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20100822 01:03:23< shadowmaster> elvish sovereign, where the hell are you
20100822 01:03:39< shadowmaster> geez, I'm away for 4 hours and people run away
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20100822 02:49:04< Blueblaze> jru
20100822 02:49:06< Blueblaze> hey thair
20100822 02:53:16< shadowmaster> HI HOW R U MAN
20100822 02:54:42< Blueblaze> okay, rough week
20100822 02:54:56< Blueblaze> working 12 hours a day with no pay isn't the coolest
20100822 03:01:27< Blueblaze> how r u shadowmaster 
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20100822 03:52:54< Gambit> shadowmaster: Did you know I could move threads to other forums my splitting all their posts?
20100822 03:53:33< Gambit> Seems like a flaw in phpbb as it allows moderators of specific forums to change other forums.
20100822 03:53:38< Gambit> Or
20100822 03:53:48< Gambit> it should just give moderators of specific forums the move ability
20100822 03:54:03< Gambit> Because you need to be able to move things that don't belong outward :\
20100822 04:03:05< Gambit> Oh I know what I should do tomorow. It has always annoyed me that [gold] will not take a comma separated list, or do all sides at once
20100822 04:03:25 * Gambit is being utterly selfish with his C++ work :o
20100822 04:03:38< Gambit> But mostly because all the things that other people want are too hard.
20100822 04:06:57< Gambit> shit. [gold] isn't in game_events.cpp
20100822 04:06:58< Gambit> hmmm
20100822 04:08:09< Gambit> I bet it was moved to lua >_>
20100822 04:08:22 * Gambit hisses
20100822 04:12:28< Gambit> Darn. It was.
20100822 04:15:32< Gambit> Well at least I won't have to recompile after every change while attempting to fix that.
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20100822 04:57:45< shadowm_laptop> Gambit: is finding bugs in the forum software the only thing you do in your free time?
20100822 04:58:21< Gambit> shadowmaster: Uh... no.
20100822 04:58:21< shadowm_laptop> and why do you need to tell me about that stuff? I'm not a phpBB developer.
20100822 04:58:34< Gambit> shadowmaster: Because I know you.
20100822 04:58:47< shadowm_laptop> but I can't help you with those, nor do I care.
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20100822 06:01:59<+CIA-18> Wesnoth-forums: shadowm phpBB-3.0.7 * r1508fa04456c /styles/prosilver/template/quickreply_editor.html: 
20100822 06:01:59<+CIA-18> Wesnoth-forums: Make viewtopic output with prosilver valid XHTML 1.0 Transitional again
20100822 06:01:59<+CIA-18> Wesnoth-forums: This reverts part of ba8e5844ce0136d717ea7a57a81b237790f689e4 so the
20100822 06:01:59<+CIA-18> Wesnoth-forums: BBCode buttons are not available in the no-JScript version of the quick
20100822 06:01:59<+CIA-18> Wesnoth-forums: reply editor. Most prosilver users would probably have JScript enabled
20100822 06:01:59<+CIA-18> Wesnoth-forums: anyway. I need validator output to stay as clean as possible and nobody
20100822 06:02:00<+CIA-18> Wesnoth-forums: will ever notice this little inconsistency.
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20100822 14:32:19< AI0867> shadowmaster: jscript != javascript =P
20100822 14:51:15< Gambit> Really?
20100822 14:51:35< Gambit> Can I still say js?
20100822 14:51:52< Gambit> Well it's taken 2 hours but I finally got [gold] to take a comma separated list.
20100822 14:52:07< Gambit> Now I just need to teach it what to do when there is no side= key
20100822 14:54:48 * Gambit is slow :\\/
20100822 16:11:28< AI0867> default is side 1 I believe
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20100822 17:01:23< Gambit> AI0867: Yeah well I want it to default to "give the gold to everyone!"
20100822 17:01:30< Gambit> And now it does.
20100822 17:01:42< Gambit> And doing is half the battle!
20100822 17:01:50< Gambit> (the second half to be precise)
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20100822 17:46:16< AI0867> Gambit: is this your own tag or did zookeeper approve it?
20100822 17:46:37< Gambit> I'm editing the current [gold] tag
20100822 17:46:50< Gambit> And silene is insisting that I keep the current "default to 1" behavior :(
20100822 17:47:07< AI0867> of course
20100822 17:47:14< AI0867> =P
20100822 17:47:24< Gambit> zookeeper: Do you approve of letting gold take a csl of side numbers and having a check for side=="all" ?
20100822 17:53:57< zookeeper> Gambit, well the csl is of course ok
20100822 17:54:36< zookeeper> i'm not a fan of adding exceptions like side=all to one tag out of a million tags which use side=...
20100822 17:55:44< Gambit> So...
20100822 17:55:48< Gambit> how to send to all?
20100822 17:55:55< Gambit> When the exact number of sides is not known?
20100822 17:58:02 * zookeeper shrugs
20100822 17:58:09< zookeeper> use a loop or side=1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9
20100822 17:58:35< Gambit> zookeeper: giving gold to a side that doesn't exist  throws errors
20100822 17:58:55< zookeeper> make it not throw an error then
20100822 17:59:12< zookeeper> well, unless we want it to throw an error of course
20100822 18:00:38< Gambit> I don't want it to throw errors.
20100822 18:00:56< Gambit> I want a way to give gold to all sides even when the number of sides is not known
20100822 18:01:36< Gambit> That was 50% of the reason for me sitting down to fix this. I think it should default to all and anyone relying on such a stupid thing as defaulting to one be damned.
20100822 18:01:41< Gambit> Or wmllint
20100822 18:02:12< Gambit> AFAIK the default to 1 behavior is also an exception isn't it?
20100822 18:02:20< Gambit> So I
20100822 18:02:25< Gambit> I'd be removing an exception.
20100822 18:04:33< zookeeper> so what's wrong with side=1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 ?
20100822 18:04:44< zookeeper> being able to do side=1-3,6,7-9 would be nice though
20100822 18:04:49< Gambit> zookeeper: because if you only have 4 sides it throws errors
20100822 18:04:53< Gambit> For sides 5-9
20100822 18:05:16< Gambit> I'm thinking of eras here that don't know how many sides they're dealing with by the way.
20100822 18:05:53< zookeeper> oh, right, i forgot that already.
20100822 18:06:54< zookeeper> so was there a reason why you can't make it not throw those errors?
20100822 18:07:44< Gambit> I wouldn't even know where to look for that.
20100822 18:10:49< zookeeper> well, ask silene?
20100822 18:10:54 * zookeeper goes to make dinner
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20100822 19:46:19< Blueblaze> hi people i love
20100822 19:48:59< Gambit> Blueblaze: I hate you
20100822 19:49:06< Blueblaze> why
20100822 19:49:07< Blueblaze> :(
20100822 19:49:13< Blueblaze> I love you Gambit !
20100822 19:49:16< Gambit> [13:46:27] <Blueblaze> hey people i love
20100822 19:49:16< Gambit> [13:46:30] <Blueblaze> not including Gambit
20100822 19:49:32< Blueblaze> what? I didn't say that!
20100822 19:50:04< Gambit> I've got an IRC log of ##ps3 that says differently.
20100822 19:51:00 * Gambit is updating wesnoth because he is too stupid to figure out why patch -R is not working
20100822 19:51:16< Gambit> updating with "theirs full" conflict resolution
20100822 19:51:32< Gambit> *ominous music*
20100822 19:51:56< Gambit> Here's the part where shadowmaster tells me why that won't actually work the way I think it will.
20100822 19:52:25< Gambit> Something about files that haven't been updated in SVN won't conflict with my local copy or some such thing
20100822 19:53:16< Gambit> And... he's right!
20100822 19:53:21< Gambit> Darn.
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20100822 19:54:37< Gambit> Sigh
20100822 19:54:54 * Gambit downloads the original copy of the lua wml tags from svn
20100822 19:54:57< Gambit> shikadibot: svn
20100822 19:54:57<+shikadibot> Gambit: Subversion [http://subversion.tigris.org/] is one of the many Version Control tools used by Free and Open Source Software projects. TortoiseSVN [http://tortoisesvn.tigris.org/] is the preferred front-end for using it on Windows. For more information on using SVN, read the free SVN book [http://svnbook.red-bean.com/].
20100822 19:55:08< Gambit> shikadibot: But what about a link to ours :(
20100822 19:58:04< Gambit> why isn't there like an svn diff -R
20100822 19:58:14< Gambit> just remove all the differences
20100822 20:01:22< Gambit> svn revert --depth=infinity
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20100822 21:00:51< shadowmaster> AI0867: wha?
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20100822 21:12:31< AI0867> shadowmaster: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jscript
20100822 21:13:37< Gambit> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_Markup_Language
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20100822 21:16:57< shadowmaster> AI0867: okay...
20100822 21:17:07< shadowmaster> damn Microsoft.
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20100822 21:46:13< Blueblaze> wesbot: seen Valkier
20100822 21:46:13<+wesbot> Blueblaze: The person with the nick Valkier last spoke 3d 5h ago.  3d 4h ago was here and on the channel #wesnoth with the message: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.8/20100722155716]
20100822 21:46:18< Blueblaze> slut
20100822 22:23:57< Gambit> The first level of dead water is breaking my balls.
20100822 22:25:22< shadowmaster> it could be worse.
20100822 22:25:37 * shadowmaster O o (NR...)
20100822 22:26:07< shadowmaster> it's too bad that Ivanovic took down stats.wesnoth.org. I'm curious to see how many people actually complete that campaign
20100822 22:26:57< shadowmaster> we could even make a contest
20100822 22:27:15< loonycyborg> I completed it once iirc not long before it was mainlined or soon after.
20100822 22:27:45< loonycyborg> But I'm blatant save-loader!
20100822 22:29:55< shadowmaster> once.
20100822 22:30:10< shadowmaster> ONly once I have completed it. And I needed some :debug help.
20100822 22:30:20< shadowmaster> only a tiny bit.
20100822 22:33:06< Gambit> i beat utbs with just a tiny bit of :debug help
20100822 22:33:12< Gambit> A half dozen yetis; nothing special.
20100822 22:33:36< Gambit> *one particular scenario in utbs :o
20100822 22:33:42< Gambit> And I lost like 4 of the yetis
20100822 22:33:44< shadowmaster> ...
20100822 22:33:53< shadowmaster> I use unit hitpoints=NNN
20100822 22:33:58< shadowmaster> where NNN is usually something like 1000
20100822 22:34:00< Gambit> Did I mention how poor I am at this game?
20100822 22:34:10< Gambit> shadowmaster: Of course.
20100822 22:34:14< Gambit> Wouldn't want to overdue it.
20100822 22:34:17< shadowmaster> occasionally unit moves=100
20100822 22:34:21< Gambit> We're not cheaters! We just need a little nudge.
20100822 22:35:43< Gambit> A few thousand hitpoints here
20100822 22:35:46< Gambit> A few thousand there
20100822 22:36:43< shadowmaster> I wish I could increase CtH using :debug instead.
20100822 22:37:21< shadowmaster> I can't think of any legant method for doing that. The macro in mainline is a hack by itself, and needs to be wired ain the form if WML events
20100822 22:37:31< shadowmaster> while :debug commands are usually an immediate thing.
20100822 22:38:14< Gambit> Whoa in one turn (no cheating) I just completely turned the tables
20100822 22:38:20< Gambit> shadowmaster: That is on the easy coding list
20100822 22:38:21< Gambit> Hmmm
20100822 22:38:39< shadowmaster> really
20100822 22:38:40< Gambit> shadowmaster: I might try that next week some time
20100822 22:38:49< Gambit> shadowmaster: Yeah easy coding wants "more debug commands"
20100822 22:44:40< Gambit> I AM WINNER
20100822 22:47:11< Gambit> What?
20100822 22:47:15< Gambit> The same god damned map
20100822 22:47:24< Gambit> With the same god damned portrait on a new enemy
20100822 22:47:31< Gambit> And I don't even get to keep all my god damned villages?
20100822 22:50:45-ChanServ:#wesnoth-umc-dev- shadowmaster enabled the VERBOSE flag
20100822 22:51:17-ChanServ:#wesnoth-umc-dev- shadowmaster disabled the VERBOSE flag
20100822 23:05:37< Gambit> shadowmaster: But yeah if you add a private feed to the staging area I'll try to sift my way through the mess that is this article: http://www.opensourcecf.com/1/2006/05/Using-coldfusion-to-log-into-a-phpBB-system.cfm
20100822 23:05:51< Gambit> That happens to be the only article on the entire WWW that discusses that :s
20100822 23:06:03< Gambit> I really should dump it to a file in case it ever gets removed
20100822 23:06:13< shadowmaster> doesn't your bot authenticate as yourself?
20100822 23:06:20< Gambit> shadowmaster: it doesn't log in
20100822 23:06:23< Gambit> It just loads feeds
20100822 23:06:28< shadowmaster> alright
20100822 23:27:35< Gambit> shadowmaster: the one responsible for the old art gallery?
20100822 23:27:58< shadowmaster> no idea
20100822 23:28:36< Gambit> My client doesn't understand INVITE
20100822 23:28:46< shadowmaster> that's a pity
20100822 23:28:52< Gambit> Yeah, and weird.
20100822 23:28:56< shadowmaster> consider it a broken client
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20100822 23:29:13< shadowmaster> unless you mean autojoin-on-invite, which is bad practice and therefore most clients shouldn't do that
20100822 23:29:41< Gambit> no I get the following messages from "Freenode"
20100822 23:29:42< Gambit> [16:49:50] * Unknown: INVITE Gambit #wesnoth-music
20100822 23:29:42< Gambit> [17:27:09] * Unknown: INVITE Gambit ##shadowm
20100822 23:30:02< shadowmaster> duh
20100822 23:32:00< shadowmaster> so, I'm now moving to ##shadowm
20100822 23:32:08< shadowmaster> bye. ;.;
20100822 23:32:22< shadowmaster> just kidding, I'm still the founder admin here.
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