< timotei> haha
20100817 13:50:01 * Gambit uninstalls
20100817 13:50:15< Gambit> janebot: How many licks does it take to get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop?
20100817 13:50:15<+janebot> Gambit: The world may never know.
20100817 13:50:56< Gambit> janebot: Wrong. It takes three and a half licks.
20100817 13:50:56<+janebot> Gambit: I refuse to answer that.
20100817 13:52:06< Gambit> ~20 minutes
20100817 14:16:03< Gambit> timotei: WHOA
20100817 14:16:07< Gambit> It installed on extract?
20100817 14:16:19< Gambit> Hmm I wish I had known it would do that.
20100817 14:16:27< Gambit> I didn't want it in downloads...
20100817 14:16:31< Gambit> I wonder if it's safe to move it
20100817 14:17:44< timotei> yes
20100817 14:17:45< timotei> it's safe
20100817 14:17:51< timotei> and it's 'installed' already:P
20100817 14:18:19< Gambit> Well I looked inside it before extracting
20100817 14:18:27< Gambit> and then when I extracted it it renamed its own folder
20100817 14:18:31< Gambit> and stuff looks different inside
20100817 14:18:37< Gambit> things have moved and a dissappeared
20100817 14:19:05< timotei> extract again
20100817 14:19:37< Gambit> Why? It appears to be working.
20100817 14:19:51< Gambit> timotei: Was it not supposed to do that?
20100817 14:19:57< timotei> ok
20100817 14:19:57< timotei> :P
20100817 14:19:57< Gambit> :s
20100817 14:20:05 * Gambit so confused
20100817 14:21:09< timotei> why
20100817 14:21:10< timotei> ?
20100817 14:25:09< Gambit> I've never seen anything do that before.
20100817 14:25:17< Gambit> Anyway... your screenshots do not look like mine :(
20100817 14:25:28< timotei> what?
20100817 14:27:46< Gambit> nor do the textual instruction
20100817 14:29:43< Gambit> hmmm
20100817 14:29:45< Gambit>  Missing requirement: Wesnoth User Made Content Plugin 1.0.0 (Wesnoth_Eclipse_Plugin.feature.group 1.0.0) requires 'org.eclipse.xtext 0.0.0' but it could not be found
20100817 14:30:36< timotei> whaa??
20100817 14:30:38< timotei> grr
20100817 14:30:44< timotei> one second
20100817 14:30:49< timotei> eclipse is broken for me
20100817 14:33:48< Gambit> oh cool "You’re lucky. There will be a slimmed version of Eclipse, actually only the plugin itself. The size will be 3 or 4 times smaller
20100817 14:33:48< Gambit> than the current eclipse, and there will be no extra plugins. This version isn’t released yet."
20100817 14:34:02< timotei> :P
20100817 14:34:15< timotei> I will start working on that next weeks
20100817 14:34:20< Gambit> I kinda wish I could get this one working though first :D
20100817 14:34:28< timotei> well, gambit... I don't know what you did
20100817 14:34:35< timotei> went the developer way?
20100817 14:34:35< Gambit> So you list XText SDK in the developer steps
20100817 14:34:39< Gambit> timotei: No
20100817 14:34:43< timotei> I've listed
20100817 14:35:21< timotei> it's listed
20100817 14:36:19< Gambit> I guess one needs it no matter what?
20100817 14:36:28< timotei> yes
20100817 14:37:11< Gambit> I wonder why it "wasn't found" while installing the WUMC plugin
20100817 14:37:54< Gambit> Installing it now.
20100817 14:38:00< timotei> if you step-by-step, then no problems
20100817 14:38:00< timotei> ;)
20100817 14:38:02< timotei> ah yeah
20100817 14:38:04< Gambit> Xtext I mean
20100817 14:38:09< timotei> maybe your... internet was broken
20100817 14:38:11< timotei> for some seconds:)
20100817 14:38:19< Gambit> timotei: all three time I tried?
20100817 14:38:27< timotei> yep:)
20100817 14:38:29 * Gambit skeptical face
20100817 14:38:39< timotei> well, for me worked for styart
20100817 14:38:43< timotei> I've tried a blank new download
20100817 14:38:44< Gambit> *sceptical?
20100817 14:38:46< timotei> and foloow steps;)
20100817 14:39:03< Gambit> I am sckeptickal.
20100817 14:39:06< Gambit> :D
20100817 14:39:36< Gambit> Sure it taking a while to install...
20100817 14:39:43< Gambit> (Xtext I mean)
20100817 14:42:34< Gambit> It appears to be frozen at 49%
20100817 14:43:45< Gambit> Hmm nope it's not frozen.
20100817 14:43:55< Gambit> It's just really slow.
20100817 14:44:01< Gambit> Or really big.
20100817 14:44:07< timotei> it's not that
20100817 14:44:15< timotei> it's just because, eclipse searches on the net
20100817 14:44:19< timotei> for depencencies;)
20100817 14:44:57< Gambit> okay... *now* for your plugin
20100817 14:45:43< Gambit> Yep it's going perfectly now.
20100817 14:46:01< Gambit> Ohno unsigned plugin that could damage my computer :o
20100817 14:46:05< timotei> :))
20100817 14:46:16< shadowmaster> I fell asleep last night in front of blackcore
20100817 14:46:28< timotei> lol
20100817 14:46:44< shadowmaster> Gambit: also, wtf, I'm not allowed to disclose information on secuirty vulnerabilities. Can't you take a "no" as an asnwer?
20100817 14:47:01< shadowmaster> and I was referring to valkier's mind, not head
20100817 14:47:40< shadowmaster> Gambit: your inability to follow orders and disclosure policies is what keeps you away from being nominated as moderator
20100817 14:47:41< timotei> shadowmaster: information on secuirty vulnerabilities for what?:)
20100817 14:47:48< shadowmaster> timotei: Wesnoth.
20100817 14:47:52< timotei> oh
20100817 14:48:09< Gambit> timotei: He can't say!
20100817 14:48:18< timotei> hmm
20100817 14:48:22< timotei> well.. 1) I don't care
20100817 14:48:23< shadowmaster> Gambit: no, seriously.
20100817 14:48:29< timotei> 2) I could know if I want:P
20100817 14:48:41< timotei> 3) I think that is shareable among wesnoth devs:P
20100817 14:48:48< Gambit> timotei: Oh yeah...
20100817 14:48:51< shadowmaster> your smilies are not required.
20100817 14:49:14< timotei> shadowmaster: yep. I know.
20100817 14:49:20< shadowmaster> 3648 mAh? wtf
20100817 14:49:28< timotei> I must make a global hook that prevents smiles being typed
20100817 14:49:41< shadowmaster> then again this BIOS never reports battery charge properly to non-Vista systems
20100817 14:49:49< shadowmaster> because of who knows what DSDT rule.
20100817 14:49:52< Gambit> timotei: You totally need to record yourself speaking for the "Ohhai I see this is the first time you've blah et cetera"
20100817 14:50:16< timotei> Gambit: I don't get it
20100817 14:50:43< Gambit> The little message that popped up and sounded so helpful
20100817 14:50:55< Gambit> Nevermind :(
20100817 14:50:56< timotei> what message?
20100817 14:51:01< timotei> I'm sorry, I don't get it
20100817 14:51:01< Gambit> It appears that this is not my day.
20100817 14:51:14< timotei> ohhhhhhhhhh
20100817 14:51:15< timotei> !
20100817 14:51:20< timotei> yeah, THAT message
20100817 14:51:20< shadowmaster> wow, I got an email today
20100817 14:51:23< Gambit> timotei: A little message popped up that said "I notice this is the first time you've run the plugin. You need to setup your preferences"
20100817 14:51:23< shadowmaster> with timestamp of 2002
20100817 14:51:39< shadowmaster> From: =?utf-8?B?Q2FwYWNpdGFjacOzbiB5IERlc2Fycm9sbG8gVUMg?= <jurrear@uc.cl>
20100817 14:51:43< shadowmaster> Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 07:57:48 -0400
20100817 14:51:43< timotei> haha
20100817 14:51:51< timotei> Gambit: well, we'll see :P
20100817 14:52:05< shadowmaster> received by gmail on         Mon, 16 Aug 2010 14:44:45 -0700 (PDT)
20100817 14:52:29< shadowmaster> the sender server is screwed up.
20100817 14:52:32< Gambit> Hmm what's my working directory?
20100817 14:52:40< shadowmaster> Gambit: cwd
20100817 14:52:45< shadowmaster> I mean pwd
20100817 14:53:10< timotei> no
20100817 14:53:16< timotei> rtfm gambit:))
20100817 14:53:19< Gambit> When I filled in the path to wesnoth's executable it automatically picked /cmake/
20100817 14:53:21< timotei> it's  the one caontaining data/ /images/
20100817 14:53:22< shadowmaster> getcwd() is the system call
20100817 14:53:26< Gambit> timotei: It just says "fill it out"!
20100817 14:53:33< timotei> no.
20100817 14:53:39< timotei> you were suppoesed to rtm
20100817 14:53:47< Gambit> "After you completed the fields, press Apply and then OK"
20100817 14:53:47< timotei> no tooltips in 1.0
20100817 14:53:53< timotei> yep
20100817 14:53:55< timotei> but!
20100817 14:54:03< timotei> if I recall correctly
20100817 14:54:03< shadowmaster> oh, I see, you are one of those crazy people using Eclipse
20100817 14:54:19< Gambit> shadowmaster: I'm giving it a shot to help test
20100817 14:54:34< Gambit> But my experience has not been very good so far.
20100817 14:54:34< shadowmaster> I prefer testing stuff I actually use, such as Mesa.
20100817 14:54:36< timotei> Gambit: The working directory is the directory that contains the data, images, manual, sounds
20100817 14:54:36< timotei> of wesnoth.
20100817 14:54:36< timotei> If there we
20100817 14:54:40< shadowmaster> hence I don't test Wesnoth anymore.
20100817 14:54:41< Gambit> The documentation doesn't match wtf is going on at all.
20100817 14:55:04< shadowmaster> I'm tempted to drop an email to these IT department retards
20100817 14:55:06< timotei> it's the first paragraphs of "Using the plugin"
20100817 14:55:12< shadowmaster> to tell them to whitelist the Git and SVN pots.
20100817 14:55:15< shadowmaster> ports.
20100817 14:55:36< timotei> Gambit: really, I've wrote the documentation with eclipse running near me...
20100817 14:55:41< shadowmaster> in fact I'll do so now
20100817 14:55:54< shadowmaster> provided I can find their email address
20100817 14:56:42< Gambit> timotei: Are you using the readme from the website? Or perhaps some more up to date version?
20100817 14:56:47< shadowmaster> I'm tired of this SSH tunnel/IP switcheroo
20100817 14:56:52< timotei> Gambit: the one from website
20100817 14:57:06< shadowmaster> so they aren't managing to block my access to those service but just make it a little less comfortable
20100817 14:57:09< shadowmaster> SSH ftw.
20100817 14:57:47< Gambit> strange
20100817 14:58:05< shadowmaster> btw,
20100817 14:58:17< shadowmaster> I'm going to work on the Wesnoth 0.2 article this week
20100817 14:58:25< shadowmaster> to celebrate my 100th blog post
20100817 14:58:46< Gambit> timotei: nope don't see it
20100817 14:58:51< timotei> Gambit: what?
20100817 14:59:05< Gambit> the part where it tells me what these four fields are and what they should be
20100817 14:59:17< timotei> no. it just tells about what's the working dir
20100817 14:59:25< timotei> but I will add tooltips to each preference :)
20100817 14:59:46< Gambit> also
20100817 14:59:50< timotei> that's the downside of making your own documentation:P
20100817 14:59:50< Gambit> it auto filled in this:
20100817 14:59:51< Gambit> /home/gambit/wesnoth-trunk//data/tools
20100817 14:59:54< timotei> yes
20100817 14:59:56< Gambit> ^I assume that's a bug?
20100817 14:59:58< timotei> no
20100817 15:00:02< Gambit> double slashes?
20100817 15:00:04< timotei> why would you type again?
20100817 15:00:07< timotei> it doesn't matter
20100817 15:00:14< timotei> it wouldn't even matter stuff like: \/
20100817 15:00:22< timotei> C:\windows\/system32
20100817 15:00:23< timotei> ;)
20100817 15:00:26< timotei> (on windows)
20100817 15:01:12 * shadowmaster is sad
20100817 15:01:20< shadowmaster> Gambit: sorry for anything I said that made you ignore me
20100817 15:01:33< Gambit> shadowmaster: Oh I'm just busy atm.
20100817 15:01:44< shadowmaster> to celebrate my 100th blog postst
20100817 15:01:45< Gambit> I'll congratulate you on #100 after you write it ;)
20100817 15:01:47< shadowmaster> oops
20100817 15:01:49< shadowmaster> don't leave me alone. If you stop believing on me I'll vanish like a pile of dust
20100817 15:01:53< Gambit> xD
20100817 15:02:02< shadowmaster> http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve
20100817 15:02:32< Gambit> I dislike that trope tbh.
20100817 15:02:50< shadowmaster> damn
20100817 15:02:57< Gambit> It drives far too many anime's.
20100817 15:03:02< shadowmaster> what the hell does the IT department have in their heads?
20100817 15:03:03< Gambit> And it breaks too many plots.
20100817 15:03:22< Gambit> shadowmaster: It's a school IT department neh?
20100817 15:03:30< shadowmaster> Gambit: animes.
20100817 15:03:36< shadowmaster> Gambit: or anime, which Espreon would prefer.
20100817 15:03:41< shadowmaster> you don't use 's to indicate plurals
20100817 15:03:41< Gambit> animi
20100817 15:03:47< shadowmaster> Bob the Angry Flower would be disappointed
20100817 15:03:54< Gambit> I do on words I don't know how to pluralify :$
20100817 15:03:57< Gambit> or acronyms
20100817 15:04:12< Gambit> Anyway school IT departments are all about control.
20100817 15:04:19< Gambit> It doesn't have to serve a purpose.
20100817 15:04:21< shadowmaster> Gambit: don't pluralify "anime" because it's not supposed to be pluralized in its native language
20100817 15:04:25< Gambit> If they can lock it down; it's a win!
20100817 15:04:27< shadowmaster> same about "ninja" or "tsunami"
20100817 15:04:32< shadowmaster> also, this is a university.
20100817 15:04:37< shadowmaster> not a school.
20100817 15:04:39< Gambit> Same difference.
20100817 15:04:44< Gambit> Moreso in fact.
20100817 15:04:53< Gambit> The computer-breaking-idiot-students are smarter now.
20100817 15:05:00< Gambit> On average not smart enough to know how not to break it.
20100817 15:05:06< Gambit> Just smart enough to think they know how not to break it
20100817 15:05:10< shadowmaster> today in "Shadowmaster's Most Hated English Phrases"...
20100817 15:05:13< Gambit> And end up breaking it even more.
20100817 15:05:13< timotei> shadowmaster: bachelor?
20100817 15:05:15< shadowmaster> "Same difference".
20100817 15:05:20< timotei> shadowmaster: or master/doctor?
20100817 15:05:28< shadowmaster> Gambit: hold on, I'll give you a translation of the FAQ entry
20100817 15:05:35< shadowmaster> it's really ridiculous, trust me
20100817 15:05:59< timotei> Gambit: so, please, list down to a .txt all things that didn't matched the readme
20100817 15:06:10< timotei> or where could be extra information
20100817 15:06:39< Gambit> timotei: k
20100817 15:07:45< shadowmaster> Gambit: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/yh9brqC6
20100817 15:07:57< shadowmaster> the translation in English is mine
20100817 15:08:39< shadowmaster> note the misuse of caps ("WEB" is not an acronym, and "SPAM" is supposed to be used only to refer to Hormel's product nowadays, while "spam" is used for unwanted content instead)
20100817 15:08:43< Gambit> Yeah
20100817 15:09:17< shadowmaster> they also don't seem to consider that scripts can use http and https to send spam as well
20100817 15:09:31< Gambit> or HTTP spoofing :o
20100817 15:09:35< shadowmaster> anyway that's the guest network. I'm in the students network
20100817 15:10:23< Gambit> Also XMPP is a protocol they obviously allow.
20100817 15:10:42< shadowmaster> okay fuck this people, why am I supposed to pay $10K chilean pesos to get my computer checked to diagnose wifi connectivity issues?
20100817 15:10:51< timotei> what??
20100817 15:10:54< shadowmaster> I bet the only thing they can do is check windows' settings
20100817 15:11:07< Gambit> shadowmaster: Also you're going to love this
20100817 15:11:11< Gambit> shadowmaster: They allow IRCX
20100817 15:11:17< Gambit> which is M$'s EEE of IRC
20100817 15:11:20< shadowmaster> Gambit: how can you tell?
20100817 15:11:26< Gambit> shadowmaster: MSN instant messanger
20100817 15:11:30< Gambit> :)
20100817 15:11:33< shadowmaster> I thought ircx was dead
20100817 15:11:40< shadowmaster> since the failure of Microsoft Comic/Chat program
20100817 15:11:52< Gambit> hmm maybe I have the wrong thing
20100817 15:12:32< shadowmaster> note, $10K chilean pesos is roughly around USD$16
20100817 15:12:41< Gambit> oh it's MSNP or XMPP
20100817 15:13:02< Gambit> shadowmaster: disregard; I pulled up chat instead of instant messanger
20100817 15:13:46< shadowmaster> and why do they include wifi connection instructions only for windows?
20100817 15:13:55< shadowmaster> there are quite a lot of teachers on Macs.
20100817 15:14:05< shadowmaster> and some students as well
20100817 15:14:08< Gambit> Because They're Chilean™ ?
20100817 15:14:19< Gambit> Chileans Love Windows™ ?
20100817 15:14:19< shadowmaster> oh I suppose the faculties teach the teachers to use that damn thing with Macs
20100817 15:14:30< shadowmaster> and pay $10K chilean pesos to the IT dept. while at it
20100817 15:16:37< Gambit> timotei: Can you please seperate text size from color?
20100817 15:16:47< timotei> wha?
20100817 15:16:50< shadowmaster> fuck
20100817 15:16:59< Gambit> *color and other formatting
20100817 15:16:59< shadowmaster> I need to be an employee to request firewall changes
20100817 15:17:04< timotei> hmm
20100817 15:17:07< Gambit> timotei: In the preferences for syntax highlighting
20100817 15:17:11< Gambit> font size should be global
20100817 15:17:17< shadowmaster> either that or convince a faculty representative that I need XYZ service
20100817 15:17:17< timotei> Gambit: yes
20100817 15:17:35< timotei> shadowmaster: you are 'regular' student?
20100817 15:17:41< timotei> not working in research?
20100817 15:17:53< Gambit> In fact I'm not sure why the heck eclipse would let languages define their own font size
20100817 15:17:56< shadowmaster> timotei: yes., regular atm
20100817 15:18:12< timotei> Gambit: hmm... there is the global one afaik
20100817 15:18:13< shadowmaster> this sucks
20100817 15:18:24< timotei> shadowmaster: bachelor/master/doctor?
20100817 15:18:58< Gambit> Yay I found my first real bug too
20100817 15:19:06< shadowmaster> I'm really at the start of the career
20100817 15:19:07< timotei> what?
20100817 15:19:18< Gambit> timotei: changing the font size of "WML Key" does not change the size
20100817 15:19:20< shadowmaster> and I've never understood how the education system here translates to English
20100817 15:19:46< Gambit> timotei: I changed it to 8 and it was still what it was
20100817 15:19:52< Gambit> I changed it to 32 and it went to 8
20100817 15:19:54< Gambit> wth?
20100817 15:20:02< Gambit> Maybe this is my computer going bonkers.
20100817 15:20:08< Gambit> all the others worked
20100817 15:20:09< timotei> :))
20100817 15:20:14< timotei> I don't know
20100817 15:20:43< Gambit> It's always changing to the last one I picked
20100817 15:20:48< Gambit> I went to 8 and it made it size 32
20100817 15:21:04< timotei> I didn't do anything to there
20100817 15:21:07< Gambit> hmmm clicking in the window updates it
20100817 15:21:12< Gambit> Weird
20100817 15:21:21< timotei> yes
20100817 15:21:27< timotei> it needs to update the document
20100817 15:23:43< Gambit> Closing tag autocompletion ♥ oh how I have missed thee
20100817 15:26:13< Gambit> I feel like I'm in a less-space-efficient Dreamweaver for WML
20100817 15:27:37< Gambit> timotei: I thought you said it allowed to unterminated macros?
20100817 15:27:49< Gambit> *unterminated tags inside macros
20100817 15:30:04< Gambit> shadowmaster: I speak from experience when I say that those clan thingies can barely afford their dedicated boxes
20100817 15:30:10< Gambit> they use free forums
20100817 15:30:32< Gambit> Or at least every one I have ever met did.
20100817 15:30:38< shadowmaster> Gambit: I know.
20100817 15:30:38< Gambit> (quite a few)
20100817 15:30:50< shadowmaster> but it helps to enlarge my portfolio
20100817 15:31:33< shadowmaster> even though the actual patch is trivial if you know regexps and can add a couple of entries to the i18n strings table.
20100817 15:33:06< timotei> Gambit: it won't update the whole document every second=> stupid optimization
20100817 15:33:15< timotei> Gambit: and NO! it doens't Allow unterminated :)
20100817 15:33:16< shadowmaster> someone please tell me why I was about to edit my fstab
20100817 15:33:32< shadowmaster> I forgot what I was doing
20100817 15:34:03< Gambit> After the fourth time of mistyping acting_side or acting_unit or acting_gold as active_whatever and loading the game to meet with my failure
20100817 15:34:10< Gambit> i'm wondering if I shouldn't just rename the variables...
20100817 15:34:24< timotei> HAHAHAHA
20100817 15:34:27< Gambit> My reflexes apparently prefer "active_"
20100817 15:34:30< timotei> I have ssh :P
20100817 15:34:37< timotei> Gambit: please forgive me
20100817 15:34:42< timotei> actually forgive schema.cfg
20100817 15:34:45< timotei> for it's not complete
20100817 15:34:48< Gambit> shadowmaster: Something about wireless?
20100817 15:34:58< timotei> yep
20100817 15:34:59< shadowmaster> no!
20100817 15:35:03< timotei> shadowmaster: you wanted to mount the wifi:D
20100817 15:35:09< shadowmaster> fstab has the partitions info table
20100817 15:35:23< shadowmaster> i.e. where to mount them, what's their fs type, mounting parameters
20100817 15:35:27< shadowmaster> boot check order
20100817 15:35:36< Gambit> shadowmaster: You wanted to partition the internet
20100817 15:35:45< shadowmaster> cat /etc/fstab   and you'll see
20100817 15:36:11< Gambit> shadowmaster: Admirable, but I don't think that's the best way to get rid of porn.
20100817 15:37:21< timotei> hehe
20100817 15:37:31< timotei> shadowmaster: it was a joke:P
20100817 15:37:40< timotei> Gambit: I'd delete all porn
20100817 15:37:50< timotei> ok : vim works, ping works
20100817 15:37:52< timotei> what else?
20100817 15:38:00< timotei> irc?
20100817 15:39:54< Gambit> ...
20100817 15:40:01< Gambit> macro... folding... ♥
20100817 15:40:13< timotei> :D
20100817 15:40:36< Gambit> Actually shadowmaster's kate addon did that too
20100817 15:40:53< timotei> where can I see sm's addon?:P
20100817 15:40:57< Gambit> timotei: I do love your plugin. I just can't stand eclipse.
20100817 15:41:11< timotei> Gambit: ok. we'll talk when the standalone app will be ready
20100817 15:41:12< timotei> ok?
20100817 15:41:12< timotei> :)
20100817 15:41:28< shadowmaster> Gambit: it's just a syntax hilight schema.
20100817 15:41:36< Gambit> timotei: I dunno where you can see it. I haven't created my log searcher yet.
20100817 15:41:43< Gambit> Quassel is retarded with logs.
20100817 15:42:01< shadowmaster> I have been too lazy to research on more goodness such as indentation schemata, autocompletion/validation plugins, etc.
20100817 15:42:02< Gambit> It puts them in an SQLite database.
20100817 15:43:15< Gambit> My main gripe with eclipse is how much of the screen it wastes
20100817 15:43:24< Gambit> Who needs 32px thick tabs?
20100817 15:43:29< Gambit> Seriously.
20100817 15:44:47< Gambit> Actually... I think they might be thicker than that.
20100817 15:44:50< Gambit> 48 or so.
20100817 15:45:17< Gambit> speaking of which
20100817 15:45:24< Gambit> I found out why that icon wasn't updating.
20100817 15:45:35< Gambit> I changed its 48x48 version
20100817 15:45:42< Gambit> but my panel is at 24
20100817 15:45:59< Gambit> So yeah... I'm stupid
20100817 15:46:21< Gambit> Actually no I'm not
20100817 15:46:30 * Gambit just doesn't know anymore...
20100817 15:47:11< Gambit> Oh no yeah I am stupid.
20100817 15:47:32< Gambit> The panel is 24 high so it uses the 16x16 icon.
20100817 15:48:14< Gambit> s/16/22/g
20100817 15:48:19< Gambit> Yes. Now it is right!
20100817 15:48:45< Gambit> I changed the 24x24 version but my panel uses the 22x22 version.
20100817 15:49:02< Gambit> Because the panel is 24 high and there is some wiggle room.
20100817 15:49:28< timotei> :)
20100817 15:49:34< Gambit> I really should think more before hitting enter...
20100817 15:49:47< Gambit> Then maybe I wouldn't have to edit every single forum post...
20100817 15:59:13< timotei> ok. need to compile irrsi from withing ssh
20100817 16:17:26< timotei> Gambit: have you any .map files?
20100817 16:17:30< timotei> what icons do they have?
20100817 16:17:35< timotei> does it open with game editor
20100817 16:17:35< timotei> ?
20100817 16:22:47-!- timotei [~timotei@wesnoth/developer/timotei] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
20100817 16:30:20< Gambit> I wonder if timotei reads logs...
20100817 16:30:33< Gambit> timotei: Sorry I was feeding chickens.
20100817 16:30:51< Gambit> timotei: Yes I have .map files. They have a text file icon (like .cfg's) and it doesn't open.
20100817 16:31:07< Gambit> timotei: "editor could not be initialized
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20100817 18:06:02-!- timotei [~timotei@wesnoth/developer/timotei] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20100817 18:08:50< shadowmaster> http://news.opensuse.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/113-is-here.jpg
20100817 18:10:41< shadowmaster> hm, it looks like FTP is whitelisted now in this network
20100817 18:14:03< shadowmaster> damn, all opensuse mirrors are horribly slow
20100817 18:19:57< Gambit> shadowmaster: speaking of reading logs
20100817 18:20:03< Gambit> "Gambit: I know you're reading this!"
20100817 18:20:06< Gambit> At the time I wasn't.
20100817 18:20:22< shadowmaster> but you do it all the time
20100817 18:20:24< shadowmaster> don't you?
20100817 18:20:28< Gambit> No
20100817 18:20:34< shadowmaster> then shame on you.
20100817 18:20:38< Gambit> I almost never read logs unless someone tells me to :$
20100817 18:20:54< Gambit> That particular night, your messages was... how you say... INB4QUIT :P
20100817 18:21:16< shadowmaster> what is that?
20100817 18:21:24< Gambit> In before the quit
20100817 18:21:28< Gambit> I had just quit when I got it
20100817 18:21:33< Gambit> So it was too late to respond normally.
20100817 18:21:43< Gambit> IIRC I noticed it in janebot's terminal output before shutting down
20100817 18:23:01< Gambit> actually no
20100817 18:23:11< Gambit> I didn't notice it in her terminal output she's not in #wesnoth
20100817 18:23:33< Gambit> I guess I checked my client again before going to bed or something
20100817 18:23:51< Gambit> but yeah:
20100817 18:23:52< Gambit> 20100816 05:35:57< shadowmaster> Gambit tends to overdo my jokes.
20100817 18:23:52< Gambit> 20100816 05:35:59-!- Gambit [~Gambit@unaffiliated/gambit] has quit []
20100817 18:25:07< Gambit> But I really wasn't reading logs until after I saw it
20100817 18:25:11< Gambit> Anywhoo...
20100817 18:26:07< Gambit> shadowmaster: You've never heard of INB4LOCK?
20100817 18:26:24< Gambit> I guess the Wesnoth community doesn't do that.
20100817 18:26:44< Gambit> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=inb4lock
20100817 18:31:01< timotei> Gambit: I've read your log:P
20100817 18:31:15< Gambit> timotei: Cool beans
20100817 18:32:32< timotei> though, I don't get why the default editor put to open .map files:|
20100817 18:32:56< Gambit> Me either. I just did what you asked. :D
20100817 18:33:33< timotei> yep and thanks
20100817 18:33:40< timotei> that should open with in-game
20100817 18:33:41< timotei> editor;)
20100817 18:34:30< Gambit> Any plans to make it so we can open scenarios in game as well?
20100817 18:34:58< timotei> it can!
20100817 18:34:59< timotei> :-W
20100817 18:35:05< timotei> rtm?
20100817 18:35:06< timotei> :P
20100817 18:35:12< timotei> right click on scenario: open scenario ingame
20100817 18:35:19< Gambit> timotei,janebot: ORLY?
20100817 18:35:20<+janebot> Gambit: YARLY!
20100817 18:35:31< timotei> it should work
20100817 18:36:04 * Gambit pokes context menu
20100817 18:36:18< timotei> right click
20100817 18:36:26< Gambit> timotei: That's only for campaigns
20100817 18:36:29< timotei> no
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20100817 18:36:33< Gambit> timotei: I mean MP scenarios
20100817 18:36:53< timotei> well... hmm mp scenarios are [multiplayer] instead of scenario?
20100817 18:37:01< Gambit> Yes
20100817 18:37:06< timotei> I don't know if I can even open from cmd line the mp scenarios
20100817 18:37:07< Espreon|Wii> Gambit: You do realize that "inb4 X" is a meme, right?
20100817 18:37:07< timotei> one sec
20100817 18:37:10< timotei> LOW has one right?
20100817 18:37:24< Gambit> timotei: Dunno
20100817 18:37:28< timotei> ...
20100817 18:37:33< Gambit> You should probably have a project that contains lal the default multiplayer maps
20100817 18:37:53< timotei> meh
20100817 18:38:05< timotei> well, let;me
20100817 18:38:16< Gambit> Espreon|Wii: Lies. It's a forum tradition.
20100817 18:38:17< timotei> mp scenarios open in ... from lobby isn't it?
20100817 18:38:34< Espreon|Wii> Gambit: It originated as chanspeak...
20100817 18:38:43< Gambit> timotei: well for testing I think it'd be better to open them locally
20100817 18:39:15< Gambit> Espreon|Wii: lies
20100817 18:39:21< Gambit> Espreon|Wii: 4chan has no rules
20100817 18:39:26< Gambit> Espreon|Wii: Ergo it has no locks.
20100817 18:39:40< Gambit> Ergo everything is inb4 lock
20100817 18:39:46< Espreon|Wii> Gambit: Or at least, it ascended sometime after it became a part of chanspeak.
20100817 18:39:49< Gambit> And it is not a special occurence to be inbr4lock
20100817 18:40:03< Gambit> Ergo it would not need a special phrase to point it out
20100817 18:40:14< Gambit> janebot: amirite?
20100817 18:40:15<+janebot> Gambit: Wrong.
20100817 18:40:24< Espreon|Wii> Gambit: On *chan, it's not "inb4 lock"; it's "inb4 404".
20100817 18:42:42< Espreon|Wii> ... keep that in mind...
20100817 18:44:35< Gambit> Right.
20100817 18:44:49< Gambit> I wouldn't want to look like a dunce next time I'm on 4chan.
20100817 18:45:01< Espreon|Wii> Gambit: You need to read ED moar...
20100817 18:45:35< Espreon|Wii> So, nowadays it's just "inb4 X"... X can be... anything... yeahz...
20100817 18:45:39< Gambit> Espreon|Wii: Well I hope, like most men, that I don't ever have that problem.
20100817 18:45:52< Gambit> I mean with my heart condition, I might not even live long enough to develop it.
20100817 18:45:59< Espreon|Wii> shikadibot: ED ?
20100817 18:45:59<+shikadibot> ED: Encyclopædia Dramatica
20100817 18:46:08< Gambit> shikadibot: lies
20100817 18:46:45< Gambit> janebot: !define ED
20100817 18:46:45< Espreon|Wii> Gambit: Don't bark at shikadibot; to you, she's "Lady shikadibot".
20100817 18:46:45<+janebot> Gambit: "ED" stands for "erectile dysfunction".
20100817 18:47:24 * Espreon|Wii believes that janebot needs to go to the Internet
20100817 18:47:46< Gambit> janebot: !setdefine ED Encyclopædia Dramatica (or erectile dysfunction)
20100817 18:47:46<+janebot> Gambit: Got it. "ED" now stands for "Encyclopædia Dramatica (or erectile dysfunction)".
20100817 18:48:47< Gambit> janebot: He was dissappointed.
20100817 18:48:47<+janebot> Gambit: Here; a rat's hat.
20100817 18:49:25< timotei> !define Espreon
20100817 18:49:30< timotei> ok
20100817 18:49:40< timotei> janebot: !define Espreon
20100817 18:49:41<+janebot> timotei: Sorry. I haven't the foggiest what that means.
20100817 18:49:48< timotei> janebot: you bad!
20100817 18:49:48<+janebot> timotei: I refuse to answer that.
20100817 18:49:58< timotei> janebot: it's not a question, isn't it?
20100817 18:49:58<+janebot> timotei: I refuse to answer that.
20100817 18:50:08< timotei> okok, no playground here:P
20100817 18:50:21< Gambit> Indeed.
20100817 18:50:38< Gambit> timotei: names are no acronyms or obscure phrases
20100817 18:50:38< Espreon|Wii> janebot: Thou needest to go to the Internet!
20100817 18:50:52< timotei> but..:(
20100817 18:50:54< Gambit> Well that's interesting.
20100817 18:51:05< Espreon|Wii> How come it answers timotei's statement and not mine?
20100817 18:51:08< Gambit> janebot: Thou needest to go to the Internet!
20100817 18:51:08<+janebot> Gambit: I refuse to answer that.
20100817 18:51:12< Gambit> Espreon|Wii: I don't know
20100817 18:51:34< timotei> Espreon|Wii: Gambit doesn't like you
20100817 18:51:45< timotei> Espreon|Wii: because you didn't gave us your address
20100817 18:51:48< Gambit> Espreon|Wii: You're on the web chat?
20100817 18:51:48< timotei> (home address)
20100817 18:52:09< Espreon|Wii> Gambit: Yeah.
20100817 18:52:10< Gambit> Oh you're on the webchat AND cloaked.
20100817 18:52:30< Gambit> Hmmm I didn't think of that whilst writing my human detection
20100817 18:52:35< Espreon|Wii> timotei: I don't need him slithering into my county.
20100817 18:52:52< timotei> Espreon|Wii: he doesn't slither!!
20100817 18:52:54< timotei> he BIKES
20100817 18:52:54< timotei> :D
20100817 18:53:06< Gambit> Espreon|Wii: Basically; she assumes you're from the network.
20100817 18:53:17< Espreon|Wii> timotei: Thou knowest this... how?
20100817 18:53:40< Espreon|Wii> Gambit: Well, fix her!
20100817 18:53:49< Gambit> Espreon|Wii: Okay
20100817 18:53:58< Gambit> Yeah the other day I wrote much smarter human detection into the perl side of things.
20100817 18:54:06< Gambit> So I should be able to remove the CFML verification
20100817 18:55:43< Gambit> janebot: !literal QUIT
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20100817 18:56:22< Gambit> Espreon|Wii: try it now
20100817 18:56:42< Espreon|Wii> janebot: Art thou my Aunt Gloria?
20100817 18:56:42<+janebot> Espreon|Wii: I refuse to answer that.
20100817 18:56:58< Gambit> The (raw) message must contain a "@" and must not match /^:[A-Z]+.freenode.net [0-9][0-9][0-9] #me#/
20100817 18:57:07< Gambit> That's the only verification left on the CFML side of the code.
20100817 18:57:23< Gambit> I should probably escape those periods...
20100817 18:57:38< Gambit> shadowmaster: You have to escape periods in regex right?
20100817 18:57:42< Gambit> Otherwise it means "any character"?
20100817 18:57:52< Gambit> janebot: test?
20100817 18:57:52<+janebot> Gambit: Yep. Everything is working perfectly. Thanks for asking.
20100817 18:58:19< shadowmaster> Gambit: yes
20100817 18:58:26 * shadowmaster was asleep
20100817 18:58:37< Gambit> Oh sorry.
20100817 18:58:46< Gambit> :#
20100817 18:59:24< shadowmaster> no, don't be sorry
20100817 18:59:35< shadowmaster> I needed to wake up anyway.
20100817 19:01:09< Espreon|Wii> Well, I think I'll go for now... bye...
20100817 19:01:15< Gambit> Espreon|Wii: See you
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20100817 19:07:13< shadowmaster> Espreon: can't you ever use /quit to quit the web gateway ?
20100817 19:07:18< shadowmaster> *web gateway client
20100817 19:15:30< Gambit> His away log will be huge
20100817 19:15:43< Gambit> well I guess he isn't really away...
20100817 19:15:50< Gambit> But his backlog of unread highlights.
20100817 19:16:12< shadowmaster> he reads the logs.
20100817 19:16:38< Gambit> shadowmaster: What client does he use?
20100817 19:16:57< Gambit> Even if I am not away mine will keep a backlog of highlights that I have not viewed
20100817 19:17:11< Gambit> ^That's what I meant more or less.
20100817 19:17:13< timotei> meh...
20100817 19:17:22< timotei> need to think of a better webpage for eclipse plugin
20100817 19:17:22< timotei> ...
20100817 19:17:37< Gambit> It remembers whether or not the highlighting messages have been on the screen I guess
20100817 19:17:41< timotei> http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/emft/b3/ would be something like this nice? http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/emft/b3/
20100817 19:18:19< timotei> Gambit: right click on a .map-> open with
20100817 19:18:21< Gambit> Hey those don't crash quassel and gnome-panel :D
20100817 19:18:33< timotei> Map files editor
20100817 19:18:45< Gambit> s/gnome-plane/whatever handles icons and nautilis's theme/
20100817 19:18:52< Gambit> (and panel theme)
20100817 19:19:00< Gambit> gtk?
20100817 19:19:14< Gambit> I really don't know what does what around here...
20100817 19:19:21< timotei> ?
20100817 19:19:21< Gambit> On windows everything was just windows
20100817 19:19:22< Gambit> or explorer
20100817 19:19:43< Gambit> s/plane/panel/
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20100817 19:22:04< timotei> hmm
20100817 19:22:10< timotei> Gambit: do that please?:)
20100817 19:23:23< Gambit> timotei: eeez goood
20100817 19:23:25< Gambit> It works.
20100817 19:23:35< timotei> so, opening the map editor, right?
20100817 19:23:44< timotei> good
20100817 19:24:07< Gambit> I want animated grass in 1.12
20100817 19:24:57< timotei> muhaha
20100817 19:25:01< timotei> let's try installing irrsi :D
20100817 19:28:32< shadowmaster> Gambit: a web browser.
20100817 19:28:38< shadowmaster> he reads the logs.
20100817 19:28:45< shadowmaster> the published logs.
20100817 19:28:48< shadowmaster> got it?
20100817 19:29:03< shadowmaster> timotei: irssi, not irrsi
20100817 19:29:13< timotei> irssi. ok
20100817 19:29:17< timotei> hmm, need glib
20100817 19:29:18< timotei> ...
20100817 19:29:43< shadowmaster> how's that a problem?
20100817 19:30:23< timotei> well, need to download them+compile too
20100817 19:30:38< shadowmaster> see you all in the evening.
20100817 19:30:41< timotei> bye bye
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20100817 19:48:13< Gambit> shadowmaster: You completely miss my point.
20100817 19:53:27< Gambit> dude... 1018 page thread: http://forum.blockland.us/index.php?topic=70050.0
20100817 19:53:56< timotei> Gambit: do you want to make a webpage for the eclipse plugin?:>
20100817 19:54:09< timotei> Gambit: but only if you are good at it, or it results something nice
20100817 19:54:16< timotei> I don't have time myself, that's why
20100817 19:54:52< Gambit> I'm actually not so good at making things look nice.
20100817 19:54:58< Gambit> I'm more of a back end kind of guy.
20100817 19:55:13< Gambit> [no innuendo intended]
20100817 19:55:21< Gambit> But I guess I can give it a shot this weekend
20100817 19:55:26< timotei> yep:)
20100817 19:55:32< timotei> well..
20100817 19:55:35< timotei> ok
20100817 19:56:29< Gambit> It should have the wesnoth header and background color I'd imagine
20100817 19:56:46< timotei> yeah, it could
20100817 19:56:59< Gambit> So that gives me something sem-appealing to start with
20100817 19:57:19< Gambit> How does eclipse know there's a download on that page?
20100817 19:57:24< Gambit> I guess there's scripts you'll put in
20100817 19:59:47< timotei> yes. the javascript one
20100817 20:11:28< Gambit> omg... kate has regex find replace YES! YES! YES!
20100817 20:12:46< Gambit> That just saved me so much work.
20100817 20:14:07< timotei> minefield doesn't have gore off?
20100817 20:14:09< timotei> that uscks
20100817 20:14:37< Gambit> But... can it capture groups?
20100817 20:32:12< Gambit> timotei: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n2vVtSBOos
20100817 20:32:16< Gambit> take a break ^ laugh
20100817 20:32:22< timotei> Gambit: ok, I've added some tooltips:P
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20100817 20:51:04< timotei> and I will sign them :P
20100817 20:59:33< Gambit> Sweet. A timotei autograph.
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20100817 22:38:56< Gambit> timotei: so I've been r(ing)tfm
20100817 22:39:13< Gambit> And as it turns out your plugin is so incredibly useful that I will probably use it from now on
20100817 22:39:29< Gambit> Or at least every now and again for indentation :)
20100817 22:40:55< Gambit> though WMLindent seems to dislike my macros with unterminated tags :(
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20100817 22:47:20< timotei> :P
20100817 22:47:26< timotei> at least I'm not the only one
20100817 22:47:41< Gambit> timotei: consider set_menu_items
20100817 22:47:57< Gambit> It's just easier to have a macro handle the begininging
20100817 22:48:08< Gambit> Then your code that'd go in the [command] block
20100817 22:48:11< Gambit> Then a closing macro
20100817 22:48:24< Gambit> I mean not every set_menu_item
20100817 22:48:31< Gambit> But most of mine have only minor differences
20100817 22:48:37< timotei> well...
20100817 22:48:39< Espreon|Wii> Gambit: I use irssi. As for your wmlindent problems, you'll have to use some directives to make it stop bitching... So... open wmlindent and look at the comments at the beginning of the file or sift through some mainline files... such as utils.cfg.
20100817 22:48:49< timotei> hmm
20100817 22:52:36< timotei> omg
20100817 22:52:51< timotei> I'm on my way of compiling irssi
20100817 22:52:55< timotei> in my ssh account :D
20100817 22:55:13< timotei> Espreon|Wii, shadowmaster: how does it sound, compiling irssi on your own ssh account?:)
20100817 22:55:56< Espreon|Wii> timotei: NO!
20100817 22:56:11< Espreon|Wii> We only have so much RAM available...
20100817 22:56:51< timotei> I compiled it already
20100817 22:56:56< timotei> now need to read the HOWTO:)
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20100817 23:23:45< Gambit> timotei: nighjt
20100817 23:24:04< timotei> bye
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