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20100820 00:53:15< Gambit> Sweet. Ditch the backpack + walk faster + sprint a little = record time walk
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20100820 01:46:34<+janebot> Forum feed reporting will be going offline for the rest of the night while the Frogatto forums are added. Thank you for understanding.
20100820 01:47:14< shadowmaster> Gambit: please don't subscribe us to frogatto here
20100820 01:47:31< Gambit> Not here.
20100820 01:47:47< shadowmaster> okay
20100820 01:47:57< Gambit> shadowmaster: You have full control over what this channel is and isn't subscribed to via !subscribe-channel and !unsubscribe-channel
20100820 01:48:07< Gambit> Well you and anyone with "wesnoth/developer" in their cloak...
20100820 01:48:42< shadowmaster> and if you do it in the frogatto channels, please don't forget to task Jetrel et al for permission first :)
20100820 01:48:45< Gambit> Or unafffiliated/gambit or unaffiliated/gambit/bot/
20100820 01:48:49< Gambit> But you get the idea.
20100820 01:48:49< shadowmaster> ask
20100820 01:48:52< Gambit> shadowmaster: Of course.
20100820 01:49:14< Gambit> She's not just for channels though. Regular users can do it too.
20100820 01:49:17< Gambit> They get queried.
20100820 01:49:28< shadowmaster> ahj
20100820 01:49:31< shadowmaster> *ah
20100820 01:49:35< Gambit> they use !subscribe and !unsubscribe
20100820 01:49:55< Gambit> !subscribe-channel and !unsubscribe-channel requires authorization.
20100820 01:50:12< Gambit> And the just-added-five-seconds-ago !subscriber-alert requires a retina scan.
20100820 01:52:51< Gambit> Now I need to add a new column to the table and figure out how to back-populate every row with "wesnoth"...
20100820 01:53:21< Gambit> Surprisingly my PHP book has been the most helpful with these things because it goes over mysql in very fine detail
20100820 01:55:27< Gambit> Hmm. I've kinda gotten use to indentation. Going over my old code really sucks.
20100820 01:57:24< Gambit> Kate has made indentation much easier on mine eyes because a tab is like 3 spaces versus notepad's 20
20100820 01:57:29< Gambit> Yes. Twenty.
20100820 02:00:27< Gambit> Executable: kate PID: 14704 Signal: 11 (Segmentation fault)
20100820 02:00:30< Gambit> wow
20100820 02:10:10< shadowmaster> Gambit: you want to use 4 spces for indentation
20100820 02:10:22< Gambit> I just hit tab :\
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20100820 02:10:25< shadowmaster> and you can configure kate to set the indentation unit width and type (tab vs spaces)
20100820 02:10:32< Gambit> Ah
20100820 02:10:46< Gambit> Well in notepad a tab was the same distance as like 15-20 spaces
20100820 02:10:54< Gambit> So it was rediculous.
20100820 02:10:59< Gambit> Kate's indentation is perfect.
20100820 02:11:58< Gambit> Hmm it looks like hitting tab in kate does 2 spaces
20100820 02:16:33< Gambit> Oh what's this?
20100820 02:16:40< Gambit> There's a 38 on wesnoth now.
20100820 02:18:00< Gambit> wesbot: seen boucman?
20100820 02:18:00<+wesbot> Gambit: The person with the nick boucman last spoke 2h 14m ago.  1h 37m ago they were seen quitting on the channel #wesnoth-dev with the message: Quit: Leaving.
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20100820 02:18:07< Gambit> ah darn
20100820 02:34:53< Gambit> shadowmaster: *awesomesmiley*
20100820 02:35:06< Gambit> Wesnoth and Frogatto forums atom feeds both store data in the exact same way
20100820 02:35:19< Gambit> The link to the post, the author's name, the forum name
20100820 02:35:21< Gambit> all of it
20100820 02:35:24< Gambit> The same data structure
20100820 02:36:36< Gambit> Well except for the timestamps apparently.
20100820 02:37:28< Gambit> Err no. Even the timestamps.
20100820 02:47:03< Gambit> actually minor difference
20100820 02:47:07< Gambit> Wesnoth uses "updated"
20100820 02:47:11< Gambit> Frogatto uses "modified"
20100820 02:51:33< Gambit> And by minor I of course mean "throws a giant wrench in what was otherwise a very beautiful set of gears"
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20100820 03:43:06< Gambit> janebot: !subscribe-channel 17;w
20100820 03:43:06<+janebot> Updated your subscription
20100820 03:44:07< Gambit> shadowmaster: slight change to the way subscriptions work
20100820 03:44:17< Gambit> you need to use forumid;boardletter
20100820 03:44:27< Gambit> so Website becomes 17;w
20100820 03:44:43< Gambit> And if you wanted two forums it'd be for example: 18;w,36;w,3;f
20100820 03:44:49< Gambit> Same for seaching the forums
20100820 03:44:55< Gambit> janebot: !forum 17;w
20100820 03:44:56<+janebot> Gambit: DEATH_is_undead posted in 'Website • Re: Where can I donate something???' on 08-13-2010 at 20:03:13
20100820 03:44:56<+janebot> Gambit: Go there: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?t=29856&p=449422#p449422
20100820 03:45:09< Gambit> janebot: !forum-user Hulavuta
20100820 03:45:20< Gambit> janebot: !forum-user Hulavuta;w
20100820 03:45:20<+janebot> Gambit: Hulavuta last posted in 'Off-Topic • Re: Funny forum memories.' on 08-20-2010 at 00:52:31
20100820 03:45:20<+janebot> Gambit: Go there: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?t=31007&p=450964#p450964
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20100820 03:49:31<+janebot> I am bringing forum reporting back online shortly. Please see the help for syntax changes in all forum related commands. Frogatto's forums are now accessable.
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20100820 04:23:15< Gambit> I removed the teen thing and the "tell me something I don't know" thing entirely.
20100820 04:23:23< Gambit> Now that she's in 3 important channels
20100820 04:23:44< Gambit> More important ones than not important ones now :)
20100820 04:23:52< Gambit> And I'm considering removing !roulette
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20100820 05:07:16< Blueblaze> oh no
20100820 05:07:18< Blueblaze> valkier isn't here
20100820 05:07:19< Blueblaze> :(
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20100820 06:16:30< Aeth[Birthday]> yay!
20100820 06:16:34< Aeth[Birthday]> finally done with summer classes!
20100820 06:16:47< Aeth[Birthday]> last assignment was due midnight so I turned it in early...
20100820 06:16:50< Aeth[Birthday]> 6 minutes early.
20100820 06:19:31<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: mystic-x * r7522 /branches/1.8/Grafted_Era/ (8 files in 4 dirs): several fixes to attack descriptions/names
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20100820 07:42:20< timotei> man, I hate this
20100820 07:42:33< timotei> shadowmaster: do you have any idea what does/where stores git the checksum of files?
20100820 07:47:22< shadowm_laptop> no
20100820 07:47:25< shadowm_laptop> #git
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20100820 07:54:08< timotei> yey, it worked. at last my git is ok:D
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20100820 10:56:31< zookeeper> i can't believe how bad most of the stuff in the faction slogans thread is D:
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20100820 14:37:35< Gambit> Sigh. You can tell when I accidentally hit Ctrl+C in the terminal xD
20100820 14:37:43< Gambit> I've got to get used to *not* doing that.
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20100820 16:15:17< Gambit> timotei: Also [I think] thanks to Soliton I figured out exactly why event's name= keys weren't in game_events :D
20100820 16:15:27< Gambit> Basically it doesn't define the keys like that
20100820 16:15:28< timotei> why?
20100820 16:15:30< timotei> :P
20100820 16:15:41< Gambit> Rather throughout the C++ files there are different things that fire("event name")
20100820 16:16:00< Gambit> The game then looks for [event]name= matching that and does whatever they do
20100820 16:16:01< Gambit> :D
20100820 16:16:34< Gambit> So I added two more of those
20100820 16:19:21< Gambit> well game_events::fire()
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20100820 17:26:37< timotei> Gambit: http://www.faeriewarsgame.com/game.html is this the minefield yoou talked?
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20100820 17:27:10< Gambit> Huh?
20100820 17:27:20< Gambit> timotei: missing plugin :(
20100820 17:27:22< timotei> you told me about a super game
20100820 17:27:31< timotei> minefield or something like that
20100820 17:27:33< Gambit> timotei: http://www.minecraft.net
20100820 17:27:51< timotei> oh
20100820 17:28:13< Gambit> Aethaeryn can also attest to its awesomeness
20100820 17:31:04< timotei> I don't like th4e graphics
20100820 17:33:17< Gambit> It's... retro?
20100820 17:33:26< Gambit> The blockyness is oddly calming.
20100820 17:39:08< Aethaeryn> timotei: basically like Legos
20100820 17:39:14< Aethaeryn> plus FPS games from the 90s
20100820 17:39:27< Aethaeryn> plus the addictiveness of an MMO without actually being MMO 
20100820 17:39:37< timotei> it's nice, but not enough to make me play
20100820 17:39:38< timotei> :P
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20100820 18:57:16< timotei> hi Espreon|Wii :P
20100820 18:57:21< timotei> how are you doin'?
20100820 18:57:34< Espreon|Wii> Uh, I'm fine.
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20100820 18:59:40< Espreon|Wii> Silly timotei and his gratuitous emoticons...
20100820 19:01:37< Espreon|Wii> Good news people: it seems that that silly USB wireless key thingy with which we are stuck can somehow work with Linux.
20100820 19:01:42< Gambit> Espreon|Wii: Emoticons are punctuation marks.
20100820 19:02:28< Gambit> more good news: some kind person in #ubuntu taught me how to update via terminal
20100820 19:02:38< Gambit> and since that works it is merely a problem with the update manager's front end
20100820 19:02:45< Espreon|Wii> Gambit: ... OK... tell me something that I don't know...
20100820 19:02:46< Gambit> and when it's done updating he told me how to reinstall that properly
20100820 19:03:02< Gambit> Espreon|Wii: :(
20100820 19:03:09< Gambit> If only you'd asked a week ago
20100820 19:03:21< Gambit> janebot: would have provided you with a random fact you didn't know
20100820 19:03:21<+janebot> Gambit: I refuse to answer that.
20100820 19:03:54< Gambit> Today I want to figure out how this ubuntu one cloud thing works
20100820 19:04:07< Gambit> If I edit a file on the cloud is it automatically updated on the host machine?
20100820 19:04:18< Espreon|Wii> Blargh, I don't like janebot's random facts...
20100820 19:04:18< Gambit> Find out next time on
20100820 19:04:32< Gambit> Random Comments from a Linux Newbie
20100820 19:04:57< Espreon|Wii> Eh, who the hell knows about Ubuntu's silly cloud thing?
20100820 19:06:04< Espreon|Wii> In other news, I defeated all of the "Metroid Prime" games on hard mode... and I'm still not satisfied...
20100820 19:06:12< Gambit> If it does that will be useful for shareing public_html and .wesnoth with the laptop
20100820 19:06:32< Espreon|Wii> Somehow, I didn't loose to Rundas on my latest "Metroid Prime 3" run...
20100820 19:06:46< Gambit> of course public_html includes quite a few symbolic links
20100820 19:07:08< Espreon|Wii> Well, I did defeat him before he could go into hypermode.
20100820 19:09:46< Espreon|Wii> I would just get "Metroid Prime Trilogy" and do hypermode runs on all three, but the "Metroid Prime 2" run wouldn't be the same... for the bosses were nerfed...
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20100820 19:12:43< Espreon|Wii> ... and now, I'll leave for a while...
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20100820 19:17:50< Gambit> Now if I could only find out why the laptop's connection is so bad
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20100820 19:34:16-!- Topic for #wesnoth-umc-dev: Wesnoth-UMC-Dev Project discussion and support channel | http://wesnoth-umc-dev.ai0867.net | Staff: AI0867, Espreon, shadowmaster | Project @ SF.net: http://tinyurl.com/umcdev | IRC logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org, http://irclogs.ai0867.net
20100820 19:34:16-!- Topic set by shadowmaster [~ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] [Fri Aug 13 22:02:25 2010]
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20100820 19:34:16-!- Irssi: #wesnoth-umc-dev: Total of 18 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 4 voices, 13 normal]
20100820 19:34:17-!- Home page for #wesnoth-umc-dev: http://wesnoth-umc-dev.ai0867.net
20100820 19:34:43-!- Channel #wesnoth-umc-dev created Mon Mar 31 16:51:24 2008
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20100820 19:37:54< timotei> Gambit: I think ubuntu one is a syncronization stuff
20100820 19:38:06< timotei> so yes, it should upload to the cloud
20100820 19:38:40< Gambit> but if I edit something from my laptop, does my desktop realize it's been changed and redownload?
20100820 19:40:13< timotei> that should be
20100820 19:40:14< timotei> :P
20100820 19:40:35< timotei> syncronization == the latesst edited file is avaiable on all syncronized devices
20100820 19:44:48< Gambit> I wonder if .wesnoth has to be named .wesnoth
20100820 19:44:52< Gambit> I'd rather have it not hidden
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20100820 19:47:49< timotei> hmm
20100820 19:47:51< timotei> why not?
20100820 19:49:38< Gambit> Because I'm in it so much
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20100820 19:55:00< timotei> it doesn't matter for end-user
20100820 19:55:12< timotei> but anyway, I don't see any difference?
20100820 19:55:22< timotei> .wesnoth to be named .wesnoth ??
20100820 19:55:48< Gambit> no I want it to be named wesnoth
20100820 19:55:51< Gambit> rather than .wesnoth
20100820 19:55:58< Gambit> because .anything is hidden
20100820 19:56:02< timotei> well, that would confuse people:P
20100820 19:56:14< timotei> did you at least take a look what's written in the file?:)
20100820 19:56:45< Gambit> It's the wesnoth userdata directory silly
20100820 19:56:58< Gambit> i.e. my second most active folder
20100820 19:58:03< Gambit> Maybe it's just a nautilus thing but there's no way to unhide folders named .blah
20100820 19:58:13< Gambit> Nor is there a way to hide folders not named .blah
20100820 19:58:23< Gambit> Which is rather a rediculous setup imo
20100820 20:09:53< loonycyborg> Hiding files starting with . is old unix convention, but nautilus should definitely support unhiding them.
20100820 20:10:14< loonycyborg> krusader already does.
20100820 20:11:27< timotei> Gambit: try: ALT + .
20100820 20:19:55< Gambit> loonycyborg: Nope
20100820 20:19:59< Gambit> Just a shortcut for unhiding all
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